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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2011, 08:58:26 AM »
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Another shop nearby was V.G. Stores on the corner of Gwydyr Road & Rhuddlan Ave, run by the Hanson family. John Garstang\\''s of Rhos-on-Sea made deliveries there, and I regulary used to cadge a ride with the driver back down to Maes-du-Road - big adventure for a toddler.\r\nAlways remember Audrey Hanson cutting up sliced ham with the electric circular machine on top of the counter.
\r\n\r\nYep, I loved that shop, every schoolday I would run down Rhudlan Ave from Stella Maris to buy penny sweets on the way home. It later got turned in to a hairdressers before changing back to a house.'),

(1020, 'I happened on this site whilst Googling with childhood memories and the name Tommy Rose drew me here.\r\n\r\nI spent hollidays in Llandudno in the middle 1960s as a boy of 8 and 9.  I saw Tommy Rose in Catlin\\''s Showtime and the Arcadia (?) Theatre which was at the other end of the bay from the Pier Pavilion.  Tommy Rose was in the show in both 1963 and 1964 certainly and the top of the bill both times was Felix Bowness who went on to star in "Hi De Hi" on TV.  Tommy Rose was stooge to Felix in lots of the sketches and would hand out the sticks of rock and presents to the kids who came up onstage.  Also in the shows I recall Lettie Laughton who was the glamour interest for the dads.  I don\\''t know if she was a local character.\r\n\r\nIn 1963 the star at the Pier Pavilion was Russ Conway who I think had a place nearby (Abergelly ???).  He was renowned for barging past the autograph hunters waiting at the stagedoor with a face like thunder.\r\n\r\nIn 1964 at the Pier Pavilion we were treated to Clarkson Rose in his usual show "Twinkle".  Fortunately I am from a theatrical family (my old dad played the Arcadia in the 1930s and 40s) so Clarkson Rose dressed as a woman was something for which I was prepared !!!!\r\n\r\nI recall the Palladium in both years and seeing "Simple Spyman" with George Moon one year and another play on the other year with Ken Platt.\r\n\r\nWe always stayed at the Knowsley Hotel on North Parade which was run by Jim Nield and his wife then.\r\n\r\nThere was a fortune teller on the pier who I recall was called Madam Pat.  There was another fortune teller in the amusement arcade on the pier but she was a Jehovah\\''s Witness and used to end her readings by trying to convert people. In 1964 at the Odeon I recall the Beatles film "A Hard Days Night" playing.  Litttle did we know we were in the middle of the swinging sixties. Then, finally, of course, there was Happy Valley with Alex and his friends.  I recall that Alex used to autograph the bare arms of the girls and this meant they never washed until they got home.Happy, long gone days.  I am 53 now, haven\\''t been back to the town since 1964 and live in the Midlands.  One day I will come back and see what has changed....and what hasn't.'),

(1021, 'Talking about the pier has just jogged my memory-- I have a silhouette of myself aged about 10 cut from black paper by the chap on the pier.'),

(1022, 'Hi Mike, my name is Richard Sutton (knicknamed sooty) the Historian for Llandudno Enthusiasts. I worked as a pier crew member (pre-Vaughan Turner becoming the Pier Master). I worked with the crew for seven years between 1971/2 to 1978/79 (I think off the top of my head). The crew members I worked with were... Vaughan Turner, Willy Reilley, George Vale, Davey Nokes, there was a welsh lad cant remember his name, and another guy who was a biker, Mike Shields, those are who I remember during my time anyway, there was lots more. Perhaps you remember Eric Potter, the chief Electrician and Maintenance, the General Manager was George Rogers. It was also funny that you mentioned about the routines of going out drinking, getting sloshed, staying in the crew cabin and starting your shift afterward, those were the rituals that I started! (chuckles). I remember many great nights after work at the Grand Hotel Roman Room! and Linda Saxone was one of the singers she starred on New Faces on the television. Do you remember the workshops beneath the Pier Pavilion? I have many photos which Llandudno Enthusiasts will be putting into the \\''Characters of the Pier\\'' exclusive article sometime later this year, if you have anything you would like to contribute to that article, please get in touch.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1026, 'Yes, I have one of those sillhouettes done on the pier also.  Thanks for reminding me.'),

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We always stayed at the Knowsley Hotel on North Parade which was run by Jim Nield and his wife then.
\r\n\r\nJust thought i\\''d share this advert dated c1950\\''s and quite rightly, yes it was run by Mr & Mrs J R Nield.

(1030, 'I worked their with Will, Mike Shields!! so we do know each other, it would not surprise me that I am the Welsh lad you speak of,  we used to use the work shop under the Pav as a o room, next to it was a room with a large hut (sort of) that the paint was kept in, for the winter work, I was there around 1976 as I was 21 that year and I was let off early that day\r\nThe girl who sang in the Roman Room now lives here in Jersey!\r\n\r\nDo you remember Dennis? he was the Pier Master when I started, he went to work on the boats as a radio man, then there was Barry, his father in law ran the Golden Goose arcade, then it was Vaughn.\r\n\r\nUnfortunately I do not have any photos of that time'),

(1031, 'Hi Bri I have made some enquiries for you. The Register of Marriages is with the Rev. Neil Kirkham at the Gloddaeth Reform Church (was the English Presbyterian Church before the two churches amalgamated(if that is the right word!) ). I have spoken to Neil and he is expecting a visit from you. Good luck!'),

(1032, 'Thanks jessam.\r\n\r\nI came to a dead-end many years ago down this particular line. :cry: \r\n\r\nApparently, Christ UR Church (formerly the Welsh and then English Congregational Church) was built in 1858 and one set of my great, great, grandparents got married at the church three years later in August 1861.\r\n\r\nIf Neil can manage to provide me with their home address at the time then it could prove lucky for me because there was also a census in 1861 :lol: '),

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 Do you remember Dennis? he was the Pier Master when I started, he went to work on the boats as a radio man, then there was Barry, his father in law ran the Golden Goose arcade, then it was Vaughn.
\r\nDid Dennis have ginger hair?'),

(1041, 'Hi Brian, yup he did have red hair! :)\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1042, 'Hi Mike, I dont remember you off the top of my head, you have a distinctive name, and for some reason it just doesnt stick out to me. I will tell a bit more about myself to see if we can rekindle any lost memories. Do you remember any of the ladies who worked in the cafe at the end of the pier and the Aquarium and who ran it? I was also the Unit Manager for the childrens rides along the pier around the last 3 years of my reign, do you remember ''Sexy'' Jane and Linda Gray (the ghost train), Lyn Boyd & Carol Harding (the world tour), I was going out with Carol for 4 years. My General Managed was George Rogers he went on to run the Rhoslan Pub in Westshore. The only Welsh person I remember who worked with me, this welsh person fell onto the rocks during winter maintenance, the tide was out, I dont know how he survived.Let me know what other memories you have,Richard Sutton,Historian for Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1043, 'I was there when the lad fell, he was asked to bang some of the decking planks together so we could nail them properly, he was wearing heavy motorbike boots with a steel bar in the sole for the kick start, he stood on one of the joists and swung a hammer (lump hammer I think) missed the plank and fell over onto the rocks, he was OK, but we had to call the inshore lifeboat as the tide was coming in, I remember going to the slip to see if he was ok and he was sea sick on the boat, he was the only deck hand that stayed on the pier till the IOM steamer moored as even the slightest movement of the dolphin made him turn green, unfortunately I cant remember his name, just that he had a Norton Commando bike and he went everywhere with his crash helmet, I don\\''t think I ever saw him in anything else other than a leather jacket and big boots. I remember the rides but cannot place a face on anyone running them, sorry.'),

(1044, 'My name comes from when I used to work in the Savoy cinema, everyone called me that.'),

(1045, 'I returned to Llandudno  from New Zealand a couple of years ago and spent 14 months in Llandudno. Quite Honeslty I was shocked at the way the town had been allowed to run down. The pavements were deadly, the roads were downright dangerous, potholes etc.. and the town was overrun by builders ripping the guts out of hotels and guest houses and turning them into luxury flats. West Shore was the saddest sight, with rubbish and sand piled up against the wall, weeds everywhere and a pool that seemed to be the preserve of swans, seagulls and a man with rather large model boats. The west shore has a spectacular view of the Conwy mountains, Conwy bay and Anglesey and the sunsets are to die for. What a sight for visitors (and locals) if they could view all this from the windows of a bistro, bar or cafe on the west shore. What a criminal waste of resources this is. And Oh my God, the sight where the pier pavilion was is an assault on the eyes. What must tourists think when they see that. I decided, along with my wife, to return to New Zealand as my wife could not settle back in Wales, even though she is from the Junction. For myself, I felt sad at the decline of the town, but also felt a degree of anger that the people of Llandudno were being let down by their representatives. The only development taking place was in the form of large national retail chains, which had the appearance of turning the Links end of town into an industrial park. I presume this sort of development occurs at little cost to the council, but correct me if I am wrong. It gives me no pleasure to be so negative about Llandudno. I still vividly remember my first sight of the bay, as the coach I was travelling in from my native Birmingham, cruised alongside the Little Orme at Craigside. I thought the place was paradise. It was clean, everything was well maintained and the place bustled with tourists. I know things have changed and competition from cheap overseas holidays is fierce, but hey, Llandudno has so much potential and it''s geographical location is spectacular. Its just a shame that it''s keepers don't have the drive and vision to maximise the towns potential. This website is great. Thanks to those who run it. Cheers for now.'),

(1046, 'I live in New Zealand now but my favourite place in Llandudno has to be the Great Orme. It\\''s majestic and you can feel it\\''s history in the air. When I lived in town, I used to enjoy cycling around the Marine Drive and would stop near the o and be o and just look out to see. One magical moment occured early one sunday morning as I sat there in the sun and a small pod of whales glided past under the Orme. The sea was calm and they broke the water every so often. A sight I\\''ve never forgotten. yeah... the Orme rocks.'),

(1050, 'Nippy, I must say I totally agree with you, I myself now live in Jersey, Channel Islands, but each time I come home I see something else has been let to rot, I now make fewer and fewer of visits home as I cannot bare to see a lovely town like Llandudno go to waste, I used to work in the cinemas in Llandudno, Colwyn Bay and Rhyl, I understand that the Savoy is just a shell of a building, the council never stopped the new owners tearing it down  :( \r\nThe Palladium is now a Witherspoons, at least they kept things as near as possible so that when you go in you can see what it looked like when it was used as a cinema and bingo hall.I have not been on the Pier for some years now, but that was already in decay when I finished working there.'),

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In the Wikipedia article on Llandudno Pier Pavilion it states - \r\n\r\n"One end of the building housed the Egyptian Hall, which featured hieroglyphics on it\\''s wall decorations".
\r\nAh yes, I wrote that article.  :oops: \r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nYes I know.  :wink:  Where did you get the info on the hieroglyphics?\r\n\r\nThe Royal American Bioscope had shows in an area under the Pavilion in 1913.'),

(1054, 'Craig, I would imagine it is probably much quicker to buy a bag of chips from Barnacles, then walk over the road and stand on Bog Island. :lol:  :lol: '),

(1055, 'Saw one last week snatch a whole Ham Bone teacake from a teenager on Mostyn St. His language was choice !!'),

(13590, 'In the Wikipedia article on Llandudno Pier Pavilion it states - \r\n\r\n"One end of the building housed the Egyptian Hall, which featured hieroglyphics on it\\''s wall decorations".'),

(1064, 'Doesnt she point the wrong way for England and Ireland in the clip (just as they walk past the Grand Hotel) ??'),

(1065, 'Hows about this for a view ?\r\n\r\nhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-14512039.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy\r\n\r\nHow much do we reckon for the house then , 3/4 million ? Come on lottery win'),

(1066, 'Many many thanks, Craig, for posting the scan of the Knowsley Hotel brochure where I stayed as a lad.  That\\''s the place.  In fact I recall we had that brochure at one time.  My mother (90 this year and still going well) will really enjoy seeing it.  It was a really nice hotel with easy reach to the sea and the pier.  It was, how shall I say, genteel.  There were a couple of residents who were there all year round and Jim Nield and his wife lived on the premises.'),

(1067, 'It may not be perfect but Llandudno has been voted the happiest place in Wales and second best in the UK.\r\n\r\nIt may have faults and they need addressing but Crown Back I Think.  :D'),

(1068, 'Better than either Rhyl or Colwyn Bay.'),

(1069, 'I was there on holiday last year and intend to come back this year. I didnt think it was bad, and indeed was much cleaner and tidier than other areas such as Colwyn Bay. It still retains a relaxed atmosphere as well, whereas places like Rhyl with its rundown front feels "cheap". \r\n\r\nHowever I do think it needs to do something to keep people coming back. Whilst we used Llandudno as a base we went out a lot to other places, so theoretically we could have stayed somewhere else and just visited Llandudno. But then I wonder if we would have travelled to LLandudno just to visit. I think the pier does look run down, the front is all hotels, we never bothered with the West Shore and the shops weren1t varied enough. If I`m honest the only reason I would take a trip to LLandudno if I was staying somewhere else would be to go up the Orme, and eventually even that would get boring.'),

(1070, 'Yes they\\''ve got their directions completely the wrong way round! well spotted.\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1073, 'While part of that scene was being set up the director, John Scheslinger, was being particularly fussy about William Devane\\''s position. Mr. Devane eventually snapped with "I\\''ll position myself on top of her if you want". Ms. Redgrave, with her vast experience, naturally ignored the comment'),

(1074, 'Spotted a few local characters mentioned on this URL here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login if anyone wants to add on to them in this thread feel free! :)\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1075, 'Another one I noticed on my walks in town, the Cambridge Restaurant on Mostyn Street, well they\\''ve got to have been going since very early 1900 right? featured in many street scene postcards c1900-1905.'),

(1076, 'The subject of buskers--\r\nWhat about the woman with the pug dog/dogs and a portable organ ? She had a beige dog, then two and now only the black one .'),

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Another one I noticed on my walks in town, the Cambridge Restaurant on Mostyn Street, well they\\''ve got to have been going since very early 1900 right? featured in many street scene postcards c1900-1905.
\r\n\r\nYes, I thought of them, too. Has anyone ever been in there? To be honest, it gives the impression to me from the outside of being stuck in a timewarp - maybe it could do with a makeover?\r\n\r\nSC'),

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Spotted a few local characters mentioned on this URL here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login if anyone wants to add on to them in this thread feel free! :)\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nThis intrigued me:\r\n\r\n"The best known bitch of all times must be Hilda - if you\\''ve been to her hotel you\\''ll know who I\\''m talking about."\r\n\r\nWhat\\''s this all about?\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1079, 'I think that, in the main, the town is not too bad but there certainly is room for improvement with things like maintenance of public spaces, street cleaning, parks etc.I take a stroll up the Pier on a regular basis and can\\''t say that the level of maintenance has changed much from the late 1980s, when I worked there. If anything, it has improved a little in recent years. What has changed in the last few years is the unfortunate trend for taking the Pier down market in terms of attractions etc. A lot of the kiosks selling tacky clothes and other rubbish, the all pervasive smell of chips from that kiosk outside Langtry\\''s Bar, awful Irish ballads blaring out from the cd kiosk outside the Grand Hotel, the fairground rides and games all over the place. It''s all too reminiscent of Rhyl! Seriously, I think a move upmarket would help the Pier. Get rid of the tacky stuff, let some of the kiosks out to artists at reduced rents, bring back the orchestral concerts (but maybe with a quartet instead of an orchestra!). And get some decent coffee in the cafe! Whilst other British seaside resorts are regenerating by moving upmarket, Llandudno pier is doing the opposite.\r\n\r\nThe point made about the West Shore is a very good one - it\\''s totally wasted at the moment - let''s see it sympathetically redeveloped into a more attractive environment, with a cafe/bar with fantastic views and lots of outside seating.SC'),

(1080, 'Funny you should ask that that question.\r\n\r\nFor decades, I have regularly looked up and often wondered what it would be like sitting in one of these seats and looking down on Mostyn Street whilst eating.Well last summer, my missus decided to \\''treat\\'' me.We found the food and service quite disappointing but I suppose good value-for-money. I also believe you are correct and it certainly needs a makeover.However, we did manage to sit in one of those window seats so I can finally cross off the Cambridge Restaurant from my list of most important things I want to do before I ....!! :lol: '),

(1082, 'Maybe !!Please remember a first floor location doesn\\''t always suit some customers who visit our town.\r\n\r\nUnless you already own the building and run the business then I suppose there is very little incentive to invest in a major refurbishment.'),

(1084, 'Glad someone else said that, we went to the Cambridge about 7 years ago and said once is enough!\r\nAnother thing to consider nowadays is the bloomin\\'' disability statement, if you can\\''t fit a lift, accommodate wheel chairs etc etc you have to say why and make the statement available to anyone who asks !\r\nWe are a Grade 2 listed building in a Conservation Area and can\\''t \\''muck about\\'' with the place ie. widen doors, knock walls down or deface the outside with anything, can\\''t even have drain pipes at the front except for rainwater, no plastic gutters or anything like that. SO at one side we have Conwy CBC and Mostyn Estates laying down one set of rules and at the other the Government (pardon me whilst I puke) trying to enforce another.! Grr :x'),

(1085, 'Yes I fully agree with you there.\r\nIf any more \\''tack\\'' gets on the pier it will be un-walkable.\r\nWest Shore is lovely, breezy and as you look out into the estuary the views are breathtaking.'),

(1086, 'West Shore needs a wnebar/bistro with a glass front. No telly soft music and candle lights on the bar and tables. Did we ever have that???'),
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2011, 08:59:18 AM »
(1088, 'From a "non residents" point of view, I always thought West Shore was more the older persons domain, with residential housing . The North Shore seems more touristy.'),

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 Do you remember Dennis? he was the Pier Master when I started, he went to work on the boats as a radio man, then there was Barry, his father in law ran the Golden Goose arcade, then it was Vaughn.
\r\nDid Dennis have ginger hair?
\r\n\r\nThe gentleman who ran the Golden Goose arcade was Harry True. Just thought i\\''d share that with you! :)\r\n\r\nRichard Sutton, Historian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1090, '
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 Do you remember Dennis? he was the Pier Master when I started, he went to work on the boats as a radio man, then there was Barry, his father in law ran the Golden Goose arcade, then it was Vaughn.
\r\nDid Dennis have ginger hair?
\r\n\r\nThe gentleman who ran the Golden Goose arcade was Harry True. Just thought i\\''d share that with you! :)\r\n\r\nRichard Sutton, Historian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nWhen I first arrived at the pier in about 1987, a guy called Andy Barwick was the manager of the Golden Goose. I wonder if he took over from Harry True or there was someone else inbetween?\r\n\r\nSC'),

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Spotted a few local characters mentioned on this URL here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login if anyone wants to add on to them in this thread feel free! :)\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nThis intrigued me:\r\n\r\n"The best known bitch of all times must be Hilda - if you\\''ve been to her hotel you\\''ll know who I\\''m talking about."\r\n\r\nWhat\\''s this all about?\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nNo idea, but it would be interesting to find out the name of the charcter who wrote all that, I think he/she is pulling our leg on a few of them lol :)\r\n\r\nTheres the St Hilda Hotel isnt there if I can remember rightly  :roll: hmmm...\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(1093, 'Was there? or are you thinking of the St. Kilda?'),

(1592, 'A mutual collaboration has emerged between two of Llandudnos newest groups, Llandudno Enthusiasts and the Llandudno Heritage Trust. We have proposed the patron title \\''Llandudno Enthusiasts friends of Llandudno Heritage Trust\\''. We believe this move will bring equal benefits to both parties. Both groups will continue to maintain an independent posture in the community. We will be sharing our views and ideas over the coming months as well as lending a helping hand.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1095, 'lol, yes your right  :oops: \r\n\r\nhehe :)'),

(6552, 'I lived and worked in the Grand Hotel in the late sixties and the cast of Family at war from the telly were filming on the end of the pier. We were allowed to watch them filming in the early hours of the morning. It was quite interesting. Many of the actors and crew stayed in the hotel.Some of the female stars were very snooty. was not impressed by how they spoke to staff.'),

(8253, 'Hi peeps, I was wondering if anyone knows much about the Constable Bank which is just off Llandudno Bay, any snippets or facts you have about its importance are much welcome.'),

(1099, 'There was another manager after Harry, I seem to recall his name as Dennis, not sure if I\\''m right though, he used to hide away in the workshop with the heater full on cause he was so skinny, used to always have a pipe on him, I think he lost his job cause the company wanted him out and planted a fifty pence piece in a copper machine on the night before the weekly count, after the count it was not there (not sure how they would know that) and accused Dennis of stealing and sacked him, shame really cause he was a great guy.'),

(1100, 'lol, I recall my mum Julie having a job in the amusements arcade many year ago as a cashier, and she got sacked for stealing too! (she didnt do it btw). Seems to be a tradition they have if they dont like someone.\r\n\r\nCraig.'),

(6388, 'Chris, to me the address of Bryn Gosol Farm suggests Meurig could be the son of Bob Parry who used to be a Youth Club Leader in Llandudno Junction as well a Games Teacher at Ysgol Aberconwy during the sixties and seventies.\r\n\r\nFor years, Bob Parry was an active local councillor but I haven\\''t seen or heard of him for many years.\r\n\r\nPerhaps, this post may assist someone else to put two and two together for you.   :wink: '),

(6389, 'Does anyone remember the attractions under the Pavillion?\r\n\r\nI recall there was a ghost train at one time.'),

(6390, 'Hi bri. Yes, you\\''re right. His father is Bob Parry. Thanks. Hope that rings a few bells. He also had a younger sister, Cerys, who did quite a lot of showjumping. Don\\''t know if she still does it now.'),

(1102, 'Hi \r\ni worked at brieley s factory on queens road next to the old printer s when i left school in the early seventies we used to make desk shredders it was managed by the son in law Alan Paddock Who runs the Somerset and Wave creast hotels on the prom with his wife Jill.'),
(1103, 'Hi Mr Sutton\r\nRember you and the crew when you were running the world tour and the ghost train i was working for tom criton in the cafe on the end and in the ice cream kiosk by the goose` good days.\r\nI also worked with your mum in the milk bar with mr sharples in charge.\r\nDo you still have the old cortina crusader.'),

(1104, 'Hi Mike,\r\nThe lad that fell in of the girders i seem to remember was Irlam .\r\nDoes anyone remember the old Amusements under the pier and the old dodgem boats were the goose is.'),

(6387, 'I thought all Masters wore tweed sports jackets with leather patches on the elbows.'),

(1107, 'Hi Pobo, many thanks for your message, I remember Tom Criton very well, he was very friendly with George Rogers the manager of the Pier, two sad things to tell you, firstly the Courtina Crusader I had to scrap and secondly my mother died 3 years ago, thanks for sharing the memories and do you have anymore? P.S. please reveal the mystery person (pobo) :)\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Hi Mike,\r\nThe lad that fell in of the girders i seem to remember was Irlam .\r\nDoes anyone remember the old Amusements under the pier and the old dodgem boats were the goose is.
\r\n\r\nThanks Pobo for jogging my memory, yes it was in fact Irlam. I was around when when the boats were there, the amusements beneath the pavilion was Toussons a penny arcade, also had dodgem cars down there.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1109, 'When did your mum work there?'),

(1110, 'Tousons that was the place i remember it was  a massive place.\r\nHow on earth nobody was killed on the  dodgem boats i domnt think youd get permision to run them these days. Dave'),

(1111, 'Hmmm I dont know exactly when, as I dont speak to my mum anymore, but i\\''m guessing she worked in the Arcade sometime during 1972/80, pretty vague guess. She was known as Julie Foy back then.'),

(1112, 'do you remember the sister to the Cambridge grill it was called the oxford it was above lotus shoe shop now gone as well.'),

(1113, 'It dont matter how long im away for` the sight of the prom with the great orme in the back ground as you come over penrhyn hill still makes me go wow there is no better sight.\r\n                                          Dave'),

(1114, 'I do recall a Julie, but cannot place a face to the name, shame your not talking to her as it would be nice to catch up with the people that worked the pier when I was there.     :)'),

(1115, 'Hi Pobo, maybe you knew my father Vernon Griffiths, he is living here in Stoke on Trent now, possibly his mates Frank Gibson and ? Herd from Penrhyn Bay?\r\nregards Gareth'),

(1117, 'What era was the skating rink, 70s 80s? and was it in the same place where there used to be skate boarding, etc?\r\n\r\nWouldn\\''t it be good now that ice skating has gained popularity, in view of Dancing on Ice, if the waste land next to the Grand Theatre could be made into an ice rink.'),

(8262, 'I think so...John Jones\\'' father was Peter Jones i believe. My research suggests he had 9 children, although I haven\\''t confirmed this 100% (Richard Jones was my gt gt grandfather):\r\n\r\n   1. Catherine Jones, b., Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.\r\n   2. Margaret Jones, b., Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.\r\n   3. Thomas Jones, b., Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.\r\n   4. Hugh Jones, b. 1802, Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire, d. 1861.\r\n   5. William Jones, b. 1804, Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.\r\n   6. John Jones, b. 1806, Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.\r\n   7. Robert Jones, b. 1811, Dwygyfylchi, Caernarvonshire, Wales.\r\n   8. Richard Jones, b. 1821, Caernarvonshire, Wales.\r\n   9. Elizabeth Jones, b. 1819, Pwllgwichiad, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.\r\n\r\nIan'),

(6383, 'In the very early 80\\''s the Alex (upstairs) was the Llandudno gay bar. That was before the Cavern (under the Neville opened). I never went there but I have it on good authority that it was a fantastic night with some unbeleivable characters.'),

(1119, 'Hi Gareth.\r\nIm sure i remember a vernon ask your dad if he remembers the cake run to needhams old bakery i can still smell them now.\r\n                                                                    Dave'),

(13909, 'I know that you don\\''t have to own a property to make a planning application but isn\\''t there a Health & Safety issue here?  I would have thought that the building should have been secured to not only protect it from the elements but also from trespassers. Seeing an open building would encourage squatters & children alike to enter it & who would be liable if any serious accident happened.'),

(13910, '
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I know that you don\\''t have to own a property to make a planning application but isn\\''t there a Health & Safety issue here?  I would have thought that the building should have been secured to not only protect it from the elements but also from trespassers. Seeing an open building would encourage squatters & children alike to enter it & who would be liable if any serious accident happened.
\r\nYou\\''re quite right. The owner should secure the building and post warning notices of the specific dangers inside. Failure to do so could result in prosecution by the H&SE, not to mention a potential claim for liability by a person who is injured whilst on the site (whether there legally or not).\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1121, 'what about the gresham and the old pier hotel many days and nights spent in the latter.\r\nTalking of the 007 club do you remember the car they had to advertise the place'),

(10118, 'Hi Trojan I have just met your Mum and Dad at the Tabernacl Heritage Centre. Very nice people. \r\nJust to let you know as you are so far away.'),

(1132, 'I used to drink in the Pier when I worked on the Pier, nice little pub, never set foot in the Lounge though (if there was one that is) John the owner/manager used to make sure that his regulars always had a drink on the bar as soon as you walked in, you took your turn after the first one, I used to stand at the far end of the bar with a bloke (older) called Billy, he used to work in the Golden Goose, there was another man who looked after the top amusement arcade, but cant remember his name at the moment, he had a full bushy beard. God I must be getting old as I cant remember anyone\\''s name! who am I again??   :roll:'),

(1133, 'I heard that Will RI** recently passed away, can anyone confirm this? he was a good friend to me while we worked together and used to go out for a few beers (and arguments)  :oops:  He knew how to enjoy himself.'),

(1134, 'Mike i think it was richie but I cant remember his surname .\r\nRemember the roman room'),

(1135, 'Yes!! it was Ritchie.\r\n\r\nI do remember the Roman room, do you remember Mandy\\''s Triology?? Mandy is living here in Jersey, it was funny when we first come across each other, we were both looking at each other trying to remember where we knew each other from, in the end it came to me.\r\n\r\nDo you remember Jacko? used to work the pier with me and Will, plus others, I can see their faces but not their names.  :oops:'),

(1136, 'I do remember mandys trilogy and for some reason que serra serra comes to mind it was always being sung as i walked in they served the best carlsberg export in the roman room.\r\nDo you remember rhytm machine down stairs in the dolphin and beryl who ran the cafe god it hurt when she caught you scrounging grub esp her apple turnovers .'),

(6381, 'OK . extremely embarassing. Me in 1982.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Guess who?  Duh!!!'),

(6378, 'It was a cold place in the winter though. Mr Owen used to light all the Bunsen Burners to keep us warm. (After he had whacked his plastic metre ruler on his desk to stop us from talking). Remember the sports jacket he always wore, with the leather patches on the elbows?'),

(7723, 'Parky was indeed a man with a name for himself, he was killed in a flat in hospital road after a row, the person who did it also died in tragic circumstances after a huge stone meant for sea defences fell off the back of a lorry straight through his windscreen :shock:'),

(1139, 'Willy O\\''Reilley is very much alive and living in bridge road, unfortunately it was Willy Reilly who died, who used to be married to margaret who works in B&Q, he was an elvis presley fanatic. He had almost every single and every LP that Elvis Sang or produced. The Willy in this article is the one who didnt pass away obviously.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(6587, '\\''Sponsored Walks\\'' around the Marine Drive were always fun during my Loreto Middle School days. We would run ahead of the Sports teacher Dewi Miles, until we were out of his sight, then cut over the top of the Orme, before descending the zig-zag path back to the school. Afterwards Dewi would give us all commendations for completing the course in record time.'),

(13634, 'I was playing cricket in Lloyd Street Primary School when someone hit the ball into the street. I went for it & threw the ball back into the yard, but before I could go back to the yard a young woman stopped me & spoke to me for about 10 minutes. She asked my name, what I was doing etc., & I thought no more of it until the following day when the Headmaster Mr Williams read an article from a National Daily Newspaper in the morning assembly.\r\nThe woman was a very young Petula Clark & she had been walking around with a character called Lobby Lud. Apparently if anyone had a copy of this National Daily Paper & challenged Lobby Lud they would get a massive cash prize! \r\nApparently most of the teachers were readers of the paper and were a bit miffed at missing out on the cash.'),
(10996, 'If mine was a bit shorter I could play with it in church  :D'),

(10997, 'The new wind farm cabling is coming ashore at towyn.i have just planned and designed the fibre optic comunications for the new site at their new 132kv sub station at rhos fawr at towyn. this new site to take the out put from the new wind farm is just nearing completion,due to the flooding in this area all the bulidings  have been build som 6ft from ground leval.\r\n\r\n\r\nmike thomas.'),

(5015, 'The milk vender was outside the post office, we always used that one.'),

(7928, 'I remember Cwm Place being Built,Great place to play at night,I remember the horse drawn milk cart that brought the milk round.the old horse new the round so well it move along while the milkman delivered the milk. It was served from milk churns into jugs,also the shire horses that delivered from the railway station. I didnt like being sent to collect horse manure for the garden.I had a fox terrier as a child and it loved to roll in horse manure. There was a garage and kennels in Jubilee st .The owner had a large open top tourer car cream in colour and my dog Buch loved to sit in the back and be driven round town  the garage owner called him patch because he had a black patch over one eye a d also on his back.'),

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Richard, was it Tony Burton?
\r\n\r\nI remember Tony Burton, what a character, he used to walk a bit hunched on account of being a proper binman, when they used to lug cast iron bins over thier shoulders, It always amazed me how they lifted those heavy bins when they were full.
\r\n\r\nI seem to remember that Tony Burton lived in a block of flats, with some steps up to them, in Deganwy Avenue - on the other side of the road and almost opposite the slipway entrance to, what was, the Odeon Cinema and Ballroom.\r\nAt one time I think he had a paper round with W H Smiths in Mostyn Street circa 1960-ish (as I did)\r\nI recall him being an \\''eccentric\\''; and think I\\''m right in saying that his eccentricity led him to go canooing from the North Shore with a bicycle helmet on; and sadly that led to him loosing his life - when he didn\\''t return from a canooing expedition one night.  His body was found the following day or so.'),

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Hello Craig, as you did ask me to relay any Llandudno historical facts or gossip, I was wondering if I had at any time told you that my great grandfather on my mother\\''s side, paid for the first camera obscura which stood opposite the Grand Hotel.\r\n\r\nI believe it was destroyed by fire at some point, and a new one installed. My great grandfather\\''s family names were Owen(Owain) and Roberts. (Interesting that on some of those old deeds and indentures I mentioned to you, the name Roberts crops up quite a lot, though I don\\''t know if it\\''s the same Roberts).\r\n\r\nI am not sure either what his connection was with Llandudno, other than that many of my ancestors have lived there, or why he should bequeath money to pay for the camera. I can remember being taken on a walk to the camera obscura, when I was about 7, by my grandfather, and being told that his father had donated money to have it built and installed.\r\n\r\nI remember he told me the bulk of the donation was spent on the lens thing, which was made, I believe, by another relative, an Uncle, who worked in a glass factory somewhere - could have been St.Helens? I still have some of this great great uncle\\''s apprentice pieces in my home, small animals and other objects made whilst he was training there.\r\n\r\nIf you know anything about the camera, or the Roberts side of my family, I\\''d be glad to hear about it. there\\''s no-one left to ask now as all my relatives are dead.\r\n\r\nSarah
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(1588, 'Well they\\''ve been and gone- we didn\\''t find anymore Hindles, but they were very impressed with the town and how friendly the locals were ! Hopefully there should be an article in the Weekly News soon----watch this space!'),

(2615, 'Yep, underground would be astronomical.  Have you seen what Llandudno is built on?\r\n\r\nUpwards is the way to go, but even that is expensive.  When I last looked at multi story car parking over 10 years ago the cost was over £10,000 per space.  I suppose we could now double that to £20,000 or £30,000 a space.   500 cars = £15,000,000 and that would only scratch the surface of our parking problems.\r\n\r\nThe only suggestion I have that may be viable, is to put a darn great car park on land between Llandudno Junction and Colwyn Bay and operate a Park and Ride into Conwy, Llandudno and Colwyn Bay using a circular route in either direction.  However, the cost due to the general seasonal requirements may make it unprofitable and therefore it would require heavy subsidies.  Are we prepared to pay for it?\r\n\r\n.'),

(1148, 'The old ground on conwy road, I saw some great games there also used to go to see the wrestling there in the summer. Does anyone remember the military tattoo that was held there in the late 60s. Then over the field to simmons fun fair to hang out on the bobby horses and listen to the music. Would love to hear any other fond memories people may have?\r\n\r\nThanks, Dave.'),

(1149, 'Does anybody remeber Ted Roger? So called because his parents lived in a cave house behind Lime Terrace - I think that is the address. He was a fisherman and there is a memorial to him next to the jetty near the Cenotaph.'),

(1150, 'Thats an interesting one ceedoubleu, yeh Ted Yr Ogof does ring a bell strangely enough, where\\''s lime Terrace exactly? I look forward to discovering more about this Ted, I will check out his memorial when im down in a day or two.\r\n\r\nThanks, Craig.'),

(5013, 'Hi, well i think its a good thing its up and running again (was it not shut for a cpl of years) and surely this is good for Llandudno .ok so what if he is charging high prices ,dont we get ripped off when we go to London and pay £7.50 for fish and chips when we only pay £3.50 at Beckys. and £I.50 for an icecream in Betws when they are only £1.30 on the pier(!) its a fact of life tourists get ripped off wherever we go. Ican understand you getting mad Craig as you want to film for Llandudnos benefit but it doesnt bother me and im sure many other locals as we live here and never use it and if tourist want to pay - let them!'),

(1151, 'I rememeber him well he pulled my sister out from the sea she was so scared he would tell her mother she pretended to be german which was all well and good till we went to buy some fish of his barrow and he recognised her.'),

(1152, 'This Ted wasnt a gentleman who used to leave his shoes on the steps next to the jetty and would disappear off for the day fishing, only one day he never came back to collect them?\r\n\r\nCraig.'),

(10731, 'There are also Ordinance Survey Trig-Points at numerous locations. This one is a cut bench mark in the large stone near to the pavement under the Old Road sign.

(10733, '
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Does anyone remember the cozy kettle cafe at the bottom of the orme i think it was on old road?
\r\n\r\nWas it where the Number One Bistro is today?'),

(10729, '
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If your walking through St davids place on your way into town there is one hidden in the grass there it has on it E P i always remember it because as kids we all thought it was were ELVIS was buried.no joking see if you can find it. lorraine.
\r\n\r\nAlphaline mentioned that one above Lorraine. I thought Elvis was still alive?  :wink:'),

(1583, '
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Thanks SnakeCorp, yes I must be now I think about it, the whole area seems somewhat historical to me, its a part of the town I dont know that well and it would be interesting to know how it developed from early days to just a few hotels before todays more populated little estates there.\r\n\r\nI have always thought that there was more to discover there in terms of Llandudno\\''s history, given the mention of findng Roman coins there, the small cottages in the area behind Craigside, etc.\r\n\r\nAs a kid I never went near the Little Orme as advised by my parents for fear of the regularity of accidents that occurred there.  Its certainly an area to explore further.\r\nThanks, Gareth
\r\n\r\nYes, I\\''d certainly be interested in learning more about both the Craigside Hydro and Craigside Inn. The Roman coins were found directly across the road from the Craigside Inn, where the farm gate is, so can we assume that the road must date back to Roman times? I always thought it was relatively modern, with the original road being the one that goes though Bryn Y Bia but who knows?

(10726, 'I\\''m still in Jersey, Sanbo Lloyd has moved from Jersey and now lives in Spain with his wife and child'),

(10727, '
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I\\''m still in Jersey, Sanbo Lloyd has moved from Jersey and now lives in Spain with his wife and child
\r\n\r\nThat\\''s good to know, thanks Mike. Do you still have that light blue metallic Ford Capri that was always parked ouside the Savoy Cinema?'),

(1579, 'May i just add to the subject of the Prefabs,is that as quoted ,they may have been built to accomodate the overflow of the cities in the war.\r\nbut they were also used to house local families because of the housing shortage.My auntie lived in one until 1957 & i used to visit her there as a child with my mother,i always remember them having a `gas  fridge` which i thought was wonderful,also some had corrugated air raid shelters\r\nin the yard, which people used as garden sheds.\r\nMy wifes family also had a prefab up there as well.\r\nDave.'),

(10734, 'Hi Lorraine,\r\n\r\nI remember it.  Wasn\\''t there a long serving counter with stainless steel runners for you to push your tray along ?\r\n\r\nAll the catering equipment (and the separate door) were still there until Farm Foods took over although they\\''d not been used for years.'),

(1155, 'No, I\\''m sure he wasn\\''t. I can just about remember him delivering live lobsters to my grandfather\\''s hotel. I must have been about 4 years old.'),

(1577, 'No connection to Mike Griffith i\\''m afraid. Clocks often carried the name of the retailer rather than maker. \r\nThis clock was more than likely made in Birmingham or Liverpool and \\''badged\\'' in Llandudno with the shops name.'),

(1578, 'I also attended Stella Maris and the Star of the Sea, Canon Pozzi was there around the same time as Fr Quigley and Canon O\\''Donovan, I remember going there for  "Instructions" when I moved to John Brights.'),

(1157, 'Yr Ogof means of the cave doesn\\''t it ? If so --was he a descendant of Miriam yr Ogof described in Ivor Wynn Jones\\'' book?\r\nThis cave was on the Marine Drive where the garage of St Petrocks is near the West Shore and the family lived there till the Marine Drive Co rehomed them to build the present road.\r\nOne of Miriam and Isaac\\''s sons strapped seagull wings to his arms and jumped into space. Needless to say he came a cropper, but his mother nursed him back to health in the cave and he lived to be over 80 !!'),

(1159, 'This Ted wasnt a gentleman who used to leave his shoes on the steps next to the jetty and would disappear off for the day fishing, only one day he never came back to collect them?\r\n\r\nTed was a proper old boatman used to go out daily and gather lobsters from his pot`s` under the lighthouse He used to have a lock up at the back of south parade and sold his catch from there and off a barrow out side the carlton.'),

(1160, 'Ted Roger (Rugger) was a fisherman yes, owned his own boat, I used to help in my days, I also recall him doing boat trips at one time. I remember Mike Shields having some connection with him.\r\n\r\nMany Thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1161, 'Wasnt it his son johny that took over from him along with jimmy limacher.\r\nShieldsy did used to work for ted he was running his pleasure boat i cant recall its name remember going out on the conwy maid with ted .'),

(10632, '
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It\\''s Friday, the end of the week. Trinity Church bells are a peeling and the town looks so appealing.\r\nWhere did you go for a night out? Did you stay in your local, or start there and \\''crawl\\'' up town before taking a taxi to one of the numerous nightclubs in the area. \r\nWinter\\''s, Paynes, Caesar\\''s Palace, The Old Hall?\r\nWho remembers Dixieland on Colwyn Bay pier, or Flight Level Zero in the town centre? Maybe a coach trip to the Octagon in Bangor or an Ian Turner disco in the Wash.\r\nShare your memories, escapades and crazy nights on the town here!
\r\nWhere was Caesar\\''s Palace then? The Old Hall was an odd place, it went from being the \\''in place\\'' at one time to being as quiet as the grave (a state it maintains to the present day).

(10633, 'SC, I think Caesar\\''s Palace was on Llandudno Pier although I never went there myself.\r\n\r\nAs soon as I hear the name Caesar\\''s Palace, I think of the Roman Room so where was that anyone or am I dreaming again?\r\n\r\nPersonally, after Teen Beat in Winters and then Paynes, I seem to move on to the Olde Hall in the early seventies and it was certainly very popular in those days. '),

(1164, 'Ah peeps, had a rather refreshing day out today, me and my girlfriend went around the Orme for a Walk, blimey it was windy! I dont know if anyone else has experienced the gale force winds!!! Stopped at the o and Be o Cafe, very friendly service by the two ladies inside who served us with a lovely hot choc with cream and marshmallows, cheese & ham sandwich and a scone with cream and jam, we then went on to enjoy the decent to West Shore where the wind was on our backs going down, finally we could catch our breath. Anyone else been out and about lately?

(1165, 'Been out and about most days, but are very limited at the moment as the dog has damaged both her knees on her hind legs, but we have been taking her in the car to the West shore for a little hobble on the grass. (Before anyone makes a comment YES we always \\''pick up\\'' with our plastic nappy sacks !)Yesterday was something else with that wind, we arrived home with sand in our mouths, eyes and ears. Sunday we went to Rhos-on -Sea and the sea was spectacular, right over the prom.'),

(10615, 'yep thats me mate  :wink:  but i remember last time you came down with ya mate from states singing at the top of ya head in the X keys or you gonna blame the beer  :D hope your singing all the welsh songs over there T you could try and rap MYFANWY  :lol:  :lol:'),

(1167, 'We went to the RSPB Centre at Junction on Sunday a great time until we went into a Hyde and looked out of the window to see a blizzard approaching. Decided to head back to the car [mistake] got absolutely soaked in 3 mins.\r\n\r\nWent to Home Front Exhibition in New Road [street] behind the Museum in the afternoon. If you have not been please go, very good.\r\n\r\nJacket is still damp.\r\n\r\nHappy Birthday Craig'),

(1168, 'Found a relic? then dont keep it hidden on the mantlepiece, theres loads of hidden reminants of bygone Llandudno out there which we pass everyday, many of us oblivious to it even being there sometimes. You can be suprised if you just take a walk sometimes, without rushing and paying attention to some of the finer details around the town.\r\n\r\nI would like to dedicate this post as a special place to share \\''hidden llandudno\\''. If you are out and about on your walks and happen to spot something nostalgic, oldy worldy, different, unique, forgotten, then share it with fellow Llandudno Enthusiasts here. Be it the spark of an old memory, or perhaps even a snap with your digital camera, so come on, get out and find these hidden treasures.\r\n\r\nI will be sharing some of my finds with you over the coming weeks/months as I get out and about the town to find these relics. Feel free to share yours! :)\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Happy Birthday Craig
\r\n\r\nThanks for that Gerry! think i\\''ll be going out for a meal to the Jasmine House tonight, maybe for a few drinks after. Nice to see you visited the Homefront Experience, yes I had my first visit there last year which I thoroughly enjoyed.

(1170, 'Here is an c1850\\''s well which once flowed from a gentlemans back garden on Old Road (next to the tram tracks) a couple of hundred yards up from the first Tram Station.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2011, 09:02:03 AM »
(1546, 'I have sought further information from a gent who is a local watch/clock repairer... his response as follows...\r\n\r\n\\''Looks like Fusee dial clock typical design c.1890. Name on dial is probably the retailer rather than the maker, Mike.\\''\r\n\r\nCheers for that Mike.'),

(1171, 'Popped out of work this morning to grab a few shots of the high tide. Here\\''s one:
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(1172, 'Sorry to dig this one up..\r\n\r\nBut the house prices in Llandudno, seem to be on a similar scale to this area.\r\n\r\nWe bought our council house in 2001, for 17,000 (discount from council) sold it 18 months later for £35,000. Bought another house in Holyhead for £48,000, sold that 18 months later for £75,000, in July 2006 we bought this house (outside holyhead) for £87,000, we are now sitting on about £125,000.\r\n\r\nBack in 1990 or 91, me and my ex (dont go there) looked at a flat in Llandudno, just off gloddaeth street. 1 bedroom second floor, going for £45,000 :shock:'),

(1173, 'Great Pic-- actually watched it come over the prom, over the wall and into the flower bed next to the road ! Some tide!'),

(1179, '
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Yes, it certainly is Robyn especially if you mean this one.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.davidrobertsshoes.com/\r\n\r\nMr Andrew Roberts entered his father\\''s business (David Roberts Ltd.) straight from school around 40 years ago and he informed me last Saturday evening, he has no intention of retiring for some time yet !!
\r\n\r\nFound this advert for David Roberts Shoes dated 1966.\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(10809, 'Geospatial engineering and topographic surveys have traditionally used Ordinance Survey Benchmarks (BM\\''s) as reference points for establishing ground heights. There are three classes of these; First-Order marks of high accuracy usually anchored to solid rock and securelly protected (Fundamental Benchmarks FBM\\''s). Second-Order marks established on stable structures and the more familiar Third-Order marks cut into walls and houses.'),

(10810, 'WRONG, for any third exit on approaching a roundabout you should approach your entrance by moving to the right hand side of your lane and then moving into the centre of the roundabout, indicating left after the second exit, its the \\''twelve oclock rule\\''. You wouldnt go into the left lane at the links on approach and stay on the outside to go toward Craig-y-Don, this is also a 3rd exit. The rule is there in the HIGHWAY CODE and is clearly shown with diagrams.'),

(1185, 'I paid a visit to the Llandudno Heritage Trust today at the Tabernacl and went on the \\''Brough Guide to Llandudno\\'' Tour. Anyone who has not paid the new Heritage Centre a visit yet or gone on one of their walks, can I just say they are superb. Judy who conducts the tours is very informative and gives the opportunity for groups to discuss, contribute and ask questions throughout. After going on the walk it truly opened my eyes to what I constantly refer to as \\''hidden Llandudno\\'' and discovered many new facts and tales along the way.

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The Historical Society is of the feeling that there is room for such a theatre in Llandudno in competition with Venue Cymru. I wonder personally if this is just romantic reminiscences taking over from reality. What with modern fire regulations and a changing market, I wonder whether Llandudno\\''s albeit masterpiece of Victorian theatre design, really could stand on it\\''s own against modern alternatives.
\r\n\r\nPerhaps we need to harness the power of positive thinking a little more? A  Charitable Trust would be able to apply for the funding needed to restore the theatre and I\\''m pretty sure it would be approved. I\\''m sure there would be plenty of volunteers to assist with the running of it once it was up and running, just as there are at Venue Cymru now.\r\n\r\nTo my mind, the Grand could become a complementary theatre to Venue Cymru. It could provide a permanent home for the Llandudno Musical Players, who, at present, constantly have to struggle to raise the cash to put on their summer shows at Venue Cymru. Combined with this, I\\''d like to see a whole range of eclectic shows put on, featuring acts who couldn\\''t draw a large enough crowd to justify hiring Venue Cymru, such as up and coming bands, comedians, plays etc etc.\r\n\r\nGood set of pics, Craig, btw!\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1190, 'Great Orme, Marine Drive Landslip, (about 1991)
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 Michael Orme'),

(1191, 'Yeah, that happened during the floods didnt it?  I read somewhere that there were 14 in total around the orme that weekend'),

(1192, 'Hi everyone,\r\n\r\nI remember seeing a B&W film that had Llandudno in it. I can\\''t remember the name of it, looked about 1930\\''s or maybe even 1940\\''s. It was on the TV about three years ago as an afternoon film. There was a scene where a couple are at the top of Blackpool tower and the lady points into the distance and says what\\''s that over there. The man looks and says it\\''s The Great Orme at Llandudno. He takes her there the next day and they go to the summit on the funicular railway. If I have time over the weekend I\\''ll do some research and try and find it.'),

(1193, 'the film in question is hindle wakes i to seen on tv remake of the original,\r\ngrand hotel also features in it,bergerac boss was in it not sure of his name :cry:\r\n                 regards gazza'),

(1194, 'oops, sorry folks micheal medwin is his name eddie shoestrings boss :oops:'),

(10617, 'Just to put the record straight....my comments and those of a growing number of others should NOT be classed as negative...quite the opposite. There is an urgent need to iron out some rather major problems associated with the service IF it is to survive.\r\nMy fear is that IF these issues aren\\''t resolved Tudno\\''s days could be numbered.\r\nTake it from someone who KNOWS ALL the ins and outs on this. There are still MAJOR issues that need sorting. I raised it on this website because of the obvious love members have for Llandudno and the community.\r\nAndy Harris knows the score....he\\''s one of the station\\''s success stories... so don\\''t let him down.\r\n\r\n\r\nSometimes we ( North Walians ) take time to " spring into action " and take ownership with the sole aim of getting things sorted for the good of the town and surrounding district.\r\n\r\nTime for me to take a back seat now and leave it to you guys....\r\nbut be warned...the clock\\''s ticking and without  changes this venture could fold. People are very quick to complain after the event...it\\''s about being pro-active as opposed to re-active !\r\n\r\nKind regards to all\r\nLlechy'),

(1196, 'Hi everyone,\r\n\r\nYes that\\''s the film. Hindle Wakes starring Leslie Dwyer made in 1952. I wonder if Craig can find a copy and put the clip on the site.'),

(1200, 'Yes his son Jonny took over, he used to run the pleasure boats on the prom, I also have a name coming to me Davie Knokes, does that ring a bell? I will see Mike Shields sometime and see if he can shed any light on that.\r\n\r\nThanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Who remembers... \\''Mr Llandudno\\'' known as Tony Boyle I think, playing his \\''gay\\'' organ tunes on the Pier in front of crowds of retired folk, he also had a stand where he sold his recordings on tape. Unfortunately Tony Boyle died some few year back now. Just thought id throw that one in, so keep them coming. What local characters do you remember?!?\r\n\r\nThe Editor, Craig Ollerton\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts
\r\n\r\nTony Boyle, is very much alive I am sure of it, and I thought it was Alex Munro who was "Mr Llandudno".  Sorry for my first post being a correction.'),

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there was also a music shop that sold records in what is now mostyn art gallery but i can\\''t remember the name of it.
\r\n\r\nThat was a massive music shop, it had been going years and later moved to the top of mostyn street for a short while if I am right. The name is bugging me, it was real old fash. Seem to remember it was a family name.');

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Tony Boyle, is very much alive I am sure of it, and I thought it was Alex Munro who was "Mr Llandudno".  Sorry for my first post being a correction.
\r\n\r\nHmmm you\\''ve got my brain thinking now, Tony was quite an old chap i\\''m sure I read something about him passing away a few year back in the North Wales Weekly, the last time I saw him I was 10! thats going back to... 1996/7. Well he aint playing his organ anymore, im gonna do a bit of asking around. If anyone else knows anything, drop a line.\r\n\r\nThanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Hmmm you\\''ve got my brain thinking now, Tony was quite an old chap i\\''m sure I read something about him passing away a few year back in the North Wales Weekly, the last time I saw him I was 10! thats going back to... 1996/7. Well he aint playing his organ anymore, im gonna do a bit of asking around. If anyone else knows anything, drop a line.\r\n\r\nThanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\n He is getting on now, but still looks the same.'),

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Does anyone remember the old Wrights Cafe which was situated in Back Madoc Street. It was very popular with Truckers & Builders and locals because they offered good food at great value. Does anyone remember going in for a good old traditional full english breakfast. Can you still smell the food, or if you were in need of a tradesman you could always find one in here! Where did you go for your brekky?
\r\n\r\nI have a photo of the cafe, I shall have to scan some photos at the weekend and put them up here for you to see.'),

(1209, 'Well it was alot cleaner back then I bet. I saw some friends off on a train last year, and I cant say the comments they made. There has been a bit of improvements going on lately, but the whole station needs an overhaul.'),

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Does anyone remember a plane which crashed on Llandudno Beach, it tried to land due to engine troubles, however it crashed because of the soft sand.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nNope, but I do remember an RAF helicopter crash on the site of the old dump, I must have been about 10 ish, makes it about 1972 ish'),

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Yes it was on Builders St West, I don\\''t recollect a fleet of volvo articulated lorries, just the one. It went bust because Charles Payne pulled his money out, and the company couldnt cope without his support, he hit some trouble elsewhere not sure what or where, so he had to withdraw from the company which went bust later. The manager of Hi Hat was called Frank Carnell. I\\''ll try get a picture up later sometime of one the vans. It went on to become Bathers Bakery, which I was lucky enough to have a look round when I was younger. Now it is a self-storage lockup.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\nYou forgot Thayers Ice Cream were there inbetween HiHat and Bathers, I worked at the factory then, best years of my life. My uncle worked at the old HiHat, I remember going there and getting free choc ices.'),

(1212, 'Was it Wagstaffs?'),

(1213, 'I\\''m fairly certain that it was Wagstaffs, I rememeber that they sold sheet music but I can\\''t recall them selling records.'),

(1215, 'they only sold a few records  .i remember my father buying me a mungo jerry album on the grounds that he\\''d heard of them -i was 11 and hadn\\''t ! great birthday present !!'),

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Was it Wagstaffs?
\r\n\r\nAh yes, but I had in mind "Rushworths" maybe Rushworths was the shop that was at the top of town for a while?'),

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Well it was alot cleaner back then I bet. I saw some friends off on a train last year, and I cant say the comments they made. There has been a bit of improvements going on lately, but the whole station needs an overhaul.
\r\n\r\nThere\\''s a scheme been in the pipeline for a few years now, whereby the station will be renovated/revamped into a Transport Interchange, with buses, coaches, taxis etc all meeting there. The sale of the Coach Park on Mostyn Broadway was supposed to help pay for it. Sadly, there\\''s been some sort of problem with the grant that was supposed to pay the o of the costs, so it hasn\\''t happened yet. Being fair, Arriva have made some improvements to the station but it really does need substantial work to bring it up to standard.

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i remember not being allowed to go in there -i also remember the juke box in the back of the arcade where the hard kids hung out. i\\''m sure some of the machines were taken to an arcade in rhyl also owned by the company that bought robins
\r\n\r\nWow I remember that jukebox, you are also right about the hard kids...lol\r\nI also remember my favourite game machine, driving a toy beach buggy over a rolling road, the place was littered with penny arcade machines, the upright type where you shoot ball-bearings around a spiral frame etc, now you only see them in the victorian extravaganza. Also remember the Space Invaders machine there.'),

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Does anybody remember the "Round the World" railway type thing that was in place some years ago? I just want to say that it wasn\\''t me that moved the Eskimo to the Desert and the Camel to New York.
\r\n\r\nI loved going on those old cars, but it always broke down half way through. I remember sitting there waiting for someone to come and show us the way through the dark all the time. Old miniature model T fords etc.'),

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Found this old photo of Llandudno Swifts with Neville Southall when he didnt play in goal, about 1974-1975\You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Looks like one of those collectable football cards we used to get from Fitton\\''s which came with some bubble-gum in the packet.  :wink: That has to be Neville back row on the left.'),

(1272, 'Not exactly a business advert but an advert for the town (early 80\\''s).
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It was on my wall when I moved to London.'),

(1226, 'There is a seat dedicated to a Gubay, will have to go up and look which one it is somewhere in the Haulfre Gardens.'),

(1227, 'the bench is right at the far end just before the gate leading to invalids walk.i think it is dedicated to one of robin gubay\\''s brothers but i can\\''t remember which one -even though i only walked past it on sunday!'),

(1228, 'I remember that, it was a light aircraft. I was on holiday in Llandudno three times between 1976-1985 and I recall going to the papershop with my dad and seeing the plane and a large group of people on the beach. It\\''s a bit fuzzy but I\\''d guess that it was very late 70\\''s to early 80\\''s.'),

(1229, 'Yeah, Rushworths rings a bell, I played in the N. Wales Youth Orchestra. Gwynedd Youth Orchestra, Brass Band and Windband. As you can imagine we had a few people that knew these places. I don\\''t remember Rushworths during my time but the name is very familiar.'),

(1230, 'As promised...This one is  a promo shot of Alex\\''s Startime \\''75
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Long time ago'),

(1232, 'There\\''s some excellent Llandudno footage here - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Out, Llandudno! and Cabin Lift are very good  :D'),

(1233, 'In the 70\\''s I was a member of the town band. We used to play 6 nights a week on the bandstand during the summer. Any old members out there?\r\n\r\nHere\\''s a pic from 1977 by the cenotaph. The Queen was about to arrive (part of the Silver Jubilee stuff). The conductor at the time (in the blue jacket) was Bill Jones.
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I think you can see 3 generations of the George Brookes family. Senior is 2 to the left of Bill, Middle is front row 2nd from right and George junior has his head popping up right again and behind. To the right of Bill is middle Georges daughter.'),

(1234, 'And this one\\''s from the Happy Valley \\''77\
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God knows who wrote the copy. "Souvenir Jubilee Wales"?!?!?!'),

(6649, 'I remember always looking at the bikes there, I seem to remember it was called something else at one time, not sure. It was in the back street. Brookes street. Any memories?'),

(1236, 'Anna - Marie was, up until last year, doing a show a few times a week with David Baily (was it?) but all of a sudden the show wasn\\''t there any more. Anyone know what happened? It was very popular with coaches queuing up to collect people at the end.'),

(6648, 'Its where all the action takes place, the various characters who drive us all around, whether its the shopping or the drunken ride home. The fights all happen there. I remember the mad rush for cabs to get to the old hall at the end of the night.'),

(1239, 'My uncle and Cousin were in the town band for years.'),
(1240, 'Who were they? I may have known them.'),
(1241, 'The Ridler\\''s'),

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I remember well the shops in Ffordd Las on the Tre Creuddyn estate. Living in Maes-du-Road at the time, my grandmother regulary sent me \\''around the corner\\'' for 20 Embassy red\\''s. She used to collect the cigarette coupons then obtain gifts for myself, sister and cousins. Les Fitton was a nice gentleman and I do remember Mrs Bronson with her \\''fag\\'' in her mouth. Vernon\\''s butcher\\''s made the best pies and homemade sausages in town. Two characters that hung around the shops were Mervyn Morgan and Linda Green.
\r\n\r\nYep I steered away from naming Linda Green...lol ;-)'),

(4496, '● I think she may also have taken part on the Normandy landings in June 1944.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),

(1244, 'Great photo, my dad and sister are either side of Taid Brookes! John & Julie Edwards'),

(1267, 'Rushworths was in Vaughan Street, think it was in the old Wagstaffs shop'),

(1270, 'where was the blubell cafe? cant place it at all'),

(1271, 'Yes raj, it was Josie. Well done. \r\nGod, she was funny. But woe betide you if you were too rowdy. \r\nIs she still with us? It would be nice if she could know how well and fondly she is remembered.'),

(1246, 'hi, Jimmy was my late father-in-law, yes he worked for Teds son John yr Ogof doing the pleasure trips and selling fish, John often brought crabs and fish to my husbands grandmothers house - he would open the front door, throw in a  sack of crabs into the kitchen and shout "there you go Mary"!. Also Davy Noakes was a postman up till a few years ago.'),

(1247, 'hi, seem to think the helicopter that came down by the dump was due to more of engine failure than a crash as there was military guarding overnight till they could get it moved the next day.'),

(1248, 'Yes l remember the military tattoo, picked up a few blank cartridges after!! wasnt it the Royal Marines? seem to think i remember them there.'),

(1249, 'a RAF helicopter once had to make an emergency landing on the summit car park and was there for two or three days while technicians from valley fixed it . it was quite an attraction and i\\''m sure some of the tourists thought it was some sort of annual event or they were doing pleasure flights!'),

(1250, 'Hi all, racking our brains here, can anyone remember the name of the Chinese Restaurant in Lloyd Street where the Ham Bone is now, its on the tip of our tongues but just cannot put a name to it. Anymore memories of old eateries?'),

(1251, 'Before DC Chuckwagon?'),

(1252, 'Cant remember the name, but I knew the two brothers who\\''s parents owned it, Dave and Ste Ho.\r\nGone but not forgotten\r\n\r\nBest Chinese - The one in that used to be in Moston Street next to Williams Typewriters - Leun Hong\r\n\r\nBest Chippy - Greasy Lils down the side of the youth center, best and biggest bag of chips.\r\n\r\nBreakfasts - The cafe under the Neville or Billy Wrights'),

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hi, seem to think the helicopter that came down by the dump was due to more of engine failure than a crash as there was military guarding overnight till they could get it moved the next day.
\r\n\r\nIt was there for more than a day, it was a week or so, the airmen used to have little bonfires and us kids from Hosipital road would be there morning, noon and night. One kid Neal Curbishly got hit by a taxi running across the road to get to the dump....'),

(1254, 'We were on the West Shore so it must have been a warm day, we could see the smoke as we were walking over the bridge and lots of people were standing on the bridge watching, everybody thought it was the scrap metal yard that was on fire.'),

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Rediffusion was previously Brown\\''s and the records were upstairs. Brown later bought the West Shore Lido and, as far as I remember, ran it until its very sad demolition. He employed us schoolkids in the summer - I think I\\''m right - at a shilling an hour. No fortunes made there then but a tremendous job with miriad perks.\r\n\r\nHeddwch.\r\n\r\nMike.
\r\nA very pleasant lady walked into my office today on vacation from Florida. \r\n\r\nAfter a while, I established she was Jackie Brown, the daughter of the late Arthur Brown.\r\n\r\nApparently, Mr Arthur Brown died in 1974 and his widow only 11 years ago.'),

(1256, 'Must agree about the Leun Hong. I loved it.\r\nSome memories. \r\nAround 1979 me and my 6th form mates went for a meal there. The height of sophistication then was a bottle of Mateus Rose. I\\''ll never forget the meal. I ordered Salmon Curry with Fried Rice. As if that wasn\\''t bad enough, when it arrived the rice was on its own plate. Fine. The curry was in it\\''s own seperate bowl. Fine. The salmon was, however, a solid upturned can of John West in a lake of curry sauce. I mashed it up and loved it.\r\nWhat was the main waitresses name? She used to tell me how she gave her husband a heart condition chasing him around the bedroom.\r\nOn a sadder note there was a waitress called Shirley who was with me in the Llandudno Operatic Society. She was also, due to being under 16 at the time, in the childrens ward at Llandudno hospital having her appendix out when I was visiting my mate. I caused her stitches to be re-stitched through making her laugh.\r\nEvery time I went to the Leun Hong she would have to retreat into the kitchen in fits of laughter.\r\nShirley sadly passed away a few years ago. Far too young. \r\nI\\''ll never forget her laugh.'),

(1257, 'Yeah, I know them all. \r\n\r\nSuepp, say hello to your Dad and Julie from David Edwards (no relation) that played baritone next to Walter Shaw and then Eb Bass (1976 - 78 ish).\r\n\r\nwesh1. I sat next to John Ridler playing Eb Bass for a couple of years. Please pass on good wishes from David Edwards.'),

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Must agree about the Leun Hong. I loved it.\r\nSome memories. \r\nAround 1979 me and my 6th form mates went for a meal there. The height of sophistication then was a bottle of Mateus Rose. I\\''ll never forget the meal. I ordered Salmon Curry with Fried Rice. As if that wasn\\''t bad enough, when it arrived the rice was on its own plate. Fine. The curry was in it\\''s own seperate bowl. Fine. The salmon was, however, a solid upturned can of John West in a lake of curry sauce. I mashed it up and loved it.\r\nWhat was the main waitresses name? She used to tell me how she gave her husband a heart condition chasing him around the bedroom.\r\nOn a sadder note there was a waitress called Shirley who was with me in the Llandudno Operatic Society. She was also, due to being under 16 at the time, in the childrens ward at Llandudno hospital having her appendix out when I was visiting my mate. I caused her stitches to be re-stitched through making her laugh.\r\nEvery time I went to the Leun Hong she would have to retreat into the kitchen in fits of laughter.\r\nShirley sadly passed away a few years ago. Far too young. \r\nI\\''ll never forget her laugh.
\r\n\r\nWas it Shirley Vale?\r\nMy mum worked in the Leun Hong for years.'),
(1260, 'I used to love the Businessman’s Lunch at Leun Hung.\r\n\r\nFor £5 each, one would usually be offered a choice of fruit juice or soup of the day followed by a main course choice of around four dishes and finally a choice of sweet, which was usually either vanilla ice cream with a wafer biscuit or an ice cream fritter.\r\n\r\nTea or coffee was usually extra.\r\n\r\nThe owner Mr Wan always seemed to spend all his time fixed behind his counter and never seemed to move away from that position.\r\n\r\nThere always seemed to be the same two waitresses working there for many years.'),

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Hi welsh1. Yes it was Shirley Vale. Was that your mum?
\r\n\r\nNo she wasnt my mum, just a good friend of the family.'),

(1269, 'i bet the waitress whose name you can\\''t recall was josie she was brilliant and kept everyone in order! some friday nights it was like the school canteen in there but nobody really misbehaved  there was always the chance josie would tell your mum'),

(1262, 'Yes Leun Hong was the best but Lloyd Street did a mean chicken fried rice takeaway (Bri, it was long before DC C huckwagon we are talking just over 30 years ago!!) How about some more - anyone remember BLUEBELL cafe (great jukbox), the BOZ - wasnt that a cool place to go!(my 1st ever cheese and ham toastie!) bottom FORTES (learning to smoke with mates in the school dinnerhour) SO regret that now, top FORTES (those dreary sunday afternoons) Taj Mahal (ran out of there without paying once - well they did keep us 20 mins waiting for the bill!(never went past the place for years after someone told us the staff never forget a face!) oh dear better shut up now hope my kids dont see this or my mum and dad !!'),

(1263, 'Hi welsh1. Yes it was Shirley Vale. Was that your mum?'),

(1264, 'Hi NORTHWALESCPL,\r\n\r\nWas the Taj Mahal the one upstairs diagonally opposite the Carlton? If so, a friend of mine not only ran out of there without paying but also nicked the plates!!! Two waiters chased him all the way through town until he gave himself up at the police station. Ha ha ha. Not exactly a career criminal.'),

(1265, 'Fine. The salmon was, however, a solid upturned can of John West in a lake of curry sauce. I mashed it up and loved it. \r\n\r\n^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\r\nI feel sick !\r\n\r\nAnyone remember the cashier lady at the Embassy Restaurant, ?she was somewhat large and used to sit in a box like thing, our daughter was about 5 or 6 at the time and she is 41 now, so I am going back some ! We always wondered how she got in and out of this box affair !'),

(1273, 'haven\\''t seen her for years but will ask around .i\\''m sure there are plenty of folks who know her'),

(1274, 'Hello everyone! Thank you to all those who have said kind things about me and my family - I am always thrilled that people still remember my father, Alex Munro, with such fond memories - he was indeed quite a character in Llandudno! I would be delighted to answer any questions that I can if anyone has any and I am going to sort out some photos etc to put on the site.  - Thanks for the photo of me in the pantomime - I may have changed slightly now (!) - will try and upload a recent photo on to the site too.'),

(1275, 'My favourite restaurant was also the Leun Hong, but the very first "Chinese" I ever had was on the corner by the traffic lights next to Billy Macs, I can\\''t remember the name.\r\n\r\nThe Taj Mahal was in Chapel Street upstairs next to Gardners Chippy. Where Romeo\\''s is now, Matues Rose was the height of sophistication - after Blue Nun of course!\r\n\r\nThe best Chippy was West Shore where you would take your own Pyrex bowl to be filled up with chips! I think the owner was a Mr Redhead\r\n\r\nGreasy Lil\\''s was great - "Do you want salt and Vaniger?"\r\n\r\nThe Coffee centre, was good value with a bowl of chips for 12p and a salad roll consisted of one slice of everything - one slice of egg, one slice of cucumber, one slice of tomato and the Iced coffee was superb'),

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 The Taj Mahal was in Chapel Street upstairs next to Gardners Chippy. Where Romeo\\''s is now, Matues Rose was the height of sophistication - after Blue Nun of course!\r\n\r\nSorry suepp, I think you may mean Casanovas in Chapel Street.  :oops: \r\n
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  Was the Taj Mahal the one upstairs diagonally opposite the Carlton?
\r\nWasn\\''t the Chinese above Hoosons called something like the Great Wall? :) '),

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The Coffee centre, was good value with a bowl of chips for 12p
\r\n\r\nAnd I used to think 60p was good for a bag of chips back in the early 90\\''s??? Being only 10 at the time and with very little pocket money I was forever in the golden goose scouring for dropped coins from the pushers until i had enough, I\\''d go to ether tribells or the one opposite the train station with a stack of two penny pieces :D'),

(1280, 'Could have sworn it was Romeo\\''s! :roll:'),

(1281, 'It is a great privalege for Llandudno Enthusiasts to introduce our newest forum member Anna-Marie Munro. I\\''ve de-briefed her on the forum operations, and told her many nice things about the gang here at OLLE! So lets give her a big warm OLLE welcome! She\\''s open to questions and would also love to hear any fond memories we could share with her.\r\n\r\nMany thanks,\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Could have sworn it was Romeo\\''s! :roll:
\r\n If I am not mistaken Romeo\\''s is above Sargents Radio in Lloyd Street.\r\n\r\nP.S. - Sue, does one of your sisters still work as a dental receptionist?'),

