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Offline DaveR

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2011, 08:45:59 pm »
sales per week

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2011, 09:43:01 pm »
Thats not lot is it ?, given that there is more than one version of it.  (Colwyn Bay/Abergele, Llandudno etc) 

You would think I have a decent chance of winning the prize crossword then!
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2011, 10:04:54 pm »
Don't forget the North Wales Weekly News and the Daily Post both have on-line versions which could be attributed do dwindling newspaper sales. It would be interesting to see their on-line readership versus their actual newspaper readership.

Having newspapers on-line has been responsible for declining newspaper sales worldwide.

In January, the New York Times started to charge frequent readers who access their website = $$$$

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/business/media/21times.html

Maybe this will become more common in years to come, if the newspaper industry is to survive?




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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2011, 10:11:50 pm »
Is it just me but I think nothing of paying to buy my daily newspapers but I expect online news to be free. I guess because it's been so easily available for so many years the thought of paying to go to a news website seems wrong.
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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2011, 10:14:03 pm »
I almost wonder if the NWWN stopped putting its articles on-line or reduced each one to a 50 word synopsis, it might boost sales of the print edition?

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2011, 10:17:18 pm »
I could never understand the business logic in any News media being available on line for free.

Its like Asda leaving unlimited free food outside, everyday, and having a sign saying...''you can PAY for similar produce inside''

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2011, 10:18:59 pm »
Bit of a Catch 22 situation. If they don't have an online service someone else would provide it but the more they put online the higher the possibility that people will read that and not buy the paper on Thursday.
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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2011, 09:15:29 am »
Interesting story on the launch of a new local newspaper in Wales. We've said before that some of the principle of reader contributed, ultra local news could be applied to boost the ailing Weekly News:


A new paid-for weekly newspaper has launched in Wales bucking the trend of title closures.

The Pembroke and Pembroke Dock Observer is published by the nearby Tenby Observer, part of the Tindle group.

Several weeklies in Wales have closed in recent years, all dailies have seen a fall in circulation and one group has stopped employing street vendors.

A media consultant says Tindle papers are successful because they concentrate on ultra-local community news.

Around 1,500 copies were printed for the first edition of the new title which general manager Andrew Adamson said sold out in several newsagents.

He said the Tenby Observer, which employs 15 staff, had always tried to carry news items submitted by people in Pembroke and Pembroke Dock and the volume of contributions had increased.

"That got us to the point where we started to look if there was a demand for this and we said 'let's provide it and see what happens'," he said.

He said circulation figures of newspapers in Pembrokeshire had held up well compared to many of the other parts of the UK and that had also helped give them the confidence to launch the title.

The whole of the county is served by the Western Telegraph newspaper but Mr Andrews said Pembroke and Pembroke Dock did not have a dedicated title.

"The Western Telegraph is a fantastic paper but it physically cannot cover all the smaller community stories."

He said the Observer also covered the type of "parish pump" stories that could not be found on the internet - which has been blamed in part for the national decline in newspaper sales.

Media consultant Robert Lloyd, a former editor of the Carmarthen Journal and Llanelli Star, said Tindle papers operated differently from those owned by the larger media groups such as Trinity Mirror, Newsquest and his former employer Northcliff.

"Ray Tindle specialises in these very old fashioned small newspapers with sales of between 6,000 to 10,000," he said.

"They are profitable and have a loyal readership because he believes in the old fashioned news principles of names, faces and places.

"They receive a lot of contributions from readers so they operate with a fairly small editorial staff.

"It's all the community life that's fit to print from Mr Jones's death to the local WI to school sports days.

"You read the WI reports and they go into the detail of the flavour of jam they made.

"The larger corporations have distanced themselves a bit from their readers by closing offices, centralising production, cutting editions and I think they are missing a trick."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-14085388

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2011, 02:47:22 pm »
Hi guys, I thought I'd give a few words on the forum as a regular visitor. I am the Pen and Llan reporter for the NWWN, these are some of my personal views.

The future of newspapers is a huge debate in the media world at the moment. Newspaper sales worldwide are dwindling due to the rise is new technology, so it's no surprise that that NWWN is feeling the pressure. However, new technology is also amazing, because it means the face of news is changing dramatically and news is coming from so many more sources (facebook, twitter, forums)

However, I wouldn't say that we are ailing.

We have made numerous efforts throughout the years to highlight local issues, e.g. library closure proposals, the LDP and more. We have also broken many exclusives, including this week's figures for ex-council chief, Byron Davies' trial, which has been picked up by the BBC and others.

Obviously we are also contesting against a Daily paper which produces very good stories and has a great team behind them. However, we have six great reporters working for the paper who have plenty more time to investigate stories and present more in depth facts. We can also focus on the 'hyper local' stories. (check page 2 school file this week). We have a community news section which is also dedicated to coffee mornings, salsa classes etc. People do want to read what's happening down the road.

The Weekly News has a new editor. Linda Roberts has taken over and introduced some new aspects to the paper. In the Spotlight is focusing on well known characters and getting to know them better. We will also

Like Dave says, we would really appreciate your views on what you'd like to see in the paper. This forum is a great way to keep up to date with happenings and what the views of people in Llandudno and elsewhere are. Keep it up! 

Thanks for reading!


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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2011, 04:08:49 pm »
 :( I was glad to see you have a new editor and i sent her an e-mail telling her my thoughts on the paper, you as a reporter know our issues reading them on here but never do anything in the paper, this i find quite weird ,especially as there has been no Llandudno stories for weeks.Why have none of you looked into the issues on this forum and tried to make a story to keep Llandudno readers interested? . :roll:

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2011, 05:06:23 pm »
You and I know, Wrex, - that would just be too easy!   WWW
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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2011, 08:48:40 pm »
Nice to have Rayyan posting on the Forum, I know he does read it very regularly. One thing I'd personally love to see is for the Weekly News to open up its vast archive of photos and news stories going back to the paper's creation. In the 21st Century, there should be no need need for us to have to trundle off to Conwy Archives to search through Microfilm, when every article and photo could be digitised and put online for many more people to use. Think what a valuable resource it would be.  :)

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2011, 09:29:33 am »
 ;) Hello again Parry, i forgot to mention about the extravaganza, for the last 4 years at least your newspaper has completly ignored the event,it just happens to be the biggest event in the area and you ignore it,the whole outfit stinks. :'(

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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2011, 08:09:30 pm »
The whole paper is just filled with tittle tattle.  -  That is,of course, the small space allocated to editorial matter.

I have never seen any publication (except Exchange and Mart) with such a poor relationship between advertising and editorial content.   Without adding up all the column inches devoted to each, I think that the ratio of editorial to advertising is less than 10%.   This results in not enough readers interested in the paper and a very poor readership for any business advertisment.  Extremely poor value for all.  Trinity Mirror deserve whatever happens to them.     :rage:
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Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2011, 10:13:56 pm »
Up until 4 weeks ago, I purchased and read the NWWN avidly, and looked forward to it every Thursday..

But one day, I realised that after reading it from cover to cover, I had learned nothing.
The most interesting page was the Obituaries, and I'm not even from Llandudno originally!

I realised that I didn't care about ensless pages of what kids were doing in schools.
I also got heartily sick of local fundraising efforts, ... noble though they are, they are NOT NEWS.

I have not bought the NWWN for the last month now, and have not missed it at all.
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