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Ian

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2012, 09:53:18 AM »
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the situation with Llandudno Station has been ridiculous - Network Rail receives billions in subsidy every year - why does it need more financial assistance to do the job that it has already been given the funding to do?

Hmmm..  Depends on where you want to start and how long you've got. Briefly, however, Network Rail is probably doing a pretty decent job, given that in the past four years it's had to assume responsibility for all the work previously contracted out to private companies, and the total maintenance of  20,000 miles of track, 40,000 bridges and tunnels, 2,500 railway stations and many thousands of signals, level crossings, points, turntables, railhead scrubbers, CCTV systems, communications relays, telephone exchanges and buffers, plus a very large fleet of roiling stock all coupled with the inevitable pressure of knowing that even one incorrectly tightened bolt can lead to disastrous consequences.

It's probably too big, but a homogeneous approach to engineering is probably necessary when you're dealing with an industry as big and essential and with a significant potential risk to himan life as the train system.




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DaveR

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2012, 10:38:56 AM »
Rolling stock is owned by separate companies, I believe.

What's amazing is that Betws Y Coed Station has recently had over £700,000 spent on it by Network Rail/Arriva Trains Wales.  Now, it looked nowhere near as bad as Llandudno before the improvements, but the most pertinent fact is that it had a total of 29,516 passengers in 2009/10. Llandudno Station had nearly ten times more at 287,000 passengers, yet not a penny has been spent on it.

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Ian

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2012, 11:13:44 AM »
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Rolling stock is owned by separate companies, I believe.

That's the freight and passenger stock which the ATOC operate;  the rolling stock operated by NW is for maintenance, safety checks and other miscellaneous stuff.  It's a surprisingly large collections of trains.

I think what surprises me is that Arriva hasn't grasped the nettle and pushed for the development, as it's clearly in their interests.
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Merddin Emrys

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2012, 12:14:44 PM »
Bring back the London North Western Railway, it was all run properly back then! $good$

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DaveR

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2012, 12:26:16 PM »
No, ME, bring back the St. George's Harbour and Railway Company!

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2012, 01:05:27 PM »
We have the plans, let's build it!  Slight demolition may be needed!  :twoface:
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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2012, 03:47:51 PM »
Sorry ithink we have a few crossed lines,all im saying about Cll P Evans is that he could let us know why the project is held up,there is NEVER any feed back,we are left in the dark.



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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2012, 04:36:12 PM »
Wrex, you're getting worked up over nothing because that's all it is.  The scheme is a joke and an insult to the town of Llandudno.  If and when it goes ahead it will still be an eyesore.
The area covered by the Station and the adjoining yard are in a prime location and the potential is there to bring something in to benefit the town yet no one looks at the overall position.
The train terminus could be located at least 100 yards further up the track and then you're left with acres of land for leisure, retail and residential use.
The Local Development Plan for Bodafon Fields should be kicked into touch and this brownfield site considered instead and keep Mostyn Estates out of any planning as you'll never get anywhere.
There are ways and means of achieving this but getting the right person to have the vision and ability is another thing. 

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2012, 07:50:58 AM »
 $good$ Thank you again to all the councillors for their input,they all read this forum yet never reply with one excemption of course that being Jason,oh for Llandudno to have a cll like him,upfront and never afraid to inform his congregation. $thanx$

Ian

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2012, 08:00:12 AM »
Indeed.
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Bri Roberts

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2012, 08:53:17 AM »
Perhaps, every County Councillor should be encouraged to have their own blog so their constituents can follow what they do on a day-to-day basis especially the highly-paid cabinet members.



DaveR

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2012, 09:27:49 AM »
That's a very good idea, Bri.  $good$

Ian

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2012, 10:23:46 AM »
They would also be welcome to have their own topics in here - rather like Mike had.
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DaveR

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2012, 10:32:26 AM »
Another good idea. I'm always amazed that Councillors are missing out on an invaluable free opportunity to regularly keep their constituents in touch with what they are up to. Can only benefit them greatly and would remove the commonly held view that councillors only appear when there is an election in the offing!

Craigydonian

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Re: Llandudno railway station
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2012, 12:43:08 PM »
Update on the station development is on page 2 of tomorrow's Weekly News, plus the latest on the Tudno Castle.