Thanks Hugo. one more very good step. I am guessing life would have been pretty tough up there in winter, He must have only farmed there for a short time and interesting that he sold up a good six months before his marriage although I am guessing that was probably the time of the year for sales perhaps especially if it was timed with the fair. This gives me some more clues to track a little further…and a new area to walk next time I am venture up to North Wales…