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Please pass on good wishes from David Edwards.
\r\nEgg, are you originally from Pen and did you go to John Bright\\''s in the early sixties? :) '),

(1285, 'HI,the Bluebell cafe was at the back where whetherspoons is now,it was also known as "Dirty Micks"! Josie is alive and kicking (like she used to be in LEUN HONG )and living in Kings Road. The Taj Mahal used to be where Casanovas is now.'),

(1286, 'thanks for the info  glad to hear josie is well. dare we ask why the cafe was aka dirty micks or is it something we\\''re best not knowing?'),

(6582, 'The 5th of November was always a special time growing up in Llandudno. Before the days of the officiated bonfire and firework display on the West Shore, each neighbourhood in the town had it\\''s own bonfire. Our\\''s was on Maes-du-field at the Gwydyr Road end, and in the weeks before the 5th, me and my friends would go around the local houses asking for anything that we could put on our bonfire. We would also go along to the dump as there was always plenty of materials there to throw on.\r\nIn the days leading up to Guy Fawkes night, we would infiltrate different neighbourhoods with the intention of burning down our rival\\''s bonfires before the 5th. One year, we were successful in burning the bonfire at the back of Lon Gwalia in the \\''ditch\\'', the one on the North Shore near the paddling pool, and the one on the playing fields at the back of Kings Ave, before getting chased by the Kings Road Mob.\r\nAlso in the weeks leading up to the big event, we would make a \\''Guy\\'' by stuffing newspaper inside an old jumper and some old trousers, for the body, then carving out a turnip for the head. We then would place the \\''Guy\\'' inside an old pram, and go house to house asking "Penny for the Guy".\r\nFireworks were extremely popular around that time of year, with packets of \\''Bangers\\'' the most sought after. There were also \\''Catherine Wheels\\'' which we used to nail to a wooden fence, and \\''Roman Candles\\'' which we used to place in the ground. \\''Standard Fireworks\\'' were always the best, and were always featured on television adverts - "A night to remember, the 5th of November, so light up the sky with Standard Fireworks".'),

(1288, 'Hi Anna-Marie,\r\n\r\nA very warm welcome to the forums! As you can see, your Father and his shows have been a topic of some considerable interest here! \r\n\r\nI\\''d be interested in learning about what your memories are of the Pier Pavilion and perhaps you could tell us a bit about how/when your father\\''s shows there/at the Happy Valley came to an end?\r\n\r\nMany thanks,\r\nDave'),

(1289, 'Bri my sister is a dental nurse in Llandudno'),

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Bri my sister is a dental nurse in Llandudno
\r\n\r\nIt\\''s a small world isnt it! everyone knows everyone in this forum (chuckles)  :lol:'),

(1291, 'bri roberts no, a bit younger than that. Aberconwy in the 70s.'),

(1292, 'Talking of Dental - anyone remember Zowie Lewis?'),

(1293, 'Gosh, so much to talk about.\r\n\r\nWhat was the dancing school that supplied the dancers for the panto?\r\nWas it George and Hilda?\r\n\r\nI\\''ve got some photos you may like from the pantos.\r\n\r\nLet me know.\r\n\r\nDavid'),

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Talking of Dental - anyone remember Zowie Lewis?
\r\n\r\nI was at her wedding a couple of years ago.'),

(5766, 'Yum, I\\''m enjoying these recipes!\r\n\r\nHow about tripe - it is back in fashion!  I love it very occasionally on its own with plenty of vinegar and bread and butter.  Husband and son look on disgustedly, but it\\''s lovely.  High in protein and low in fat according to Gordon Ramsey!\r\n\r\nPigs trotters too, were a speciality, at one time.  Great to have a chew on one now and again!  How about welsh rarebit with black pudding.  My dad used to enjoy it.  Couldn\\''t beat a bit of bread and dripping though in years gone by.  Anyone remember a sarnie being called a `piecy\\''?\r\n\r\nLinda'),

(11190, 'Hi Gerald u r right,but that means crossing road from currys to b and Q then walk to the end of Tudor Cresent then walk back along Broadway. Not many people do that,nature of the beast im afraid'),

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I would like to ask the ex locals, why they left? was it work? business? love? on the run from the law? I myself used to say I would never leave here, but as years have gone by, I have found more reasons for me to want to leave, that is, after my kids have all grown up, but I would certainly keep returning.
\r\n\r\n"I refuse to answer on the grounds I may incriminate myself"'),

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Rosa\r\nYou make a good point which is why we still need a solution. When i walk down town in llandudno and its the same every where i hate having to walk through a cloud of smoke it makes me cough and my eyes water plus that brief contact gets in your hair and your clothes. Why should i as a none smoker have to put up with this why should anyone?\r\nSarah
\r\n\r\nYou two must spend an awful lot of time walking past pub doorways!  :lol: I\\''ve never found it a problem, the pavements are usually wide enough so that I can keep out of the smokers\\'' way.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1298, 'Yes there is so much to talk about and hello to Gary and David on lights!!\r\nWith regards to the Dancing School - it was The Hilda King School of Dancing that my dad used for dancers in his shows/pantomimes.  As I recall they had a dancing school somewhere behind the back of the Cottage Loaf in town and I seem to remember it was upstairs?? \r\nI was personally sent to the Janet Eccleston School of Dance on Trinity Avenue as it was thought to be a more \\''serious\\'' dancing school and as my mother, Marie Munro nee Brady was a professional dancer and choreographer - I needed to be doing all the right RAD exams etc whereas Hilda King and good old "Uncle George" were purely in it for Show Business! Special memories of Andrew Farrell and Deborah Emery of the Hilda King School of dance in a production of Babes in the Wood Pantomime production!'),
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2011, 09:04:42 AM »
(1300, 'Hi David\r\n\r\nYes - would be lovely to catch up sometime!  X\r\n\r\nWith regards to the questions about the Pier Pavillion etc - I am going to delve into the archives of all Dads old programmes and posters etc and find exact start/finish dates etc.  I was quite young at the time but certainly do remember lots about it - one thing being the walk between the Pier Pavillion theatre and the Pier Head Theatre when Dad used to put on two different shows a night - a variety show at the Pavillion and also the Pier Head Orchestra with John Morava (I think) and Melville Cooper (violin?) and when we ran short of change or anything similar, I had to "run" between the two!\r\n\r\nThe Happy Valley finished its last summer season in 1985. In October of the same year we found out my dad had cancer and he was initially only given 3 weeks to live but managed to keep going til January 1986 when he sadly passed away.  The Happy Valley theatre never re-opened again.\r\n\r\nMany people have suggested that it would be appropriate for there to be at least a plaque of some sort to commemorate him in the town - something my mother always hoped would happen but she passed away in 1997 without there being anything for him - I have always felt that it would indeed be a lovely tribute but feel unable to approach anyone myself with regard to this matter - I always thought that it should come from another source rather than his family and an awful long time has passed now! I am just pleased that so many people stop me when they meet me and tell me they still remember him and what a great character he was!'),
(1301, 'Hi Anna-Marie,\r\n\r\nI most certainly agree about a commemoration for your great father, as I know do many others on this site. I will contact the site owner to get my email address to you and we can discuss it.\r\n\r\nDavid'),
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Hi all, racking our brains here, can anyone remember the name of the Chinese Restaurant in Lloyd Street where the Ham Bone is now, its on the tip of our tongues but just cannot put a name to it.   
\r\nMy research has come with the Hong Shing !!'),
(1303, 'HI, Bri that name doesnt ring a bell are u sure? thanks anyway. Raj - one of the locals made the name up as a joke and it just stuck , no reflection on the name or the owner'),
(1304, 'WHOOPS i meant to say no reflection on the cafe or the owner.'),
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HI, Bri that name doesnt ring a bell are u sure? thanks anyway.
\r\nTo be honest, the name did not ring a bell with me either but the two individuals who gave me the name were both quite confident.\r\n\r\nThey also informed me there once used to be a Chinese Restaurant on two floors at the corner of Trinity Avenue and Augusta Street where Swinton Insurance is today.\r\n\r\nI couldn\\''t remember that either. :roll: \r\n\r\nDoes anyone else?'),
(1306, 'Made some enquiries and found out that the last round of plaques were [properly] courtesy of the County Council. Although it was the result of an initiative rather than departmental [good lord I’m drifting into council speak] which means someone thought it was a good idea rather than applying to a council department.\r\nCraig and I will carry on making enquiries.\r\nWelcome Anna Marie I’m quite new to the town and my main reason for “haunting” these pages is to let the good folks know what is happening at the Tabernacl, which we are trying to open up as the towns Heritage Centre. Which has historical walks every Wednesday and Saturday and they are brilliant. \r\nWe would certainly like to celebrate you Dads achievement’s in some way as part of Llandudno’s Heritage and maybe we can talk about this sometime.\r\nGerry'),
(6644, 'Apart from the Carlton, this had to be one of the most iconic pubs, a real bikers pub, great atmosphere, real rough and ready. A bar, a few seats around the walls, a corner for a toilet, a pool table and good beer. Oh, and a veranda outside for drinking in the sunlight. Absolutely full of character. Were you a regular?'),
(1308, 'Well theres a few places which spring to mind where a plaque could be affixed in memory of Alex, one would be somewhere near the Cafetaria where the world famous Happy Valley Entertainers Stage once stood or somewhere near the old pavilion site now, or perhaps on the London Hotel in Upper Mostyn St. Maybe Anna-Marie would like to share her thoughts on this.'),
(1309, 'Yes Bri, Suepp mentioned that on  an earlier post and hubby remembers it too but i cant.'),
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Well theres a few places which spring to mind where a plaque could be affixed in memory of Alex, one would be somewhere near the Cafetaria where the world famous Happy Valley Entertainers Stage once stood or somewhere near the old pavilion site now, or perhaps on the London Hotel in Upper Mostyn St. Maybe Anna-Marie would like to share her thoughts on this.
\r\nand please don\\''t forget, if wet, in the town hall.\r\n\r\nPlease forgive me but I just couldn\\''t resist !! :lol:'),
(1311, 'I always remember that saying too (if wet town hall)! and every time I watch Wimbledon and Henman Hill is mentioned guess what it reminds  me of?'),
(11001, 'saw Philip evans out and about'),
(11002, 'Lloyd Street school was the town\\''s first board school, and was established in 1881. The memorial stone was laid by the town\\''s MP, W. Rathbone. The Chairman of the board was Benjamin Woodcock, the proprietor of St George\\''s Hall. Another foundation stone was laid by John Bright MP, the famous Liberal dissenter. (Another Llandudno school, Ysgol John Bright, is named after him.)\r\n\r\nThe school was built after Forster\\''s Education Act of 1870 legislated for the universal provision of elementary education. The school was opened in 1882 in response to pressure by HM inspectors.\r\n\r\nIn 1847 an inspector\\''s report highlighted a controversy which still exists - the place of the Welsh language as a medium of instruction in Welsh schools. The report stated that out of 200 children questioned, only about 10 could answer questions in English. If a similar survey were conducted today, it is likely that only a small minority could answer questions in Welsh, although in recent years there has been a welcome increase in Welsh teaching in the local schools.\r\n\r\nThe school eventually became a state primary school and closed in the 1980\\''s. It is now home to the \\''Llandudno Archives\\''. If you look above the main entrance you can still see the inscription in stone \\''Llandudno Board School.\\'''),
(6642, '● \\''Llety\\''r Filiast\\'', loosely translated as \\''lair of the female greyhound\\'', is the earliest known archeologically site on the Great Orme. It is a burial chamber used for collective burial during the Neolithic period between 3,500 and 2,500 BC. It is thought that the most important or prominent member of the community would have been buried here. \r\n\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(6643, '● By Victorian times techniques for mining had developed and vertical shafts and horizontal adits were created using gun powder enabling access to deeper veins of Malachite. Malachite is the ore from which copper is extracted. The mines fells into disuse again around the 1860s.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
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Well theres a few places which spring to mind where a plaque could be affixed in memory of Alex, one would be somewhere near the Cafetaria where the world famous Happy Valley Entertainers Stage once stood or somewhere near the old pavilion site now, or perhaps on the London Hotel in Upper Mostyn St. Maybe Anna-Marie would like to share her thoughts on this.
\r\nPersonally, I think the former site of the Happy Valley Entertainers stage would be most suitable for a plaque.\r\n\r\nDave'),
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  \r\nPersonally, I think the former site of the Happy Valley Entertainers stage would be most suitable for a plaque.\r\n\r\nDave
\r\nI totally agree.\r\n\r\nThat is where I have many happy memories of Alex. :D \r\n\r\nIn fact, I am very surprised to learn there is no plaque or even a statue erected up there already in honour of the great gentleman. :shock: \r\n\r\nQueen Victoria is up there and Alex did far more for Llandudno than she ever did !! :roll: \r\n\r\nAnyway, I always say it is never too late.'),
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Many people have suggested that it would be appropriate for there to be at least a plaque of some sort to commemorate him in the town - something my mother always hoped would happen but she passed away in 1997 without there being anything for him - I have always felt that it would indeed be a lovely tribute but feel unable to approach anyone myself with regard to this matter - I always thought that it should come from another source rather than his family and an awful long time has passed now! I am just pleased that so many people stop me when they meet me and tell me they still remember him and what a great character he was!
\r\n\r\nOk, I have just got off the phone to Stuart and Elan Rivers regarding the prospect of getting a commemorative plaque for Alex, after putting our thoughts across to them I am 99.5% sure this is going to be implemented with their next batch of plaques to be put up around the town and they have now added Alex to the list. This will be subject however to council funding. So i\\''ve done my best for you all. If Anna-Marie can get in contact with Elan regarding the placement of the plaque on the telephone number i\\''ve emailed you. Some of our members have proposed the Happy Valley Entertainers Stage (now cafetaria), or the London Hotel on Upper Mostyn St which has also be proposed.\r\n\r\nFingers Crossed, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(10374, 'Dont worry-- my vote will certainly not be for any of this useless lot--- I am waiting for the visits and leaflets to start. They might get a shock !!'),
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\r\nYes i still rememeber the day you ran away from home to 112 on your go kart with your teddy under your arm :lol: \r\nit was two weeks before your mum noticed you had gone
\r\n\r\nGO KART!!!!!!  \r\nIt was a red sports peddle car! and teddy was in the boot.\r\n\r\nAnd it was two weeks before Nain had had enough of me and sent me back!
\r\n\r\nI seem to remember it was me she moved out and kept you.'),
(8254, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nShoot down one of these fantastic bottles brewed locally by the Great Orme Brewery! They do a \\''Three Feathers\\'', \\''Extravaganza Ale\\'' and even \\''Orme\\''s Best\\''.\r\n\r\nThis is what Great Orme Brewery have to say about themselves...\r\n\r\nWhy a Brewery\r\nIn a nutshell I am one of the many people, who over a pint (or was it a lot more than that) with a few friends said \\''Wouldn\\''t it be a great idea to run a brewery\\''. Most people come to their senses once the alcoholic haze wears off, but not for me. After working for ten years as a management consultant in the foods and drinks industry I thought it was high time this poacher turned game-keeper. Or putting it another way, rather than suggesting how other people should run their businesses I should start running one myself.\r\n\r\nWhy in North Wales\r\nCos\\'' this is where I was born and grew up. Although I disappeared down south for the best part of fifteen years I found myself being drawn back to one of the most beautiful areas of the United Kingdom. Once I returned I set to converting part of what was the family farm into a brewery.\r\nAt the time when the idea of a brewery was first forming no other breweries existed within a forty mile radius. The area was a real ale wasteland. Although this is no longer the case it is still one of the few areas where regional brands are yet to establish themselves, or are at least in their infancy. \r\n\r\nThe Beer\r\nEvery brewery says they use the finest grains, with the finest hops blended with the finest water to make the finest beer. Tell me something new I hear you shout. Well, yes of course we do the finest ingredients bit (we\\''d be stupid not to) but that is just the beginning. In addition we have two aims that drive us. \r\n\r\n1. We want to produce beers that locals can be proud of and visitors will come back for.\r\n2. As well as brewing great beer, we want to be a really nice company to work with. \r\n\r\nOur beers and our attitude are quickly gaining the reputation we are working so hard to achieve, so whether you are a drinker wanting to try our beer or a business looking to stock our beers we believe you won\\''t be disappointed.\r\n\r\nSpecial Thanks \r\nThe brewery and the beer it produces have not been developed in isolation. Not only should I extend sincere thanks to friends and family but also to Mr. Arthur Seddon, ex Bass Master Brewer, who has been an invaluable guide throughout the development process, John Parker for building such a fantastic little brewery and Steve Wellington for putting up with my endless phone calls.\r\n\r\n- - - - - - -\r\n\r\nOrme\\''s Best - 4.2% - "Our Best Seller"\r\nTasting Notes\r\nA mouth-watering cask conditioned ale based on a traditional Welsh recipe.\r\nA chestnut coloured best bitter created by the subtle addition of crystal and chocolate malts to the base Maris Otter pale ale malt. The initial well balanced taste between the malt and hops gives way to a delicate smoked finish. \r\nWhy Choose this Beer\r\nThis well-rounded session ale is the ideal beer for those pubs wanting to stock a local beer on a permanent basis due mainly to its honest all-round appeal. Customers often find this beer outsells all other real ales combined when placed against national brands.\r\n\r\nExtravaganza Ale - 4.6% - "Championship Winner"\r\nTasting Notes\r\nA refreshing contemporary cask conditioned golden ale full of citrus taste and aroma.\r\nThis ale is brewed using a single pale ale malt giving at a lovely golden colour. Citrus flavoured hops are used during the boil to produce an intense fruity flavour which is often enjoyed as an alternative to lager, especially if drinking it chilled from the bottle.\r\nWhy Choose this Beer\r\nThis beer won Champion Ale at the 2006 Leeds CAMRA beer festival and has consistently been regarded as one of the best beers at subsequent festivals across the UK. This ale has a real customer following. \r\nAWARDS \r\nChampion Ale - Leeds CAMRA Beer Festival 2006\r\nSilver Medal Winner - Falmouth CAMRA Beer Festival 2006\r\n\r\nThree Feathers - 5.0% - "Perfectly Balanced Stronger Ale"\r\nTasting Notes\r\nBased on the traditional IPAs of the 19th century this 5% beer is the strongest we do, however its strength is well balanced by the hop taste resulting in a very easy to drink sophisticated pint. Crystal malt is added to the usual pale ale base giving this beer a copper appearance. \r\nWhy Choose this Beer\r\nThis ale is ideally suited for those pubs wanting a fine example of a North Wales ale as a guest beer or for regular sellers of Orme\\''s Best wanting a stronger companion ale to sit along side it.\r\nAWARDS\r\nSilver Medal Winner - Falmouth CAMRA Beer Festival 2006\r\n\r\nBUY ONLINE: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nWe\\''re always happy to talk about our beer and our brewery, so whether you\\''re a publican wishing to stock our beer or you\\''ve tasted our beer and want to find out more, just call, email or write.\r\nWe don\\''t officially do brewery tours but we\\''re happy to make special arrangement for individuals or small groups to visit. Call and pop in for a quick sip!\r\n\r\nThe Great Orme Brewery\r\nNant - y - Cywarch\r\nGlan Conwy\r\nCONWY \r\nLL28 5PP\r\n\r\nTel: 01492 580 548\r\nE-mail: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nWeb: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(1321, 'Another programme peeps! anyone know what the Lucky No. is all about? Also noticed it says Jubilee year, so was the Alex Munro show running for 25 years then?\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nThanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1322, 'Does anyone know if the guns on the Orme during WWII were ever fired at German bombers heading to or from a mission over Liverpool and the North West?'),
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Another programme peeps! anyone know what the Lucky No. is all about? Also noticed it says Jubilee year, so was the Alex Munro show running for 25 years then?\r\n
\r\nThe Lucky No. would be for a raffle to be held at some point during the show, I would guess? The holder of the programme with the winning number would receive a prize of some sort.\r\n\r\n1977 was the Queen\\''s Silver Jubilee Year, so I\\''m guessing that\\''s what it is a reference to.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Does anyone know if the guns on the Orme during WWII were ever fired at German bombers heading to or from a mission over Liverpool and the North West?
\r\n\r\nDon\\''t think so. As far as I know, they were only designed to fire at targets out at sea and so couldn\\''t fire at planes etc.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Does anyone know if the guns on the Orme during WWII were ever fired at German bombers heading to or from a mission over Liverpool and the North West?
\r\nLets hope not they would have probably bombarded Anglesey the way they were facing! - it was an Artillery training school.'),
(1328, 'Hello Richard.\r\n\r\nAbout your mail of March 5th (I\\''ve been away from the site for a while). Interesting you worked on the pier in the seventies and I must know you. I certainly knew Georgie Vale (Billy Vale provided another of those nocturnal oases) and Dennis. We had a group called Rhythm Machine which played nightly at the Stage Door bar in seasons 1975 and 76. Glyn Dryhurst (leader) on trumpet and occasional vocals, Ed Lloyd Hughes (who was anarchic and used to wear large plastic ears which some people got really upset about) on bass guitar, Alan Wharley? Wharton? on lead guitar and vocals, Harry Chester on baritone sax, Barry Jones on drums, me on tenor sax and clarinet, and the delectable Sara Jones was the main singer. IMHO Sara was one of the best singers I\\''ve heard - anywhere - and one of the nicest people.\r\n\r\nI remember Doreen Roberts with affection. She was one of the barmaids and used to look after us well. I remember too, Judith, the NNW reporter was a fan. They were great nights at the Stage Door and many locals were regulars.\r\n\r\nN.B. About my previous mailing - shame on you all that no-one remembered Jack Kershaw!\r\n\r\nHeddwch.\r\n\r\nMike. :!:'),
(1329, 'Yes. Wagstaffs was next to the General Post Office in Vaughan Street. One of the old Llandudno institutions. Old Mr Wagstaff who seemed to have been bent and frail since he was in his fifties was a very friendly man who went out of his way to help. I bought my first instruments there on HP. George Holmes and Pat Batho were the regular staff. In my time they had quite a decent stock of records, mainly 78s but George had a knack of getting anything you wanted quickly - even the new fangled 45s and long players! You could spend all afternoon looking through the catalogues.\r\n\r\nHeddwch.\r\n\r\nMike.');
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(1333, 'REFERENCE: NORTH WALES WEEKLY NEWS (icnorthwales.co.uk)\r\nLINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nANY new homes built in Llandudno should be affordable and designated for local people, insists the town council.\r\n\r\nCouncillors say the resort already has enough luxury houses and flats and has decided enough is enough.\r\n\r\nCllr Sylvia Barrett raised the issue at a meeting of the town council last week. “I believe passionately that we should be talking only about local houses for local people and anything that is built from now on should be affordable housing for local need,” she said.\r\n\r\nThe council had been asked to give its views on an application for outline planning permission for residential development on former tennis courts at the junction of Abbey Road and Great Orme’s Road on West Shore.\r\n\r\nThe land is owned by Conwy County Council, and Cllr Barrett sees this as an opportunity to lay down conditions for the development. “I propose we send a letter saying they should look at local housing need first and foremost. We have enough luxury flats in the town,” she insisted.\r\n\r\n“We all know of young people who are desperate for their own homes but can’t afford to get onto the housing ladder. Our young people have to move out of town to find affordable housing and that is terrible for the future of our community.\r\n\r\n“If we lose all our young people, the future is bleak.”\r\n\r\nBut Cllr Brian Bertola felt there was little hope of all new housing developments being aimed at people on low incomes. “Our only hope is for this site to be taken by a housing association which prioritises affordable housing,” he commented.\r\n\r\nCouncillors voted to write to Conwy County Council asking them to stipulate the tennis courts site should be used for affordable housing, and also asking that this should be a priority when they consider future applications for sites in the town council area.'),
(1336, 'Right all in all since I signed the petition and sent out a mass email, we\\''ve had 5 more people sign it, theres over 60 people in this forum, come on everyone! Like our previous poster says, it only takes a couple of seconds!\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1337, 'I\\''ve already signed it, a very worthy cause indeed. Some pics of the Pier here:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157600045263923/\r\n\r\nWhat\\''s also worth a plug is the Art Exhibition being held in the Pier\\''s Pavilion from 1st - 30th April. Admission is free and it\\''s also a good opportunity to see the inside of the art deco Pavilion building, with its amazing stained glass \\''lay light\\'' in the centre of the ceiling.\r\n\r\nMore info here:\r\nwww.victoriapier.com\r\n\r\nSC'),
(1338, 'I see in the Daily Post today that Ivor Wynne Jones has died. As the writer of Llandudno - Queen of the Welsh Resorts and a regular contributor for over 50 years to the Daily Post, he was undoubtedly one of the most knowledgeable people as far as Llandudno and its history were concerned.\r\n\r\nWEB LINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login),
(1335, 'Done it! Come on everyone it only takes a few seconds.'),
(1339, 'HI all, sorry to seem ignorant about this but what are we saving it from? is it being demolished or is the owner not able to keep it anymore?'),
(1340, 'From what I can gather they are struggling to get any funding for its restoration, a trust has been setup called \\''Friends of the Pier\\'' who are backing its restoration, as a charitable platform would hold better stance in getting the funds it needs, i.e. from the likes of the government, national lottery grants etc. I have read somewhere else that the private owner is aiming to hand over the building to the group once the work is carried out. I would hate to see Colwyn Bay Pier fall down to the same fate as many other piers around the country, I mean could you imagine Llandudno losing its Pier? Seaside piers around the coast of Britain stand as a powerful reminder of the achievements of Victorian engineers and entrepreneurs. At the turn of the last century, almost a hundred piers existed: now only half remain and several face an uncertain future.\r\n\r\nTAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1341, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nWell I\\''ve done my bit and voted, and now to keep everyone focused on the subject, here\\''s a little riddle for you all to try and solve.\r\n\r\nWhat\\''s 30 feet long, blue, weighs seven tons, and if you drove it off Southend pier it would go a mile and a half before it hit the water ?\r\n\r\nWhat is it, and what was the name of the BBC drama it\\''s a quote from ?\r\n\r\nHave fun !'),
(1342, 'Both Ivor Wynne Jones\\''s books received a 5 Star OLLE rating in our Book Archive Reference section, the older book (1975 issue) is a little harder to get hold of these days and can be found from time to time on the well known ebay auction website. The newer edition of his book is still readily available elsewhere on the internet.\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nTITLE: LLANDUDNO QUEEN OF WELSH RESORTS\r\nAUTHOR: IVOR WYNNE JONES\r\nPUBLISHED: 1975\r\nISBN: 0-902375-38-5\r\nPAGES: 110/SOFT BACK\r\nPRINT: MONO/COLOUR\r\nLANGUAGE: ENGLISH\r\nOLLE RATING: You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nTITLE: LLANDUDNO QUEEN OF WELSH RESORTS\r\nAUTHOR: IVOR WYNNE JONES\r\nPUBLISHED: 2002\r\nISBN: 1-84306-048-5\r\nPAGES: 144/HARD BACK\r\nPRINT: COLOUR\r\nLANGUAGE: ENGLISH\r\nOLLE RATING: You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nMore book references can be found in our archive at:\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/books.htm\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1343, 'Right it\\''s been a little while since any light was put upon this topic, last time I was awaiting a response from Alan Vollam, and after several emails ive just had a telephone call off him. So I asked him a 1001 questions!\r\n\r\nNow Alan Vollam was born and bred of Llandudno and has connections to the town through both his father \\''Albert Ernest Vollam\\'' who died in 1972 at the age of 67 years. His fathers\\'' father (granddad) was also called \\''Albert Ernest Vollam\\'' if that isnt confusing enough who died in 1933 at the age of 57.\r\n\r\nIt was Alan Vollams Granddad who founded the Craig-y-Don bowling Club. And it was Alan Vollams Dad who became president of Llandudno Bowling Club in 1966.\r\n\r\nAlans Granddad was also a well known postcard publisher in Queens Road, Craig-y-Don. Alans dad was the Postmaster for Vollams Post Office in Gloddaeth St. It is still called Vollams Newsagents today.\r\n\r\nAlans Granddad was actually of North London, and says nobody knows why he came to Llandudno, but he guess he wanted a better life. He used to own a house on Bodafon Lane called Highbank which overlooks Bodafon Field. Alans dad however was of Lansdale House on Queens Road.\r\n\r\nIf anyone else has questions they would like to put forward to Alan, I can contact him directly.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1344, 'Thanks for that Craig. Alan\\''s dad was president of the club for the latter part of its most successful period (1960-70), and was in the 1970 championship winning team photo (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login). It seems that both Alan\\''s father and grandfather were very great influences for bowls in the Llandudno area.'),
(1345, 'Thinking about it , Craig, could you ask Alan if he has any photos from the club\\''s past which perhaps were in his dad\\''s possession and which he may have now? If so, could he possibly scan them and email them to you and you to me? Or, if he has copies made I\\''m sure the club would buy them off him.\r\nThanks,\r\nMarc'),
(1346, 'QUESTION: I would like to see if we can create a running list of holiday essentials over the past hundred years that would come to mind with a visit to Llandudno. Put yourself in the shoes of someone (or a family) visiting here, how would you they get here, what would they bring, what would they do. How do these things differ nowadays in comparison, whats changed? Think about what may have been in their pocket, luggage, what would they buy here, what would they take home? So for example...\r\n\r\nPRE 1970 - A TRAIN TICKET, cars were less common back then and most people travelled by train, nowadays most people travel by car.\r\n\r\nPRE 2000 - A POSTCARD, postcards were once the common form of boasting a sunny week away, nowadays it\\''s quick snap with a camera phone and a small text message.\r\n\r\nFrom this i\\''m looking to make a contrasting view of how  family holidays have changed in Llandudno, maybe some things have always stayed the same?\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1347, 'Hows about 1940-45 a gas mask ? Although was LLandudno too far away to worry about the German Air Force?'),
(1348, 'Suepp passed on your message.  John has passed on your regards to the rest of the band.  There are still some of the \\''old\\'' members still there.  they only play 2 nights a week now not 7 like they used to do, but they play quite a few concerts through the year.  John says to come and have a \\''blow\\''.'),
(1349, 'Great photo. I know most of them. Bill Jones and George Brookes also used to play good jazz trumpet with later versions of our Blue Notes.\r\n\r\nMike.'),
(1350, 'I remember two roads that were renamed in Llandudno, both have fond memories. Council Street, now called Norman road, and Jacksons Lane, which was half of the now Clarence Crescent and Clarence Drive, leading to craig-y-don.  Jacksons Lane had the Riding Stables, very  creepy at night. and council street was full of character, working class terrace houses with a huge community spirit within them. All the residents are still local people in Llandudno.'),
(1351, 'Not everyone is good enough for the full scale courses, remember the mini-golf by the washington? what fun we used to have there, I remember my big brother standing to close behind me, what a whack in the ear he had.....lol.  Then there was the big golf course on the orme where the ski slope now stands, who on earth thought it was a good idea to have a 60 degree slanting green.....lol. Oh and dont forget the crazy golf.'),
(1352, 'Ok at first i had trouble with the site god knows why but i have done my bit and signed the petition.\r\nAs you all know im from Blackpool (but will be moving to wales with craig upon finishing my nursing course) and we currently have all 3 of our piers still remaining. I understand the importance of keeping what history we have left alive so im all for keeping colwyn bay pier .\r\nI went on the website that craig posted and i was looking at all the different piers that are still around today. I couldnt get over how much the 3 piers in Blackpool have changed and its a shame really because the piers that we see around Britain all show just how advanced the victorians were for there time. Some of the more modern buildings, structures etc are falling to bits so it just goes to show that modern technology isnt everything which is why its so important that we save what little there is left of are older buildings.\r\nCome on all you fellow enthusiasts lets see what difference we can make together i know we can make a big difference if we set are minds to it\r\nTHANK YOU'),
(1353, ':) My Mother Nellie Roberts worked in Sandbach\\''s and it was owned by David Sandbach before he married Barbara.  I also remember his Mother,  at that time they lived in either Vicarage Avenue or Vicarage Rd.\r\nMy Mother used to pack nice boxes of chocolates for the staff, but when it came to her own she just put them in a bag.  I used to love hoosing a nice box for presents and having them packed with the recipents favourites.  I always used to buy the milk chocolate buttons for my grndchildren.  It was quite some time before I couldgo in after my mother died.  Like everyone else it is sad to see such a lovely building go.'),
(1354, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login anyone have a name for this woman yet?\r\n\r\nThe reason i am asking, and yes it is a totally outside chance, is my ex lives in llandudno, and is 33 years old?  Just concerned thats all, and NO, i dont want it to be her either!'),
(1355, 'One of the papers today said she had East European connections.'),
(1356, 'That is something i heard, which without trying to sound callous is a bit of a relief, although not local, my ex was british.'),
(1358, 'Polish I have been led to believe.\r\n\r\nTragic !!'),
(1359, 'Just been informed it was cable car No.31 that the lady fell from.'),
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\r\n\r\n"I refuse to answer on the grounds I may incriminate myself"
\r\n\r\n\r\nYou\\''ve already done that with those sunglasses  :D'),
(6969, 'I\\''m not quite sure of the history is of Deganwy but I know a few snippets. The docks used to be quite prominent sometime in it\\''s history, though before it was recently built over and had fell derelict in recent years. Personally though I used to love walking around the docks, there was a real rustic feel which captured you as you explored the site. Other nostalgic attributes, there was the Welsh Rhine Boats which departed up the Conwy River to Trefriw and more recently some of our members may remember the Deganwy Outdoor swimming pool which was quite sizeable.\r\n\r\nFor some time Deganwy had laid dormant, until recently. The new Deganwy Marina has given the place a new lease of life and it is quite a spectacular complex indeed, though it is a shame to say as always these developments only cater for people with bigger pockets and probably not even local, it is the only time I envy our english cousins. I was quite upset when I went to have a look around the Marina a year back, just like I used to explore the old dock site as I did when I was younger, and was told by some man, again probably not even local to keep away and as he said this is \\''private grounds\\'', I was only being a keen photographer at the time. I honestly felt like telling him where to go, but I didnt...\r\n\r\nI don\\''t know what the future has in store for Deganwy, though I think greater ties could be sought between Llandudno, Deganwy and Llandudno Junction to generate new development in the area and boost our success further.'),
(1364, 'I have been told she was polish. I was actually up the great orme when all this was going on. A few of us had walked up to the summit and commented on the fact the cable cars were not running on such a busy weekend. We knew something was going on as we heard a few comments from people up at the summit. As we were leaving around 5.30 pm, they had reopened for business. I only found out later that evening what had actually happened. Its really sad.'),
(10130, 'In 1820, Mr William Jones stole a sheep grazing on the Great Orme, and was arrested by the Constable, but gave him the slip before he could be locked-up. Jones had dragged the sheep into a cave, bound it\\''s legs and left it, intending to retrieve it at nightfall.\r\nUnknowing to Jones, the sheep was discovered, and a watch put on the cave. He was apprehended again attempting to leave the cave with the incriminating evidence of the sheep draped around his shoulders, but escaped for the second time.\r\nHe was arrested once more in Conwy where he was \\''very unruly and threatened to kill the Constables\\''. At Caernarfon County Court he pleaded not guilty but was sentenced to death. The sentence was immediately commuted to transportation.'),
(1366, 'Whilst walking at West Shore this morning, I stopped at the White Rabbit statue, which commemorates the supposed links between Llandudno and the Alice\\''s Adventures In Wonderland childrens books.\r\n\r\nAs you can see in the photo below, it doesn\\''t present a great impression for visitors:\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nThe pool was practically empty of water and was, instead, full of sand, pebbles & bits of broken paving stones. The paving stone surround to the pool had at least 2 damaged or missing stones and the White Rabbit statue itself was damaged, with the Rabbit\\''s hand completely missing, for example. There is also a lot of blown sand covering the path around the pool.\r\n\r\nAs far as I know, the statue has been like this for two years (at least). Do the local Councillors ever walk around the area they are supposed to be \\''serving\\''?\r\n\r\n\r\nSC'),
(1367, 'In a word NO !\r\nLook at the litter in Tudno Street, Arvon Avenue and Chapel Street to name a few. It is ankle deep in places !'),
(1368, 'We too wondered what was going on as the \\''copter was hovering around at the back of us for ages-- looking for the pour soul I imagine.\r\nCould have thought of a less messy and traumatic way to do it though, I pity the poor people who saw her jump. I have heard on the \\''grapevine\\'' that she went up on it the day before and was asking about where was the highest point etc.'),
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At least it will tidy up that plot of land.\r\n\r\nIt is becoming untidy.\r\n\r\nApart from new homes, I really don\\''t know what else you could build on there.
\r\nMaybe a local business could have moved there and refurbished the existing building, as it looks perfectly sound to me? As every piece of land is gobbled up for housing, there is less and less space for new/existing businesses to move to.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(13875, 'A nice thought, SC, but why would someone want to spend money on purchasing and refurbishing the old Community Centre when there are empty shops ready and waiting to be occupied in both Queens Road and Mostyn Avenue?\r\n\r\nOn the other hand, I suppose it would make an excellent C-y-D Youth Club especially as the new Community Centre don\\''t appear interested in wanting one on their premises.  :? '),
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A stuntman by the name of \\''Daredevil Curly\\'' used to perform at the Council Field during the summer months of the mid 1950\\''s. His main act was to climb an 80ft ladder, then jump into a tank of water 5ft deep, which was occasionally set alight.
\r\n\r\nThe \\''Llandudno Circular\\'' newspaper dated August 13 1955, had an advertisement for \\''Dare Devil Curly\\'' for his August 15th show - \r\n\r\n"See his death defying dive from 80ft into 5ft of water and see his sensational fire-dive at evening performance". The next \\''Llandudno Circular\\'' had a photograph of him in mid-dive.'),
(1372, 'Hi everyone,\r\n\r\nWhen I first heard about this I thought it must be a tragic accident. From the news reports I\\''ve read it now appears that it was suicide. I find this deeply sad an upsetting, particularly as it was on The Great Orme, a place that is uplifting, spiritual, and inspirational. This poor woman decided that her life meant nothing to her or anyone else and chose to kill herself in this bizarre way. Was there a message in the way she chose. Was her final act carefully chosen and symbolic. How tragic it is when a person feels that no one cares if they live or die, and they themsleves decide that the prospect of ending their life seems better than the prospect of living it. Nothing has been solved by this act, and nothing have been achieved.\r\nMay she now be at peace.'),
(13628, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nThe person on the right in this 2005 Llandudno public house security camera video shot, is believed to be a once notorious Carlton Seagull who has now spread his wings and flown from the country. He was last seen bob-bob-bobbing along Interstate 65 in the U.S. The F.B.I. has advised he is to be only approached with sixteen cans of Tetley Bitter.'),
(13617, 'I was first introduced to alcohol by my Grandmother - an Irish lady who liked whiskey in her coffee. I was aged about six, and she would always give me a tiny drop in my Maxwell House. "I\\''ll put some body in your coffee" she would say.\r\n\r\nIn the mid 1970\\''s my friend and I bought a \\''Home Brew\\'' kit from Woolworths, then bought a plastic bucket from \\''Nails & Stuff\\'' in Craig-y-don to brew the beer in. We mixed the contents of the kit into the water filled bucket, which we then covered with cling-film and then we proceeded to hide the bucket in his closet away from his parents\\'' prying eyes. I don\\''t think we fermented it for long enough though, as the stuff tasted like dishwater. :mrgreen:'),
(13618, 'Well strawberries have long been gone now, waiting for next year to arrive with them, but I have a good crop of a couple of hundred tomato\\''s looks like they\\''re going to be laten\\''s! Anyone else growing anything interesting?'),
(13619, 'Did you find anything?'),
(13620, 'So thats why youve been pissshed all these years its still fermenting :lol:  :lol:  :lol:'),
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There used to be quite a few seagulls hanging around the carlton years ago but they have all flown now only a few old ones left :D
\r\n\r\nWhen the Carlton seaguls go bob, bob, bobbing along!!!!'),
(13622, 'CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH FINDING MY GRANDFATHER.  HIS NAME WAS EDWARD JONES HE DIED IN THE EARLY 1940\\''S. HIS ADDRESS AT TIME OF DEATH WAS 4 COUNCIL STREET LLANDUDNO. HIS WIFE\\''S NAME WAS MARGARET AND HE WAS A CARPENTER - JOINER WHO I THINK WORKED AT BODDICE ON BUILDER STREET LLANDUDNO.\r\nI LIVE IN CANADA AND HAVE LIMITED RESOURES. I HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP AS I AM HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING INFORMATION,'),
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So thats why youve been pissshed all these years its still fermenting :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
\r\n\r\n :?'),
(13624, 'I was waiting for the call of a fellow seagull :lol:'),
(13625, 'I remember going up to the King\\''s Head with some friends on the occasion of our "O" level results.  I wasn\\''t sure what to ask for but fortunately, at the last minute, I remembered that my mum liked babycham and brandy so I ordered one of those.  I had two more and was in bed by 8:00 and just about woke up in time for my "A" level results which were disappointing.'),
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The old ground on conwy road, I saw some great games there also used to go to see the wrestling there in the summer. Does anyone remember the military tattoo that was held there in the late 60s. Then over the field to simmons fun fair to hang out on the bobby horses and listen to the music. Would love to hear any other fond memories people may have?\r\n\r\nThanks, Dave.
\r\n\r\nThen there was the day after the events, when the field would be swamped by kids and grown ups with metal detectors looking for cartridges and coins......lol.  Found many myself.'),
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2011, 09:12:26 AM »
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Share your memories of local characters here!\r\n\r\nI could run of a list here! So come on, scratch your heads, put on your thinking socks, and lets get this forum moving!\r\n\r\nThe Editor, Craig Ollerton.
\r\n\r\nEvery Generation has their characters, I would cringe if I was to find out in the future I would come one of them....tee hee,  How about, the charasmatic "Sonny", riding around on his bike with his flat cap and mouth organ. God he knew some stories. Now I am not definate if he is still around, but where ever he is, god bless his soul. Then there is Eddie who was disabled and sold papers outside the Carlton Pub in his light blue electric car.  He is still about, has a nice shiny new vehicle now, very popular guy he is too. Then most memorable for me, was "Merfin" cant remember his surname, or the illness he had that made him forever youthful in his ways, but I do remember his impeckable manners and his fantastic voice, he loved to sing his heart out, and dare I say pestered Alex Munro for regular singing spots in his Happy Valley Talent shows.  The crowds loved him.  Sadly Merfin did die years ago in a motorway accident. A very well loved man with a big heart.'),

(1377, 'Gerald, I seem to remember Merfyn did sadly die in a motorway accident but I also believe there is an annual football match played locally in his memory.\r\n\r\nI made some enquiries about Sonny not too long ago and I believe he is now in a care home.\r\n\r\nI also saw Eddie not too long ago. \r\n\r\nI seem to remember it was always handy to know that on a Saturday evening one could always purchase a newspaper from Eddie for the football final results on the Carlton Buffet Corner.'),

(1378, '
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Gerald, I seem to remember Merfyn did sadly die in a motorway accident but I also believe there is an annual football match played locally in his memory.\r\n\r\nI made some enquiries about Sonny not too long ago and I believe he is now in a care home.\r\n\r\nI also saw Eddie not too long ago. \r\n\r\nI seem to remember it was always handy to know that on a Saturday evening one could always purchase a newspaper from Eddie for the football final results on the Carlton Buffet Corner.
\r\n\r\nNice to know sonny hasn`t left us yet. bet he keeps on his toes at the home. As for merfyn, I seem to remember he could have been involved with a football club selling programmes or something, I think he last lived in Mochdre.'),

(1379, 'Poor Merfyn, I remember him well. I think he used to live in Pydew. I was really shocked when I heard how he died.'),

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I remember the dump, and can remember seeing Mr Moore,(lived in Howard Place, and also called Captain Moore if I recall correctly)  from the RSPCA I think,  taking dogs onto the tip and coming back without them. Also locals would go onto the tip for scrap metal to take to Simpsons or Dodds, (remember Dodds anyone ?) . Well times were hard back then!!
\r\n\r\nJack Dodds :!:'),

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Do you remember Derek Livingstone, a local chef? He had his CB Radio fitted to his push bike and would cycle around town whilst chatting to other users. Can\\''t remember what his "handle" was though!!!
\r\n\r\n :lol:  Yea, that definately \\''rings a bell\\''. Can\\''t remember his \\''handle\\'' either.'),

(10127, 'I remember getting chased by the Police along Maes-du-Ave. I was on my Yamaha enduro bike and they were in their Mini van.\r\nI made a right into Maes-du-Road, then a quick left across the dump, where I made my escape. No police helicopter in those days.  :wink:'),
(10128, 'I always remember every St David\\''s Day in Primary & Middle school, when we had to pin a daffodil to our school jumpers. Great idea for the kids with hay fever - a big lump of pollen stuck right under their nose.'),

(10129, 'The 1907 Roman coin discovery took place on January 10th, opposite the stable entrance of Simdda Hir, on Mrs Holden\\''s property.\r\nThe exact spot was in the bank, twelve yards from the road, entering the gate just east of the ruins of the old farm buildings. The bank was at the foot of the Rhiwleden cliffs which rise 150 feet above it on the north.\r\nWorkmen were excavating soil & rubble from the Little Orme for use in the construction of Mostyn Broadway, when they unearthed a collection of coins at a depth of 2 1/2 feet. Mrs Holden of Simdda Hir took possession of the 452 coins recovered. Meanwhile, the workmen continued with their delivery of two cart-loads of soil & rubble which was dumped onto land between St Pauls Church and the Grand Theatre.\r\nThe next day, passers-by noticed coins glinting in the deposited earth, and shortly an enthusiastic crowd were hard at work in a search for the Roman coins.\r\nTowards the end of the day, at least 100 coins had been found, and the o probably still lie under Mostyn Broadway to this day.\r\nThe police, acting on behalf of the Treasury, confiscated most of the finds, as they at first thought the coins were composed of precious metals, which would make them \\''Treasure Trove\\''. Eventually the coins were returned to the finders, and subsequently sold to dealers and interested visitors.'),

(1382, 'Four years ago my wife and I moved to Rhos-on-Sea, hoping to enjoy its beautiful open sea views in our retirement.  We resigned ourselves to the fact that another wind farm was to be built at Rhyl Flats, believing that it shouldn’t look much worse than the existing adjacent wind farm at North Hoyle.\r\n\r\nAt the time, we didn’t realise that we were being deceived as to the true location of this proposed eyesore.\r\n\r\nMy real complaint, not as a ‘shallow-minded nimby’ but as a retired Professional Engineer, is the fact that Wind Turbine Generators are next to useless as far as national power generation is concerned. \r\nW.T.G.s  provide only 25%  (if you’re lucky!) of their declared rated output, and they represent the most expensive (cost per kWh) form of power generation yet invented.  Furthermore, their total energy contribution to the national grid can be little better than insignificant, contrary to the government’s declared targets. \r\n\r\nAnd they’re down right ugly! – well, apparently not to the eyes of those who pathetically think they can ‘save the world’ with a few windmills.  I often think that these do-gooders get a feeling of self-righteousness from scarring our beautiful scenery for ‘the good of mankind’, perversely believing that there is some moral merit in making beautiful things ugly, as long as it has the ‘green’ stamp of approval.\r\n\r\nThe joke is, if it were not so tragic, that if we were to completely surround the Welsh coast with a million or so windmills, their overall effect on reducing global warming would be approximately, as near as anyone could honestly and truly measure, ZERO.\r\n\r\nMore worryingly, why don’t our politicians represent the views of the majority of the people who elected them?  I’m sure that the majority of people in North Wales would vote ‘no’ to locating wind farms in areas of outstanding beauty.'),

(1395, 'hi, i worked at the Grand in the  mid seventies and it was then owned by Trusthouse Forte.'),

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hi, i worked at the Grand in the  mid seventies and it was then owned by Trusthouse Forte.
\r\nWasn\\''t Stephen Capes, the Hotel Manager, around that time or was that later when it had been sold on to the Rank Organisation?'),

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Poor Merfyn, I remember him well. I think he used to live in Pydew. I was really shocked when I heard how he died.
\r\n\r\nYes, you are right, he made a lot of people smile, and did a fantastic job of collecting money for various charities.'),

(1386, 'I am doing genealogy research for my husband\\''s family.  My mother-in-law stayed in a hotel in 1944 very near the pier.  It had columns and a circular driveway.  I think it might have been the Grand Hotel.  She said that American servicemen were staying there and it was owned by her Aunt Grace - possibly Grace Jones.  Is there a way I can find out more history about the hotel so I can confirm that it is the right one?  Thank you!'),

(1387, 'Hi Terry, it is funny you should mention about American Servicemen and the second world war, I recently uploaded this video snippet to our website called \\''YANKS\\'' and the Grand Hotel is actually featured in it.

(1388, '
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It had columns and a circular driveway. I think it might have been the Grand Hotel.
The columns you are referring to I would make a good guess they are the \\''Colonnades\\'' opposite the Grand Hotel, which is a raised walkway which runs up towards Happy Valley. The characters in the \\''Yanks\\'' film are also seen walking along this, and you can see the gentleman pointing towards the Grand Hotel opposite where the lady is hanging up her stockings. I have also attached a picture of the colonnades above, dated c1945, you can see the pier to the right. The circular driveway you refer to I guess is the road which turns past the colonnades or down past the pier half way toll toward the Great Orme Marine drive.'),

(1389, '
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Gerald, I seem to remember Merfyn did sadly die in a motorway accident but I also believe there is an annual football match played locally in his memory.\r\n\r\nI made some enquiries about Sonny not too long ago and I believe he is now in a care home.\r\n\r\nI also saw Eddie not too long ago.
\r\n\r\nYes know Merfyn, he did a lot for the local community, and for a time he helped out at the local Boys Brigade in the St Johns Church.\r\n\r\nSonny, yes vividly remember him riding that bike of his, growing up on the Hospital Estate I remember the kids having a lot of respect for him, I think it was down to his character more than anything. I seem to recollect him riding past Ffordd Elizabeth a lot.\r\n\r\nAnd Eddie, yes I think everyone remembers him for selling newspapers outside the Carlton, I think he still goes for a pint at the Links on occasion.'),

(1390, 'Not many people know of the 18 hole golf course which was built in 1909 adjoining the Summit Hotel, this later closed in 1939. If it\\''s been a few years since you last climbed the Summit, there is a new mini crazy golf course which is quite fun.'),

(1567, 'Hi folks\r\nWhen Craigside Hotel was empty it was overssen by Securicor for security reasons, my father tells me when I was young I nipped in there to see him when I was out on my bike but i cant recall it.  He said I found an empty swimming pool full of frogs there but I\\''m sure I\\''d have recalled that!\r\n\r\nWasnt there a set of garages opposite the hotel and a set of tennis courts?\r\nwho owned the garages and were they for maintenance or just residents?\r\nGareth'),

(1392, 'Thank you so much for the info and video clip.  Is the hotel they park in front of also the Grand?  Is there a way to find out the ownership history of the Grand possibly from a local govenment office?\r\nThank you!'),

(1393, '
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Is the hotel they park in front of also the Grand? Is there a way to find out the ownership history of the Grand?\r\nThank you!
\r\n\r\nYes the Hotel the car parks in front of is the Grand Hotel. I am going to put the open question to our forum member community as follows...\r\n\r\nCan we contribute anything else for Terry who is doing genealogy research into ownership of the Grand Hotel, in particular his mention of a \\''Grace Jones\\'' who possibly owned it during the second world war?'),

(1397, '
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hi, i worked at the Grand in the  mid seventies and it was then owned by Trusthouse Forte.
\r\nWasn\\''t Stephen Capes, the Hotel Manager, around that time or was that later when it had been sold on to the Rank Organisation?
\r\nButlins (then owned by the Rank Organisation) bought the Grand Hotel from Trusthouse Forte in 1981. Rank sold off all of the Grand Hotels (which had by then been demerged from Butlins into a separate division) in 1998 to Britannia Hotels, who are the present owners.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1398, 'During the 70s the manager was brian jones who went ot to buy the washington and turned it in to a great pub .\r\nHe then went on to buy the sychnant hotel in conwy.\r\nHe knew a lot about the history of the grand but im not sure where he is now.                      \r\n                                    Dave.'),

(1399, 'As a non professional engineer (retired or otherwise) why are they the most expensive form of energy provider per KWH ? is that due to the installation/purchase cost or is that ongoing ? \r\n\r\nbring on cold fusion and we`ll all be happy!'),

(1400, 'Its a vicious circle. Tourists wont come if the place is a tip, but if they dont come the tourist money doesnt come in for investment. I am sorry to say that it becomes a bit of a spiral.\r\n\r\nHowever whenever I`ve been we only came to West Shore once as there didnt seem to be anything there. I always thought the west was more residential, almost a retirement area, whilst the North was touristy. Is that not meant to be the case ?'),

(1402, 'Yes Brian Jones was the manager when i worked there ,i remember he saw me dividing the fish course up before i took it out to serve on the silver tray and told me( in a nice way) never to do that as presentation is a very important part of serving a  meal - ive never forgotten that!!'),

(1403, 'Brian ‘Washington’ Jones returns to Llandudno on a regular basis and is certainly alive and kicking.\r\n\r\nI think Brian actually purchased a large house and converted it into the Sychnant Pass Hotel, which he subsequently sold.\r\n\r\nFor a while, Brian was then working as one of those Egon Ronay mystery shoppers and was probably well-qualified for the role by the sounds of it from NORTHWALESCPL.'),

(10623, 'now simon calm down children can use this site so no need for the bad language.\r\npeople have a right to voice there opinions of what the heard on tudno and i think you owe snake corp an apology s if you read his previous postings he has been an ardent suporter of tudno fm.\r\nbut to answer a few of your rants from me.\r\n \r\nOver the last month, a great many people who\\''ve never had any experience in radio whatsoever, \r\nYes it take guts to get behind a mic but in all honestly one or two of the late show were very weak i love my dance music but this sounded like they were just playing round.\r\n\r\nThere\\''s a lot of stuff being spouted about community. For a minute, lets think about Community. Hang on a minute, the vast majority of presenters/researchers/volunteers are from the "Community" aren\\''t they. Many people from the "community" have just wandered into the studios out of curiosity and enquired about getting involved, only to find that they\\''re on the air the very next day\r\n\r\nThis may explain the above you can not just stick someone on air and expect them to present a show plus how many of your presenters and staff were from the area Tudno was serving a lot fewer than you make out.\r\n\r\n Didn\\''t we have a debate on about the windfarm too! -\r\nHasnt everbody something newer would have been good after all most that was said had been said before .\r\n\r\nAs for saying that we ignored potential volunteers, well, we emailed everyone or tried to contact a significant amount who registered through the website. Some came, some never, what can you do.\r\n\r\nEmailed or tried to which was it .\r\n\r\nIt\\''s quite funny seeing some of the comments quoting the amount of concurrent internet streams, especially the day after that particular subject was mentioned at the meeting Thursday night. Funny how that info appeared on this forum the day after. We know your source !! \r\n\r\nwhy was it not supposed to be disclosed, was the meeting a closed one\r\n\r\nWe had to go off-air due to regulations, and when we go back on is in the hands of the gods OFCOM. Hopefully, that won\\''t be too long, and when we go back on, we will have improved, learned, taken on board comments and criticisms, but we will not be bullied. Apathy FM indeed - I don\\''t think so! \r\n\r\nYou will get back after all you got at least 90% right and yes you will get better given time the majority of the shows were faultless as for the on line broadcast you can only have what you can pay for not your fault.\r\nGood luck for the future and a big well done to you and the others at Tudno fm'),

(10624, 'There\\''s only one Simon Owen....\r\n\r\nIf you\\''ve managed to wade through the inane chatter in the email....point made.....\r\nBad language and all....yes the email is a fair reflection of the output.\r\n\r\nNeed anyone say more !\r\n\r\nBut hang on.... a breakfast show better than Coast....so you are competing with the existing ILR station instead of providing a COMMUNITY breakfast programme. Well there we go again....foot/mouth. Your contribution...( and from a director )...has now been forwarded to OFCOM.\r\n\r\nLlechy'),

(10625, 'IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:\r\n\r\nA yellow card warning is issued to members BPM and Lady Llechwedd who have breached one or more of the following forum rules...\r\n\r\nContributions must be civil and tasteful \r\n\r\nNo disruptive, offensive or abusive behaviour: contributions must be constructive and polite, not mean-spirited or contributed with the intention of causing trouble. \r\n\r\nNo unlawful or objectionable content: unlawful, harassing, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, racially offensive or otherwise objectionable material is not acceptable. \r\n\r\nFailure to follow Administrative and Moderative direction at all times and obey their decisions without further question. \r\n\r\nNo spamming or off-topic material: we don\\''t allow the submission of the same or very similar contributions many times. Please don\\''t re-submit your contribution to more than one discussion, or contribute off-topic material in subject-specific areas.\r\n\r\n\r\nWARNINGS ISSUED TO: BPM, Lady Llechwedd.\r\n\r\nCan I advise BPM to refrain from any swearing in future posts, and Lady Llechwedd to refrain from posting to this Tudno FM topic in future, should you not wish to partake in one of our other categories or topics your membership may be revoked.\r\n\r\nFurthermore, individual comments made pointing towards Ian Turner as being a member or guise behind this forum are unfounded, and he will not be held accountable for the posts made here. Personal allegations including naming without sufficient evidence are not welcome in this forum and members are reminded of this.'),

(10626, 'Thanks for the reply pobo.  And my apologies for the language used, but i have been so incensed by the unjustified criticisms that have been posted on here, that i had to put my opinion across.  But hang on a minute, there\\''s a lot of things being said about what tudno haven\\''t done, and yes, everyone is entitled to their opinions and criticise, but, at least make them be fair criticisms rather than just an attack on the good work that\\''s already been done. We\\''ve had substantially more positive feedback than negative, and to be honest, the majority of the negative feedback has come from one source.\r\n\r\nMy anger was due to the complete lack of appreciation for the good work that had been put in by all involved.\r\n\r\nAnd as for saying that i said that we are competing with the ILR station, rather than offering a community breakfast show, well, i don\\''t recall saying that.  I said that we are on a par with it, or even better, that\\''s not competing, that\\''s just having a good presenter team for that particular show.  And that\\''s a team with people from the "community".  \r\n\r\nLike pobo said, we at least got about 90% right, and we\\''re going to make time to learn from our mistakes, listen to justified criticism and move onwards and upwards.\r\n\r\nSimon'),

(1405, 'It is good too know brian is well had many good nights in the washington when he had it  served the best pint of mild in town.\r\nAny one rember nial that worked behind bar i walked into a cafe in amsterdam a few years back and he was sat there he had a shop nearby.'),
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2011, 04:01:37 PM »
(1406, '
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It is good too know brian is well had many good nights in the washington when he had it  served the best pint of mild in town.\r\nAny one rember nial that worked behind bar i walked into a cafe in amsterdam a few years back and he was sat there he had a shop nearby.
\r\n\r\n\\''Hi peeps, sorry to be rude but can we please keep the reminiscing in the relevant sections of the forum, create a new topic if you wish or add to an existing topic in the memories lobby. Otherwise poor Terry is going to get confused. If we can keep this thread open for Terry\\''s research only.\\'''),

(13877, 'Extract from the BBC website by Lita Leyland - \r\n\r\n"Dare Devil Curly was my Father - he dived 65ft into a 6ft tank of flames. His last dive was in New Brighton at Whitsun in 1964. He was totally blind following removal of a Cerebral Tumour believed to have occurred due to the constant impact of the dives.\r\nDuring his final dive he incurred a fractured scapula and humerus, but also hit his head. He died less than six months later and on draining the tank months later, we found old bicycle frames, planks and bricks in the base, thought to have been thrown in by vandals. Thank you to the reader from Llandudno who remembered him."'),

(1449, '
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Thank you all. I know a little, about the nuns and Shimdda Hir etc but I get the feeling that there is more.  Ages ago I read a bit in a book in the library about it being built in 18 something or other by or for a fella who wrote some early guide book or pamphlet about Llandudno in it\\''s beginings.  But I\\''m blowed of I can recall his name.  Perhaps he was that Colonel ? \r\n
\r\n\r\nThat\\''s the bit I read! I was sure it was in the Llandudno: Queen of the Welsh Resorts book but I leafed through it again yesterday and couldn\\''t find any reference apart from a mention of the Roman coins discovered across the road from the Craigside Inn. \r\n\r\nI\\''ll keep on looking....\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1735, 'There was also another rockslide which killed a lady who just happened to be walking by with her daughter - they had decided to walk around the Orme. It was a millions to one chance that such a thing would happen, and a great tragedy. I think that was either very late 1980s or early 90s.'),

(10739, 'COOL DUDE EH 8) Can see some markings but cant decide on them, is it? 4 L Y   4 A L   or niether   I should av gone to specsavers.'),

(10740, '
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Early 1990\\''s\r\n\r\nIvories (Stella on draught)\r\nKings Arms (Christmas Ale)\r\nFlix (\\''K\\'' Cider)\r\nCross Keys (Guiness)\r\nPlumes "Short Cut" (in through the back door, buy short, down in one, and out through the front door)\r\nCottage Loaf (Depth Charge - Carlsburg and Creme de Menthe)\r\nBartons (IPA)\r\nRevivals (The beer there was like making love in a canoe)
\r\n\r\nMaking love in a canoe has just leapfrogged bungee jumping on my list of "things to do before I die."'),

(10610, 'Thank you - picture copied to Waverley Excursions for their information'),

(10611, 'I appreciate everyones comments here though I would not like to see Tudno FM become a target for negativity by my forum community. There is yes much gathering concern and i\\''m sure Tudno FM will address themselves in the coming days/weeks. It is important they have our continued support, and that does come in many forms including constructive criticism and feedback. During this transitional period I would expect this forum and the wider local community to give Tudno FM leeway so they have a clear course to sort out any issues they might have presently.'),

(10609, 'The on line service from Tudno Fm NOW is just a sustaining service to say " Hey we\\''re still here...just not on air at the moment ".\r\n\r\nIn fact the web "listen live" facility can only cope with 50 people at once and therefore one would imagine MOST presenters ( volunteers ) many with other jobs...couldn\\''t afford the time to keep broadcasting to just 50 people.\r\n\r\nHaving said that...it would seem that most of the time ( during the RSL )50 was probably the maximum audience anyway if they were lucky. To say it just didn\\''t take off is the under-statement of the decade.\r\n\r\nDuring the RSL many people tuned in for half an hour...heard back to back music and jingles with a sprinkling of inane chatter that could have been from anywhere in the world, THEN SWITCHED OFF. I WONDER HOW MANY REALISED THEY ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THIS INANE CHATTER via the Welsh Assembly public purse.\r\n\r\nCome on Llandudno ... get real...get motivated...and turn Tudno into a viable COMMUNITY radio station....YOUR radio station.\r\n\r\nCan this area afford to throw a quarter of a million pounds into an on air mobile disco with NO content. Perhaps Linda Groom\\''s Hospital Action Group could find some use for the dosh !! Just a thought...or what about 250 k for St David\\''s Hospice ???\r\n\r\nWell done to Hag by the way...and well done to Carole Marrubi who eventually got a well deserved mention in the Weekly News today.');


(1412, 'I know I`m not affected by it, but I dont think its that bad. Yes it does spoil the view a little, but I`d quite gladly swop living in the city(Nottingham) for by the sea, wind farms or not. I think they blend quite well, and look far better than a dirty big coal/nuclear power station nearby'),

(10629, 'I only managed to get to listen to Tudno FM online twice through March, so gave up on them eventually.  :('),


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Interesting photos - I wonder if anyone has managed to get onto the landing pontoon where the anglers go, to take photos of the actual damage to the fenders for our information.
\r\nSince it was such a lovely sunny day, I wandered down to the end of the pier to take a look. MP Marine are carrying out a lot of maintenance work underneath the main pierhead structure:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
As far as the Landing Stage goes, the large block of wood that holds the bottom of the fenders together appears to be hanging off and they are looking very ropey.
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(10600, 'Re Tudno\\''s homepage and "About Us " - the mission statement etc.\r\n\r\nWhat was written then ( some time ago )...didn\\''t materialise did it !\r\n\r\nYes we all know it was a long road in terms of preparation and planning, but the end product wasn\\''t / isn\\''t what it should be. \r\n\r\nBut it\\''s not too late...It\\''s YOUR radio station...for the sake of all the volunteers who are now fumbling in the dark.... take ownership and take an interest.\r\n\r\nIT CAN BE ACHIEVED... but there is the risk it could become APATHY FM.\r\nAsk all the other volunteers who offered to work behind the  scenes and provide all the much needed on air support. After the initial recruitment...did they hear from Tudno again....NO !\r\n\r\nWake up before it\\''s too late !! I gather many of the disgruntled presenters are meeting the "leadership" tonight . Perhaps they would like to take part in our little discussion and give some feedback.\r\n\r\nRegards to all\r\n\r\nLlechy'),

(10601, 'Looking at NWWN today, it does seem that what most detached observers have been saying for a while is correct: that the Hospital is very useful to political parties in the run up to elections of whatever sort. All four now seem to have had their own petitions but the only one I saw was the Gareth Jones/Action Group one.\r\n\r\nBy the way, don\\''t lets forget the quiet work done behind the scenes by the likes of Dr Oliver Galpin and Dr Khattak - who did attend the public meeting in the Town Hall which formed the action group. To say nothing of other folk who simply got on with organising things and helping at events.'),

(10602, 'Interesting photos - I wonder if anyone has managed to get onto the landing pontoon where the anglers go, to take photos of the actual damage to the fenders for our information.'),

(10603, 'So sorry to hear this sad news.  Dave was a regular on the site and we shared a love of genealogy and Llandudno.   Condolences to all the family  RIP Dave'),

(10604, 'Ah the good old days pop into the oak for happy hour from 5.30 till 8 on sat before doing the rounds over to the carlton  and the steampacket, tudno back around to cottage loaf onto tiffanys and the the super winter gardens to dance the night away happy times'),

(10606, 'Good arguement actually i thought you ment becuase they went offair so soon, sorry about that.\r\n\r\nBut yeh i have noticed that they did say they would be broadcasting as normal,  but it seems since they have gone off 87.7 its just plain music, i dont think it is live either. I might be going down to there studios on friday, asking about voulenteering, hopfully i will be able to. And i will try and pass a few of these comments on when i go down there.\r\n\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\nDaniel'),

(10627, 'Bye for now everyone....Her Ladyship is in school detention and can\\''t come out to play.\r\n\r\nNow what about the elections ??? \r\n\r\nC U soon \r\n\r\nLlechy'),

(10628, 'and we\\''re going to make time to learn from our mistakes, listen to justified criticism and move onwards and upwards. \r\n\r\nThat\\''s all anyone can do and to be honest I think Tudno fm has a very rosy future good luck to all involved.'),

(10599, '
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In a joint statement on March 28th, local hospital campaigners, Aberconwy AM Gareth Jones and Cllr Phil Edwards claimed victory for the people following an announcement from Welsh Health Minister, Edwina Hart AM, which secures the future of Llandudno as a functioning acute hopspital, and retains breast diagnosis, treatment and surgery services in Llandudno.\r\nUnder a new protocol, 70% of cardiac and stroke patients, some 2,500 people will also continue to be treated at Llandudno Hospital.
\r\nGood work from the Plaid Cymru boys. We should remember that when the time comes to boot out the useless Betty Williams.\r\nSC'),

(10594, '
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Snakecorps our photo man, have you any thoughts on these photographic anomolies? are they paranormal?
\r\nNo, they\\''re just bits of dust being illuminated by the flash on your camera.  :lol: \r\n\r\nSC'),

(10595, 'If you navigate to their home page then click "About Us", it gives you their mission statement, plus there are 23 frequently asked questions & answers relating to the station.'),

(10596, '
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Snakecorps our photo man, have you any thoughts on these photographic anomolies? are they paranormal?
\r\nNo, they\\''re just bits of dust being illuminated by the flash on your camera.  :lol: \r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nIs it dust on the camera lens or in the atmosphere? I am asking because I have seen photos of an outside event on a very cold and frosty night, where I didn\\''t think there would be any dust floating about, other photos taken on the same night inside and with the same camera didn\\''t have them on. Aww I am disappointed now, the thought of it being paranormal was exciting!  :lol:'),

(10597, 'In a joint statement on March 28th, local hospital campaigners, Aberconwy AM Gareth Jones and Cllr Phil Edwards claimed victory for the people following an announcement from Welsh Health Minister, Edwina Hart AM, which secures the future of Llandudno as a functioning acute hopspital, and retains breast diagnosis, treatment and surgery services in Llandudno.\r\nUnder a new protocol, 70% of cardiac and stroke patients, some 2,500 people will also continue to be treated at Llandudno Hospital.'),

(10598, 'I\\''ve been listening online to TudnoFM all morning and my question is...where are the presenters? It\\''s just back to back music! I thought they were continuing as normal, albeit broacasting only online?\r\n\r\nSC'),

(10593, 'Ok this is just my personal opinion based on my limited listening.\r\nWhat went well:-\r\nGot an organisation together in the first place\r\nGot the support\r\nGot the premises\r\nGot the funding\r\nGot a team of volunteers [I take it all broadcasters, tekkies, admin and tea makers are volunteers sorry if not]\r\nGot the license \r\nGot the station running\r\nTurned up at local events [based on personal witness down West Shore the other Sunday]\r\nDealt with no doubt tons of Brick walls, Tantrums, and Hissy fits and negative feedback.\r\nWhat needs attending to {maybe?} \r\nGetting the message out with more/targeted/better publicity\r\nRethink and rework the Website\r\nOnline listening\r\nTighter Scheduling \r\nCommunity events\r\nLocal news\r\nMore local involvement like Training sessions to anyone who would like to be involved in radio\r\nBe bolshie go into shops cafes etc and see if they are tuned in to Tudno. If not why not ask them to tune in and tell them you will give them a mention at this time tomorrow! And go back\r\n\r\nHappy to help, happy to mind my own business and shut up either way good luck.'),

(13898, 'A good point Trojan,now Anwyl want to demolish that part of the building & to rub salt into the wound they want to build an extra 4 flats on the site.'),

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Someone pointed out this strange box that has appeared on a post in Craig Y Don today. It\\''s not connected to any electricity supply. A man in an plain estate car arrived and installed it. My only thought is that it could be for housing some sort of recording equipment for those lines in the road that measure traffic flow but those are usually found on the floor, not six feet up on a pole?\r\n\r\nAnyone else know?
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\r\n\r\n I have been reliably informed that the box disappeared sometime yesterday !!  :roll:  '),

(10535, '
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So sorry to hear of Davids passing-  David worked for us (Lazars) for years, driving our furniture van etc. & being generally so helpful within the furniture dept.\r\n\r\nI seem to remember his wife was Linda & he had sons, do pass on my sincere sympathy, he was a great guy & always so respectful & nice with customers.\r\n\r\nSincerely, Vicki Lazar.\r\nLondon.
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(10536, 'if other providers are using BT lines, how is it that they can provide a faster service than BT themselves?'),

(10537, 'BT owns the exchanges throughout the country, they also own the lines which come right to your door. What differs with each service provider is their technologies which are housed within BT\\''s own exchanges, service providers lease lines off BT or signal slots in the transmission cable which interconnect between exchanges along high speed lines which eventually hook up to the internet backbone which runs up and down the length of the country. It is down to the individual ISP\\''s how much bandwidth they want to allocate to each household and so on. It\\''s quite complex and theres a lot more to it.'),

(10538, '
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I cannot thank you enough for just putting this triubute on your web site. I would like to thank all members on behalf of myself and my family for saying such nice comments. I know my dad would\\''ve loved his five minuites of fame, especially when it\\''s associated with llandudno.\r\n\r\nI am printing everything that\\''s posted and will be forwarding these on to my mum when she can get round to reading cards and tributes,\r\n\r\nOnce again... thank you.\r\n\r\nKind regards, David Hinton Junior.
'),

(11384, '
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Moved here 2 1/2 years and tis is what I have found\r\n1 Goats do my gardening - they love heges\r\n2 Had to phone the police twice both times due to hoodies sorry sheep in the road\r\n3 Dress in victorian gear and not get laught at in fact peoplewant to be pictured with you\r\n4 Never need a taxi to get home\r\n5 No shortage of places to eat\r\n6  Young goats make me smile\r\n7 Shops\r\n8 Venue Cymru\r\n9 Haulfre Gardens\r\n10 West Shore\r\nand I live just of upper Mostyn street
\r\n\r\nSome positive points there! :D'),

(10586, 'My condolences to Dave\\''s family.'),

(10587, 'just heard about the site at the funeral of Dave Hinton must say that it was a very moving tribute to Dave and Alun Barret just about summed every thing up. The attendance showed just how many people knew Dave and the world will be a sadder place without a true gentleman'),

(10590, 'We\\''ve lived next door to Dave + Linda for @ 8 years now and couldn\\''t have wished for a better neighbours\r\n\r\nAudrey and I  were really sorry to hear of Dave\\''s passing and will always be here for Linda in the future.\r\n\r\nI will really miss mine and Dave\\''s chats over the garden wall where we\\''d generally chat about our future holidays, our love of motorbikes, or put the world to rights and moan at all the bad in the world.  \r\n\r\nI know Dave will be missed by many if not every person who knew him, and even though he\\''d suffered various illnesses over the years, was always friendly, cheerful and never complained about his ailments.  \r\n\r\nAudrey and our 2 girls went to the Church for the service but unfortunately I had prior work commitments which couldn\\''t be cancelled and couldn\\''t attend - I\\''m sure Dave and Linda knew I was thinking of them.\r\n\r\nR.I.P Dave, you\\''ll be sadly missed..............'),

(10592, 'OFCOM\\''S take on Tudno...what Tudno promised :\r\n\r\nTudno FM (Llandudno, north Wales)\r\nThis group will run a bi-lingual station in English and Welsh in Llandudno and surrounding areas. This includes areas of significant social deprivation and two of the poorest wards in Wales. The directors have a range of relevant experience and the group is in a strong financial situation with existing studio facilities and sizeable secured funding (section 105(1a)). The group has a Welsh language policy and has conducted extensive research to help shape programming proposals which should therefore cater for the interests of the target community (1b). The group has formed strong links with local groups and organisations, including educational establishments, which will assist in the delivery of social gain such as training for the target community (1e). In addition its studio is within a community centre used by a number of community organisations which will help promote access to the service (1g).\r\n\r\nOFCOM\\''s blueprint for Community Radio :\r\n\r\nThe extent to which any proposed service would broaden the range of\r\n\r\nprogrammes available by way of local services to persons living in the area or\r\n\r\nlocality in which it would be provided, and, in particular, the extent to which\r\n\r\nthe service would be of a nature or have a content distinct from that of any\r\n\r\nother local service for which would overlap the licence for the proposed\r\n\r\nservice;\r\n\r\nSocial gain\r\n\r\n2.7 The first ‘characteristic of a community radio service’ set out in the Order is\r\n\r\nthat services are provided primarily “for the good of members of the public, or of\r\n\r\nparticular communities, and in order to deliver social gain”. Section 105(e) requires\r\n\r\nOfcom to take into account the extent to which the service would result in the delivery\r\n\r\nof social gain. The Community Radio Order 2004 defines ‘social gain’ as the\r\n\r\nachievement, in respect of individuals or groups of individuals in the target\r\n\r\ncommunity, or in respect of other members of the public, the following four\r\n\r\nmandatory social gain objectives:\r\n\r\n(a) the provision of sound broadcasting services to individuals who are otherwise\r\n\r\nunderserved by such services;\r\n\r\n(b) the facilitation of discussion and the expression of opinion;\r\n\r\n(c) the provision of education or training to individuals not employed by the\r\n\r\nperson providing the service; and\r\n\r\n(d) the better understanding of the particular community and the strengthening of\r\n\r\nlinks within it.'),

(10497, 'is the beach normally more sandy on the north coast? i seem to rememeber reading something last year about the stones not being taken off the beach as normal...(and the donkeys were struggling!)'),

(10498, 'What the beach needs is a good dredging to separate stones/pebbles from the sand, the stones are mixed in everywhere and there is generally a poor texture, the beach was much sandier and sorted in the early 90\\''s.'),

(10501, 'This may come as a shock to members of our forum community here, but sadly one of our members passed away last week, \\''DaveHinton\\''. I had the kind pleasure of meeting David in person during the Heritage Centre Opening days at the Tabernacl Church where I held an open exhibition. He was very enthusiastic about the work Llandudno Enthusiasts is doing made a generous donation toward our cause.\r\n\r\nDavid has been a popular member of the forum and during his time with us has made 95 posts in total. One of his favourite sections being the \\''Times Past\\'' where members can reminisce good old times. Although sadly, David has passed, his memories will live on preserved here in the forum through some of his posts, and i\\''m sure people locally with have fond memories of their own and you are more than welcome to share them with us.

