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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2017, 02:10:51 pm »
Yes.

Otherwise every family that ever goes on holiday would have an appeal put out for their whereabouts!

There are a 101 other things the police could have done to find out where they were without launching a public facebook appeal. Lazy and incompetent and not for the first time  &shake&

Congratulations. The winner of the Idiot Post of the Year Award.
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2017, 02:15:39 pm »
There are some questions over this. Why were the Police looking for them in the first instance? The headline states "Nicole Rowlands, 43, and her husband David, 46, were being sought by police". That was later modified on FB, but still...
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2017, 02:18:33 pm »
Yes.

Otherwise every family that ever goes on holiday would have an appeal put out for their whereabouts!

There are a 101 other things the police could have done to find out where they were without launching a public facebook appeal. Lazy and incompetent and not for the first time  &shake&


The police were only doing their job, they must have acted after someone reported them missing.
As for incompetence, that goes to that rag advertising that these people are away from their home, I hope they don't get burgled before they return.
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2017, 03:05:23 pm »
There are sensible ways to act and there are silly ways. This was silly and way over the top.

Before launching a public appeal don't you think it would have been prudent to have sought friends and relatives and ask for their whereabouts?

Prudent to enquire at their places off work or their Children's schools to see if they know whY they have been 'missing'

If they would have done that they would have found out they were on holiday.


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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2017, 03:15:06 pm »
Yes.

Otherwise every family that ever goes on holiday would have an appeal put out for their whereabouts!

There are a 101 other things the police could have done to find out where they were without launching a public facebook appeal. Lazy and incompetent and not for the first time  &shake&

Congratulations. The winner of the Idiot Post of the Year Award.

If facebook didn't exist like it didn't 20 years ago.
Do you think they would have run straight to the TV and the newspapers without doing any prior research?
No, but because it's quick and easy to send a FB post they opted for that instead of doing some work.

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2017, 03:16:03 pm »
There are sensible ways to act and there are silly ways. This was silly and way over the top.

Before launching a public appeal don't you think it would have been prudent to have sought friends and relatives and ask for their whereabouts?

Prudent to enquire at their places off work or their Children's schools to see if they know whY they have been 'missing'

If they would have done that they would have found out they were on holiday.

Schools are shut at the moment mate, in case you haven't noticed.
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2017, 03:40:10 pm »
Good point -  :o  with those observation skills you'd make head of NWP in a matter of weeks $good$

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2017, 04:32:07 pm »
There are sensible ways to act and there are silly ways. This was silly and way over the top.

Before launching a public appeal don't you think it would have been prudent to have sought friends and relatives and ask for their whereabouts?

Prudent to enquire at their places off work or their Children's schools to see if they know whY they have been 'missing'

If they would have done that they would have found out they were on holiday.

From a pantomath, who is now an expert on Policing.

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2017, 04:42:08 pm »
You don't need to be an expert or a know it all it's called common sense.

I found this passage in the 'idiots guide to policing'

A member of the public reports than an entire family haven't been seen for some days

do you

A) Immediately set up a missing person case launching an urgent appeal on facebook alerting members of the public to the missing family's plight

B) Find out where one of them works, get their contact details from their workplace and give them a ring to see where they are!

If you picked A congratulations you have passed!

Next test......What to do when a Dog runs on a Motorway.  ;D


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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2017, 05:06:11 pm »
You don't need to be an expert or a know it all it's called common sense.

I found this passage in the 'idiots guide to policing'

A member of the public reports than an entire family haven't been seen for some days

do you

A) Immediately set up a missing person case launching an urgent appeal on facebook alerting members of the public to the missing family's plight

B) Find out where one of them works, get their contact details from their workplace and give them a ring to see where they are!

If you picked A congratulations you have passed!

Next test......What to do when a Dog runs on a Motorway.  ;D

That's a surprise, you having an idiots guide......
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #86 on: September 29, 2017, 08:58:26 am »
The old Llandudno Heritage Trust commissioned a detailed report back in 1992, which had several detailed recommendations. But the amount of petty bickering, in-fighting and malicious activity among the town councillors of all parties ensured nothing came of it. However, one excellent example is Miami, which has very similar problems. They used the US corps of engineers to dump billions of tons of sand on the beach. 

The North Shore beach issue is interesting, partly because I doubt many councillors even barely comprehend it.

Facts: 1. Sea levels are rising, although extremely slowly.
2. The West and North West of the UK land mass is also rising, something a lot of folk don't know.
3. The North shore is protected by the current prevailing wind systems. 
4. To stop potential storm damage the beach levels need raising. Millions of tons of sand would accomplish that just as well as dumping the absurd shingle.

So a sand restoration project would seem the sensible option. It would have to be ongoing. The EU would give generous grants for that...
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2017, 09:55:37 am »
Why is sand restoration a good option, if it's only as good as the shingle?... and the shingle is already there?
It sounds like massive expense for no benefit to me.

I'll say again, insufficient numbers of people use the bit of beach we have to justify any more expansion of it.
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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #88 on: September 29, 2017, 11:39:58 am »
I suspect that the Councillors did not fully understand what they were voting for when they agreed to the sea defences at West Shore and the North Shore. I would imagine that they were persuaded to go for the cheap quick fix option rather than a more suitable but more expensive one.

They have made serious mistakes with both beaches but unfortunately they are not accountable for their actions and don't seem to have learnt anything from their past mistakes.     I wouldn't call the stuff that they have put on the North Shore as shingle,  the contractors call it cobbles and there is a load of it on the beach.   Others just call it an eyesore but whatever happens to it, the blame lies with the CCBC

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC, NAfW, UK Government, Local council and others
« Reply #89 on: September 29, 2017, 11:48:19 am »
Why is sand restoration a good option, if it's only as good as the shingle?... and the shingle is already there?
I'll say again, insufficient numbers of people use the bit of beach we have to justify any more expansion of it.

I think it's a 'build it and they will come' option, F; it's highly likely that the publicity regarding the parlous state of most of the beach has resulted in comparatively few trippers - plus this season hasn't been the best, weather-wise.  But a hot summer and a fantastic sandy beach might prove a draw.
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