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Hugo

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #240 on: November 16, 2017, 09:14:26 AM »
I had an e-mail from my friend last night and he said that the lady living at Sarn Y Mynach was Maria Davies and not Mary Davies as first thought.
He is still trying to get more info but said that it will take time.

Hugo

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« Reply #241 on: November 16, 2017, 12:44:15 PM »
The name Maria Davies should be a lot easier to trace than Mary Davies so I tried Roots UK  and only one came up that fits the bill.      That Maria was born1892 and her death was registered in the St Asaph District in the quarter Jul- Sept 1967.    I wonder if this is the same person?

Cambrian,  you're the expert on these type of things and I remember from previous posts that deaths in Glan Conwy were registered in Conwy District many years ago.
There have been changes since but in 1967 would deaths in the Black Cat roundabout area be registered in St Asap?

anneelaine

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« Reply #242 on: November 28, 2017, 08:14:15 PM »
Maria.who I have never heard about
                 Has got to be some relation
 The old lady on the farm was my dads his cousin So its got to be her
 but where from
 it must have been the last time we went up to the farm may 1967.

Hugo

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« Reply #243 on: November 28, 2017, 08:35:24 PM »
I'll see what I can find in the Archives but it won't be before next week

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« Reply #244 on: February 14, 2018, 04:54:08 PM »
I'm sorry but I haven't been able to find out any more about Maria.   

Some time ago you posted that a Mr Rogerson's wife  was called Davies prior to getting married but that she was not in touch with that side of the family but didn't know the reason for it

I was browsing through the Conwy Archives online catalogue and saw this article and thought that you might like to see it

Cyfernod / Ref No CPS1/2/3/48/35
Teitl / Title Defendant: Mary Ann Rogerson
Ddisgrifiad / Description Mary Ann Rogerson of M[arle]bach, near Conway.
Charged with Breaking and Entering the dwelling house of John Davies and stealing one pound in weight of mutton belonging to him.
Witness statements from John Davies of M[arle]bach, a working Gardener; Evan Roberts, a Police Constable at Tywyn; John Davies of Deganwy, a Labourer (Son of John Davies of M[arle]bach) and Mary Ann Rogerson.
Verdict: Dismissed.
Dyddiad / Date 26/5/1902
Graddau / Extent 12 


anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #245 on: February 25, 2018, 03:16:43 AM »
Wow that is a good find O dear but very sad
That would be a great Aunt of mine or my great grandmother Mmmm My gt grandfather pass away after  my grandfather  was born  and left her with nothing she was about 38 years younger than him
where had all his money gone he was a very very rich man I know he lost a lot  around 1864 in London
But to come to that
Yes his wife was called Jane Anne Davies
Thank you
Anneelaine

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #246 on: March 05, 2018, 01:04:25 AM »
 ;D
Hi,all
May have found something or maybe not.
This is my Great grandmother  Catherine Davies Nee Hughes
Name:
Cathrine Davies
Age:
47
Estimated birth year:
abt 1834
Relation:
Wife
Spouse's Name:
Hugh Davies
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Llangystenyn, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish:
Llansantffraid Glan Conway - Tre Trallwyn
County/Island:
Denbighshire
Country:
Wales
Street address:
Mardir Farm
Condition as to marriage:
Married
Education:
View image
Employment status:
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Registration district:
Conway
Sub registration district:
Creuddyn
ED, institution, or vessel:
7
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:
5582
Folio:
125
Page Number:
3
Household Members:
Name
Age
Hugh Davies
53
Cathrine Davies
47
Hugh Davies
24
Owen Davies
22
Elizabeth Davies
8
Ellin Davies
6
She got married in Name:
Cathrine Davies
Age:
47
Estimated birth year:
abt 1834
Relation:
Wife
Spouse's Name:
Hugh Davies
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Llangystenyn, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish:
Llansantffraid Glan Conway - Tre Trallwyn
County/Island:
Denbighshire
Country:
Wales
Street address:
Mardir Farm
Condition as to marriage:
Married
Education:
View image
Employment status:
View image
Registration district:
Conway
Sub registration district:
Creuddyn
ED, institution, or vessel:
7
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:
5582
Folio:
125
Page Number:
3
Household Members:
Name
Age
Hugh Davies
53
Cathrine Davies
47
Hugh Davies
24
Owen Davies
22
Elizabeth Davies
8
Ellin Davies
6
She got married in Llangystenyn,in 1851
Anneelaine



