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Title: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 04, 2011, 09:36:42 pm
Last Monday we arrived home (a bank holiday) to find even more recycling bags and boxes and a ludicrously complicated system, we looked at it on Tuesday and tried to figure out what went where and er indoors put the stuff in different bags only to realise that the new damned silly system doesn't start yet :rage: :rage: :rage: The side of our bungalow is now stuffed full of plastic boxes, stupid bags that can blow about in the wind when out in the road and it all looks a right mess, so tonight I've decided they can stuff it, we have no actual kitchen waste as we don't eat meat and any uncooked veg etc goes on the compost heap, we can still take plastic to the bottle bank place when having a walk, I can still put paper out, anything else can go in the big grey wheely bin. anyone else find it a stupid system or is it just me being 'Victor Meldrew'?
 $angry$ $angry$ I've previously been in favour of recycling but there are limits!  :o :laugh:
Title: Re: New recycling scheme
Post by: Trojan on June 04, 2011, 10:12:25 pm
Nice to hear some Thoughts of Victor again.  :laugh:
Title: Re: New recycling scheme
Post by: Fester on June 04, 2011, 11:31:34 pm
I completely agree.... I thought it was just us, being thick.

What about people with small pokey cottages, are they supposed to have an entire line of bins and bags outside thier house all year round?

Its getting out of hand... I'm sure we will 'get our eye in' eventually, but the pace and complication of this is getting a bit much.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 11:56:23 am
Apparently the Acting Chief Executive of Conwy County Council, namely one Kenneth Finch, does not see any problems with the forthcoming recycling system.  But then he wouldn't would he?    :rage:

This is a copy letter from someone in the recycling department  which KF whole heartedly endorses.

Refuse and Recycling

Thank you for your letter dated 11th April 2011 regarding our new weekly recycling collections.  As you described in your letter, from June we will collect virtually all your recyclable household waste, every week, including food waste, plastic, cans, drink cartons, cardboard, paper, glass and batteries.  There will be no change to your garden waste collection service or your wheeled refuse bin collection, both of which will continue fortnightly.

Most non-recyclable items can be placed in your wheeled bin for disposal to landfill, with the exception of rubble, soil, plasterboard, any liquids or any hazardous materials such as paint, chemicals, clinical waste  etc.  While electrical items are not specifically prohibited from landfill, we strongly advise that they not be placed in your wheeled bin.  Electrical items are one of the types of waste we are working to find more recycling options for, as described in the responses below to your questions regarding disposal of specific materials.

1.   “DIY leftovers such as plaster, cement, bricks and other similar rubbish.”  The Council does not offer a collection service for DIY waste.  Residents able to carry out DIY work are expected to make their own arrangements to dispose of their construction waste.  Household DIY waste is accepted at the Mochdre Recycling Centre.  If a contractor carries out the work, they must dispose of the waste through a commercial recycling or waste disposal outlet.

2.   “Old fat and cooking oils and car lubricants.” These items are accepted at Mochdre Recycling Centre.  Solid (but not liquid) waste fat can be placed in your wheeled bin.  Car lubricants are hazardous and any resident choosing to change their own car oil at home is responsible for its safe disposal.

3.   “Carpet, clothing and other materials.”  We are currently in a tender process to find a charity or company to carry out textile collections on behalf of the Council.  Details of this service will be provided along with your new recycling calendar, which will be delivered in early June.

4.   “Metals such as old domestic utensils, toasters etc.”  We will be encouraging the successful company or charity carrying out textile collections to also accept small electrical items (broken or working), for which they can receive payment from an appropriate Producer Compliance Scheme.  Proposals to collect general household bric-a-brac of the type that might be taken to a charity shop – books, CD’s, kitchen utensils etc – will also be considered.

5.   “Wooden items and broken furniture.”  The Council offers a bulky household waste collection service, for which there is a charge of £20 for up to four items.  Please call our Environment Advice Team on 01492 575337 to book a collection.

6.   “Items of mixed composition such as old televisions, computers etc.”  Most electrical retailers now offer collection and recycling of your old equipment when purchasing a new item.  Large electrical items can also be included in a bulky household waste collection, as described above.  Many charities or local community organisations also welcome donations of working television and computer equipment and may collect it.

7.   “Electrical items including cables and ceramics.”  As already outlined, we hope to be able offer kerbside collection of small electrical items in the near future.  We are also trialling electrical recycling banks at five locations in the County, but not unfortunately in your area as yet.

8.   “Hazardous items such as car batteries etc.”  The Council does not offer a hazardous waste collection service and hazardous waste is not permitted in your wheeled bin.  Most types of hazardous household waste are accepted at Mochdre Recycling Centre.  Most car battery retailers will recycle your old battery on purchase of a new one.

9.   “Any other unspecified waste.”  All the above waste types and many others not specified are accepted at Mochdre Recycling Centre, where over 80% of waste is recycled.  While we appreciate that not everyone owns a car to be able to access the Recycling Centre, a friend, neighbour or relative may be able to help.

As can be seen from our responses above, we do not have an answer for everything.  It would not be practical or economic for the Council to collect every type of waste, on demand, from every household.  What we will do is keep working to provide the most efficient and cost-effective collection service possible, with the maximum environmental benefit.

  
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 12:47:45 pm
It all seems fairly reasonable to me.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 05, 2011, 01:16:04 pm
and me.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 01:20:35 pm
Except that there are a lot of old people around who are unable to get to the recycling centres and who the Council seem to think should make use of neighbours, relations etc.   Many items that once were acceptable amongst the normal everyday waste are now not catered for such as old materials, small household items and small electrical goods.  This they admit!

Where are the bins and bags expected to be kept, especially if one lives in a small apartment?  Already one person on the Forum has stated his objections to the system.

To my mind it has been ill concieved and badly implemented.  The overall cost is likely to be a lot more than that which will be "saved".

No doubt some people will be happy with the arrangements, some will not - the proof will show in the medium and long term.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Barbiroli on June 05, 2011, 01:42:06 pm
We have been in this scheme for about 2 years now so have got it down to a fine art.

Somebody told me you can`t take your car into the Mochdre recycling place anymore you have to park outside and carry your waste in. Does anybody know if that is true?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 05, 2011, 02:02:55 pm
We have been in this scheme for about 2 years now so have got it down to a fine art.

Somebody told me you can`t take your car into the Mochdre recycling place anymore you have to park outside and carry your waste in. Does anybody know if that is true?

The current scheme I have no problem with, its the new version with extra bags, boxes etc which is getting complicated, for a system to work it needs to be simple.

I've not been to the Mochdre site for around a month, we could drive in then ok, not sure about now, it would seem unworkable if you could not take your car in.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Barbiroli on June 05, 2011, 02:26:20 pm
That`s what i thought.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: JasonW on June 05, 2011, 03:46:55 pm
Been to Mochdre this afternoon, with rubbish from the  Prom Day. Cars are allowed inside, as before. They have more specific areas to put your recyclable waste, so it is an idea to segragate your waste before getting there.
Commercial Vehicles are not allowed, without first applying for permits from the Mochdre Council Offices. Even if you a hire a van/large trailer, you should still obtain a one-off permit before going to the site.

Things will improve with the new roleout of recycling later in the year. We have a new 3 stackable box system with access to each box when stacked. This will replace a lot of the various different bags and boxes we now have. Unfortuately this system will not be with us for a few months.

The scheme on the whole is a nescessary evil, we have to reduce what we send to landfill, if we don't the esculation in landfill tax will have a massive impact on the Council Tax. Finding solutions that require us to reach 70% recycling targets is not easy, and it does require residents to do a lot of the segration. The Council has invested in a new facility at its Gofer site, which will sort the Plastic and the different metal containers, this is already proving succesful as the sorted metal means we can get a better price for certain metals. The recycled paper goes to Shotton Paper Mill, by having this "clean" it again means we get a better price for the material. The sale of all the recyclets then pay for the service, and means the Council Tax implications are minimized.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Barbiroli on June 05, 2011, 05:48:28 pm
Thank you for that JasonW
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on June 05, 2011, 05:54:30 pm
so jason are you saying we are having more boxes soon , after the ones that have just been delivered .
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: white rabbit on June 05, 2011, 06:35:08 pm
I hope we are not getting more boxes and bags after the first delivery - that's enough to cope with and I think it's a load of rubbish anyway!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 05, 2011, 06:52:32 pm
So is that a third system later this year :o  why bother with this second system, why not just go straight to the stackable box system?

How much does this all cost?
How much plastic goes into making the boxes? 
If all this is due to this landfill tax (from the EU I think?) don't tell them how much rubbish goes in to landfill (avoid the tax :laugh:) alternatively just ignore the EU nonsense

And while we are on the subject I still believe that anyone including trade should be able to take their waste to the tip for free, otherwise we get flytipping and then the council (or the landowner)  have to pay to clear it  :rage:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2011, 08:04:10 pm
Been to Mochdre this afternoon, with rubbish from the  Prom Day.