(10502, 'This is the latest update as reported on North Wales Weekly News\\'' icnorthwales.co.uk website...\r\n\r\n
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WINDS SCUPPER LLANDUDNO STEAMER SAILINGS\r\nby Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News\r\n  \r\nHOPES of steamer sailings from Llandudno pier this summer have been scuppered after the fenders which are vital to ships being able to dock were destroyed in the weekend gales.\r\n\r\nIt will be the second year in succession that the sailings by the vintage steamer Balmoral have had to be cancelled because of problems with the fenders.\r\n\r\nLast year they were deemed to be in such poor repair they needed replacing, but the pier’s owners Six Piers said they were unable to meet the estimated £70,000 cost.\r\n\r\nAs a result, passengers who had booked cruises were taken by coach to and from Menai Bridge and Mostyn where they were able to board and disembark.\r\n\r\nTown councillors were alarmed that the loss of the sailings would impact on the tourist trade, and at one point Conwy County Council looked set to step in with a contribution towards the cost of the repairs, but that fell through after opposition from some councillors who said it wasn’t right for the council to subsidise a private business.\r\n \r\nNegotiations have been ongoing to try to get the work done this year but that now seems impossible.\r\n\r\n“The damaged fenders have now been ripped away completely as a result of the weekend’s stormy weather and the chances of getting them replaced for this season are very slim,” said pier manager Simon Mason.\r\n\r\nThe pier suffered other damage as a result of storm force northerly winds combined with a very high tide and priority will have to be given to those repairs, he said.\r\n\r\n“The steel storm grates at the Happy Valley Road entrance were destroyed and as a result an area of decking was ripped apart. The storm also burst the water main and damaged the electrics and we had to close the pier for half of Saturday until we could make the area safe,” he explained.\r\n\r\nThe news that the sailings will have to be abandoned alarmed town councillor Philip Evans.\r\n\r\n“The Balmoral is important to the tourist industry because it brings in thousands of tourists, and this year the Waverley company which owns it had hoped to put on more sailings to link with Liverpool being European City of Culture.\r\n\r\n“Trips to Liverpool to see the Tall Ships and the QE2 on her last voyage were planned so it will be very disappointing if those can’t happen,” he said.
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(10489, 'Thanks for the update Welsh1. \r\n\r\nGood to hear you\\''re doing well Jaffas. Rico.')
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(10491, 'Its nice to know the donkeys will be back on the sands this summer. I happened to be in Llandudno on the day of the funeral and watched the hearse drive down the prom with two little donkeys trotting in front.'),

(10492, '-no more retail development, Parc Llandudno is already one development too many\r\n\r\nSympathetic refurbishment of town centre with some compromise between car use and pedestrianisation.\r\n\r\nEcologically sound redevelopment of the West shore area and more use of its wide open spaces \r\n\r\nPromotion of Llandudno as a walkers paradise with refurbishment of old building, paths and picnic spots on and around the Orme\r\n\r\nPen Morfa to remain standing!'),

(10494, 'My predictions are as follows...\r\n\r\n5-10 years from now, residents of the housing estate opposite ASDA will be forced to move, the area will be flattened to make way for a super shopping complex adjoining Parc Llandudno and Mostyn Champneys.\r\n\r\n5-10 years from now, fields surrounding the edge of Llandudno with the exception of Bodafon will be consumed to make way for more housing development.\r\n\r\n5 years from now, 75% of the local work force in the hospitality industry will be accounted for by european immigrants, low wages and spiralling local house prices will make living in Llandudno unaffordable driving local people away from the town, the degradation in the industry will see the demisce of our tourist based economy as traditional long-stays fall to shorter weekend visits but our retail economy will continue to boom.\r\n\r\nThe next 10 years, the Pavilion site will remain untouched, and continue to tarnish this town.\r\n\r\n10,000 years from now, global warming attributed to rising sea levels will see Llandudno fall beneath the waves.'),

(6050, '
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 A fellow workmate of mine took part for the first time ever in a drama club, they performed "Calamity Jane" to full houses, great reviews etc.
\r\nGerald, I bet Llandudno Musical Productions wish they DID perform to full houses for every performance then they wouldn\\''t have made a loss of £5,000, as reported in this week\\''s North Wales Weekly News.\r\n\r\nHowever, I did go and see Calamity Jane myself and enjoyed it very much.\r\n\r\nP.S. - I knew it was either C&B or L&L  :lol: \r\n\r\nP.P.S. - Ken Dodd can\\''t be on for a whole week !! \r\n\r\nSurely, those are two separate performances?  :? '),

(1425, 'We want your views on Llandudno\\''s Hospitality Industry said to be the \\''bread and butter\\'' for many in this town, do you work in a hotel, do you believe the industry pays a fair wage which reflects that of rising house prices and living costs? What do the guests think about the service standards since hundreds of thousand european immigrants have flocked into the country speaking none or little english which many hotels now employ. Are the hoteliers reaping in the profits and treating you like ten a penny. Perhaps you are a hotelier, or run a small family B&B. What do you think of the role the Hoterliers Association plays and its values? We want to know your thoughts.\r\n\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1428, 'Please can anyone tell me anything about the history of Craigside Inn and the Craigside area of LLandudno.  Thank you.  Berenice.'),

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Please can anyone tell me anything about the history of Craigside Inn and the Craigside area of LLandudno.  Thank you.  Berenice.
\r\n\r\nOff the top of my head....Craigside Inn was originally a house called Shimdda Hir, built by a Colonel ? . It later became a convent until the nuns left in the 1980s, when it was bought by Whitbread and opened as the Craigside Inn. The house behind the overflow car park was originally the stables building to Shimdda Hir , I think?\r\n\r\nThere\\''s more about it in a book about Llandudno but I can\\''t remember which book it is! Maybe Llandudno: Queen of the Welsh Resorts?\r\n\r\nIf I remember any more or can dig anything up, I\\''ll post some more.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(13890, 'There is nothing wrong with the way Anwyl have operated,but the point I was trying to make  was that Anwyl did not own Pen Morfa until after  planning permission was granted & the contracts exchanged. Up to that point Mr Fernando was the legal owner of the property. \r\n Are you saying that this is incorrect?'),

(10124, '
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Hi Trojan I have just met your Mum and Dad at the Tabernacl Heritage Centre. Very nice people. \r\nJust to let you know as you are so far away.
\r\n\r\nI had an idea they would be along, as I told them about the St David\\''s day lunch time lecture at the Tabernacl.  :P'),

(1433, 'From BBC website:\r\n\r\nCable car death inquest is opened\r\n\r\nAn inquest has been opened on a Polish woman who died when she fell 100 ft from a cable car cabin at Llandudno on Good Friday.\r\n\r\nMaya Romana Limanowska-Rance, who was 33, died when she fell from the cabin above the Great Orme headland. Police have said they are not treating the death of Ms Limanowska-Rance, who lived at a flat in Augusta Street in Llandudno, as suspicious. The Health and Safety Executive has also been informed.\r\n\r\nMs Limanowska-Rance was travelling alone when she fell from the cable car at 1100 BST on Friday. Coroner John Hughes adjourned the inquest on Tuesday after hearing that she has suffered multiple injuries. \r\n\r\nAll very sad.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1445, 'Thank you all. I know a little, about the nuns and Shimdda Hir etc but I get the feeling that there is more.  Ages ago I read a bit in a book in the library about it being built in 18 something or other by or for a fella who wrote some early guide book or pamphlet about Llandudno in it\\''s beginings.  But I\\''m blowed of I can recall his name.  Perhaps he was that Colonel ? \r\n\r\nAlso I heard something about it being in a family named Holden (I think) for several generations and I\\''d like to know more about them.\r\n\r\nBerenice.'),

(1440, 'Wasnt the house  the abbey used by the fransican monks'),

(1441, 'Hi, we know someone who lives in that area and his family before him but we wont see him for a week but we will ask him   so will get back to you with info then.'),

(1442, '
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Not many people know of the 18 hole golf course which was built in 1909 adjoining the Summit Hotel, this later closed in 1939. If it\\''s been a few years since you last climbed the Summit, there is a new mini crazy golf course which is quite fun.
\r\n\r\nI myself only remember the golf course where the ski slope now is. However the crazy golf up the summit is good fun for the family, and is a good place for the family to take a picnic on a summers day.'),

(1443, '
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From BBC website:\r\n\r\nMaya Romana Limanowska-Rance, who was 33, died when she fell from the cabin above the Great Orme headland. Police have said they are not treating the death of Ms Limanowska-Rance, who lived at a flat in Augusta Street in Llandudno, as suspicious. The Health and Safety Executive has also been informed.\r\nAll very sad.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nShe was a very good close friend who will be sadly missed. My thoughts go out to her family. God bless you Maya.'),

(1444, '
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Richard, was it Tony Burton?
\r\n\r\nI remember Tony Burton, what a character, he used to walk a bit hunched on account of being a proper binman, when they used to lug cast iron bins over thier shoulders, It always amazed me how they lifted those heavy bins when they were full.'),

(1452, 'Hi\r\n\r\nI recently photographed a Victorian Pillar Box on my walk from the Tramway Station to the carpark on Gloddaeth Street - see it at
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\r\nUnfortunately I have lost my note on its exact location and would be grateful if SKS on the forum could identify it for me\r\nThanks\r\n\r\nMidland Red\r\nWarwickshire'),

(1453, '
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Hi\r\n\r\nI recently photographed a Victorian Pillar Box on my walk from the Tramway Station to the carpark on Gloddaeth Street - see it at\r\nhttp://postandtelephoneboxes.fotopic.net/p40306988.html\r\nUnfortunately I have lost my note on its exact location and would be grateful if SKS on the forum could identify it for me\r\nThanks\r\n\r\nMidland Red\r\nWarwickshire
\r\n\r\nIt\\''s on Abbey Road.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(1454, 'hi, Its on the corner of Abbey Road and Clement Ave and its not victorian sorry, the only victorian one is on the prom outside the Queens  Hotel as you can u will see by its design.'),
(1455, 'Whoops ,what i meant to say was not that its not from the Victorian Era but the one by the Queens is known to locals as the Victorian Pillar Box!'),
(1456, ':D \r\n\r\nThanks for the info - I thought that\\''s where it is but I needed to check\r\n\r\nMidland Red'),

(1457, 'I Midland, I was fortunate to have a talk presented to me when I last attended the North Wales Postcard Club on Post Boxes and Postal History. There is a very interesting box on the Promenade front which it is said there are only 2 or 3 of them making it of special interest. Have you checked that one out?'),

(1458, 'Isnt that the one im talking about outside the Queens Hotel?'),

(1459, '
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Isnt that the one im talking about outside the Queens Hotel?
\r\n\r\nYes I think it is somewhere roughly around there, it certainly is a rarity though. Unfortunately many UK postboxes have come under the eyes of thieves in recent years and are being sold on ebay upwards of £2,500.\r\n\r\nThere was a recent news article published on the Daily Post website about one being taken from Llanbedr Dyffryn Clwyd only recently. See web link below.\r\n\r\n
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(1460, 'Have just had a chinese takeaway and it got me thinking about Leun Hong.  It was the best chinese restaurant, I must agree.  He did look forbidable, didn\\''t he, Mr Wan, stood behind the till looking over proceedings.  When spoken to, however, he used to break into a smile, especially when told how much you had enjoyed the meal, and as he was taking your money!!  I used to have difficulty in knowing what he was saying!  I remember the waitress with long hair - sure I saw her recently.  I absolutely loved the beef curry with boiled rice and prawn crackers - gorgeous!  Good memories as I used to go there with my mum, who is no longer with us, bless her, and used to have some enjoyable evenings there on girls nights out.'),

(1461, 'I worked in Sumners on Mostyn Street during the holidays and used to work behind the bread and cake counter, or sometimes in the sweet shop next door.  That was a great place, so much character now gone.  The sweeping staircase and lots of `olde worlde\\'' sections to it - the restaurant, the bar, etc, and the waitresses wore starch black and white.  The bread and cakes were fabulous and I always enjoyed break times as we could take a cake to eat with our tea or coffee, yum!  Mrs Bleakley was in charge and I used to be a little in awe of her, but although she was strict, she was kind.  There was also David Bleakley, her son.   Can anyone jog my memory with names of staff, some of whom were there for years and were quite old when they left.  I remember Paul who used to work opposite the bread counter.  I worked there when decimalisation came in - fun and games at the time.  We spent more time trying to sort it all out than selling our wares!  Does anyone have any photos of Sumners?'),

(1462, 'Anyone remember Liptons Cafe?  Liptons foods was downstairs and the cafe was upstairs, which was self service.  A lady with blond hair always in a bun was the manageress, and is still around as far as I know.'),

(1463, 'I remember a small Fortes Cafe near where the Oriental Stores was - it was a kind of spin off from the main one further up Mostyn Street, more of an icecream parlour than a cafe.  What was the history on this?  I am getting very melancholy now thinking of times past!'),

(1464, 'Was Frank Carnell the same person who lived in Rhos and raised  a lot of money for the heart foundation after he had a heart attack many years ago.  He died in the last year or two.'),

(1466, 'I am in total agreement with you, Craig, and it is not just people who work in hotels, it applies to shop workers and office workers too.  People who have good skills and qualifications, and take on responsibilityand the stress that goes with it, yet earn such low wages.  Not everyone wants to join the nursing profession or the teaching profession, or join the police or the fire service, etc, all of whom earn a fairly decent wage, yet if you don\\''t, you have no chance whatsoever.   \r\n\r\nHoteliers are taking on eastern european staff because they want to make money by paying the minimum wage possible.  They say it is because local people don\\''t want the jobs.  Can you blame them? I\\''ve known of one or two people working in hotels and they say it is too much like hard work for absolute pittance.'),

(1467, 'Everything is turned into flats, and more flats.  Before long, Llandudno and surrounding areas will be fine if you can afford expensive accommodation, and if you want to shop, grand, but there will hardly be anything else.  At least we will have a new pool....\r\n\r\nLook at Rhos - the open air swimming pool was great and so popular in its time.  I have great memories of it.  So much could have been made of it, perhaps a dome could have been built to use in bad weather.  The Rhos Abbey was turned into flats, the Colwyn Bay Hotel suffered the same fate, and the Colwyn Bay Pier is an absolute eysore.  Couldn\\''t the local community pull together on an Anneka Rice type project and do something?\r\n\r\nI think new `blood\\'' on the councils is called for.'),

(1469, 'I think the main problem with Llandudno is that it seems to be losing its grasp of its "market". If for example you were running it as a business. you`d say that tourism was your major earner, but then which group of tourists do you want to attract ? \r\n\r\nI think there used to be a tendancy long ago to go on holiday to where your parents went, which meant the same areas got new influxes every generation. That now doesnt seem to be the case, as with cheap transport the younger generations can find it cheaper to go abroad rather then stay here. That means local resorts are more likely to hang onto their current generation of toursits but aren`t replacing them. Therefore until you identify a new market, you are spending money on people who are going to come back anyway.\r\n\r\nI think the town needs a Unique Selling Point and needs to market that to a new group of tourists, and make sure they keep coming back. However do the younger generations just want to go to the sun and sit their for two weeks ? I dont think so. However I think a good marketing person ought to be employed (yes paid) by the Council with the brief of "get the tourists back"'),

(1470, 'Your mention of \\''get the tourists back\\'' raised a smile from me. Llandudno is full to the seams with tourists! I went for a walk along the Pier on Wednesday and it was absolutely packed out. Same on the Promenade, same in the town itself. There certainly isn\\''t any problem in attracting people to the town.\r\n\r\nA problem that definitely needs addressing, however, is the low standards in many of Llandudno\\''s hotels. Try reading some of these reviews:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d316406-Reviews-Baytree_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d497963-Reviews-Elsinore_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d279914-Reviews-Kensington_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d194125-Reviews-The_Risboro_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\n\r\nSC'),

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Your mention of \\''get the tourists back\\'' raised a smile from me. Llandudno is full to the seams with tourists! I went for a walk along the Pier on Wednesday and it was absolutely packed out. Same on the Promenade, same in the town itself. There certainly isn\\''t any problem in attracting people to the town.\r\n\r\nA problem that definitely needs addressing, however, is the low standards in many of Llandudno\\''s hotels. Try reading some of these reviews:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d316406-Reviews-Baytree_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d497963-Reviews-Elsinore_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d279914-Reviews-Kensington_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\nhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d194125-Reviews-The_Risboro_Hotel-Llandudno_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nThanks for that SnakeCorp, may those mentioned be named and shamed!'),

(1472, 'I have to disagree with you Life\\''s a trip.\r\ni am currently a student nurse and the pay as a qualified nurse is crap compared to what we do. i often get patients asking me how i can do what i do as its not as easy as everyone makes out. The only way you can get a decent wage is if you are a matron or manager even a nurse specialist. Not only that but alot of nurses have lost there jobs so the ones who are still working have to pick up the slack so patients dont suffer.\r\nManagers of mcdonalds get more then we do and so do alot of jobs come to think of it.\r\nDont get me wrong i dont agree with the wages for other professions they are crap too i mean the price of petrol has gone up the price of food is going up in fact all costs are going up but do wages represent this NO\r\nIts about time that the government has a look at the situation we zre getting into because everyone is being affected\r\nSarah'),

(1473, '
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I remember a small Fortes Cafe near where the Oriental Stores was - it was a kind of spin off from the main one further up Mostyn Street, more of an icecream parlour than a cafe.  What was the history on this?  I am getting very melancholy now thinking of times past!
\r\n\r\nThe Forte family used to have a number of smaller cafes, including the one down by Oriental Stores and the one in Craig Y Don (next to Peters Hifi - now the BayGrill2). They also used to have quite a few ice cream kiosks (one next to the Carlton, one on the corner of Bodafon fields etc) but they seem to have scaled back their operations in favour of the main cafes in Llandudno/Rhos and the ice cream factory in Craig Y Don.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1474, '
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they seem to have scaled back their operations in favour of the main cafes in Llandudno/Rhos and the ice cream factory in Craig Y Don.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nWhat theres an ice cream factory in Craig-y-Don, where abouts?\r\n\r\nCraig.'),

(1475, '
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they seem to have scaled back their operations in favour of the main cafes in Llandudno/Rhos and the ice cream factory in Craig Y Don.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nWhat theres an ice cream factory in Craig-y-Don, where abouts?\r\n\r\nCraig.
\r\n\r\n43 Mostyn Avenue, across the road from Le Gatte. Looks like an old chapel but has a Fortes sign above the door.\r\n\r\nSC'),

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Hi Rosa,\r\nMines an 11th Edition, bit tatty but readable  :) Its my little charity shop treasure\r\nKate
\r\n\r\nI\\''ve just put a bid on ebay for the same edition as yours Kate, I dont know if i\\''ll win it or have it before the walk on Thursday, wish me luck.\r\n\r\nP.S.
anyone else reading this message that outbids me and wins it, i\\''ll name and shame you on here!!! :D \\''just kiddin\\''.\r\n\r\nCraig.'),

(1477, '
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I Midland, I was fortunate to have a talk presented to me when I last attended the North Wales Postcard Club on Post Boxes and Postal History. There is a very interesting box on the Promenade front which it is said there are only 2 or 3 of them making it of special interest. Have you checked that one out?
\r\n\r\nHi\r\nThanks for that - yes, I did and it\\''s amongst my photos at\r\nhttp://postandtelephoneboxes.fotopic.net/\r\nI have just uploaded my photos taken over Easter, which include a collection taken at Llandudno - see them at\r\nhttp://cliffjonesphotogallery.fotopic.net/\r\nThe Great Orme Tramway photos are at\r\nhttp://busesandtramsbycliffjones.fotopic.net/\r\nHope you enjoy them, and thanks for your help\r\n\r\nRgds\r\n\r\nMidland Red\

(1478, 'Hello from a new member\r\n\r\n"Llandudno Enthusiast" describes me exactly - lots of family holidays there in the 1960s and early 1970s, and many visits since. This site and forum seem to be an excellent idea!\r\n\r\nJust wondered about the Happy Valley Entertainers and the stage. I recall this from the early 1970s, and I see there is a photograph from 1979. Does anyone know when this closed down - and what the last "performances" were?\r\n\r\nRegards\r\n \r\nT-L'),

(7916, 'Hi,\r\nIf it\\''s any help Arthurs Drapers was the name of the dept store before Clare\\''s, they sold their stock at the end of 1926. Wonder if the sign was not changed?'),

(7917, 'Hi, yes it could well be that. The postcard was posted 1928 so would have been photographed earlier. I always got Clares and Arnolds mixed up!'),

(6396, 'I bought the 2002 edition from the reduced price book shop near Ponden Mill shop back in April for about £6.99 brand new for my lady visitor from America to take home.\r\nI paid £15.00 for a mint copy of the old version in Colwyn Bay about 5 years ago as the one I had is held together with an elastic band.\r\nOur House is mentioned in both copies.'),

(6393, 'Does anyone remember a very well known local pianist, the late Peggy Pearson? I think she liked a ciggie and a drink, but I might be wrong. She was a real charcter. I think she had a trio called \\''The Peggy Pearson Trio (what else would it be called?).'),
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2011, 04:02:36 PM »
(10123, 'Yes defo 1976, the long hot summer! I had just finished working there as a part time cleaner at night to make my wages up,  Mrs Rooney was our supervisor then, and probably still worked there when the fire happened. My sister also worked there at the time. Thousand of pounds in burnt notes were passed around, taken to other towns because local shops stopped taking the notes. Council Street  kids spent hours cleaning coins in wet sand in their back yards. Oh happy days!!!!'),
(1484, 'My two sisters in law and cousin, all being nurses, would also disagree with me, in fact my cousin would `lynch\\'' me!  She is a Ward Sister in the Manor Hospital in Birmingham, and being the culture as it is, some of the things she has to `endure\\'' are nurses who are employed with limited knowlege of the english language, therefore she finds it quicker to do their tasks herself on top of her own work load, and patients who click their fingers, continually ring the buzzers, and demand instant attention.\r\n\r\nNote that I did only say `fairly\\'' well paid!'),
(1485, '
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Hello from a new member\r\n\r\n"Llandudno Enthusiast" describes me exactly - lots of family holidays there in the 1960s and early 1970s, and many visits since. This site and forum seem to be an excellent idea!\r\n\r\nJust wondered about the Happy Valley Entertainers and the stage. I recall this from the early 1970s, and I see there is a photograph from 1979. Does anyone know when this closed down - and what the last "performances" were?\r\n\r\nRegards\r\n \r\nT-L
\r\n\r\nGoing on the info kindly supplied by Anna-Marie Munro in the other thread about her Father (which is well worth a read):\r\n\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=43&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=6bf63e96cf8cd5800452a3b14a18dcc4\r\n\r\n...the last show was in Summer 1985 and featured Alex Munro.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(1486, 'When Anna-Marie returns, I\\''d like to ask her for her thoughts on:\r\n\r\nWould the shows at the Happy Valley & Pavilion have continued if your Father had not become unwell? \r\n\r\nHad audiences remained constant in the final years or were there any signs of decline/growth? \r\n\r\nWould a similar sort of show to the Happy Valley Entertainers (but maybe weekends only) be viable today?\r\n\r\nMany thanks,\r\nDave'),
(6391, 'I\\''d completely forgotten about the hearing tests at Stella Maris, wow, memories. I remember the nit nurse and the clean hand/finger nail inspections, with us all standing in a line.\r\n\r\nI remember watching \\''Bambi\\'' in the main hall. That bit when Bambi\\''s mum got killed made me cry.\r\n\r\nWho remembers a teacher called Ann Smedley?'),
(6392, 'Who remember\\''s \\''SLADE\\'' playing at the Old Hall? Around the same time they appeared George turned down Marc Bolan because he was too expensive. Then there was the regular appearence by \\''JIGSAW\\'' who had a No. 9 hit with \\''Sky High\\''.\r\n\r\nI remember talking to Welsh TV personality Arfon Haines Davies by the burger counter one night, and reminded him of his nick name \\'' Big A from Colwyn Bay\\'' (yes, Arfon is from Colwyn Bay).'),
(1489, 'hi, bumped into our friend who told us that it was first a statetly home and then a restaurant, then he said it was a convent then a restaurant as it is now today, he thinks hes got it in the right order. Over the mountain at the back of the Craigside Inn there is Shimdda - Hir cottages which were part of the estate.'),
(1490, 'Sumners, Yes there egg rolls were the BEST!!!');
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(8240, 'The Astra in Llandudno had one of the very best theatre organ installations in the land. In its time it was played by some of the most well known theatre organists including: Harold Ramsay (who opened it in 1935), Reginald Dixon, Reginald Foort, Reginald Porter-Brown, Sandy MacPherson, Robinson Cleaver, Brian Sharp, Ernest Broadbent,  Hector Olivera, Rob Calcuterra, William Davies, Norman Scott, Roy Bentley (who was the General Manager of Hutchinson\\''s Leisure Services) Stan Ryder, and (harumphh) Quentin Bellamy.  :wink: \r\n\r\nThe last Resident Organist was Ken James. \r\n\r\nHere is the organ\\''s specification:\r\n\r\nAstra Cinema, Llandudno\r\n(1935 - 1989)\r\n\r\nSPECIFICATION OF THE "CHRISTIE" CINEMA ORGAN\r\n\r\nBuilt by Messrs William Hill & Son and Norman and Beard Ltd\r\n\r\n(removed in the Spring of 1987 and subsequently destroyed by fire) \r\n\r\nThree manuals CC-c (61 notes) and pedals CCC-g (32 notes)\r\nEight fully unified ranks and a full complement of tonal and non-tonal\r\npercussions\r\n\r\nPEDAL ORGAN \r\n\r\n21 Stopkeys\r\n3 Couplers and Cancellation Bar\r\n\r\n32    Acoustic Bass (7ranks)\r\n16   Tuba Horn\r\n16   Open Diapason\r\n16   Tibia Clausa\r\n  8   Tuba Horn\r\n  8   French Trumpet\r\n  8   Octave\r\n  8   Tibia Clausa\r\n  8   Strings\r\n  8   Concert Flute\r\n  4   Super Octave\r\n  4   Tibia Clausa \r\n\r\nBass Drum Roll\r\nSnare Drum Roll\r\nBass Drum Tap FF   2nd Touch\r\nBass Drum Tap PP   2nd Touch\r\nCymbal Stroke      2nd Touch\r\nCymbal Roll      2nd Touch\r\nCymbal Crash      2nd Touch\r\nTolling Bell      2nd Touch\r\nTriangle         2nd Touch\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nAccompaniment to Pedal\r\nGreat to Pedal\r\nSolo to Pedal\r\n\r\nSwitch to Pedal 2nd Touch percussions to 1st Touch\r\n\r\n\r\nACCOMPANIMENT ORGAN\r\n\r\n29 Stopkeys\r\n2 Couplers and cancellation bar\r\n\r\n16    Vox Humana    TC\r\n16   String       TC\r\n16    Concert Flute   TC\r\n 8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Vox Humana\r\n8   Clarinet (synthetic)\r\n8   Saxophone (synthetic)\r\n8   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n8   Celestes\r\n8   Concert Flute\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Vox Humana\r\n4   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n4   Concert Flute\r\n2 2/3   Flute Twelfth\r\n2   Flautina\r\n\r\n4   Chrysoglott (37 notes)\r\n   Vibraphone\r\n\r\nSnare Drum Roll\r\nTriangle\r\nCymbal Stroke\r\nChinese Block (Re-iterating)\r\nCastanets\r\nTambourine\r\nTom-Tom\r\nSand Block\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nSolo to Accompaniment\r\nOctave\r\n\r\nAccompaniment Cancel Bar\r\n\r\nACCOMPANIMENT 2ND TOUCH\r\n\r\n8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n2   Tibia Clausa\r\nBird Whistle\r\nSolo to Accompaniment (2nd)\r\nGreat 4\\'' to Accomp   (2nd)\r\n\r\nGREAT ORGAN\r\n\r\n16   Tuba Horn   TC\r\n16   French Trumpet   TC\r\n16   Open Diapason\r\n16    Vox Humana    TC\r\n16    Concert Flute   TC\r\n8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   Vox Humana\r\n8   Clarinet (synthetic)\r\n8   Saxophone (synthetic)\r\n8   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n8   Celestes\r\n8   Concert Flute\r\n4   Tuba Horn\r\n4   French Trumpet\r\n4   Octave\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Vox Humana\r\n4   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n4   Celestes\r\n4   Concert Flute\r\n2 2/3   Tibia Twelfth\r\n2   Tibia Piccolo\r\n2   Salicet\r\n2   Flautina\r\n1 3/5   Flute Tierce\r\n\r\n4   Xylophone Tap     (37 notes)\r\n   Xylophone Re-iterate\r\n4   Glockenspiel   (37 notes)\r\n   Orchestral Bells\r\n   Chrysoglott\r\n   Vibraphone\r\n   Carillon       (25 notes)\r\n   Chimes      (17 notes)\r\n   Chimes Mute\r\n   Sleigh Bells\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nSolo Sub Octave to Great\r\nSub Octave\r\nUnison Off\r\nOctave\r\n\r\nGreat Cancellation Bar\r\n\r\nSECOND TOUCH\r\n\r\n16   Tuba Horn\r\n16   French Trumpet   TC\r\n16   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n\r\nSOLO ORGAN\r\n\r\n24 Stopkeys\r\n6 Couplers plus Solo Cancel\r\n\r\n\r\n16   Tuba Horn   \r\n16   Open Diapason\r\n16   Tibia Clausa\r\n16    Vox Humana    TC\r\n8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   Vox Humana\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Clarinet (synthetic)\r\n8   Saxophone (synthetic)\r\n4   Tuba Horn\r\n4   French Trumpet\r\n4   Octave\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Vox Humana\r\n\r\n4   Xylophone Tap     (37 notes)\r\n   Xylophone Re-iterate\r\n4   Glockenspiel   (37 notes)\r\n   Orchestral Bells\r\n   Chrysoglott\r\n   Vibraphone\r\n   Carillon       (25 notes)\r\n   Chimes      (17 notes)\r\n   Chimes Mute\r\n   Sleigh Bells\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nAccompaniment to Solo\r\nSub Octave\r\nUnison Off\r\nOctave\r\n\r\nSolo Cancellation Bar\r\n\r\nEFFECTS\r\n\r\nSurf\r\nCymbal Roll\r\nSyren\r\nBoat Whistle\r\nFire Bell\r\nDrums Crash\r\nTelephone Bell\r\nBirds\r\nCar Horn\r\nTelephone Bell\r\nKlaxon\r\nAeroplane\r\n\r\nTREMULANTS\r\n\r\nTuba\r\nTibia\r\nVox Humana\r\nMain\r\n\r\nACCESORIES\r\n\r\n5 Toe pistons to Pedal\r\nTen Thumb Pistons to Accompaniment\r\nTen Thumb Pistons to Great\r\nTen Thumb Pistons to Solo\r\nChrysoglott Damper\r\nRocker Tablet to Cymbal Stroke/Crash (accompaniment key cheek)\r\nExpression Pedals to Main and Solo Chambers\r\nExpression Pedal Coupler\r\nGeneral Crescendo Pedal\r\nIlluminated stop-key console on lift in centre of orchestra pit'),
(1492, 'We want to know your thoughts. \r\n\r\n\r\nI daren\\''t post in these at the moment as I am in the throes of a violent argument with Visit Wales( the old Wales Tourist Board )over their treatment of and attitude towards people who are trying their best to make an honest living by running a small Guest House. I would probably end up in court if I voiced my opinion of them.'),
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100 GOLD FORUM POINTS AWARDED TO MICOX, SUPERB POST INDEED, LOVED IT!\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nI totally agree with you, I loved reading that post with interest, true grit and honesty.  Well I could talk for ages about my school days, so I will do one school at a time, first was Stella Maris Primary school. I was never bursting with confidence, although I did have a knack of being a popular boy. My best mate at this time was John Williams from cwm place, I later hung around with  Tim Boote, Carl Anthony Jones, Peter Rowlands, Paul Rowlands, Joseph Lynch, and Martin Canning.  I hated school, I did well in my class, but was very shy around people. I had my favourite teachers, Sister Martine, Miss Thomas and miss owen, but was terified of miss hughes, miss briggs, and mmr Jones. Also a miss thorn. I often got the job of looking after the class pet in the holidays. A hamster some years, other times a budgie. I remember taking home a budgie, and introducing it into the cage of my own budgie. They fought and the school budgie ended up with a cut wing.\r\n   \r\n       I found all the work hard, I always remember going up to the teacher to get work marked, and sticking a pencil into my hand out of nervousness.  We had school mass etc, I alway got picked to do readings, I never got bullied here, but my confidence was always low. School uniform was a nightmare. I was the only one that wore a grey shirt, immaculately ironed to make it so uncomfortable all day. ANd that awful grey mackintosh. What was my mum thinking? I remember the headmistress Sister Aidrian, you never ever wanted to be sent to her office. But there was one good thing. School dinners, served by my aunty pat, I actually had 6 helpings of samolina one day, no wonder I am diabetic....lol Ah well, Loreto is to come next.'),
(10751, 'I remember you as a doorman at Winter\\''s Mike and I remember that night too - I think it was \\''79 or \\''80. Beryl was a funny sight running around like a blue ars*d fly, trying to break everything up.'),
(10743, 'Hi Trojan, I got rid of the Capri before I left Llandudno, it was a beast though eh?  :lol:'),
(10744, 'Trojan\r\nI used to work as a doorman in Winters, I remember we had a bus load of lads from up Burnley way, they must have had a fight in every pub in town! and they managed to get into Winters, we had one massive fight on our hands and I remember a lad standing in front of me and Boo (Geoff Southall) waving a table leg about, Boo tore a leg off the table next to us and hit the lad over his head, that lad is now a very good friend of mine over here in Jersey! the world is a very small place indeed.  :D'),
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We want to know your thoughts. \r\n\r\n\r\nI daren\\''t post in these at the moment as I am in the throes of a violent argument with Visit Wales( the old Wales Tourist Board )over their treatment of and attitude towards people who are trying their best to make an honest living by running a small Guest House. I would probably end up in court if I voiced my opinion of them.
\r\n\r\nI would imagine their is a fine line between the smaller family run hotels and guest houses compared to the much larger establishments. I know when I worked at the Hen Dy Hotel a small hotel/guesthouse, Tom & Carol worked pretty much 18 hours a days throughout the entire season, 7 days a week, so there is a lot of work that goes into it, the only reward having the rest of the year off. My argument however lays with the larger hotels which I think pay unfairly, in this resort where house prices have run riot, where local people are fed up of being paid pittance and and treated like ten a penny, being branded as the \\''bread and butter\\'' of this town for many, and the hoteliers association are forever moaning and wondering why locals dont want the jobs, passing it on to EU immigrants, many speaking none or little english, impoverishing the service quality this resort has held highly for so many years.\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(10742, 'Not sure on that one Lorraine, hard to make out with these shades on, but I can tell you the weeds on the pavement are Ribwort Plantain (Plantago Lanceolata, P. major) and the street sign is looking a little worse for wear.\r\nSee the DISCUSSION section \\''STREET SIGNS\\'' for more tatty Llandundno street signs.'),
(1498, 'Also he tells us the name Shimdda Hir comes from the Welsh meaning Tall Chimneys .'),
(1499, 'Hi,\r\ndoes anyone remember the `Prefabs`that used to be on Tre Cwm up untill the late 50s, or happen to have any pics of them,there wasn`t many of them, 40 maybe.\r\nA friend of mine found a picture on this site of an aerial view of Llandudno,& and if you look closely you can just make out the Prefabs in the far corner.It would be great if someone has pics or any memories of them.\r\nDave.'),
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Do you remember your old school, which school did you go to? Who were your favourite teachers, which ones didnt you like? Who did you hang around with? What about school dinners or Donkey Pie?\r\n\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nWell my second school was Loreto Middle School, definitely the best, looking back, the standard of teaching was excellent, also looking back, my standard of learning wasn`t so excellent, I managed to stay in the top group for 3 yrs, then had a miserable maths result that sent me plumeting down to the second group, my self esteem was knocked for six when I really thought I did a great job in my maths exam only to find out it was appauling. Ah well, I had great memories there. First girlfriend, Serena Piatti, had great mates, same lot from stella maris realy, with additions of Joey Neary and Paul Davies becoming closer mates, John Burns, Such a small boys class that we were all mates really. The school was great, so large and historic, Many teachers over the years, John Owen was our form teacher the whole 4yrs. Mr Morgan was Headmaster, deputy head mr.Davies, also taught art, Dewi Miles sport, Mr Jones, welsh and history, many maths teachers, mr. Roberts was main one, he left and returned, miss livens, she was scotish, taught English, was a real miss Jean Brodie, she had a black moriss minor. Excellent teacher. Then as it was run by nuns, there was sr Michael, RE, History, English. Sr Imelda, Sr Jenifer. The nuns could teach anything, even had been known to teach sport sucessfully. Miss Davies for music. The list was endless.\r\n\r\n        The school was said to be haunted and there was always stories flying about.  School sports was a massive thing. I must say, I did enjoy my time there. Sports was actually enjoyable, and truancy was non existant. If there was anything to complain about it would be the school bus never got us there on time and we always got detention for it, that wasn`t fair, so very soon I started walking and going on my bike. School trips were predictable, day trips to Pwllhelli Butlins, it got worse every time....lol After leaving, most my mates went to Aberconway school, and the girls went to colwyn bay and private schools, very sad really. But I did become a cook in the actual Loreto Sisters House, where i got to cmeet and cook dinner for past teacher when they came to the house as visitors for restpite etc. Well John Bright it was for my next destination.'),
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I have been reading some of this section for the first time and all I can say is God help your teachers!!!! You lot were horrible especially you Trojan.  :roll:
\r\n\r\n :oops:  I\\''m a reformed character now Gerry.
\r\n\r\nHe was always getting us lads into trouble :lol:
\r\n\r\nhe got me the blame for everything :lol:'),
(1502, 'On the memories lobby there is a thread on Blaen Cwm flats which has some info on the prefabs. I remember them  well from the 1960\\''s'),
(10122, 'Thanks Dave,\r\n\r\nwww.tudno.com doesn\\''t open in Microsoft Explorer too well. The menu ends up in the centre of the screen, so I have to open it in Mozilla Firefox. On there I\\''ve been clicking on the "Listen live" tab thinking it would allow me to "Listen live". After searching around, I\\''ve found at the bottom of the page "New listen live". Clicked on that and I\\''ve got in. The sound quality is poor but at least I\\''m in. They should link the new listen live to the original listen live and delete the one at the bottom.'),
(7844, 'It was a super, revealing trip and I think everyone who attended would want to thank Craig for his continuous effort in organising the event.\r\n\r\nNice camera too Craig. Lovely shots with a particular warmth to the images.\r\n\r\nIf it is possible to arrange a subsequent trip, I would urge everyone to go along and have a look, it is quite amazing just how much of this fine theatre remains preserved as if in a time capsule.'),
(3526, 'What an amazing picture, where abouts on the Orme did you take that from?? I even recognise the odd car here or there. The tree is certainly a talking point.  I\\''m not sure how old it is, it doesn\\''t appear on either the 1889 or 1900 map, even though other trees (long gone) are marked. I\\''m thinking of making a timeline with everything gathered so far, and adding as other bits come up.  Thanks for all your help  :)   B xx'),
(3527, 'Hi\r\n\r\nI found the link on ebay today\r\n\r\nDave'),
(3528, 'OLLE POSTBOX:\r\n\r\nDear Craig Ollerton,\r\n \r\nFirstly, sincere apologies for the delay in replying to the message you sent via our General Enquiries address on 1 June, which was forwarded to me by Tim Mickleburgh. I wanted to do some investigation before responding. This message bounced back this morning because I made one slip when typing your email address yesterday, so I am having to re-type and re-send it (should have saved it as a file/folder in the first place!).\r\n \r\nI have now received some cuttings from the local papers and talked with the General Manager of Llandudno pier, Simon Mason, to whom I have copied this.\r\n \r\nThere is no doubt that the owners of this very fine structure (voted Pier Of The Year 2005 by our members) want the sailings to continue, however they are in business to make money, and simply cannot shoulder the entire capital cost of repairing the landing stage and making it conform to current Health & Safety requirements.  They already make a significant gesture by waiving landing fees normally payable by Waverley Excursions Ltd. for docking at piers, and I believe I am right in saying that there is no pier toll payable by departing passengers.\r\n \r\nPiers were of course constructed initially as landing stages, so that boats could dock at all stages of the tide and passengers did not have to wade through the water when getting off them.  This began in Ryde IOW in 1814 and continued up to 1957 with the opening of Deal\\''s third pier.  (The buildings came later.)  Given that this was their primary function, and that Llandudno is a Grade II* listed structure, it does seem extraordinary that because it is privately owned and commercially operated its landing stage is not considered eligible for, or worth of, public funding.\r\n \r\nThe answer to all these situations is partnership funding from the private and public sector (local, regional, national, European government) to allow a continuous programme of planned maintenance, so as to avoid the kind of deterioration that we sadly witness all too often around our coastline. Six Piers Ltd. (who also own structures in Blackpool, Eastbourne and Southsea) do employ a contractor to maintain their piers, but there has be a strict limit on expenditure, and if there is no prospect of increased revenue from a capital project it is not surprising if the company is reluctant to commit to it, and prefers to spend its money elsewhere.\r\n \r\nRest assured that the National Piers Society will do its utmost to knock heads together and rustle up some cash (Colwyn Bay pier could do with some too!). Sadly we do not ourselves own or operate any piers, and our income derives almost exclusively from membership subscriptions. So if any of your readers are interested in the wider world of piers (and you have a particularly varied selection in the Principality!) do please sign up and join us via our website on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\n \r\nIn the meantime feel free to publish any part of this message on your messageboard and please note that I am appearing on BBC Radio Wales next Sunday 24 June at 1230 (with a repeat the following evening at 2130 I think) talking to Phil Carradice about entertainment on Welsh piers down the ages! \r\n\r\nFeel free also to post your comments in OUR Guestbook in future, that way they are seen by a wider audience than your Llandudno discussion blog.  We will be reporting this story in the next issue of our quarterly journal PIERS, parts of which are reproduced under Piers News on our website, but to get the full contents you have to join!\r\n \r\nBest wishes, keep me posted,\r\nAnthony Wills\r\nChairman, National Piers Society\r\nA company limited by guarantee\r\nRegistered Charity no. 1111251'),
(13888, 'Has anyone seen any Sand Lizards in the grounds of Pen Morfa?  There is enough sand in the garden to keep them happy.\r\nBy the way, they are a European Protected Species protected by law throughout the Eoropean Union. They are listed in Annexes 11 & 1v of the European Habitats Directive.  If you have seen any don\\''t forget to let the Planning Authorities know.'),
(1510, 'I just had to join this site to relieve my homesickness.  Llandudno and Conwy are like a second home to me since my grandparents bought a caravan in Conwy many years ago and we used to go there for holidays.  I continue to visit now with my husband and can\\''t wait to return to Llandudno this year.  I love nothing more than just standing on the end of the pier, gazing out at the sea.  Or a walk up the Orme enjoying the fresh air and natural beauty.  The people are friendly and there are some great shops.  Who needs to go abroad when you\\''ve got Llandudno?!\r\n\r\nIs there anyone out there who wants to write to me as a penpal and keep me updated with local gossip and weather reports to remind me of what I\\''m missing?!'),
(1511, 'I found out about you via a link on the BBC Wales website.   What a great find!'),
(1512, 'What a treat to have surfed on to this site and to have found all this about Alex Munro and his show. I have very fond memories of the show as it was in 1976 when I spent just about the whole of the summer holidays at the Happy Valley.  Stan Ryder was a great personal friend of mine until he died in 1998, and I conducted his funeral service which was very hard for me to do.  \r\n\r\nHaving read this forum, I was inspired to write to the North Wales Weekly News to mention that there is no memorial to Alex and Stan and that this should be attended to as a matter of urgency. My letter has actually appeared in the Rhyl & Prestatyn Visitor -- can\\''t say if it\\''s in the Weekly News (fingers crossed). Hopefully the glaring omission of a memorial plaque will be addressed e\\''er long.\r\n\r\nPutting on the shows in Llandudno was a huge financial undertaking and if audiences weren\\''t about, then the likes of Alex could really feel a financial sting - and I know for sure that Alex himself knew VERY TOUGH TIMES indeed. But he was a man who put his money where his mouth was and his sole aim was to bring pleasure and enjoyment to those coming to Llandudno.  There could be times when things appeared amateurish - but only in the true sense of the word - that it was being done - FOR THE LOVE OF IT.\r\n\r\nStan certainly fancied himself as a "famous organist". He was an avid organ enthusiast - but in truth was not a terribly good player at the organ console. Put him at a piano however, and it was another story. He could be quite fantastic. His high kick ALWAYS caused a stir and when he and Alex got together (particularly in the Town Hall) the comedy between them could be second to none. They could be quite hilarious.\r\n\r\nWithout a doubt I miss Stan, and though Alex was more a passing acquaintance (he referred to me as "a wee know-all" and at 15 perhaps I was), he was one of the greats and a great professional to the last.\r\n\r\nOn another note, Billy Bennett who is mentioned elsewhere in this thread, lived out his final days in my parents\\'' Residential Home in Colwyn Bay. He died about three years ago after a short illness. Though he was a VERY simple soul, he was a devout Christian man, who attended St Paul\\''s Church in Colwyn Bay, and I understand that there was a large number of persons present at his funeral service. He is still missed by members of the congregation at St Paul\\''s and also by my family in Colwyn Bay. \r\n\r\nQuentin Bellamy (Vicar of Prestatyn)'),
(6640, '● Llandudno first become a venue for touring opera in 1864, using St.George\\''s Hall, now the shop of the HMV chain in Mostyn Street.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(1514, 'Didn\\''t they do Popsy Cream ice creams (pink ice cream on a stick) Yummy! :lol:'),
(6639, 'Carrying on from your post suepp......\r\n● The first book in the Welsh language was printed in a cave on the Little Orme, in 1585, by a team led by the Venerable William Davies, who was hanged at Beaumaris Castle in 1593, and beatified at St. Peter\\''s, Rome, in 1987.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(6622, 'What the Dickens do you mean Moderator?  :lol:  He he, I\\''ll be careful.'),
(6624, 'Same here-- I\\''m back there with Wallie having some more injections for her arthritis.'),
(6625, 'Back to the original subject.\r\nA couple of friends have today actually found the Kendrick family grave.!'),
(6626, 'It was Jackie Scott but I dont think she is on the photo. Yes I remember both Tommy Hunter & Lorraine Hulme but again I am sure that neither of them are in the photo. Thanks for trying to help me out here though!!'),
(6629, 'Have just walked past and the tape and the 3 bollards have been removed.'),
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hi, the Kellys that ran the Links were not the  brothers  to Kelly the telly from Somerset ST.
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(11003, 'Hi,\r\n\r\nStumbled across this site and had to leave a comment.\r\n\r\nWhat does "provide for" mean for the younger generation? \r\n\r\nIdeas like Youth Clubs seem to me to entirely miss the point. Being an adolescent or young adult isn\\''t about having your own special facilities or \\''activity centres\\''. No person that age wants to be treated as a special case, because that feels like being set apart from \\''adult\\'' society, it smacks of being treated like a kid. Kids that age are not looking for their own special facilities or adult-led activity groups, and more importantly are not looking to be treated any differently than regular adults. Which is why youth clubs and other \\''youth specific\\'' projects get so little interest from the target audience, if not open derision. Because simply by being what they are, they are treating those people in a special way. It\\''s saying "hey, you\\''re not a grown up yet, let us guide you, honestly its fun and you\\''ll learn cool stuff" - not what kids are after. They don\\''t want guidance (except perhaps from close personal/family mentors), they don\\''t want special treatment. They resent it. That\\''s why \\''youth clubs\\'' and special activity centres are thought of as being so uncool.\r\n\r\nKids in late teens early 20\\''s are all about finding out how to be grown up. They want to be grown up, do grown up stuff, and most importantly, be treated as a grown up. People that age are all about doing their own thing, trying all sorts of things out, and learning how to be an adult by doing things \\''for real\\'', without the safety net of \\''mentor\\'' figures or adult-arranged groups. They want to become adults without being told by adults what that means or how to do it. As soon as someone that age thinks an adult is trying to steer them in any way, or treat them differently, then you\\''ve lost them.\r\n\r\nThe question isn\\''t about "does Llandudno provide for youth" but "does Llandudno have things to do and places to go that a youth might be interested in, and that won\\''t cause problems for older adults". Youth\\''s are unlikely to be into Theatre - but they\\''re likely to be into surfing. Does Llandudno make it easy for young adults to try surfing? Youths hang out in groups, its what they do - does Llandudno have places they can hang out without them getting shunned (and without making it easy for them to get plastered)? That\\''s the sort of thinking that needs to happen to answer the question at the top of this thread.\r\n\r\nIt\\''s the \\''provide\\'' bit that\\''s the really important but subtle distinction. If you\\''re seen to be \\''providing for\\'' them specifically then you\\''re in trouble.'),
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(6634, 'Yes, the three No Waiting Bollards that Trojan mentioned he saw in the picture.'),
(1518, 'The Astra in Llandudno had one of the very best theatre organ installations in the land. In its time it was played by some of the most well known theatre organists including: Harold Ramsay (who opened it in 1935), Reginald Dixon, Reginald Foort, Reginald Porter-Brown, Sandy MacPherson, Robinson Cleaver, Brian Sharp, Ernest Broadbent,  Hector Olivera, Rob Calcuterra, William Davies, Norman Scott, Roy Bentley (who was the General Manager of Hutchinson\\''s Leisure Services) Stan Ryder, and (harumphh) Quentin Bellamy.  :wink: \r\n\r\nThe last Resident Organist was Ken James. \r\n\r\nHere is the organ\\''s specification:\r\n\r\nAstra Cinema, Llandudno\r\n(1935 - 1989)\r\n\r\nSPECIFICATION OF THE "CHRISTIE" CINEMA ORGAN\r\n\r\nBuilt by Messrs William Hill & Son and Norman and Beard Ltd\r\n\r\n(removed in the Spring of 1987 and subsequently destroyed by fire) \r\n\r\nThree manuals CC-c (61 notes) and pedals CCC-g (32 notes)\r\nEight fully unified ranks and a full complement of tonal and non-tonal\r\npercussions\r\n\r\nPEDAL ORGAN \r\n\r\n21 Stopkeys\r\n3 Couplers and Cancellation Bar\r\n\r\n32    Acoustic Bass (7ranks)\r\n16   Tuba Horn\r\n16   Open Diapason\r\n16   Tibia Clausa\r\n  8   Tuba Horn\r\n  8   French Trumpet\r\n  8   Octave\r\n  8   Tibia Clausa\r\n  8   Strings\r\n  8   Concert Flute\r\n  4   Super Octave\r\n  4   Tibia Clausa \r\n\r\nBass Drum Roll\r\nSnare Drum Roll\r\nBass Drum Tap FF   2nd Touch\r\nBass Drum Tap PP   2nd Touch\r\nCymbal Stroke      2nd Touch\r\nCymbal Roll      2nd Touch\r\nCymbal Crash      2nd Touch\r\nTolling Bell      2nd Touch\r\nTriangle         2nd Touch\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nAccompaniment to Pedal\r\nGreat to Pedal\r\nSolo to Pedal\r\n\r\nSwitch to Pedal 2nd Touch percussions to 1st Touch\r\n\r\n\r\nACCOMPANIMENT ORGAN\r\n\r\n29 Stopkeys\r\n2 Couplers and cancellation bar\r\n\r\n16    Vox Humana    TC\r\n16   String       TC\r\n16    Concert Flute   TC\r\n 8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Vox Humana\r\n8   Clarinet (synthetic)\r\n8   Saxophone (synthetic)\r\n8   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n8   Celestes\r\n8   Concert Flute\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Vox Humana\r\n4   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n4   Concert Flute\r\n2 2/3   Flute Twelfth\r\n2   Flautina\r\n\r\n4   Chrysoglott (37 notes)\r\n   Vibraphone\r\n\r\nSnare Drum Roll\r\nTriangle\r\nCymbal Stroke\r\nChinese Block (Re-iterating)\r\nCastanets\r\nTambourine\r\nTom-Tom\r\nSand Block\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nSolo to Accompaniment\r\nOctave\r\n\r\nAccompaniment Cancel Bar\r\n\r\nACCOMPANIMENT 2ND TOUCH\r\n\r\n8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n2   Tibia Clausa\r\nBird Whistle\r\nSolo to Accompaniment (2nd)\r\nGreat 4\\'' to Accomp   (2nd)\r\n\r\nGREAT ORGAN\r\n\r\n16   Tuba Horn   TC\r\n16   French Trumpet   TC\r\n16   Open Diapason\r\n16    Vox Humana    TC\r\n16    Concert Flute   TC\r\n8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   Vox Humana\r\n8   Clarinet (synthetic)\r\n8   Saxophone (synthetic)\r\n8   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n8   Celestes\r\n8   Concert Flute\r\n4   Tuba Horn\r\n4   French Trumpet\r\n4   Octave\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Vox Humana\r\n4   Viol d\\''Orchestre\r\n4   Celestes\r\n4   Concert Flute\r\n2 2/3   Tibia Twelfth\r\n2   Tibia Piccolo\r\n2   Salicet\r\n2   Flautina\r\n1 3/5   Flute Tierce\r\n\r\n4   Xylophone Tap     (37 notes)\r\n   Xylophone Re-iterate\r\n4   Glockenspiel   (37 notes)\r\n   Orchestral Bells\r\n   Chrysoglott\r\n   Vibraphone\r\n   Carillon       (25 notes)\r\n   Chimes      (17 notes)\r\n   Chimes Mute\r\n   Sleigh Bells\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nSolo Sub Octave to Great\r\nSub Octave\r\nUnison Off\r\nOctave\r\n\r\nGreat Cancellation Bar\r\n\r\nSECOND TOUCH\r\n\r\n16   Tuba Horn\r\n16   French Trumpet   TC\r\n16   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n\r\nSOLO ORGAN\r\n\r\n24 Stopkeys\r\n6 Couplers plus Solo Cancel\r\n\r\n\r\n16   Tuba Horn   \r\n16   Open Diapason\r\n16   Tibia Clausa\r\n16    Vox Humana    TC\r\n8   Tuba Horn\r\n8   Tibia Clausa\r\n8   Vox Humana\r\n8   French Trumpet\r\n8   Open Diapason\r\n8   Clarinet (synthetic)\r\n8   Saxophone (synthetic)\r\n4   Tuba Horn\r\n4   French Trumpet\r\n4   Octave\r\n4   Tibia Clausa\r\n4   Vox Humana\r\n\r\n4   Xylophone Tap     (37 notes)\r\n   Xylophone Re-iterate\r\n4   Glockenspiel   (37 notes)\r\n   Orchestral Bells\r\n   Chrysoglott\r\n   Vibraphone\r\n   Carillon       (25 notes)\r\n   Chimes      (17 notes)\r\n   Chimes Mute\r\n   Sleigh Bells\r\n\r\nCOUPLERS\r\n\r\nAccompaniment to Solo\r\nSub Octave\r\nUnison Off\r\nOctave\r\n\r\nSolo Cancellation Bar\r\n\r\nEFFECTS\r\n\r\nSurf\r\nCymbal Roll\r\nSyren\r\nBoat Whistle\r\nFire Bell\r\nDrums Crash\r\nTelephone Bell\r\nBirds\r\nCar Horn\r\nTelephone Bell\r\nKlaxon\r\nAeroplane\r\n\r\nTREMULANTS\r\n\r\nTuba\r\nTibia\r\nVox Humana\r\nMain\r\n\r\nACCESORIES\r\n\r\n5 Toe pistons to Pedal\r\nTen Thumb Pistons to Accompaniment\r\nTen Thumb Pistons to Great\r\nTen Thumb Pistons to Solo\r\nChrysoglott Damper\r\nRocker Tablet to Cymbal Stroke/Crash (accompaniment key cheek)\r\nExpression Pedals to Main and Solo Chambers\r\nExpression Pedal Coupler\r\nGeneral Crescendo Pedal\r\nIlluminated stop-key console on lift in centre of orchestra pit'),
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Hi all,\r\n\r\nI\\''ve been trying all day and not got on once. If I have to listen to "I\\''ll be there" by The Four Tops one more time, I\\''ll go mental  :x  :x  :x .
\r\nAre you clicking on the "NEW - Listen live" link on the top right-hand side of the page, underneath the Venue Cymru logo? Click on that, this will open a blank page, then Windows Media Player will open and it will hopefully connect.\r\n\r\nThe \\''Listen Live\\'' link in the menu just plays the test transmission thing continuously. \r\n\r\nSC'),
(1520, 'Have you any CD\\''s or recordings of the Christie Organ we could borrow, I would love to make this available to our members?\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig.'),
(1521, 'The organ was recorded by Robinson Cleaver on an LP entitled Aria Ad Astra in the late 1970s. In a moment of madness  :shock:  I sold mine on Ebay, so I\\''m looking out for another copy.  It was also recorded by Byron Jones (aka The Welsh Wizard) on an LP entitled Sincerely [The Savoy American Medley, To a Wild Rose, Ivor Novello Selection, Taboo, Trumpet Tune in D (Purcell), When the Organ Play at Twilight, Roses of Picardy, Poem (Fibich), A Certain Smile, Twelfth of Never, What I Did for Love, Myfanwy, Cartref, Unwaith Etto\\''n, Nghymru Anwy (Welsh Exile Song)];\r\nNigel Ogden also recorded a cassette on it many years ago, but I never had a copy of either of those recordings. I do have somewhere a track of Roy Bentley playing it, but quite where that is, I know not.... \r\nYou\\''ve given me some homework to do now!  :wink: \r\n\r\nDQB'),
(3886, 'I sit on the sit of the Little Orme looking over to the Great Orme, l;stening to the birds keening. Also becoming attached to rocking stone on hill at Penrhynside- great view of Little Orme and always friendly dogs and people to talk to!'),
(1610, 'I think not, but it is easier said than done. I have seen a “youth Centre” in the Trinity Ave. Area but never seen it open. Is that what the local teens want or do they just want to hang around and if so to be honest who is happy to see them hanging around their street corner?\r\nI think Boulevards tried to do a day time disco but ended with the police helicopter being scrambled and quite a bit of bad coverage in the press. I don’t pretend to have the answer but I suspect its lots of things.  What’s happened to our community radio station that may be part of the answer it could be hosted by Olle on line?\r\nI wish I did know.'),
(1571, 'After reading the Signs posting and the messages on these pages it sounds like the Town Council should organise a Paint it with Pride programme for a fortnight asking all residents to do their bit and for the council to agree to repaint all the Victorian aspects that represent the town, street signs, lamp posts, railings and so on.  Oh yes and they should invest a few quid nto the flower beds too, when one compares those in Llandudno to resorts on the east coast they look simply weedy!\r\n\r\nIt aint rocket science, the visitors come into town on the A55 and they often leave the same day, what they see in that day sends out a message much quicker these days to all their friends and relatives so why not Paint the town with Pride and give them something to really talk about in order to get more visitors in?\r\nGG'),
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Anyone remember Lyon\\''s. It was a combination of a sports shop and toy shop, the sports section being a few steps up at the back of the shop. It used to be in Gloddaeth Ave near the Palladium. I got my first Action Man from there. In later years, the shop moved to Upper Mostyn St, but only as a sports shop. No more toys.\r\nI have seen a photo somewhere on this website of David Lyon, one of the sons of the owners, when he was a young boy. Wonder what he\\''s doing now.\r\nAs far as I remember, his mother was Margaret Lyon. Wasn\\''t she also the Mayoress at some time?
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hi Seejay. David Lyons is still in the shop in upper  Mostyn st.
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(6636, 'thanks guys all this information is being taken in and i will get some pics up as soon as possible just very busy at the moment so not had time to pop down yet also whats the strangest thing that you have seen?\r\nHas anyone made a new and exciting discovery?\r\nSarah  :)'),
(1524, 'Here\\''s the letter:\r\n\r\n"For many years the Scottish comedian Alex Munro and organist Stan Ryder entertained many thousands of visitors to Llandudno with their shows at the Happy Valley Open Air Theatre, the late lamented Pier Pavilion, and the Town Hall, and yet there is no tangible memorial to them or their work in Llandudno.\r\nA plaque at the site of the Happy Valley Theatre would be the least we could do for two men who gave so much for Llandudno. Is it possible that this could be looked into  as a matter of urgency?\r\n\r\nRev D Quentin Bellamy, High Street, Prestatyn"\r\n\r\nWeekly News, 19/4/2007, page 10.'),
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Hi peeps, I would like to ask everyone where and how you found out about our website? Search engine, newspaper article, web link, word of mouth? Please specify.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nI came across it while doing a regular search for Llandudno on Google.'),
(1526, 'Well for me its the seaside, the fact that we have to shores which are so completely different, The sound of the waves on the north shore pebbles and the refreshing smell of the sea air, or we have the west shore that has beautiful sunsets and calm and tranquil beach, of course in the winter the rough sea on both shores is fascinating to watch. The orme with its breath taking views and lovely wildlife and gardens, then if you take the time to stop and take in the building in the town, you will notice a different side of the small shopping streets. above the shops there is another world, an array of flats, occupied by more of Llandudno`s habitants, signs of Llanduno`s past, old shop names or Establishments, forgotton architecture that has to be admired. The other nice thing about the town is the friendliness, we are a small town, roughly 7 miles square, if you dont know of somebody, you will know someone that knows that somebody.'),
(4123, 'Yesterday I popped into Llandudno Library for the first time and WoW! It was brilliant.\r\nThe lady who helped me, who\\''s name sadly I didn\\''t catch, was so helpful and showed me around, giving me all the details I needed, even down to explaining about what you can do online with regards to renewing, reserving/ordering books all of which can be done over the internet. She even helped me to find out about books I wanted, and knew immediately which ones I was talking about, and wether they were were in or out on loan.\r\nIf you have\\''nt been in, go, its an absolute pleasure.'),
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Do you remember your old school, which school did you go to? Who were your favourite teachers, which ones didnt you like? Who did you hang around with? What about school dinners or Donkey Pie?\r\n\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nWell my last school I must say wasn`t my best, although the teachers were nice. Too many teachers to mention, I hung about with Eric Wynne, Robbie Sumberland, Russel Eacott and Trevor Bagnall, Pete Rowlands, a great crowd of lads. Time flew by here. Best thing here was being so close to home, I went home for dinners. The lessons were boring most of the time, although I did enjoy English with R. E. Jones Welsh Studies with margaret Williams, and Tech Drawing With Mr Evans.  I always felt like an outsider, having not going to mostyn school. Unlike today we did not have as much support for our future, the prospect of colleges and universities only seemed to be spoken of to the richer people. Although we were told about the forces. My school days here were wasted, prospects were low. This may have all been different if I started here with a higher entry. Needless to say, hind sight says I should have paid attention more in Loreto. I dont even have that many memorable moments here. More of times I would rather forget.  Well thats it, 3 schools, all different.'),
(10741, 'sorry Alphaline  credit where credits due Well spotted.                           Yep still trying to focus here Trojan :?'),
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Here\\''s the letter:\r\n\r\n"For many years the Scottish comedian Alex Munro and organist Stan Ryder entertained many thousands of visitors to Llandudno with their shows at the Happy Valley Open Air Theatre, the late lamented Pier Pavilion, and the Town Hall, and yet there is no tangible memorial to them or their work in Llandudno.\r\nA plaque at the site of the Happy Valley Theatre would be the least we could do for two men who gave so much for Llandudno. Is it possible that this could be looked into  as a matter of urgency?\r\n\r\nRev D Quentin Bellamy, High Street, Prestatyn"\r\n\r\nWeekly News, 19/4/2007, page 10.
\r\n\r\nThanks for that Snakecorp, to Reverand Bellamy who has recently joined the forum, our forum group have also expressed their wishes, as well as Anna-Marie Munro herself who is a forum member. I have actively pursued this myself which you may be unaware of and Alex Munro has been added to the new list of plaques mainly by influence of Llandudno Enthusiasts, I am now 99.5% sure this plaque will be erected, so good news i\\''m sure you would agree? I had given little thought to Stan Ryder and will mull this over in my head over the coming days, maybe our forum members could give their views on Stan? Remember these plaques cant be given to anyone and everyone, we have to be able to back these with sufficient cause. They are also subject to council funding.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(14066, 'Hi Kindways,\r\nNo, I dont have any Norton software.\r\nI have a Dell PC with Vista and AVG.\r\nIn "Computer" it shows 2 Hard disk drives:\r\n1= OS(C) 163GB free of 222GB\r\n2= RECOVERY (D) 2.56MB free of 9.99GB\r\nIt is the recovery drive that I am being told is full.\r\nThanks,\r\nChad'),
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Blimey Trojan  Nettle was right about you ,your one heck of a brain box is there anything you dont know about.? you certainly know your history of llandudno. :o
\r\n\r\nGive Alphaline some credit here  :!:  Or are you still cross-eyed from looking at the Old Road pic  :?:'),
(1569, 'I agree with Snake, its simply no excuse for a lack of maintenance on this important monument for the town as it was once considered to be.  Didnt Lloyd George PM, Welsh MP unveil it when it was first erected.\r\n\r\nIts a poor state of affairs to see it in this condidition, I remember when it was vanadalised and they asked in all the schools to seek out the culprits.\r\n\r\nIt wouldnt cost that much to fill it with water and to maintain or replace a few broken slabs surely not?\r\n\r\nIt sends a clear message to todays tourists that in llandudno we really dont care - st least its still modern looking like something from Doctor Who!!\r\nGareth'),
(1536, 'Where do all the retailers on the pier go in the winter?  Are they all locals, do they have other businesses to support themselves, or do they make enough money during the holiday season to enable them have a second home and jet off in the winter to the Bahamas?!  :?'),
(1537, 'this is somthing i\\''v often wondered too. but i have no idea.'),
(1538, 'I know one of the retailers on the pier and yes, generally what they make during season has to be enough to keep them ticking over out of season. The business man I know in particular tends to jet off for a month or so each year to some exotic location.\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
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SnakeCorp, I don\\''t.   My understanding of the situation is that Anwyl Construction paid Mr Shelton Fernando a nominal sum of money ( & yes I do know the amount) on an option to purchase agreement. The completion of the contract would be on the condition that planning permission was granted.\r\nIf you look at it in a logical manner, would you pay £2.5m for a property and then afterwards submit a proposal for the demolition of the most famous building in Llandudno?  A proposal so preposterous that it should never had any chanse of succeeding in the first place!      Anwyl Construction run a business, they wouldn\\''t gamble on the proposal going through afterwards. The most they would have stood to lose by this method is the "nominal amount" paid as a deposit.
\r\nOk, I hear what you\\''re saying but don\\''t quite see what the problem is with how Anwyl have acted?  As you say, Anywl paid their option money and took a gamble. You  don\\''t need to own a building or piece of land to apply for PP on it. \r\n\r\nSC'),
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Where do all the retailers on the pier go in the winter?  Are they all locals, do they have other businesses to support themselves, or do they make enough money during the holiday season to enable them have a second home and jet off in the winter to the Bahamas?!  :?
\r\n\r\nI suppose some them will be doing the markets in the winter. The pier stalls can`t be that much to rent, so the summer stalls are just a bit of extra money for either those who choose to run the stalls themselves aa hobbies, or get kids to run them on a minimum wage.'),
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Where do all the retailers on the pier go in the winter?  Are they all locals, do they have other businesses to support themselves, or do they make enough money during the holiday season to enable them have a second home and jet off in the winter to the Bahamas?!  :?
\r\n\r\nI suppose some them will be doing the markets in the winter. The pier stalls can`t be that much to rent, so the summer stalls are just a bit of extra money for either those who choose to run the stalls themselves aa hobbies, or get kids to run them on a minimum wage.
\r\n\r\nI believe they\\''re anything up to a couple of grand a season, depending upon the location. The ones closest to the Pier gates are the most expensive and rents decrease the further you go down the pier.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Hi folks\r\nWhen Craigside Hotel was empty it was overssen by Securicor for security reasons, my father tells me when I was young I nipped in there to see him when I was out on my bike but i cant recall it.  He said I found an empty swimming pool full of frogs there but I\\''m sure I\\''d have recalled that!\r\n\r\nWasnt there a set of garages opposite the hotel and a set of tennis courts?\r\nwho owned the garages and were they for maintenance or just residents?\r\nGareth
\r\n\r\nHI Gareth,\r\n\r\nAren\\''t you thinking of the Craigside Hydro Hotel, a little further down the road towards Llandudno, rather than the Craigside Inn? \r\n\r\nSC'),
(1544, 'Can anyone shed any light on this clock or maker?\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1545, 'These cast iron gates showing \\''Loreto College\\'' on Abbey Road tell stories of bygone times. The question is, how much longer will these gates survive?\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nSpotted a hidden gem or some bygone nostalgia, share it with us here or e-mail your images to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and we will upload these for you.'),
(1547, 'A big welcome to Vicar Quentin and a huge thank you for your post. It\\''s the first I\\''ve heard of the deaths of both Stan Ryder and Billy Bennet.  I too was around at the Happy Valley in the mid 70\\''s. My friend Paul and I helped out backstage. \r\nStan\\''s high kick was indeed awsome. I vaugely remember getting a lift home with him. I lived near the flyover in the Junction and Stan had digs in Deganwy with a lady who\\''s name I forget. She used to pick him up. He was a lovely man.\r\nI hope "Madame" Bennet lived out his final years in the peace and care he deserved.'),
(1548, 'Stan had digs in Warren Drive, Deganwy with Ness MacNabb -- who in 1985 became Mrs Ryder.\r\n\r\nDQB'),
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I believe they\\''re anything up to a couple of grand a season, depending upon the location. The ones closest to the Pier gates are the most expensive and rents decrease the further you go down the pier.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nThats got to be very outlay cheap for what they could take on a good season with the right produce. Although there some ok stalls there, the ones right next to "The Grand" certainly get busy.'),
(1550, 'Does any one have any memories of the Town Churches? \r\n\r\nI was organist and choirmaster at Holy Trinity between 1985-87 when Canon Derek Richards was the Rector. \r\n\r\nDuring that time we had a huge choir made up of adults and a very large number of children from the local schools. We once did a sponsored walk around the Great Orme to raise funds for new choir robes.  That walk is miles and my feet were killing me - but we made about £250 for some really impressive long and flowing Old English Cathedral surplices - many of which are still in use to this day! (They were VERY expensive, and of the highest quality and they look as good today as when they were first purchased). I don\\''t know how many children are in the church choir these days, but those days were happy and exciting - and very busy.\r\n\r\nI still think of Holy Trinity Church as my "spiritual home" and a most beautiful and atmospheric place.\r\n\r\nDQB');
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(1551, 'Certainly not hidden but definitely a gem, is the Victoria Memorial in Happy Valley:\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/435356215/\r\n\r\nThe statue/fountain was commissioned by Lady Augusta Mostyn. It was built to mark Queen Victoria\\''s jubilee and also to celebrate the presentation of the Happy Valley Park to the people of Llandudno by landowner Lord Mostyn. It was unveiled on 28th August 1890.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(1653, 'Great rant! Being fair, the covenant was placed on the Pavilion building/land by the Pier\\''s owners when they sold the Pavilion back in 1983, to prevent any competition to their own commercial activities on the pier. Can\\''t blame them, I suppose.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Interestingly, there\\''s a covenant on the building/land that prohibits it being used for any form of gambling, amusement arcade, food/drink sales, bar/cafe.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nI tell you something, the amount of red tape in this town is ridiculous, no wonder theres no progression! I think we can safely say, nothing will ever happen to this site, lets just get used to this eyesore being there and close this thread, we\\''re just wasting our time! Conwy County Borough Council, get off your fat ar*** and do something about this! The town is fed up now and its about time something is done! Less talk, more action!\r\n\r\n(sorry folks, first time i\\''ve had to swear in my own forum) thanks for the research there SnakeCorp. I\\''m deeply saddened by the Pavilion Site issue, i\\''m not the only one i\\''m sure.\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(2608, 'The WELSH breakfast is just a figment of the imagination.  It is clearly just a good old English breakfast served in Wales.  It is like the English (or Welsh) breakfast all over the World.  A "come on" to the tourists!\r\n\r\nWhatever you have as an early morning repast, enjoy it and call it what you will.\r\n\r\n\r\n.'),
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Great rant! Being fair, the covenant was placed on the Pavilion building/land by the Pier\\''s owners when they sold the Pavilion back in 1983, to prevent any competition to their own commercial activities on the pier. Can\\''t blame them, I suppose.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nI\\''d like to envision perhaps a Casino, Live Entertainments, Restaurant and Bar and Shops on the present site within a similar style of building. However the Covenant stops most of them activities thus leaving progression gridlocked, it could be perceived as a very sly move. I personally think removing the convenant and seeing progression on the site could compliment the existing trade on the Pier. Something needs to be done soon because Llandudno is losing its \\''good old fashion seaside holiday\\'' appeal... fast. This is a prime site which could make a difference to the future and longevity of the tourist trade in Llandudno.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
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Great rant! Being fair, the covenant was placed on the Pavilion building/land by the Pier\\''s owners when they sold the Pavilion back in 1983, to prevent any competition to their own commercial activities on the pier. Can\\''t blame them, I suppose.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nI\\''d like to envision perhaps a Casino, Live Entertainments, Restaurant and Bar and Shops on the present site within a similar style of building. However the Covenant stops most of them activities thus leaving progression gridlocked, it could be perceived as a very sly move. I personally think removing the convenant and seeing progression on the site could compliment the existing trade on the Pier. Something needs to be done soon because Llandudno is losing its \\''good old fashion seaside holiday\\'' appeal... fast. This is a prime site which could make a difference to the future of Llandudno.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nI agree 100% that this is a prime site that deserves a high quality building with a design that is a reasonable exterior facsimile of the original Pavilion. \r\n\r\nInside, I\\''d like to see a bar/restaurant on the first floor with exterior balcony seating area to make the most of the panoramic views across the Bay. The bar would also host live entertainment in the evenings. On the ground floor, I\\''d like to see a Family Entertainment area (with non-gambling amusement machines), together with a large separate over 18s Casino area for high stakes fruit machines etc.There would also be room for small shops and a coffee shop. Maybe also an indoor children\\''s play area like Geronimo\\''s in Rhyl.\r\n\r\nThe covenant problem could easily be overcome if it were the pier company that developed/ran the \\''new\\'' Pavilion\\''s attractions. Assuming this happened, I\\''d also like to see the existing 1970s arcade building at the pier entrance demolished and the original wide walkway from pier entrance to pavilion reinstated.\r\n\r\nThere\\''s the plan - now let\\''s see the WDA swing into action!\r\n\r\nSC'),
(1657, 'SnakeCorp, you\\''ve nailed it on the head in one! What does everyone else think?\r\n\r\nI think your proposal has got to be worth 50 Silver Forum Points, Well Done! \r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1658, 'Lets get a million people to each chuck in a quid and we`ll buy it. Then we sell it to a businessman for £1, providing he agrees to invest at least Xmillion to renovate the site. This is what quite frequently happens with older estates/buildings where the councils want the work doing but cant afford it themselves, they sell it dirt cheap with a requirement to invest.\r\n\r\nAnd the best thing is if the businessman doesnt spend the money the site returns to its original owners.\r\n\r\nSo whose got a quid then ?'),
(1659, 'It would be like drawing blood from a stone, easier said than done. I\\''ve had a donations button on my site for several months and not had a penny, nevermind a quid lol.  :lol:  Thanks to those who have made non-monetary donations however.\r\n\r\nI think local funding or small lottery grant is probably my best route. For the pavilion however, it would have to be a compulsory purchase by the local borough, or a business man who is actually interested in doing something with the site, not just after a quick buck. Firstly though, the convenants need to be removed before any progress is made.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1660, 'well in llandudno i dont realy know.\r\nin conwy again as far as im aware there is nothing for younger people to do. all i see them do is hang around in lancaster square makeing a scene and shouting comments to passers by. or at the park at Bodlondeb drinking.'),
(10716, 'hiya loz  :D im fine you ok. have you worked out who trojan is yet?? he\\''s the one who wears shades in the dark 8) and he\\''s just full of knowledge, even in school with me ..hint hint his pic is on here under old school photo,s loreto'),
(10717, 'Na ive checked out the old photo still cant recognise him ,anyway makes it more fun someone knows me and i dont know them ha ha x'),
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I see the heavy lifting ship "Svanen" is now off the coast. I suppose it is getting ready to build the wind farm. Just time for a last look at our lovely view from the promenade!
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(10725, 'I remember it well  i had my very first job there in my school holidays my nana was the cook there best steak and kidney pie around at the time ,i started of washing up in the kitchen then after a few weeks i had to work out front on the counter and waiting on i was anervous wreck but i was glad of the wages i used to go over to W H Smiths and buy records, oooer its all coming back to me those horrible fomica tables,I think it was the Maypole before  that and upstairs was called the carlton resturant. ooh showing my age  :wink:'),
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2011, 04:04:07 PM »
(13883, 'Thanks for the great photo\\''s Trojan. Alan, Phil & I used to dive from that ledge ( only when it was high tide though! )'),