anneelaine

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« Reply #247 on: March 05, 2018, 01:47:49 AM »
 :o ;) D)
maybe not far offffff
Name   Cathrine Hughes
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1851
Event Place   Llangystenin, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Registration District   Conway
Gender   Female
Age   16
Marital Status   Unmarried
Occupation   Farmers Daughter Employed At Home
Relationship to Head of Household   Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)   1835
Birthplace   Llangystenin, Carnarvonshire
Page Number   2
Registration Number   HO107
Piece/Folio   2519 / 231
Affiliate Record Type
omg I am not far off I beleave

anneelaine

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« Reply #248 on: March 05, 2018, 01:51:52 AM »
my grandfather but what the name of the farm lol Jane Anne Davies Grandad
:o so happy
Owen Hughes
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name:   Owen Hughes
Event Type:   Census
Event Date:   1851
Event Place:   Llangystenin, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Registration District:   Conway
Gender:   Male
Age:   52
Marital Status:   Married
Occupation:   Farmer (Of 19) Acres
Relationship to Head of Household:   Head
Birth Year (Estimated):   1799
Birthplace:   Llangystenin, Carnarvonshire
Page Number:   2
Registration Number:   HO107
Piece/Folio:   2519 / 231
Affiliate Record Type:   Household

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #249 on: March 05, 2018, 02:22:50 AM »
I think i have a name it looks like  HENDRE   Llangystenin,?
Anneelaine

Cambrian

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« Reply #250 on: March 05, 2018, 01:32:59 PM »
Hi Anneelaine

Yes, Hendre is a farm at the southern end of the parish of Llangwstennin.  If you follow the minor road from Pensarn in a north easterly direction you will come to it just beyond the point where the road does a sharp right hand bend.

At the time of the Enclosure Awards in 1843, Hendre was a holding of 94 acres, 3 roods and 1 perch.  It was in the ownership of Thomas Peers Williams (1795 - 1875).  He was the owner of the Marl Estate and lived in Anglesey.

anneelaine

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« Reply #251 on: March 06, 2018, 08:23:19 PM »
Hi guys please help
Grave A033
‘Yma mae’n gorwedd gorph WILLIAM, mab OWEN HUGHES o Ben y Ffordd.  Bu farw … o Fawrth 1837 ei oed 21.  Hefyd ANN, gwraig OWEN HUGHES Pen y Ffordd Yr hon a fu farw Ebrill 2ed 1859 yn 68 oed. Hefyd OWEN HUGHES yr hwn a fu farw Gorphenaf 19eg 1872 yn 77 mlwydd oed.  Hefyd ALICE, gwraig ROBERT HUGHES Pen y Ffordd Bu farw Hydref 20 1908 yn 85 mlwydd oed.
Thanks Anneelaine

anneelaine

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« Reply #252 on: March 06, 2018, 08:50:59 PM »
Got it it was in English lower down
Do not think its the right grave
o well keep going
Anneelaine

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #253 on: March 07, 2018, 12:01:32 AM »
 $good$ Hi
Been thinking
 came to me last night ,
Well how can the farm up the hill be a Rogerson no way can it be
 so when my Aunt said you are the Rogerson from up the hill
 I been told I look like my Grandmother  (my Aunt she was in her 90's  at the time )
so when she saw me maybe she saw Jane Ann Rogerson  nee Davies came to her mind
Gordon Rogerson William B bother was in Australia and Roger was in Liverpool
So the farms I would think would be Davies or Hughes because only WB was in Conwy apart from his sister who never married and his mother Mary Rogerson
             Apart from the farm WB had Pensarn farm  around 1907 to about 1928
need to rethink now
Anneelaine