Isn't the tip for domestic waste only?  Is this not commercial waste?

The system regarding vans at the tip is ridiculous, I've got a sign written van which can not go to the tip under any circumstances.  It has my name, phone number and the fact I'm a plumber on the side.  Why can't I take a mattress to the tip then?  Its got nothing to do with my trade and is simply from my house.  If I had a non sign written van I could get a pass and take it.  No wonder fly tipping is on the increase.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 05, 2011, 09:14:28 pm
Haven't got ours yet, but an elderly friend and I were exploring her 'delivery' of bags, boxes and other junk.
How many people use enough batteries to fill a bag?
Can you imagine the state of the white bag after a few weeks with some people? Stinky  bits left in containers, local cats leaving their calling card, not to mention the birds splatting on everything. At least the green boxes were scrubbable.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 09:46:30 pm
You are also likely to get the Seagulls at everything together with Mice, Rats, the Urban Fox and any other foraging animal once they discover what is being left out for them overnight!   Add to this what the community yobs are likely to get up to and it is a receipe for disaster.  A lid on a small bin won't keep some of them out and the bags will be torn apart in no time.    ££$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: TheMedz on June 05, 2011, 09:49:01 pm
I'm sure I'll get a load of comments back about this but hey ho!Sorry if this goes against the flow but I see the new measures as providing a weekly rather than fortnigthly collection of some items such as bottles. A means of recycling plastic bottles and cardboard items that we haven't got currently. If it doesn't improve things then surely they are not reducing the facilities just adding to them. I've talked to a few friends outside the area and they would love what what we are being offered.  If you don't like the food and other new items don't use them and keep doing what your doing now. Before kicking off let's see if it works !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on June 05, 2011, 10:10:08 pm
Hmmm,  I'm looking at a plastic tub of sandwich-filler, gone past its sell-by date.... deliberating over whether it is food waste, or plastic waste.

I think I'll put it back in the fridge, its too stressful.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: JasonW on June 05, 2011, 10:14:04 pm
The new box system will not replace the food waste system
It will replace the white plastics bag, which can then be used for Garden Waste.
The green box we all ready have will no longer be required, and will probably be able to be returned or kept for another purpose.
CCBC have applied and received funding for the new system of boxes, and the costs have not been taken from the Council Tax.

Timings would have been better if the new boxes had come at the same time as the new vehicles, but this wasn't possible due to waiting for the funding, so the interim solution has been put forward starting later in June so that we can reduce the landfill tax earlier.

Trade Waste is not free, because it would costs CCBC and Council Tax payers to put this additional waste into landfill which has a price per ton plus the additional tax.

Jack: You CAN use a sign written van at the Mochdre (or other centre), The permit system was brought in last year to aid this scenario. You need to apply for a single use permit. Please see http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=7865&doc=27092&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=7865&doc=27092&Language=1) for more info on the permits being used.

I can stress how bad the EU imposed Landfill Tax esculation will have on Council Tax if we didn't put in these new measures. And as TheMedz has said this will be a Weekly collection of recycling material and FOOD waste.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on June 05, 2011, 10:37:24 pm
i,m sure they closed denbgh mentlal hospital and moved  tyhe patients to run ccbc, more new bin wagons oh no we don,t need the bins now :P :P
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Blodyn on June 05, 2011, 11:59:14 pm
I agree with The Medz, I'm delighted to have more recycling collected.  We have virtually no kitchen waste that doesn't go on the compost heap, so that part's not likely to affect us (handy container, though), but plastics and cartons will be collected more frequently than I currently take them to Asda and I can now add cardboard and batteries, even if I put out only a couple of batteries once in a while. 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Barbiroli on June 06, 2011, 12:58:24 am
Hi Fester You just empty the food into the food box provided, wash the container and put that into the big white bag provided Easy peasy  :rage:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Jas on June 06, 2011, 09:37:07 am
I Totally agree with you, Having lived out the Country for 30+yrs I can't understand why we have to have so many containers for Household rubbish in Aus we had two wheelie bins one with a yellow lid for recycling, they collected every week, so we didn't have that very unsightly look of dozens of different bags a boxes floating around on windy days. Like you  have I very little waste. Which I dispose of in Bins that are provided at the nearest Super Market. But have a thought for my brother who lives in the Midlands they have nine bins to sort out (what a nightmare!!). No wonder the Council Taxes are so high in this country, it must be more costly collecting all this stuff!.     
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 07, 2011, 09:48:34 am
Take a look at this  ;D

http://www.grumpyoldarchive.co.uk/recycling%20bollox.asp (http://www.grumpyoldarchive.co.uk/recycling%20bollox.asp)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2011, 09:54:51 am
Today I finished a jar of coffee.   The jar is glass, the label is paper, the lid is plastic and the lid insert is cardboard.   Hey Ho!    L0L
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 07, 2011, 10:05:12 am
no problem, you just spend an hour or so in the shed separating them, washing the jar and lid, place in the appropriate box / bag, job done! Then send the bill for your labour, hot water and washing up liquid to CCBC  WWW L0L
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on June 07, 2011, 10:40:15 am
I am 100% in favour of recycling but I think we are tackling the problem at the wrong end. Surely we should be aiming to produce goods where less recycling is needed. Our household always takes reusable bags to the supermarket but it's a bit pointless when you look at the conveyor belt and realise most things are packed in plastic.Why are some products packaged in recyclable plastic and others not ? Those plastic trays in black plastic that are not suitable for example.
Why does fast food come with so much polystyrene and plastic (which also adds to our litter problem) ? What's wrong with paper and cardboard.
What's wrong with deposits on bottles ?
I was recently at a Tesco Extra store that has a recycling machine where they give you one clubcard point for every drinks can you return... but nothing for bottles.

Currently the amount of energy wasted in recycling is anything but "green" in my opinion !

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 11:05:13 am
Some very good points, Dave. Packaging could be reduced/eliminated in many cases and there should be just as much focus on this as the recycling aspect.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Pendragon on June 07, 2011, 11:05:48 am
I'm all for recycling myself, but the problem is where to store all these bags and boxes? If you do line them up outside your house there will be a problem with rats and bloody seagulls and storing them in the house is not an option,  on a lighter note my Hubby says the plastic carrier box "would make a good picnic carrier" lol can you imagine turning up at Happy Valley and unpacking that?..................bless, he does make me laugh.  _))*
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 07, 2011, 12:12:28 pm
I am 100% in favour of recycling but I think we are tackling the problem at the wrong end. Surely we should be aiming to produce goods where less recycling is needed. Our household always takes reusable bags to the supermarket but it's a bit pointless when you look at the conveyor belt and realise most things are packed in plastic.Why are some products packaged in recyclable plastic and others not ? Those plastic trays in black plastic that are not suitable for example.
Why does fast food come with so much polystyrene and plastic (which also adds to our litter problem) ? What's wrong with paper and cardboard.
What's wrong with deposits on bottles ?
I was recently at a Tesco Extra store that has a recycling machine where they give you one clubcard point for every drinks can you return... but nothing for bottles.

Currently the amount of energy wasted in recycling is anything but "green" in my opinion !


   
I agree 100% Why melt down bottles and then remake them into bottles it's barking, bring back the deposits on bottles!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2011, 12:34:07 pm
I'm all for recycling myself, but the problem is where to store all these bags and boxes? If you do line them up outside your house there will be a problem with rats and bloody seagulls and storing them in the house is not an option,  on a lighter note my Hubby says the plastic carrier box "would make a good picnic carrier" lol can you imagine turning up at Happy Valley and unpacking that?..................bless, he does make me laugh.  _))*

Well our boxes and bags will be left outside and to hell with what happens to them!  Certainly not going to get houseroom.     :laugh:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dwyforite on June 07, 2011, 01:24:09 pm
we as children were recycling 50 plus years ago,we started at night going around the building sites picking up the pop bottles,stowing them away till the following afternoon and then taking them to graham walkers on the council estate.we also went into the dump and dragged old bikes prams cookers to billy Simpson,there was allways a way of getting a bob or two if you were willing to work at it.i built my first bike from scrap,i learnt how to fix brakes change tyres fix punctures.then i got interested in radio and found out that the valve that had blown in one radio could be found in another radio and fitted it ,power up lights on radio luxembourg here i go.then i found a radio with short wave,got it working with a piece of wire to the outside metal gutter and one to a long piece of copper tube into the ground and i was listening to voice of america broadcasting to troops in germany.the fight of the week was a favourite from america, how different now the grandchildrens toys that cost a fortune at christmas are now getting skipped now,the washing machines seem to last only a few months longer than the guarantee, the estate where i live is littered with big old toshiba TVs s thrown out in favour of the new slimline  models,but am i fault ,i used to change the elements in kettles  toasters cookers  and such but the wife tells me a new kettle in asda is only £9, are things worth fixing? i can t get the idea of things being repaired  instead of thrownout  out of my mind.but if i could have one wish it would be that there should be a charge of at least a charge of 50% extra on bottled beer,refunded on return even if it only stopped youngsters from smashing them on the pavements of our estate and being a hazard to pets and children
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 07, 2011, 02:44:05 pm
I know exactly what you mean Dwyforite, my Dad had a chemists shop and sold soda water in returnable syphons, pop in returnable bottles and if you needed something for an invalid you hired it. We rented out bed-pans, bottles, bed rests, pneumonia jackets etc, etc and people wouldn't have dreamed of buying things new. The pop and syphons were in wooden crates with compartments and you had to return the pop bottles complete with stopper, or you didn't get your money back. It was a great find if you came across anything like that, as you could make a fair profit to spend on sweets ! ;D
Imagine health and safety these days with the hire of equipment like that-- they'd have a chicken fit !! :o
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on June 07, 2011, 06:48:30 pm
Hi Fester You just empty the food into the food box provided, wash the container and put that into the big white bag provided Easy peasy  :rage:

Not doing that !!  It stinks !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 08, 2011, 11:50:51 am
Hi Fester You just empty the food into the food box provided, wash the container and put that into the big white bag provided Easy peasy  :rage:

Not doing that !!  It stinks !