(13884, 'On behalf of a friend of mine:-\r\nCan anyone fill us in on the history of Elephant\\''s cave? We presume that man had a hand in the shape of it, but was it connected to the quarrying or the mines?'),

(13885, 'SnakeCorp, I don\\''t.   My understanding of the situation is that Anwyl Construction paid Mr Shelton Fernando a nominal sum of money ( & yes I do know the amount) on an option to purchase agreement. The completion of the contract would be on the condition that planning permission was granted.\r\nIf you look at it in a logical manner, would you pay £2.5m for a property and then afterwards submit a proposal for the demolition of the most famous building in Llandudno?  A proposal so preposterous that it should never had any chanse of succeeding in the first place!      Anwyl Construction run a business, they wouldn\\''t gamble on the proposal going through afterwards. The most they would have stood to lose by this method is the "nominal amount" paid as a deposit.'),

(1685, 'Many thanks for pointing this out - I had not made my way throughout the whole forum, with so many postings :lol: !!\r\n\r\nWhat happened to the stage - did it fall into dereliction, or was swift action taken?\r\n\r\nTL'),

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Many thanks for pointing this out - I had not made my way throughout the whole forum, with so many postings :lol: !!\r\n\r\nWhat happened to the stage - did it fall into dereliction, or was swift action taken?\r\n\r\nTL
\r\n\r\n\\''Swift action\\'' is not something one associates with Conwy Council!  :lol:   No, after the shows ceased, the stage area was abandoned for years - I remember wandering around the stage sometime in the late 80s/early 90s and it was in a pretty vandalised state - the Happy Valley Entertainers sign was still visible though, as I recall. The area where the audience used to sit was used for car parking - you can see that in this aerial photo from the 1990s:\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nEventually, a fire (started by vandals) destroyed the entire building and a new cafeteria building was built during the Lottery funded refurbishment of the Happy Valley in 2001. Some photos of the building work here:\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nSadly, the theatre was not rebuilt and the whole area now doesn\\''t look \\''right\\'' to me - see this photo I took of the area very recently\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nA great shame that the theatre wasn\\''t rebuilt, in my opinion.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1688, 'Out of interest, I did a search to see if I could find any photos of the old Happy Valley Entertainers stage. Found this one from 1890:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I understand that the first performances there took place in 1873.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(13881, 'I have seen more sand in the gardens in West Shore than there is on the whole of the North Shore beach! \r\nThe moral of the story is:- Don\\''t ask a consultant, just ask a local   (it\\''s free and you get common sense)'),

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Have you seen the exclusive development on the site of the Tan y Bryn Nursing home? Who says crime doesn\\''t pay?
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By the way the application for the demolition of both properties was not made by the owners, but was made by a builder as was  in the case of Pen Morfa.
\r\nBut the builder definitely owned Pen Morfa when they made the planning application. They paid Shelton Fernando £2million for it:\r\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/3746318.stm\r\n\r\nSC'),

(8323, 'Charlie Jones (Deputy Head), English;  Mr Evans (Happy), Latin (and flute); Mr Evans (Heinie) History (and piano to Happy\\''s flute); Mel Jones (Mel) PT & Games; Ambrose, Welsh; Mr Scarisbrick, French; Mr Bradshaw, Physics; Mr Crossman? Crossley?, Chemistry; Mr Hopkins (Hoppy), Geography - good aim with a board duster and had a famous fight with Trump. Then they introduced a new subject - that destroyer of civilisations - Economics (Mr Jones I think) and I lost count.\r\n\r\nCraig has a long photograph of the whole school in 1953 that I lent him about seven years back (hyperbole). What the hell have you done with it, Craig?\r\n\r\nI also have copies of two school magazines around the same era that I\\''d be happy to let people have sight of if it was promised they\\''d be safer than my photo!\r\n\r\nHeddwch.\r\n\r\nMike.'),

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Sadly, the theatre was not rebuilt and the whole area now doesn\\''t look \\''right\\'' to me - see this photo I took of the area very recently\r\n\r\nA great shame that the theatre wasn\\''t rebuilt, in my opinion.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nTo be honest with you, I think something could be added to the rear of the cafetaria, and with the right entertainers and a certain push in local papers, my website :) and a few billboards up throughout the season who knows it could take off, I think it would even compliment the cafetaria business, the park is a no-no which is there presently, did they knock the old park down near the toll gate, I think they did?'),

(13880, 'Have you seen the exclusive development on the site of the Tan y Bryn Nursing home? Who says crime doesn\\''t pay?\r\nBy the way the application for the demolition of both properties was not made by the owners, but was made by a builder as was  in the case of Pen Morfa.'),

(1698, 'Hi everyone,\r\nI\\''m looking into local legends and myths of Llandudno and its surrounding areas ( ghosts included ). So far I\\''m not having much luck, but then its early days  :wink: \r\nDoes anyone have any tales to tell or stories passed on by family members ? I would love to hear about them.\r\nHoping to put something together eventually, perhaps a web page or three  :lol: \r\nLook forward to hearing from you all\r\n\r\nKate'),

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I just keep finding stuff. This little treasure is a promotional record from 1975. I\\''m on it playing with Llandudno Town Band. I remember that we recorded our parts in Conwy Town Hall even though it\\''s supposed to sound like we\\''re playing on the bandstand on the prom.\r\nThe A side is Aberconwy stuff and the B side is completely Llandudno. It\\''s awful and probably kept people away. But, hey, it was the 70\\''s, decade of zero taste. \r\nCraig, do you want to PM me about how to send the sound to you. I can record it to a sound file of some description (I\\''m a bit green on this and if I ask my other half he gets SHOUTY at my pitiful ignorance  :( )
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A nice thought, SC, but why would someone want to spend money on purchasing and refurbishing the old Community Centre when there are empty shops ready and waiting to be occupied in both Queens Road and Mostyn Avenue?\r\n
\r\nNot all businesses operate from shop premises, Brian! \r\n\r\nSC'),

(1702, 'What we need is a busker’s free stage.  This could produce its own publicity and in the main be self regulating and costs nothing.\r\nWhat do you think?'),

(1705, 'I was a young attendee to Sunday school at a church/chapel on Mowbray Road, run by Mr Parks. Throughout the Summer we spent many fun times at the UBM on North Shore. During my days at Boys Brigade I attended St Johns on Mostyn Street. Holy Trinity Church has also been a favourite of mine around Christmas time.'),

(1706, 'We have a friendly prescence in the house. I have felt it and so has another person in the road.'),

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hi, i worked at the Grand in the  mid seventies and it was then owned by Trusthouse Forte.
\r\nWasn\\''t Stephen Capes, the Hotel Manager, around that time or was that later when it had been sold on to the Rank Organisation?
\r\nButlins (then owned by the Rank Organisation) bought the Grand Hotel from Trusthouse Forte in 1981. Rank sold off all of the Grand Hotels (which had by then been demerged from Butlins into a separate division) in 1998 to Britannia Hotels, who are the present owners.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nAgain just for reference, looking in one of my old holiday brochures here, in 1956 the resident manage was \\''D C Carter\\''.'),

(1709, 'Something interesting from this advert dated 1956, according to the ad there is said to be a garage with parking for 150 cars?!?!?!?!\r\n\r\nAnyone know where this garage is they are referring to??? It\\''d have to be a blinkin big one!\r\n\r\nCraig.'),

(8252, 'I read very interestingly the latest objections for windfarms off Llandudno\\''s bay as raised by Save our Scenery.\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n17/10/07 - frontpage cutting from the North Wales Pioneer.\r\n\r\nAs more this debate matures within my own thoughts the more I am swayed towards being against these proposals myself. Initially I was very much for the windfarm proposals yet the more evidence I am presented with the more I am deterred from my original thoughts. I most certainly would not want to be in the position of John Lawson-Reay who is campaigning as leader of SOS, or be in the shoes of the opposition as a representative for Npower, this debate has to be one of the most contraversial the town has faced yet.\r\n\r\nFeel free to share any thoughts or opinions you may have.'),

(1712, 'Have you had a look through these.\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northwest/sites/llandudno/pages/weird.shtml'),

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Oh yes I remember the Nun picture, but not sure which Nun it was. Pehaps Mother Consiglio? Do you remember "Fathers Van" - a green Transit driven by Father O\\''Donovan. What a great driver he was, saw him coming down the Orme in the snow one day, with a van load of children. He would drop everyone off, then stand by his van puffing away on a Doncella cigar.
\r\n\r\nLOL great driver?? I remember Fr Donovon was driving one day, he gave me a lift, as he pulled up at the school in the steep driveway, he failed to put the handbrake on, opened the door and jumped out to run in and give sr Aidrian a message. Leaving the van still rolling, gathering momentum towards Sisters green VW Beetle. There was an almighty bang and a dent to match. Bet he said a few Hail Mary`s that night.....lol'),

(1714, 'I can name one local character that will top all the others. AUNTY MEGAN, She was the agony aunt for the weekly news, there was the aunty megan club, complete with badge, I would love to know if anybody has one of these. She was as legendary in the Llandudno are with readers of "The North Wales Weekly News" as a "Jim fixed it for me" badge. So come on, who wrote in to her?'),

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In keeping with the interest these days in the environment, how about some form of nature reserve on the West Shore?  I\\''m not sure what state the sand dunes are in these days, but there is a vast expanse of land which  could be nurtured in this way. It seems to me that the area has just been left to deteriorate. .......
\r\n\r\nSand dune area - mostly used by dog owners to walk/relieve their dogs, some under the cover of darkness, I am assuming it is so they are not spotted not cleaning up after their dogs!! I have seen dog owners letting their dogs out of their cars, and the dogs just let loose to run off over the dunes, while they just follow slowly behind, with no idea where they need to clean up!\r\n\r\nI think there is a need for a couple of decent cafe/restaurants on the West Shore. It always has that \\''something missing\\'' feeling to me.\r\n\r\nThe Sandringham is really popular in the Summer, but could do with a bit of competition to keep it on it\\''s toes!
\r\n\r\nI`m a bit worried about these people relieving their dogs under the cover of darkness. Bit risque......lol
\r\n\r\nOh yes, I believe there is another name for them!  :lol:'),

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I worked there then as secretary to the general manager, we were searched 5 or 6 times a day!!
Karen
\r\n\r\nThat wasn\\''t Henry Collins was it?
Ken Roberts Chris, he was a great manager, Sue McNeil was Manageress, good friend of mine,Karen
\r\n\r\nI think that must have been a few years after. Didn\\''t Sue have a daughter called Eryl. She was seeing someone from \\''A Touch of Gold\\'' (resident band at St Georges) .....was it Douggie? If that was the same Sue I\\''m thinking of, she used to come in the Esplanade a lot with her husband and daughter. I was the barman there  :)'),

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Hi,\r\nIve just picked up a brilliant book from a charity shop, its the Llandudno & North Wales Illustrated Guide Book published by Ward, Lock & Co. I think it dates to somewhere around the early 1930\\''s.\r\nIts got some amazing illustrations / photos,adverts of all kinds,general info, maps and guides.
\r\n\r\nMines an Eleventh edition, should look into getting more of these\r\n as its a fantastic little book, see quite a few of them about too.'),

(6517, 'Looking at the pictures, I just wonder if someone has tripped on the paving slabs, you can see they are not level, and to be safe they have cordoned the area off to avoid anyone else tripping. There is a gap in the tape at the front enabling people to walk into the property thus avoiding the slabs. Just a thought. Perhaps an emergency measure. But yes, it would prove difficult for a blind person, and maybe the tape should be more visible in colour/s.'),

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We both went to St Mary\\''s College in Rhos-on-Sea (now demolished thank God).
\r\nWaffagolf, did I once play you in a table tennis league match there during the late sixties?   :lol:  '),

(1718, 'I\\''ve just been raiding Egg\\''s photo bucket and found another pic of George Brookes, he looks a fine young chap here doesnt he.\r\
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(1719, 'Who remembers Fred Davis and his wife who run the County Hotel, Craig-y-Don between c1950\\''s/70\\''s. Fred held the title as a World Snooker Champion.\r\n\r\nHere is a snippet about Fred...\r\n\r\nPaul McCartney never had Fred Davis in mind when he wrote ‘When I’m 64.’\r\n\r\nBut it was the perfect tune to accompany Fred’s appearance in the 1978 World Championship semi-finals.\r\n\r\nThe Derbyshire born cueman didn’t quite make it to the final-beaten by South African Perrie Mans- but it was still a remarkable performance by a man who first played at the championship just over half a century earlier.\r\n\r\nHe made his farewell appearance at the Crucible in 1984 but carried on playing on the professional circuit until 1992.\r\n\r\nWhen he finally hung up his cue Fred, younger brother of \\''Sultan of Snooker\\'' Joe Davis, was 78. Unsurprisingly, he was the oldest professional sportsman in the world at the time.\r\n\r\nIt brought an end to a remarkable career that yielded an MBE and the affection of the snooker watching public everywhere.\r\n\r\nFor long periods overshadowed by the exploits of Joe, he was in fact the only player to beat his older brother on level terms.\r\n\r\nBorn on August 13, 1913 Fred made his name initially as a billiards player, becoming National Under-16 champion followed by World Junior title winner.\r\n\r\nHis world snooker debut saw him lose to Welshman Bill Withers though Joe avenged the defeat with a 30-1 trouncing in the very next round. Long before Dennis Taylor became famous for his upside down specs, Fred cured his short-sightedness with a pair of swivel-lens glasses.\r\n \r\nThree semi-final appearances followed before the outbreak of World War Two when Fred served in the army.\r\nOn being de-mobbed and with Joe now retired, Fred’s world jinx struck once more against Walter Donaldson.  He reached the final this time but lost 82-63! Davis avenged his defeat in 1948 and added another seven titles between then and 1956. \r\n\r\nThe demise of the game saw Fred retire to his wife’s hotel in Llandudno and he lost in three world challenges against John Pulman. Despite a heart attack and the emergence of a new breed of player, Fred more than held his own. He twice captained England’s World Cup side and also won the World Billiards title in 1981 and 1982.\r\n\r\nOnly himself and Joe have ever done the double. \r\n\r\nAfter a life dominated by cue sport he died on April 16, 1998 just a couple of days before the start of that year’s world championship.'),

(1720, 'I think both of you have got good ideas. I also thought that the local amateur musical groups like Llandudno Musical Productions could stage the odd \\''mini show\\'' there to drum up interest for their main shows?\r\n\r\nThe area is certainly wasted at the moment - just a shame that the natural slope up the hill that formed the audience seating area was lost when they regraded the site. Still, there\\''s certainly potential to revive the 134 year old tradition of live entertainment at the Happy Valley at fairly low cost!\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1721, 'You guys certainly have a positive outlook on things, we\\''ve managed to get the balls rolling for the Alex Munro plaque, do you think we could get something off the ground in terms of bringing back entertainment in Happy Valley, it could be a huge headline for OLLE?!?!\r\n\r\nCraig  :D'),

(1722, 'Hi Gerald,\r\n\r\nI knew Aunty Megan very well.  She was a very good friend of mine\\''s mother. She came originally from the Liverpool area (I think) and her real married name was Olwen Exell. She wrote childrens books that were translated into Welsh. Living off Old Mill Road in Dwgyfylchi she and her husband Don (a lecturer) had 2 children Richard and Rhiannon.  Don passed away in the early eighties and Olwen, so many children\\''s dear Aunty Megan, left us a few years later. I was at school with Rhiannon and she was a very dear friend of mine. When I moved to London we gradually lost touch. In the mid nineties I received the shocking news that she had been killed in a road accident outside the Washington in Llandudno. She had 2 young children.  Richard is married and now an OBE for his work for the disabled.\r\nOlwen was an amazing character. Rhainnon had a few parties when we were 6th formers and Olwen would insist on meeting all the guests at the front door dressed in something glamourous. She once had some silver PVC trousers sent to her by mistake (don\\''t ask) and insisted I try them on. They were about 3 sizes too small but we alll struggled to pull them up as I wriggled on the hallway floor, in tears laughing as Olwen  said "Eggy darling, you have to suffer to be beautiful". Very much missed.'),

(1726, 'Yep, I\\''ve seen the BBc site, but what I\\''m really interested in more are the well known legends and myths surrounding Llandudno. But thanks for posting it Pobo  :)'),

(1727, 'hi,\r\n  do we know if the late great legend that was fred davis is buried in llandudno     \r\n                    cheers gazza'),

(10533, ':lol: \r\n\r\nI walked into that one, for clarity so far we potentially have...\r\n\r\nSo far we have Karen & hubby, Brian and wife?, Me and Sarah, Gerry and Carol, keep the ball rolling peeps!'),

(10534, 'Hi all, Due to personal family reasons its just me travelling back by myself i,m afraid but a night out would be great to meet up with you all, how about Thursday 26th April? sorry cant be the weekend as I wont be in llandudno for that coming weekend. Karen'),

(13878, 'I was wondering what forum member\\''s think of the multi-million pound "sweetener" that Npower have promised, which would be allocated across various communities on the North Wales coast?\r\n\r\nThey have also promised a "Llandudno Tourism Programme" linked to Gwynt-y-mor, which would mean an investment  of around 650,000 pounds spread over three years to benefit tourism in the area.'),

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Hi Gerald,\r\n\r\nI knew Aunty Megan very well.  She was a very good friend of mine\\''s mother. She came originally from the Liverpool area (I think) and her real married name was Olwen Exell. She wrote childrens books that were translated into Welsh. Living off Old Mill Road in Dwgyfylchi she and her husband Don (a lecturer) had 2 children Richard and Rhiannon.  Don passed away in the early eighties and Olwen, so many children\\''s dear Aunty Megan, left us a few years later. I was at school with Rhiannon and she was a very dear friend of mine. When I moved to London we gradually lost touch. In the mid nineties I received the shocking news that she had been killed in a road accident outside the Washington in Llandudno. She had 2 young children.  Richard is married and now an OBE for his work for the disabled.\r\nOlwen was an amazing character. Rhainnon had a few parties when we were 6th formers and Olwen would insist on meeting all the guests at the front door dressed in something glamourous. She once had some silver PVC trousers sent to her by mistake (don\\''t ask) and insisted I try them on. They were about 3 sizes too small but we alll struggled to pull them up as I wriggled on the hallway floor, in tears laughing as Olwen  said "Eggy darling, you have to suffer to be beautiful". Very much missed.
\r\n\r\nWell that was a fascinating insight, I remember most of us thought she was a made up agony aunt. I often think that the paper could do with a revisit from such a person.'),
(8184, 'Wow, Llandudno what a place to see\r\nUp the orme 2 quid for a cup of tea\r\nBeen away for quite a while\r\nLooking at the pictures on this site brings a smile.\r\n \r\nI like to share some of my memories of the town\r\nSome might smile some may frown\r\nIf you are a local like me I’m proud to say\r\nSome of these may take you back a way\r\n \r\nGrowing up in Hospital road on the hill\r\nAlways useful when a chase from traversee made you ill\r\nTreat of the week was down to the pool before it was sold\r\nWhen you left and turned the corner, God it was cold!\r\n \r\nEvery summer the fair came in,\r\nGet on the Waltzer and spin, spin, spin.\r\nGo crabbing on the rocks under the pier,\r\nSneak into Speakeasy, try to get a beer.\r\n \r\nSee all the tourists on the prom on their hols,\r\nHere comes Madam Bennett with a pram full of dolls.\r\nGo to the Goose watch the machine and bang on the side,\r\nFat Chris catches you; he’ll give you a ride.\r\n \r\nBest time of summer would be jumping off the pier,\r\nWatch for the cops; make sure the coast is clear\r\nLook on the beach find some nice shells,\r\nOn the way home stop for chips at tri-bells.\r\n \r\nSometimes go the West Shore and walk miles to the sea\r\nIt was good when nobody could see you do a pee\r\nLay there all day, no lotion we got tanned,\r\nShame nowadays it is covered with sand\r\n \r\nSo this is the end of my little ditty\r\nAbout my hometown, which is so pretty\r\nHope you enjoyed my trip down memory lane\r\nThanks a lot for the site that you maintain.\r\n \r\nBy Paul Ridler. Franklin, Tennessee, USA.'),,

(10071, 'Are you sure it\\''s nothing to do with the Tories in town for the conference. Men on the roof? Any sign of black helicopters hovering around? :wink:'),

(13872, 'At least it will tidy up that plot of land.\r\n\r\nIt is becoming untidy.\r\n\r\nApart from new homes, I really don\\''t know what else you could build on there.'),

(8987, 'Gwynedd Family History Society is based at \r\n\r\nCanolfan Bryn Ffynnon\r\nY Felinheli\r\nGwynedd\r\nLL56 4SX'),

(8989, 'Alphaline did post their weblink, though I have checked and this has since expired, if Alphaline or anyone else knows of an alternative link, please post it here.'),

(8988, 'The Queen also visited in 1963 when the (Royal) National Eisteddfod was held on Bodafon Fields.  She also visited the Town Hall and signed the photo which is still in the Council Chamber. There was a photo of her signing with Ernie Doherty, Council Chairman, which was published in the London Illustrated News.\r\n\r\nShe and the D of E arrived at Llandudno by the Royal Train leaving Euston at 10pm on Thursday, 8th August 1963 and arriving at No 3 Carriage siding in Cae Mawr in the early hours of Friday 9th. The train was then moved to Platform 3 arriving at 10 am.  The Royal Party after their Llandudno duties re-boarded the Royal Train at Conwy at 1150 - so not a very long stop!\r\n\r\nAs an interesting aside, this visit lead to the naming of Ffordd Elisabeth and Ffordd yr Orsedd (after the gorsedd stones in Happy Valley).'),

(1763, 'There is an excavator clearing the stones from the beach by the jetty this afternoon.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(1757, 'Rocky reception for beach stones
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Sun, sea, sand - and rocks, but some want the stones cleared\r\n\r\nStones used to protect a holiday resort from storms have led to complaints they are ruining its beach\\''s sandy image. \r\nThe RNLI\\''s lifeboat launch vehicle has been damaged, and a donkey ride owner is also worried about her business at Llandudno\\''s North Beach. \r\n\r\nThey want the local council to clear the stones before the summer season. \r\n\r\nConwy Council has acknowledged the problem, but said the stones were an effective sea defence and it was not practical to clear all the beach. \r\n\r\nConcerned donkey owner Olwen Burroughs, 81, whose family has run rides along the beach since 1879, said if the problem persisted her animals would not be able to use it.\r\n\r\nLow tide \r\n\r\nShe said: "The council brought the stones in to prevent flooding in the town and said they would not move from the bottom of the steps on the promenade, but the stones now go all the way down to the sea when the tide is out. \r\n\r\n"There\\''s no room for the children to play on the sand. It\\''s very stony and difficult for people to use the beach." \r\n\r\nShe added that in the past wooden groynes were placed along the beach and these stopped the stones moving around. \r\n\r\n"The council do move the stones back, but the sea then carries them onto the sand again," she said. \r\n\r\n"Something needs to be done." \r\n\r\nThe RNLI lifeboat launch vehicle was damaged by stones at the beginning of April. \r\n\r\n"We had an emergency call out when there was a particularly low tide and we could not launch from our usual slipway," said Alan Sharp from the RNLI.\r\n\r\n"As a result we had to launch at another point along the beach and even there the tracks of the launching tractor were damaged by the stones." \r\n\r\nFollowing a meeting with Conwy council the RNLI was told the stones would be cleared, he said. \r\n\r\n"We will be happy if the work is done as quickly as possible," Mr Sharp added. \r\n\r\nEsther Roberts from North Wales Tourism said more should be done to clear the stones from the beach. \r\n\r\n"I appreciate the work the council has already done but hope that they will do more to improve the situation, she said. \r\n\r\nBarbara Wilson, on a visit to Llandudno with schoolchildren from Worcester, said she was disappointed with the lack of sand. \r\n\r\n"It is very stony and they can\\''t do sand sculpture as we had hoped, but the children are still enjoying themselves," she said. \r\n\r\nConwy Council acknowledged the problem, but said it was only possible to partially clear the stones which were placed in 1996 and 2000 along the town\\''s North Shore. \r\n\r\n"The cobbled material has since provided an effective primary sea defence to the promenade and town," said council engineer Andrew Wilkinson. \r\n\r\nAfter this winter\\''s storms, rocks and cobble covered a larger area of the sandy lower shore than is usual, he added. \r\n\r\n"This is due to both movement from the upper shore and cyclical beach level changes. \r\n\r\n"It is not practical to remove all stones from the lower beach, but we can work on specific areas according to user needs," he said. \r\n\r\nARTICLE COURTESY OF THE BBC:\r\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/6608977.stm'),

(1759, 'Stone defences used to protect Llandudnos bay from storms have led to complaints they are ruining the beach\\''s \\''sandy image\\''. An RNLI lifeboat launch vehicle has been damaged and local donkey ride owner is worried about her business at Llandudno\\''s North Shore Beach. Local residents have asked for the local council to clear the stones before the Summer season. Conwy Council has acknowledged the problem, but said \\''the stones are an effective sea defence and it is not practical to clear all the beach\\''.\r\n\r\nConcerned donkey owner Olwen Burroughs, 81, whose family has run rides along the beach since 1879, said if the problem persisted her animals would not be able to use it.\r\n\r\nShe said: "The council brought the stones in to prevent flooding in the town and said they would not move from the bottom of the steps on the promenade, but the stones now go all the way down to the sea when the tide is out. There\\''s no room for the children to play on the sand. It\\''s very stony and difficult for people to use the beach".\r\n\r\nEsther Roberts from North Wales Tourism said more should be done to clear the stones from the beach.\r\n\r\nBarbara Wilson, on a visit to Llandudno with schoolchildren from Worcester, said she was disappointed with the lack of sand.\r\n\r\nHave YOUR SAY here at Llandudno Enthusiasts!'),

(1761, 'Anyone remember the time in March 1979 when the Marine Drive was blocked by snow?  I was in charge of the Red Garages Cambrian Rally and we delayed the start (from 9am) to see what could be done - the answer was not a lot, and with the forest of Coed-y-Brenin also snowbound we had to cancel the rally - crews had struggled to get to Llandudno from as far as Sussex, only to be told to go back home!\r\n\r\nStrangely, it also snowed heavily when we ran the event the following year (March 1980) but that only affected the Beddgelert forest.\r\n\r\nNow there\\''s another thread - anyone remember Red Garages, and the Avenger they used to rally? (I was the navigator!).');

(1764, 'Other resorts are striving to take first place as Llandudno continues to sit back and do nothing, making very little progression! It could be argued and put down to \\''changing times\\'' but this is simply not the answer we want, local authorities do far more less in this day and age to promote the town as they once did, attractions are dwindling and hotels are closing and Llandudno fail to provide for the younger generation.\r\n\r\nThis town once had several cinemas/theatres of its own\r\nThis may be put down to changing times, but for some of the buildings the heritage has been lost forever, the present pavilion site has remained in its present state for over 10 years! Llandudno Junction doesnt seem to be doing too badly though does it???\r\n\r\nThis town once had its own ice rink\r\nChanging times? Many would disagree and praise such a facility in this town.\r\n\r\nThis town once had more pubs/clubs than it has today\r\nWhat happened to the Roman Bar? 007 Club, Beachcombers Bar and the o? What about many of the smaller public bars in the hotels themselves?
\r\n\r\nThis town once had more hotels/guest houses than today\r\nThe Argyle, Gogarth Abbey, Craigside Hydro, Ormescliffe, Tudno Castle? theres a few big ones to mention, what about many of the smaller guest houses in this town, it is most probably a fact that they would have once taken more visitors collectively than the larger hotels put together. If tourism did come back, we have lost this buffer forever, as many have now been turned into flats and housing or even demolished.\r\n\r\nThis town once had over 50 trains a day several carriages long\r\nAgain this could be attributed to changing times, yet how can public transport be encouraged when rail companies moan about additional costs of adding one single carriage to a train, how on earth did they cope back then? The truth is we simply dont have the capacity to bring back strong rail travel now, many of the sidings and additional platforms have been removed from service, then train tickets arent exactly cheap are they?\r\n\r\nThis town once had more live entertainment than today\r\nLong gone are the days of Alex Murno and Orchestral Concerts, Music Hall Style Entertainment, the Happy Valley Entertainers Stage is now a cafeteria with a childrens park on the rear.\r\n\r\nThis town once had regular steamer sailings from the pier.\r\nI\\''ve yet to see an empty boat on the \\''occasional\\'' steamer sailings from the Pier, changing times, I think not.\r\n\r\nThis town once had a small funfair of its own\r\nTheres enough complaints about the Extravaganza it seems?  :? Without Alex Munro to entertain, and the lack of sand for a bucket and spade, or even cinema to go to, Llandudno fails to provide for young families with children\r\n\r\nLlandudno however does move forward strongly as a major retail player attracting shoppers from as far afield as Chester and Holyhead, yet the tourist industry is being ignored. We cant afford to lose our towns traditions or values.\r\n\r\nHow long will our traditional returning OAP keep coming, because i\\''m sure they arent immortal? This isnt an attack on the older generation, but an eye opener for the local authorities and groups who say they stand for so much but do little, living for today, but not for tomorrow.\r\n\r\nThe Editor, Craig Ollerton,\r\nLlandudno Enthusiast Group'),

(1767, 'Hello there! \r\nTo Snakecorp - it is difficult to say if the Happy Valley would have carried on as I know there were a few people on the council at the time who were opposed to Dads efforts at the Valley and I believe that they were hoping to try and attract a "younger" clientele with a different type of entertainment there but as Dad became ill in the October it was obvious he would be unable to carry on there the next year and subsequently no other shows were put on - indeed the place was flattened!  I would have loved to be able to try and recreate a similar show - ideally situated at the Happy Valley but as always with so many things, it all comes down to money and it would need a huge injection of cash just to get it up and running. The other problem is that were are living in a different time now -although I do still believe that there is a market for that type of show today. What do you think?  Best wishes  Anna-Marie'),

(1768, 'A very big hello to the Reverend Bellamy from Anna-Marie!  How lovely to hear from you through this site and thank you very much for your letters proposing a plaque. \r\nI have, thanks to Craig, spoken to a Mr Stuart Rivers and he sounded very hopeful that a plaque may be acceptable to the council in memory of my Dad and his work at Happy Valley. \r\nI also believe that Stans wife Ness is still living at the same address in Deganwy - I have been in touch a few times but of course not as often as one should and not for some time now.\r\nI am delighted to hear that Billy Bennett lived out his days in peace - I remember seeing him a couple of times in Colwyn Bay a few years ago and trying to talk to him but I dont think he had a clue who I was!\r\nBest wishes  Anna-Marie'),

(1770, 'Hi \r\ni`ve seen a lot of about Tony Boyle on here ,having died, but i can honestly say that up to 2 wks ago he hadn`t, because i was talking to him\r\noutside  a shop.\r\nDave.'),

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We have a friendly prescence in the house. I have felt it and so has another person in the road.
\r\n\r\nHave you found out anything about the history of your house Rosa ? Maybe its connected to that ?\r\n\r\nKate'),

(1773, 'Ok to start the ball rolling here\\''s a few I\\''ve found...\r\n\r\nFfynnon Powell\r\n\r\nPowell\\''s Well is one of the many springs rising on the Orme, and never seems to dry up. A local story tells how one day the spring rose from nowhere. After a family dispute, the Powell family were in great need of water, and went to pray at St Tudno\\''s church. On their return they found the spring!\r\n\r\nMarl Hall\r\n\r\nSupposedly the inspiration for Thomas Hoods poem " The Haunted House"\r\nhttp://www.litgothic.com/Texts/haunted_house.html\r\n\r\nGloddaeth Woods\r\n\r\nOne night in the Gloddaeth Woods, near Llandudno, a poacher climbed a tree overlooking a foxes\\'' den. As he sat patiently waiting to bag the foxes, he heard an eerie moaning noise coming towards him through the woods.\r\nThen \\''a horrible sight was presented to the frightened man\\''s view\\'':\r\nThere he saw before him, a nude being with eyes burning like fire, and these glittering balls were directed towards him. The awful being was only a dozen or so yards off.\r\n"And now it crouched, and now it stood erect, but never for a single instant withdrew its terrible eyes from the miserable man in the tree, who would have fallen to the ground were it not for the protecting boughs."\r\nThe horrible thing kept the poor man in this state of dread all night. At last, the sun rose and the apparition vanished.\r\nWhatever it was no one knows, but it could be haunting that woodland still.'),

(6526, 'Eryl is now Eryl Restall. She married John the bass guitarist from \\''Touch of Gold\\'' a few years ago. Eryl is now a singer and works the pubs and hotels in the area, sometimes as a solo singer and at times with husband John. They both performed at the Cross Keys in Madoc street recently.\r\n\r\nI saw Terry Dando the drummer from \\''Touch of Gold\\'' over the weekend. His parents used to own Dando\\''s in Colwyn Bay, opposite Woolworth right by the Zebra Crossings). We both went to St Mary\\''s College in Rhos-on-Sea (now demolished thank God).\r\n\r\nDoug Holland (keyboards) went solo some years ago. I haven\\''t seen or heard of him in years. TOG played at the St George\\''s Hotel for years, very popular they were too (in the days when Michael Forte owned the hotel).'),

(10991, 'There was also Tan y Bryn in Tan y Bryn Road, a boys\\'' school I think.'),

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Hey everyone, \r\n                      First off I\\''m glad I found this site, because I\\''m desperate for a bit of local help, and you sound like the right people to ask. I\\''m trying to find my dad\\''s biological family, or even just a bit more information about them.  I don\\''t have a lot to go on, only a few details about his mother, and as I\\''m up in Scotland I can\\''t really check it out myself!\r\n\r\nHer name was Edna Millin, and she lived in Llandudno from 1944-1947. The address I have is Burnage House, Albion Street (from some messy writing on a photocopied scrap of paper, so maybe something similar?) I realise that this is a needle in a haystack sort of thing, but anything seems to be worth a try!\r\n\r\nAny information about any Millins in the area or even the address, as google maps tells me that Albion Street still exists, but cannot pinpoint a Burnage House. \r\n\r\n(Johns is also a possible last name if she retained her married name)
\r\nI suppose I could do, Trojan, but Phillips may get more satisfaction in telephoning Brenda Butterworth direct as  the Butterwoth\\''s telephone number is available online with the BT telephone directory.\r\n\r\nI think her mother\\''s name maybe Mrs Davies.  :wink: '),

(1777, 'Hello again\r\n\r\nI hope that noone has posted about this somewhere and I have missed it, as I did with the Happy Valley :oops: .\r\n\r\nJust been for a great day day walking on and round the Great Orme, and I walked down "Millionaires Row". Partway down is the Old Abbey, which I gather has closed. The front door to the gatheouse has clearly been broken into. It was, apparently, renovated as a Railway Convalescent Home as late as 2001. \r\n\r\nDoe anyone know when and why it closed, and what is likely to happen to it?\r\n\r\nRegards\r\n\r\nLT\r\n\r\nGreat site and great forum, btw :D .'),

(6514, 'Does this count  :D  :D  :D  :-\
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(1781, 'Thanks for that Dave, we\\''ll get the relevant posts corrected, its all too easy to get the wrong information from time to time. Send our regards to Tony or shall we say \\''Mr Llandudno\\'' when you see him.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(1782, 'There is clearly a changing trend across most seaside towns due to a variety of factors, short-haul flights to the likes of sunny spain may be one of them for example.\r\n\r\nHowever your right in what your saying, Llandudno may fail to hold the capacity of a tourist boom in the future, as quite rightly pointed, i\\''d certainly say more than half the hotels have closed in town, from small B&B\\''s, guest houses to larger hotels. Yes Llandudno may be catering for the more discerning guest and heightening its standards across a more finite array of accommodation, hotel prices have risen sharply to reflect that too. Llandudno no longer caters for families on a tight budget, nor does it have half as many facilities and entertainments as it once did. Changing times may be a key factor, but Llandudno has the potential to bring back the crouds staying the tradional week holiday, yet local authorities are doing nothing to push the resort town forward other than rely on private investment.\r\n\r\nRichard Sutton,\r\nHistorian for Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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I worked there then as secretary to the general manager, we were searched 5 or 6 times a day!! Karen
\r\n\r\nThat wasn\\''t Henry Collins was it?
Ken Roberts Chris, he was a great manager, Sue McNeil was Manageress, good friend of mine,Karen
\r\n\r\nI think that must have been a few years after. Didn\\''t Sue have a daughter called Eryl. She was seeing someone from \\''A Touch of Gold\\'' (resident band at St Georges) .....was it Douggie? If that was the same Sue I\\''m thinking of, she used to come in the Esplanade a lot with her husband and daughter. I was the barman there  :)
You\\''re absolutely right Chris, Karen'),
(1788, 'Hi LT,\r\nWhen you say Millionaires Row, do you mean Llys Helig Drive ? If thats the one then there was a planning application for apartments and flats I think in about 2003 but it was withdrawn.\r\nHowever Penrhyn Homes have a future development on Llys Helig Drive but I have no further details on it as yet.\r\nThe Old Abbey Hotel changed its name and its use in 1947 to The Railway Convalescent Home.\r\n\r\nKate'),

(1789, 'Aaaaand I\\''ve just found this article :\r\n \r\nGareth Hughes, Daily Post    Thursday, December 02, 2004\r\n\r\n\r\nA Convalescent home fined £5,000 two weeks ago after a food-poisoning incident is to close. During a hearing Llandudno Magistrates were told if losses at the Railway Convalescent Home, near Llandudno\\''s West Shore, continued the home could close within seven or eight years. Yesterday however, the home\\''s trustees announced that the home will close early next year. "It has been brought about by a continuing decline in the use of the convalescent facilities despite substantial investment in buildings and amenities in recent years," said a spokesman. The charity will continue to run a home in Dawlish, Devon. The Princess Royal, who is patron of the charity, visited the Llandudno home three years ago to mark a £1.5m refit. At last month\\''s court hearing the home pleaded guilty to two charges arising from the use of slightly cooked eggs in an egg nog coffee pie in April. After eating the sweet 15 people, including the home\\''s second chef, were taken ill. The company\\''s solicitor said the last five years had been difficult for the charity, with costs exceeding income. Despite cost-cutting there was a current loss of £230,000. The charity employs 73 people between the two homes, looking after 3,500 guests annually.\r\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\r\nSo i guess it closed in 2005 beware the egg nog lol  :lol:'),

(1791, 'A jewish community own it now and they are turning it into a type of Mother and Baby home, they also own 2 properties further down.'),

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How long will our traditional returning OAP keep coming, because i\\''m sure they arent immortal?  
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(1793, 'They have a property in Church Walks and to put it mildly the outside is a tip.'),

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\r\n\r\nYes I have researched the house\\''s history back to the late 1840s--- see last week\\''s Weekly News, despite the naming error Mary came all the way from Colorado to sleep in her Great Great Grandfather\\''s bedroom !\r\nThe picture is Mary and her husband, not myself !'),

(1795, 'Um....\r\n\r\nMany thanks for filling in the gap in knowledge so rapidly.\r\n\r\nI did see one demonstrably Orthodox couple by the old Gogarth Abbey. My wife is from an Orthodox background (not practicing any more) and commented that, because of the culinary requirements, many Orthodox families will not go on holiday unless the special kitchen arrangments are met.\r\n\r\nIs there a synagogue in Llandudno?\r\n  \r\nLT'),

(1796, 'Thanks for keeping us informed Snakecorp, I will try grab a picture tomorrow to see what the state of the beach is like after.\r\n\r\nCheers, Craig.'),

(1797, 'While I am in broad agreement I would like to point out that we Hoteliers do also cater for families on a budget.\r\nA family room at £50 Bed, Breakfast, tea/ coffee& biscuits in room with flat screen Digital TV with Free view, DVD/CD player and Play station with free film library and Daily newspaper and free internet access ait bad for 3 people on budget.\r\nI am not alone especially among the smaller operators.  Our problem is that we have no one promoting us.'),

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Um....\r\n\r\nMany thanks for filling in the gap in knowledge so rapidly.\r\n\r\nI did see one demonstrably Orthodox couple by the old Gogarth Abbey. My wife is from an Orthodox background (not practicing any more) and commented that, because of the culinary requirements, many Orthodox families will not go on holiday unless the special kitchen arrangments are met.\r\n\r\nIs there a synagogue in Llandudno?\r\n  \r\nLT
\r\n\r\nThere is a synagogue/retreat in Church Walks, just across the road from Escape. I think it\\''s the same property that Rosa is referring to above.\r\n\r\nSC'),

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While I am in broad agreement I would like to point out that we Hoteliers do also cater for families on a budget.\r\nA family room at £50 Bed, Breakfast, tea/ coffee& biscuits in room with flat screen Digital TV with Free view, DVD/CD player and Play station with free film library and Daily newspaper and free internet access ait bad for 3 people on budget.\r\nI am not alone especially among the smaller operators.  Our problem is that we have no one promoting us.
\r\n\r\nWheres that ?? That sounds nice for my holiday !'),

(1802, 'Getting back on topic, out of interest for those who live in Llanduno, where do you go on holidays ? I live in Nottingham and go to Llandudno...don`t recommend coming to Nottingham  for your holidays, but if anyone wants to house swap for two weeks in July you are welcome :-) I`ll even water your plants'),

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Hello there! \r\nTo Snakecorp - it is difficult to say if the Happy Valley would have carried on as I know there were a few people on the council at the time who were opposed to Dads efforts at the Valley and I believe that they were hoping to try and attract a "younger" clientele with a different type of entertainment there but as Dad became ill in the October it was obvious he would be unable to carry on there the next year and subsequently no other shows were put on - indeed the place was flattened!  I would have loved to be able to try and recreate a similar show - ideally situated at the Happy Valley but as always with so many things, it all comes down to money and it would need a huge injection of cash just to get it up and running. The other problem is that were are living in a different time now -although I do still believe that there is a market for that type of show today. What do you think?  Best wishes  Anna-Marie
\r\n\r\nHi Anna,\r\n\r\nThanks for your thoughts, they are much appreciated. We talked about the last days of the Open Air Theatre and whether it could be revived over in this other thread:\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=252\r\n\r\nWe are living in different times but I do agree that a similar type of show would still work, assuming a good bit of promotion was carried out. The main problem with restarting the shows is that the area has been altered during the renovations in 2001 and would require a bit of work to recreate the amphitheatre/rebuild the stage etc. I\\''m wondering if any Lottery funding may be available?\r\n\r\nDave'),

(1808, 'Oh Dear sorry clive didnt mean to offend, but that is  what the people who have bought the Old Abbey are referred to by the locals  who have spoke to about it ,it is not meant to be in a racist way. I went to Stella Maris and Loreto and when me and my classmates joined up with John Brights we were know as the Catholics! It sounds that us locals need to brush up on our polical correctioness ,sorry again!'),

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While I am in broad agreement I would like to point out that we Hoteliers do also cater for families on a budget.\r\nA family room at £50 Bed, Breakfast, tea/ coffee& biscuits in room with flat screen Digital TV with Free view, DVD/CD player and Play station with free film library and Daily newspaper and free internet access ait bad for 3 people on budget.\r\nI am not alone especially among the smaller operators.  Our problem is that we have no one promoting us.
\r\n\r\nWheres that ?? That sounds nice for my holiday !
\r\n\r\nThere you go, free advertising for you Gerry ;)\r\n\r\n\\''I agree, superb value indeed, i\\''ve been inside Gerrys Hotel, it\\''s immaculate, good position too, a couple minute walk from the pier entrance, just off of Upper Mostyn St. Gerry can you provide the gent with further details?\r\n\r\nThanks, Craig.'),

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Getting back on topic, out of interest for those who live in Llanduno, where do you go on holidays ? I live in Nottingham and go to Llandudno...don`t recommend coming to Nottingham  for your holidays, but if anyone wants to house swap for two weeks in July you are welcome :-) I`ll even water your plants
\r\n\r\nI dont really go on holiday to be honest, i\\''m living in Wigan as some of you know, so Llandudno really is a bit of a holiday for me for the time being (until I move back end of this year). I do also go to Blackpool occasionally to see my girlfriend. When i\\''m in Llandudno, it is a good central location to explore the outreaches of the North Wales region. So on a positive side Llandudno has always had location going for it.'),

(8183, 'The Queen of all the Welsh resorts\r\nHas stood for many year\r\nLets glance around this seaside town\r\nFirstly from the pier\r\n\r\nWith arcade games and gifts to buy\r\nCafes for your tea\r\nFisherman stood still for hours\r\nA hotel too grand for me!\r\n\r\nThe Orme so great above the town\r\nA tram ride to behold\r\nThe White House that commands such views\r\nSaint Tudnos church below\r\n\r\nThen on to Happy Valley Gardens\r\nTo sit and pass the time\r\nThen saunter down to Mostyn Street\r\nTo drink and shop and dine.\r\n\r\nAnd as the sun is setting \r\nUpon the sights we`ve seen\r\nLet walk slowly past the crashing waves \r\nAlong the drive Marine\r\n\r\nTheres lot of other places\r\nWe could have stopped along the way\r\nBut that is why we all go back\r\nTo enjoy another day.\r\n\r\nBy ABJ3500'),
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2011, 04:06:02 PM »

