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Offline Ian

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International politics
« on: November 09, 2016, 08:46:56 am »
So, once again the pollsters were wrong. Trump played the Race Hate card, is a thoroughly unpleasant individual and might have a very tricky relationship with even his own party in Congress but the people have spoken and shown they dislike politicians in particular.  I suspect they will learn a hard lesson,
Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.  ― Michel de Montaigne

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Re: International politics
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2016, 08:51:05 am »
The world has now entered a new dark age.
Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may have been given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.


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Re: International politics
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2016, 11:09:41 am »
God Help America

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Re: International politics
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 11:47:20 am »
Beware the harvest yea sow and ignore the little people at your peril 
Quot homines tot sententiae: suus cuique mos.
(There are as many opinions as there are people: each has his own view.)

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 12:17:28 pm »
As with Brexit, it illustrates yet again how large swathes of the worlds population feel like they have no stake in society as it stands.
They have little to lose, so let's vote for change.  Any kind of change.
It's the thin end of a rapidly thickening wedge.
Those with juicy pensions, share portfolios, investments, savings etc.... the world becomes a less predictable place these days.
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Re: International politics
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2016, 03:56:22 pm »
They make a good pair of cowboys

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Re: International politics
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2016, 11:00:24 pm »
I would only trust the horse

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Re: International politics
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 09:21:31 am »
As with Brexit, it illustrates yet again how large swathes of the worlds population feel like they have no stake in society as it stands.
They have little to lose, so let's vote for change.  Any kind of change.
It's the thin end of a rapidly thickening wedge.
Those with juicy pensions, share portfolios, investments, savings etc.... the world becomes a less predictable place these days.
At risk of sounding like Jeremy Corbyn, the rich Liberal elite in the US have brought this upon themselves. The Democrats could not have a picked a worse candidate to go up against Trump, she symbolises everything that the majority of people in America despise.

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Re: International politics
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2016, 09:54:39 am »
By the reports of the 'protests' in many places in the USA, it appears that everyone in the USA is content with the thought of Trump being inaugurated.

However, a chum sent me this:  https://medium.com/@theonlytoby/history-tells-us-what-will-happen-next-with-brexit-trump-a3fefd154714#.9gk4gotl6

Most interesting.... it dovetails 'Prisoners of Geography' by Tim Marshall.
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Re: International politics
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 10:32:08 am »
Just waiting for Nicola Sturgeon to complain that Scotland didn't vote for Brexit plus plus plus plus  >>> >>>

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Re: International politics
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 01:06:47 pm »
Scotland didn't vote for Brexit. Why should they have to suffer because of our stupidity?
Brexit is a bit like the Landlord of a block of flats asking his tenants to decide what improvements they want him to do to the place. two of his four tenants have decided for reasons of their own that they want the whole block of flats burned to the ground, perhaps they though there was too many visitors from other blocks of flats coming into their tenement, who knows! Because these tenants have the bigger flats their votes rule and the decision is made to burn down the whole block of flats. of course the landlord was very silly for allowing his tenants an open vote on such a serious issue so of course the first thing he does after the votes are counted is resign. His career as a landlord is over. However they have a new landlord now and in order to please her two biggest tenants she says the decision they voted for, to burn their houses to the ground, still stands - hooray!

But not hooray for the two families in the smaller flats who voted for the house to 'remain' standing.

The moral of the story is reverse this idiotic decision now before it does us more harm. $good$

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Re: International politics
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 08:37:36 pm »
Just food for thought; I wonder if Scotland would have voted the same way if Nicola Sturgeon and her Nationalist Party with their independence agenda had not been gifted power by the ineffectual and failed policies of previous Labour administrations. England makes up 83.9% of the population of the UK where as Scotland makes up only 8.4%. The tail never wags the dog.
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Re: International politics
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 11:30:20 pm »
No it does not.
The tail oil kept the UK afloat in the 1970/80s only for ot to be squandered by Thatcher and Co.
Just remember if Scotland had not got the oil you would be a lot poorer than you are  now. It kept the UK afloat and do not forget that fact.

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Re: International politics
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2016, 05:44:23 pm »
Scotland didn't vote for Brexit. Why should they have to suffer because of our stupidity?
Brexit is a bit like the Landlord of a block of flats asking his tenants to decide what improvements they want him to do to the place. two of his four tenants have decided for reasons of their own that they want the whole block of flats burned to the ground, perhaps they though there was too many visitors from other blocks of flats coming into their tenement, who knows! Because these tenants have the bigger flats their votes rule and the decision is made to burn down the whole block of flats. of course the landlord was very silly for allowing his tenants an open vote on such a serious issue so of course the first thing he does after the votes are counted is resign. His career as a landlord is over. However they have a new landlord now and in order to please her two biggest tenants she says the decision they voted for, to burn their houses to the ground, still stands - hooray!

But not hooray for the two families in the smaller flats who voted for the house to 'remain' standing.

The moral of the story is reverse this idiotic decision now before it does us more harm. $good$

We have a system called democracy in the United Kingdom - it applies to all of the UK - together.




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Re: International politics
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2016, 08:57:28 am »
The problem is that 'democracy' don't always mean what you might imagine. The US knows that rather well, facing the prospect of a president who got fewer votes than the opposer. In the UK governments are frequently elected with far fewer than half the votes.
Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.  ― Michel de Montaigne

Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.