Agreed--- we'll all have an epidemic of something 'orrible
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Trojan on June 08, 2011, 08:16:26 pm
Hi Fester You just empty the food into the food box provided, wash the container and put that into the big white bag provided Easy peasy  :rage:

Not doing that !!  It stinks !

That's no way to talk of your wife's cooking Fester.  :D
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on June 08, 2011, 09:40:13 pm
Anyway, I'm so pleased that all those YES voters in the referendum are getting full value for money now...

So, if we have a Heart Attack or Stroke we can travel 30  miles or more... or die on the way...
Roads are in a pitiful condition, ...(I could reel off quite a long list here)


But just as long as our packaging is all sorted into the right coloured bins, all is well !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2011, 08:48:54 pm
Its bin day tomorrow and looking down the road in Penrhyn Bay, no one seems quite sure what to put out! Some have all the bags and bins out just in case!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: dwsi on June 21, 2011, 09:17:05 pm
you can find your bin and recycling days here

http://bit.ly/kTd9xc (http://bit.ly/kTd9xc)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2011, 10:01:08 pm
Ah yes I looked at that, for this street it just says 'refuse'. it's the new system of recycling that is causing confusion here, some think it starts this week and some next week?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: JasonW on June 21, 2011, 10:22:25 pm
The new weekly recycling system is being rolled out this week.

Due to the excessive amount of recycling materials such as cardboard and plastics being put out in the first week, extra collections have been put on to cope. This means that you may have separate vehicles collecting recycling materials and at different times during the day. This has been one of the advantages of the phased roll-out; to understand how residents have used the system. The extra collections will be in operation for the 1st week and may be next week. Once residents have disposed of their stock piles then the normal service will mean that the new vehicles will collect the recycling materials each week.

In addition to the WEEKLY collection of Food, Paper, Tin, Glass, Plastic; there will be a separate collection of Refuse Wheely Bins or Garden Waste/Textiles on alternate weeks.

So the Calenders just show whether it is a Refuse week or a Garden Waste/Textile week.

Early indications are very positive in terms of the amount of recyclable material collected, but it may take several weeks for most people to get used to the new system.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2011, 07:51:16 am
The Seagulls or urban fox has already learned how to open the flimsy lid on the food recycling box!    And by the look of it has also had a peek inside the other receptacles!    Unless, of course, we have nosey neighbours!     L0L
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on June 22, 2011, 10:35:09 am
Yorkie, if you position the handle properly then the lid of the food recepticle will be fastened down.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2011, 01:23:48 pm
Thank you for the advice - maybe it should have been included in the Council's instructions!   Mind you animals and birds are clever creatures - my dog could open lever handled doors even after we put them on upside down!    _))*
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 22, 2011, 01:59:40 pm
Well, earlier we had the chap from the council walking round looking in the recycling bins / bags and putting leaflets through some doors (He left my flap up on the white bag, and the velcro seems crap, stuff will blow everywhere in the wind! $angry$ )

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P6220038.jpg)

then the lorry itself appeared with some stressed operatives being told by the driver to 'run and get a move on!' after they had finished, various unhappy looking householders asking them to empty missed bags and it's a good job it's not too windy as it's left like this  

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P6220041.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P6220042.jpg)

Seems an utter shambles to me, I told a neighbour this morning that a third system of stackable boxes is on the way, their reaction was 'where are we meant to put them!'
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on June 22, 2011, 02:09:50 pm
I think the main issue lies with the disparate size and shapes we're having to organise. Five or so containers, all the same size and shape and all stackable wouldn't be that much of a problem, providing they were clearly colour coded.  This current variety is tricky to wedge, especially in strong winds.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on June 22, 2011, 02:15:15 pm
Organising a comprehensive system of recycling was never going to be easy....
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 22, 2011, 02:45:29 pm
Organising a comprehensive system of recycling was never going to be easy....

especially by CCBC  L0L
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on June 22, 2011, 05:14:23 pm
Thank you for the advice - maybe it should have been included in the Council's instructions!   Mind you animals and birds are clever creatures - my dog could open lever handled doors even after we put them on upside down!    _))*

The "locking" instruction is on the top of the box.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2011, 05:23:11 pm
The "locking" instruction is on the top of the box.

Yes I see now, but as it is the same colour as the lid and as I have bad eyesight and don't read Braille it was missed.   I trust that you being so observant had yours properly secured?    L0L

Did not some Councillors and Officers of the Environmental department have very expensive trips to America and Europe a couple of years ago to look at recycling?  And was it not the same time that a certain B Bond spent over £250 on his mobile phone whilst in America and "forgot" to repay the Council!    He did in the end but only after someone bringing it to the Council's attention.   ZXZ

They are obviously emphasising the Mental part out of Environmental in Conwy.  Why the Hell doesn't the Acting Chief Executive do something about it rather than writing condescending letters to members of the community? You know who you are KF - start doing what your paid to do!   $angry$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SDQ on June 22, 2011, 06:52:19 pm
We had our first collection under the new scheme today. Our bins are normally emptied at 7:00am but today the first lorry arrived at 3:00pm and took glass & paper, a second lorry came about half an hour later for garden waste and a THIRD lorry came about an hour later for plastic & cans etc...
I thought the refuse collectors finished about 2:00pm or 3:00pm which makes you wonder if they're having to pay overtime to collect the extra amount of recyclables. If you take into account the cost of THREE vehicles plus the possibility of overtime payments this must be costing a fortune at just the time they're trying to make drastic cuts to save money!!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: white rabbit on June 22, 2011, 07:22:55 pm
I put everything out and it was all emptied but not at the same time - not sure what to next week tho!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on June 22, 2011, 08:24:05 pm
The "locking" instruction is on the top of the box.

Yes I see now, but as it is the same colour as the lid and as I have bad eyesight and don't read Braille it was missed.   I trust that you being so observant had yours properly secured?    L0L

I intended my comment to be helpful but from the tone of your comment above, you obviously thought differently.
I too have poor sight and wear spectacles.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2011, 09:00:43 pm
The "locking" instruction is on the top of the box.

Yes I see now, but as it is the same colour as the lid and as I have bad eyesight and don't read Braille it was missed.   I trust that you being so observant had yours properly secured?    L0L

I intended my comment to be helpful but from the tone of your comment above, you obviously thought differently.
I too have poor sight and wear spectacles.

Not at all - just trying to inject a little humour into a rather unpleasant subject!  If you had been able to see my facial expression and body language you may have judged my comments differently.   Sorry if I have offended you Stan.    Z**

I wonder how people who are seriously visually impaired are able to cope?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 23, 2011, 01:49:47 pm
All well and good, but 5 of us have been missed here. None of us have any new receptacles and before some idiot starts on about commercial bins again, it has nothing to do with the matter, some of the missed places are private dwellings. The grey bin was emptied as usual this morning .Trade bins on Monday.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Trojan on June 24, 2011, 01:08:30 am
Sorry for being a Grouch, but.......

Bring back the old metal dustbins I say.

Make the binmen walk to your back yard and hump the bin to the waiting dustcart idling in the street.

Bury the rubbish in a landfill just like the good old days.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 24, 2011, 10:25:47 am
You certainly have a point there. We used to set fire to ours, before smokeless areas were thought of, it both lowered the level and cleaned it !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Jas on June 24, 2011, 01:40:42 pm
With you there, :D Tin Bins... the way to go
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Trojan on June 24, 2011, 04:47:40 pm
You certainly have a point there. We used to set fire to ours, before smokeless areas were thought of, it both lowered the level and cleaned it !

There used to be an incinerator plant off Cwm Road, where household rubbish would be brought by wagons to be burned to produce.......electricity.  :votive: :votive: :votive:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 24, 2011, 05:56:37 pm
Sound more sense than carting stuff all over the place--and much greener
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 24, 2011, 06:01:25 pm
the council speaks!