(1859, '
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There is an excavator clearing the stones from the beach by the jetty this afternoon.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nLets hope they dont leave it there like the one I saw in I think one of your photo`s....lol if it was your photo album, please give a link for all to see.'),
(1860, 'I am amazed at two things, firstly since the council moved their depot away from Llandudno, the estates don`t get cleaned as often as they used to. Even town is littered everywhere. Now all of this would be no bother if people of all ages did not litter, or if they did their bit to recycle etc. Now this is my second problem, why is it that the council in Llandudno seem to be the only ones who are not force-ing the public to recycle, in my street we have the usual black wheelie bin, and a once a week collection. Great, but all my friends out of Llandudno are on recycling boxes and fortnightly collections, some for over a year now.  Is this about to change? or are we a bit behind in Llandudno. What does everyone think about thier collections? Granted there are plenty of recycling banks, but even these are too full half of the time.'),
(1861, '
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We would like to hear the experiences of anyone trying to get onto the property ladder in Llandudno, or perhaps you\\''ve already made it? How do local salaries weigh against mortgage repayments and sustainable living costs?
\r\n\r\nI have notice recently a lot of ex council properties being signposted "For Let", this is no surprise as it is so hard to get on the property ladder when the local wage is way below par.'),
(1862, '
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Maybe next year OLLE can put on some sort of display?
\r\n\r\nGood idea Sue, was thinking along the same lines myself, not sure what though yet, will put my thinking cap on.'),
(1865, 'HELLO .  Craig you are wrong about  the shops, i have worked for a store here for 24 years (how sad is that) and every Victorian weekend we are  absolutely dead. hubby was in Mostyn St this morn (Sat ) and several shopkeepers told him this was their most quiet weekemd of their year so in my opinion the only people making money this weekend are hotels. pubs cafes restaurants. and the fairground people( the cost of the rides this year -enough said) to me there is something about  the whole that is boring i dont know why cant put my figure on it .perhaps  if the whole town were involved it would be different. I have noticed everyone  so far who have praised it on here  doesnt live here! p,s  LLANRWST was lovely today even in the rain)'),
(1884, '
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I think possibly, the shops want the bank holiday to bring in tourists who shop, but instead this event keeps shoppers away from them, and brings in people who will enjoy the event and are here solely for that. So the majority of people it will work for is the catering and hospitality side. We cant keep everyone happy unless it didn`t occupy all the town, then we would Llandudno would have the problem that some streets would say they miss out. Is there any shop/cafe/hotel/BB owners out there who have an opinion? Actually, maybe this should be in the debate section.
\r\n\r\nFor some Gerald, the Extravaganza Event is for some their first visit to Llandudno, you talk about shoppers, fair enough, but let we not forget about our Tourism trade. The Extravaganza sets the foundations solid for anyone who has not visited the town before, those visitors which may return again.\r\n\r\nAs for shops, i\\''m not quite sure what shops everyone are referring to, but Parc Llandudno seemed fairly busy, ASDA seemed fairly busy, Mostyn Champneys seemed fairly busy, the pier shops fairly busy, so perhaps this is something more centered around the towns main street, it could be the more obscure shops that lose out i.e. jewellery shops, furnishings, card shops, book shops, some clothing, holiday agents. Or are we talking about the likes of M&S? Let we not forget some of these smaller shops no bigger than your lounge in some cases, such as cafes, gift shops have to pay upwards of £35,000 rent per annum, extortionate council taxes, and bills, they rely on the good times to make up for the bad times, otherwise we might as well see many of these smaller shops which make up a good proportion of trade in town, closed for the Winter.'),
(1868, 'hi the goats wander down to Abbey Road somethimes but i dont think\r\n they go any further so residents of Llandudno wont have seen them LOL sorry just can imagine in town going shopping in Parc  Llandudno hic'),
(1869, 'Hi , we decided a few weeks ago to recycle all our papers and wine bottles and we cant believe how much lighter our bin is!'),
(1870, 'I wasn\\''t referring to the charity shops but the charity stalls lining Mostyn street, they all looked quite similar, and could have got more attention by being a bit different, I went in a few charity shops which did look great and they seemed to be quite busy. I suppose that the many  people who normally visit Llandudno town only  for shopping would avoid it on Extravaganza weekend anyway. The shops seem to do pretty well on the 36o odd  days of the year that the Extravaganza isn\\''t on. \r\nI live in Ruthin and a few years ago we had a weekly Medieval market where  stallholders would dress up in costume and sell craft items. There would be coaches stopping here and it was great for tourists who stay in the hotels in Ruthin which is ordinarily a fairly quiet town. Many of the local shops didn\\''t seem to like it much, didn\\''t really join in and the market place is now a car park, which is a shame. \r\nDenbigh and Ruthin both have music festivals each year that attract large crowds, maybe not on the same scale as Llandudno but they are popular with locals and visitors alike there\\''s always a great atmosphere. \r\nMaybe something like a music festival for young people would be a draw for Llandudno, but perhaps the locals wouldn\\''t like that either.'),
(1864, '
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I must add to my comments before, something that this quoted post has reminded me about. The first Victorian Extravaganza event, saw a large number of shops window dressed in victorian style, very impressive. But all I noticed this time was I think, every single charity shop made the the effort to put a big display in their windows, full marks to them. Of course with out a doubt all the cafe`s will make a killing, and hotels the like. I must admit, the "Jack the Ripper" event took me by surprise, although it sounded interesting, not quite sure if it was the place or not. "Future of Llandudno" is a quote I have heard, a tourist attraction this avent surely is, but for how long will we keep Llandudno Victorian? Should we even? After all, it did have a good history in the following generations too, maybe we should remember a swinging Llandudno.....60s that is, before anyone makes seedy comments....lol  Also I will repeat what I said in an earlier post, the organisers have certainly worked hard all round for this event.
\r\n\r\nUnfortunately I wasnt around during some of the earliest Extravaganza events, but further encouragement is needed to get shops to play their part. However, you may have missed a few, I did notice one shop keeper playing her part opposite North Western Gardens on the same corner as the Broadway Hotel, sitting in a rocking chair knitting in the front of her shop window, in victorian dress. There was a little push in the Extravaganza magazine asking for shops and locals alike to play their part, maybe something for them to take note for next year.\r\n\r\nOn talk of Llandudno\\''s Heritage, you can never take away its Victorian Elegance, it is embedded deep within the heart of the town, you would have to literally demolish the buildings and edifices throughout the town to do so. But to ploy on other eira\\''s attributed to the towns history, even though you state quite rightly the town is rich in, may be out the question. The sad part is these attributes have been lost forever, many smaller pubs have closed, entertainments such as Winter Gardens, Paynes, Cafe Royal and The Clock are gone forever. The memories do however live on through local renuions etc.\r\n\r\nTo reminisce on Winter Gardens or Paynes, please click the following link:\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(1872, '
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I wasn\\''t referring to the charity shops but the charity stalls lining Mostyn street, they all looked quite similar, and could have got more attention by being a bit different, I went in a few charity shops which did look great and they seemed to be quite busy. I suppose that the many  people who normally visit Llandudno town only  for shopping would avoid it on Extravaganza weekend anyway. The shops seem to do pretty well on the 36o odd  days of the year that the Extravaganza isn\\''t on. \r\nI live in Ruthin and a few years ago we had a weekly Medieval market where  stallholders would dress up in costume and sell craft items. There would be coaches stopping here and it was great for tourists who stay in the hotels in Ruthin which is ordinarily a fairly quiet town. Many of the local shops didn\\''t seem to like it much, didn\\''t really join in and the market place is now a car park, which is a shame. \r\nDenbigh and Ruthin both have music festivals each year that attract large crowds, maybe not on the same scale as Llandudno but they are popular with locals and visitors alike there\\''s always a great atmosphere. \r\nMaybe something like a music festival for young people would be a draw for Llandudno, but perhaps the locals wouldn\\''t like that either.
\r\n\r\nI think possibly, the shops want the bank holiday to bring in tourists who shop, but instead this event keeps shoppers away from them, and brings in people who will enjoy the event and are here solely for that. So the majority of people it will work for is the catering and hospitality side. We cant keep everyone happy unless it didn`t occupy all the town, then we would Llandudno would have the problem that some streets would say they miss out. Is there any shop/cafe/hotel/BB owners out there who have an opinion? Actually, maybe this should be in the debate section.'),
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Hi , we decided a few weeks ago to recycle all our papers and wine bottles and we cant believe how much lighter our bin is!
\r\n\r\nDid you have any problem with the recycle banks being full at all? I think the main problem with recycling is to do with plastics on food packaging.'),
(10711, 'I\\''d just like to say what an absolute pleasure it has been being involved with Tudno FM over the last few months.  I was welcomed on board as a volunteer and given lots of opportunities, like many others, to be part of this community radio station.\r\n\r\nIn the time I have been there I have seen NO ONE turned away and everyone who has been involved has shown a great deal of enthusiasm and support for the project.... with the exception of a few.  \r\n\r\nI have been reading this forum with great interest and am starting to think a number of people wanted to see this project fail before it even started.   Criticism of the work that has been put in by over 130 volunteers has been unconstructive and mostly unfounded.  Of course we want people\\''s feedback but any one can tell us how NOT to do it, it\\''s the people who have suggestions of ways to improve that we want to hear and that we will listen to.  \r\n\r\nThe unfortunate side effect of creating anything within a community is the politics that goes with it.  Perhaps if people were more focused on the community aspect rather than their own agendas we could be more pro-active in ensuring this fantastic little radio station is the local success story that it deserves to be.\r\n\r\nThere\\''s no \\''I\\'' in Tudno.......'),
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hi the goats wander down to Abbey Road somethimes but i dont dont think\r\n they go any further so residents of Llandudno wont have seen them LOL sorry just can imagine in town going shopping in Parc  Llandudno hic
\r\n\r\nI have seen them as far as Great Ormes road by the old wedgewood shops, costcutter. Must admit, I was worried about the car while I went for the paper. Experienced something similar once, when I lived in Maes y cwm by the hospital, went to get the milk in off the step and was face to face with a donkey, It woke me up for sure.....lol  They had wandered down off cwm mountain.'),
(10710, 'I see the heavy lifting ship "Svanen" is now off the coast. I suppose it is getting ready to build the wind farm. Just time for a last look at our lovely view from the promenade!'),
(1877, 'It wasn\\''t too long ago that the shops would be closed every Sunday and every Wednesday afternoon! 7 days a week shopping has brought in many of the big high street names which to me has robbed Llandudno of some of its charm, particularly the monstrosity Parc Llandudno. Smaller shops have more to gain by joining in or having some of the attractions. Madoc street comes to mind'),
(1878, 'We get a kerbside collection every other Monday for papers, tins and bottles. We take our plastic waste to a recycling skip in a car park in Ruthin but it is usually full and we have to take it to the tip. I\\''m surprised there isn\\''t a collection in Llandudno'),
(1880, 'Mmm --I have to agree with some comments and not others, I only dress up for the parade to give my support to those who obviously work hard for the event. Having been there, done that and bought the T - Shirt for many years in Yorkshire, I know what goes into these type of things. Alot of time and effort!\r\nI popped into a couple of shops on Saturday-- Poundstretcher being one , and they were literally heaving with people-----??????? Queuing at the tills ! I joke not I had to queue to pay for my picture frame that i wanted for a guest who\\''s photo I had taken in the costume which I loaned her.\r\nI personally could do without the noisy show in upper Mostyn Street---BUT that is perhaps an age thing ! I\\''m sure it pleased some. Having said that I attended the Marty Wilde show last night and it was very noisy, but excellent and packed to the doors.\r\nThe fairground in the streets I can take or leave, but it is nice to see so many people young and old enjoying themselves. I always go for a look if I have time, never managed to have long enough to get down to Bodafon, but I am assured that it is very good.\r\nThere is good and bad in all things !'),
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I am amazed at two things, firstly since the council moved their depot away from Llandudno, the estates don`t get cleaned as often as they used to. Even town is littered everywhere. Now all of this would be no bother if people of all ages did not litter, or if they did their bit to recycle etc. Now this is my second problem, why is it that the council in Llandudno seem to be the only ones who are not force-ing the public to recycle, in my street we have the usual black wheelie bin, and a once a week collection. Great, but all my friends out of Llandudno are on recycling boxes and fortnightly collections, some for over a year now.  Is this about to change? or are we a bit behind in Llandudno. What does everyone think about thier collections? Granted there are plenty of recycling banks, but even these are too full half of the time.
\r\n\r\nKerbside recycling is being rolled out throughout the county of Conwy. It\\''s starting in places like Penrhyn Bay and Llandudno Jucntion on June 2nd, maybe Llandudno as well? We\\''ve had our recycling boxes last week.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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HELLO .  Craig you are wrong about  the shops, i have worked for a store here for 24 years (how sad is that) and every Victorian weekend we are  absolutely dead. hubby was in Mostyn St this morn (Sat ) and several shopkeepers told him this was their most quiet weekemd of their year so in my opinion the only people making money this weekend are hotels. pubs cafes restaurants. and the fairground people( the cost of the rides this year -enough said) to me there is something about  the whole that is boring i dont know why cant put my figure on it .perhaps  if the whole town were involved it would be different. I have noticed everyone  so far who have praised it on here  doesnt live here! p,s  LLANRWST was lovely today even in the rain)
\r\n\r\nHi Northwalescpl, you need to look at the wider picture, there are winners and losers, im not oblivious to that. I know several business folk on the main streets in town, for example, The Rock Shop next door to the Kings Arms thrives on the influx of visitors over this weekend, and X-POSE trading on Madoc St are dead, they just dont open simple as that. Asides pubs, cafes, lets not forget the many gift shops, newsagents, I even saw a couple of clothes shops centrally based packed out. If those shops know year after year they\\''re not doing well, should just take time off, after-all its a bank holiday! I am sorry to say there are far more winners than losers, if I have to prove this myself I will get out on my own and conduct an audit on every shop trading in town, if I am wrong, i\\''ll openly confess.'),
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Hi , we decided a few weeks ago to recycle all our papers and wine bottles and we cant believe how much lighter our bin is!
\r\n\r\nHi Nortwalescpl, just interested in your comment, was this part of a compulsory scheme, or just something which you decided to voluntarily do?\r\n\r\nWhere I live in Wigan, the compulsory schemes are a bit sparce, patchy if if that makes sense. I\\''m all for recycling but there is no room for a recycling bin if they tried. Furthermore I dont drive, and it is just too inconvenient for me to travel to Tescos to recycle as I dont have a car. I do however play my part in other ways, and I am all for recycling but authorities need to do more to make it happen, and it can be done.\r\n\r\nI think a good idea would be to setup more abundant recycling points in housing estates, local areas, not just at your local supermarkets or your council recycling centre which may be a few miles away. Door collection schemes are good but it has to be feasible, i.e. my example without the room for another bin, I would be happy to walk a couple of hundred metres (not having a car) if there was a nearby recycling point in my area.\r\n\r\nEnjoying reading everyones contributions here...'),
(1887, 'Congratulations Frank on reaching this milestone always a Gives a sense of safty when we see you and your team at events.'),
(1888, 'Kerbside recycleing is up and running in rhos on sea and seems to work well.\r\nAre people aware of a great scheme called conwyfreecycle it is an online site that allows unwanted items to be offered to someone who may be of need of them therefore stoping the items being placed in land fill.'),
(1889, 'ha ha ha. fab.'),
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I am amazed at two things, firstly since the council moved their depot away from Llandudno, the estates don`t get cleaned as often as they used to. Even town is littered everywhere. Now all of this would be no bother if people of all ages did not litter, or if they did their bit to recycle etc. Now this is my second problem, why is it that the council in Llandudno seem to be the only ones who are not force-ing the public to recycle, in my street we have the usual black wheelie bin, and a once a week collection. Great, but all my friends out of Llandudno are on recycling boxes and fortnightly collections, some for over a year now.  Is this about to change? or are we a bit behind in Llandudno. What does everyone think about thier collections? Granted there are plenty of recycling banks, but even these are too full half of the time.
\r\n\r\nKerbside recycling is being rolled out throughout the county of Conwy. It\\''s starting in places like Penrhyn Bay and Llandudno Jucntion on June 2nd, maybe Llandudno as well? We\\''ve had our recycling boxes last week.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nA friend of mine in Penmaenmawr got his recycling boxes last week too. Although there are recycling mobile information desks going about, including a non victorian one ;-) in the extravaganza, there has not been any information through our letterboxes, here at least.'),
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Hi , we decided a few weeks ago to recycle all our papers and wine bottles and we cant believe how much lighter our bin is!
\r\n\r\nI think a good idea would be to setup more abundant recycling points in housing estates, local areas, not just at your local supermarkets or your council recycling centre which may be a few miles away. Door collection schemes are good but it has to be feasible, i.e. my example without the room for another bin, I would be happy to walk a couple of hundred metres (not having a car) if there was a nearby recycling point in my area.\r\n\r\nEnjoying reading everyones contributions here...
\r\n\r\nI agree, we have a good selection of recycling banks in our local asda and many carparks, problem is, they seem still to be not enough. Asking people to recycle is something. punishing them for getting it wrong is something else, and a fortnightly collection is just simply making the job more rediculous, the rubbish gets scattered all over the streets and its the street cleaners who get the abuse.'),
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It wasn\\''t too long ago that the shops would be closed every Sunday and every Wednesday afternoon! 7 days a week shopping has brought in many of the big high street names which to me has robbed Llandudno of some of its charm, particularly the monstrosity Parc Llandudno. Smaller shops have more to gain by joining in or having some of the attractions. Madoc street comes to mind
\r\n\r\nVery well put, I totally agree. It sadens me to see all the small shops that have gone away. I suppose this is the future for towns like this, to bring people into Llandudno they suggest bring the big names, but wasn`t that what the victoria centre was built for? Instead some shoppers don`t even make it passed parc Llandudno. I am very surprised how some of these small shops survive.'),
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HI, to be honest Craig sorry to say this but like most of the locals we hate the whole thing
\r\n\r\nsame here'),
(1895, 'I have been up town every day on this event, I have kept a look out in case I saw craig or other members of this group, but not seen any. Everyone else seems to have seen each other, I must be walking round with my eyes shut. Must say though, I think there has been less people around than previous events in my view. Nice to see the police about in huge numbers, had to laugh today though when I saw a rather overweight police woman running from the police station uptown direction, she had clearly not put on her uniform for a while, and was well out of breath within a few yards from the station. Good on her though. A word of thought for the marshals, seen some friends doing their duties, and they went to the trouble of dressing up, then had to hide it with a big yellow vest, maybe a sash of sorts is more in order for the future. Went right to the top of mostyn street where a stage was. There was a group of rather young musicians playing modern pop songs, Not too loud as you would expect, just the right volume, they were very good, except we have this problem of not being victorian. Maybe there should be more victorian entertainment, we have fantastic drama groups, as well as maybe incorporating school drama shows, wouldn`t it be good if the school shows  could even work towards thier school grades or even llandrillo college courses. Shakespere, pantomine, classical pieces different short pieces throughout the days with improvisation allowed. An area for waltzing in period costume perhaps. When i think of this I cant help think of those happy days at the alex monro show, if the Extravaganza somehow spead to a picnic with entertainment in the Happy Valley, although linking would proberbly cause a traffic problem.'),
(1896, 'i got my new recycle box last week, just waiting to hear when it starts now :)  its a great thing. i used to take all my stuff over to tesco.'),
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Anyone read Christopher Drapers book \\''Before the Hotels\\''? took me a while to get hold of it, well worth a read.
\r\n\r\nYes Found the info excellent
\r\n\r\nPlenty of copies in W H Smith'),
(10701, 'These will be with us on May 1st.\r\n\r\nNominations closed at noon today and there\\''s contests in all 5 Llandudno Wards for both Town and County Boro. \r\n\r\nAt least Llandudno retains its repuation for tolerance - two BNP people have been returned for Colwyn Bay Town Council unopposed.'),
(10702, 'TaTrojan.\r\n\r\nNot sure if PoA coal was suitable for gas making.  I will see if I can find out where it came from.\r\n\r\nThe UDC had a small fleet of coal wagons which they used to get coal from the collieries.'),
(10703, 'Yep u got me, but now its realy buggin me  :idea: because i cant think who you are but ile find out of my cuzz  Dandy.'),
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Yep u got me, but now its realy buggin me  :idea: because i cant think who you are but ile find out of my cuzz  Dandy.
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TaTrojan.\r\n\r\nNot sure if PoA coal was suitable for gas making.  I will see if I can find out where it came from.\r\n\r\nThe UDC had a small fleet of coal wagons which they used to get coal from the collieries.
\r\n\r\nThanks a lot. This was way before the class 158 DMU\\''s appeared eh ALPHALINE  :wink:'),
(10707, 'Hi taffy57\r\nyou wont know me, but i know of you, through my husband Robert Hughes\r\nyour older half brother, my nephew told me about this site, and ask me if i knew who you were, Rob was really excited :lol:  to read all what was written about the family, i have never met you but have heard so much about you from rob and Julie and pat, and have seen photo\\''s of you and your family, and yes i think you are very like barry :wink: .\r\nwell must dash of to work, get back to you later. see ya xx'),
(10706, 'What\\''s going on with all the chippy\\''s closing down?\r\nThere\\''s two gone already from this site\\''s Buisness awards 2008, \\''The best fish & chips in town\\'' poll (Hong Kong & Phoenix) and the poll isn\\''t finished yet.'),
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They\\''d be better off spending £12 million on demolishing all of the houses in multiple occupation around the town centre area.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nWell that would mean 1/2 of colwynbay and some of these are in such a bad state of repair it wont take £12 million.'),
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They\\''d be better off spending £12 million on demolishing all of the houses in multiple occupation around the town centre area.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\nWell that would mean 1/2 of colwynbay and some of these are in such a bad state of repair it wont take £12 million.
\r\nIt\\''s true that large swathes of Colwyn Bay would need to go - the entire Bay View Road and Greenfield Road areas, for starters. I would also like to see the main retail area concentrated around Station/Penrhyn road, with all the shops between Stermat and Eirias Park demolished, the occupants being relocated to vacant shops in the main shopping area. \r\n\r\nSadly, £12 million wouldn\\''t go that far, as properties would have to be acquired either via a commercial purchase at market value or CPO - just one large empty building on Marine Road is for sale at £900k - you\\''d need nearer to £50m to buy the buildings, clear the sites, then either build something else or landscape the sites. Needs to be done though, a lot of progress is being made on the seafront in Rhyl with a similar Welsh Assembly scheme - that scheme cost £14m just for the promenade area purchase/redevelopment of derelict properties alone. \r\n\r\nSC'),
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When i think of this I cant help think of those happy days at the alex monro show, if the Extravaganza somehow spead to a picnic with entertainment in the Happy Valley, although linking would proberbly cause a traffic problem.
\r\nThat would be great, there could be some sort of shuttle bus system to link different areas. maybe some of our members could get involved in the organisation of the event in future??'),
(1900, 'Congratulations Frank.\r\n\r\nI used to be a member of St John\\''s Ambulance albeit over in the Junction.\r\n\r\nMy memories include being on duty during the 1963 National Eisteddfod, the 1964 Swallow Penfold Golf Tournament at Maesdu won by Peter Alliss and summer duty in a caravan near to the pier gates in the company of Mr and Mrs Rathbone.\r\n\r\nSir Michael Duff from Faenol was the Head Man for Caerrnarfonshire and we often competed in regional competitions. \r\n\r\nI can remember once going over to Maesgeirchen near Bangor.\r\n\r\nI would imagine Frank would have been involved with the Llandudno Branch around then.'),
(10686, 'When I was home at Xmas and February Becky was there every night and so was he daughter.'),
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  That reminds me, has that Phoenix chip shop closed down? Every time I go past, there\\''s curtains all over the window. We need a decent chippy in Craig Y Don.  :D \r\n\r\nSC
\r\nI had a closer look when passing this afternoon and the chippy is \\''TO LET\\''.'),
(10688, 'Wow, another coincidence! I was only talking to someone at the weekend about how a Crazy Golf course would do really well in Llandudno, if you could just find the space. I actually took a photo of the one at the Summit on Saturday:\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nSC'),
(10689, 'They\\''d be better off spending £12 million on demolishing all of the houses in multiple occupation around the town centre area.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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  That reminds me, has that Phoenix chip shop closed down? Every time I go past, there\\''s curtains all over the window. We need a decent chippy in Craig Y Don.  :D \r\n\r\nSC
\r\nI had a closer look when passing this afternoon and the chippy is \\''TO LET\\''.
\r\n :(  That\\''s a shame. I\\''m not keen on the chips from the Chinese by the Co-op. I wish someone would reopen Glynns chip shop.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(10684, 'mailto:llandudno.museum@lineone.net\r\n\r\nTry the Museum, they have similar things on display.'),
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Na ive checked out the old photo still cant recognise him ,anyway makes it more fun someone knows me and i dont know them ha ha x
\r\n\r\n 8) Phew....that was close. Looks like my cover is still intact. Come on Nettle - you know I don\\''t wear shades in the dark - they\\''re welding goggles.'),
(10721, 'I used to go in quite often years ago and I remember Derek working there.  Last time I went in I thought I\\''d accidently walked in on the Big Issue AGM!'),
(10722, 'Yeah know what yer mean,   but that was mainly on what they used to call the monday club Giro Day, but ime not going to say any more ,with a name like PADDY you could be spying for them  :wink:  and next time i wanna go in there ile get barred ha only jokin mate lorraine'),
(10723, 'If your walking through St davids place on your way into town there is one hidden in the grass there it has on it E P i always remember it because as kids we all thought it was were ELVIS was buried.no joking see if you can find it. lorraine.'),
(10699, 'Didn\\''t see this myself.  But a colleague who did was appalled at the accent of the "Llandudno Woman" at the beginning.  Vintage Merthyr Vale apparently.\r\n\r\nI knew Jess\\''s brother, Ted, slightly.  He was a decent sort and managed or owned the hotel next the the Imp at one time, it became the Howard Hotel.'),
(1902, 'Some interesting ones for me, I would say though if there is going to be an extention of a story on any particular building etc, think if its worth starting up a new thread and getting a whole new topic going. Well I remember very large milk vending machines one outside the main post office, the other by Billy Macs by the railway station, I remember the old fire station at the back of the town hall, the large bell that hung high outside, and the old dennis fire engines with the the big wagon wheels on the back for the ladders. The old "Rowlands" Barbers a few doors up from W h Smith, The windmill on the carlton roundabout.  The half day wednesday closing, the football stadium as it was to me. The donkey fields always flooding, and rabbits running about galore. papers being sold on street corners and they never had to have a dog with them for extra money....lol Policemen walking, that was frightening enough for us. Council men sweeping streets with a brush, not a prototype space buggy. dual carriageway around town that didn`t jam. Less cars on the road and even safe to ride your bike in town.[/b]'),
(6503, 'Local postcard collectors, dedicated hobby section.'),
(1904, 'I am one of the locals that tend to avoid the Extravaganza now, having `been there, seen it and done it\\'', yes and even dressed up for the \r\noccasion(!) for a number of years, but I would have no hesitation in accompanying anyone that hasn\\''t experienced it, for it is definitely worth seeing.  Passing through Llandudno over the weekend, I noticed that most of the hotels and guest houses had no vacancy signs, and there were large crowds of people and traffic everywhere.  Good for Llandudno!\r\nBodafon Fields looked extremely impressive with the transport festival.  I would say well worth the £4.50 entrance fee.  There are not many exhibitions you could enter on that scale for any less around the country. \r\nThe Prom Day looked definitely in full swing, and there seemed to be more to it this year.  \r\n\r\nWe were in Skipton over the weekend where there was a Waterway Festival.  A very simple affair, very colourful with all the decorated canal boats and a fete along the waterside.  There were Morris Dancers and stalls, etc.  Lovely market town with lots of character!\r\n\r\nWhat did OLLE members think of the Extravaganza this year?'),
(1905, 'Ooooh, all this sounds like the makings of a future Ghost Tour we could arrange.  Spooky....\r\n\r\nLinda'),
(1907, 'Good suggestion Suepp\r\n\r\nI am one of the locals that tend to avoid the Extravaganza now, having `been there, seen it and done it\\'', yes and even dressed up for the \r\noccasion(!) for a number of years, but I would have no hesitation in accompanying anyone that hasn\\''t experienced it, for it is definitely worth seeing.  Passing through Llandudno over the weekend, I noticed that most of the hotels and guest houses had no vacancy signs, and there were large crowds of people and traffic everywhere.  Good for Llandudno!\r\nBodafon Fields looked extremely impressive with the transport festival.  I would say well worth the £4.50 entrance fee.  There are not many exhibitions you could enter on that scale for any less around the country. \r\nThe Prom Day looked definitely in full swing, and there seemed to be more to it this year.  \r\n\r\nWhen we were in Skipton over the weekend where there was a Waterway Festival.  A very simple affair, very colourful with all the decorated canal boats and a fete along the waterside.  There were Morris Dancers and stalls, etc.  Lovely market town with lots of character!\r\n\r\nAbout 9 years ago, I spent a New Year in Dunedin, near Clearwater in Florida, and it was celebrated with a US tradition of `the dropping of the ball\\''.  Transport was on hand to transport people around Dundedin to various places of entertainment, for example there was a show in the library building, there was singing in the town hall building, children were performing in one of the churches, and so on.  It was really good and a lot of thought had gone into the planning of all these events to mark the New Year.\r\n\r\nThis always stayed with me, so that when it came to the Millennium and how Llandudno should mark the occasion, I brought this up with the town council.  Nothing was ever done....'),
(10528, 'Count me in as I am determined to draw a line under Derek and my second-hand bed !!  :lol: :lol:  '),
(10529, 'Ok, thats me, my girlfriend, Brian so far, if we get more forthcoming, i\\''ll make an e-mail announcement.'),
(10530, 'Just reading his posts you will see that he was allways polite and kind.\r\nRIP'),
(10531, 'Allways up for a drink'),
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Ok, thats me, my girlfriend, Brian so far, if we get more forthcoming, i\\''ll make an e-mail announcement.
\r\nIs it me, Craig, or could your post be worded better ?? :shock: '),
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Arthur was an early promoter of vending machines for snacks etc. One of his more memorable machines was called "Testo" which featured in many pubs until the mid 1970s.  You put 6d in which dopped down a scale, you then pushed a button to stop the coin and that supposedly showed how quick you would be if you had drunk before you drove.  I expect the breathalyser killed this particular business off.
\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nTesto Reaction Meter'),
(8269, 'Any of our older members have any memories of wartime Llandudno? Maybe member\\''s parents or grandparents have passed on their memories to them.\r\nMy Father related a story to me from the time when he was a child. He went to the top of Nant-y-gamar road to a farmhouse with his Mother one evening when twilight was setting in. He looked out over the Little Orme and asked his Mother why the sky in the distance was an orange colour as he thought the sun set in the west. His Mother replied that it wasn\\''t the sun - it was Liverpool on fire having been bombed by the Luftwaffe.'),
(1912, 'This is a topic that has been talked about in our council chambers according to the press. I myself would like to see it pedestrianised with maybe things like a french market or a farmers market from time to time down the centre.  However although the few car parking spaces could go to surrounding carparks etc, this will also add to traffic problems. What are your thoughts?'),
(5994, 'To: Mr & Mrs P Lloyd, 37 Rushmore Close, Sprowston, Norwich, Norfolk.\r\nPosted: 11th September 1979\r\n\r\n\\''Dear Valerie and Peter, we enjoyed our journey here on Sunday arriving at 6.30 p.m. The Evans Hotel is very comfortable and so close to the shops and beach. Tomorrow we are going to Caernarfon Castle, and we have been to the Great Orme for a trip. See you Friday, Sylvia.\\'''),
(5995, 'To: Mrs J Hill, c/o Lockham & Co. Ltd, High St, Paisley, Scotland.\r\nPosted: 25th June 1927\r\n\r\n\\''Have just spent an evening  at the Pier Pavilion. The shows here are very good!'),
(10525, 'Hi everyone, just to let you know i will be coming back for a visit around the 22nd April and will be in Llandudno for a while, anyone fancy meeting up for a drink and a chat during my visit? it would be good to put some faces to the names, let me know, Karen'),
(10526, 'Great idea Karen, any other members interested in a bit of a get together?'),
(10527, 'All BT have going for them Gerald is a brand, when I was in Wigan, I think I was something like 100m from the exchange, I got a rubbish 1MB with BT, as soon as I switched over to TalkTalk I had 8MB registering on my router. BT are really lagging behind as i\\''ve mentioned in articles above, they charge more, you get less. Take note of the BT experiences above.'),
(1915, 'DONT MISS THE 2008 EXTRAVAGANZA, HAVE YOU BOOKED YOUR HOTEL YET?'),
(1919, 'Interesting subject Gerald,\r\n\r\nI am very much an 80\\''s kid, I grew up on Pen Y Cwm near the Hospital Estate and spent much of my time there. I have a few vivid memories...\r\n\r\nThe Red Dragon See-Saw on the Rugby Field Park back then if anyone remembers was a killer! lads used to rock it furiously back and forth so fast, it could probably have killed someone... it was later removed. The red arrows used to visit a lot back then and I always remember watching them from the Rugby Field. Traditional games were Knock-a-Door Ginger, no idea why it was called that, but basically we knocked on peoples doors and run away, sometimes we even got a chase! :D\r\n\r\nI spent many a time rambling over Cwm Mountain and walking to Grannys Chair (not to be confused with \\''My Grannys Chair\\'' also mentioned throughout the site), also looking for golf balls on Maesdu.\r\n\r\nAt around the age of 5 I was kidnapped with two other friends and was later found walking astray with a lady! opposite Woolworths by the police, me and my friends were taken in the back of a police car, we was frightened but we all pretended to be all matcho in the back of the car.\r\n\r\nMy brother used to take me to the Golden Goose as it was known back then, it seemed to be easier to win in those days for some reason, the ten pences pushers had massive coins, there was even bingo which I used to love playing and got to know \\''Joe\\'' and \\''Ann\\''.\r\n\r\nLong gone are the days I used to be able to buy an ice cream for 20p, look out for a pile of fallen 2p pieces and get a bag of chips from tribells for 60p...'),
(1920, 'I worked at the Astra as a Projectionist, we had Ken James play the organ every day in the summer, when we used to do general maintenance work during the mornings, we used to hear Roy Bentley play the organ, and we were able to tell what kind of mood he was in by what he played.\r\nKen James used to play the organ when we had live stage shows like the Welsh National Opera or Gilbert & Sullivan, to me; to me though Roy was the better player.'),
(10691, 'No one has mentioned the mini-golf course in Llwynon Road on the Orme.\r\n\r\nStill operating today and one of Llandudno\\''s best kept secrets.'),
(1922, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nJust got back from our 19th Victorian extravaganza and really enjoyed it too. Managed a bullseye on the tube shoot!\r\n\r\nOne thing I was overjoyed to find was a "rotor" ride. The last one I went on was many, many years ago in Rhyl. It was banned on the grounds of safety I think, so it was a surprise to find one. I showed it to my 14 year old son, and after I explained what it was and how it worked he was persuaded to go on it. After one go of course, he want to go on again and again. This one was not as big as the one in Rhyl I remember, but it worked very well and glued us to the wall with about 4g if my estimate is correct. I had trouble breathing at one point!\r\n\r\nAnyone remember the one in Rhyl ?'),
(10692, 'yep they were there alright even at 5 to 12 on friday night, the son started to serve after a while, chased me down the road one night, he wrapped my fish in his maths  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:'),
(7860, 'Oh yes, I can vouch for the wood moving underfoot! \r\n\r\nYou should have been there. There is a forest of hemp ropes descending from the heavens. It is as if it had just closed the yesterday, everything is still in place. There is a suitably authentic, paint daubed scenery decorators table against one wall and complete painted with panels against another, even the heavy safety curtain is still suspended in its raised position. \r\n\r\nPart of the original planning approval for the nightclub was that it should not encroach on the main fabric of the theatre. At 10.30 in the morning, with the house lights on, it is easy to see that this has been very well achieved such that the dancefloors, bars, seating areas and indeed, walls, are all built independent of the fabric of the theatre.\r\n\r\nIt is not difficult to imagine, should the will, (and business case) ever be there, that the building could theoretically at least, be returned into an elegant theatre once again. \r\n\r\nThe Historical Society is of the feeling that there is room for such a theatre in Llandudno in competition with Venue Cymru. I wonder personally if this is just romantic reminiscences taking over from reality. What with modern fire regulations and a changing market, I wonder whether Llandudno\\''s albeit masterpiece of Victorian theatre design, really could stand on it\\''s own against modern alternatives.'),
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Correct, mollie.\r\n\r\nThe NWWN advertised it for sale at Llandudno Museum a few years ago.\r\n\r\nI think the colouring was added by a Mrs Bannerman, who I believe lives down Abbey Road.
\r\n\r\nThink she and/or her OH were responsible for the archeological book about the Great Orme which I borrowed from the library many moons ago.');
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This is a topic that has been talked about in our council chambers according to the press. I myself would like to see it pedestrianised with maybe things like a french market or a farmers market from time to time down the centre.  However although the few car parking spaces could go to surrounding carparks etc, this will also add to traffic problems. What are your thoughts?
\r\n\r\nThis is quite a contraversial one for me Gerald, im literally split on the issue. To pedestrianise Mostyn Street would mean the loss of several hundred in-town parking spaces, if parking isnt an already an issue? I\\''d love to see the town pedestrianised if they brought back the trams as a clean form of transport running along pedestrianised main street.\r\n\r\nThis may irreversably change the character of the town forever though, and maybe just a section of the town should be done, i\\''ll explain...\r\n\r\nSince the introduction of Parc Llandudno has came to be, the centre of town has shuffled further up Lower Mostyn Street (in my opinion that is). It is debatebly whether Upper Mostyn St has begun to suffer since this move, but I think Upper Mostyn St could be further benefitted by being pedestrianised and setting up some kind of market like you suggested, this is quite a classy end of town and I  think pedestrianising it could close the gap on this particularly long high street.\r\n\r\nI would be particularly against the pedestrianisation proposal if their was no transport provisions put in place prior. I think it is unlikely we will get the trams back and I have no knowledge on park and ride schemes to offer. The transport hub next to the train station could be a winner though. I think we should welcome the thoughts of our Local Llandudno & District Historical Society as they may have a better insight into the potential changes, negative or positive, that this may have our heritage resort town. The town would be very sensitive to such a major change to its running infrastructure, everyones views count here.'),
(4487, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nDear Fellow Llandudno Enthusiasts,\r\n\r\nApproaching the first anniversary since the launch of the forum on the 1st of August 2006, I would like to take this opportunity to reflect back on the past 12 months.\r\n\r\nThe forum community is now over 70 members strong, at least 30 of those members are actively using the forum on a regular basis, whether to reminisce, conduct online research, chat/gossip or have their say on local topics and debates. Our reader base now exceeds some 80,000 page views each month, and although the registered member community is around just 70+ members, we have an additional 2400+ unique readers using our web site each month, overall this translates to almost half a million web hits.\r\n\r\nThe success of this forum community may be attributed to many different reasons, but if anyone here deserves the credit, it is each and everyone of you.\r\n\r\nThe forum has evolved and continues to go from strength to strength, those who frequently return and contribute here I wish to thank for your loyalty, I cannot express enough the importance the forum plays in preserving history through our \\''Memories Lobby\\'', and the wealth of knowledge that can be found on making a post in the \\''Ask a Local\\'' section, the \\''Debates Lobby\\'' also provides an eye-opener to the local authorities who might read our forum through raising our concerns on local issues and debates.\r\n\r\nThe forum even brings a piece of home to those native who cannot physically be here and are perhaps on other sides of the world, including myself. I would like to encourage anyone reading this message now who is not a member, don\\''t be shy and come join us here in the forum, perhaps you have memories to share yourself?\r\n\r\nOur next step is to establish ourselves as a registered non-profit group/society with a difference, we now have 7 main group members and we are still appealing for more volunteers to get this group off the ground so if you have any skills/experiences to offer and a little time to spare, then please get in touch, if not please continue to enjoy being a member of the forum community and are most welcome to join in on our group outings/events in the coming future.'),
(1928, 'I remember the one in Rhyl, Chris.  It is the only time I have ever been on that ride, never again to be repeated, and if I remember rightly, there was even more to worry about if you had a dress on!!!  It was the most horrendous experience.'),
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Interesting subject Gerald,\r\n\r\nI am very much an 80\\''s kid, I grew up on Pen Y Cwm near the Hospital Estate and spent much of my time there. I have a few vivid memories...\r\n\r\nThe Red Dragon See-Saw on the Rugby Field Park back then if anyone remembers was a killer! lads used to rock it furiously back and forth so fast, it could probably have killed someone... it was later removed. The red arrows used to visit a lot back then and I always remember watching them from the Rugby Field. Traditional games were Knock-a-Door Ginger, no idea why it was called that, but basically we knocked on peoples doors and run away, sometimes we even got a chase! :D\r\n\r\nI spent many a time rambling over Cwm Mountain and walking to Grannys Chair (not to be confused with \\''My Grannys Chair\\'' also mentioned throughout the site), also looking for golf balls on Maesdu.\r\n\r\nAt around the age of 5 I was kidnapped with two other friends and was later found walking astray with a lady! opposite Woolworths by the police, me and my friends were taken in the back of a police car, we was frightened but we all pretended to be all matcho in the back of the car.\r\n\r\nMy brother used to take me to the Golden Goose as it was known back then, it seemed to be easier to win in those days for some reason, the ten pences pushers had massive coins, there was even bingo which I used to love playing and got to know \\''Joe\\'' and \\''Ann\\''.\r\n\r\nLong gone are the days I used to be able to buy an ice cream for 20p, look out for a pile of fallen 2p pieces and get a bag of chips from tribells for 60p...
\r\n\r\nKidnapped??? well thats a story and a half, I used to live in Maes y cwm, and before that, blaen cwm, my eldest lad rhys used to be best mates with a lad called Robin who lived in Maes y cwm. Now that rocking dragon, that was there back when I was a kid, or maybe it was just renewed, I used to love that.'),
(1931, 'I think the ideas of Trams are out of the window, I myself would see them as too dangerous. How many carparking spaces we could lose in mostyn street wouldn`t be in the hundreds, since parc Llandudno it is easier to park in mostyn street. Of course deliveries would have to be accounted for. and more parking spaces will still be needed, maybe pedestrianisation in sections at a time to trial the idea.'),
(1932, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nLlandudno Trust - yes I enjoyed it all as usual. The lady who runs the tube shoot always greets us like old friends, and Pierre Picton who brings Chitty Chitty bang bang always remembers us too. It\\''s a great event that I have promoted over the years.\r\n\r\nLife\\''s a trip - Yes, the rotor is not for the faint hearted. The one at Rhyl was much bigger and the floor dropped away much deeper. I know what you mean about ladies with skirts or dresses on, but that was half the fun !'),
(1933, 'I heard several complaints today about something I never witnessed till tonight, Apparently a coconut shy was offering as prizes, and giving away on the last day, airhorns. Brainless youths have been going around sounding these things off in old and very young peoples faces, I must admit, I went up town every morning and evening on all 3 days and didn`t witness any of this, although several people have told me about it, and tonight I have heard nothing but the blooming sound from some little kid around the corner. Its hard to believe some idiot didn`t see this coming. On the funny side, I had to laugh the amount of people I saw struggling with well oversized inflatable childrens characters.'),
(10524, 'Ray the guy with the Very BIG boats is a regular feature at the West shore Model Boating lake and you have all the Glider flyers who are regular fixtures on the Orme in flying season, one of their eldest members even had his own ashes scattered from his own plane from there not so long ago and it was in the local press too. (Dave Williams R.I.P.) A man I met many times flying gliders on the Orme, including that one that was used for his send off and some very nice powered aircraft from the West Shore sands too !!'),
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Hi, i`ve seen a lot of about Tony Boyle on here ,having died, but i can honestly say that up to 2 wks ago he hadn`t, because i was talking to him outside  a shop. Dave.
\r\n\r\nIn your write up about Tony Boyle I am nearly certain I have certain I have seen him in Tescos in the Junction.'),
(1936, 'Allotments in the area where the retail park stands.... always seeing the John Creese Parsons billboard on the Arcadia Theatre.... the old National Milk Bar with its leather seats and glass shelves and noisy coffee machine.... Woolworths with its individual woodern counters....Crosville buses and conductors with their ticket machines....the house down in the woods from Penrhyn Hill - always thought a witch lived there....the old church house in St David\\''s Road, Penrhyn Bay, where Auntie Nell used to arrange jumble sales and I used to love helping her putting the stuff out.... riding at Bessie\\''s stables on a Sunday morning....Oriental Stores with its old fashioned shop fittings and individual drawers for everything - ties, hankerchieves, buttons, etc....the market opposite the Cottage Loaf....old wooden deckchairs on the beach, men with rolled up trousers and hankerchiefs on their heads....tin bucket and spades....  standing on an orange box in the Parade pub behind the bar because I was too small to see over the counter.... shopping with my mum every Saturday and buying something new to wear -  hot pants, mini skirts, snakeskin coat and boots, midi skirts, Ben Sherman shirts, choker necklaces from boutiques like Sandpiper...  having lunch after shopping in the old Fortes.... Alex Munro shows in the Happy Valley....Hughie Green at the Grand Theatre and winning a box of paints in a balloon blowing competition....collapsing with exhaustion outside WH Smiths with other students on the way back to Llandrillo Tech after a sponsored 25 mile walk from Bangor....'),
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Allotments in the area where the retail park stands....  the old National Milk Bar with its leather seats and glass shelves and noisy coffee machine.....the house down in the woods from Penrhyn Hill - always thought a witch lived there......Oriental Stores with its old fashioned shop fittings and individual drawers for everything - ties, hankerchieves, buttons, etc....the market opposite the Cottage Loaf.......
\r\n\r\nAlways loved seeing the fresh veg at the allotments, and I loved the national milk bar, like you said those beautiful thick leather seats, and the large canvas paintings of castles around wales on their walls. Sugar cubes in packs of two, no wonder I had so many fillings, and that house in th ewoods, I thought the same, I remember when I was on a mechanics course in the tech, one of the old tutors lived in that house. and oriental Stores amzed me with their collection of camera`s and binoculars and telescopes, the market opposite the loaf I remember well, not very big but always something there.'),
(1938, 'As shown on several programmes on tv this week, Big Brother is watching us, but whats your opinion? is it too much? or not enough? The use of cctv against crime is a massive help and in a lot of cases a deterrent, If you walk around Llandudno town and the estates etc, its surprising just how many camera there are about. Although at times I feel its an evasion of privacy, I also feel the need for a bit of secureness is right too, still cant beat the old bobby on the beat though.'),
(1939, 'Well low and behold we had our recycling box and green bag today. A leaflet tells us it will or come into action in June. Good job I suggested to the wife last night that we should start now and get use to the idea before we are forced to.'),
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My first introduction to live theatre at the grand theatre to see a farce called boeing 777. bonfires in november by the old allotments on maesdu fields before it was the rugby ground. standing watching as they demolished the old coke chimneys on cwm road.\r\nSummers seemed longer then when we played out till late around cwm place all eating choc ices (supposed to be seconds) from hi hat ,good days
\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nIs this the \\''Boeing\\'' your on about, I found this programme which I thought would be a nice talking point for your reminiscing.'),
(1942, 'No thats not the one it was on at the grand theatre on mostyn broadway Think it would have been 1968 or 69.\r\nBut just look at the adds in brochure theres a lot that are saddly no more i used to clean cars at the showroom mentioned on a saturday morning 4hrs for half a crown.'),
(1944, 'Talking of adverts, see if theres any here you would like to reminisce on...\r\n\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=224&sid=ceb0789004aaa483af293ea77bd8cf73'),
(1945, 'Anybody remember going on the trips that sammy owen used to organise from cwm place to butlins.\r\nRemember those double deckers leaving maesdu road in a convoy full with screaming kids.'),
(1946, 'Talking of adverts, see if theres any here you would like to reminisce on...\r\n\r\nThere are only two that i do not remember must be old age setting in.\r\n it really makes you think when you see these old names how many shops have come and gone but there are one or two on there that have survived.'),
(10845, 'Thai/Kickboxing - Eugene Valerio - Ysgol John Bright.\r\n\r\nEarly in 1997 Eugene was offered a British Super Lightweight title bout and won the fight with with a first round KO then went on to successfully defend it twice winning both also with first round KO\\''s. Eugene moved up and successfully won British titles at Middleweight and Super Middleweight. One of his memorable fights was when he stopped Phil Barton in Liverpool\\''s Olympia Stadium.\r\nIn 1991 Eugene was offered a European Title fight in Porto Portugal at just 10 days notice. Eugene took the fight and trained hard every day getting himself sharp. Eugene completely dominated the fight and stopped his opponent in the 9th round.\r\nHe has won a Kickboxing title in Australia and has also fought in Russia, kazakhstan, Germany and many other countries.\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(10846, 'Hi Ursula,\r\n             I stopped at cwm place when i came up, i always remember this little girl hanging onto my trouser leg(julie), wouldn\\''t leave my side. I also remember a big field nearby where we used to knock a few golf balls about. Can you send me all your birthday\\''s and your address so i can send some cards. Hope to hear from you soon\r\n\r\n              Love Dave Jean + Evie jean. xxx\r\n\r\nHi Lotty,\r\n           Different family, Robert\\''s name is Hughes.'),
(10847, ':lol: That\\''s too funny.  Camp? Moi?'),
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2011, 04:07:25 PM »
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Hi Ursula,\r\n             I stopped at cwm place when i came up, i always remember this little girl hanging onto my trouser leg(julie), wouldn\\''t leave my side. I also remember a big field nearby where we used to knock a few golf balls about. Can you send me all your birthday\\''s and your address so i can send some cards. Hope to hear from you soon\r\n\r\n              Love Dave Jean + Evie jean. xxx\r\n\r\nHi Lotty,\r\n           Different family, Robert\\''s name is Hughes.
\r\n\r\nhi taffy57\r\nits defo Hobson, because he lived with my nana for many years, he used to be on the milk and drive the buses at crosville.\r\nprob just another branch off The Hobson tree lol'),
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No I\\''m not Maureen  :shock:  I\\''m a guy! The bouncer on the right is my Dad John - he was head doorman and ran the place for Charlie. He also ran Cesar\\''s Palace in the Grand Hotel and Berthlwyd Hall outside Conwy. Do you remember Yan and Bob Delaney who worked for him? Both have passed away now.
\r\n :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: hello maureen, i laughed my head off reading this one, well done :lol:  :lol:  :lol:'),
(1950, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nUnless my eyes deceive me, I think this street sign has been pinched, past there the other day, couldnt see it.'),
(10843, 'I know, just winding you up, you\\''ve done a tremendous job with the site which has gone from strength to strength.  :P'),
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please add your local hero\\''s to the list below\r\n\r\nSPORT ,                NAME  ,                                       Local Llandudno School ,\r\n\r\n  \r\nFootball ,       Alan MacIntosh   ,                               Lloyd Street \r\n\r\nFootball ,       Gerald Humphreys   ,                          Dyffryn Road  \r\n\r\nFootball ,       Joey Jones   ,                                     Stella Maris\r\n\r\nFootball ,       Frank Jones ,                                     Stella Maris\r\n\r\nFootball ,       Neville Southall  ,                                \r\n\r\nFootball ,       Gareth Davies  ,                                  Craig y Don\r\n\r\nFootball ,       Sean Eardley ,                                    Craig y Don\r\n\r\nFootball ,       Neal Eardley ,                                     Craig y Don\r\n\r\n\r\nGolf       ,      John Parry   ,                                      Lloyd Street\r\n\r\nOTHER LOCAL SPORTS MAY INCLUDE\r\n\r\n\r\nC/Green Bowls  , \r\n\r\nBoxing ,\r\n\r\nCricket ,\r\n\r\nDarts ,\r\n\r\nBadmington ,\r\n\r\nLawn / Table Tennis ,\r\n\r\nSailing ,\r\n\r\nRugby Union ,
\r\n\r\nJoey Jones\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nNeville Southall\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(1953, 'Hi everyone,\r\nAfter her career as a guest house owner in Claremont Road, St David\\''s Road and St.Seiriol\\''s Road my mother went to work for Billy Wright and he convinced her to open up her own cafe which she did.  She bought Pats Pantry on the West Shore and ran it successfully for over a decade.\r\n\r\nAll my children loved going to the cafe to see their Nana so they could have the lovely treats on offer on the cake stall or ice cream sundaes or scones, etc.  Sadly Mum passed away last July 2006 and the cafe is now a chip shop where I still call when Im in town for a nice fish and reminice about the time spent there.\r\n\r\nThe visitors however often shared a cup of tea and a scone between two of them, being too tight to pay for two!  Mum worked damned hard there often saying she had cooked sixty full breakfasts by 10am on many many occassions.\r\nGareth'),
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thats was me and i never learnt the words
\r\n\r\nThe only words you ever knew were bidly ob bob bob!'),
(1959, 'hi, no it wasnt compulsary Craig ,we just one day decided to do our bit for the enviroment, Gerald the carpark on Gloddaeth Ave near Maelgwyn Rd - there is usually plenty of room in their bins, but no plastic - Colwyn Bay the only place we seen for that, yes it would be a very good idea to put recycling points on by housing estates as many young families dont have cars.'),
(1961, 'Hi,\r\nWe recycle too and although it was a pain in the bottom at first, now its like second nature lol well almost  :lol: the kerbside scheme isn\\''t in force here in the Junction yet, but I\\''m told its coming soon, also Crest do a garden/green waste collection as well which is great for me as I\\''m an avid gardener. You can contact them at this email address to find out more\r\n\r\You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\n If anyone wants the up to date list of Recycling Points/Depots etc. you can find it on the link below, it also gives you details about what you can put where too !!\r\nIt is a pdf file so you will need Adobe Reader to read it which can be downloaded form off the Council website free of charge.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/286/020207__update_list_recycle_banks_in_Borough.pdf'),
(1962, 'Does \r\nanyone of the older enthusiasts remember St Andrews church ,that stood on Trinity ave, where Trinity court now is.\r\n we always called it `The old tin church` as  :) it was made of corrugated iron tin sheeting.What a great place to play when we were kids for hide-n-seek\r\nclimbing etc. it used to have Sunday school which we where always told to go on a sunday afternoon ( I`ve no idea why ! ) anyway we used to go just to mess about & have a laugh,i think we annoyed the vicar,cant remember his name.There were also `allotments` in the grounds, & my dad used to have a plot, i used to help him there & one time he  gave a bit of  it, about 4ft square to try & grow something. i think i ended up with a load of mint & feeling really clever.\r\nAlso there used to be rummage sales held in the church itself,what a scramble when the women dived in,they used to stand around outside ,before it opened all nicely chatting, but when it opened god help you ,if you where in the way, great days.\r\nDave'),
(1963, 'Grab your free e-copy of the North Wales Pioneer newspaper here in the Llandudno Enthusiast Forum\r\nEvery wednesday evening!\r\n\r\nNow you can read the local news every Wednesday evening GMT, wherever you are on the globe! You will need the latest version of Adobe Acrobat reader installed on your computer to view this.\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nCLICK THIS LINK: LLANDUDNO, NORTH WALES PIONEER\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(1964, 'A local man John C. Shields (Jack) of the Camera Obscura in Happy Valley dies at the age of 87.\r\n\r\nLocal residents were horrified last week when an ambulance took over an hour to reach John who had fallen ill near the camera obscura which he built himself. The first aider on scene said it took more than an hour for the ambulance to arrive, despite numerous 999 calls. A local resident Charmaine Aisthorpe was the first to attend the scene, another gentleman followed shortly after who used his mobile phone to chaseup the ambulance. With the help of former nurse Katie Jones the group finally managed to stabilise Mr Shields before two ambulances arrived almost 70 minutes after he fell. Despite the tiring work of performing CPR for over an hour, Mr Shields passed away later that day at Llandudno Hospital.\r\n\r\nTo see more of this story, please see this weeks North Wales Pioneer.\r\n\r\nHave you any memories of Jack or the camera Obscurer, if so please share them with us.'),
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yep thats me mate  :wink:  but i remember last time you came down with ya mate from states singing at the top of ya head in the X keys or you gonna blame the beer  :D hope your singing all the welsh songs over there T you could try and rap MYFANWY  :lol:  :lol:
\r\n\r\nOh Myfanwy, won\\''t you jump on the bus at Deganwy,\r\nWe can meet in Gloddaeth Street, and I hope you\\''ll look real neat,\r\nCoz were going to the Carlton for a very special treat.\r\nThere we\\''ll find Nettle mingin and tryin to do some singin - Frank Sinatra is his fave and there\\''ll sure to be a rave,\r\nCoz you know which song he\\''ll choose, when you hear....start spreadi\\''n the news.  :wink:'),
(1966, 'BRING THE TRAMS BACK\r\nHave Your Say Here!\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n*Llandudno Enthusiasts Centenary Photo, Hand Coloured B&W Photo by Craig Ollerton.\r\n\r\nThis Year 2007, the Llandudno & Colwyn Bay Electric Railway CELEBRATES \\''100\\'' YEARS since a 3\\''6" gauge electric tramway began operating between the two North Wales seaside resort towns Llandudno & Colwyn Bay via Rhos on-Sea from October 1907 until it sadly ceased operation in March 1956. Now local enthusiasts reminisce the nostalgia at the Llandudno & Colwyn Bay Tramway Society and will be celebrating 100 years since the Llandudno & Colwyn Bay line began operation. The society now has a near complete replica model of Tram No.7 which will be hauled from Old Colwyn to Llandudno during their celebrations.\r\n\r\nMany Thanks, Craig Ollerton.\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
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does anyone know what the building is in the foreground?You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
\r\n\r\nWhen I was a small child I seem to remember being taken to an ice- show somewhere up in that direction. Did I imagine it or was there an ice rink somewhere there?
\r\n\r\nThe building in the right foreground was converted into an ice-rink after it was indoor tennis courts - they had shows on the ice.'),
(13768, 'Hey SnakeCorp.....you should send this pic to \\''Oscar\\'' as well - I can see two vehicles parked on double-yellow lines!  :lol: \r\n\r\nWe should have sent Bri Roberts around the corner to see if they had \\''blue badges\\''.'),
(13769, 'Where\\''d the heck you get hold of that?!?!?!  :lol:'),
(13770, 'Retire? Will anyone notice?'),
(13771, 'Don`t forget Frau Cow :lol:'),
(13772, 'Exactly !'),
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does anyone know what the building is in the foreground?You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
\r\n\r\nWhen I was a small child I seem to remember being taken to an ice- show somewhere up in that direction. Did I imagine it or was there an ice rink somewhere there?'),
(13774, 'Thought I had seen some droppings yesterday, ..........as it comes colder at night they will be wandering along Abbey Road and Church Walks eating everything in sight. They can be an absolute pain during the winter if you are trying to grow any sort of hedging except Rosemary...... they hate the taste of that !'),
(13775, 'Now you\\''ve started something - add to the list Happy; Curly Bill; Swedge; Musso; Techy Evans; Mel; Barny; the list is endless !!\r\nCheers to all\r\nDerek'),
(13776, 'Major revelation - Karen told me Eddie Unpronouncable was one of the first boys she kissed in Stella Maris - didn\\''t know that sort of thing was allowed. She said he kissed like a vacuum cleaner so she binned him, I told her big mistake he\\''s probably minted !!\r\nCheers to all and come on Liverpool for tomorrow.\r\nDerek'),
(13762, 'I reckon its craig doing his Geocaching...... ;-)'),
(13763, 'Just out of interest, which members of the forum here collect postcards as a hobby?'),
(13764, 'I\\''ve been collecting them over the years. Not so much nowadays though.'),
(13765, 'we have a large collection mostly of Ruthin and Denbigh collected over the past 20 years, and  a small collection of Llandudno cards.'),
(13766, 'I\\''ve no idea what\\''s in the box, SC.......I\\''ll take the money please! :D'),
(13767, 'Your bloomin\\'' Hydrangea\\''s look good this year Craig!\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(1970, 'I too have to confess to having enjoyed more than one plate of double egg and chips at Billy Wright\\''s in the company of Stan Ryder way back in the late 70s.....\r\n\r\n(slurp....)\r\n :lol:'),
(1971, 'In the 50s there was a dreaded Rector\\''s wife who felt that it was her task to "train" the Curate\\''s wife to be a Vicar\\''s wife  :shock: \r\n\r\nApparently one Saturday afternoon a hapless curate\\''s wife went into St Andrew\\''s to water some flowers and unexpectedly the Rectorial spouse was there, who proceeded to give her the most TREMENDOUS row for.....\r\n\r\n.... not wearing a hat in church..\r\n\r\ntsk tsk \r\n\r\n(take a look around most churches nowadays and see how standards have slipped....) :wink:'),
(13761, 'Originally they were the old indoor tennis courts for the Craigside Hydro Hotel, which were later converted to an ice-rink. (See the RESEARCH section - \\''Craigside Hydro Hotel\\''.)'),
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As shown on several prorammes on tv this week, Big Brother is watching us, but whats your opinion? is it too much? or not enough? The use of cctv against crime is a massive help and in a lot of cases a deterrent, If you walk around Llandudno town and the estates etc, its surprising just how many camera there are about. Although at times I feel its an evasion of privacy, I also feel the need for a bit of secureness is right too, still cant beat the old booby on the beat though.
\r\n\r\nI would rather have the cctv especially as we live in the Junction. Although in saying that , not sure how often its working as it was out of action for sometime earlier this year.\r\n\r\nGerald you did make me giggle did you mean bobby ?  :lol:'),
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I worked at the Astra as a Projectionist, we had Ken James play the organ every day in the summer, when we used to do general maintenance work during the mornings, we used to hear Roy Bentley play the organ, and we were able to tell what kind of mood he was in by what he played.\r\nKen James used to play the organ when we had live stage shows like the Welsh National Opera or Gilbert & Sullivan, to me; to me though Roy was the better player.
\r\n\r\nRoy Bentley was streets ahead of Ken James when "on form" - we are talking apples and oranges. He was in his younger days on the team of organists for Gaumont British and he was one heck of a player! In his later days he was extremely busy as General Manager of Hutchinson\\''s Leisure Services (and before that the Rank Organisation) and so did not really have the time to keep in practice.  But even on a bad day he could play most organists off the bench. Small wonder that he was immediately appointed as President of the North Wales Organ Society (which existed from about 1974-84). \r\n\r\nRoy lived till he was about 90 years old and died about three years ago (or so). He would regale friends with stories about theatre personalities of yesteryear, and I once travelled with him to Norfolk in his beat up mini-clubman estate (mostly chewed to pieced by his dog!) and we talked all the way there  and back!  :shock:  He had played alongside such organists as Sidney Torch and Quentin Maclean - so was pretty much at the top of his profession.\r\n\r\nOh... and if crossed he could be fearsome .... (in a quiet way!) :roll: \r\n\r\nIt was on Easter Sunday 1987 that I happened to be driving past the Astra. It had closed, and I noticed that there was some activity at the stage door. It was in fact the team of people removing the Christie organ. The last time I saw it, it was in bits on the stage. It never played again and was destroyed whilst in storage. The theatre too was just about smashed to smithereens! The loss of the Astra Llandudno was just the most shocking thing....\r\n\r\nRoy never got over it.....'),
(1976, 'I think Gerald was right first time, you remember the police who always kept abreast of local affairs, nippling crime in the bud as it were.'),
(13751, 'Looking at the rust around the lock.It looks as if it\\''s been there a while!'),
(13752, 'Thunderbird is a great email program but most people have enough problems with one email add. good idea using googlemail as a storage bin.'),
(13753, 'Some more YJB teachers from the past - "Titch Bitch", "Des-Les", "Ken Plank", "Fingers" & "Gammy Hand". Looks like the cast from a horror movie.  :o'),
(13754, '"Labour Conwy MP Betty Williams has announced that she will step down at the next general election.\r\n\r\nShe revealed her decision to the local Labour Party at a meeting in Llanfairfechan on Wednesday night.\r\n\r\nMrs Williams, aged 64, was first elected in Labour\\''s 1997 landslide victory under Tony Blair\\''s leadership.\r\n\r\nIn a statement she said it was "now time to consider the future and a change in the balance of my workload and other activities". "\r\n\r\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/wales_politics/7610118.stm\r\n\r\nWorkload? Has anyone here ever even seen the woman? I know I never have! The only recent thing I have heard about her is when she voted IN FAVOUR of the Post Office closure scheme. She kowtows to the party line, regardless of the damage done by policies to the local community.\r\n\r\nTwo words...\r\n\r\nGOOD RIDDANCE\r\n\r\nSC'),
(13755, 'I would be surprised if Mostyn Estates paid for anything, unless of course they qualify for a grant of some sort. It\\''s just not their policy to dip into their own pocket.'),
(13756, 'I had parked my car by St David\\''s Hospice and we saw a lady chasing a herd of goats out of the grounds of the Hospice. They all went over to the old tennis courts across the road and we counted about 40 of them. They weren\\''t there long before crossing over to a nursing home in Great Orme\\''s Road & quickly demolishing all the plants & hedges there,much to the amusement of the residents who were watching it all.'),
(13757, 'I was born there in 1946,the maternity ward was on the 1st floor. My youngest brother arrived early & was born on a stretcher going up the stairs to the 1st floor!'),
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does anyone know what the building is in the foreground?You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
\r\n\r\n\r\nis it the old garage for the craigside hydro which later was used by hotpoint'),
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Do you remember some of the businesses that feature in this amalgamation of local adverts. Maybe you knew the owner, perhaps worked there or was a frequent and loyal customer? Share your memories at OLLE.\r\n\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts
\r\n\r\nWow the Embassy resteraunt, my mum worked there when I was little. we used to have many meals in the "Ritz" and every fortnight it was "rowlands" hairdressers, mum upstairs, dads and boys downstairs, and the smell of tobacco which was sold in the entrance to the hairdressers and barbers.'),
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Hi,\r\nWe recycle too and although it was a pain in the bottom at first, now its like second nature lol well almost  :lol: the kerbside scheme isn\\''t in force here in the Junction yet, but I\\''m told its coming soon, also Crest do a garden/green waste collection as well which is great for me as I\\''m an avid gardener. You can contact them at this email address to find out more\r\n\r\You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\n If anyone wants the up to date list of Recycling Points/Depots etc. you can find it on the link below, it also gives you details about what you can put where too !!\r\nIt is a pdf file so you will need Adobe Reader to read it which can be downloaded form off the Council website free of charge.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/286/020207__update_list_recycle_banks_in_Borough.pdf
\r\n\r\nCheers for the info, will print it off.  Nice to see your pic and put a face to the name, except it puts more pressure on me to get a decent pic of me for the group.....lol I shall ask craig to make some makeover alterations to my pic first. :-)  Like you said, the recycling is a pain but after a while I am sure it will just be a way of life for me.'),
(13749, 'Since you\\''ve started training already, I thought you needed more of a challenge and signed you up for the Triple Ironman Challenge - 7.2 mile swim followed by 336 mile cycle followed by 78.6 mile run. The challenge must be completed back-to-back with no sleep allowed. Maximum time allowed is 60 hours. :shock: \r\n\r\nhttp://www.areyoureadyforanadventure.com/?p=315\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Since you\\''ve started training already, I thought you needed more of a challenge and signed you up for the Triple Ironman Challenge - 7.2 mile swim followed by 336 mile cycle followed by 78.6 mile run. The challenge must be completed back-to-back with no sleep allowed. Maximum time allowed is 60 hours. :shock: \r\n\r\nhttp://www.areyoureadyforanadventure.com/?p=315\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\n :shock:  You better tell "Em the Crem" to be expecting me.'),
(1981, 'okay, okay, okay, its all corrected now, my right hand types faster than my left...lol Now everyone knows why I requested a spellchecker in here....lol'),
(1982, 'When I worked for North Wales Weekly, I was forever typing Beer Rooms instead of Bed Rooms for some reason  :? \r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(1983, 'Ah Gerald you spoilsport lol you should\\''ve left it  :) \r\nWay back when I used to work as a researcher for a company who did business leads I used to have to hoick my backside round the numerous councils of the UK, laptop in hand to jot down planning applications. The one I always had trouble with was County Council, I won\\''t type what it was that used to come out... I shall leave you to guess...'),
(1984, ':shock: SHOCKED!!! Looks so sweet and innocent on your photo. I`m sure you just misspelt it as counsel ???'),
(1985, 'If only... ROFL but then it used to give the office a good giggle when I handed my research disks in.'),
(1986, 'I know what you mean about Roy\\''s dog, it would bark like mad at you until you got in the car, then it would leave you alone until you got out, then it would go for you, I remember Roy taking me over to Colwyn Bay Astra one time to cover some holidays there, he would hold the dog on his lap till I got in/out.\r\nI count the time I spent with the Hutchinsons group as a very good time of my life, I did spend most of my time though in the Savoy cinema, which is how I received my nickname, even when I moved onto the Pier to work as a deck hand.'),
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OI.  Richard Sutton, I’m not that old.  Compared to the other members, I’m a spring chicken!
\r\n\r\nI am sorry to say but I am in agreement with Richard, you say \\''compared to the other members\\'' which makes you sound like an exception. I just feel it is vital you get younger people on the board. Having the young image that Llandudno Enthusiasts has, is one of our main drivers in the community, the younger views can sometimes be the most contraversial, but then again I equally agree having a set of old shoulders doesnt go amiss either. It\\''s only advice, and something of my opinion. It\\''s good saying you\\''ll be encouraging younger people to come onboard etc, but as I see it, there should be some younger people running at the core of this project. Many thanks for rectifying your email problem, I will be in touch in due course. Also do continue to keep our group updated here at Llandudno Enthusiasts and feel free to participate in any other subjects you wish.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Craig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(1990, 'Hi LT,\r\nWondered if you\\''d seen this about the Great Orme Goats ?\r\nLink below :\r\n\r\nhttp://www.llandudno.com/goats.html'),
(10521, 'All of the above posts have put it more succinctly, than I ever could.\r\n\r\nRIP Dave.'),
(10522, 'So sorry to hear about Dave. I always enjoyed his posts, always fun and full of information. Hopefully someone will collate these and pass them to his family.\r\n\r\nTL'),
(10523, 'So sorry to hear about this - the cafe is a great favourite of myself and Mrs TL. Just won\\''t be the same without Pedro.\r\n\r\nTL'),
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Ah Gerald you spoilsport lol you should\\''ve left it  :) \r\nWay back when I used to work as a researcher for a company who did business leads I used to have to hoick my backside round the numerous councils of the UK, laptop in hand to jot down planning applications. The one I always had trouble with was County Council, I won\\''t type what it was that used to come out... I shall leave you to guess...
\r\n\r\nLOL that would definitely be my sort of error.'),
(1995, 'Hi to all members,\r\n\r\nThere is most certainly a case for bringing back the tram system to Llandudno. If I remember rightly, there was a proposal several years ago that never got anywhere. I made good use of the free bus service from Bodafon fields to the top of Mostyn street over the weekend and it meant that we used the car as little as possible. It worked very well. I used it because it ran every five minutes so there was no waiting, and I didn’t have to park the car and pay through the nose for the privilege.\r\n\r\nParking in the town is a big problem and most of the traffic on Mostyn/Gloddaeth/Madoc/Lloyd street etc. is just circling looking for a parking space. Trams would free up the streets and make the town more user friendly. I would propose a park and ride scheme from Craig-y-don/Bodafon fields. A looped tram system that covered all the main streets in the  town that ran every five minutes. I’d be quite happy to pay so long as the cost was reasonable. Perhaps a “ride all day” ticket to encourage its use. So long as the service was very frequent and you could get on or off at regular intervals, I’m sure it would be a great success and an attraction in itself. If as Craig suggests, Llandudno is becoming a retail centre, surely a tram system would promote that to the benefit of the town as a whole. Jump on the tram and get off where you want. Bring ‘um back I say.\r\n\r\nMy vote is “yes”.'),
(13742, 'Welcome from the K Team  :D \r\nLlandudno residents will know us as the computer shop in Trinity Avenue by the traffic lights. Kindways computers have been repairing and upgrading local residents and business\\''s Pc\\''s and laptops for a number of years now and whatever your Pc related problem we have probably come across it before.\r\nPlease feel free to ask any question no matter how simple or complicated we will endeavour to help.\r\neg: where\\''s the any key? to how does my new Vista laptop access my wireless network, or connect to the internet? \r\nWe will update weekly with subjects we think will be helpfull.\r\nLooking forward to helping you all,\r\nThe K Team.'),
(13746, 'Probably spare light-bulbs for the string-decorations  :|'),
(13747, 'SC, is anyone allowed to erect boxes of this size or does permission need to be sought first from Highways?'),
(13748, 'I was thinking it was maybe to store the street cleaners butties in?  :wink: \r\n\r\nBrian, I imagine the pole belongs to CCBC, so permission must be sought from them?\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Hi K Team\r\nYou may know that Virgin had some problems the other week, but didn’t tell anyone. This resulted in no email for a day or so. Because we didn’t know what was going on I Bug***d about a bit and now I can’t send emails I have to use webmail. I can receive them OK.\r\nAny idea what I have done????\r\nMany thanks\r\nGerry
\r\n\r\nBT virgin Sky Tiscali all provide email with the broadband connection and all allow for POP email\r\nPOP email is for a programme, outlook express incredimail etc  to collect emails and deliver them to your PC. This is like sending a postman to the post office to get your mail and push it through the letterbox.\r\n\r\nWeb mail is for you to log in to the post office and look at edit, delete, the mail while in the post office \r\nMost of the big providers of broadband prefer you to use the web mail system. However if you remain signed in to the web mail then send your postman(outlook express) to collect mail you may get an error.\r\nThe postman turns up and asks the post office for the mail but as far as the post office is concerned you are already at the counter looking at your post and the postman comes away empty handed.\r\nI usually recommend to home users to set your email programme to leave a copy of messages on the server so email is available both at home and away from any pc, but always sign out of the web mail before sending the postman to collect your mail to save on your Pc. \r\nHope this helps\r\n\r\n :D'),
(1997, 'The cost of public transport has soared for years and trains are certainly the worst. As for booking in advanced the prices quoted are normally the super/advanced saver type fares and look very good but what they fail to mention that those seats are very limited no matter when you book. Try booking 20 people for the cheapest ticket from Llandudno to London!\r\nBuses are the most expensive for a single journey I have ever known. I always advise people to buy a daily ticket which is a more reasonable deal but if you take someone who is on minimum wages £25 per week is a lot to get to work.\r\nWhile I am about it a modern metro system would work but it would need to cover more than Llandudno to be worth doing I would think you would need to look to transport 10,000 people a week to make it pay.\r\nHowever it is perhaps a bit wishful to expect tram or bus to service park and ride for one simple reason; car travellers in a catchment area such as  this travel for shopping in the main and you can’t carry bulky items on public transport and people will always chose a car.\r\nIn any debate over public transport don’t get romantic the old tram is gone but modern versions like Croydon or Manchester are more realistic. And don’t think it’s because Arriva are charging what he like because it’s a monopoly look at how much the council charge to get up the Orme by train!\r\nYes this is on the Arriva string as well'),
(1999, 'I can remember sitting on colwyn  sands building sandcastles and watching the trams goin up the incline near the puppet theatre(of which the name escapes me)I think they were toastracks but cannot be sure,as it was 1956 a year before the trams demise.All I can remember is that they were very bogies that they were mounted on.Good luck to all that are restoring the double deck tram.Is it one of the ones from accrington.Ialso have some fond memories of travelling on a toast rack dropping down into llandudno(wish i had taken pictures of it)I do however enjoy all the pictures that are available online from those days,being from Manchester I suppose I didnt get much chance to travel on them as much as I wished.\r\n\r\n\r\nNick Marler :roll:'),
(13731, 'The last surviving ship of the Liverpool & North Wales Steamship Co is\r\nbeing demolished at Salerno. Work began at the weekend after a long\r\ndispute between the owner and the local authority.\r\nThe ship was laid-down at Geestemünde in the first world war as a\r\nminesweeper, but was completed in 1919 as Hapag\\''s passenger steamer\r\nHÖRNUM. She acted as a tender and served Helgoland. In April 1922,\r\nshe was sold to the Liverpool and North Wales Steamship Co and renamed\r\nST ELIAN for summer excursions from Liverpool and Llandudno to Menai\r\nBridge, Blackpool, Holyhead, Bardsey Island, etc. She was sold to SPAN\r\nof Napoli after the 1927 season, becoming the PARTENOPE, then the\r\nISCHIA from 1949, and continued in service in the Golfo di Napoli till\r\nabout 1970, still steam powered. She was put on the beach at Salerno\r\nand opened as a restaurant/bar.\r\n the ST ELIAN survived 80 years after leaving British \r\nwaters and 45 years after the Liverpool & North Wales Steamship Co went \r\nout of business.'),
(13732, 'I remember the one in Garage St where you would have to climb the stairs to get to it. I can also remember a model railway exhibition in the Princess Cinema in Mostyn Street shortly after the picture house closed. It was absolutely fantastic and had everything there for the model railway enthusiast.'),
(13733, 'I am after some old wrist watches of the wind up type (not battery) to help my daughter learn the watch repair trade. Anyone out there got some they want to let us have?'),
(13734, 'I worked in the back bar of Sumners serving the food for about two years leading up to the last day-New Year\\''s Eve 1986?\r\nIt was a sad day,I loved working there.\r\nWe had the run of the bar after the last customer had left.\r\nIt had been nice working for Mrs Bleakley,Richard and David.\r\nI also worked there during the 70\\''s.'),
(13735, 'Yes, I remember going to see the one in the Prince\\''s cinema.  It was an excellent layout but I can\\''t recall whose it was or why it was there.\r\n\r\nDoes anyone remember a miniature railway at the Summit when Randolph Turpin/Leslie Salts had it.  I wonder if it was moved to Gwrych Castle as they had one there as well.'),
(13736, 'It looks like they\\''re anticipating competitors for the 2012 Olympics as well. If that amount of competitors and spectators were to converge on the town in the middle of the holiday season where would they park their vehicles? There\\''s insufficiant parking as it is now.'),
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The Llandudno 10 mile road race regularly attracred over 1000 runners until it was scrapped because of the rising insurance costs a couple of years ago.
\r\nVery true, but a Triathlon is a different kettle of fish altogether. I\\''d like to see a proper Ironman Triathlon held in Snowdonia - that involves swimming for 2.4 miles, then getting on your bike and riding for 112miles, then running for 26.2miles. I\\''\\''ve already signed you up, Trojan.  :lol: \r\n\r\nSC');
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(13739, 'making some assumptions here windows xp machine and outlook express for your email \r\n\r\nif we are recieving emails then most of the settings are in place\r\n\r\ngo to    tools(on the top menu bar)\r\n           accounts\r\n\r\nthis opens the accounts window \r\nselect    mail tab\r\nhighlight (single click) your email account (virgin)\r\nclick      properties button \r\nselect    servers\r\n\r\nshould read \r\n\r\npop        mail.virgin.net\r\nsmtp      mail.virgin.net\r\n\r\nusername       your full email\r\npassword        yourpassword\r\n\r\ntick the remember my password box\r\n\r\nalso tick the    my server requires authentication box\r\nthe settings should read same as my incoming server.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nthis is all you need to get mail out, but also can I add a bit of advice while in the accounts window, select advanced tab and tick leave a copy of mail on the server, all this does is make sure when you log in to the web page ie on holiday or from another pc you still have a copy of all the email outlook express has downloaded. \r\n\r\nif all this fails and my assumptions are wrong sit down in front of the PC and call 879312 and we will talk you through it.\r\nIan'),
(2001, 'Craig Y Don had their Recycling boxes today.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Gerald, I seem to remember Merfyn did sadly die in a motorway accident but I also believe there is an annual football match played locally in his memory.\r\n\r\nI made some enquiries about Sonny not too long ago and I believe he is now in a care home.\r\n\r\nI also saw Eddie not too long ago. \r\n\r\nI seem to remember it was always handy to know that on a Saturday evening one could always purchase a newspaper from Eddie for the football final results on the Carlton Buffet Corner.
\r\n\r\nNice to know sonny hasn`t left us yet. bet he keeps on his toes at the home. As for merfyn, I seem to remember he could have been involved with a football club selling programmes or something, I think he last lived in Mochdre.
\r\n\r\nMerfyn was a well known local character who helped a huge amount of charities in the town, and we all miss him since his tragic death. I used to attend the Llandudno Youth Centre at the same time as him many years ago and remember him all too well trying to vault over the horse in the gym. We were friends for many years. I often see his dear mother in town and say hello. I doubt her deep sadness at her loss will ever go away, but she can rest in the knowledge that those who had the pleasure of knowing him will always remember him fondly, and with a smile.'),
(2003, 'The rain began at around 4pm on June 10th 1993 and continued for three hours until around 7pm, and during that time, the water board estimated that around 500,000 million gallons of rain water fell over Llandudno and surrounding area, a great deal of which entered my home.\r\n\r\nThe Governemt refused to class it as a \\''Disaster\\'' because no one died during it. But if you looked in the Obituary columns over the following six months and noted the addresses of those who had passed away, one would have seen clear evidence that people did die as a result of the floods, but months later.\r\n\r\nTo lose one\\''s lifetime personal effects was just too much to bear for so many. It was the older generation who could not cope with their loss, which proved all too much.'),
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hi the goats wander down to Abbey Road somethimes but i dont dont think\r\n they go any further so residents of Llandudno wont have seen them LOL sorry just can imagine in town going shopping in Parc  Llandudno hic
\r\n\r\nHad them in our garden once-- not an experience to repeat I can tell you-- the mess and smell was unbelievable.'),
(2006, 'There was a turntable by the bridge, and as a younster I would spend ages watching the steam trains being turned around, pushed by hand if I remember correctly.\r\n\r\nI used to stand in the nearby field and wave furiously at the wonderful steam trains filled to overflowing with holiday makers coming to Llandudno for their holidays. Sadly those times have long gone, and the few trains that now pass are almost empty, even of locals.\r\n\r\nI suggest it will not be long before the Llandudno Railway Station is closed down, the bridge taken away and a new round-a-bout built on the hospital side of the bridge where the small round-a-bout is now.\r\n\r\nYou only have to look at the improvements recently made on the car park at Llandudno Junction railway station to get a sense of the future.'),
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There was a turntable by the bridge, and as a younster I would spend ages watching the steam trains being turned around, pushed by hand if I remember correctly.\r\n\r\nI used to stand in the nearby field and wave furiously at the wonderful steam trains filled to overflowing with holiday makers coming to Llandudno for their holidays. Sadly those times have long gone, and the few trains that now pass are almost empty, even of locals.\r\n\r\nI suggest it will not be long before the Llandudno Railway Station is closed down, the bridge taken away and a new round-a-bout built on the hospital side of the bridge where the small round-a-bout is now.\r\n\r\nYou only have to look at the improvements recently made on the car park at Llandudno Junction railway station to get a sense of the future.
\r\n\r\nI don\\''t think they\\''ll ever close Llandudno Station, it deals with over 235,000 passengers a year. Last I heard, plans were being drawn up by Conwy Council to spend £5 million developing it in a transport interchange, with 2 train platforms remaining in use, a series of bus/coach/taxi ranks built on the unused platforms, and a proper cafe/information/waiting area being built. As far as I know, funding has been delayed but the plan is still going ahead.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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\r\n\r\nI don\\''t think they\\''ll ever close Llandudno Station, it deals with over 235,000 passengers a year. Last I heard, plans were being drawn up by Conwy Council to spend £5 million developing it in a transport interchange, with 2 train platforms remaining in use, a series of bus/coach/taxi ranks built on the unused platforms, and a proper cafe/information/waiting area being built. As far as I know, funding has been delayed but the plan is still going ahead.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nI know somebody who has seen plans for a bus terminal connected to the railway station, apparently things do look set to go ahead in the future.'),
(2011, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nVery saddened to hear of this tragic loss. I remember John and chatted to him on many occasions when we visited the camera obscura with our son when he was younger. He took a great deal of trouble to explain it all to him and even let him operate the controls for a while. The camera obscura is a part of Llandudno\\''s history and is clearly visible in many old photographs and postcards. John kept it alive and in perfect working order for a new generation to enjoy. I hope a fitting memorial is made so that his contrubution will be remembered for ever.\r\n\r\nMay he rest in peace.'),
(2012, 'I would be very interested to know what type of music residents within a 5km radius of Llandudno would like to hear on \\''their Community Radio Station\\''. Also what type of discussion programmes would you like to hear and at what time of the day.\r\n\r\nAre there certain types of programmes you would like to hear? If so, when and why.'),
(2014, 'As I understand it, the council (even if they had the money), cannot compulsory purchase the Pier Pavillion until they have firm plans as to what to do with it, the money in place and a timescale of work. \r\n\r\nI also understand, and I am open to be corrected, that the council have previously gone down the road of compulsory purchase, but alegedly, just as things where getting close, the site was sold to another company (alegedly owned by the same company), meaning the council had to start all over again. \r\n\r\nThere is only so many times the council could do this before they get fed up, and the cost becomes too much.\r\n\r\nThis is, of course, all just hearsay and rumour - Or is it? Maybe someone knows more and would like to share their knowledge.\r\n\r\nThe site is listed though, and someone may have recently purchased the site in the last month or so? Seriously!'),
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I would be very interested to know what type of music residents within a 5km radius of Llandudno would like to hear on \\''their Community Radio Station\\''. Also what type of discussion programmes would you like to hear and at what time of the day.\r\n\r\nAre there certain types of programmes you would like to hear? If so, when and why.
\r\n\r\nHi Waffagolf, without disclosing your name to the forum as I dont have your prior permission, I did notice your name when I authenticated your registration and I understand you have a connection with Tudno Radio yourself, hence why your asking the question.\r\n\r\nA little background about me, i\\''m Craig Ollerton the founder of Llandudno Enthusiasts, I myself live 72 miles away and my question being is will I be able to tune into the radio online? This forum group is over 70 users strong and I expect that to more than double or even triple by this time next year seeing as the site hasnt been going that long we are doing very well. We have a member group ranging from locals to people reminiscing from the opposite side of the globe. I would be particularly interested in getting a live stream on our website or perhaps some kind of collaboration which could compliment us both. Similarly the North Wales Pioneer now offer a free online e-copy of their newspaper which is made available in the news section of our website, so no matter where you are in the world, people can keep up to date with local news. Allthough I frequently return to Llandudno, I could well be a listener here in Wigan myself.\r\n\r\nI would be particularly interested in listening to local debates/issues, maybe something like \\''question time\\'' where locals can ask councillors questions by telephoning in. I would like to see the encouragement of community spirit, giving local groups / clubs / societies a push, maybe live talks or insights into what they do.'),
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First time I came Llandudno was in the 70s... I then got married early 80s and  went there for my honeymoon, last year we were there again for our silver wedding, through the years we have stayed in holiday flats all over the town in the summer, we also went there for days out.\r\n\r\nWe came this year with our son and booked in a bed and breakfast for 3 days, first mistake was going Tribells, no wonder it was empty the prices they charged, boy their prices have shot up  :roll: \r\n\r\nWeather wasn\\''t to good, my son got bored, so we ended up going out of Llandudno to amuse him.\r\n\r\nI remember when they had crazy golf on the front think it was near the sailing club (someone might correct me) pity that vanished.\r\n\r\nI loved the christmas shop from years ago, thats gone.
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There was a crazy golf in the kiddies funland and futher along just passed the sailing club there was a pitch and putt golf course which was excellent.
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It was the pitch and putt I was thinking about pobo ,we enjoyed it very much shame its gone ,didn\\''t there used to be a pitch &putt or crazy golf behind the cafe on Happy Valley ,or is it still there?
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There was a putting green near the back of the cafe and a pitch and putt on the orme near llywynon rd.
\r\n\r\nMy favorite minature golf course was where the ski-slope is located today. It was quite an extensive course, but I can\\''t remember how many \\''holes\\'' it had. You paid your fee to a man located in a small wooden hut, who would then give you your club and scoring card. It was quite a difficult course with most shots taken up-hill.'),
(2017, 'Hello to all,\r\n\r\nJust to let you know. The Stories of Rhys - Book one "The Great Orme" is now available by post in CD form in a case. Have a look on the website for the details.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\n\r\nAlso on the website photo gallery is my visit to Ysgol Gwynedd in Flint. The children there love the book and and it was a fabulous day. BBC Radio Wales were there too and made a recording for their "mousemat" programme which will be aired on Sunday June 3rd at 5.00pm'),
(2018, 'My hope is that yes, you will be able to listen online to Llandudno Community Radio from wherever you are on the planet. The software isn\\''t that expensive (so I\\''m told), but there are licence issues too complicated to state here.\r\n\r\nAn open forum putting councillors \\''on the spot\\'' \\''live on air\\'' is something I would like to see included in programme schedules. LCR will be a voice, and a platform for the community. It should be used to bring about debate on important issues that directly affect all parts of local life, and in so doing bring about change for the better.\r\n\r\nSuch a service/facility is very badly needed here, and is long overdue. I can only imagine the great debates about the winfarm proposal, the cycle track, down grading of services at Llandudno General Hospital, pedestrianisation of Mostyn Street and so many other community issues, what great \\''peoples\\'' radio that would/will make, and compulsive listening for all who reside in our wonderful town.\r\n\r\nProgrammes devised, produced and presented by local people whom we can relate to whilst listening, people we know and chat to in the street, and who we know are there because they care and love the town and it\\''s inhabitants, and who want to make a difference.\r\n\r\nLlandudno Community Radio will broadcast to a 5km radius of the town, with all it\\''s speech and music content geared to that area alone, with it\\''s total focus on it\\''s target community. \r\n\r\nBecause of technical and atmospheric issues, around 83,000 people will be able to receive the signal, but LCR will be totally dedicated to listeners within that 5km radius, making it a true Community Radio Station with it\\''s own feel and identity.\r\n\r\nSorry, I\\''m rambling. I could talk on the subject forever and a day. I think it\\''s known as \\''Passion\\''.\r\n\r\nI take on board your comments and ideas and hope that the powers that be do too. After all, access and opportunity for \\''all\\'' is what Community Radio is all about. I just hope that all those involved in bringing the project about realise that too, and understand the need for total committment, enthusiasm, hard work - but most of all passion.'),
(13954, 'I enjoyed a lovely coffee & cake in the Rest and be Thankful cafe on the Orme yesterday. Mr Gorka transformed that cafe from a shed, into what it is now & all along he met nothing but opposition from the council. Many a person would have given up with all the obstacles placed in front of them, but not him.  It\\''s like history repeating itself all over again!'),
(13949, 'Hi all, it\\''s coming along nicely  :D\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(13950, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  :shock:'),
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2011, 04:09:09 PM »
(13953, 'Point Lynas on Anglesey is one of the top 12 hotspots to see Dolphins & Whales in the UK. It is situated midway between Amlwch & Dulas Bay.  I was lucky enough to see 2 pods of Dolphins jumping & feeding off Bull Bay Anglesey last April & when they had finished their display they swam off in the direction of Point Lynas.'),

