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Hugo

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Re: Quiz Time!
« Reply #3194 on: December 30, 2017, 03:23:56 PM »
Zoom in DVT     I would need a microscope to see that, so I can't comment on it       :o      There were pockets of Caernarfonshire in Denbighshire such as Maenan, Eirias,  Penmaen and Llysfaen but I've not heard of Rhos Fynach being in such a pocket.

The Parish of Llandrillo Yn Rhos on the north west of Denbighshire abutted Caernarfonshire but you already know that so what is the answer to the two questions?


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« Reply #3195 on: December 30, 2017, 04:41:17 PM »
Perhaps the Afon Ganol can help?

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« Reply #3196 on: December 30, 2017, 10:58:41 PM »
Even though the original Afon Ganol is now just a meandering waterway and ditch, in part diverted and culverted, it still retains the distinction of forming the boundary between the county of Caernarvonshire, created by Edward I at the
Statute of Rhuddan in 1284 and the neighbouring lordship of Denbigh,


Now back to the point of the original question,  was Rhos Fynach in Caernarfonshire or was it in Denbighshire?      Also the reason why you think that it was in that county

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« Reply #3197 on: December 31, 2017, 08:53:02 AM »
This is a fact so I hope that it makes the answer easier.

The Statute of Rhuddlan in 1284 meant that the Afon Ganol was the boundary between Denbighshire and Caernarvonshire.
On the eastern side of the river was Denbighshire and the Parish of Llandrillo Yn Rhos and on the western side of the river was Caernarfonshire.

The nearest pocket of Caernarfonshire in Denbighshire to the Afon Ganol was in Eirias so it's not a trick question.

So was Rhos Fynach in Caernarfonshire or Denbighshire and why?

Hugo

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« Reply #3198 on: December 31, 2017, 03:57:55 PM »
No guesses?        it must be harder than I thought,  although there is a fifty fifty chance of guessing correctly and I've already explained about the Afon Ganol being the boundary between the two counties.

If no one has guessed correctly then I'll be giving the answer next year.     ;D

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« Reply #3199 on: December 31, 2017, 04:34:13 PM »
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Zoom in DVT     I would need a microscope to see that, so I can't comment on it       :o      There were pockets of Caernarfonshire in Denbighshire such as Maenan, Eirias,  Penmaen and Llysfaen but I've not heard of Rhos Fynach being in such a pocket.

The Parish of Llandrillo Yn Rhos on the north west of Denbighshire abutted Caernarfonshire but you already know that so what is the answer to the two questions?




This is a zoom in of the image, I think it answers the question.

Valar Morghulis

Hugo

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« Reply #3200 on: December 31, 2017, 04:55:38 PM »
Thanks SDQ you are spot on so well done and well done DVT .      $good$      $good$

After seeing that nice photo of Rhos Fynach  I read Norman Tucker's book "Colwyn Bay its origin and growth"  and it explained why Rhos Fynach was in Caernarfonshire.
A branch of the Afon Ganol entered the sea opposite the end of Penrhyn Ave and the Llandrillo Yn Rhos boundary was across the river in Denbighshire and was near the bottom of the present day Rhos Road.
A map of 1763 in Norman Tucker's book shows the land where the golf club is now and the land north of Penrhyn Avenue as being Penrhyn Marsh and estate.
Since those days the boundary between the two counties moved further west until it came to the Afon Ganol that divides Rhos on Sea Golf Course



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« Reply #3201 on: December 31, 2017, 06:17:34 PM »
SDQ,  I've only just noticed the Rising Gull Cottage in the bottom right hand corner of your photo.    This wasn't included in the 1763 map in Norman Tucker's book but he did make a comment about it.
Apparently it was near the foot of Rhos Road and was a thatched cottage like a lodge at  the entrance to the lane to Rhos Fynach.
It achieved some notoriety because part was in Denbighshire and part in Caernarfonshire