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/23/recycling-questions-answered-by-conwy-s-cllr-mike-priestley-55243-28923430/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/23/recycling-questions-answered-by-conwy-s-cllr-mike-priestley-55243-28923430/)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Trojan on June 24, 2011, 06:03:07 pm
Sound more sense than carting stuff all over the place--and much greener

The tall chimney did belch out smoke all over south Llandudno.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on July 07, 2011, 01:02:25 pm
We have at last, after 4 phone calls been allotted our new system. WOW ! All those, bags, bins and bits, the men chuck the bin wherever it falls now, so goodness knows where the new lot will end up.------Watch this space !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on July 07, 2011, 11:40:52 pm
The drive of my house is a shared access for about 6 other houses...
All of which need to leave their bins at the foot of my drive.

Up to now, its just been 6 bins once a week. (or once a fortnight)

But this morning, it looked like a mountain of disperate bins and bags all brimming over waiting to be collected.

After the various collection chappies had been, it was much worse, it looked like Hiroshima. 

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on July 08, 2011, 10:58:41 am
I am walking round-- book in hand with an armful of rubbish-  Doh!

Had the drains cleaned and the road swept---on the back lane this morning WOW can't get over it, shall have to have a lie down !
Title: FYI: Recycling and Refuse Collections over Christmas and New Year
Post by: dwsi on December 27, 2011, 05:19:32 pm
Recycling and Refuse Collections over Christmas and New Year http://bit.ly/ucEwAv (http://bit.ly/ucEwAv)
Title: Re: FYI: Recycling and Refuse Collections over Christmas and New Year
Post by: Dave on December 27, 2011, 10:51:26 pm
Very useful, thanks very much ! Dave
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 29, 2011, 11:49:32 am
We put the recycling box and bags out this morning along with two bricks to stop the wind blowing it away. When we arrived home we find the grey box and lid blown into next door's slate tip (recently landscaped front garden) the green plastic bag has been blown into oblivion and the two bricks are sat on the lawn with nothing but grass beneath them!!   $angry$ $angry$

How hard can it be to put a brick on top of something to stop it blowing away? I've always said it was a stupid system having these bags, from now on they can stick it until the council gives us proper boxes to use!

 :rage:

I've now phoned the council and I asked if it was council policy to not use the bricks and the lady said something about different staff over Xmas and it was an oversite, I'll get a new one in the post.  To me what a waste of council money!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on December 29, 2011, 12:55:16 pm
You can generally track the progress of the recycling lorry by the whirlwind of waste paper that gets blown down the road from it as the bins are emptied.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on December 29, 2011, 08:25:40 pm
I've now phoned the council and I asked if it was council policy to not use the bricks and the lady said something about different staff over Xmas and it was an oversite, I'll get a new one in the post.  To me what a waste of council money!

I hope you like the new brick these silly idiots will probably send!    _))*
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 29, 2011, 08:44:58 pm
 _))*. Yes I did wonder what will arrive!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: bigbadhenry on December 30, 2011, 10:59:21 am
 Recycling was done on the cheap in Conwy.

Other Welsh councils do a far better job.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 30, 2011, 11:37:34 am
Things will improve with the new roleout of recycling later in the year. We have a new 3 stackable box system with access to each box when stacked. This will replace a lot of the various different bags and boxes we now have. Unfortunately this system will not be with us for a few months.



So what happened with the 'new' system?  when will it happen?  will  it happen?  are any councillors reading this??  ???
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on December 30, 2011, 04:21:01 pm
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Recycling was done on the cheap in Conwy. Other Welsh councils do a far better job.

Indeed. But this is one significant argument against localisation.  Throughout the UK, it's likely that most people have a fairly typical waste output, which would suggest that a single, centralised system of collection and disposal could have been introduced.  Economy of scale in manufacturing both bins and vehicles, plus the obvious advantage of every council not having to reinvent the wheel from scratch might have been a wiser course of action.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 30, 2011, 04:45:41 pm
That sounds very logical to me  :)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on December 30, 2011, 07:56:40 pm
Couldn't agree more with Dave's comment.

As far as I am concerned I think there is much too much primary sorting of the rubbish.  It is possible to construct a sorting machine that will sort almost any substance from another.  Such machines could be built to benefit from economy of size and with a throughput that would make the local recycling centre look the size of a pimple on an elephant's backside.   This could only be done by a countrywide agreement to enter the system, so it must be a Central Government initiative.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 31, 2011, 04:26:04 pm
I've now phoned the council and I asked if it was council policy to not use the bricks and the lady said something about different staff over Xmas and it was an oversite, I'll get a new one in the post.  To me what a waste of council money!

I hope you like the new brick these silly idiots will probably send!    _))*

This morning a new green bag arrived, postage cost of 65p
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2011, 06:09:03 pm
Congratulations,  the postage alone has cost me .0022p without the cost of the bag!   Please be more careful with your bag in future, I cannot afford this extravagance!      L0L   L0L   L0L

Have a Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 31, 2011, 07:31:09 pm
Yes plus the cost of the envelope, bag itself and a member of staff's time! The old bag is now possibly in Rhyl  :laugh:

Happpy new year!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: TheMedz on January 01, 2012, 03:56:04 am
The recycling van(postponed from Thursday)that was due to arrive yesterday(Friday) actually turned up at something past six this morning(Saturday). No matter, all those incriminating wine bottles from holiday excesses are now dispatched. Sadly only to be replaced in the recycling box by this evening's supply.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 05, 2012, 08:59:33 am
Just been down to get the Paper and the NWWN (why the latter I don't know) and the streets are strewn with bins, boxes and bags that have been blown into the road AFTER they have been emptied!   Seems that the refuse lads have difficulty in making them secure when empty!  Yet another flaw in the system!
 >>>
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 05, 2012, 09:41:05 am
Just been down to get the Paper and the NWWN (why the latter I don't know) and the streets are strewn with bins, boxes and bags that have been blown into the road AFTER they have been emptied!   Seems that the refuse lads have difficulty in making them secure when empty!  Yet another flaw in the system!
 >>>

See the post I made a week ago, I've put it out again today with bricks again, we'll see what happens!

We put the recycling box and bags out this morning along with two bricks to stop the wind blowing it away. When we arrived home we find the grey box and lid blown into next door's slate tip (recently landscaped front garden) the green plastic bag has been blown into oblivion and the two bricks are sat on the lawn with nothing but grass beneath them!!   $angry$ $angry$

How hard can it be to put a brick on top of something to stop it blowing away? I've always said it was a stupid system having these bags, from now on they can stick it until the council gives us proper boxes to use!

 :rage:

I've now phoned the council and I asked if it was council policy to not use the bricks and the lady said something about different staff over Xmas and it was an oversite, I'll get a new one in the post.  To me what a waste of council money!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 05, 2012, 01:51:32 pm
Recycling collected, bricks used, no problem, someone must have listened!  +}}{-- <:<:<:<


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Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: JasonW on January 06, 2012, 09:24:53 pm
Couldn't agree more with Dave's comment.

As far as I am concerned I think there is much too much primary sorting of the rubbish.  It is possible to construct a sorting machine that will sort almost any substance from another.  Such machines could be built to benefit from economy of size and with a throughput that would make the local recycling centre look the size of a pimple on an elephant's backside.   This could only be done by a countrywide agreement to enter the system, so it must be a Central Government initiative.
The number of boxes and the issue of what happens in the wind is recognised as a problem and a weak link in the current solution.
There is a sorting machine at Gofer site to seperate the plastic and different metals.
By keeping the paper seperate, it means it is not contaminated and the Council acheives a better premium from Shotton Paper Mill.
Speaking with Cllr Mike Priestley yesterday, I understand that a trail of the new box system should be available in March. Later than expected due to finding funding (i.e. not from the Council Tax)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 06, 2012, 09:44:05 pm
The number of boxes and the issue of what happens in the wind is recognised as a problem and a weak link in the current solution.

I would have thought that it was an obvious problem right from the start, to have the green plastic bag for paper, highly likely to blow away if the operative does not put the brick on it. It seems we need one wheelie bin for normal rubbish, one weighted box with hinged lid for paper and another similar box for the rest. But you need somewhere to store them and if you're out and it's windy and the bricks have not been used....
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 07, 2012, 11:58:10 am
Why in this day and age should one need a bloody brick to satisfy the requirements of the Council's recycling programme?

 >>>
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 07, 2012, 12:23:08 pm
Why in this day and age should one need a bloody brick to satisfy the requirements of the Council's recycling programme?