(2021, 'Thankyou Vicar for that wonderful story.\r\nI`m pleased to hear the old church being remembered in this way.\r\nIknow that it wasn`t a good looking Church but it had character.\r\nDave.'),

(2022, 'I`m also a West shore Arab & I remember the effect these floods had on everyone who where directly affected including all my family, one of these\r\nbeing my Uncle Dave.\r\nWe are from one of the oldest family`s in Llandudno so we`ve all got a tremendous interest in the town, & my uncle collected old postcards of the place & had hundreds & hundreds, at that time he lived (he`s now deceased) in St Andrews Ave, which was ,as we know badly hit and lost nearly all of them & his albums & press cuttings, he was devastated.\r\nBut saying that a lot of people also lost treasured posessions, and as stated thank goodness there was no lives lost.\r\n\r\nP.S\r\n Did anyone also notice, that after the floods these buisneses started to pop up with every one suddenly being an expert carpet cleaner,or flood damage a speciality,or expert cleaners. all driving round in hastily bought old vans.!!'),

(2023, 'I did hear at the time, that the police were aware of this aspect and spent a lot of time stopping vehicles, especially vans with ladders on top as they were entering the town, in order to stop the unscrupulous from preying on the vulnerable who had been affected. Taking particular notice of vehicles from far outside the area.\r\n\r\nI wonder if anyone has ever considered writing a book about the disaster, for there are many untold stories that would make interesting reading. Such as the looter arresting in Craig-y-Don whilst dressed in a frogmans suit. The local DHSS department running out of money. Incredible insurance claims that proved false. \r\n\r\nI remember talking to an Insurance Assessor who told me that whilst going through claims, he noticed that at the time of the floods, there was no rubber backed carpet anywhere in Llandudno, it was all Wilton. Also, on his travels around the town, he had seen the same three piece suite seven times.'),

(2025, 'On a more personal note I was very upset that I received no response off Tudno FM having emailed them twice before for as much as a recipriocal web link or advert on their website pointing to OLLE, yet we are more than happy to spread the word about them here in our forum which benefits from over 1800 unique readers per month and some 3,000,000 hits a year. I am getting vibes that certain people and local groups for some reason do not wish to be associated with Llandudno Enthusiasts for whatever shallow minded reasons I do not know, but i\\''m afraid I will refuse to promote anyone who just turn their back on us.\r\n\r\nWithout waffling on too much, I give you one example of the Llandudno & District Historical Society, who I recently sent 3 emails requesting a recipriocal web link on their site, yet with no response. I sent another email under false pretence requesting historical research which might entail a fee of some kind, strangely enough that email did get a response, unbeknown to the Historical Society, that email was from myself, and I completely understand they do not wish to be associated with OLLE whatsoever, I noticed they reviewed their web links section recently, I did not qualify so it seems. I would imagine at least one of their members will be reading this, may I put it clear to them I now know where we stand.\r\n\r\nOn the contrary I merely highlight this as I do not wish to get off to the same start with Tudno FM, the way I see it is, we are all in the same boat here, and we should look after one another, Llandudno Community Radio has the potential to do so much for local business, local groups and local people which is the essence of community spirit. I am hoping you will have a word with the powers to be on my behalf regarding as much as a recipriocal web link to either You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login or You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login which I dont think is much to ask.\r\n\r\nI am sorry to be straight with you, but I stand for my members who are loyal to Llandudno Enthusiasts, and I simply dont want to be felt like we are being exploited then to be disregarded. I would like to think from what you tell us that the heart of Tudno FM is in the right place.\r\n\r\nI hope my forum group can offer you some good ideas and contribute to your question in hand.'),

(2027, 'With regards to your first paragraph, and the non response to your emails. It doesn\\''t surprise me that no one contacted you, for several months ago, I myself contacted them asking to be placed on their mailing list, but to date have heard absolutely nothing. Strange really, because I filled in their form on their website, and I know they received my info.\r\n\r\nIf I was officially involved with the project I wouldn\\''t hesitate to provide a link to your site. For this is something I would like to see happen with as many community groups etc as possible within our town.\r\n\r\nTheir website will play a hugely important role in both the community information and financial sustainability part of the project. The potential is limited only to their imagination and committment to implement ideas.\r\n\r\nWith any community project you have to be \\''Pro-Active\\'' not \\''Re-Active. You have to make things happen. You cannot wait around for things to come about then react, for that attitude only leads to failure.\r\n\r\nPassion for what you believe in gets things done \\''Pro-Actively\\''. But passion comes from within oneself, from your very soul. Some people think interest in something is passion, it\\''s not. One cannot pretend to have passion in/for something, for you\\''ve either got it or you haven\\''t. Those you talk to about your interest can see and more importantly, feel your passion, and if you have it - or not.\r\n\r\nI say this for several reasons, but mainly because radio, and Community Radio in particular, can reach into the very soul of the community and touch it\\''s very core. It can bring about change for the better that no one believed could be possible. It can motivate in a way no other media can. It can bring people together as one for the common good. It can motivate & stimulate debates on community issues that people never thought was possible.\r\n\r\nBut in order to achieve this, those involved with Community Radio Projects must have vision. This, along with dedication, committment, enthusiasm and hard work,will bring about one of the most important and influential, not to mention, life changing community services imaginable.\r\n\r\nBut, if those involved cannot even answer an email during conception, one might question if they have that which the project, by it\\''s very nature, demands.'),

(2028, 'Here\\''s the original plan, might have changed a tad since - you\\''ll have to zoom in to see the detail:
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But, if those involved cannot even answer an email during conception, one might question if they have that which the project, by it\\''s very nature, demands.
\r\n\r\nI absolutely I agree, I am very passionate about what I do here at OLLE at times it can be a bit of a one man band for me having only recently taken on the new main group members.\r\n\r\nEach day I receive more than 10 emails relating to in and around my group, I endeavour to answer every single one of them, even if it takes me a day or two to get round to it sometimes.\r\n\r\nI act as the face for this group, and the email front is one of them faces, but as I clearly gave an example about the Llandudno District Historical Society, a core player in this community, to ignore with no reason undermines the credability of the group itself, as I said I received a reply on another email which one may say was \\''in their own interests\\''. So obviously I was a little upset to find the same from the Tudno FM when I received no email despite getting in touch twice, I have been let down on this face and wonder whether to approach again in the future now.\r\n\r\nI hope the links will be tied between ourselves and Tudno FM and so we can equally support their cause here at Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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As I understand it, the council (even if they had the money), cannot compulsory purchase the Pier Pavillion until they have firm plans as to what to do with it, the money in place and a timescale of work. \r\n\r\nI also understand, and I am open to be corrected, that the council have previously gone down the road of compulsory purchase, but alegedly, just as things where getting close, the site was sold to another company (alegedly owned by the same company), meaning the council had to start all over again. \r\n\r\nThere is only so many times the council could do this before they get fed up, and the cost becomes too much.\r\n\r\nThis is, of course, all just hearsay and rumour - Or is it? Maybe someone knows more and would like to share their knowledge.\r\n\r\nThe site is listed though, and someone may have recently purchased the site in the last month or so? Seriously!
\r\n\r\nThe Council told me recently that the owner of the land has declined all attempts by the Council to talk about the redevelopment of the Pavilion site. They are still working with private developers on redevelopment schemes, in the hope that they will be able to negotiate the purchase of the site from the owner.\r\n\r\nCompulsory purchase would have required the approval of the Council\\''s Cabinet and nothing has ever appeared in the minutes. There\\''s a good overview of the Compulsory Purchase procedure here:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login present owner, David Taylor of Worcester, has owned the Pier Pavilion site since 1999, according to the Land Registry. If anyone would like to see the PDFs for the title register, deeds, or 1983 conveyancing document, let me know and I\\''ll put them up somewhere.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(2032, 'Your confusing me ABJ3500, what i\\''m saying is Tudno FM have their own website which you can contact them from, I didnt get a response, neither did a few other people that I know of. Ignorance if you ask me, if I offered them £1000 sponsorship i\\''d probably get a response. Hence why I gave the example of Llandudno Historical Society, they only give a response when it was something of interest to them.\r\n\r\nSo talking of the \\''face\\'' front, I have been presented with a bad face from both organisations, considering we are a relatively new group getting our footing and getting to know local groups in the area, we are learning who our friends are too, and those who are not. I am not being petty but i\\''m sticking up for my group here, i\\''ve heard some nasty comments about us in the community from certain folk who decide to ignore us or feel they are bigger and better. We are a group which stands for progress, and I envision we will establish ourselves someday as one of the major players in the community as we continue to move forward as a non-profit group/society with a difference. It is at this early stage that Llandudno Enthusiasts sought ties with local groups/societies, those that choose to ignore us, I dont forget too easily.'),
(2033, 'Joke : Face for radio etc...Or perhaps thats only a joke round here in Nottingham?\r\n\r\nI wont give up the day job.....'),
(2034, 'On the subjects of \\''Trust\\'' and the connection with the meaning of \\''Community\\'', I offer the following in the hope it will enlighten those who need a clearer vision of what both can bring to community projects.\r\n\r\nTrust – the confident expectation that people, institutions and things will act in a consistent, honest and appropriate way (or more accurately, ‘trustworthiness’ – reliability) is essential if communities are to flourish. Closely linked to norms of reciprocity and networks of civic engagement (Putnam 1993; Coleman 1990), social trust – trust in other people – allows people to cooperate and to develop. Trusting others does not entail us suspending our critical judgment – some people will be worthy of trust, some will not. \r\n\r\nOne of the fascinating things about these qualities is that in a very important sense such expectations do not need to be imposed upon people. As Matt Ridley (1997: 249) put it, ‘Our minds have been built by selfish genes, but they have been built to be social, trustworthy and cooperative’. He continues: \r\n\r\nHumans have social instincts. They come into the world equipped with predispositions to learn how to cooperate, to discriminate the trustworthy from the treacherous, to commit themselves to be trustworthy, to earn good reputations, to exchange goods and information, and to divide labour… Far from being a universal feature of animal life, as Kropotkin believed, this instinctive cooperativeness is the very hallmark of humanity and what sets us apart from other animals. (Ridley 1997: 249)\r\n\r\nTo this extent, the cultivation of reciprocity, honesty and trust is less about building alien institutions and structures, than creating the conditions for their emergence. Self-interest may bring people together, but in interaction something else emerges. ‘Feelings and ideas are renewed, the heart enlarged, and the understanding developed, only by the reciprocal action of men one upon another’ (de Tocqueville: 515).\r\n\r\nChild development is powerfully shaped by social capital. Trust, networks, and norms of reciprocity within a child’s family, school, peer group, and larger community have far reaching effects on their opportunities and choices, and hence on their behaviour and development (ibid.: 296-306)\r\n\r\nPublic spaces in high social-capital areas are cleaner, people are friendlier, and the streets are safer. Traditional neighbourhood “risk factors” such as high poverty and residential mobility are not as significant as most people assume. Places have higher crime rates in large part because people don’t participate in community organizations, don’t supervise younger people, and aren’t linked through networks of friends. (ibid.: 307-318)\r\n\r\nEconomic prosperity. A growing body of research suggests that where trust and social networks flourish, individuals, firms, neighbourhoods, and even nations prosper economically. Social capital can help to mitigate the insidious effects of socioeconomic disadvantage. (ibid.: 319-325)\r\n\r\n Health. There appears to be a strong relationship between the possession of social capital and better health. ‘As a rough rule of thumb, if you belong to no groups but decide to join one, you cut your risk of dying over the next year in half. If you smoke and belong to no groups, it’s a toss-up statistically whether you should stop smoking or start joining’ (ibid.: 331). Regular club attendance, volunteering, entertaining, or church attendance is the happiness equivalent of getting a college degree or more than doubling your income. Civic connections rival marriage and affluence as predictors of life happiness (ibid.: 333).\r\n\r\nTaking this into account , a true Community Radio Station can play a vital role in society. There is wisdom in not losing sight of that.'),

(2035, 'What you like ABJ3500! lol, well waffagolf, another member here in our forum community from outside Llandudno, Nottingham in fact. So I think getting a radio stream on the internet is a MUST, thats two people already that could potentially be listening to Tudno FM whilst reminiscing in our Forum Community at the same time! :)\r\n\r\nCan we have some more contributions for Tudno FM please, what music would we like to hear, discussions, topics, debates etc?'),

(2037, 'I always like "lively" debates about things people feel really strongly about. The one about windfarms on this very forum jumps to mind.I think the presenters are the ones who make radio interesting, so some enthusiastic presenters are a must\r\n\r\nAnd yes we need a stream over t`internet definately.Oh and a studio webcam (dunno why radio stations have these its always boring!!)'),

(2039, 'Hoping not to sound picky, but didnt you purchase a domain name with Llandudno in the title ? Isn`t it better to start using that name on all literature as it gives a geographic focus ?'),

(2042, 'I presently own You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login which stands for \\''Old Llandudno\\'' Enthusiasts (official name) or Llandudno Enthusiasts for short, and I also own You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, both which point to either the main site or the forum site of OLLE.'),

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It looks really good Craig But i think drop the storm trouper i could not understand where they fitted in this weekends victorian theme.
\r\n\r\nHi Pobo, one I couldnt find anything else to fit the right posture for the poster :D also I felt that allthough the Extravaganza is suppose to traditionally be Victorian there has always been that carnival aspect to it with each year having its own suprises in the parades, so I felt it gave the poster a bit of a twist. I know where your coming from though. I\\''ll have a rethink and look through my stock photography, in fact that reminds me, need get in touch with Gerald our new photographer to see if he\\''s been doing his job over the Extravaganza weekend, he might have some interesting pics for us.\r\n\r\nCheers, Craig.'),


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Some interesting ones for me, I would say though if there is going to be an extention of a story on any particular building etc, think if its worth starting up a new thread and getting a whole new topic going. Well I remember very large milk vending machines one outside the main post office, the other by Billy Macs by the railway station, I remember the old fire station at the back of the town hall, the large bell that hung high outside, and the old dennis fire engines with the the big wagon wheels on the back for the ladders. The old "Rowlands" Barbers a few doors up from W h Smith, The windmill on the carlton roundabout.  The half day wednesday closing, the football stadium as it was to me. The donkey fields always flooding, and rabbits running about galore. papers being sold on street corners and they never had to have a dog with them for extra money....lol Policemen walking, that was frightening enough for us. Council men sweeping streets with a brush, not a prototype space buggy. dual carriageway around town that didn`t jam. Less cars on the road and even safe to ride your bike in town.[/b]
\r\n\r\nHi Gerald, many thanks for sharing your memories with us. I do not remember the Milk Vending Machine outside the Post Office, but I do remember one outside Billy Macs and the other outside where the Habitat Tea rooms is now. The milk came out in a paper carton that was covered in candle wax, because they were easily damaged they frequently leaked on the corners and by the time you got home, you\\''d of lost half your pint  :lol: If I remember rightly it was sixpence for a pint, and when you opened the carton there was a layer of wax floating on the milk.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Anybody remember going on the trips that sammy owen used to organise from cwm place to butlins.\r\nRemember those double deckers leaving maesdu road in a convoy full with screaming kids.
\r\n\r\nSam Owen used to run a scrap yard down back Madoc St right opposite Ball & Boyd. He had two guys working for him, cant remember the names, as more memories come to me i\\''ll let you know.\r\n\r\nI remember him organising the trips to Butlins but never went on oen myself.\r\n\r\nRichard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

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Here\\''s the original plan, might have changed a tad since - you\\''ll have to zoom in to see the detail:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/243/Transport_Interchange_Llandudno.pdf\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nThat looks like what he described, where did you get it from? whats the status of the proposition?
\r\n\r\nIf you go to Google and type in \\''Llandudno Transport Interchange\\'', it comes up straight away. The work was originally to be funded by a combination of various grants and selling the existing Coach Park for development. I think there\\''s currently a problem with obtaining the grant element, hence the project has stalled. Hopefully, they can get it sorted out before too long, as the appearance of the existing station is pretty embarrassing, in spite of Arriva\\''s best efforts to brighten the place up by painting everything blue.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(2053, 'SC[/quote]\r\nIf you go to Google and type in \\''Llandudno Transport Interchange\\'', it comes up straight away. The work was originally to be funded by a combination of various grants and selling the existing Coach Park for development. I think there\\''s currently a problem with obtaining the grant element, hence the project has stalled. Hopefully, they can get it sorted out before too long, as the appearance of the existing station is pretty embarrassing, in spite of Arriva\\''s best efforts to brighten the place up by painting everything blue.\r\nSC[/quote]\r\n\r\nInteresting, I have heard rumours that there are plans for the existing coach park on mostyn broadway, as for the one in builder street, I know although they have camera`s there, the coaches still get vandalised.'),

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\r\n\r\nHi Gerald, many thanks for sharing your memories with us. I do not remember the Milk Vending Machine outside the Post Office, but I do remember one outside Billy Macs and the other outside where the Habitat Tea rooms is now. The milk came out in a paper carton that was covered in candle wax, because they were easily damaged they frequently leaked on the corners and by the time you got home, you\\''d of lost half your pint  :lol: If I remember rightly it was sixpence for a pint, and when you opened the carton there was a layer of wax floating on the milk.\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nI remember the wax, the machines were like the big american fridge freezers we now have in size. Couldnt remember how much the milk was, but you are right about them leaking all the time. I remember the milk vender was right next to where the telephone kiosks are.'),

(2055, 'I was chatting to one of my neighbours who told me that there are a network of tunnels underneath Llandudno and that someone does tours round them.\r\nHas anyone heard of this and does anyone know more about these tunnels ?'),

(2056, 'well i for one think it would be a great idea and surely it would bring benefits to the town. As chris so rightly said traffic is a nightmare and as for parking prices they are just over priced.\r\nBlackpool has trams running every 10/15min along the prom in season with regular stops so that you can hop on and hop off. They bring many people into the town especially during the illuminations and they them selves are a main attraction. The money made from the trams goes to repairing the tracks and repairing the illuminations aswell as providing funds for new ones. we currently are in the process of introducing the new trams but i personally prefer taking a ride on the older ones. Of course with everything there is a down side and one of the ones that comes with blackpool trams is the price charged to get on the trams themselves. Most would say that it is fairly priced but i think that for locals it should be made slightly cheaper and this is one thing that should be taken into close consideration if trams were to be introduced in llandudno.\r\nAnother area of consern to me would be the safety side of things. Ok in blackpool risks are increased this is due to the stupid drunks that think they are invinceable and can walk in front of traffic which sometimes includes trams but what about safety and the trams in llandudno? \r\nTime tables would also have to be a main issue because if people have to wait around to long then they wont use the service and it would just be a waste of money to even introduce it in the first place. Accessability would also be a key factor, in blackpool the newer trams have ramps for wheelchair users and the steps onto the trams are lower down to enable anyone with mobility problems such as the elderly with walking sticks to be able to get on the trams, so this could be a factor to consider for llandudno. It would be a good idea for the shop keepers to have there say on this matter how would they feel about having trams going past there shops at regular intervals? Do they feel that it would have a good or negative impact on there business?\r\nDo we feel that trams are a solution to traffic conjestion?\r\nAre they going to be good for the environment?\r\nKeep your theorys and suggestions coming'),
(2057, 'Y\\''know considering that Llandudno is a coastal town, I\\''ve always wondered if our town had a history of pirates/privateers,  ( not including the ones about today lol ) so far I\\''ve reached a big fat zero in trying to root something out. \r\nAnyone know ?'),

(2060, 'Y\\''know considering that Llandudno is a coastal town, I\\''ve always wondered if our town had a history of pirates/privateers,  ( not including the ones about today lol ) so far I\\''ve reached a big fat zero in trying to root something out. \r\nAnyone know ?  \r\n  North Wales  \r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n\r\nOur Pirates fancy dress trip became rocky horrorAug 2 2006\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\nBy Steve Bagnall, Daily Post\r\n \r\n  \r\nA TEENAGER who got lost at sea off North Wales while dressed as a pirate told of his embarrassment last night.\r\n\r\nJoe Adams, 18, and two friends donned Pirates Of The Caribbean-style outfits and took to the high seas in an inflatable dinghy.\r\n\r\nBut the craft drifted out off the coast of Anglesey, leaving the three pals stranded.\r\n\r\nYesterday Dave Massey, of Moelfre RNLI, again hammered home the dangers of going to sea on inflatables.\r\n\r\nThe inshore lifeboat launched last Wednesday with Dave\\''s colleagues on board to rescue the three adrift pirates after a member of the public spotted them and called the coastguard.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\nI know it is not quite what you meant but it made me smile.'),

(2062, 'Thats an interesting one, I know there are tunnels beneath the Victorian Centre (modern ones of course). When I worked in Famous Army Stores the old Williams Typewriters on Mostyn St, there was a blocked off tunnel there.\r\n\r\nTheres many a lurking depths beneath the town i\\''m sure, underneath the Grand Hotel for example which goes whey whey down, so i\\''m told the original boilers are still down there for which they pumped sea water into the baths hotel swimming pool.\r\n\r\nNot sure who conducts the tours, Great Orme Exploration Society? I know they do a lot of caving and tunneling etc, I did contact them a while ago, again another one of them groups that just cant be bothered to respond to their emails.\r\n\r\nI will try get in touch with John Lawson-Reay, he usually knows the ins and outs of this town and may be able to answer our question.'),

(6233, 'Horesh jumpers were a nightmare- one wash and they were half-way up your back.'),

(2066, 'HI, I know the Kings Head pub, as the oldest one in Llandudno has a history with smugglers, think there is some info in one of the Llandudno books.'),

(2067, 'I had a little look on the website for Tudno FM, was disappointed to see they dont have any young members on their board of directors which is a shame to see. This doesnt present the \\''all round\\'' image you\\''d expect from a community radio station.\r\n\r\nLINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nHistorian for Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(2068, 'hey what happened to Ian Turner? wasnt he associated with this project when it was first mentioned, havent heard anything about him working on it since.'),

(2070, 'I\\''ll leave waffagolf to answer that question for you, you\\''ll be suprised by his answer I think :D\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(2076, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nThe first time I went to Llandudno aged eight, back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death, my Dad took me to pigeon cave and we climbed down a rusty old ladder that descended through a hole in the rocky ledge down onto the beach. I thought this was just fantastic, like a smugglers cave, and it conjured up images of pirates and barrels of ill gotten gains being carried off small boats in the moonlight.\r\n\r\nWhilst we were at the extravaganza last weekend, we all went down there. Alas, the rusty ladder was all rust now and had disappeared apart from its attachment to the rock. I had to jump off the ledge to get onto the beach and took some photo’s which I’ve put in the photo section for everyone. Someone has rigged up a chain and wood ladder to assist the return journey but it just ain’t the same.\r\n\r\nAnyone else remember the ladder?'),

(2077, 'I look at a lot of websites that search for these types of tunnels etc, I have never seen any in Llandudno, but have heard of ones under "The Grand Hotel", The Empire Hotel and The Hydro Hotel. But this is only rumours. I would love to see this sort of thing.'),

(2078, 'Well I myself would love the look and the chance to ride on trams around LLandudno, However, I think they would be too dangerous for the streets. BUT, they exist in other busy cities and many European countries, so any obvious risks must have been measured. I would only object to them on a financial level. Llanduno wastes enough money at times as it is.');

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Hi all,\r\n\r\nThe first time I went to Llandudno aged eight, back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death, my Dad took me to pigeon cave and we climbed down a rusty old ladder that descended through a hole in the rocky ledge down onto the beach. I thought this was just fantastic, like a smugglers cave, and it conjured up images of pirates and barrels of ill gotten gains being carried off small boats in the moonlight.\r\n\r\nWhilst we were at the extravaganza last weekend, we all went down there. Alas, the rusty ladder was all rust now and had disappeared apart from its attachment to the rock. I had to jump off the ledge to get onto the beach and took some photo’s which I’ve put in the photo section for everyone. Someone has rigged up a chain and wood ladder to assist the return journey but it just ain’t the same.\r\n\r\nAnyone else remember the ladder?
\r\n\r\nGreat pictures chris, always wanted to see this as I do tend to be a bit over cautious at times and only have ever been to the hole once.'),

(2080, 'The only tunnels that I have heard of apart from the old mine workings are to do with the huge Victorian Sewage tanks which are supposed to be under Gloddaeth Avenue/Street, they must have had some way of maintaining them. Although judging by the smell coming up the drains opposit M&S something, somewhere is either leaking or someone has died underground ! Phew !'),

(2082, 'Not much coming up for Llandudno but I did find this web site which is really interesting, about smugglers and Conwy and Anglesey are mentioned : You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login '),

(2083, 'Well its really interesting to read all of these posts. Here in blackpool we recycle but we dont use these boxes everyone keeps going on about we have big wheely bins for our recycling. We have a blue lidded bin for glass, tins and plastic and a green lidded bin for cardboard and grass etc then we have our normal black bin for all the other rubbish that wont be recycled. When recycling came into place in blackpool we all thought it would be a pain in the bum having to sort through every thing we used but it isnt that bad now we are used to it. The normal bin gets collected every week and the too recycle bins get collected every two weeks. I come from a family of four and we dont find this a problem. Before the scheme came into place the whole community was sent letters expalining what was going to happen and a help line was set up incase there were any questions. Im amazed to hear that so many places still dont recycle  due to the council in these areas not putting the idea forward to the public. When i go to wigan to visit craig im shocked the recycle plan hasnt been put into place there as it has meant to be implamented throughout the whole of lancashire we all need to play our part in order to help the future. Maybe it would be an idea to put ideas forward to llandudno council for the implamentation of recycle bins and get the views of other resisdents and see where it goes from there'),
(2084, 'Hi Sezbaby,\r\nI think that the idea of using bins as opposed to the boxes is a brilliant idea, and I would be more than happy to make room for a bigger bin to recycle in. The only thing would be lack of space, where we live its quite compact and bijou lol a little like sardines in a can and outside space is a premium which people do squabble over.\r\n Parking your car outside your own house can be a total nightmare and sadly often leads to disagreements with certain people in our road, and the normal refuse bins we have now cause enough problems - people can be so petty over things at times.'),

(2085, 'hi kate,This is true the bins here in blackpool do take up room and im sure they would work really well in llandudno if not for the space issue. The only other solution would be to go back to what craig said about improving the locations of recycle centres. Most major super markets have some sort of facility but the down side to this is that if you dont have a car then you are limited to where you can go. Not only that but these recycle bins get full up very quickly as people are all forced to go and recycle there. Improving locations would be the best option really. The question is where would people consider conveniant but at the same time not too close to homes, businesses and the beautiful scenary that llandudno has to offer? This is a problem that will pop up over and over again as people want to recycle they just dont want recycle centres near them so whaere else is left? you just cant please everyone. One idea would be to use deralict bulidings that are all boarded over to place the bins there but question is would it work?\r\nWhat other options can people come up with?\r\n\r\nSarah'),

(2086, 'Hi Sarah,\r\nI think that alot of it comes down to wether people can be bothered to make the effort. I\\''m restricted in my mobility at times,but there are at least three places local to me where i can get to, to recycle.\r\n\r\nEven if I can\\''t manage the walk , I ask people ( that i know ) if they\\''re going that way and would they mind taking a bag or two for me ( but then I\\''m a cheeky moo like that lol )\r\n\r\nAs to where the main recycling areas are placed, alot of supermarkets do offer the facility, even some of the local ones. Derelict buildings I think would open up the risk of vandalism and fire. It would also mean some sort of supervision, which would mean outlay from the council.\r\n\r\nHowever there are plenty of what look like unused areas that have been cleared that maybe could be used and are not too near houses etc.'),

(2087, 'I remember working on the old victorian sewers under mostyn street when they collapsed that was in the mid 70s you could walk upright in them  with no problems .'),

(2088, 'Would it not be better if the community radio station was run by the community as half of those named are from outside of the area.'),

(2089, 'oh dear not sure which book now sorry it could have been the one by Ivor Wynne Jones (its mentioned on a thread here somewhere) hubbys asleep on the couch right now so I will ask him if he can remember and get back to you , perhaps any Orme residents out there might know about the stories.'),

(2090, 'In response to Richards point on younger Board members, there\\''s no reason why there can\\''t be younger people involved, but any community project has to start somewhere then evolve, and as \\''Opportunity and Access for All\\''is key to the project, may I suggest anyone interested in having a seat on the Board contact the powers that be. I have no idea if anyone will respond, but it\\''s worth a go.\r\n\r\nRichard will I\\''m sure be interested to know that during an Open Day held at Ty Hapus, a Director of the Radio project was asked by a 14 year old if they would be allowed to present their own programme, or were they too young. The response was yes, of course you can.\r\n\r\nI am not at liberty to divulge the name of that Director.\r\n\r\nIn response to the question posed by Northwalescpl. The person in question is no longer on the Board of Directors having resigned his position during 2006. He tried to lead from the front and by example, but his efforts never brought about the desired result. \r\n\r\nHe was, and still is, extremely hurt and saddened to no longer be a part of such an incredibly important community project, one which could, if run properly, bring with it lasting benefits to our community for generations to come. He had thought that all the other Board members felt the same as him towards the project, but was proved sadly wrong.\r\n\r\nThere\\''s always the possibility that he was and still is, too passionate about the projects concept and vision, but that passion did yield the project in excess of £250,000 in grant funding before he left. \r\n\r\nThat same passion, amongst other things,  formed the Company and obtained it\\''s charitable status. It is hoped that same passion will see the project being awarded a Big Lottery Fund grant of some £579,000, with the announcement being made on June 1st 2007.\r\n\r\nThere\\''s an old saying, and it\\''s very true, that \\''The more you do, the more they let you do\\'', but one can only do so much before drawing a line. He remembers emailing the Vice-Chairman in the early hours of one morning asking "Can I go to bed now please, the sun\\''s coming up". One can only live life in that way for so long before it effects health and personal life.\r\n\r\nPerhaps his fellow Board members could\\''ve done something to help him have an early night now and again.'),

(2092, 'I always heard that there was supposed to be a tunnel under the old hall in penrhyn bay, something to do with the monks or something??'),

(6462, 'I am pleased to have not had to call on the services at Bodnant EMI but believe for a true debate to take place some further information is required.\r\n\r\nDoes anyone have the facts and figures, usage, cost, staffing, efficiency?\r\n\r\nIs this a residential hospital or just a day centre?'),

(14016, 'Thanks for the info.\r\nWent to News n Things,Trinity Avenue and they will deliver for me.\r\nSeem very nice people.\r\nI opted for this shop as it will be easier to park on a Saturday morning when we go to pay the bill :)'),

(2095, 'True true the solution to the problem is one which we cant seem to get the answer too however i do agree with you on the fire and vandalism risk but what i meant to say which is my fault is that if these buildings are not going to be restored or made to good use then they could always be knocked down and have recycle bins but there in stead or at least something which would benefit the community. The idea of recycling is to save resources for the future and i think one of the main troubles the government face is the willingness of the public and councils to implement these targets as not only is it a pain to do for the local residents but its also a mony issue for local councils.\r\n\r\nsarah'),

(2096, 'Hi again Kate, hubby remembers an article in the weekly news a while ago about the Kings Head being Llandudnos oldest pub and smugglers were mentioned.'),

(2098, 'I\\''ve been in the tunnel that linked the cellars of the Pier Pavilion with the Grand Hotel.\r\n\r\nSC'),

(2100, 'There are many service tunnels spread throughout llandudno, I would have thought there isn`t many tunnels still in action due to the fact that most of the town cellars used to suffer from flooding constantly. I wonder if any hotel owners can shine any light on the subject.'),

(2101, 'Thing that always amazes me is that there are so many buildings in this town with passages beneath the buildings themselves, or cellars, it certainly appears to be attributed with the Victorian early Edwardian buildings mostly, not something of modern day architecture, although one would guess there a few exceptions.\r\n\r\nSomething else has just come to mind, I believe there are shafts beneath the Hafod-y-Mor Hotel, theres a reservoir beneath the putting green near the Headlands, the Ty Gwyn Mine tunnels sit beneath the Empire Hotel car park, keep sharing your knowledge peeps.'),

(2103, 'There are, of course, the old mine workings the entrance to which is through a manhole cover near the piller box at the pier entrance.\r\nThis is usually open at Bank Holiday weekends and manned by people who have maps and photographs.\r\nImpossible to visit without pot holers gear though.\r\nSome workings have collapsed and thus are blocked but I\\''m pretty sure the main tunnel is passable from the pier head uo to near Black Gate.\r\nI think if you do a Google you might find more.'),

(2104, 'What was the route of the railway siding to the Gasworks and is there any sign of remains of it today?'),

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There are, of course, the old mine workings the entrance to which is through a manhole cover near the piller box at the pier entrance.\r\nThis is usually open at Bank Holiday weekends and manned by people who have maps and photographs.\r\nImpossible to visit without pot holers gear though.\r\nSome workings have collapsed and thus are blocked but I\\''m pretty sure the main tunnel is passable from the pier head uo to near Black Gate.\r\nI think if you do a Google you might find more.
\r\n\r\nYes this is the entrance to the Ty Gwyn mines, I was lucky to have ventured down here with the Great Orme Exploration Society a few years back now, great experience, would love to do it again someday. More information can be found on the GOES website.'),

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Thing that always amazes me is that there are so many buildings in this town with passages beneath the buildings themselves, or cellars, it certainly appears to be attributed with the Victorian early Edwardian buildings mostly, not something of modern day architecture, although one would guess there a few exceptions.\r\n\r\nSomething else has just come to mind, I believe there are shafts beneath the Hafod-y-Mor Hotel, theres a reservoir beneath the putting green near the Headlands, the Ty Gwyn Mine tunnels sit beneath the Empire Hotel car park, keep sharing your knowledge peeps.
\r\n\r\nThere are some fantastic pictures of the Orme tunnels on the GOES site, Great Orme Exploration Society, the following link is to the reservior pic.  I would love to be part of that group, but when you see some of the places they go into, I get claustrophobic just looking at the pic.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.goes.org.uk/html/others.html'),

(10797, 'Bri,\r\n\r\nI think the pelican at the Links went in first for several reasons:\r\n\r\n1. Main route for pedestrians going to Craig y Don school from the estates.\r\n\r\n2. Tied in with cycle route by Asda.\r\n\r\n3. Maybe the councillors for there are more active.\r\n\r\n4. Useful for patrons of Links coming from Liddell Park !!!!'),

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What was the route of the railway siding to the Gasworks and is there any sign of remains of it today?
\r\n\r\nThat was the route that went alongside cwm road (commercial road) passed the welsh primary school Ysgol Morfa Rhianedd, the line I believe was taken up in the 50s when they built the houses there.'),

(2109, 'I have also picked up another one, a fourth edition, 1967 mint in dust jacket, a real bargain at 99p with £1 postage. Thank god for Ebay.'),

(6084, 'The cinder path from Denness Place to The Oval is still there.'),

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Anyone remember \\''Big Mo\\'' who emigrated to Llandudno from Withington in Manchester around \\''79?\r\nHe used to entertain the holiday-makers in the early \\''80\\''s by placing his \\''Ghetto blaster\\'' on the pavement outside the library, and would then perform his \\''Robotic\\'' routine to the music - all free of charge I might add.\r\nCertainly a local \\''character\\''.
\r\n\r\nI believe Mo was the brother of "Kevin Marlowe" no mistake there. Kevin worked in Hotpoint for a while. I cant remember his brothers first name.
\r\n\r\nMo\\''s first name is Maurice.'),

(11109, 'Sr Martin was from Barbados, there was Sr Aideen, and also Sr Imelda who had a great singing voice.'),

(11110, 'This photo from Craig\\''s OLLE photo/postcard archive is of \\''Ferrari\\''s performing birds\\''. A local character from the early 20th century, Mr Giciano Ferrari was born in Italy, and came to Llandudno by way of Brighton. Apparently, the show was at it\\''s best when the birds went on strike, and they would accompany Ferrari\\''s dance of rage with screeches of derision from the braches of the nearby trees. He would launch a cockatoo from the table, and it would fly away and circle the Grand Hotel before returning. Ferrari died in 1923.

(11111, 'The town band\\''s first bandstand shown on the promenade in the right of this photo was known as \\''The Juggernaught\\''. It had wheels and was pulled noisily along the prom by a team of horses. The band could then play wherever it was required.

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\r\nDear All,\r\n \r\nJust come across this very interesting Llandudno Local website.\r\n \r\nI am doing some research on my late father who was part of the Waldini Gypsy Orchestra who played in Happy Valley in the 50\\''s. - I\\''m sure some of your members may know this?\r\n \r\nWhilst I have managed to gather a number of photographs and programmes, what I would most like to get hold of would be any moving images/films - I can\\''t believe that there isn\\''t somebody out there in the world who didn\\''t take some film either for official or personal use - but so far I have drawn a blank on this.\r\n \r\nAny help or advice would be much appreciated.\r\n \r\nLook forward to hearing from you.\r\n \r\nMike Dolman
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(6076, 'The night life i was referring to is the "partying" type which can  be a  real nuisance when it turns into large groups of binge drinkers rampaging around.  It can make some town centres into no-go areas. Not nice for other members of the public whether they are local or on holiday'),

(11113, 'Sr Michael has changed her name back to sr Ellen Breen to protect her self so no one could prosecute her for cauliflower ears that she caused all them EARS ago :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:'),

(11114, 'Trojan the man in the grey suit and hat with paper under arm looks very familiar  :wink: all thats missing is an ice cream :lol:  :lol:'),

(6078, 'To look at both sides of the argument, I would like to share something I just stumbled upon on the House of Commons website.\r\n\r\n
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Written Evidence from Peter and Carol Roberts\r\n\r\nTHE SO CALLED "RHYL" FLATS OFFSHORE WIND FARM OBJECTION \r\n\r\nThe reason why we are writing is to make this representation is because of a misrepresentations that gives the impression that "Rhyl Flats" Offshore Wind Farm project is off North Wales Coastal Town of Rhyl which is 20 miles east of Llandudno, Rhos-onSea and Colwyn Bay where we live. In fact these turbines shown on N.power map now shows these 30 x 500ft high offshore wind turbines on the marine area called "Constable Bank" which is located in front of the Bay of Colwyn directly in front of where we live some distance from the marine area called "Rhyl Flats".\r\n\r\nEither the location has moved since the first application in 2000 by Celtic Offshore Wind Limited (COWL) or the proposed site given the name "Rhyl Flats" to mislead the general public and the DTI !\r\n\r\nCOWL claim in their Environmental Impact Audit (EIA) that there will be no impact on tourism and that the industrialised landscape which will result from their endeavours will attract tourists. This is a misleading statement as hundreds and thousands of tourists visit our year each year for its beauty\r\n\r\nThe North Wales Coastline has already 30 x 300ft high offshore wind turbines call "North Hoyle" located off the coast of Prestatyn, some 5miles off Prestatyn Town and are 14 miles off our heritage coastline of Llandudno, Rhos-on-Sea and Colwyn Bay and they currently intrude upon our bay on clear days, worse still the proposed above development in its moved position at "Constable Bank" will have turbines 50% higher (500 feet and higher than Blackpool Tower) than the North Hoyle and will be only 4.5 miles off the Colwyn Bay and Rhos-on-Sea shore line, this movement from "Rhyl Flats" to "Constable Bank" is totally unacceptable and we demand a public enquiry on this matter. The well-established residential areas of Rhos-on-Sea and Colwyn Bay and Tourists town of Llandudno will be adversely affected by this development—one (1) Blackpool Tower maybe acceptable, but certainly not thirty (30).\r\n\r\nThe risk assessment also covers sea life and to some extent bird life, however their assessment does not cover the visual and tourist impact in any great detail by Npower. Another disturbing thing in their risk assessment is their avoidance of any in depth analysis of the possible impact of massive and unprecedented engineering works on and around a natural marine sandbank, namely the "Constable Bank", this feature provides a natural wave break when the sea is stormy. It is part of our natural flood defences and the project will spoil our town and its breathtaking and unique sea and mountain setting.\r\n\r\nWe look forward in you re-examining of the COWL/Npower submission and its misrepresentation within and request you either cancel this granted permission or relocate not to spoil our beautiful landscape.\r\n\r\nGWYNT Y MOR OFFSHORE WIND FARM OBJECTION \r\n\r\nThe claim by N.power that there will be no impact on tourism and that the "industrialised landscape" which will result from their endeavours will attract tourists. This is a misleading statement as hundreds and thousands of our visitors visit this beautiful area every year.\r\n\r\nThe North Wales coastline in question is the largest tourist area and Llandudno in particular is unique among the Victorian seaside resorts. It has survived largely intact because Mostyn Estates has been able to protect the original vision of the Victorian architects and engineers who have bequeathed us this wonderful town with its wide streets and elegant buildings. The Victorian crescent on the promenade has survived virtually in tact and unblemished by the usual planning disasters which have defiled other seaside towns. That is why people come here and accounts for 18% of all bed space sold in Wales are sold here. Tourism supports a prosperous local economy that ripples out into Wales. This tourist industry provides jobs and work for a multitude of small businesses, which exist to serve the local tourist industry, where as the 150 extra local jobs quoted in N.power fact sheets maybe only for the construction period, where as many thousands of tourist support a larger local workforce on a continues bases. The placing of these offshore wind factories in our bay will threaten and put at risk the local tourist industry.\r\n\r\nThe North Wales Coastline has already 30 x 300ft high offshore wind turbines call "North Hoyle" located off the coast of Prestatyn, some 5miles off Prestatyn Town and are 14 miles off our heritage coastline of Llandudno, Rhos-on-Sea and Colwyn Bay, also the proposed so called "Rhyl Flats" development now trying to re-located at "Constable Bank" (subjest to a separate letter) will have 30 turbines 50% higher (500 feet and higher than Blackpool Tower) only 4.5 miles offshore. Now N.Power proposes a further 200 wind turbines some 7 miles offshore called Gynt y Mor. The well-established residential areas of Rhos-on-Sea and Colwyn Bay and Tourists town of Llandudno will be adversely affected by this and other developments—Note: one (1) Blackpool Tower maybe acceptable, but not two hundred and thirty (230).\r\n\r\nThe risk assessment covers sea life and to some extent bird life, however their assessment does not cover the visual and tourist impact in any great detail by Npower.\r\n\r\nWe request you reject N.power submission and its misrepresentation within so as not to spoil our Beautiful North Wales landscape and our valuable Tourist Industry which provides job for so many.\r\n\r\n1 December 2005
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(3448, 'Sitting in Richards (now Seahorses) on Church walks last year and Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen came in looking for a table.  The lady who runs it appears in the Iceland adds on telly and played Cain Dingles Mum in Emerdale I am told.'),

(6085, 'ok i think people get the wrong idea when it comes to casinos. I went to Las Vegas with my family and all i can say is WOW!!!   You may think a casino isnt family friendly but you would be wrong. Inside the casino you have the casino floor for the adults of course, then moving away from that you have shops and restaurants and play areas for kids gaming areas where they can try out the latest game consoles, then there was an area where the kids could make there own sweets and chocolate etc plus there was a huge area in each casino where the children could be left while the parents went shopping etc the decoration was amazing, different in each area of the casino you went in and there wasnt a single bar in sight accept in the casino area itself where they brought the drinks to you only if you asked. Not to forget that the casino was a hotel with family rooms and plenty for the children to do in the hotel itself. If there was to be a casino it would only work if the designers that made the famous casinos in Vegas were involved and they could design it to what ever theme was wanted by the locals. Just a question to think about if its no to a casino that what else can be brought to the town to keep the younger generation there?\r\nSarah  :shock:'),

(6071, 'There was also a cinder path that led from the Oval  into Denness Place'),

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Sr Martin was from Barbados, there was Sr Aideen, and also Sr Imelda who had a great singing voice.
\r\n\r\nSr Martin has been teaching music in Liverpool, she has also often done work abroad for the convent still. She doesn`t seem to have aged at all, and still had that massive smile and rosey cheeks. Sr Imelda, ah yes, unmistakable singing voice. Something all the nuns seem to possess, due to the the amount of practice.'),

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I was a young attendee to Sunday school at a church/chapel on Mowbray Road, run by Mr Parks. Throughout the Summer we spent many fun times at the UBM on North Shore. During my days at Boys Brigade I attended St Johns on Mostyn Street. Holy Trinity Church has also been a favourite of mine around Christmas time.
\r\n\r\nI wonder if the Chapel on Mowbray Road was the Evangelical Church pastored by Horace Jones - a great man of God in the town. When he was in senior years I seem to remember he appeared in one of the Songs of Praise broadcasts from Llandudno (recorded at St Tudno\\''s on the Orme). Does anyone remember him?'),

