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What should be done with Colwyn Bay Pier?

Demolish it
Carry out basic renovation (spend up to £5m)
Carry out comprehensive renovation, including all buildings (spend up to £10m)

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #766 on: December 10, 2016, 12:41:29 am »
The phrase 'unseemly haste' comes to mind.
.... which is not too shabby for a drunk man!
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #767 on: December 16, 2016, 12:25:25 pm »
Engineers make final assessment on the pier

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/170024/engineers-make-final-assessments-of-colwyn-bay-pier-ahead-of-demolition-bid.aspx#.WEr10vwH9tw.email

It's interesting that CCBC are claiming that the Pier is now in such a bad state that there is no alternative but demolition.

Given that they have owned it for several years, why have they not allocated any money to maintain the structure during their time of ownership? It's gross neglect of a listed building that they have the legal responsibility as owners to maintain.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #768 on: December 16, 2016, 01:10:46 pm »
The same 'stunt' as pulled by Amwyl, when they suddenly found that Pen Morfa was too dilapidated to be saved.  It's a disgrace.
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #769 on: December 23, 2016, 10:55:48 am »
Drone footage captures Colwyn Bay's decaying pier.
Dramatic new aerial footage shows the current state of an under-threat pier on the north Wales coast.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drone-footage-captures-colwyn-bays-12361762

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier..... pier collapse
« Reply #770 on: February 01, 2017, 02:18:15 pm »
After Hugos and Festers post this morning on CB thread, this just in.........

Part of C B pier collapsed...photos....
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https://mobile.twitter.com/C_Dearden/status/826790998277816320

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-colwyn-bay-pier-collapses-12540368

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #771 on: February 01, 2017, 02:48:22 pm »
Another angle...

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #772 on: February 01, 2017, 04:05:49 pm »
Cue evil cackling in some CCBC meeting room.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #773 on: February 01, 2017, 04:46:54 pm »
I take it that the Pier collapsed today Steve.  I was there this morning at about 10.30 am and it was low tide and there was no debris on the sand,    As I mentioned before the safety fence was down on both sides of the Pier and anyone could have walked under the Pier.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #774 on: February 01, 2017, 04:54:15 pm »
H. I believe the first report was about 1pm, you would be one of the last to see it before the collapse, very sad situation, and I think BMD has hit the nail on the head.....Cue evil cackling in some CCBC meeting room.....

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #775 on: February 01, 2017, 08:29:57 pm »
I have to say that I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that the pier has collapsed, if anyone had looked at the condition of the pier in the past twelve months they would not have to have to have been a structural engineer to have seen that a collapse was imminent. I'm just glad that it happened when no one was underneath it. Something has got to be done now as a matter of urgency before the rest follows - every rough high water is going to remove the fencing surrounding the area in places, one nice day, low water, kids underneath exploring - as kids do, it doesn't bear thinking about.

I think that the continued neglect has made the decision for us. 
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #776 on: February 01, 2017, 10:30:19 pm »
Some good drone footage by Steven Thomas shows the extent of the damage to the pier

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-38830339

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #777 on: February 02, 2017, 01:49:11 am »
It's hard to tell, but it looks like a 50ft section of decking, attached to the shoulders or 'whaleboards' as I've heard them called... basically the edgings that knit the railings to the deck and infrastructure has finally succumbed.
The decking and shoulders were surely just rotten wood by now.
Some of the steelwork along that stretch must have failed, in order for the weight of the structure above to bring it down.
The iron piles are still there.
The seaward end was always fragile, and I'm amazed it lasted this long.
It would be interesting to refer to the expensive survey done by Datreys about 7 years ago, to see how they assessed that section.
Also, to get Dave R's view, because who knows more about piers in Wales than him?

Irrespective of today's events, nothing has changed, it can be salvaged and renovated... is there the will? I think there is.
Today's sad event should galvanise supporters, not demoralise them!
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #778 on: February 02, 2017, 06:24:45 am »
Sorry Fester, there is no disrespect intended, but what's required now in respect of the pier is a reality check. I'm sure that there are many people, who like me, would love to see a working viable pier there, but it's far too late to now attempt to salvage the remains of the ruin that blights the landscape of Colwyn Bay.   
Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may have been given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #779 on: February 02, 2017, 10:16:36 am »
I agree with Festers comments above especially....Irrespective of today's events, nothing has changed, it can be salvaged and renovated... is there the will? I think there is.
Today's sad event should galvanise supporters, not demoralise them!  .....

They have talked about shortening the pier before, so sacrifice this section, and get on with it.