 >>>

Due to the fact that the system is ludicrous!  And it's at least two bricks :rage:

Does anyone still have the small battery bag?  What a joke that was L0L
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 07, 2012, 01:49:05 pm
Due to the fact that the system is ludicrous!  And it's at least two bricks :rage:

Does anyone still have the small battery bag?  What a joke that was L0L

I thought that two bricks were only neccessary when castrating camels!    L0L   
Just have to be careful to keep your thumbs out of the way!    :o

Yes, I still got the battery bag which is well used for disposing of all the used batteries from mice, remote controls, cameras and all the other impedimenta that seems to rely on battery power nowadays.  I even buy in bulk on the Internet!     ZXZ
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 07, 2012, 03:00:31 pm
Now that the building work on our house is at an end, we have dived in to the wonderful world of recycling this week.
Here is a quick list of the issues that I have encountered this week.
Bearing in mind there are only two of us, I cannot fathom how larger families are coping...(I suspect that many are not even attempting it)

1. Unable to fit all the cardboard and bottles into the same plastic box. (OK, its WAS xmas I suppose)
2, Tried to get that plastic box emptied, (forgot to leave it out the previous night) ... but got ignored by the hi-vis guys rapidly driving off down the road.   
3, The white bag for plastic was left out, and was weighted down... but it blew 30 yards down the road and emptied itself! I picked up as much as I could, but I reckon quite a bit escaped.
4, But it all balances up, because I then 'inherited' about 60 bottles and cans that had blown from someone elses bins into my patch!   So I picked those filthy items up, and put them in my bins.
5, Food waste.... thus far I cannot face having food waste hanging around the house, or outside where animals roam, so that is just a step too far for me at the moment.
6, I noticed that much of todays packaging, for food or Xmas gifts, is a mixture of cardboard and plastic (or acetate film)
In this respect I have tried to rip it up and seperate it.... but it is a balls-ache. 
7, I got the mother of all paper-cuts from outsorting some paper and acetate... and I hate the world at the moment.
8, I don't like the choice of having all these different bags / boxes littering my house..OR being left outside at the mercy of the elements and vermin.   But then again, at least I have the room for them.... I have no idea how other peopleare expected to manage.

Hopefully I will get my 'eye-in' with this re-cycling lark...and I will find better ways to manage it going forward.
I have to say that I am 100% in favour of recycling... it is completely logical and morally correct.
However, I just wish that the local authorites would get their best brains on the topic to make it easy for us to do.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on January 07, 2012, 03:04:08 pm
I just wish that the local authorites would get their best brains on the topic
:laugh:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 07, 2012, 03:19:10 pm
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Food waste.... thus far I cannot face having food waste hanging around the house, or outside where animals roam, so that is just a step too far for me at the moment.

I agree. Food waste in the winter is bad enough, but in the long, hot days of summer it's simply unhealthy. Far better to either feed the birds or, possibly better, plough it into gardens.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 07, 2012, 06:48:32 pm
A lot of food waste can be recycled at home.  Much of the stuff one throws away can be washed and made into delicious soups.  For example outer leaves of cauliflower, potato, carrot, parsnip, swede and other vegetable peelings can all be used with the introduction of some stock and seasonings.   Stock can be made from offcuts of meat, bones and clean leftovers such as chicken carcasses etc.  Marmalade can be made from orange, lemon and other citrus peels, chutney from surplus veg and fruit, it's just a matter of finding a use for all this stuff.

You can even brew your own alcoholic beverages!   That should appeal to some people!   L0L

Apart from the recycling aspect it is all good fun!   ££$

Try this one:  http://www.boldsky.com/cookery/soups-snacks-drinks/vegetarian-soup/vegetable-peel-soup-recipe-250211-aid0111.html (http://www.boldsky.com/cookery/soups-snacks-drinks/vegetarian-soup/vegetable-peel-soup-recipe-250211-aid0111.html)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: hollins on November 13, 2013, 10:45:39 am
I remember reading with great sympathy about the problems you all had in the Three Towns when recycling was introduced. At the time we had a excellent fortnightly service. You could set your watch by them they were so reliable. This all changed three weeks ago when Conwy Council in their wisdom stopped that service. Recycling bins were delivered and a promise of a weekly collection. Three weeks later and still nothing has been collected so after a few phone calls to the council we find out that amongst the changes made to rural collections they are refusing to pick up rubbish from people on adopted roads. People in this situation are to take their rubbish to the nearest road - sometimes a mile or more away. The trouble is in their incompetence they have forgotten to tell people that.
On our lane we have two elderly widows one of whom cannot drive so for them it would be an impossible task.. Goodness knows how many people in the rural areas are still in the dark about this and waiting hopefully that their bins will soon be emptied.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on November 14, 2013, 11:35:30 pm
That's absolutely outrageous Hollins, and a flagrant abuse of your council tax payment.

The teething troubles which we had in Llandudno were as nothing compared to that fundamental problem.

My issue at the moment is that 8 houses from lower down my road put their recycle bins, and their normal bins on the drive that I walk down to my car.  So I have to walk through a 'gauntlet' of 16 bins to get out of my house!

When it is very windy, there is loads of rubbish blowing around the road, and milk cartons etc, trapped by the wheels of our cars.

If the Council Management don't act on the problem your neighbours face, I would immediately refer it to my MP, or AM.
After all, what do we pay them for?


Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2013, 08:05:58 am
That's not all you pay for!   After the recycling people have thrown your green bag around a few times and virtually destroyed it, they charge you £1.50 for a new one, providing you go to Mochdre to collect it!   $angry$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 15, 2013, 08:15:02 am
Yorkie, I am sure we bought our last one in Llandudno Library.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2013, 08:25:23 am
My issue at the moment is that 8 houses from lower down my road put their recycle bins, and their normal bins on the drive that I walk down to my car.  So I have to walk through a 'gauntlet' of 16 bins to get out of my house!
&shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2013, 08:39:49 am
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we find out that amongst the changes made to rural collections they are refusing to pick up rubbish from people on adopted roads

H;  do you by any chance mean 'unadopted roads?  If so, then there are a fair few in the area, and certainly where we live the council has never driven them to empty bins. Unadopted roads can be a nightmare, because the legislation covering them is so incredibly complicated.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: hollins on November 15, 2013, 09:10:50 am
Yes, sorry. I should have said unadopted roads.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2013, 09:16:24 am
There's a pdf on Unadopted roads, which I can attach, if you're interested.  It's pretty dull reading, as it's a lot of legislation and definitions (think I'll wait for the film:-), but the gist of it seems to be that if you live on an unadopted road you may never find out who the owner of the road is, you may not be able to park on it, and yet the council can carry out 'necessary repairs' to the road and then charge you for them, which I find quite worrying.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: hollins on November 15, 2013, 09:34:18 am
Thanks Ian. This is all a bit beyond me but Mr Hollins would be interested in the pdf please.
In our case the ownership of the road is clear. It is partly us and partly a farmer.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2013, 10:26:17 am
One pdf as promised...
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Minime on November 20, 2013, 08:19:58 pm
Theres a tree blocking the road on an unadopted road.  Who would be responsible for clearing it - its in the pwllychrochan woods.  Young lad said he was going to ring his dad but for future reference who would you contact?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on November 20, 2013, 08:40:43 pm
It depends if the road is a right of way. As you see from the pdf it's a tricky subject...
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2013, 08:55:38 pm
You could try CCBC Highways dept first:
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/section.asp?cat=10789&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/section.asp?cat=10789&Language=1)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Minime on November 20, 2013, 09:19:25 pm
Read that pdf Ian.  Who owns pwllychrochan woods as its one of their trees causing the actual obstruction.   Duty to make safe and that.  Id lean towards whoever owns the land the tree is on has the duty to clear it
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Minime on November 20, 2013, 09:24:20 pm
Have found wardens email.  Owned by council as its in public woods part at bottom so will email her in morning if its still there
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: nwpo on January 07, 2014, 04:58:30 pm
Just had an interesting conversation with the service manger at CCBC about the Troliblocs which I complained to Goronwy Edwards about. Ours have already started disintegrating and it seems that I'm not the only one. They've had over 100 complaints in the last 24 hours about them flying everywhere and breaking, but they were only tested to withstand a Force 5 wind.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 07, 2014, 05:50:03 pm
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they were only tested to withstand a Force 5 wind.

Did you ask him what that means?  As it stands, it doesn't say anything about how they were tested, or for what characteristics.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2014, 02:39:09 am
I have lodged an email complaint about damage to my car from recycling bins flying around in the gales, but I am yet to receive a reply.
However, tonight whilst out in town I heard quite a number of people who have had damage or other issues emanating from these bins, and none of them have had a satisfactory outcome yet either.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: nwpo on January 08, 2014, 10:57:05 am
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they were only tested to withstand a Force 5 wind.

Did you ask him what that means?  As it stands, it doesn't say anything about how they were tested, or for what characteristics.

Well the meeting I've had this morning, they were tested to the same British Standard as the normal wheelie bin (whatever that may be) and they have gone through 4 different revisions.

Each Trolibloc set costs £30.00 (less discount) and whilst they did experiment with a sand and mortar weight infill at the bottom to stop the set going flying, this would have meant changing the design incurring extra cost, but if any resident can come up with a cheap way of weighing it down, please forward it to the council.  Why they didn't think about this on Revision 2 is beyond me.