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Some more info on Zac Zac Brierly I found whilst looking through the archives in connection with the Odeon...\r\n\r\nMr. Zach Brierley and family who were established in Llandudno as proprietors of Creams Tours (omnibus). They acquired a piece of land in Gloddaeth Street, once a vineyard belonging to Mr Jackson and built the huge edifice known as Winter Gardens.
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2011, 04:11:10 PM »
(13730, '
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Aproximately 1000 competitors and thousands of spectators are expected to converge on the town next summer for the Llandudno/Conwy Triathlon.\r\n\r\nJuly 6th has been earmarked, but the organisers need the backing of North Wales Police, the Council Highways Dept and local sporting organisations before the event can go ahead. Organisers are hoping to get the help of local sports clubs and organisations in running the event, who would in turn make donations to them.\r\n\r\nThe 10k run would be along the promenade, the 40k bicycle ride around the Great Orme\\''s Marine Drive, and the 1500m swim would be in Llandudno Bay.
\r\nThis story was front page in the Weekly News last week, despite the fact that it is little more than a vague idea at the moment! Surely, an organiser would have spoken to the relevant organisations to see it if was viable first before announcing it? I spoke to someone in the local Triathlon community who said that attracting 1000 competitors was highly unlikely for an event of this nature. By comparison, the well established Llanrwst Triathlon attracted 171 competitors last week.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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In 1975 I was working for Clwyd Social Services Department in their Colwyn Bay office. After a couple of years battling with them over their impossible working conditions and their appaling standards of care, I resigned.\r\n\r\nI then played full time for a couple of years with Glyn Dryhurst\\''s Rhythm Machine. When that died a natural death I tried to get a job again in my professional capacity but found I was blacklisted by Clwyd and Gwynedd as a trouble maker - the authorities don\\''t like people who speak out against mismanagement and malpractice but my stand was absolutely relevant. (bear in mind the later Waterhouse Public Inquiry into North Wales child abuse). \r\n\r\nIn the end, to get back into the kind of work I had qualified for and which I was commited to, I had to move to Norfolk, breaking up a lovely relationship to do so. :(
\r\n\r\nThats so sad micox, sometimes the place can be nice but everything else not. Good luck for the future and I hope you are making a good life for yourself in Norfolk.'),
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Hi, I think the elephant machine was outside the amusement arcade opposite Woolworths. The boxes were pink and white striped. I can\\''t actually remember what was in the boxes though!
\r\n\r\nYeah the Royal Arcade, I used to love that little Elephant.'),
(2155, 'Very nice collage there craig'),
(2158, 'Hi Micox,\r\nAny idea of the date of that entry in the journal ?'),
(2159, 'The extract says my Aunt Nell was about five years old when in the house. Nell was born 1905. But my Mam (Madge) was born in 1910 and in Jones\\'' Yard, Back Madoc Street so it must have been around 1911.\r\n\r\nMike.'),
(6000, 'HI, there is a cafe there, near the carpark its been there for donkeys years, and as for a pub the Sandringham always seems to be busy,however the beach a nd sandhills were brill when we were kids but absolutely ruined now.'),
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HI, there is a cafe there, near the carpark its been there for donkeys years, and as for a pub the Sandringham always seems to be busy,however the beach a nd sandhills were brill when we were kids but absolutely ruined now.
\r\n\r\nTheres plenty of green spaces between the road and the promenade walk front on West Shore, a nice little cafe would look the part near the childrens play area. Whys everything need to be out the way all the time. Anything which attracts families or small children is always an inconvenience to this town, look at the paddling pool on north shore for example, you couldnt get any further away from where all the centre attractions are, explain the logic in that. A little cafe/shop would be ideally located closer to the childrens park and yachting pond. Sandringham Pub? never heard of it Northwalescpl, lived in Llandudno for 19 years, I doubt many other people have heard of it either. I can quite imagine sitting back relaxing with a nice pint as the sun sets now :)'),
(2162, 'Last March. I\\''ll be back again before Summer, hopefully for a few days.'),
(2165, 'Hi Mike,\r\nit might be worth you trying the census for those years then, you may be able to find out a little more info from that.'),
(2166, 'Apparently, the tunnels run from near the War Memorial and go under the Grand and Empire Hotels and beyond. I think the tours were done by G.O.E.S from what I could find out, but the tunnels are not open to the public. Maybe they still do the odd private party tour though, worth a try if anyones interested ?'),
(2168, 'Yes again it sounds like the Ty Gwyn Mines to me which is by the pier entrance. Again as I previously mentioned, would love a tour, but I approach half these groups and receive no response. Already contacted the GOES society regarding tours for our group, so did try folks, but got nowhere. I have had the opportunity to go on this tour when I was in Boys Brigade some 8 years ago.'),
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Occasionally old pennies would accidentally slip through peoples hands when using the machines and drop onto the girders below, young children would climb along and collect them, some would fall to the shore floor, and when the tide goes out the pennies shone up like gold. One year a local lad who was collecting pennies from underneath the pier fell to the ground and was tragically killed.
\r\n\r\nI was one of those who suplemented his pocket money by waiting for the tide to go out to search the rock pools for dropped coins. Neap tides were best! Eventually scaling the round, but barnacle encrusted, cross struts below the wooden slatted portion of the pier to find flat RSJs littered with old fartings, happennies, pennies, octagonal thripenny bits, etc. \r\nWhat put an end to this source of income, in circa 1960, was the collapse one winter\\''s night, following an overnight storm, of the (granite?) blocks just where the pier became wooden slats; the clay infill behind them spread itself over a large portion of this part of the rocky beach - not only burying the coins, but ruining this part of the beach for years. \r\n\r\nAnother \\''supplement to the pocket money\\'' during the summer months was to go to Happy Valley, Aberdeen Hill, etc and collect and return empty \\''pop\\'' bottles (can\\''t remember the brand - but yellow labelled) left by holiday makers; and return them to the sales place immediately behind the open air stage - and get the thripence (3d) deposit back. \r\n(Perhaps that\\''s what we need today to cut down on the rubbish/recycling issue; but with a higher relative deposit!!) \r\n\r\nAnother way to get money was to wait until about 5-00pm - when the holidaymakers had to return to their hotels for \\''high tea\\'', and offer to take their Happy Valley deckchairs back for them - and get the deposit they had paid for them. It was surprising the number of people that didn\\''t bother, or worry, about getting their deposit back (Can\\''t remember how much it was as I type). \r\n\r\nAhhh! but those were halcyon days from circa. 1957 to \\''63 - until the realities of the beckoning semi-adult life took me away.'),
(2171, 'Hello everyone, we are looking for old class/school group photos, if you are able to scan these in high res and email them to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login with details of names, school, year etc.'),
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  Btw, the bus boarder is actually designed so that the bus blocks the traffic whilst stopping at one  \r\nSC
\r\nSo you can begin to understand why the problem compounds itself outside Glynns.\r\n\r\nThe traffic queues up behind the bus, and often onto the pedestrian crossing, thus rendering it impossible for traffic travelling down Mostyn Avenue from Llandudno to see pedestrians walking over the zebra crossing from the Co-op especially when the waiting bus is also blocking their view.\r\n\r\nI really cannot understand what made Conwy Council decide to build a new Pelican Crossing outside the Links Hotel covering two separate carriageways before building one first in C-y-D.'),
(10791, 'Haha..\r\nGlad im not the only one that it confuses!\r\nThey should paint on the road 2 specify which lane 2 take!'),
(10792, 'There are also Hobsons that lived in Dolydd,\r\nI think they were the 2nd residents in Dolydd, they moved down from the Orme.\r\nHer name was Mary i cant remember her husbands name, but i know he was  a builder, they had 2 sons called Robert n George and  2 daughters not sure of their names, i  think Robert (Bob) is about 60 now.'),
(13080, 'The times I have are \r\nWednesday 20.30 - 21.30 \r\nThursday    19.30 - 21.30\r\nFriday        20.30 - 21.30 all public swimming'),
(13079, 'Is there no 2 hour men\\''s only session?'),
(13081, 'West Shore what can you really say,busy sunday lots of people enjoying the sun .Walking round the yatching pond was an eye opener,crap from the swans was disgusting, the grass growing all around the pond ,mess. oh the white rabbit statue is a joke,broken slabs,full of sand and its July.The grass behind the statue is now level with the top of the wall because the sand has been aloud to build up so much,when they built the sea defences so that the water would run up they forgot the sand would to.Con gogarth councillors you have a lot to do.'),
(10794, 'I\\''m sure I am wrong[I blame 20+ years of driving in London] but I would stay in the left hand lane.'),
(2327, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nc1960 - Dyffryn Road School, Llandudno\r\n\r\nTO SHARE MEMORIES OF THIS PHOTO OR YOUR OLD SCHOOL CLICK THE FOLLOWING WEB LINK:\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=176&sid=94082fbe6a623e4263848da035119931'),
(2328, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nc1966 - Stella Maris School, Llandudno\r\n \r\n\r\nFRONT ROW\r\nU/N - U/N - MARGARET FARREL - MARY BIRD - U/N - U/N - U/N \r\n\r\nSECOND ROW\r\nCARL WATSON? - U/N - TERESA TALENT - JOAN QUIGLEY - PAULINE (now Mrs Tony Flint of Estate Agency) - CAROLE CHAPMAN? - IAN TURNER \r\n\r\nTHIRD ROW\r\nBRIAN HOGAN? - U/N - LAWRENCE (LARRY) KEMP - DAVID LYON - Boy from Kings Road (TOMMY)? - U/N - U/N - U/N\r\n\r\nFOURTH ROW\r\nSurname WEDGE? - ROBERT JONES - BILLY TWOMEY? - PAUL ROBERTS (BEECH HOMES) - RONNIE JONES (SUMMMIT) - TOMMY JONES - ANDY GALSTON\r\n\r\n\r\nTO SHARE MEMORIES OF THIS PHOTO OR YOUR OLD SCHOOL CLICK THE FOLLOWING WEB LINK:\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=176&sid=94082fbe6a623e4263848da035119931'),
(2214, 'The ones with the castellated front between the Pier entrance and the Grand Hotel are an obvious choice for being reopened. If you\\''re on the prom and needing a toilet, you either have to make your way into town or walk up into Happy Valley at the moment\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2215, 'I think the present informal system works pretty well and should be left as it is. Ideas that have been mooted about removing all of the promenade gardens to install a cycle track are just plain ridiculous, in my view.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(10842, 'Tuh! :lol: ...i\\''ve long made my donation, almost 2 years voluntary hard work, and hundreds if not thousands spent on ephemera/photos which have been part of many talking points in the forum, not to mention many discretionary administration costs/charges unaccounted for in the expenses.  :roll:\r\n\r\nIf only my wage as Editor of the Llandudno Local reflected that by comparison of say the Editor of the Weekly News or Pioneer, i\\''m sure my generosity would extend much further then!  :D'),
(2177, 'POST BY WAFFAGOLF\r\n\r\nI\\''m opposed to the windfarm if for no other reason, because when I attended the public exhibition at the Imperial Hotel some time ago, it was abundantly evident that all was not as it was being portrayed. \r\n\r\nI noticed that in the whole exhibition there was not one photograph taken from the pier end of the promenade showing how the bay would look with all the wind turbines in place. All the pictures were taken from the Little Orme end of the prom with superimposed turbines on them, making it look like there would be a huge, clear gap between the end of the Great Orme and the first turbine. \r\n\r\nHad the developers done the same with photographs taken from the Great Orme end, whilst standing near the pier you would see no gap at all, with turbines covering the length of the bay from the Great to the Little Orme. This would look like the bay had been completely fenced in with turbines. \r\n\r\nThe mere fact that the developers had not shown pictures at this angle makes me think that something untoward is going on. If the public were shown pictures taken from the Great Orme end of the prom showing superimposed images of what the turbines would look like in situ, I suggest the whole town, the whole area, would be up in arms and against the project. \r\n\r\nThe phrase \\''Pulling the wool over our eyes\\'' springs to mind.'),
(10790, 'Sailing into the website is Barbra Striesand singing "As If We Never Said Goodbye".'),
(2180, 'Hello Kate.\r\n\r\nThe census for 1911 hasn\\''t been published yet - has to be 100 years before they\\''re out. I\\''ve seen the 1901 census.\r\n\r\nHeddwch.\r\n\r\nMike.'),
(2182, ':lol: new to the historical stuff, so forgive my faux pas  :oops: \r\n\r\nI shall do a little delving for you Mike and see what i can come up with.'),
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Any memories from Halloween or the other legalised begging we used to do like carol singing.\r\n\r\nEvery halloween was the same, carve out a turnip all afternoon, candle in it, string to carry it and about 15 of us up to Bryn Gosel using the turnip ash as our face make-up. "Penny for the halloween, keep the witches from your dreams" you had to get there early unless your heard the dreaded, "we\\''ve already given tonight"! If you were lucky enough to get any money, before the door was closed you could hear "how much did we get" end of the night shared between all of us and a trip to the chippy if we had enough.\r\n\r\nNever much into to carol singing as I couldnt sing and didnt know many carols. Knock on the door "we three kings from orient are............We wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year........Noel, noel" that was about it one line of every song
\r\n\r\nMy dad used to have the dug out swede/turnip waiting for us when we got home from school, we would do the Links estate where we lived, then down the cinder path to craig y don, Stand outside the County Bar long enough and someone would take you in and around the drunks, we were minted. Frank Tyldesley`s house, craig y don was good for money, then it was a trip to Llandudlas graveyard, maybe the mountains like behind Lady Forresters. Later we would sell the lanterns to Zoe Lewis`s mum for her midnight halloween party. She was always waiting with money aside for them. Nice end to our night, and a good look to her party.'),
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Apparently, the tunnels run from near the War Memorial and go under the Grand and Empire Hotels and beyond.
\r\n\r\nNext time you\\''re by the pier entrance, take a look to the right-hand side of where the vintage bus layby is (heading towards the Grand Hotel). There\\''s a piece of grass with a padlocked manhole cover. That\\''s the way down into the mines.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2187, 'A little bit of history for you, so i\\''m told, I was one of the youngest to ever go down the mines with GOES this would have been back in... 1999 I think. Another bit of history, I would show you the photos only they were placed in a time capsule underneath St Johns Church only to be unearthed again in 2050  :? \r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(13574, 'Mike Cox Wrote -\r\nAnyone remember Hughie Hughes the one time Headmaster of Dyffryn  Road School. A fine wielder of a whippy bamboo cane, he seemed something of a polymath and heavily girded with religion. I remember too the assembly hymns with the piano accompaniment by Hughie - although not religious myself I can recall those tunes and most of the words with ease. And other rattlebags of music like Cherry Ripe, Where the Bee Sucks, Blow Blow Thou Winter Wind and Bach\\''s Jesu Light of Man\\''s Desiring which I often slip into when improvising, thanks to Hughie. I\\''d like to know something of his background and his fate. \r\n\r\nAnd a smashing bloke who was the school caretaker at one time and went by the name of "Sailor". He remained an occasional acquintance long after I\\''d left school. \r\n\r\nThe other teachers I vaguely remember are Miss Aubrey (nice) and Ma Williams (dreaded).\r\n_________________\r\nmicox'),
(2189, 'According to legend along the Llanrhos Road, near to Llandudno stands the remains of an old oak tree which is supposed to be the devil\\''s very own.\r\n\r\nAs the story goes....\r\nCadwalader Williams from Glan Conwy was a cobbler and on Saturdays he delivered his repaired shoes and collected payments. He often stopped off in Llanrhos to partake in a few jars in the local and have a bit of a chinwag.\r\n One one particular Saturday, the elderly cobbler had, had one too many and as he walked home along the Llanrhos Road, instead of walking on the opposite side of the road to the tree as he normally did, he decided to approach the devil\\''s tree and started to berate and shout abuse at it. ( As you do when you\\''ve had a few too many  :) )\r\n SUDDENLY something hot and hairy landed on his shoulders and grabbed Cadwalader tightly around his neck, he tried to dislodge whatever it was but it hung on and gasping, the cobbler staggered off to find help.\r\nHe saw noone for many miles and after a horrific stumbling walk , managed to reach a friends house in Towyn.\r\n Nearly asphixiated by the grip of the creature on his back, Cadwalader was almost dead when the door to his friends house was thrown open, and miraculously the strange creature disappeared as fast as it had appeared. His friend did not see the monster - but he did witness what looked like scorch marks on the old cobblers throat.....'),
(2190, 'Think youv\\''e been reading the same book as me !!!!!! Is the tree still there?'),
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Drank in there on many occasion. \\''Corner for a toilet\\'' - that\\''s funny! I remember the carpet was always kind of \\''sticky\\'' underfoot. Was a biker myself for a good few years, until I ploughed into the Links roundabout back in \\''92. Remember the \\''Mod revival\\'' in the eighties? They started again the sixties tradition of \\''scooter rally\\''s\\'' to seaside towns, Llandudno being one of them. You never saw any scooters parked outside the Royal though  :twisted:  However I do remember Ronny Wynne buzzing up and down Gloddaeth street, on his Lambretta many a time, trying to agrivate the bikers drinking outside.
\r\n\r\nGod I remember that crash, you were in a bit of a mess if I remember right. Ronnie wynnes Lambretta, was green with a chicago skyline mural on the panels, my brother bought it of him, rear axle was snapped, he ended up selling it on, where it then ended up as a drinks cabinet  embedded in a wall. Never been able to afford a proper scooter again, other things always ended up a bigger priority, had a couple of mopeds but intend to get a scooter before I am 50, so still got years on my side...lol Royal Oak was always heaving in the summer I remember, loads of bikers sitting outside.
\r\n\r\nRonny \\''one pot\\'' Wynne have not heard that name for a while, I remember Day Lau having some nice chopper scooters. \r\nRoyal Oak was the first pub that I could get in, couldnt get served but could sit and drink in there if somebody bought me a pint, it was always good if you could sneak in there on a hockey weekend.
Hi Wesh, can you just explain the Ronny "one pot" Wynne, I,m sure you know he´s my cousin but I never heard that beofre and I,m very curious :lol:  Karen'),
(2192, 'Ah now that i don\\''t know, not sure exactly whereabouts it is you see. It states Llanrhos Road, but would that be the Conway Road B5115 ? And I take it the church that is also supposed to be near by would be St Hillary\\''s but it states Llanrhos Church.\r\n\r\nIf you\\''re reading the Rumours & Oddities of North Wales, Rosa then yes ! I raided the library today to try and get some more legends/tales for Llandudno its self rather than just the surrounding areas.'),
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Bonnie night was the best, kids stinking in school for the next couple of days of smoke.\r\nKings road and the Estate lot where nightmares for wrecking your bonny, I remember one year in Hosy road, Bommer, Jono and I think Nettle were going to sleep in the bonfire so nobody would burn it down.\r\n\r\nPut your spuds in the bottom and get them to walk home with at the end of the night when they were all cooked.\r\nWe always did the penny for the guy, with usually Irish dressed up and dragged to somebodies doorstep.
\r\n\r\nLOL I remember Bommer, doubt if I would recognise him any more.'),
(2195, 'There was a story about a devils tree,in the field next to the old grave yard in llanrhos i wonder if this is the same one your talking of it is near the old bridge in the field and it is spooky there after dark.'),
(2198, 'Pssssttttt....\r\n\r\nNot the kind of thing I buy, but I doubt anyone has spotted this \\''buy it now\\'' record hidden away in the \\''eBay shops\\'' section. The only one on eBay in fact, a certain rarity.\r\n\r\nLINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login),
(2197, 'SNIPPET\r\n\r\nAnne Ziegler and Webster Booth\r\n\r\n(Leslie) Webster Booth was born in Handsworth, Birmingham on 21 January 1902 and Anne Ziegler (Irené Eastwood) was born in Liverpool eight-and-a-half years later on 22 June 1910. They met during the filming of \\''Faust\\'' at the end of 1934 and became the most successful British singing duettists of their era.\r\n\r\nIn 1934 Webster Booth was an established singer, possessing one of the finest English tenor voices of the twentieth century. \r\n\r\nIrené Eastwood changed her name to Anne Ziegler when she made her West End stage debut in 1934. She was chosen to play Marguerite in \\''Faust\\'' from three hundred other hopeful sopranos. Webster Booth was to play opposite her as Faust. They fell in love but could only marry four years later after Webster\\''s divorce from his second wife, Paddy Prior. \r\n\r\nAfter their marriage Anne and Webster began singing duets and made a number of records. George Black persuaded them to go on the Variety Circuit, although Webster still found time to continue his solo career as a recording artiste and as one of the foremost oratorio tenors of his day. \r\n\r\nThey were at the height of their success during the war, appearing in West End musicals and films. In 1948 they did a major tour of Australia and New Zealand. \r\n\r\nIn the mid-fifties they went on a concert tour of South Africa and were promised further work if they ever decided to settle there. They decided to do so and remained in South Africa for twenty-two years. Not only did they appear in musicals and straight plays, make recordings and films, and broadcast on the South African Broadcasting Corporation, but they also ran a flourishing studio of \\''singing and stage-craft\\'' in Johannesburg, and turned their hands to directing musicals for amateur groups. \r\n\r\nIn 1967 they \\''retired\\'' to Knysna on the Cape Garden Route, where they were kept busy teaching, producing local shows and running the Knysna and District Choral Society. They moved to Somerset West, near Cape Town in 1974. Once again Webster took on the local choral society and directed (and sang in) \\''The Crucifixion\\'' and \\''The Messiah\\'', but at the end of 1975 they gave their \\''farewell concert\\''. \r\n\r\n\r\nEarly in 1978 they returned home and settled in a bungalow in Penrhyn Bay. They knew Wales well from their days in Variety, and they had spent holidays in Llandudno. Anne\\''s grandfather, an architect had designed one of the great Llandudno hotels near the pier. On one of their holidays the brakes of Webster\\''s Talbot car failed on the way down the steep old road from the Great Orme, and it was only a miracle that saved them from careering to their death or injuring bystanders! \r\n\r\nAn article about them appeared in the \\''Sunday Times\\'' magazine and they were flooded with letters from admiring fans, and offers to appear on TV, radio and stage poured in. For several years they were busier than ever, travelling all over the UK to give talks and concerts. They also sang weekly in Llandudno during the summer season. \r\n\r\nSadly Webster\\''s health began to fail and they gave their last concert together in Bridlington in 1983. The following year Webster died aged 82. \r\n\r\nAnne continued to live in the bungalow at Penrhyn Bay, and gave talks to groups on the North Wales coast, entitled \\''Memories of Anne Ziegler and Webster Booth\\''. Her friend, Jean Buckley, a fan since the age of thirteen, also lived in Penrhyn Bay and worked to raise enough money to institute the Webster Booth/Anne Ziegler awards at the Royal Northern College of Music. A number of prominent singers won one or other of these awards, including Lee Bissett, one of the contestants in this year\\''s Cardiff Singer of the World competition. \r\n\r\nAfter a bad fall and a spell in hospital, Anne died at the age of 93 in October 2003."'),
(2199, 'I remember when I was in Lloyd Street Primary School in class 1, there was always this old tale that the Devil lived just down the side of the building along this narrow passage, so we never went down there lol. :D\r\n\r\nThats my little story, sorry it isnt very exciting folks lol :)\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2200, 'The "Snippet" on Anne and Webster was originally  written by me for the North West Wales BBC site. Two recent books on Anne and Webster are available at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nSweethearts of Song: A Personal Memoir of Anne Ziegler and Webster Booth by Jean Collen, tells of their lives and sparkling career in the UK as Britain\\''s most popular duettists, the 22 years they spent  in South Africa, and their last years spent in Penrhyn Bay from 1978 until Webster\\''s death in 1984 and Anne\\''s in 2003.\r\n\r\nDo You Remember Anne Ziegler and Webster Booth? by Pamela Davies and Jean Collen, Pamela recalls how she was a teenage fan of the couple during the war. She began corresponding with Anne in 1978 and, after Webster\\''s death, she and her husband Walter became her friends. This book also includes The Body of Work of Anne Ziegler and Webster Booth by Jean Collen. \r\n\r\nRegards, Duettists  :D'),
(2201, 'The council is asking users of all its public toilets to let it know what they think of the facilities. Conwy county council will then decide which of its 58 public conveniences will be kept and which will be refurbished.\r\n\r\nJoin in the DEBATE here, what do you think of the towns loo services?'),
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Hi, does anyone remember Terry Bowen?His dad years ago had the fishing tackle place on the pier. Also Davy Lane, have\\''nt heard of them in years. Davy had a brother Joey who died.
\r\n\r\nMy cousin dave is doing fine. Lives in craig y don, see him now and again.'),
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The ones with the castellated front between the Pier entrance and the Grand Hotel are an obvious choice for being reopened. If you\\''re on the prom and needing a toilet, you either have to make your way into town and walk up into Happy Valley at the moment\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nNot used the back town hall ones for ages, but they seem to have had a make over, would never have a number two there though.....lol Caught short one day, and went into Wetherspoons, I was shocked, so posh....lol'),
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If it wasnt for me leaving from Llandudno, we might not be reading this forum, or would I be questioning whether Llandudno Enthusiasts existed today? I left Llandudno back on the 3rd November 2003 at around 6:00 p.m. where I ended up making what I now call the biggest mistake of my life. I fell for my x-girlfriend who I gave up my life to be with here in Wigan. January 2006 we split up and I moved into a flat here living on my own. However my love for Llandudno only grew stronger the more I was away from it. In 2004 I took up the hobby of Deltiology (postcard collecting) and began collecting old picture postcards of Llandudno, there was ad put in the paper directing to my website which was a small online archive of cards back then, that then went on to become Llandudno Enthusiasts as we know it today. Later in 2006 I found my the new love of my life Sarah, who you will know as forum member sezybaby. Me and Sarah are hoping to be moving back on a more permanent basis sometime during 2007. I will then be able to get more actively involved in the community projects I have plans for with OLLE.
\r\n\r\nYou and sezybaby....WOW I am glad I asked the question now......lol I wonder if you are the only online couple in here. Good tale though, glad it had a nice ending, well not quite an ending, more of a blossoming tale.....lol'),
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It was a super, revealing trip and I think everyone who attended would want to thank Craig for his continuous effort in organising the event.\r\n\r\nNice camera too Craig. Lovely shots with a particular warmth to the images.\r\n\r\nIf it is possible to arrange a subsequent trip, I would urge everyone to go along and have a look, it is quite amazing just how much of this fine theatre remains preserved as if in a time capsule.
\r\n\r\nThanks Jon,\r\n\r\nThere was some last-minute pressure on me from the organising party to get everyone together in the end despite my early booking for 10 members several months earlier, so apologies on my last-minute pressure to re-organise everything, not our fault though as we did give several months notice originally. John Lawson-Reay and his wife were very helpful as soon as they had the details, they guaranteed the places we needed, so thanks also to them. Unfortunately some of our members had to drop out last minute with the short-notice, but.. there will be another opportunity next year. I\\''ve some photos uploaded for those members who missed out and our friends across the waters who would just as much love this virtual insight that I have prepared.\r\n\r\nLINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nIf anyone has anything they\\''d like to share on the Grand Theatre, please do, but not just here at Llandudno Enthusiasts, the local Historical Society are taking audio recordings and would also be particularly interested in hearing from you.
\r\n\r\nNice pics craig i notice the grid is intact did you get to walk it  ive walked on many but that one used to scare me the wood used to move under your feet.\r\nAre there many of the flying lines still there.'),
(7858, 'Over here in the East (to your right if you\\''re looking at the Isle of Man) where the Siberian blasts come straight off the German Ocean, the town of Gorleston has a promenade as long as Llandudno but about half Llandudno\\''s width. The Gorleston prom also has tarmac paths running up and down grassed cliffs at the the town side and a rigid steel fence on the side overlooking the beach.\r\n\r\nAlong this prom walkers and bikers joyfully mingle ad lib, using their common sense where they ride and walk - no-one complains, not cyclist nor pedestrian, and there are just as many elderly and disabled people here as there are there.\r\n\r\nSo why the difference? Is it a Llandudno-Welsh peculiarity? Is it a foible naturally inherent in those who use Llandudno as a suburb of Liverpool and Manchester?\r\n\r\nWhy on earth go to the expense of a separate cycle path - it will only cut down on the money available for councillors\\'' expenses!\r\n\r\n :twisted:'),
(2221, 'Hi to all,\r\n\r\nToilets !  Well, they’re a lot better than they used to be. Anyone who knew the ones near The Cottage Loaf before the refurbishment will know what I mean. Most though are still woefully lacking in facilities and hygiene. West shore springs to mind. It’s definitely a problem in the town. Who hasn’t walked into one of the sea front hotels and tried to act like a paying guest as they walk through reception just so that they could use the toilets. There used to be a Super Loo on Penrhyn bay opposite the golf course. It was brilliant and only cost 10p. It self cleaned after each visit and was very private. There should be more toilets available on the promenade. I expect the story from the council is always about costs and man power, but providing proper sanitation is fundamental in a seaside town. This is the twenty first century for goodness sake.'),
(2222, 'Hello everyone,\r\n\r\nIf you are in need of a toilet on the prom, there are toilets in the ammusement arcade at the start of the pier.\r\n\r\nLove, Pennymook'),
(2223, 'Share your local factoids and snippets HERE!'),
(2224, '● In 1932, admission to the Pier would cost each adult 4d, two children would be charged as one paying adult. A pembulator and attendant 4d, bath chair, occupant and attendant 6d, bath chair and attendant only 4d, each person landing at Pier Head without a boat ticket, 6d. Bicycles to and from steamers, 3d.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2225, '● As noted in one of the old Ward Lock Guide Books... \\''An "unofficial" attraction are the gulls, wonderfully tame and with inexhaustable appetites\\''.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2226, '● Marine Drive was completed in 1879 at the cost of £14,000, and was owned by a private company until 1897, when it was purchased by the Urban District Council, which in 1910 abolished the toll for pedestrians. So that to make it free to foot-passengers, the Council relinquished a sum equal to nearly a penny in the pound on the rates. At each end of Marine Drive is a toll-house, the distance between is 4 1/4 miles, the total circuit of the Ormes Head is nearly 6 miles.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2227, '● A short distance westward of Pigeons Cave is the Stewards Bench, a flat stone ledge covered at high water to the depth of about two feet. Tradition says that any steward of the Mostyn estates convicted of wronging a tenant was placed upon the ledge and was compelled to remain there during two tides.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2230, 'My OH and I often have a ride to Pensarn if and when we ever get out together, now THOSE toilets have to be inhaled to be believed! The smell of old urine is so strong that it makes your eyes water. Same in Porthmadog. They don\\''t actually usually LOOK that bad, but the pong is unbelievable ! :shock: \r\nThe ones by the pier have been shut down for ages, but they still stink, especially in hot waether.'),
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2011, 04:13:09 PM »
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Badmington: Andrew Spencer - Stella Maris, Loreto Middle School, Ysgol John Bright.\r\n\r\nAndrew hails from Conwy and was a good friend of mine at Llandudno\\''s Loreto Middle School. \\''Spenno\\'' became a Welsh international badmington player in 1984 and was the most successful player in the county, winning 41 caps. he also won 6 senior national titles, 2 singles, 3 men\\''s doubles and 1 mixed doubles. Andy spent time living and training in the London area so did not compete in many local tournaments.\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
\r\nI remember Andrew also represented Wales in the Commonwealth Games on one occasion.\r\n\r\nAndrew use to partner my younger brother Paul in doubles and I recall the pair once winning the Welsh Junior Doubles Title.\r\n\r\nThe duo were forever travelling down to South Wales in their youth training with the Welsh Junior Squad.'),
(2232, '● From one of Abel Heywood & Son\\''s Guide Books... \\''Llandudno has a low general death rate, and a low infant mortality, and the good health normally enjoyed here testifies to its sanitation and salubrity. It has a water supply so pure that it has been described as "one of the softest waters in the world".\\''\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2233, '● From one of Abel Heywood & Son\\''s Guide Books... \\''The shore of Llandudno Bay, so admirably adapted for sea bathing, ranks as Llandudno\\''s first attraction, and presents a most animated picture during the bathing hours. The water deepens so gradually that bathing may be pursued at all times of the tide; and when the sea is too rough on the beach of Llandudno bay, it is calm in Conway Bay, and vica versa\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
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Hi to all,\r\n\r\nToilets !  Well, they’re a lot better than they used to be. Anyone who knew the ones near The Cottage Loaf before the refurbishment will know what I mean. Most though are still woefully lacking in facilities and hygiene. West shore springs to mind. It’s definitely a problem in the town. Who hasn’t walked into one of the sea front hotels and tried to act like a paying guest as they walk through reception just so that they could use the toilets. There used to be a Super Loo on Penrhyn bay opposite the golf course. It was brilliant and only cost 10p. It self cleaned after each visit and was very private. There should be more toilets available on the promenade. I expect the story from the council is always about costs and man power, but providing proper sanitation is fundamental in a seaside town. This is the twenty first century for goodness sake.
\r\n\r\nHi Chris, i\\''ve got to say this one made me chuckle. Ahhhh yes them super loo\\''s I found myself stumble across one of them in Manchester for the first time a few months back, I went inside it like the tardis of Dr Who, and when I think about it now it still makes me chuckle. I went in, and I hadnt a clue how it worked, I didnt know if the loo was a wash basin or what, seriously I simply could not figure out how it worked, what to do, how to use it, anyway i\\''m going to stop there and say no more  :lol: \r\n\r\nInstruction manual anyone?  :roll: \r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2235, '● From one of the early Abel Heywood & Son\\''s Guide Books... \\''Recently stone "net sinkers" and meteorites have been found on the slopes of the Great Orme, the former being now in Rapollo House Museum, which has been enriched by a collection of Roman Antiques from the ancient Station at Caerhun\\''.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2236, '● From one of the early Abel Heywood & Son\\''s Guide Books... \\''Proceeding up the Happy Valley Road past the Grand Hotel, visitors will find the local authority has provided for their comfort a magnificent colonnade shelter which is 560 feet long and 14 feet deep. It is surmounted by a promenade deck, and will shelter thousands in case of necessity. \r\n\r\nCraig\\''s Comment... \\''Note the length of the colonnade at 560ft not far off notching up against the height of the Great Orme at 750ft (679ft by todays measurement) :? \r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2237, '● Llandudno\\''s first and oldest public toilets were built and opened in 1893, against a cliff known as Clawdd-y-gored. \r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\n● Apparently, two years later, town engineer E.P. Stephenson had to defend the provision of the public conveniences, telling the Incorporated Association of Municipal Engineers he hoped the prejudice "which has been so markedly shown will in time die away, and that it will be seen, as in other towns that such conveniences are not only a necessity but an advantage to the town."\r\n\r\nObviously not  :lol: cos they\\''ve been shutting down toilets ever since !!!\r\nAnd i shall make no puns about the toilets being next to the "Colon"-ade Rats  :lol:  sorry folks that slipped out !\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2238, 'Never let it be said my sense of humour is firmly in the gutter but...\r\n● Did you know that at the junction of Balfour Road and Queens Road there is a metal pole protruding from the pavement near the corner ?\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nManufacturers mark :\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n \r\nIt is the remaining half of a water outlet that was provided to sluice horse dung off the road in the 1900\\''s. Important stuff in them days  :lol:\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),
(2239, 'Oh yes we found it  :lol: \r\nI\\''ve started up a Blog to record any of the walks we do so that everyone can have a read if they would like to.\r\nFor the whole story, complete with random photos, check out :\r\n\r\nhttp://llandudnowalks.blogspot.com/'),
(2240, 'Hi everyone,\r\n We found it !!! If you want to read the whole story go to this thread :\r\n\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=337&sid=20ea954424c8253b9d180c36bb058d50'),
(2241, 'Voice your thoughts on the car parking issue in Llandudno here in the DISCUSSION LOBBY'),
(2242, 'I am all for seeing a market in our town, the celtic fair which any of you may remember was on Mostyn Champneys Retail park a few week back seemed to be a success, it was fairly busy with plenty of hustle and bustle, so in my eyes it works. As for location, there are plenty of car parks in town which would be perfectly suitable. Mostyn Champneys could be one, back of the Theatre or even the town centre car park behind Weatherspoons where a market was once traditionally held. I think though to use one of these parking slots would mean to give up the parking facility for one day of the week if it was held in a smaller parking plot, however Mostyn Champneys seems to have plenty of remaining space once the market is it situ. I would also like to remention a comment which I made on the pedestrianisation debate\r\n\r\n\\''Since the introduction of Parc Llandudno has came to be, the centre of town has shuffled further up Lower Mostyn Street (in my opinion that is). It is debatebly whether Upper Mostyn St has begun to suffer since this move, but I think Upper Mostyn St could be further benefitted by being pedestrianised and setting up some kind of market already suggested, this is quite a classy end of town and I think pedestrianising it could close the gap on this particularly long high street.\\''\r\n\r\nIt would be great to see the Victoria Centre use a level of its multi storey car parking during a quieter day of the week for a car boot event which is something you see in the major cities, this could be another great addition to the town.'),
(2243, 'Hi kate.\r\n  Excellent blog keep  up  the good work.'),
(2244, 'What did I tell ya folks, we have our very own detective Researcher Kate! No matter what it is, she\\''ll get down to the bottom of it, Go Kate Go, Go Kate Go! :D\r\n\r\nVery impressed with ya, settling into your new role well! Well done! (pat on the back)\r\n\r\nCraig  8)'),
(2245, 'hi, well has anyone tried the alternate cycle route they have decided on instead of the prom,- Maesdu Road, try using it when the hoards of Ysgol John Bright pupils are going to and from school - impossible.'),
(2246, 'Thanks guys i\\''m blushing here y\\''know, I would\\''ve used a blushing smilie but there ain\\''t one  :lol:'),
(2247, 'Bad enough trying to drive along Maesdu Road at those times, never mind using the cycle path  :shock:'),
(2248, 'Here is a good vid of lifeboat beein brought to shore in the 50s its after the bethesda slate piece also film of the old dodgem boats on the pier \r\nYouTube - LLANDUDNO, WALES BETHESDA, RNLI\r\n\r\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2utvj9b7ylk'),
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Another \\''supplement to the pocket money\\'' during the summer months was to go to Happy Valley, Aberdeen Hill, etc and collect and return empty \\''pop\\'' bottles (can\\''t remember the brand - but yellow labelled) left by holiday makers; and return them to the sales place immediately behind the open air stage - and get the thripence (3d) deposit back. (Perhaps that\\''s what we need today to cut down on the rubbish/recycling issue; but with a higher relative deposit!!)
\r\n\r\nThe yellow labelled bottle you refer to was in fact \\''Tizer\\''.\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2250, 'Sorry if i\\''m always the one whos controversial about these topics, but I was in fact \\''for\\'' the cycle route along the promenade. When cycle routes are mentioned they seem to be more focussed on the issue of \\''alternate transport\\'', where id rather look at the health benefits instead. I wouldnt particularly want to ride down Maesdu which the views are hardly embracing, and a cycle route along the promenade front would be complimenting the resort as a whole if anything. I dont see why the lines need to be painted down or even dig up the flower beds, it would be a fair compromise to permit cyclists to use the promenade during the winter months when it is quieter without the risk of being prosecuted, in all honesty i\\''ll cycle down there regardless of notices! With a little bit of common sense, riding down when its quieter one can enjoy a brisk ride back and forth between both ends, reaping the health benefits of cardiovascular excercise whilst breathing in the fresh sea breezes in relative safety.');
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(2251, 'There\\''s plenty of room for a cycle path without having to dig up flower beds. I\\''m amazed that there isn\\''t one already - What objections can there be? I often walk on the paths between Pensarn and Llandulas which are much narrower than Llandudno prom, and possibly more heavily populated due to caravan parks, cafe\\''s etc. I\\''ve never seen any problems with cyclists using  the designated cycle path which is slightly wider than a paving slab! On the face of it Denbighshire does seem to be far more pro-active on promoting cycling than Conwy .'),
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Here is a good vid of lifeboat beein brought to shore in the 50s its after the bethesda slate piece also film of the old dodgem boats on the pier \r\nYouTube - LLANDUDNO, WALES BETHESDA, RNLI\r\n\r\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2utvj9b7ylk
\r\n\r\nVery good - the seaside scenes at the beginning and end of the film are of Penmaenmawr.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2253, 'I have mixed feelings about cycle paths around here, I was forever on my bike at one time. But now I don`t even like my kids on their bikes, the road traffic has increased so much over the years, and on top of that, too many boy racers about.  so cycle paths, seem to me to be a good idea, except you are effectively creating another traffic lane to compete with. A few years ago, my active mother, got knocked over by a kid on their bike on John Brights path, she was taken to hospital, and needless to say, the bruising and damaged bones never healed as well for an older person. She went down hill after all that, was never the same getting about or doing things around the house. I really blame that accident for her decline of life. I think some cycle path areas are asking for this type of accident, ie, maes du road or the suggested prom idea.  However I would love to see more people riding safely on bikes around town. Not like the stupid cyclists who tear across shoppers as they come in and out of the asda shop entrance, and this is cyclists of all ages.  Just last week I saw a gang of 13-16yr old cyclists cut across the entrance and hit a lad. They stopped but the gang egged the cyclist to pick his bike up and leave the victim on the floor, while his mother struggled to help him.'),
(2254, 'Mmmm another touchy subject. My view is that these things are OK if the people concerned use them. On Colwyn Bay prom more people tend to ride on the prom than on the cycle track !'),
(2255, 'Chaos!'),
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Mmmm another touchy subject. My view is that these things are OK if the people concerned use them. On Colwyn Bay prom more people tend to ride on the prom than on the cycle track !
\r\n\r\nObviously there are different types of cycle tracks, but if a prom one would be anything like the maes du one, I always think to myself when you walk down that road, do you stay out of the track? most people dont, toddlers could wander across the line and in a path of a cycle, there is no clear divide to seperate other than common sense and a white line. Commonsense is always missing where accidents happen. I have ridden on the prom at great speed loads of times, but when people, or dogs are close by I give a wide berth and slow right down. Its a wide prom.'),
(2257, 'Since parc Llandudno has opened, town has been quieter, and I have always found it easy to park in town on the days, even the weekend when I have gone up in the car, but I mostly walk up town, I do sympathise with people who work, live or are staying in town. As years have gone by and there are more cars on the roads, the hotels etc need more parking spaces, the car park above boots has never been full the very few times I have used it, dont know if it ever gets full. The  two car parks off Gloddaeth Ave always seem empty and wasted. A big problem with parking in Llandudno is the massive Army of traffic wardens.'),
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Oh yes we found it  :lol: \r\nI\\''ve started up a Blog to record any of the walks we do so that everyone can have a read if they would like to.\r\nFor the whole story, complete with random photos, check out :\r\n\r\nhttp://llandudnowalks.blogspot.com/
\r\n\r\nWhat a fantastic read, I felt I was there with you, great research , excellent pics, and good company. I have heard of the mill, kiln etc, the donkey pit you spoke of, I think is what I knew as a kid as "Snakes pit" as we had cross country runs around it. I had a girlfriend who lived in "Rose Cottage" once, I remember walking her home in the dark up Fferm Bach Road to the first gate, it was blooming terrifying, I never knew there was so many animal noises made in the dark.....lol  The tower I had heard of but told it was well covered, great pic of it, This has definitely inspired me to take a wlk up there one day when I am free. Well Done.'),
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Y\\''know considering that Llandudno is a coastal town, I\\''ve always wondered if our town had a history of pirates/privateers,  ( not including the ones about today lol ) so far I\\''ve reached a big fat zero in trying to root something out. \r\nAnyone know ?
\r\n\r\nWell to quote the writings of an old Homeland Llandudno guide.\r\n\r\n"The Little Orme - Rhiwleden to give the promontory its local name, so called from its being a haunt of an old Pirate named Leden.  A footpath from the main road leads to the summit.  Rhiwleden has a remarkable cave with a natural "chimney". It is termed "The White Chapel cave", but as it can only be approached by a boat it is not well known.  It was through a pass in the Little Orme - probably the old road that runs beside the present highway - That the Romans came when they mined copper in the Great Orme. Two important discoveries of Roman coins have been found in this vicinity. \r\n\r\n     Close above Craigside Hotel is a large house called"Simdda Hir" When the main road opposite this was being widened in 1907 the spades of the workmen cut into a mass of corroded metal. it was dusk and some of the soil was carted away and tipped  to fill in Mostyn Broadway which was them being constructed. It later transpired that the metal represented hundreds of Roman coins.That evening 452 were colllected, and the following morning light revealed more, bringing the total to 550. Probably other coins are still embedded under the Broadway.\r\n\r\n   THis was the second hoard. Some years previously there came to light a red earthen ware jar, discovered in 1873 by a neighbouring farmer half a mile to the east. It contained 5,000 brass Roman coins, but the find was kept secret until the farmers death.\r\n\r\nThat is all the guide says about the Pirate, I suppose the Roman coins may have nothing at all to do with the pirate though really.'),
(14064, 'Whilst in Colwyn Bay at the weekend, I noticed this poster:\r\n\r\nYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\n\r\nIs it right that a council owned theatre should be allowing this person to put on a show. He\\''s been proven to be a complete fake:\r\n\r\nhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ewYKMQJCSxI\r\n\r\n...and he preys upon the most vulnerable people in society by claiming to speak to their dead relatives in order to make a few quid. What a lovely person.\r\n\r\nSC'),
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I don\\''t quite see why Mostyn Estates would be in favour of windfarms, though? They have no financial stake in the windfarm development and if the windfarm has any negative effect on tourism (as some would suggest), then the value of their Llandudno property holdings will suffer?\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nInteresting Snakecorp, after talking with a good friend of mine, we think we\\''ve hit the nail on the head. Perhaps they actually do have an interest in the windfarm development. I wonder how much they are levying on the boats which leave from their Mostyn Docks to build, service etc... Now that ones got your head ticking...  :idea:\r\n\r\nBefore we start going off topic, take this over to the WINDFARM thread...'),
(9160, 'I think Lord Colwyn lived in the first house on your right in the 20s/30s.\r\n\r\nM Noel Humphreys (nephew of G A Humphreys, Mostyn Agent) lived at Y Fron again on the right.  I think this was damaged by fire about 25 years ago and Noel lost a lot of his treasured books.  He died not long afterwards.  Members may recall he frequented Ball and Boyds a lot.  Tall, long mac, and a passing resemblence to Lord Longford. He was a long time UDC Councillor and was one-time Chairman of Caernarvonshire County Council.\r\n\r\nI have heard a knighted, ex Chief Exec of M&S lives there but no idea where.\r\n\r\nDavid (Dafydd) E Hughes the legendary and much missed bookseller and his wife also lived there until his untimely death.'),
(13862, 'No, the rule is if you have your trainers off, it`s you :D \r\nWhere`s my shirt :?:'),
(13866, 'The Stella Maris Sports Day was always good fun. Most of the \\''sports\\'' we participated in were never Olympic sports, though if they were it would be amusing to watch - the egg & spoon race, the sack race, and the running race with a coloured bean-bag on top of your head (you had to cross the finish line with the bean-bag still in place).'),
(13863, 'More flats! oh joy just what we need :? But there is a new Indian Take away.  Is it any good???'),
(13864, 'I have been reading some of this section for the first time and all I can say is God help your teachers!!!! You lot were horrible especially you Trojan.  :roll:'),
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I have been reading some of this section for the first time and all I can say is God help your teachers!!!! You lot were horrible especially you Trojan.  :roll:
\r\n\r\n :oops:  I\\''m a reformed character now Gerry.'),
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Another \\''supplement to the pocket money\\'' during the summer months was to go to Happy Valley, Aberdeen Hill, etc and collect and return empty \\''pop\\'' bottles (can\\''t remember the brand - but yellow labelled) left by holiday makers; and return them to the sales place immediately behind the open air stage - and get the thripence (3d) deposit back. (Perhaps that\\''s what we need today to cut down on the rubbish/recycling issue; but with a higher relative deposit!!)
\r\n\r\nThe yellow labelled bottle you refer to was in fact \\''Tizer\\''.\r\n\r\nCraig.
\r\n\r\nHmmm!  Not sure.  Tizer is, and always was, a red coloured drink; am sure the stuff I\\''m talking (sorry - writing!!) about was orange; in fact my recollection is of a fizzy orangeade.  It was distributed and collected from around town in wooden crates on the back of small slope sided \\''lorries\\''.  The depot, to the best of my recollection, was literally just over Maesdu Bridge to the left, when crossed from West Shore side, and the other side of a small area of grass, and backed on to a couple of rows of small terraced houses (called Railway Cottages?)'),
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Here are the Beatles Live Performances for 1963!\r\n\r\n12.08.1963 Odeon Cinema, Llandudno\r\n13.08.1963 Odeon Cinema, Llandudno \r\n14.08.1963 Odeon Cinema, Llandudno\r\n15.08.1963 Odeon Cinema, Llandudno\r\n16.08.1963 Odeon Cinema, Llandudno\r\n17.08.1963 Odeon Cinema, Llandudno\r\n\r\n\r\nCraig Ollerton,\r\nEditor of Llandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nYup! I wuz there!!\r\n3 times in fact.\r\nThe first time was on the Monday.  \\''Beatlemania\\'' had yet to become the phenomenon it became; but we locals were at the forefront of it.\r\nMy parents owned and ran \\''Mayfair\\'' at 11, Deganwy Avenue - \\''bout 200 yards away!  By the second night of their run it was already clear that they were being mobbed on leaving the Odeon\\''s back door (there were several at the rear in New Street).  Their car was pulled up on the slip way that was the \\''Scenery\\'' entrance for a quick getaway.  I was there each evening to witness; on one occassion touching Paul AND George!!\r\nBecause of the volume level of their performance one could hear the whole performance from the back of the Odeon.  On 2 other occassions I sneaked in through the unlocked \\''Emergenct Exits\\'' to see and hear them.\r\nHeady days with Llandudno at the van of things - which it really wasn\\''t known for!\r\nCan\\''t remember whether it was later that summer, or the following, that the Searchers did a one night gig at the Pier Pavillion on a Sunday evening.\r\nLlandudno rocked!!\r\n\r\nP.S.  My parents bought \\''Mayfair\\'' from Jess Yates in 1946.  Jess Yates was for many years the supposed father of Paula Yates - who went onto marry Bob Geldorf; then leave him for Michael Hutchinson; he dying by misadventure type suicide in his native Australia; she of drugs OD in London; Bob Geldorf has yet to change the world in Africa\\''s favour.  It later came out (after DNA tests?) that her natural father was in fact Hughie Green.\r\nI understand that subsequent owners of \\''Mayfair\\'' have had a (naff) blue plaque put up by the front door!!  (Talk about trying squeeze the last drop out of a lemon!!)'),
(2268, 'Was it \\''Corona\\''? I remember their glass bottles used to have a deposit on them.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2269, 'Where do I begin??\r\nI could go on and on!! (boring! boring!)\r\nSuffice to say that, as one who was born (in Oxford Street Nursing Home - yes, that\\''s what it was in 1946; opposite what was the JBGS \\''Tuck Shop\\'' - \\''til it was overtaken in popularity by Billy Mac\\''s by the Station) and bred there, there was, and still is, nowhere like it - or better in the world.\r\nI speak (sorry - write!) as one who has spent time living in North America, Middle East, Far East, including China; I just haven\\''t seen, or felt (a better description) a better place in \\''the whole wide world\\''.\r\nWhat more could a growing child and boy wish for - than to have 2 fine beaches and the Great Orme as a play ground; Snowdonia to go camping, trekking, and camping in!\r\n\r\nOf course - it took the leaving of Llandudno (in 1963) to actually realise this.  As a kid you just took it for granted; every kid had this - don\\''t they?\r\nNO They didn\\''t!\r\nAmongst the things I left Llandudno with was a signed (by my Mum and Dad) framed photo of North Shore Bay taken from the Gt. Orme (I\\''m sure everyone will know the one I\\''m writing about?)  It still hangs, to this day, on a wall light fitting in our lounge.\r\nEvery so often - perhaps every 2 years or so I feel an overwhelming desire to visit again.  Just to walk the streets, smell the air (or ozone?), kick some sand on the beach, visit my Grandparents and Uncles grave at St. Tudno\\''s, my parents in their niche at the Colwyn Bay Crem. other relatives in Llanrhos Cemetry - just to say to myself quietly "this is me; these are my roots - just a little boy from Llandudno who went out into the Big World and did OK".  It\\''s a sort of battery recharging thing, a re-affirmation of me, a cathartic thing.\r\nI\\''ve learned to recognise this feeling when it comes on; I don\\''t fight it; I just do something about it.  I\\''ve been known. at very short notice, to jump a \\''plane from wherever I\\''ve been in the world, just to make the pilgrimage.\r\nI love Llandudno, always have done; and am old enough to say - I always will.\r\n\r\nLlandudno also has a special place in my heart as being the place that I lost my (I\\''ll use a word that begins with the same letter - such as the Moderator might allow this post) virtue to a Llandudno girl called Annette Xxxxxx in the back seat of my Dad\\''s borrowed Hillman Hunter Super (bought from Red Garages, Lower Conway Street) at the Old Gun Site, West Shore (accessed by driving the \\''wrong way\\'' round the Marine Drive!)\r\n\r\nI could also answer the question - "Do I love Llandudno?" by answering - "Is the Pope Catholic?" and "Is Tony Blair a naive liar?"'),
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Was it \\''Corona\\''? I remember their glass bottles used to have a deposit on them.\r\n\r\nSC
\r\n\r\nHi SC\r\n\r\nYup \\''Corona\\'' was around in circa 1960, and yup there was a deposit on their bottles too, BUT, if my memory serves me correctly \\''Corona\\'' (in a variety of flavours) came in a larger bottle than the one I was trying to recall, and had a retained wire cantilevered ceramic stopper with orange coloured sort of \\''O\\'' ring on it to seal the bottle.\r\nI would have definitely remembered if it was \\''Corona\\''.\r\n\r\nThe bottles we\\''re trying to remember were smaller (approx. 250/300 ml in today\\''s money; about the size of a beer bottle, but clear glass) and had a crimped on cap.'),
(2271, 'I thought it could have been Corona because I remember that depot next to Maesdu bridge as being a Corona distribution place, always had loads of crates piled up outside? Could be my memory playing tricks on me though! I think we need an older member of the forum to tell us!\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2272, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nHow did we ever get on this subject !\r\n\r\nAnyway. Tizer bottles had a deep red label with orange lettering, and yes, it was Corona bottles that had a 3d return on them. The label, or rather the giant letter C on it, was a different colour depending on the flavour. Lemondade was a white label with a big yellow C on it. Other flavours were, cherry, cream soda, dandlion and burdock, orange, raspberry etc. etc.\r\n\r\nAnyone remember jublies ? A frozen pyramid of orange in a cardboard carton. When it had melted a bit, you could squeeze the carton and make it jump up. If you did it too hard, it would jump right out of the carton and on to the floor.  The standard rescue procedure was to rinse it under the cold tap and put it back in.\r\n\r\nWell they were too yummy to waste !'),
(2273, 'hi all, could you be talking about fanta bottles but you didnt get money back on them only corona as far as we can remember'),
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Hi all,\r\n\r\nAnyway. Tizer bottles had a deep red label with orange lettering, \r\n
\r\n\r\nI guess it\\''s my memory that\\''s been playing tricks!!??\r\n\r\nAfter the above post - I bow to opinion that the bottles I was trying to remember were \\''Tizer\\''; the recollection of Chris Williams of the "orange lettering" has pursuaded me.\r\n\r\nRe the Maesdu depot - yes it did become a \\''Corona\\'' depot - but I think that was after the time I was trying to recall.\r\n\r\nThankx to all.\r\n\r\nYes - I do remember the pyramid shaped frozen lollys; was the carton blue in colour with a white background in the shape of icicles; and also some red lettering?'),
(13860, 'I wishI could but there`s a gagging order in place :D \r\nI know what you mean about LA, I had a stopover there on the way back from NZ, went to Venice Beach on Sunday - bizarre :shock:'),
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I thought it could have been Corona because I remember that depot next to Maesdu bridge as being a Corona distribution place, always had loads of crates piled up outside? Could be my memory playing tricks on me though! I think we need an older member of the forum to tell us!\r\n\r\nSC
\r\nI can remember that building once being Schweppes.\r\n\r\nTalking about Corone, can anyone remember any flavours like American Cream Soda?'),
(2278, 'Right back to the subject in hand of \\''Local Characters\\'' otherwise anyone popping in on this subject will get confused  :lol:'),
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I thought it could have been Corona because I remember that depot next to Maesdu bridge as being a Corona distribution place, always had loads of crates piled up outside? Could be my memory playing tricks on me though! I think we need an older member of the forum to tell us!\r\n\r\nSC
\r\nI can remember that building once being Schweppes.\r\n\r\nTalking about Corona, can anyone remember any flavours like American Cream Soda?
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Isn\\''t that their intention ?  Remember the listed buildings Hafodunas Hall & Tan y Bryn Nursing Home  they were both refused planning permission & both were subsequently "accidently" destroyed by fire. Is the Castle Hotel next?
\r\nIn the case of Hafodunos, it was definitely arson by persons unconnected with the owners. The test is this...if a new apartment block or similar springs up on the site within a few months of a fire, then it\\''s possibly dodgy. If the site remains undeveloped (Hafodunos, Pier Pavilion etc), then there is no reason for the fire to have been dodgy. Follow the money and the truth is revealed.\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2282, 'I had the pleasure of seeing The Beatles at The Odeon to, and the day after going to Woolworths on Mostyn Street and buying a black plastic Beatles wig and a Beatles guitar. If only I\\''d kept them it would\\''ve helped the pension plan now.\r\n\r\nSadly no pictures survived the onslaught of time. But I have my memories of sitting in the circle having watched The Beatles, and Tommy Quickly perform \\''live\\'' WOW! Word did reach me that all the acts that performed there signed the walls of the dressing rooms. Yet more history ripped apart by developers.'),
(2283, 'My first school was Dyffryn Road Primary School, and my favourite teacher was Mrs Carr. I then went to Stella Maris Primary School on the day it opened. Lots of memories abound about Cannon Pozi, Sister Claire, Mother Consilio and of course Mr Jones and Mrs Griffith.\r\n\r\nI hated Apple Crumble, and one day Mrs Griffith was teacher in charge and made me sit at the table until I\\''d eaten every bit. I told her I\\''d be sick, but she wouldn\\''t believe me, and of course I was.\r\n\r\nI remember we used to watch big feature films bought in to school and shown in the Assembly Hall, one in particular was Bambi.\r\n\r\nI was in the Stella Maris school choir when they made their own LP. I wish I had a copy now. It was bilingual too.\r\n\r\nI still have the group class pictures that were taken on the stage, and ones of myself taken by the statue of Jesus.'),
(2284, 'I remember watching it burn and still have the pictures.\r\n\r\nOne memory I have was watching a local shop keeper crying whilst watching the place go up in flames. He wasn\\''t crying because he was upset at ASDA burning down, he was crying because he was happy as he knew it would take several months to rebuild ASDA, and as a result his long established local family business would survive that bit longer.\r\n\r\nHis business closed down not long after ASDA reopened.'),
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Be Prepared!\r\n\r\n\r\nWhere you in 1st Llandudno or 2nd Llandudno St. George\\''s and why was it called that?
\r\n\r\nYup!  I was in the 2nd Llandudno St. George\\''s.\r\n\r\nThe \\''St. George\\''s\\'' was after the Church of St. George\\''s in Church Walks - which was their \\''patron\\'' church.  Once or twice we attended a sort of \\''re(?) dedication\\'' service there.\r\nWhy St. George\\''s Church - rather than any other of the many churches in Llandudno I don\\''t know!\r\n(As an aside - I think Llandudno has more churches per sq. mile than anywhere else I know!!)\r\nI was in the Cubs, Scouts, and Senior Scouts from circa 1955 to 1963.\r\nWe used to meet in the Scout Hut behind the Lifeboat Station in Lloyd Street.  (is it still there?)\r\n(The Girl Guides used to meet in the Assembly/PE Hall of Lloyd Street school.)\r\nThe only names I can remember where a scout leader by the name of Hooson, who I think was son of the owner of Hooson\\''s the Chemists.\r\nWhen in the Scouts my Patrol Leader was Billy McCann, who lived in a cul-de-sac near the bicycle entance to JBGS.\r\nAs a lad I always wondered why we were \\''2nd\\'' - as if by implication we were second best to the 1st Llandudno (who I think met somewhere in Craig-y-Don.)  It was only years later that I realised that we were the 2nd only because numerically the 1st had been formed before us!!\r\nMy proudest moments were in consecutive years carrying the the 2nd Llandudno Scouts flag in the annual Rememberance Parades at the Cenotaph, and then march to church for the Service of Rememberance.\r\nOne year it was to Holy Trinity, and in the other year it was to the church (who\\''s name I forget) to the right of M & S in Mostyn Street.\r\n(Next door to the bank which was originally Williams Deacons; becoming Williams and Glynn\\''s; before being swallowed up by ? (was it National Westminster - to become NatWest; themselves being swallowed up by Royal Bank of Scotland?)\r\nIt was William Deacon\\''s that my Dad, and the business of \\''Mayfair\\'' in Deganwy Avenue, banked with - he introducing me to the bank in 1963 before I left Llandudno to go out into \\''the big world\\''.\r\nI have memories of camping trips to Holland (staying at the then brand new Baden Powell House in Kensington, London - on our way out and back.  And other summer camping weeks in Snowdonia (although one year we were swamped out by thunder storms and flash floods to our campsite near Beddgellert.\r\n\r\nAny one else out there in the 2nd St. George\\''s?'),
(2286, 'Hi peeps, just copying you in on an email i\\''ve just received. Can anyone help?'),
(2287, 'Dear Friends in Llandudno,\r\n\r\nGreetings from Hanover, Germany. I have come across your Llandudno Enthusiasts website while doing some research, and you are clearly just the people to help me.\r\n\r\nLet me explain what it’s all about.\r\n\r\nI’m English, but I have been living in or near Hanover for nearly 30 years\r\nnow and sing in the choir of the \\''Neustädter Hof-und Stadtkirche St.\r\nJohannis\\'', or \\''Court and Town Church of St. John in the New Town\\''. The Hanover Academy of Music has been encouraging the churches in Hanover to acquire different kinds of organ in recent years: there’s already a Spanish, an Italian and a French organ in the city, and as we need a replacement instrument too our Director decided to seek out an English instrument. Through a broker we have acquired the organ of the disused Christ Church Congregational Church in Llandudno. Now don’t jump down my throat; I know Llandudno isn’t England, but as the organ was built by an English firm (Forster & Andrews of Hull) it isn’t inappropriate to call it an English organ. The instrument is now in store in a dismantled condition here in Germany; it will probably not be installed in the church until 2009.\r\n\r\nThe organ bears a commemorative plaque with the inscription:\r\n\\''In loving memory of Thomas Barker Esq., J.P., of Plâs Gogarth, this organ was presented to Christ Church (Congregational) Llandudno, opened June 29th 1902\\''\r\n\r\nAs I understand the church was built in 1858, I presume the last part refers not to the opening of the church, but to the inauguration of the organ.\r\n\r\n>From my internet research I have discovered:\r\n\r\n1) There is a care home named „Plâs Gogarth“ in Church Walks, Llandudno\r\n\r\n2) Thomas Barker of Plâs Gogarth was High Sheriff of Carnarvonshire /\r\nCaernarfonshire in 1891/2; and in a list of of ore mines in Carnarvonshire\r\ndated 1896 he is listed as the owner of an antimony mine in Deganwy.\r\n\r\nI would be interested if your members could give me any information in the following directions:\r\n\r\nIs the Plâs Gogarth care home the former house of Thomas Barker Esq., JP? If so, can you tell me any more about the history of the house, when it was built, how long it was in the possession of the Barker family, and when it was converted into a care home?\r\n\r\nDo you know anything more about Thomas Barker (dates of birth/death) or his family? Do you know if he has any living descendants, and if so, can you help me to contact them? We think they might be interested in hearing about the fate of the organ, and I hope we might be able to invite a representative of the family to come over when the organ is in augurated in our church.\r\n\r\nI hope I can find email addresses of Plâs Gogarth and the Presbytrerian\r\nChurch on the internet; could you suggest who else I might contact – for example who now looks after the Llandudno municipal archives? \r\n\r\nThere is a nice photo of Christ Church in your Forum; I wonder if the\r\ncopyright owners would be kind enough to allow us to reproduce it in our\r\nchoir newsletter? (only circulated free to choir members, not sold).\r\n\r\nI would be very grateful for any help you could give me, and look forward to hearing from you, perhaps you could send any information that people come up with on to me at this address.\r\n\r\nThanks again in advance, and best wishes,\r\n\r\nAnthony Mellor-Stapelberg.'),
(2311, 'Hi Gerald,\r\nGlad you liked the blog, it took a while but I got there in the end  :lol: Thanks for your comments'),
(2289, 'Any one been to Sheffield?'),
(2312, 'I moved here on the 15th December 2004, I spent many a long hour trying to find a suitable place to rent cos of the animals and finally found my place in the Junction.\r\nI have to say, i\\''ve lived in many places in the UK such as Lambourn, Solihull, Birmingham, Chepstow, Abergavenny, also France and Ireland, but the one place I felt instantly at home in was here in Llandudno (ok maybe just outside  :lol:  ) \r\n\r\nI never tire of whats around me, there is so much to see and explore, its constantly changing with every season. I never feel restless and get the urge to move, its such a blessed relief after all this time to finally feel at peace and to live in such a wonderful area, mountains to one side, sea to the other and more woods than you can shake a stick at  :D \r\n\r\nWe spent sometime with some friends in Llangollen, I was nearly swayed by where they lived, but on our return, I knew I would\\''nt be going anywhere... Llandudno has cast her spell on me and I will be here for as long as i am able to stay.'),
(2291, 'I was also at Stella Maris when it opened - in Infants 1.  and was in the choir when they made the LP. We had to practice over and over until it was just right, Mrs Griffiths was very much the perfectionist.\r\nNuns refereeing football matches running around in their habits and having to learn Patriotic ENGLISH songs when an Irish football team came over!'),
(2292, 'Plas Gogarth care Home is on Gloddaeth Avenue, not Church Walks so I don\\''t think it is the place you are looking for. The 1891 census lists one Thomas Barker age 58, occupation JP and Brewer. Born in  Preston Lancashire. Also living there his sister Alice Barker 51 and cousin Amelia Barker 30 plus three servants. The property before  Plas Gogarth is Ormeside and the one after is Craigle'),
(2293, 'sorry should have said that  the Barkers were residing at Plas Gogarth Church Walks'),
(2294, 'Actually I am mistaken, apologies, I was thinking of Plas y Dre so yes it could very well be the right place.'),
(2295, 'All three Barkers were listed as single in 1891 so it might be difficult to find any descendents but I will look at earlier census returns to see if Thomas had  any other brothers or sisters\r\nSorry about my sporadic posts but i keep losing my connection - usually after doing a long post!'),
(2296, 'My Favourite teacher was Mother Alphonsa. I \\''ve today found numerous old pictures of my class. I wonder where everyone is now? I see a few around town, but I think lots have long since gone out of town.'),
(2297, 'I\\''ve had a quick  search on Ancestry.com: Thomas Barker was the son of Josiah and Ann Barker born in Preston in 1833. His father was a cotton spinner according to the 1841 census return living in Preston. In 1861 the family were living in West Derby and Thomas is listed as an accountant. By 1871 he is living in Huyton with his sister Alice and cousin Amelia. Occupation Brewer. He had three brothers Luke b 1832 and William b 1837 and George 1851. Alice Ann had moved to Wavertree by 1901 which I think followed the death of Thomas as he is not listed in the 1901 census. Amelia is also at the Wavertree address.'),
(2298, 'George Barker b 1841 not 51 as stated earlier did marry and have children, including son George C Barker born 1869 so there are likely to be descendants. I will try to find out more. Good luck with your searching'),
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2011, 04:15:29 PM »
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Be Prepared!\r\n\r\n\r\nWhere you in 1st Llandudno or 2nd Llandudno St. George\\''s and why was it called that?
\r\n\r\nYup!  I was in the 2nd Llandudno St. George\\''s.\r\n\r\nThe \\''St. George\\''s\\'' was after the Church of St. George\\''s in Church Walks - which was their \\''patron\\'' church.  Once or twice we attended a sort of \\''re(?) dedication\\'' service there.\r\nWhy St. George\\''s Church - rather than any other of the many churches in Llandudno I don\\''t know!\r\n(As an aside - I think Llandudno has more churches per sq. mile than anywhere else I know!!)\r\n\r\nSNIP!!!!
\r\n\r\nJust for info, until it closed (and I forget when that was) St George\\''s was the actual Parish Church of Llandudno and considerably pre-dates Holy Trinity which was built for the tourist trade..... so I guess that is why St George\\''s had a scout group all of its own....'),

(2300, 'I have had the pleasure of cooking for Mother Alfonsa, and mother congsillio, both of whom taught my sister but had moved on when I was there. I had a long talk with both  of them, they remembered my sister well, and had a lot to say about their style of teaching, saying in those days there was a lot of pressure on them, they had to teach all subjects with no training. As you have mentioned, they also taught football as well, and they had a good record, they were immensely proud of their teams winning cups for football. I myself was lucky to have nuns such as a lovely sr martine, sr jenifer, sr Imelda, Sr Aidrian. to name a few. Mrs Thomas was of course the best loved teacher, oh and miss briggs, wow I am glad I never had her, she was frightening, very strict. Also had miss owen, mr jones, and miss thorn. Even remembered the dinner ladies.....lol'),

(2301, '
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Be Prepared!\r\n\r\n\r\nWhere you in 1st Llandudno or 2nd Llandudno St. George\\''s and why was it called that?
\r\n\r\nYup!  I was in the 2nd Llandudno St. George\\''s.\r\n\r\nThe \\''St. George\\''s\\'' was after the Church of St. George\\''s in Church Walks - which was their \\''patron\\'' church.  Once or twice we attended a sort of \\''re(?) dedication\\'' service there.\r\nWhy St. George\\''s Church - rather than any other of the many churches in Llandudno I don\\''t know!\r\n(As an aside - I think Llandudno has more churches per sq. mile than anywhere else I know!!)\r\n\r\nSNIP!!!!
\r\n\r\nJust for info, until it closed (and I forget when that was) St George\\''s was the actual Parish Church of Llandudno and considerably pre-dates Holy Trinity which was built for the tourist trade..... so I guess that is why St George\\''s had a scout group all of its own....
\r\n\r\nHad never realised - even as a long time resident of Llandudno, that St. George\\''s was the actual original Parish Church.\r\nAnd of course it now makes perfect sense that 2nd Llandudno would have taken the name as their own (or vice versa - if you follow) - as being from that part of town (vice Craig-y-Don for the 1st.)\r\nMany thanks for that info.\r\n\r\nI actually attended the 3 classroom St. George\\''s Schhool that was (almost) attached to it.\r\n\r\nIf I\\''d been asked - "What is the Parish Church of ....?" - I would have said "Trinity Church" - probably because of it\\''s dominating architecture on the commanding site it occupies.\r\n\r\nFrom a Bradley family perspective - Holy Trinity was THE church; my parents being married there in 1941; followed by most of my Aunts and Uncles (5 in total): I was christened there; went to Sunday School there; was Confirmed there - by the Bishop of Bangor; my grandparents, parents all passed through it\\''s portals on their final journeys.\r\n\r\nSo the revelation (I think that word appropriate in the context!) that it WASN\\''T the Parish Church is just that; a revelation.'),

(2303, 'This is copied from another post under another thread(Beatles at the Odeon) - but seems more relevant on this thread (hope you don\\''t mind Craig)\r\n\r\nMy parents bought \\''Mayfair\\'' (11, Deganwy Avenue) from Jess Yates in 1946. Jess Yates was for many years the supposed father of Paula Yates - who went onto marry Bob Geldorf; then leave him for Michael Hutchinson; he dying by misadventure type suicide strapped by his neck to the back of a hotel bedroom door in his native Australia; she of drugs OD in London; Bob Geldorf has yet to change the world in Africa\\''s favour. It later came out (after DNA tests?) that her natural father was in fact Hughie Green. \r\nI understand that subsequent owners of \\''Mayfair\\'' have had a (rather naff) blue plaque put up by the front door!! (Talk about trying squeeze the last acid drop out of a lemon!!)'),

(2304, 'Re Jess Yates\r\n\r\nMy parents bought \\''Mayfair\\'' (11, Deganwy Avenue) from Jess Yates in 1946. Jess Yates was for many years the supposed father of Paula Yates - who went onto marry Bob Geldorf; then leave him for Michael Hutchinson; he dying by misadventure type suicide strapped by the neck to the back of a hotel bed room door in his native Australia; she of drugs OD in London; Bob Geldorf has yet to change the world in Africa\\''s favour. It later came out (after DNA tests?) that her natural father was in fact Hughie Green. \r\nI understand that subsequent owners of \\''Mayfair\\'' have had a (rather naff) blue plaque put up by the front door!! (Talk about trying squeeze the last acid drop out of a lemon!!)'),

(7185, 'Shops and shop-keepers, let\\''s delve into the social history and even behind the scenes of those characters who provided the local convenience service in our communities within Llandudno. Have you any stories to tell about how the services shopkeepers provided and any other importance in your life they played, perhaps you worked in a local shop as a delivery boy/girl or counter assistant, give us an insight into this once fundamental role in society and the essence of any social community.'),

(2313, 'Great blog and thanks for the pictures. I had forgotten all about the "Snake Pit". I too remember the cross country runs and also that we used to spend all day on Nant y Gamar in the summer. Perhaps next time you could take some pictures of Castle Rocks?')
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(2315, 'Hi ceedoubleu,\r\nOk you\\''ve got me lol .....Where are Castle Rocks ?'),

(6821, 'I was thinking, maybe because as he\\''s a painter & decorator, he can paint a whole house using \\''One pot\\'' of paint  :lol:'),
(2317, 'It\\''s many years since I have been there so I had to have a quick look at a map. At the junction of Nant y Gamar road, turn onto Bodafon lane and walk east. After about 300 metres there is a track shown on the map running south. As I remember, it used to be concrete. Head south ignoring the first fork, you should be going uphill. It then passes through a narrow valley which I think must be what we used to call Castle Rocks.'),

(2319, 'I\\''m intrigued... Can you remember if they were past Eryl-fryn and Bryn-glas or am I going in the wrong direction ?'),

(2320, 'I\\''m not familiar with those names. Its grid 804814 if that helps. I had a quick look at Streetmap!'),

(2607, 'The question of pedestrianisation is fraught with difficulties.  In some places it has shown to be counter-productive and in others a boon to the place concerned.  Llandudno is by comparison with many other places only a small town.  In fact take away Mostyn Street and there is little left!\r\n\r\nThe question of trams and also car parking spaces is also an issue.  I completed an exercise some years ago when they were taking about trams feeding the town from Bodafon Fields.   On the surface it appeared a good idea until the logistics were studied.\r\n\r\nThe loss of parking spaces is NOT the number of bays that you loose but 5 or 6 times the number of bays, due to the time limits on Town Centre parking.  So for every 100 parking bays, you effectively loose 500 or 600 parking opportunities or 1,200 people!\r\n\r\nThe tram Park and Ride question forgot to take into consideration the time elements of the movements of people into and out of the town.  The majority of people and traffic come into Llandudno between 8.00 a.m. and 1.00 p.m.  However the great majority of people leave between 4.30 p.m. and 6.00 p.m.  So the numbers that come in during 5 hours have to be evacuated, if using a Park and Ride scheme, in 1 and a half hours.  This effectively meant that one would have to have a tram every 20 seconds which is an impossibility.   \r\n\r\nThe type of tram envisaged with flywheel power would not cope with this and if there were a traffic jam or accident absolute chaos would rule supreme.  Quite apart from the number of vehicles required.\r\n\r\nYou cannot have pedestrianisation without thinking of people movement so without any effective solution to the Town Centre Parking pedestrianisation is a definite NO, NO!\r\n\r\nAlso deviating slightly, we have not yet seen the effect of the new Parc Llandudno on the Town\\''s traffic problems.  When building the new ASDA and contemplating Parc Llandudno the consultants produced a 400 page dossier purely of traffic management and parking.   If there were to be no problems why did it take 400 pages?  We will wait and see if the queues of traffic at the corner of Parc Llandudndo and Conwy Road get any better.\r\n\r\n.'),

(2322, 'Right, I\\''m definately intrigued now, I\\''m going to go up there tomorrow, weather permitting and have a mooch about, see if I can find it. I\\''m also going to see if i can find the Llanrhos devil tree.'),

(6812, '[I remember "Will" what happened to him?[/quote]\r\n\r\nAs far as I know he got his act together and settled down. Some of the things he used to get up to! Hangin off the crane that was behind the Victoria centre is one that springs to mind  :)'),

(2606, 'Can someone please tell me what a `traditional welsh breakfast ` is ?.\r\nI am welsh, born & bred, & have travelled all over Wales delivering varios goods, & have noticed on numerous cafe & guest house blurb.`TRADITIONAL WELSH BREAKFAST` served here.but what is it ?\r\nis the bread half toasted? are the sausage & bacon, made from Welsh dragon`s ? or does it include `fried leek & Daffodil`.\r\nPLEASE CAN YOU SOLVE THIS MYSTERY. :?');

(6231, 'On Wednesday 8 August a gathering of friends and family of Ness Ryder came together at the Colwyn Bay Crematorium for her funeral service. It was a great pleasure to see Anna Marie Munro there and she very kindly shared with us the following reading.\r\n\r\nGone From My Sight\r\n\r\nI am standing upon the seashore.\r\nA ship at my side spreads her white\r\nsails to the morning breeze and starts\r\nfor the blue ocean. \r\n\r\nShe is an object of beauty and strength. \r\nI stand and watch her until at length \r\nshe hangs like a speck of white cloud \r\njust where the sea and sky come \r\nto mingle with each other.\r\n\r\nThen, someone at my side says;\r\n"There, she is gone!"\r\n\r\n"Gone where?"\r\nGone from my sight. That is all. \r\nShe is just as large in mast and hull \r\nand spar as she was when she left my side \r\nand she is just as able to bear her \r\nload of living freight to her destined port.\r\nHer diminished size is in me, not in her.\r\n\r\nAnd just at the moment when someone\r\nat my side says, "There, she is gone!"\r\nThere are other eyes watching her coming,\r\nand other voices ready to take up the glad\r\nshout;\r\n"Here she comes!"\r\nAnd that is dying.\r\n\r\n===\r\nI\\''m also including for information (and probably for a limited period only) the script of the eulogy given at her service.....\r\n===\r\n\r\nIt’s wonderful to see so many friends gathered here today as we honour and give thanks for the life of Ness, and I’m sure that if I was to come around to speak to each person individually there would be many stories to share – we’d be here just about all day.

