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« Reply #420 on: September 18, 2015, 06:14:06 pm »
If you care to look at this,you will see a list of MP's who employ their family. Guess who's name isnt on it!
Ha ha!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/11706561/One-in-four-MPs-employs-a-family-member-the-full-list-revealed.html

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« Reply #421 on: September 18, 2015, 06:45:25 pm »
So in your mind it had absolutely nothing to do with pathetic management,a lack of imagination and an
inadequate funding?

I am unconcerned about you transgressing my civil liberties of privacy by reading my mind as you are wholly incorrect. They were two sides of the same coin. Michael Edwards should have had a spinning bow tie and size 75 shoes. He certainly made the car.
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« Reply #422 on: September 18, 2015, 08:17:34 pm »
So in your mind it had absolutely nothing to do with pathetic management,a lack of imagination and an
inadequate funding?

I am unconcerned about you transgressing my civil liberties of privacy by reading my mind as you are wholly incorrect. They were two sides of the same coin. Michael Edwards should have had a spinning bow tie and size 75 shoes. He certainly made the car.

What about the squirting flower, the orange spikey wig, and the red nose??
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« Reply #423 on: October 11, 2015, 06:52:45 am »
Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may have been given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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« Reply #424 on: October 11, 2015, 08:07:05 am »
I suspect a lot of those whose belief in Corbyn's novelty value led them to vote him in will find their faith sorely tested over the coming months.
Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.  ― Michel de Montaigne

Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.

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« Reply #425 on: October 12, 2015, 04:50:11 pm »
I suspect a lot of those whose belief in Corbyn's novelty value led them to vote him in will find their faith sorely tested over the coming months.

I've not heard a single word of dissent or regret from anyone who voted for Corbyn. I will let you know if I do $good$

Meanwhile Labour party membership has increased by 183,658 more than the Tories have in total.
Tell me again why a man who has already doubled membership is doom and gloom for the party?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/more-people-have-joined-labour-since-the-election-than-are-in-the-entire-conservative-party-a6686001.html

As for your scaremongering terrorist tales, keep them coming it clearly is not doing us any harm. 

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« Reply #426 on: October 12, 2015, 04:59:33 pm »
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I've not heard a single word of dissent or regret from anyone who voted for Corbyn. I will let you know if I do $good$

No;  indeed, the Tories seem delighted.

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Meanwhile Labour party membership has increased by 183,658 more than the Tories have in total.Tell me again why a man who has already doubled membership is doom and gloom for the party?
There are several reasons, but the two main ones are these: firstly, no one knows for sure how active these 'members' are, or how effective they'll be in the next election campaign. The second reason is simply votes. No one knows yet how Corbyn's apparent appeal will translate to the GBP en masse. You need millions of votes to win an election, not just a few thousand.

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As for your scaremongering terrorist tales, keep them coming it clearly is not doing us any harm

Here's the thing: it's comparatively early days, yet apparently there's such a lot of stuff about JC readily available the media seems spoilt for choice. To become a Government Labour has to appeal to millions of voters but when the JC novelty effect starts to diminish - and it will - people will start to look at his record with some concern. He's been around, and there's a lot of stuff out there about him. Even committed Labour people will start to become concerned.
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« Reply #427 on: October 12, 2015, 05:03:13 pm »
I've not heard a single word of dissent or regret from anyone who voted for Corbyn. I will let you know if I do $good$

Really?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33625612
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« Reply #428 on: October 12, 2015, 10:48:28 pm »
It doesn't seem to be going to well.....

.... taken from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34508959

Analysis: BBC political correspondent Eleanor Garnier

It was a long and difficult meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party.

One MP said it was the worst they had ever been to. Jeremy Corbyn was apparently "read the riot act" and said nothing. Another described it as "shambolic", lacking "any aspect of democratic politics".

A former shadow cabinet member told me it was "without doubt one of the most heated" PLPs and that "passions were running high". Others were clearly outraged at the shadow chancellor's change of plan.

As he left the meeting, former cabinet minister Ben Bradshaw branded it a "total shambles".

John Mann MP was furious, he shouted so loudly at the party's leadership he was easily audible in the corridor outside.

Despite that anger, a spokesman for Mr Corbyn said the meeting had been "warm and friendly" claiming the only disagreement had been on the need for there to be more discussion on the issue.

It all shows the seriousness of the cracks within the party and many in Labour will worry about how much worse it could all get.



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« Reply #429 on: October 12, 2015, 11:10:29 pm »
   Just to add a bit of humour to this most serious thread. I have very often been told that visually I resemble Bruce Forsaith, especially when he was on the London Pallidium, Cardew Robinson (the cad) and Rod Hull. I was once introduced to the audience in a hotel in Bournemouth (by prior agreement with the comedian) as being his "friend" without Emu. But the best one today is apparently I look like Mr Corbyn.  That cheered me up, I bet I'm considerably older than him.

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« Reply #430 on: October 13, 2015, 09:57:02 pm »
you do yourself an injustice mike, you look younger than him

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« Reply #431 on: October 14, 2015, 04:30:43 pm »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heartless-tories-laugh-heckle-jeremy-6633102



Out-of-touch Tories laughed and jeered as Jeremy Corbyn asked a question from a young voter today, during a rowdy session of Prime Ministers Questions.

The Labour leader said he'd had 3,500 questions from members of the public who can't afford to buy - or even rent - their own home.


But heartless laughter rose from the government benches as Mr Corbyn raised the concerns of ordinary people.

A young man called Matthew sent in a question asking the Prime Minister if he really thought homes costing £450,000 could really be considered "affordable."

When the Tory side of the chamber descended into hilarity and heckling, Corbyn quipped: "This might be funny to some members but it's not funny to Matthew."


Matthew's question read: "I live in a private rented house in London with three other people. Despite earning a salary well over the median wage, buying even the cheapest of properties is well beyond my reach for years to come.

"Does the Prime Minister think it's fair, and does he really believe that £450,000 is actually an affordable price for a new home for someone on an average income to try and aspire to?"

It was a dig at the new Tory policy, announced in David Cameron 's speech to Conservative Party conference, to change the definition of "affordable housing" to include homes for sale for almost half a million pounds in London.


The Prime Minister said he wanted £450,000 to be the upper limit for affordable housing, and that he wanted to see new houses being built by councils, to sell off for £150,000 or £200,000.

Today was the second time David Cameron got a grilling from the public via Jeremy Corbyn .

In his "people's question time", the Labour leader called for members of the public to send in questions for the Prime Minister, and this week alone he was reportedly sent tens of thousands.

Corbyn's first question was from Kelly, a single mum of a disabled child, asking the Prime Minister how much worse off she'll be when the tax credits cuts bite in April.

Cameron dodged the question - arguing she'd be better off as a result of changes to the tax threshold and the so-called "living wage".

But Corbyn dealt the PM a blow by informing him Kelly would be £1,800 a year worse off.

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« Reply #432 on: October 14, 2015, 07:32:30 pm »
.............oh, is this topic now 'Socialists Workers Hansard'.......?
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« Reply #433 on: October 15, 2015, 07:17:58 am »
"Heartless Tories";  there's a phrase straight out of a 19th C novel.
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« Reply #434 on: October 15, 2015, 12:24:07 pm »
That's because we have a government straight out of a 19th century novel.

Osborne will be sending kids back up the chimneys before long  WWW