The council believe the Trolibloc system is the most cost effective way of meeting the Welsh Government targets, even if it means replacing boxes on a regular basis when they get broken.  Our top box lasted 6 weeks before the Kerbside Collection Team managed to break the handles off.  The answer - have a new top box.

(Where's the pissing money away smiley?)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2014, 11:47:18 am
We're still on the old system and I have been waiting for 6 months for a new divider for my cardboard/glass box. As it is it all has to go in together.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 08, 2014, 11:59:37 am
Having spent more than half an hour searching for the relevant BS testing criteria, I've now given up.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 08, 2014, 12:48:50 pm
We're still on the old system and I have been waiting for 6 months for a new divider for my cardboard/glass box. As it is it all has to go in together.

We are also on the old system, I didn't know there should even be a divider! I'll stay happy without one!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2014, 02:36:09 pm
CCBC have come back to me, and as expected, they have NOT accepted liability for the damage to my car.

Therefore I have asked them to make immediate new arrangements to ensure that my drive will not have 12 other bins in close proximity to my car.
It will inconvenience them, and sadly also some of the neighbours from the houses below me, but I have no alternative if they refuse to accept their responsibilities.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Cambrian on January 08, 2014, 08:00:34 pm
I don't think dividers are given for the green cardboard/glass box as we have not had one for some time.  The stuff from the the green box seems to go into the same aperture in the freighter so presumably there is no need to divide it now.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 08, 2014, 09:37:27 pm
CCBC have come back to me, and as expected, they have NOT accepted liability for the damage to my car.

A claim could possibly be made against the householders who had the bins, under a household policy.   Your car insurers, if you have comp cover, could also assist with the claim.  Better still if you have legal protection cover.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on January 08, 2014, 10:32:13 pm
I don't think dividers are given for the green cardboard/glass box as we have not had one for some time.  The stuff from the the green box seems to go into the same aperture in the freighter so presumably there is no need to divide it now.

My divider blew away with the wind last week so I phoned CCBC up asking for a replacement.   They told me that they don't issue dividers anymore as both cardboard and bottles go into the same compartment in the bin lorry.   So bottles and cardboard don't need to be separated any more and both can be put into the green box together.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2014, 11:10:27 pm
CCBC have come back to me, and as expected, they have NOT accepted liability for the damage to my car.

A claim could possibly be made against the householders who had the bins, under a household policy.   Your car insurers, if you have comp cover, could also assist with the claim.  Better still if you have legal protection cover.
 ZXZ

That's a non starter.
Would you appreciate me knocking on your door to say, 'cough up £300 please, as your wheelie bin has damaged my car'
I think I can imagine how far that would get me.

No, CCBC have produced the TrolleyBox, made of plastic and tubular metal,  they have just left the residents of oue street to figure our where best to place this DOUBLING of our bins.
I have tolerated them all on my drive, despite it looking terrible, until the point where it is costing me money.
Plus there is always loads of rubbish to pick up after a windy night, or after the recycling gang have been.

Remember also, in a conservation area. surely it is questionable whether all these different types of bins on display, together with the rubbish on the streets are appropriate? 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2014, 07:07:21 am
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Remember also, in a conservation area. surely it is questionable whether all these different types of bins on display, together with the rubbish on the streets are appropriate? 

I'm not sure how much of this is down to CCBC, though. I suspect they're being forced into doing the recycling through the agreement of the UK government to the Brussels edict, and recycling inevitably means different boxes or containers.   
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2014, 08:20:36 am
It not necessary to have a multitude of bins for effective recycling.  If foodstuffs are kept separate, the rest can be automatically divided on a conveyor system using mechanical, air and other means, and finishing with a chemical method to extract precious metals and the like. 

Not cheap to set up but very effective.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on January 09, 2014, 08:50:21 am
That's a good point. There's simply no need to have all these little boxes. A lot of Councils have one bin for all the recyclable materials.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 09, 2014, 09:18:12 am
When we lived in Oxfordshire (until 2007) we just had the recycling in one bin, nice and simple!  $good$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: llewelyn on January 09, 2014, 03:24:06 pm
That's a good point. There's simply no need to have all these little boxes. A lot of Councils have one bin for all the recyclable materials.


Conwy Town looks a mess with boxes and bins dumped everywhere, residents have very little space to store them, or put them ready for collection.  there must be a better option.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2014, 08:56:59 pm
CCBC have come back to me again, about two incidents of damage to my property.
1, Damage to my car from flying recycling trolleys, which belonged to neighbours.

2, Damage to my garden decking and fences caused by the local school building ramshackle structures.

When I spoke to them verbally, they accepted liability for both.... but now suddenly, the bureaucrats have become involved.
Now, they will neither fix the damage, not settle with me directly.

Instead, they have told me that I must wait to be contacted by CCBC insurers, (Zurich) and deal directly with them via their claims process.

As part of my protestations I said to CCBC that I will behave in a similar way when it comes to paying my Council Tax.
So, when they want their payment, I will direct them to go and see Joe Bloggs, who coincidentally owes me that exact same amount!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2014, 09:01:17 pm
If I were you i would get two quotations for the repair of all the damage and file a claim with their insurers giving them 21 days to pay.  If they don't cough up whip them into the County Court for the amount of your claim, plus interest, plus costs.
 ££$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: nwpo on January 10, 2014, 03:35:05 pm
That's a good point. There's simply no need to have all these little boxes. A lot of Councils have one bin for all the recyclable materials.

I pointed out there are probably a few sites in North Wales where they could put a processing plant and that this would lead to an increase in jobs, but the Manager who came to see me stated that it is Welsh Government policy that all waste materials be sorted at source (i.e. by the unpaid Council Tax payer) and if Conwy did implement a system of no pre-sorting the waste would have to go to ENGLAND to be separated.

Realistically, it's a lack of forward thinking which has got us in this mess.  The whole of North Wales could easily use one waste processing site but that would have required thinking about years ago, however, joined up thinking and job creation are bottom of the list of priorities for CCBC.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 18, 2014, 10:59:35 am
Mochdre clothing centre to be opened by Carwyn Jones today

Draig Tex, the first social enterprise led centre in Wales, collects unwanted clothing to sell in community shops, and it will be opened by the Mr Jones at the centre’s Glan y Wern site at 10am.

“We have created 13 new jobs locally and as at the end of August we have collected 280 tonnes of textiles. We are working with 11 charities and social enterprises across Wales, some of whom have multiple shops across our regions.”

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138316/mochdre-clothing-centre-to-be-opened-by-carwyn-jones-today.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138316/mochdre-clothing-centre-to-be-opened-by-carwyn-jones-today.aspx)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2014, 06:45:40 pm
Is it just me, or are there other more urgent priorities,... how much will this cost, and how many will use it in this area.? &shake&

New recycling app approved to help Conwy residents sort rubbish
A NEW recycling app to help Conwy residents sort their rubbish has been given the green light.
Conwy County Council has been given the go ahead by the Welsh Government to develop the smartphone and tablet app that will provide information on recycling and waste collection services.
A council spokesperson said: “The aim is to offer householders an opportunity to download a free bilingual app onto their smartphone/tablet.
“We have awarded the contract and the app is being built.”

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138617/new-recycling-app-approved-to-help-conwy-residents-sort-rubbish.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138617/new-recycling-app-approved-to-help-conwy-residents-sort-rubbish.aspx)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2014, 08:47:00 am
Is it just me, or are there other more urgent priorities,... how much will this cost, and how many will use it in this area.? &shake&
It's a ridiculous waste of money. All the information is already on the CCBC website and anyone with a smart phone or computer can access it there.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on October 08, 2014, 09:40:18 am
Another waste of our money ,could have been spent on something we need .
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Yorkie on October 08, 2014, 10:26:45 am
Is it just me, or are there other more urgent priorities,... how much will this cost, and how many will use it in this area.? &shake&
It's a ridiculous waste of money. All the information is already on the CCBC website and anyone with a smart phone or computer can access it there.

Except that some bright spark in Bodlondeb wants all those people without access to the Internet to benefit from a recycling app!  Of course he doesn't have a computer himself!   _))*  _))* 
He's just one of those essential people that all Councils have to employ to show they have no prejudice against numbskulls.    L0L L0L
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2014, 11:00:17 am
"New recycling app approved to help Conwy residents sort rubbish"
I am led to believe that this could cost in excess of £10.000... $angry$

"Conwy County Council has been given the go ahead by the Welsh Government"

Don't know what's worse, CCBC thinking up the idea, or W.G. approving it?

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Mr Tunnock on December 17, 2014, 10:22:55 am
This is our first week with the new trolley that has all the recycling in one place, provided by Conwy CBC, and we have found it very difficult to place all our paper, plastic and packaging in the  said contraption, we prefer the old bags for the purpose of recycling.
I wouldn't call this progress.
Hello by the way, a long time reader of this forum but a new member.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2014, 10:31:44 am
Welcome to the Forum.