So I’m going to be a little self-indulgent and I’m going to share with you my memories of Ness\r\n\r\nI first met Ness – Miss MacNabb way back in 1976, as the consequence of another friendship with Stan Ryder who worked as an organist for the veteran comedian Alex Munro at the Happy Valley Open Air Theatre in Llandudno.  Now because that was seasonal work, he needed accommodation so he found a flat at 52 Warren Drive. It was a small garden flat over a ground floor garage and its owner was Miss MacNabb. She had been letting it out to visitors to the area so to have a longer term tenant was a departure from the norm. But it was not to be. Her solicitor at the time came to her with some advice, “It may not be so easy to get a long-term tenant out of the flat, after all, we don’t know who this man is….” so Ness was advised to cancel the arrangement. In the meantime, Stan Ryder had advised all his friends of his new address, had stationary and cards printed and was ready to move in. Ness would often recall that time with a laugh and she said that he looked so crestfallen that she offered him temporary digs in her own home until he was able to make other arrangements, and he became duly installed in a room up a spiral staircase. \r\n\r\nNow Stan and I came to be friends as a result of our mutual interest in playing the organ, and so one day in 1976 he invited me, a highly precocious 14 year old, over to the Happy Valley to play on the organ. Never one to turn down such an opportunity I got on the bus and went over to Llandudno, spent the day there, only to be invited back to tea, and so it was, a bus trip to Deganwy and tea with his landlady a rather nice lady who he called Miss MacNabb, and from that day on, I had discovered a new friend for life. Those here who knew Stan would not be in the least bit surprised to know that he immediately "ordered" a choc ice, which of course Ness didn\\''t have! One day followed into another, and on and on through the long hot summer of 1976, and then into 1977 as well, although by that time I was becoming a little less stage-struck and moving on; but always through the years there has been a ready welcome at Miss MacNabb’s home.\r\n\r\nNess was a most gracious host. My mind wanders back to those times when she would lay the table for tea. Bread and butter and jam and a pot of tea and fancy cakes, and a main course – perhaps sending out to the nearby fish and chip shop, and wonderful conversation and stories of her younger days in Belfast, of Greta her sister, and of her time in the WRNS. On the mantelpiece there was a photograph of her in uniform and she looked a million dollars. There was the time when we fried eggs together – Ness felt that she could never fry an egg properly and they always got broken. Ever confident, I took over the responsibility of cooking unbroken eggs. On another occasion we made home-made chicken soup with the carcass of a chicken – only to decide that it didn’t look too appetizing! Then there was the time that Stan ran out to answer the phone during the meal. So we decided to hide all three meals. Then when he came back, she didn’t half put on an act pretending that he must have forgotten that he had finished his tea. She kept such a straight face, that in the end I burst out laughing – and we’ve dined out on that tale ever since! She had a wonderful sense of humour, and she was one of the greatest story-tellers I have ever known. \r\n\r\nThere are just so many stories to tell you about Ness. We could literally be here all day. There was her car. When I first knew her she drove a splendid white and blue Vauxhall. It was quite a vintage car and beautifully kept. She didn’t drive a long way at any time, perhaps a weekly shopping trip, but occasionally she would take Stan to Rhyl if he had an evening show. Eventually she felt that car to be too big, somewhat expensive to maintain, and without the luxury of power steering it would have been like driving a tank so she settled for something a little smaller (and dare I say it, a lot less stylish!) Then there was her lawn-mower and she would tell the tale that the manager at the lawn-mower shop had advised her to buy a Ransom’s petrol mower as it was the Rolls-Royce of lawn mowers. Rolls Royce or not, I loved the opportunity of cutting the grass for her and would often be rewarded with a pound! She loved her garden, and particularly I remember her love of roses and the strawberries which she grew in the back and which we picked and ate!\r\n\r\nI could tell you about the times we spent playing the piano and organ in duet and singing hymns such as Shall we gather at the River – and another great favourite of hers – she said it was a Metrical Psalm (from her days in the Presbyterian Church in Ireland) Ye Gates lift up your heads on high. One evening I rolled back home at 11.30pm (at 16 years old) and had to ring the doorbell to get my parents to let me in! I didn’t half get a telling off for that as they hadn’t realised I was still out! I can look back on all of that now, and these were days of pure happiness. \r\n\r\nNess had a great spirit of kindness and concern for others, her friends and neighbours. There was a Mrs Hayes who gave her piano lessons; there was Miss Capstick; and Miss Morgan Jones – she was a Christian Scientist – and there were so many others; Mr Davies her gardener, who had such trouble with his arthritis; there was her concern for Alex Munro as she would recall how he struggled to maintain the shows. When I told her that I was going to university she looked very anxious and concerned and offered me a word of warning to keep well clear of strange religious groups! To have Ness as a friend was to have a friend for life, and I really can say that I never ever heard her utter a bad word against anyone.\r\n\r\nIn later days many of those friends have gone on, and even dear Stanley who she married in 1985, died quite suddenly in February 1998.  And that is one of the burdens of living a long life – the reality that as time goes by one outlives all those loved ones of days gone by. But still Ness maintained that wonderful spirit of friendship and concern, and as a result she was loved by all who came into contact with her!\r\n\r\nIn the night in which he was betrayed, our Lord Jesus shared a last supper with his disciples, and in the course of this he said them “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another.” (John 13: 34). And this really sums up the life of Ness, for she had a profound Christian Faith. She was never one to preach, and she was not a regular attendee at church, but she knew where she had come from and where she was going, and she remained a faithful follower of Jesus Christ to the last. \r\n\r\nWe have talked of fond memories of friends now in the presence of the Lord and today we are confident that Ness too takes her place in the Kingdom of Heaven – a place where she is reunited with all those she has loved long-since and lost awhile. Thanks be to God for our dear friend Ness!'),

(2326, 'Is that the hollow one? If so, and my memory isn\\''t too shaky, its not too far from the rocks, walking towards Llanrhos of course.'),

(10754, 'There are some 10,000 parishes in England & Wales. Most have Parish Councils (Community Councils in Wales) which are the smallest political and administrative units recognised by Central Government and are thus potentially very important for decision making about the local environment.\r\nSo Alphaline, I would say that the Church will hold sway, regarding the Parish boundary markers in Llandudno.'),

(13720, 'Sam Owen has a memorial plaque attatched to an outside wall at Llandudno Hospital. It reads:\r\n\r\nSam Owen 1908-1990\r\n\r\nYmgyrchudd Diflino ar ran Ysbyty Llandudno Gweithiwr Cymunedol a Chymeriad Liel.\r\n\r\nTireless Campaigner for Llandudno Hospital Community Worker and Local Personality.'),


(2349, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nc1966 - Stella Maris School, Llandudno\r\n\r\nBACK ROW LEFT TO RIGHT\r\n\r\nGirl (Unknown)\r\nDavid Lyon (Son of CCBC Councillor Margaret Lyon)\r\nMiddle boy (Unknown)\r\nMargaret Farrell\r\nNext girl (Unknown)\r\nPaul Turner (former Assistant Pro at the North Wales Golf Club & Golf \r\nHistorian - Deceased 2005 age 51)\r\n\r\nFRONT TWO LEFT TO RIGHT\r\n\r\nLeft Ronnie Jones (Owns the Summit Complex on the Great Orme)\r\nNext boy (Unknown)

(4121, 'Hello Waffagolf.\r\n\r\nIn retirement I do a lot of work nationally in the fields of Patient and Public Involvement (not operative in Wales which still has Community Health Councils), service user consultation and disability rights. An organisation called Involve (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) has recently been conducting a survey of which methods of communication are going to be the most effective and accessible. Amongst welters of IT innovations, community radio stood out as the only \\''old fashioned\\'' facility.\r\n\r\nIn the attempts to get ordinary local people to participate in the development of healthcare policy and practices which genuinely meet the needs of service users and which are not just the product of the \\''we know what is best for you\\'' mentality, reaching and engaging those people who are hidden in social corners buried by stigma is hugely difficult. Community Radio has a great part to play here.\r\n\r\nNow a section of community radio for service users and run by service users would be tremendous!\r\n\r\nHeddwch.\r\n\r\nMike.'),

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Another one for the horror movie was \\''Warewolf\\'' - we called him that because of his excessive amount of body-hair - used to teach us Metalwork at Central after \\''Metalie\\'' Hughes retired.
:shock:  :shock: \r\n\r\nI worry about you & wonder if this was the reason you left for LA, Trojan.  :twisted:  :D \r\nI can honestly say that I never saw a teacher`s body hair in my whole time at YJB - except for that one time with Ma Butler :oops:[/quote]\r\n\r\n :lol:  I should of re-phrased my description - I meant the excessive hair coming out from his shirt collar and on his arms with his sleeves rolled up. He also had a beard to round off the effect.\r\n\r\nThere\\''s much more scarier people here in L.A. than in Llandudno Y Gafr - tell us about the Ma Butler incident - that one sounds interesting.  :twisted:'),

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SC, don\\''t be surprised if they actually own the mining rights etc. under the seabed going out for 10 miles.  :wink:
\r\n\r\nBest keep our beach combing event hush from the other week then with the several kilos of wrought iron, copper piping we dug up.  8)
\r\n\r\nSo that\\''s where the appaling stench mentioned in \\''local talk\\'' was coming from - Craigs\\'' pulled up a drainage pipe.  :lol:'),

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Isn\\''t that their intention ?  Remember the listed buildings Hafodunas Hall & Tan y Bryn Nursing Home  they were both refused planning permission & both were subsequently "accidently" destroyed by fire. Is the Castle Hotel next?
\r\n\r\nExactly the feeling I have Hugo.'),

(13854, 'Just look what the consultants did for the West Shore sea defence. The council should have sued them not paid them!'),

(13855, 'I remember Bill Bruckshaw - he had three daughters - I think two still live locally. Bill and his wife died some years ago.\r\n\r\nCouncil Street was re-named Norman Road in the late 1970s when the Council houses were converted to OAP sheltered flats.'),

(2356, 'no its not Sue its Rosalind Hall (communion photo)'),

(2353, 'That is me second from the right in the second row  in the school concert!\r\nfifth from the left in the top row of the communion photo is Hilda Hughes! I recognise a quite a few others by sight but many of the names escape me.'),

(2358, 'Just picked up on this thread, so belated congratulations to Frank from all at North Wales Car Club.  Frank has helped us on many occasions especially at the Cambrian Rally.  Big thanks from all in NWCC.  Cheers, Dave V Thomas'),

(9161, 'Did you know anyone can propose a street name ?\r\n\r\nIf there\\''s no objection that\\''s what the name becomes.\r\n\r\nI\\''ve always regarded this particular one as Happy Valley Road but I may be wrong.'),

(2361, 'It would also be great to see any interior photos of the Pavilion from any stage in its history, as there appears to be very little about. The only one I\\''ve seen is this, very early, one:
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(2362, 'Thanks Gerald  :)  so we have one !!!  I\\''ve scoured quite a few books now and the most I\\''ve come up with is a reference to the Watch Tower in Deganwy which was part of a chain of watch towers/beacons along the coast in North Wales that were look outs for pirates posing a threat to the local shipping in and around Llandudno.\r\n\r\nThe next link in the chain of watch towers is at Llandrillo Church.\r\n\r\nNo luck with anything on Leden though  :('),

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Thanks Gerald  :)  so we have one !!!  I\\''ve scoured quite a few books now and the most I\\''ve come up with is a reference to the Watch Tower in Deganwy which was part of a chain of watch towers/beacons along the coast in North Wales that were look outs for pirates posing a threat to the local shipping in and around Llandudno.\r\n\r\nThe next link in the chain of watch towers is at Llandrillo Church.\r\n\r\nNo luck with anything on Leden though  :(
\r\n\r\nIts Ledyn in welsh, but I ain`t found anything else either, although Leden is a nordic/icelandic name, and the Great Orme is supposed to be named after a great viking chieften.'),

(10719, 'hi everyone  the old alex pub is now called the irish bar its all done out in an irish theme still get the old charecters in,martin stilldoes kareoke on a sunday night but there always seems to be a fight in there usualy a free for all then its ooh time to move on to next place, they do some good deals on the drinks there though and happy hours but ime always working when its happy hour just as well eh dont wanna get to happy ha! :D :D'),

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Well, as i\\''ve said in previous threads, a casino would be best placed on the old pavilion site, I feel the amount of investment needed with any casino development would be suffice to put something grand back in it\\''s space.
\r\n\r\nI think whatever is built on the pavilion site needs to be family friendly. A  casino could occupy a small section but I don\\''t really like the idea for the same reasons as Piloti. There needs to  be an emphasis on family entertainment . I like the idea of a restaurant - what about one with entertainment thrown in like Garbo\\''s in Gran Canaria, where all the waiters and waitresses are also singers and dancers and all do a turn after the meal? The site is large enough for a wide range of facilities such as a really well thought out  and well supervised childrens play area with areas where parents can sit and relax within view of their children\r\n\r\nLlandudno is not really known for its "night life" I would rather see it stay that way.'),
(2368, 'I have just spent the last 18min 57secs watching the Alex Munro video I found on your website. How wonderful and utterly enthralling it was to see Alex, Stanley, Billy etc. It brought back such terrific memories for me, as I used to take part in Alex\\''s Talent Show in the Happy Valley on many occasions. WOW!\r\n\r\nAlex was such a character. It was a sad day when he left us. \r\n\r\nIt was wonderful to see some friends of mine taking part in the Talent Show. The young boy with the straw hat on singing \\''Thank Heaven For Little Girls\\'' is David Williams from Old Colwyn, and the girl who sang \\''Count Your Blessings\\'' is his sister Michelle Williams, who went under her stage name of Rosa Michelle.\r\n\r\nShe appreared on Hughie Greens \\''Opportunity Knocks\\'' back in the 1970s and was introduced by her brother David, who at the time had lost his front teeth, and, whilst introducing his sister did part of his act which was whistling through the gap in his teeth. I remember it as thought it was yesterday.\r\n\r\nMichelle did a season with Jess Yates at the Astra, Llandudno, and went on to play the lead role of \\''Annie\\'' in the musical of the same name in the West End of London. At the same time she was signed by Pye Records, who released a 7" single of her singing \\''Tomorrow\\'' from the musical. I have a signed copy.\r\n\r\nMichelle went onto become a fully qualified music teacher, and got married during the 1990s at Ruthin Castle, at which I was a guest. Apart from myself, she was the only person who I allowed to drive my Rolls Royce.\r\n\r\nWhat Alex did by holding his talent shows was to give people a chance to \\''tread the boards\\'', a start in the entertainment business. I learnt a great deal from watching him from being on stage with him, and from watching him from a deck chair within the open air theatre, or by sitting up on Aberdeen Hill. I have now been in the Entertainment business for 38 years.\r\n\r\nIt was wonderful to see the inside of the Pier Pavillion too, for, in the early 70s I had the pleasure of going to see \\''Pete Murray\\''s Open House\\'' go out live on the BBC, the place was full to overflowing. Pete was treated like a superstar.\r\n\r\nOn the programme with him, were the lengendary Jimmy Edwards and Eric Sykes. I had with me my hand held cassette recorder with built in microphone, and was fortunate enough to be allowed to interview Pete Murray at the rear of the stalls, but even better than that, both Eric Sykes and Jimmy Edwards on the actual stage. I still have that cassette tape.\r\n\r\nThe programme went out \\''Live\\'', but there was a protest outside by some student types, I think from the Welsh Language Society (I may be wrong and stand to be corrected, so apologies if I am), who cut into the cables taking the signals to the BBC vans outside. It was fixed, but not before they had made their point and disrupted the show.'),

(2370, 'I know this is an oldie but it has me enthralled, they reckon this cave is approx. 400 years old and was "vamped" up for William Mostyn who died in 1576. Thank the powers that be that ole Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen was\\''nt around then  :lol: \r\nThe whole history,story and description of the cave is apparently told in the poem Cywydd i\\''r Llech yn Llandudno by Sion Dafydd Las.'),

(2371, '● After speaking with Bob Barnsdale a local Historian a few weeks back, he tells me of when the town was getting a footing for itself, there was speculation of turning it into a harbour town, closing the bay with a wall from Little Orme to the Great Orme. To build this wall the materials would have had to be sought locally, two places spring to mind \\''yes you\\''ve guessed them\\''. If this did go ahead, the ormes themselves would not look like they do today, hundreds of thousands of tonnes worth of materials would have been cut away behind the Little Orme (more severe than what you see already on the opposite side), and quite possibly more of the quarried section of Happy Valley almost as if discretely hidden from the eye, this would have left a tremendous wound if anyone had of ventured around those boundaries, thats if of course the harbour project had gone ahead.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),

(2375, 'I would like to shed light on \\''industrial Llandudno\\'' a part of Llandudno\\''s History which is seemingly gone and forgotten. Lets look at bygone years, when Llandudno was independent with many industries of its own. Including a brick works, gas works, produce grown locally, an abattoire, ice creamery, bakery and the o. Did you work in any of these industries or know of anyone who did, how has industry changed over the years?'),

(2376, '● Is the longest passenger cable car system in the UK at 1 mile and 40 feet or 1612 metres if you want to go metric  :) \r\n\r\n● It opened on the 30th June 1969.\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS AND SNIPPETS HERE!'),

(2377, '● The RNLI service was first established in Llandudno in 1861 and the first lifeboat was named "The Sisters\\'' Memorial"\r\n\r\nSHARE YOUR FACTOIDS & SNIPPETS HERE!'),

(2378, 'Plas Gogarth was Llandudno\\''s first parsonage.\r\nThe mine Thomas Barker owned was called "Bwlch" in Deganwy.\r\nThe Christ Church UR Church dates from around 1850 and the congregation of the church now worship at Gloddaeth UR Church.\r\nLink below You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login),

(2379, 'THE LLANDUDNO LOCAL FORUM,\r\nMEMORIES MADE FROM NON-RENEWABLE SOURCES,\r\nLETS NOT PUT THEM TO WASTE!\r\n\r\nOne of the the largest green areas in Llandudno is now in fact a former toxic waste dump. Known as \\''The Dump\\'' opposite Maesdu Road in Llandudno there has been many a recent issue which come to light in the local press lately, especially on the movement and relocation of the John Bright School. It would be interesting to hear were there any other eyebrows raised in its early days of its life, when did it start, when did it close?. How has Llandudno managed its waste through history? nowadays we take it for granted that a bin wagon comes to takes our refuse some several miles away from the town itself. It is hard to even comprehend that such an eye sore and health risk was sought upon here in the heart of Llandudno in the first place. Share your memories of \\''The Dump\\'' here at Llandudno Enthusiasts.'),

(2380, 'I remember that one of the first jobs i ever had, was in the 60s working at\r\n`John Hughes` bakery, which was at  the bottom end of Builder st, opposite where Jewsons is now.\r\nApart from the usual tidying up & sweeping & cleaning etc all the usual jobs the new boy gets, they gave me the job of putting the filling in Eccles cakes.Now obviously i thought this was quite important at the time & imagined myself to be a new top chef or something in the future.\r\nThree weeks on, after shoving a handful of currants & butter into hundreds of Eccles cakes, i was getting fed up of these things & wanted to leave. My mind was made up when i went into our local shop one day, & one that we supplied with cakes, when whilst i was waiting to be served the lady in front of me started to complain to the shopkeeper about there being less & less currants in the Eccles cakes,then she turned to me, opened one of them & asked if i agree with her, i said i did & made a quick exit.\r\nI changed careers after that.'),

(2381, 'Oh Dave that is so funny, that was my Dads bakehouse and my Taids before him!!'),

(2382, 'I worked in Thayers Ice Cream (formerly Hi-Hat) till we all got made redundant, we were so successful that we needed to expand but North Wales Joinery bought the place next door, so Thayers ended up closing the place and returned to working from their head office in Cardiff. It was the best job I ever had, I started there as a packer, then worked my way up to Asst Head Stock Controller. Great fun, hard work and a great team of friends there. The Take-homes at the end of the week were good too. I remember one day, Mr Thayer senior turned up in his Silver ghost rolls royce. He was a working class bloke, no snobbery at all. He was draped with Gold on his fingers and wrist, and asked at dinner time for the best place to get a fish and chip dinner. Sure enough he came back well satisfied, he only parked his Rolls Royce outside Greasy Lils chip shop, back madoc street, went in and had a sit down meal, complete with chipped mug of tea.  That story was told for years.  Happy Days. We made the best vanilla ice cream, black cherry was fantastic, and lemon sorbet yummmmmmy, we made mousse under the Iceland brand label, and also 1L ice cream tubs for BEJAM, in the winter we packed rasberries, and did stock takes etc, painted the interior walls and ceilings, cleaned out freezer warehouses completely. THen at xmas things picked up again and we made ice cream gateuxs.'),
(2383, 'The stench, it was unmistakable,  You held your nose for ages when walking past, it was sickening, then there was the millions of seagulls, what a noise they made, it was like the Hitchcock movie "The Birds" and then to top that the were rats galore, you were very careful walking passed as you seen the earth move. How on earth the place existed was remarkable. After the cover up, the land was always uneven, polluted, stupid to build a school field on there, even now they have a zone surrounding the school with vents from the ground.'),

(2393, 'Interesting response from Synth_Star. But, try as I may, I couldn\\''t find the answers to my questions.\r\n\r\nI am though, extremely pleased that he has taken the time to provide an insight into the project that we would not have been afforded if it were not for this Forum.\r\n\r\nI must say that I hadn\\''t realised that asking the community of Llandudno what they want to hear on their Community Radio Station was dependant on money forthcoming from the Big Lottery Fund. Does that then mean that, if the application to the BLF fails, that LCR will not be asking the community what they want to hear?\r\n\r\nI realise that nothing is, as yet, definate regarding the BLF application, but, correct me if I\\''m wrong, what is definate, is that LCR have a three month period in which to submit their licence application to Ofcom, so surely everything must be done now in order to provide all the information required on the form regardless of the BLF application being successful or not. There are other funding streams that can be accessed.\r\n\r\nThe words of Synth_Star do suggest a reactive approach that could lead to the failure of the project, when in fact, a proactive campaign now could see the project come to fruition regardless of funding from the BLF.\r\n\r\nPerhaps Synth_Star could enlighten us all as to what LCR will do regarding their Community Radio Licence Application to Ofcom if the BLF application fails on June 1st 2007. For if his response is that they will apply anyway, then that begs the question why not ask the community of Llandudno what they want to hear right now. After all, time is of the essence, and as the Board have never embarked on such an exercise before, they no not what to expect from the work ahead.\r\n\r\nOne things for sure, I for one would love to hear programmes that feature Tamla Motown and Northern Soul music. There, I\\''ve started the ball rolling.\r\n\r\nSynth_Star states, and I quote "I\\''m not going to bore anyone with waffle, but waffagolf states that "communication is the key". Well, when we have something positive to communicate, that is exactly what we will do"\r\n\r\nCorrect me if I\\''m wrong, but haven\\''t LCR recently spent around £89,000 on purchasing broadcast studio and transmission equipment. Surely that is positive and something the whole community would like to be made aware of, after all, the money is from the public purse.\r\n\r\nThere must be a great many members of our wonderful community who would take inspiration from knowing this and seeing the pictures of the equipment on the Tudno FM website, and details of what the equipment is capable of. The resulting WOW factor could see LCR being inundated with offers of help and support.\r\n\r\nMaybe Synth_Star doesn\\''t see the purchase of the equipment as "something positive to communicate", but I know I do.\r\n\r\nNo, don\\''t tell me, let me guess, it\\''ll be on the revamped radio station website, and was already planned in advance, and had nothing to do with anyone pushing.\r\n\r\nOne last thing, I\\''ve just looked at the Tudno FM website and I just can\\''t seem to find any email addresses. What was it Synth_Star said "Apologies to anyone whom has tried contacting us by email via the website. After some investigations, we found a few problems with the mail server and some of the emails sent to the members had not gone to the correct mailbox. We have now rectified this, so email us (at your peril )".\r\n\r\nMay I suggest the provision and sight of email addresses on the website would be useful in this context?'),
(2386, 'Hi Everyone, I’ve just joined the forum, and I thought I’d join in on the Llandudno Community Radio Discussion.\r\n\r\nActually, I’m involved in the project, and I thought I’d respond to "some" of questions/comments raised on here.\r\n\r\nApologies to anyone whom has tried contacting us by email via the website.  After some investigations, we found a few problems with the mail server and some of the emails sent to the members had not gone to the correct mailbox.  We have now rectified this, so email us (at your peril :-))\r\n\r\nCraig, with regards to your questions re. listening online.  Yes, you will be able to listen online, however, initially, this will only be enabled for discussion-based programmes.  Due to licensing issues with PRS/MCPS, online broadcasting of music-based programs with be only available as podcast downloads with the music edited out.  The current regulations, and costs required for legitimate online music streaming are at this point prohibitive.\r\n\r\nThis may be subject to change in the future, so keep your eyes on the website, which will also be going through some changes in the near future.\r\n\r\nAs Ian, sorry, Waffagolf, has mentioned, the programmes will be devised, produced and presented by local people with a local bias as a broadcasting and training platform for the community.  And this is for ALL members of the community.  Waffagolf (sorry, Ian) mentions that one of the directors was asked by a 14 year old if they would be able to present their own program.  This would not be a problem, as for anyone, if they were to be trained to an acceptable standard and supervised by an appropriate member of the team whilst doing their program.\r\n\r\nF.A.O. Pobo.  Yes, some of the current directors do not live within the area, but at present, the project is in the final planning stages, and the members of the board have extensive experience in their field with regards to radio/media/journalism & training.  I myself, have previously set up a radio station that is still on air after 4 years.  Once the project has been finalised, all funding approved and the station building is started, we will actively recruit people who wish to be involved ready to go on-air.  Are you interested, if so, please do get in touch!\r\n\r\nA former member of the board who resigned (waffagolf, Ian) is enquiring to the board with regards to what research has been done with regards to tastes and interests that people may have for output of the station, which he so rightly points out is required for our Ofcom application for a license.  The closing date for our application is Tues 30th Oct.  We have almost completed our application, with this being the final piece that needs to be completed.  But seeing as we haven\\''t had the go-ahead with our final funding application yet, it would be a bit presumptuous of us to canvas potential listeners with regards to what they want to hear on their airwaves, when, we haven\\''t even been given the final funding to build a station in the first place.  Once this has been finalised (June 1st), all systems will be go.  We\\''re getting questionnaires ready for the punters, and will be starting a press campaign to gee up the project.\r\n\r\nAll of us at LCR take extreme exception to Ian\\''s continuous doubting of our commitment and passion towards this project.  Just because he\\''s no longer a member of the board and is no longer party to our activities with regards to the station, it doesn\\''t mean that we don\\''t have vision, commitment, dedication and enthusiasm, and there is a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes.  I find it difficult to believe that someone who was so committed to the project, and left of his own accord, now keeps contacting us by email, threatening to contact Ofcom, Welsh Assembly, Big Lottery Fund to provide them, with his subjective evidence,  quote "overwhelming lack of enthusiasm, commitment, inaction and passion shown by the board", with the aim of putting the project in jeopardy.  I\\''m sorry to readers if this seems like an attack, but these emails from him to members of the LCR board, appears to make us feel that he\\''s trying to undermine our hard efforts, making people think that they want to leave because of the aggravation, and just because we don\\''t work in the same methods that he does, it doesn\\''t mean that nothing\\''s happening - IT IS!\r\n\r\nOI.  Richard Sutton, I’m not that old.  Compared to the other members, I’m a spring chicken!\r\n\r\nAnyway, updates will be following in the next week or so.\r\nSynth_Star!'),

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Hi Everyone, I’ve just joined the forum, and I thought I’d join in on the Llandudno Community Radio Discussion.\r\n\r\nActually, I’m involved in the project, and I thought I’d respond to "some" of questions/comments raised on here.\r\n\r\nApologies to anyone whom has tried contacting us by email via the website.  After some investigations, we found a few problems with the mail server and some of the emails sent to the members had not gone to the correct mailbox.  We have now rectified this, so email us (at your peril :-))\r\n\r\nCraig, with regards to your questions re. listening online.  Yes, you will be able to listen online, however, initially, this will only be enabled for discussion-based programmes.  Due to licensing issues with PRS/MCPS, online broadcasting of music-based programs with be only available as podcast downloads with the music edited out.  The current regulations, and costs required for legitimate online music streaming are at this point prohibitive.\r\n\r\nThis may be subject to change in the future, so keep your eyes on the website, which will also be going through some changes in the near future.\r\n\r\nAs Ian, sorry, Waffagolf, has mentioned, the programmes will be devised, produced and presented by local people with a local bias as a broadcasting and training platform for the community.  And this is for ALL members of the community.  Waffagolf (sorry, Ian) mentions that one of the directors was asked by a 14 year old if they would be able to present their own program.  This would not be a problem, as for anyone, if they were to be trained to an acceptable standard and supervised by an appropriate member of the team whilst doing their program.\r\n\r\nF.A.O. Pobo.  Yes, some of the current directors do not live within the area, but at present, the project is in the final planning stages, and the members of the board have extensive experience in their field with regards to radio/media/journalism & training.  I myself, have previously set up a radio station that is still on air after 4 years.  Once the project has been finalised, all funding approved and the station building is started, we will actively recruit people who wish to be involved ready to go on-air.  Are you interested, if so, please do get in touch!\r\n\r\nA former member of the board who resigned (waffagolf, Ian) is enquiring to the board with regards to what research has been done with regards to tastes and interests that people may have for output of the station, which he so rightly points out is required for our Ofcom application for a license.  The closing date for our application is Tues 30th Oct.  We have almost completed our application, with this being the final piece that needs to be completed.  But seeing as we haven\\''t had the go-ahead with our final funding application yet, it would be a bit presumptuous of us to canvas potential listeners with regards to what they want to hear on their airwaves, when, we haven\\''t even been given the final funding to build a station in the first place.  Once this has been finalised (June 1st), all systems will be go.  We\\''re getting questionnaires ready for the punters, and will be starting a press campaign to gee up the project.\r\n\r\nAll of us at LCR take extreme exception to Ian\\''s continuous doubting of our commitment and passion towards this project.  Just because he\\''s no longer a member of the board and is no longer party to our activities with regards to the station, it doesn\\''t mean that we don\\''t have vision, commitment, dedication and enthusiasm, and there is a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes.  I find it difficult to believe that someone who was so committed to the project, and left of his own accord, now keeps contacting us by email, threatening to contact Ofcom, Welsh Assembly, Big Lottery Fund to provide them, with his subjective evidence,  quote "overwhelming lack of enthusiasm, commitment, inaction and passion shown by the board", with the aim of putting the project in jeopardy.  I\\''m sorry to readers if this seems like an attack, but these emails from him to members of the LCR board, appears to make us feel that he\\''s trying to undermine our hard efforts, making people think that they want to leave because of the aggravation, and just because we don\\''t work in the same methods that he does, it doesn\\''t mean that nothing\\''s happening - IT IS!\r\n\r\nOI.  Richard Sutton, I’m not that old.  Compared to the other members, I’m a spring chicken!\r\n\r\nAnyway, updates will be following in the next week or so.\r\nSynth_Star!
\r\n\r\nThanks for the info, I must say, living around the corner from the LCR site, I am really looking forward to it. THere are some minor worries I have, and they may be quickly answered. Are the radio masts going to be unsightly? Huge size etc? will I be subject to any interference to my wifi on my pc, my tv etc? Although, you do have a website, it would be nice to see a newsletter or something being delivered to locals saying whats going on etc? There seems to be little communication to locals, which I find the same goes to the Ty Hapus as well. Also, if so much is planned for the building, why isnt there a bit of security there? the place seems to going to rot on the outside, the gates are never closed or locked like it used to be when it was John Brights Sports hall. I must say though, as well as a radio station, I am looking forward to the studio`s etc, and lets hope you can get local kids in there training to do media, souns studies, music, recording lessons etc. Fantastic stuff. Good Luck for the future.'),

(10718, 'Hi Dave\r\ni am really pleasedyou got message, wellyou wantto know about Rob, Well i met Rob 20 years ago and i married him 14 yrs ago, Rob has 2 daughters from his firs marriage, Justine, and Milissa,  justine has 3 children and milissa hasnot got any, i have2 children fro my first marriage and i have 5 grandchildren (old fogey) we both lived for a fw years in cwm place when Mum and nanna Rosie lived there, we have moved over to the westshore area now, but we do miss cwm place, great people on cwm place, well my sister in law lives there (julie) i had to say that  :lol:  we have had some realy great times living in cwm place.\r\ni do hope you get to get down to meet us all i am sure Rob would be made up to see you and your family.\r\nWell Davie give our love to your wife and daughter. Speak to you soon.\r\n(((Hugs))) Ursula & Rob xx'),

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No one has mentioned the mini-golf course in Llwynon Road on the Orme.\r\n\r\nStill operating today and one of Llandudno\\''s best kept secrets.
\r\n\r\nI has been mentioned before John. Check out \\''Times Past\\'' \\''What\\''s your oldest memory of Llandudno town\\'' page 2.'),

(2389, 'Hi Gerald\r\n\r\nFirstly, thanks for your interest.  Secondly, the radio transmitter antenna will be located on the Orme, piggybacking on one of the existing masts.  There will be no interfereance whatsover.  As i have mentioned, we are currently finalisng finances with Big Lottery Fund, which we should have a decision on for on 1st June.  At this point, we are not making such a big broohah about things, as if this financing application should fail by a small chance, if we\\''d make a song and dance about things, we\\''d look silly with egg on our faces.  All i can say is watch this space.  Part of the financing will be to do with refurbishment of Ty Hapus, so a lot of work will be done if the funding is cleared.\r\n\r\nThe idea is, as well as providing local broadcasting service, is to provide people, young old or whatever, with media skills, journalism skill, audio production, I.T. training and everything required to do with media, with an outlook to provide acreditted qualifications in the relative subjects.  It\\''s a very exciting project, and the more positive publicity we can generate for it, the better, rather than having a disgruntled ex-director knocking us for in his opinion, lack of comittment.\r\n\r\nIf you want to help or get any more info, check out the website, it will be soon updated and email us from there.\r\n\r\nMany thanks\r\n\r\nSynth_Star');

(2390, 'Extremely interesting words from Synth_Star. As I understand it, he wasn\\''t a member of the Board at the same time as Ian, could I ask if he has ever contacted Ian in any way, shape or form to get his side of the story as to why he left the project? \r\n\r\nAs for Ian "threatening" to go to Ofcom or anyone else for that matter, has Synth_Star spoken to Ian about what was actually said or not said about contacting whoever, or has he just taken the word of someone else without first hearing the other side? The old saying is \\''There are two sides to every story\\''.\r\n\r\nThe word "threatening" is a very strong word, one that can conjour up to the unknowing a completley wrong and utterly unfair impression of someone. It is often used in the same phrase as the word \\''terrorism\\''. Therefore to use such a word about Ian, is completely out of order, especially if you haven\\''t spoken to him personally about the subject in question. You have spoken to him personally on the subject, haven\\''t you?\r\n\r\nSynth_Star may be pleased to know that the Director in question who was asked by the 14 year old if they would be allowed to present their own programme, and was told yes, they could, was, in fact, Ian himself.\r\n\r\nI\\''m sure, knowing Ian as well as I do, that he would be only too pleased to show Synth_Star documentation appertaining to his reasons for leaving the project. On sight of said documentation, it could be that Synth_Star will take a different view of what\\''s gone before and what is transpiring now, and why. If indeed anything is.\r\n\r\nYou call Ian a "disgruntled ex-Director", and if that\\''s your opinion you are, quite rightly, entitled to it. But before you go using such a word as "disgruntled" about someone, should you not enquire with them first as to why they are, if, indeed they are, which I suggest, in Ian\\''s case, is not the correct word to use? You have spoken to Ian on this point, haven\\''t you?\r\n\r\nPerhaps you could share with us when the last time was you spoke to Ian or had any contact with him yourself about anything to do with the project. I\\''m sure we shall all feel enlightened by your response.\r\n\r\nSynth_Star is obviously not your real name, but going by what you\\''ve written, I think it\\''s obvious who you are. But unlike you, I am not about to mention what I think is your real name, as by doing that, to me anyway, would go against the ethics of this Forum. Apart from that, I could be wrong.\r\n\r\nI found it interesting that you wrote, and I quote "All of us at LCR take extreme exception to Ian\\''s continuous doubting of our commitment and passion towards this project". Then you went onto write, and I quote "it doesn\\''t mean that we don\\''t have vision, commitment, dedication and enthusiasm". \r\n\r\nForgive me for pointing it out, but I couldn\\''t see that word \\''Passion\\'' in your list, but you mentioned it in the first quote in which you alledge that Ian doubts you have it. One might conclude that as you ommitted to mention it in the second quote, that Ian could possibly be right, if that is indeed what he thinks.\r\n\r\nThat said, let us not forget that a community radio station for Llandudno is long overdue, and when it arrives, the whole community will experience an entirely new and exciting format of radio. One that will reach into every home in the community and become a part of our everyday life. \r\n\r\nIt will reach into the very core of our society and bring about a platform whereby the whole community can get involved and help to bring about change for the better for generations to come within our town and surrounding area.\r\n\r\nRun properly, and with the focus on that word \\''Community\\'', it can outshine any other radio station receivable in the area. The possibilities are only limited by imagination, and the will and the want to bring to the project time, effort and hard work by all involved, be they members of the board or volunteers (which the Board are). For each are just as important as the other.\r\n\r\nCommunication is the key, but I\\''m sure that, like me, the community would like to have and see more communication coming their way from everyone involved in bringing the project about. We need to know what\\''s going on, how far have you got, what are the timescales, where are your community presentations taking place, where can we attend open days/evenings to find out more about how we can volunteer and play our part?\r\n\r\nWaiting for something to happen before doing something is being \\''reactive\\'' and can lead to failure. The key word is \\''Proactive\\'', that often leads to success. Remember \\''He who hesitates\\''.\r\n\r\nCould it be that Ian, through his knowledge of the project and what\\''s gone before, is trying to push the Directors into doing the work that, not he, but the project, by it\\''s very nature, demands? Further, that it could well be his all consuming passion for the project that motivates him to keep pushing, and not, as Synth_Star suggests, that he is, quote "trying to undermine our hard efforts, making people think that they want to leave because of the aggravation
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Re: Llandudno Local Posts
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2011, 04:17:06 PM »
(2400, 'Could you please clarify a little. Llandudno Beach Team doesnt ring a bell at the moment, do you mean the guys who put the deck chairs out? or perhaps the United Beach Mission who do the religious services on the beach? or perhaps someone else? Not quite sure who you mean.'),
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Another \\''Ghetto blaster\\'' dude from the 80\\''s that springs to mind was Luigi from St Andrew\\''s Place. Luigi used to walk around town carrying his, whilst blasting out Reggae music. Every so often, if a song came on that he would like, he would point to his stereo and say "Checkeeeeeeeet" in his best Jamaican accent.\r\nWhen the \\''90\\''s came around Luigi would often be found at the edge of the dancefloor at Boulevards, boppin to Chaka Demus & Pliers, whilst knocking back tins of Jamaican Red Stripe lager.
\r\n\r\nHe was also prone to saying he supported \\''man cita\\'' with Oasis style accent.'),
(11139, 'Spooky! Perhaps you were all hidin.'),
(2402, 'Well they all wore red and I think they were affiliated to the church, but they didn\\''t hold services as such.  It was more fun activities for the kids like drama and drawing competitions.  Parents were more than happy just to leave their kids there while they went for a stroll up the promenade.  I first came across them when I was 10 in 1998, and they were there for a few years after - maybe they\\''ve moved on.  They weren\\''t exclusive to Llandudno though, i remember them saying they did the same sort of thing over in Belgium and other places.\r\n\r\nThey had a profound effect on me though!'),
(2403, 'I must say on the matter of email addresses, I dont particularly like emailing forms etc as you dont know who the email gets to, I do prefer to have a choice of contacts within a particular organisation especially if the email is of a sensitive or confidential nature concerning my group affairs.\r\n\r\nAlso getting back to my point of getting younger people onboard etc and my view that your group is mostly run by older people, you then go on to say that everyone has the trade skills needed to get this thing off the ground, but what about everyday people, people that arent high and mighty, real people with true love, interests and a commitment toward the heart of promoting the community, to me these people would be worth far more, I know the skills have to be there, but it shouldnt stop there.'),
(2404, 'Gerald, was it the same type of mouse you buy in petshops?'),
(2405, 'lol, now I thought I was the youngest member in this group here, well at 23 i\\''m now beaten by a 17 year old I think.\r\n\r\nI think you may be on about the United Beach Mission who are located each year (I think) near the lifeboat slipway and jetty (the pier entrance end of the promenade), they all wear red t-shirts and they have a pin up board which they place the hyms on, the hyms are played with an accordian right? They play games too.\r\n\r\nReligious beach missions have been going for many years in Llandudno and are almost somewhat a tradition in itself i\\''d say. I\\''ll get an earlier photo up of a religious childrens service tomorrow held on the promenade around 1905.\r\n\r\nThanks for sharing that with us Retout, feel free to share any memories you have, young or old, and welcome to the forum.'),
(2406, 'The United Beach Mission tell the Christian Faith, I have posted a link to their website for anyone who\\''d like to give them a visit.\r\n\r\nLINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login'),
(2407, 'Yeah that\\''s them!  Going to that link stirred some memories I can tell you.  Yes, they were near the lifeboat strip and we\\''d all sit on the steps.  It\\''s good to see they\\''re still going.  I think my dad was quite literally thanking God for their existence!  On subsequent visits though I felt I was a little too old to get involved again however much fun I had.  Thanks for looking into that!\r\n\r\nI\\''m 19 in October so I think my dates might be a bit out.  I think it was probably a few months before my 10th birthday in 98 when I saw them.  Honoured to perhaps break a record anyway!'),
(2408, 'Well they do have shows during summer evenings for adults to join in, I dont know for 100% sure they are still going, one of our other members should be able to verify if they were there last year, I do remember them there in recent years though. I have also been in touch with the UBM to try get them in touch and tell us a little history about their events here in Llandudno.\r\n\r\nI noticed your from Derbyshire and perhaps not everything in this forum will be of interest to you, but I would like to invite you to perhaps the \\''Debates Lobby\\'' as a visitor to Llandudno (if im right) you may be able to share your thoughts on debates and issues in our town from an outside perspective.\r\n\r\nAlso feel free to share comments in our feedback section of the website, if there is anything you\\''d like to see on the website. Also theres a section in the Historians Hangout called \\''how much do you love Llandudno\\'' do tell us! We are all very passionate about our hometown here and we like to exlore the memories, thoughts of views of everyone, locals and beyond.'),
(2409, 'For the forum a fact I found on their website which I never knew myself... \\''Llandudno, where UBM started, has a great open-air preaching opportunity, where the team organise nightly community hymn singing for the public prom. It is not at all unusual to see a crowd of over 100 adults gather and listen on a warm summer evening as the gospel is clearly presented, and many will come forward asking for literature or further help to find the Saviour\\''.'),
(11140, 'Looks like I\\''ll have to get myself a "Snowy" wig to impress wifey. I remember until recently Snowy was a good squash player don\\''t know if he\\''s still going.\r\nCheers\r\nDerek'),
(11141, 'There were four boys and four girls. These were Robert Luther (who carried on with the building business and who was sometimes known as \\''Mad Luther\\''), Llew, who became Chief Engineer of the Queen Mary, Berwyn and Tydwal. The four sisters were Mfanwy (my grandmother), Miriam, Eunice and Gwen. My Grandmother married David Owen Roberts who owned a gents outfitters in Craigydon - the shop is now The Ham Bone. My father, Eirion, died in 1997. His brother and the only survivor on this list, my uncle Meiwyn, ran the Wool Post in Llandudno until he retired. He lives in Conway Road. His son (my cousin) Mark, runs Bodafon Farm Park.\r\nLuther\\''s son Cledwyn took over the building business but by then it was a much smaller outfit, mainly concerned with small domestic building jobs. \r\nThat\\''s enough about my family I think!'),
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For the forum a fact I found on their website which I never knew myself... \\''Llandudno, where UBM started, has a great open-air preaching opportunity, where the team organise nightly community hymn singing for the public prom. It is not at all unusual to see a crowd of over 100 adults gather and listen on a warm summer evening as the gospel is clearly presented, and many will come forward asking for literature or further help to find the Saviour\\''.
\r\n\r\nWell I never knew they started here, I know they do their stuff all over wales. I must admit, its good entertainment, not my thing, but I have met a couple of nice people connected with with them all those summers ago.'),
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Gerald, was it the same type of mouse you buy in petshops?
\r\n\r\nno these were wild.....lol'),
(2413, 'THE LLANDUDNO ENTHUSIAST FORUM, \r\nMEMORIES MADE FROM NON-RENEWABLE SOURCES, \r\nLETS NOT PUT THEM TO WASTE!\r\n\r\nHi Hat used to produce a lot of waste, back in them days, recycling wasnt heard of pretty much or if the bin was full, one of my inaugral jobs which I monopolised was to take away the excess refuse to the dump in a banger of an old Bedford Ice Cream Hi Hat Van. I used to have a hell of a time driving across the this massive plain where there were mounds of rubbish. It wasnt unusual for my van or any other vehicle in fact to get stuck in one of the many pot holes around as the ground was literally sinking in. On one occasion I fell so deep water was seeping into the vehicle, great fun :D\r\n\r\nI think how the dump came about, was in Llandudno\\''s early days clay was dug from the area for the brick works, this left a massive hole, and the powers to be must have thought it was a good idea to fill it in with refuse!\r\n\r\nMany thanks, Richard Sutton,\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(2414, 'Oh Yes `The Dump` i remember it well.\r\nI`m not sure when it started, but i always remember being in use from  the 50`s up until it closed in ,i think it was in the 70`s.\r\nAt that time i was, through no fault of my own, on the dole & desparate for a job.\r\nAt that time the so called Job creation had started ,so i ended up working for the council on one of these magnificent schemes.\r\nThe job was on the dump which had by now been closed & flattened.\r\nThere was 6 of us & our job was to go around collecting all the big stones & smaller stones & put them in piles until a tractor came to shift them, & carry on doing this, untill we eventually ended up carrying buckets about collecting even smaller stones (We had to sign for the buckets in case we pinched them), all we needed really was a sheriff with mirrored sunglasses & a rifle, & a man with a water bucket & ladle watching over us.\r\nAll this was in the winter, & it was freezing out there in the open.\r\nAt the time there was the the remains of the old crusher that they had by the main gate ,so to keep warm we used to keep tearing bits off it to make a fire. One morning we were standing round this blazing pile we`d made,when one of the bosses turned up,(in his warm van of course)\r\nhe thought that we had collected all this old wood as rubbish from around the tip & duly congratulated us on being so consciencious.\r\nNo health & safety there.\r\nI could go on about our other exploits with the council on our job creation time, but i`ll  get back on that one.'),
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I remember watching it burn and still have the pictures.\r\n\r\nOne memory I have was watching a local shop keeper crying whilst watching the place go up in flames. He wasn\\''t crying because he was upset at ASDA burning down, he was crying because he was happy as he knew it would take several months to rebuild ASDA, and as a result his long established local family business would survive that bit longer.\r\n\r\nHis business closed down not long after ASDA reopened.
\r\n\r\nI remember being in Liverpool at the time, staying for the summer holidays at my grans.  It was very sad for our family, both my sister and my mum worked there, my sister was due to get married and it was a massive worry to her losing her job.  When me and my brother came back to llandudno on the coach, it was a dreadful upsetting sight. Asda was good to the staff though, constantly phoning them when job vacancies came up around town. Some places like Boots even created vacancies to help out. So many checkout girls lost their jobs, wasn`t like today with limited staff. All the checkouts were filled, no such thing as queue busters back then.'),
(2416, 'I remember as kids when we were always on the prom in the summer,we used to watch the beach mission sometimes. They always called themselves \\''auntie\\'' or \\''uncle\\''. To be fare though they always got a crowd.'),
(2651, 'I have asked the UBM to see if one of their representatives could join the forum and tell us a little history or their traditions at Llandudno and perhaps give us an insight into the UBM. I\\''d like us all to give a warm welcome to new forum member \\''Graham Kneale\\'' from the UBM who\\''ll be making a post soon.'),
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Another \\''Ghetto blaster\\'' dude from the 80\\''s that springs to mind was Luigi from St Andrew\\''s Place. Luigi used to walk around town carrying his, whilst blasting out Reggae music. Every so often, if a song came on that he would like, he would point to his stereo and say "Checkeeeeeeeet" in his best Jamaican accent.\r\nWhen the \\''90\\''s came around Luigi would often be found at the edge of the dancefloor at Boulevards, boppin to Chaka Demus & Pliers, whilst knocking back tins of Jamaican Red Stripe lager.
\r\n\r\nHe was also prone to saying he supported \\''man cita\\'' with Oasis style accent.
\r\n\r\nThat\\''s right  - I\\''d forgotten about that \\''quirk\\'' of his. His parents were co-partners with \\''Otties\\'' parents at the Bedford Hotel.'),
(11143, '"No officer, it wasn\\''t me.......must have been that Dudley chap"  :)'),
(11144, 'Regarding the Viking (anything goes bar) Egg, I was wondering how it err.......got it\\''s name The Viking Buttery?  :shock:'),
(11145, 'Ha ha. I have no idea but I\\''m sure it was quite innocent - unlike some downtown LA madhouse.\r\n\r\nI\\''d completely forgotten the Buttery bit. I still don\\''t remember it as part of the Viking name but just a forgotten name that you\\''ve now given a home to.\r\n\r\nThe characters in that place were unbelievable. Does anyone remember Poodle? Or, dare I say it, Linda Bins?'),
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"No officer, it wasn\\''t me.......must have been that Dudley chap"  :)
its mike paddock he used to be called mike dudley :lol:'),
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Sr Martin was from Barbados, there was Sr Aideen, and also Sr Imelda who had a great singing voice.
\r\n\r\nSr Martin has been teaching music in Liverpool, she has also often done work abroad for the convent still. She doesn`t seem to have aged at all, and still had that massive smile and rosey cheeks. Sr Imelda, ah yes, unmistakable singing voice. Something all the nuns seem to possess, due to the the amount of practice.
\r\n\r\nRosey cheeks on Sr Martin Gerald? Don\\''t you think her skin is a little too dark for that?
\r\n\r\nNot at all, still possible :-P'),
(2420, 'Does anyone have any photos from Lloyd St primary school?\r\nI have a class photo taken around 1970 which I\\''ll try to upload tomorrow. Also, any photos from Ysgol John Bright (Trinity Ave or Oxford Rd)?\r\n\r\nI\\''d also just like to say thanks for a fantastic website. I\\''ve been browsing through the posts for about 2 hours now and it is bringing back so many memories.'),
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Does anyone have any photos from Lloyd St primary school?\r\nI have a class photo taken around 1970 which I\\''ll try to upload tomorrow. Also, any photos from Ysgol John Bright (Trinity Ave or Oxford Rd)?\r\n\r\nI\\''d also just like to say thanks for a fantastic website. I\\''ve been browsing through the posts for about 2 hours now and it is bringing back so many memories.
\r\n\r\nThanks seejay01462 for your kind comments, would you be kind enough to email the photos high res to my email account at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login i\\''ll add these photos to the \\''School Photos section of our forum, unfortunately its a locked topic so its kept nice and tidy, any reminiscing on the photos will be carried out in this thread. My documentary photographer did document the entire John Bright School building before it was demolished, the work is yet to be shown at a later date. To view the present school photos, click the following web link, this is where your photos will be displayed.\r\n\r\nLINK: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login),
(2423, 'I first arrived in Llandudno in the Summer of 1998 and had the rather novel experience of staying at the Loreto centre on Abbey Road.  I don\\''t mean to sound melodramatic but I think this was a major event in my life - Llandudno put me under her spell and it\\''s been hard to stay away.  I stayed every summer in the same place for 8 consecutive years and I can honestly say my happiest childhood memories all stem from here.  I hate to think of myself as a tourist even though it\\''s probably what I am, but I consider Llandudno a spiritual home.  My dad used to come during some Januarys as well - I would have loved to come also but I was stuck in school. I hope to get down there a few times during my breaks after I start uni.\r\n\r\nI love to just walk up the Orme spontaneously which I would do if my dad planned to stay in a bookshop for the afternoon - and I found music from my mp3 player just sounded better when I was making the ascent - especially my leonard cohen albums for some reason!  So yeah, I love Llandudno a lot.  :)'),
(11148, 'You don\\''t mean Linda \\''Big-Nig\\'' from the Tre Creuddyn estate? Always wore a red nylon bomber jacket, halfway up her back.'),
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"No officer, it wasn\\''t me.......must have been that Dudley chap"  :)
its mike paddock he used to be called mike dudley :lol:
\r\n\r\n :o He\\''ll always be Dudley to us though.'),
(2425, 'An image that still haunts me is when I saw a large seagull swallow a smaller bird on the promenade.  It was horrific!  I could hear the poor thing squeaking as it went down into the abyss.  I think the gull got annoyed when the bird went for a chip that was thrown.  Terrifying.'),
(2426, 'My Mum was born in Llandudno in 1911; I was born in Llandudno March 1946.\r\n\r\nAs a child I can remember my Mum recounting the sinking of the Royal Navy submarine \\''HMS Thetis\\'' off the Great Orme\\''s head.\r\nBut I can\\''t place exactly when in time this disater took place.\r\n\r\nI think it might have been reported as having taken place in Liverpool Bay - the Great Orme marking the SW limit of this bay.\r\n\r\nI imagine that it took place in the last days of WWII - or very soon after.\r\n\r\nIf my memory has served me correctly - HMS Thetis was on final Acceptance Trials, before hand over to the RN, having been built at Camell Lairds, Birkenhead, and had a full complement of crew plus some shipbuilder\\''s represenatives.\r\n\r\nSometime later it was realised that her return was overdue - and search vessels were sent out.\r\n(Including Llandudno Lifeboat perhaps?)\r\n\r\nAnd was eventually discovered with her aft end sticking up and breaking the surface some miles off the Great Orme - but within sight from shore (my Mum saying that she could remember seeing it from the Marine Drive).\r\n\r\nAttempts were made to rescue all on board - but if I remember my Mum\\''s story correctly, none were saved.\r\n\r\nThe subsequent Board of Enquiry found that (at least one of) the forward torpedo tubes had both inner AND outer doors open - at the same time; thus flooding the forward section.\r\nSomething that the design of the door interlocks was supposed to prevent.\r\nHence it had gone nose down to the sea floor; and had been unable to extricate itself.  And also unable to radio (underwater) it\\''s predicament.\r\n\r\nIt was found that the mechanism designed to prevent both inner and outer doors being opened at the same time had been jammed by paint - obviuosly when being built in the ship yard.\r\n\r\nThe Board recommended that from then on all new submarines had to undergo torpedo door trials when in a flooded dry dock only - and not, for the first time, when at sea.\r\nThat rule is adhered to today - even for the \\''Nukes\\''.\r\n\r\nAny way - I could do a Google to find more accurate information - but wondered if there\\''s any one out there to whom this is a living memory - to correct or add to this post?'),
(2427, 'Hi Mike,\r\nNot a "living" memory i\\''m afraid but there were apparently four people who were saved from this awful event.\r\nWill this help ?\r\n\r\nhttp://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/6680/subs.htm'),
(2428, 'Having had my icecream swiped by one of these winged monsters whilst on the pier, I have to say they are not one of my favourite things about Llandudno.\r\n\r\nI\\''d only just bought it, and noone, but noone takes my grub without permission  :lol:'),
(2429, 'Nope but I did live in Solihull, which was pedestrianised in the 1990\\''s, can\\''t remember exactly when.\r\nIts worked out really well there, mind you there are numerous multi storey car parks and also plenty of places where you can park without paying for a limited amount of time.\r\nIt was blissful when they finally finished it all, so easy to get a parking space, and much nicer to roam around the town centre, without having to dodge manic traffic.'),
(2430, '1939 On 1 June, 99 lives were lost in a submarine disaster in Liverpool Bay when HM Submarine Thetis dived whilst on trials. Only four escaped. Llandudno lifeboat took out a doctor to the destroyer Somali, which was helping with the salvage operation.\r\n\r\nKate fancy a trip down to the library to look at the local paper micro-films for the dates around the 1st June 1939 see if we can get a print to put up on the website? Something will have been published indefinately.\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2431, 'Ooh you don\\''t ask for much do you  :lol: \r\n\r\nCourse I will, consider it done.'),
(2432, 'Anyone who\\''s not posted here, please tell us how you found out about our website, we need your feedback.'),
(2433, 'I found a link at the bottom of the Llandudno wikipedia article.'),
(2434, 'Llandudno has had its fair share of famous visitors, including many of the Royal Family, both past and present. Not to forget to mention the numerous celebrities including most notably the Beatles back in the 60\\''s! Perhaps you\\''ve met or spotted someone in town or in a shop, or maybe you run your own shop or hotel and they\\''ve paid you a visit. Well we want to know your tales, do tell... :)\r\n\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.'),
(2435, 'Well i\\''ll go first, spotted Les Battersby (Bruce Jones) of Coronation Street walking along Conwy Quay, a bit out of town I know lol. Also I remember seeing David Bellamy the Gardener outside the conference centre being filmed when I was about 12. I kept running back and forth on my bike to make sure I got on HTV Wales, I think they started to get a bit annoyed then they ended up moving the camera (chuckles).\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2436, 'That\\''s weird - I also had a run in with David Bellamy when I was about 12.  It was in Northumberland so totally not relevant - so I\\''ll shut up now.  \r\n\r\nActually, is it true Cliff Richard has a place on the Orme?  And I know for a FACT Vernon Kaye\\''s parents live on the Orme.'),
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That\\''s weird - I also had a run in with David Bellamy when I was about 12.  It was in Northumberland so totally not relevant - so I\\''ll shut up now.  \r\n\r\nActually, is it true Cliff Richard has a place on the Orme?  And I know for a FACT Vernon Kaye\\''s parents live on the Orme.
\r\n\r\nlol, weird coincidence. Not sure about Cliff, i\\''ll put it to the forum, anyone???\r\n\r\nYou\\''ve just sparked a few more memories actually, grew up in the same class as Neville Southalls (Everton FC) neice, and again just a year above me, Mel C (Spice Girls) for many years unknown sister Emma who up until a few years lived just down the road from me. I\\''ll keep scratching my head think of anymore :D\r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2438, 'P.S. does anyone want my autograph before or after i\\''m famous? LOL.  :lol: \r\n\r\nCraig.'),
(2439, 'Hi Gerald,\r\nYes ASDA did, at that time, look after their staff. When I was a student I worked there for approx. 2 years and had no complaints. Indeed, I asked my manager (A Worrad) to re-locate me to London. She managed it (bless her) but  I let her down by going off to a proper job 3 months later. ASDA in the 80\\''s is not the same thing as ASDA bloody Walmart in the noughties.'),
(2440, 'Hi Retout, what is Loreto used for now, i went to school there like many others on the forum and often wonder what goes on there now , is it split into 2 parts? are there nuns still living there ?'),
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Actually, is it true Cliff Richard has a place on the Orme?
\r\n\r\nThis and the thread on the UBM reminds me that I was convinced that Cliff was one of the UBM "Uncles" back in about 1972/3. There was an "Uncle Keith, a medical student from London" who was the spitting image of Cliff Richard and sounded like him when he spoke. He only sang when they got together as a big group at the end of the show, and stayed more or less in the background in amongst the crowd! I\\''d love to know if I was right, or was it just wishful thinking. There were a few of us teenage girls who would tease him about the resemblance!'),
(2442, 'hi, whilst working in the Grand in the seventies we had Warren Clarke (Denzil and Pascoe now) staying and filming with the rest of the cast of a t.v. programme they were making cant remember if it was a film or series (30 years ago!) but it was so exciting watching the behind the scenes and they threw us a great end of filming party. There was also another guy i it .famous at the time cant for the life of me remember his name he was also in another programme think it was called Man at the Top or something like that.'),
(2443, 'hi, the best place to see seagulls swooping down and stealing peoples food is around Gerards cafe,  Kate, how long have you lived here? dont you know its a no-go to eat food in the street in LLandudno now? LOL'),
(2444, 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login\r\nc1972/73 - Lloyd Street Primary School, Llandudno\r\n\r\nTO SHARE MEMORIES OF THIS PHOTO OR YOUR OLD SCHOOL CLICK THE FOLLOWING WEB LINK:\r\nhttp://www.olle.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=176&sid=94082fbe6a623e4263848da035119931'),
(2446, 'I\\''m so jealous you got to go to school there!  What was that like??  It is still split up into two parts.  The nuns still live in the right hand building.  The middle part is the retreat centre, where I spent most of my time.  Groups can go there and get use of a conference room, tv room, kitchen and the chapel.  The nuns will even cook them meals.  In the left building is the Tudno block, where it was no secret the best accommodation was kept!  I was lucky enough to reach this pinnacle in about the  7th year of staying there.  And there\\''s also the main hall which I think can be booked for any event.  I\\''ve seen a bridge club play in there.  I\\''ve also seen a private tai chi lesson take place in the garden next to Tudno, so quite a dynamic building really.  I don\\''t suppose Sister Brigid was around when you were there was she?  She was quite an iconic figure in my time there.'),
(2447, 'You may find this link useful...\r\n\r\nhttp://www.loretollno.org.uk/'),
(2448, 'I found this on an article about the summit complex being sold:\r\n\r\n\\''The lighthouse, on the Great Orme Head, Llandudno, has been put on the market by owner John Callin for pounds 575,000.\r\n\r\nLocated just above what is colloquially known as Millionaires Row the Grade Two listed building could add to the list of wealthy celebrities with homes in the resort.\r\n\r\nManchester United chairman Martin Edwards and singer Cliff Richard already have homes in the area.\\''\r\n\r\nThe article is from 2002, so I don\\''t know whether it\\''s still relevant.'),
(2449, 'I\\''ve seen Mel C from the Spice Girls and Bernard Sumner from New Order on the pier, although not at the same time I should point out!\r\n\r\nSC'),
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Hi Gerald,\r\nYes ASDA did, at that time, look after their staff. When I was a student I worked there for approx. 2 years and had no complaints. Indeed, I asked my manager (A Worrad) to re-locate me to London. She managed it (bless her) but  I let her down by going off to a proper job 3 months later. ASDA in the 80\\''s is not the same thing as ASDA bloody Walmart in the noughties.
\r\n\r\nDefinitely, I know many Asda employees, ex and present who tell of a totally different style of management, some for, and some against. But then again. New management styles are all over the UK. There are so many policies created for this, that and the other, that staff can be forgotton on a personal level.'),
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I\\''m so jealous you got to go to school there!  What was that like??  It is still split up into two parts.  The nuns still live in the right hand building.  The middle part is the retreat centre, where I spent most of my time.  Groups can go there and get use of a conference room, tv room, kitchen and the chapel.  The nuns will even cook them meals.  In the left building is the Tudno block, where it was no secret the best accommodation was kept!  I was lucky enough to reach this pinnacle in about the  7th year of staying there.  And there\\''s also the main hall which I think can be booked for any event.  I\\''ve seen a bridge club play in there.  I\\''ve also seen a private tai chi lesson take place in the garden next to Tudno, so quite a dynamic building really.  I don\\''t suppose Sister Brigid was around when you were there was she?  She was quite an iconic figure in my time there.
\r\n\r\nI worked in the Loreto Sisters convent  building, cooking supper for the nuns and any visitors that came for respite. The Main retreat centre, which is the old school and the rear connecting building, is run by Sr Bridget, she would have her meals with the rest of the sisters in the main convent building. I think of all of the sisters as an extended family, they had loads of interesting stories, and the work they still do, would put a lot of people to shame. I was also able to meet previous teaching sisters who had taught myself and my brothers and sister in the past.  The building that I knew as the Head masters office etc when I was in school, is now known as Ethiniog House, its where Archives are kept, and another group of sisters live there seperately.  Kitchens  for the main school buildings for retreats etc are in the buildings at the rear of the school block with their own catering staff. Presently where the school fields were, St Davids Hospice stands. The centre still has small pleasant gardens, home grown veg and floral. The nuns have their own, very basic laundry where a lot of hard work is done. I was talking to the sisters the other week, and they said that there is an old girls reunion, I think this week. That is of course, when it was a girls school.'),
(2452, 'Cliff Richard doesnt have a house on the Marine Drive Martin Edwards does.'),
(2453, 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nI don\\''t think Cliff Richard has a place on The Great Orme. I know he did have a house somewhere outside Betws for many years, but a scandal involving his caretaker growing cannabis in the garden there forced him to sell it. Cliff went out with Sue Barker for 12 months, she was unseeded that year  :roll: \r\n\r\nI met Sally Whittaker (plays Sally Webster in Coronation Street) on the promenade once. She was walking with her nanny and pushing one of her children in a buggy. They were filming on a caravan site in Conwy at the time for a particular episode. She was very nice and happy to chat.\r\n\r\nRobson Green stayed in Llandudno once whilst filming in the area. He stayed at the Imperial and there was an article in the North Wales Weekly News.\r\n\r\nFamous author Chris Williams is a regular visitor and can often be seen around the town. Craig and Sarah bumped into him several times during the extravaganza weekend  :lol:'),
(2454, 'Blatant Advertising! lol  :)'),
(2455, 'Blatant humour    :lol:  :lol:  :lol: !'),
(2456, 'Yeah I know, twas funny.  I am actually compelled to experience one of these books, now.'),
(2457, 'hi Retout, I attended Loreto when it was no longer a convent and had become a middle school about 1970, the idea was to start off as a middle school (leave  Stella maris around 9 years old, attend Loreto for 4 years then off the John Brights about 13 years old) but to eventually become a secondary school where you would stay till leaving school at 16. However this never happened due to the attendances never reaching the expectations (i think) and the school closed altogether after so many years. A shame as i remember the priests  and nuns at the time looking  greatly   forward to having a Catholic secondry school here and being really excited about this happening. My year was the 1st  to move from Stella Maris, we had a great time there, what a place it was, we would try and sneak off and explore, we found endless corridors, dormetries, summer houses, huge gardens even had its own chapel. The nuns that that taught us were Sister Margaret strict but fair, Sister (cant remember now taught us French) - she was lovely and Mother Superior woe betide if you crossed her she was from the old convent, and Sister Aideen the headmistress. Happy memories yes!'),
(2462, 'hi, hubby remembers his friends father telling his son a story of seeing part of the submarine sticking out of the water in the distance.'),
(2463, 'My OH bumped into Alec Gilroy-- Roy Barraclough--- in the Victoria Centre a couple of years ago.'),
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I hate to think of myself as a tourist even though it\\''s probably what I am, but I consider Llandudno a spiritual home.
\r\n\r\nThink not yourself as a tourist Rètout, you are in fact a Llandudno Enthusiast you\\''ve found the right place! :D'),
(2465, 'Given the fact that there are so many stars and superstars appearing at the North Wales Theatre these days, sorry Venue Cymru, then I would imagine they are always going to have a wander onto the prom or into town.'),
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\\''The lighthouse, on the Great Orme Head, Llandudno, has been put on the market by owner John Callin for pounds 575,000.
\r\nJohn sold and moved out a couple of years ago.\r\n\r\nSomeone recently informed me that the new owners have recently taken over the running of the \\''Rest and be Thankful\\'' cafe up above them.\r\n\r\nI don\\''t know how true that is.'),
(2459, 'just remembered i think she was called Sister Michael!'),
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iv never liked the conwy market. the market stall owners always used to give me funny looks and that put me right off it!  :x
\r\n\r\nMaybe it considered itself a local market, for local people, to buy local things......lol  Jokes aside, I suppose that is exactly what it was, and when the locals start shopping elsewhere, ie. Tesco, then sellers loose out.'),
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just remembered i think she was called Sister Michael!
\r\n\r\nSr Michael has now reverted back to her own name, and is known as Sr Ellen Breen.  She is a lovely lady, and to me, she hasn`t changed one bit. I had the pleasure of cooking for her when she came visiting the sisters on retreat.   She had many stories to tell, and still has a good sense of humour.'),
(2467, 'i usually park in the retail park where homebase and them are.\r\nonly once have i been there over the weekend and never again! took 30 min just to leave the car park  :x'),
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Famous author Chris Williams is a regular visitor and can often be seen around the town. Craig and Sarah bumped into him several times during the extravaganza weekend  :lol:
\r\n\r\nYes very true folks, I have been personally acquainted. Met in Burger King, the Cottage Loaf, on the tour boat on the promenade and even on Bodafon Fields. At one point he thought we was stalking him!  :lol: I thought it was the other way around to be honest! lol.\r\n\r\nIf anyone wants a copy of his e-book \\''Stories of Rhys - Book 1 \\''The Great Orme\\'' visit You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, you\\''ll love it!'),
(2469, 'should Mostyn street be pedestrianised?\r\n\r\nYES!'),
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Hello everyone,\r\n\r\nIf you are in need of a toilet on the prom, there are toilets in the ammusement arcade at the start of the pier.\r\n\r\nLove, Pennymook
\r\n\r\nand what about in winter when it is closed?  :o');
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(2471, 'I saw the " Two Fat Ladies" famous cooks Jennifer Paterson and Clarissa Dickson Wright, riding through mostyn street on their motorbike, they were filming in the Llandudno Lighthouse, Kevin Rowland and Dexys Midnight Runners, seen them in wintergardens, then around town after the show.  Mike Peters of th eAlarm, many times, nice bloke mike. There`s Don Estelle, he was a pain, I worked as a porter in Gogarth Abbey Hotel, He used to make me carry all his record cases back and forth  from from his car to his room on the second floor(no lift), every morning and then evening when he came back from his appearance in Woolworths. The fact he kept on bringing a load back spoke volumes.....lol  Theres a british tv actor looks similar to Richard Maddeley  something like british richard chavers, can anyone confirm that? Footballers, Neville Southall, Ian Rush, Mickey Thomas, Best person was not quite in Llandudno but I have to mention, it was in Bangor, and it was  Angelina Jolie, she is so short, but without a doubt so beautiful, very polite too, she was with her son maddox and some gorilla of a minder. Cant go into detail but there you go. Saw Jack Howarth- Albert Tatlock of Corrie, he lived in Deganway, and played Ken Barlows uncle. I saw Linda Lusardi and her husband, also an actor shopping in Llandudno Asda. Paul Jones, bass guitarist with Catatonia was at my wedding. Of course there was Liz and Phil, then later Charles and Di.  When Liz and Phil came to town, I was 12, we were in the middle of moving house, so when the royals came cruising down mostyn street I was sat in an armchair on top of an open top lorry surrounded by lots of furniture, it looked like a scene from the "Beverley Hillbillies".  Will possibly remember others as the night goes on.'),
(2472, 'iv never liked the conwy market. the market stall owners always used to give me funny looks and that put me right off it!  :x'),
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ALIEN abductions are generally considered the stuff of legend, Hollywood, and conspiracy theories. However the Great Orme has been named as one of Britain\\''s top places for extra-terrestrial kidnappings (not sure whether its people or goats), making the Llandudno beauty spot the UK\\''s third most likely spot to witness a close encounter of the space kind.\r\n\r\nHave any our members heard or seen of anything? We want to know!\r\n\r\nLlandudno Enthusiasts.
\r\n\r\nWell I have waited long enough to tell this story, short as it may be. But when I was a kid, possibly about 9yrs old, me and mates were all playing out one night, when we noticed a black dot in the sky, it looked like the UFO you used to see on the Gerry Anderson tv series UFO. slightly conical in shape, spinning from little orme to say west shore, then it changed course towards the orme Summit complex then it seemed to hit the skyline of the orme where a ploom of smoke then appeared where it seemed to crash.  Next day, it was in the papers or news, cant remember, that the cable car line had broke or something, resulting in an empty cable car crashing down to earth.  Of course were were only 9ish, active imagination etc, we just filed it in the back of our minds with the other ghosts, UFO`s Aliens and monsters we had seen. BUT I do remember going to school and my mate saying he saw the same thing too from elsewhere in Llandudno'),
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Kate fancy a trip down to the library to look at the local paper micro-films for the dates around the 1st June 1939 see if we can get a print to put up on the website? Something will have been published indefinately.\r\n\r\nCraig.
\r\n\r\nHi Craig and Kate\r\n\r\nPhew!! What a relief!  In that my memory of my Mum\\''s memory was, by and large, correct!\r\nIn truth - the additional info. in my original post about the Board of Enquiry was from my memory alone.\r\nSome time after my Mum having related the basic story to me as a lad; and because I was a frequent user of the Library in Mostyn Street - I had taken the time to look it up in the Reference Library - and remembered the additional info. from circa 1960.\r\n\r\nMany thanx for your corrections of detail.\r\n\r\nRe. looking up newspaper records - I have the following to say.\r\nCraig - I have the impression from other posts of yours that at some time previous that you\\''ve been connected with North Wales Weekly News (no prob. - but am sorry if my suspicion is unfounded!)\r\nHowever - I was a WH Smith\\''s paper round boy for about 4 or so years (say 1959 to 1963).\r\n(There were about 6 of us; of all the early morning paper round newsagents - W H Smiths in Mostyn Street was THE one to have!  Access for the \\''paper boys\\'' was from the back of the shop [can\\''t remember the street!] to a basement area - also the stock room area for the shop.  The daily papers had been collected in bulk for the whole of Llandudno from either Llandudno Railway Station off the early morning \\''Milk Train\\'', or from the station in the Junction - having been dropped off by the London Euston - Holyhead overnight \\''Emerald Isle\\'' express.  The job was a 364 day a year committment.  My round began in Mostyn Street, continued up Trinity Avenue, into Kings Road area, all of the West Shore area, then over Maesdu Bridge [hence my remembering the soft drinks depot there - see another post; the Hospital Flats -as they were known; finishing off at the Railway Cottages [now Marian Place and Road] beside \\''the Dump\\''.  Then I used to cycle home via [can\\''t remember the name of the \\''lane\\'' - but waste ground, over a small wooden bridge over a stream, up the side of the railway line], join tarmac of Builders Street, past the abbatoir on the right, up to the junction with Oxford Street - straight across is the Police Sation - on my right shoulder is the bus maintenance workshop [later to become a tool hire shop and tile wharehouse], left out into Oxford Road, turn left, past the front of the station, back home to \\''Mayfair\\'' Deganwy Avenue, grab some breakfast, get changed, cycle back to JBGS, meet up with current girlfriend, go to school!!)\r\nAny way the point of this prattle is to let you know that in the 1950\\''s and 60\\''s NWWN (came out weekly on a Thursday) wasn\\''t the ONLY local newspaper!!!!\r\nThe more locally focussed \\''Llandudno Advertiser\\'' came out weekly too - on a Saturday!!\r\nSo their records will be worth a check, too.\r\nTheir local office (and I\\''m a bit - no, very, hazy!) was in a back road just off the lower end of Upper Mostyn Street (a small road about 100yds on the right from the roundabout - and just past what was \\''The Llandudno Rock Shop\\'' - which became the \\''No. 8\\'' Rock Shop.\r\n\r\nWhatever happened to the \\''Llandudno Advertiser\\''?  When did it cease publication?\r\nPerhaps the NWWN, with it\\''s wider appeal and circulation survived because the \\''Advertiser\\''\\''s appeal was too limited by way of circulation numbers.\r\n\r\nSorry to have go on!!\r\nPerhaps most of this post belongs on another thread?\r\nI leave it to you to edit/copy/cut as deemed appropriate.'),
(2475, 'Remembered the name now.  Nigel Havers, he so looks like Richard of Richard and Judy.\r\nhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0369814/'),
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Hello everyone,\r\n\r\nIf you are in need of a toilet on the prom, there are toilets in the ammusement arcade at the start of the pier.\r\n\r\nLove, Pennymook
\r\n\r\nand what about in winter when it is closed?  :o
\r\n\r\nThe arcade at the pier entrance is open all year round. A point worth making though is that it\\''s not the responsibility of private businesses to provide public toilets. Surely it\\''s not beyond the council\\''s means to provide clean and tidy public toilets, in return for a 20p fee?\r\n\r\nSC'),
(2477, 'The Theatre traffic cause`s a lot of hassle when there is a show on. They could have done with one extra level of parking. I have also said that instead of Parc Llandudno being a retail park, it should have been a multi storey shopping mall. The parking then would have been either below or above the shops, bit like white rose centre in Rhyl or Colwyn bays shopping centre, even the Trafford centre in Manchester.'),
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Hi Mike,\r\nNot a "living" memory i\\''m afraid but there were apparently four people who were saved from this awful event.\r\nWill this help ?\r\n\r\nhttp://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/6680/subs.htm
\r\n\r\nHMS Thetis was salvaged, and recommissioned as HMS Thunderbolt and lost in March 1943 near Sicily\r\n\r\nI found this site that gives a little more about what happened.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/britsubthetis.html'),
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