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What do you think should be the way forward for the Pier Pavilion site?

Modern design, as put forward by Mr Waldron, featuring restaurants, apartments etc
3 (6.4%)
Recreation of original Pier Pavilion design, but with leisure and entertainment facilities inside
33 (70.2%)
Larger version of original design, with leisure, entertainment and apartments included
7 (14.9%)
Leave site empty for another 20 years
4 (8.5%)

Total Members Voted: 47

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« Reply #764 on: November 09, 2017, 12:20:04 PM »
Why doesn't Mr Williams build something there then instead of trying to stop this one?

Or is that too obvious  ???

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« Reply #765 on: November 09, 2017, 01:29:58 PM »
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Why doesn't Mr Williams build something there then instead of trying to stop this one?

Or is that too obvious  ???

I was surprised that he did not, maybe the 4 million for the pier was his limit.

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« Reply #766 on: November 09, 2017, 03:16:14 PM »
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Why doesn't Mr Williams build something there then instead of trying to stop this one?

Or is that too obvious  ???


A great idea BTR,   a very large big wheel wouldn't look out of place there.   

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« Reply #767 on: November 09, 2017, 03:19:10 PM »
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Why doesn't Mr Williams build something there then instead of trying to stop this one?

Or is that too obvious  ???

How about the fact that Mr Williams doesn't own the Pier Pavilion or the fact that he was never offered the lease
Or is that too obvious ???
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born2run

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« Reply #768 on: November 09, 2017, 03:23:22 PM »
Why didn't he try and buy it? Would have been an ideal expansion of his pier business.

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« Reply #769 on: November 09, 2017, 04:34:47 PM »
Wasn't there something posted on here saying that Mr Williams was offered the Pier Pavilion site but turned it down?

If that is the case then I bet he regrets not buying it now

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« Reply #770 on: November 09, 2017, 10:05:54 PM »
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Why didn't he try and buy it? Would have been an ideal expansion of his pier business.

Mr Waldron purchased an option to buy the land.
Whilst this was in force, no one else could buy the land.
Actually, no one could trace the owner of the land even if they wanted to, the ownership was buried deep in false names in offshore companies.
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« Reply #771 on: November 09, 2017, 11:46:03 PM »
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Actually, no one could trace the owner of the land even if they wanted to, the ownership was buried deep in false names in offshore companies.

The Owners were and most likely still are Maurice and Donna Nixon. Information readily available from the Land Registry.
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« Reply #772 on: November 10, 2017, 12:06:30 AM »
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Actually, no one could trace the owner of the land even if they wanted to, the ownership was buried deep in false names in offshore companies.

The Owners were and most likely still are Maurice and Donna Nixon. Information readily available from the Land Registry.
They were only mentioned for the very first time when Mr Waldron secured the option in this land.
Prior to this, the only name listed in terms of ownership was Mr David Taylor, of Worcester.
But any address listed for him turned out to be false, and further digging only took one as far as David Taylor (Worcester) Ltd, listed in the Cayman Islands I recall.
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« Reply #773 on: November 10, 2017, 08:58:52 AM »
The fact is Mr Waldron was able to contact the owners and purchase the site. So, anyone else could have done the same...

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« Reply #774 on: November 10, 2017, 08:38:14 PM »
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The fact is Mr Waldron was able to contact the owners and purchase the site. So, anyone else could have done the same...

It's a pity Mr Waldron didn't get a copy of the Title Deeds and read and digest them before he bought the site. It would have saved him a lot of time and money. :-}}}
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« Reply #775 on: November 10, 2017, 09:58:35 PM »
I don't think that he can be short of a bob or two after selling some of those houses in Glan Conwy.

575.000  for a three bed semi detached property       :o

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« Reply #776 on: November 13, 2017, 11:53:55 AM »
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The fact is Mr Waldron was able to contact the owners and purchase the site. So, anyone else could have done the same...

It's a pity Mr Waldron didn't get a copy of the Title Deeds and read and digest them before he bought the site. It would have saved him a lot of time and money. :-}}}
A deal will get done, in spite of public comments to the contrary, I'm sure.