It does seem a complicated system; why CCBC couldn't have adopted the system in Denbighshire whereby all recycling goes into one wheelie bin, I don't know?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: bigbadhenry on December 17, 2014, 10:34:56 am
Welcome to the Forum.

It does seem a complicated system; why CCBC couldn't have adopted the system in Denbighshire whereby all recycling goes into one wheelie bin, I don't know?

Does it stop all the rubbish from getting blown all over the place????
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on December 17, 2014, 10:38:22 am
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why CCBC couldn't have adopted the system in Denbighshire whereby all recycling goes into one wheelie bin, I don't know?

Wirral uses the same system.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2014, 10:47:23 am
Welcome to the Forum.

It does seem a complicated system; why CCBC couldn't have adopted the system in Denbighshire whereby all recycling goes into one wheelie bin, I don't know?

Does it stop all the rubbish from getting blown all over the place????
Yes, it works well. You have one wheelie bin for rubbish, one for all your recycling and one for garden waste.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on December 17, 2014, 02:54:07 pm
Mr Tunnock,  welcome to the Forum,
I particularly like your famous Tunnock's Tea Cakes,  which are in fact not Tea Cakes at all, but more of an addictive marshmallow and jam mixture, on a biscuit base... enrobed in chocolate!

The wrappers of said 'Tea Cakes' are not suitable for recycling either, as they are (or used to be) metal foil.

If pushed however, I also enjoy enjoy your Caramel Wafers, but you have resorted to making them somewhat smaller over the years!  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: hollins on December 17, 2014, 03:08:07 pm
Welcome Mr Tunnock!

http://www.hunkydoryhome.co.uk/gillian-kyle/tunnocks-caramel-wafer-cushion-p-486.html (http://www.hunkydoryhome.co.uk/gillian-kyle/tunnocks-caramel-wafer-cushion-p-486.html)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Mr Tunnock on December 17, 2014, 04:16:47 pm
Thank you Hollins and indeed Fester!
It is the caramel wafers that I am addicted to and have been form many years now, before that it was the Marks and Spencer caramel wafers that were also wrapped in foil, gold at that!
I notice most of life's nicer things have all gone smaller over the years, if only my tummy were the same.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2014, 05:23:50 pm
Mr Tunnock,  welcome to the Forum,
I particularly like your famous Tunnock's Tea Cakes,  which are in fact not Tea Cakes at all, but more of an addictive marshmallow and jam mixture, on a biscuit base... enrobed in chocolate!

The wrappers of said 'Tea Cakes' are not suitable for recycling either, as they are (or used to be) metal foil.

If pushed however, I also enjoy enjoy your Caramel Wafers, but you have resorted to making them somewhat smaller over the years!  &shake&
Tunnocks do make exceedingly good cakes...  $good$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 17, 2014, 09:35:01 pm
We await said' contraption', but have had to ask for measurements due to the fact that we have quite a narrow back gate as well as 2 lots of steps which it will have to be dragged up and through. They have been given (620mm) wide, but we have been told that if the 'contraption is not suitable for our premises it will be removed !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2014, 02:02:28 pm
Well, if you take a look around the Great Orme area today, the Re-cycling effort by CCBC has come off the rails completely.

There are Trolley Boxes strewn everywhere, all separated from their trollies.
There are also many lids, broken off from the plastic boxes, all around the roads.
Those who use bags will have all on finding them ever again,  many of them are 30ft up in trees.

Worst of all though, there are glass bottles (broken mostly) all over the road sides.
Very dangerous for kids, animals and cars alike.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SDQ on December 18, 2014, 03:17:33 pm
I drove through Mochdre earlier and it was the same.
Trollies lying on the floor and boxes all over the place!
Back to the drawing board methinks.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2014, 03:58:28 pm
Not Mike Priestley's finest hour...  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 07, 2015, 11:20:49 pm
Interesting,  I heard on the news that Recycling totals has actually started to FALL in many parts of Wales.
Well, I think I know the main reasons why!

About 70% of what I recycled last week, (and similar amounts for all my neighbours) is strewn around the Great Orme's hedgerows, roadsides and gardens.  Due to high winds, and overloaded bins..... but why?

The fact is, in our area we were given a collection date of 2nd January, for the mountain of Xmas recycling.
But they NEVER TURNED UP to collect!   Thereby creating a massive overflow...... most of which has to be slammed into the general waste, and hence sent to landfill.  They never turned up for the whole of the next week either, and still have not.

We have kept our part of the bargain for too long.... outsorting all this stuff in all weathers.  However CCBC have not kept theirs, therefore my recycling efforts are being ''down scaled'' 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: hollins on January 08, 2015, 08:53:50 am
Our last collection was December 18th. Hope they come today!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: TheMedz on January 08, 2015, 09:16:19 am

The fact is, in our area we were given a collection date of 2nd January, for the mountain of Xmas recycling.
But they NEVER TURNED UP to collect!   

Fester, I went round to the recycling lorry depot on Builder street and asked why they had not been on the 2nd of Jan. Apparently they did the top half of our road but ran out of time to do the bottom half so they left them out. !!!!

Strangely they came at 8.30 this morning instead of their normal mid to late afternoon slot. By that time last night's  winds had emptied most of the boxes,put out last night, onto Black Gate.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2015, 09:18:24 am
Apparently they did the top half of our road but ran out of time to do the bottom half so they left them out. !!!!
That's sadly indicative of attitudes in parts of the public sector.  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on January 08, 2015, 11:33:32 am
I didn't put our bins out last night as it was blowing a gale but as the bins were so full I had to set the alarm clock for 7.30 am and get up and take the bins down ready for the bin men who normally call just after 8 o'clock.
When I got up the wind had died down and it was very calm, but that won't be for long as bad weather is forecast for later.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2015, 12:06:40 pm
New idea this morning ! All 3 of our garden waste bags were removed complete with contents first thing this morning !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on January 08, 2015, 03:04:29 pm
Something similar happening here in Conwy Nemesis. My neighbour and I have put our garden waste out twice in December and it wasn't collected, at the third attempt last Friday they took bags and contents from both properties, left me two new bags but none for my neighbour.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: TheMedz on January 08, 2015, 05:06:26 pm
There's got to be something really ironic (or possibly stupid) in the fact that when we came back to the house this afternoon I spent a good while collecting a  number of Crest Recycling Bags blowing about on the tram tracks and up our road. This along with the advertising or "how to recycle" paper work that goes with them.

On a more positive note the Garden Recycling team did, this morning, take away the Christmas tree as advertised this morning.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 28, 2015, 03:56:17 pm
We had the new trolleybocs thing delivered on Wednesday, went out on Friday for collection, all fine so far, went out this afternoon, came back and it had blown over! Now the handle on the paper box is broken! Not a lot of use in the real world of winds!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2015, 05:06:26 pm
Conwy council to undertake one of the biggest ever recycling surveys in Wales
Following the rollout of the Trolibocs system and having achieved a recycling rate of 59 per cent, the council is seeking to continue its success by launching the ‘recycle more survey’.

The survey, which will be sent out to households across conwy over the next two weeks in the form of 50,000 questionnaires, is designed to find out how the council can help residents recycle more and waste less.

Dave Cowans, councillor responsible for environment and sustainability, said: “What the people of Conwy have done in getting to 59 per cent recycling has been fantastic.
“Our weekly recycling collection service has been hugely popular and now we want to find out how we can get even more out of the wheelie bin and into the food bin and Trolibocs.
"Everyone has a part to play and I would ask everyone to fill out the survey.”

Andrew Wilkinson, head of neighbourhood services, said: “It’s no secret that councils have less money to spend.
"Last year we could have saved a staggering £1.6 million if people had placed all of their recyclables into the recycling containers instead of the wheelie bin.

“That is literally throwing away money, which we can’t afford. We need residents to help us take the next step towards a better environment by wasting less and recycling more.”
The survey will also be available online on Conwy Council’s website.
Once the surveys have been collated and examined, the results will be made public
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/151944/conwy-council-to-undertake-one-of-the-biggest-ever-recycling-surveys-in-wales.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/151944/conwy-council-to-undertake-one-of-the-biggest-ever-recycling-surveys-in-wales.aspx)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on August 27, 2015, 09:04:05 am
Wonder how much notice will be taken of survey results!

Recycling target should be zero ... i.e. no waste ... not 50% or 60% or whatever figure someone comes up with.

But isn't the problem not that we all throw away so much, but the fact that we have so much we have to throw away ... is anyone addressing the fact that there is simply too much packaging on products ... tackle the problem at source.

... and conversely, how would we get cheap products made from re-cycled material if there was no re-cycled material in the first place!!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area ( Beach Litter)
Post by: SteveH on March 23, 2016, 01:00:07 pm
UK beach litter rises by a third, report finds

The amount of rubbish found dumped on UK beaches rose by a third last year, according to a new report.

More than 8,000 plastic bottles were collected by the Marine Conservation Society’s annual beach clean-up at seaside locations from Orkney to the Channel Islands on one weekend last September.
On average, 99 bottles were picked up along every kilometrecleaned by volunteers. It is estimated that plastic bottles can take up to 500 years to break down once in the sea.

The charity’s report reveals a 34% rise in beach litter overall between 2014 and 2015, the largest ever amount of litter per kilometre (3,298 pieces) and a record-breaking number of volunteers, just over 6,000, taking part.

“The bottles we find on beaches are either dropped directly onto the beach, blown from land or sea, or end up there via rivers. The more we use as a nation, the more we’ll see ending up on our shores.”

All countries saw an increase in litter, except Wales, where litter levels dropped after a record rise last year . However, in the last decade, average litter levels on Welsh beaches have increased by 51%. England suffered record levels of litter across 189 beaches.
MORE..http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/23/uk-beach-litter-rises-by-a-third-report-finds (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/23/uk-beach-litter-rises-by-a-third-report-finds)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2016, 05:08:39 pm
I wonder if the new bin collections will increase recycling.?

The amount people in Wales are recycling is on the up.
Nationally we are now recycling 59% of our waste but there are still huge regional variations. The 59% rate is above the Welsh Government’s target of 58% and up on the previous year.
But huge variations are shown between the 22 Welsh local authorities, Conwy BC stands 9th with 59% recycled.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/amount-people-wales-recycling-up-11393950# (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/amount-people-wales-recycling-up-11393950#)

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on May 27, 2016, 08:55:28 pm
Surely the target figure should be 0% ... there should be nothing to recycle - no waste.

The source of the problem does not seem to be getting tackled - i.e. the huge amount of packaging on everything bought in the stops.

No waste = nothing to recycle = no problems with landfill, etc.

Those of a certain age will recall the time when the amount of household waste hardly filled half a bin each week.  Packaging and newspapers would have been used on the coal fires, food waste would have gone on  the compost heap.  The only things in the bin would be the odd tin that some of the foodstuff came in.

Yes, my wife and I do recycle everything we can - it's a pain trying to deal with all the boxes and bins, then sorting out which ones to put out each week.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 17, 2016, 05:32:03 pm
Put our recycling bins out last night as usual, garden waste collected this morning but by 4pm the recycling had not been collected from me and at least two other properties. Rang up to complain and mentioned  that I had seen two recycling trucks drive slowly past without stopping!  I was told it would be collected within two working days, must mean by Tuesday! Let's hope we do not get windy weather in the meantime!  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: mull on June 18, 2016, 09:48:57 am
Same here on Mull. Put waste paper bin out last Tuesday and not emptied until yesterday. Excuse due to the lorry breaking down.
Problem were I live in the village is en route from the top car park to Iona ferry and people start using it for general rubbish eg dog poo, dirty nappies.
No answer to this problem so far.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 20, 2016, 07:32:13 am
They have just collected the recycling from us, we noticed that a nearby road had also been missed last Friday!  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on June 20, 2016, 08:02:55 am
One problems with recycling is the garden waste collection system. It makes sense to have a weekly collection between May and September, fortnightly for April and October then once every three or four weeks for the winter months. At this time of the year we're filling enough bags to fuel a power station by ourselves, yet during winter the bags barely go out. I'd have thought they could adapt to that.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 20, 2016, 08:48:57 am
We had 6 bags of gardening waste out a couple of weeks ago, they only emptied 4, no idea why? Perhaps the truck was getting full?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on June 20, 2016, 09:11:25 am
Possibly.  Everyone is producing a huge amount of garden waste at the moment, so I think they need to move to a more flexible model of collection.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 20, 2016, 10:22:31 am
Not unexpected at this time ever of year, unless it involves forward  planning by CCBC!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on July 30, 2016, 11:02:36 am
Call to ban polystyrene fast food containers following success of carrier bag charge......... $good$

England is today celebrating that six billion fewer plastic bags are set to be taken home this year after the country adopted a charge pioneered in Wales.
Single use carrier bags stopped being given away for free in Wales in 2011. Bag usage reduced by 71% between 2011 and 2014 and the 5p charge raised up to £22m for good causes during this time.

The UK Government reports today that the 5p charge in England has raised more than £29m for good causes.
More than seven billion carrier bags were issued by seven main retailers in England in 2014, but this has fallen to “just over half a billion in the first six months” of the 5p charge being in place.

Gill Bell of the Marine Conservation Society (MCS) now wants the Welsh Government to lead the way once more and supports a ban on polystyrene fast food packaging.
There is a key concern that polystyrene breaks down into tiny fragments which release toxic chemicals in the water – and also attract other toxic chemicals to their surface. The MCS points out that more than 100 North American and European cities have either banned polystyrene food packaging or are about to.

“Everyone has a responsibility to play their part in ensuring that we all have a more positive impact on the environment which we too often take for granted.”

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/call-ban-polystyrene-fast-food-11681553 (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/call-ban-polystyrene-fast-food-11681553)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on September 29, 2016, 09:40:25 pm
Having had our recycling trolley bis emptied just the once in the last five weeks, and then by special arrangement after several complaints, I am at the point of opting out altogether.
It all started when the department responsible decided to re-organise our local collection. They decided to change our house from a trolley box to green wheelie bins, which we don't have and they won't give us as we are a 2 person household. If we put our trolley box out at the same point as next door who do have a green wheelie bin, ours is ignored whilst next door's bins are emptied. I'm told that's because trolley boxes have 5 different categories, bins only 3 and the combinations are different ( eh? Make sense of that if you will). The other houses along our road have trolley bins but if we put ours out they just drive past as we are not on the list for collection.
Frustrated? You bet !
It's 100m to our pick up point so the containers stay there until such a time as they are emptied. In the meantime rubbish backs up in the house.
Try phoning the refuse department in Mochdre and it's worse than phoning BT. You are usually hanging on for someone to answer for at least 15 minutes. After at least 6 or 7 calls trying to get someone to action our problem I have got fed up of complaining, fed up of sitting waiting in a phone queue waiting for them to answer. I took their automated voice advice and sent an email.An automated response told me they promised to look in to the content and respond within 10 working days....2 weeks. :rage:
I informed them that it doesn't take a genius just to add us to the correct list for scheduled collection. Their verbal responses of referring my problem to the supervisor shouldn't be needed, it doesn't take a genius to solve a simple problem. :rage:
However, the ultimatum is that if they don't collect the recycling tomorrow, the day everyone else's trolley boxes gets sorted (and the one we used to be on) I will simply throw everything in to my black wheelie bin, at least that gets emptied still, albeit every three weeks. :o
Oh, and I requested they deliver an extra black wheelie bin to make up for it. WWW

Tomorrow is going to be interesting.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on September 29, 2016, 11:22:35 pm
It's an embarrassing shambles isn't it?
It's about EU recycling targets, (but we are leaving the EU allegedly), coupled with the desperate need to save money.  Yet they can still pay outrageous and undeserved salaries to endless layers of management and vast amounts to CCBC staff who have been off work sick with 'stress' for over a year!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on September 30, 2016, 06:15:14 am
I'm a big fan of recycling so dumping all my rubbish in one container is not something I want to do.
I do wonder how the Recycling dept work if whoever answers the phone can arrange to deliver as many bins and bags as requested ( at no expense to the household) yet can't make a simple decision to change our collection day to fit in with what is the obvious emptying round.
Don't mention stress or you'll start me off. I had a married work colleague who took a year off with stress whilst starting up their own business. Nothing you could do about it, just had to cover for them. They resigned a week after coming back to work. When I look back now I think who was the mug? Everyone is at it now.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on September 30, 2016, 06:25:18 pm
I know you have all been anxiously waiting on my news, once again the collection lorry ignored our trolley boxes.. Black wheelie bin from now on and I'm considering leaving my trolley box outside the council offices to see how long they take to empty it there.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on October 01, 2016, 02:06:05 pm
I know you have all been anxiously waiting on my news, once again the collection lorry ignored our trolley boxes.. Black wheelie bin from now on and I'm considering leaving my trolley box outside the council offices to see how long they take to empty it there.

You were left with little choice Dave.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on October 01, 2016, 02:54:25 pm
Dave,

Why don't you go to the top and e-mail Councillor Dave Cowans he is the Cabinet Member for Environmental Services which includes refuse collection etc.His e-mail is cllr.dave.cowans@conwy.gov.uk
I'm sure he would be very interested in what has been going on and you may if your lucky get a result  ££$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on October 01, 2016, 03:42:25 pm
Thanks Meleri, I have sent him an email as well as a link to this thread.
We'll see what happens next, indeed we'll see how long it takes to get a response of any kind.
cheers Dave
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2016, 12:12:33 pm
Received an apologetic phone call from someone on the council who's name and position I failed to grasp. He was phoning as a result of the email to Councillor Cowans being forwarded to him. He has assured me he will look in to it and make sure that the right person actions the necessary to ensure the recycling is collected this week.
Included in the conversation were multiple apologies, mentions of someone being off sick ( stress no doubt), and promises to look in to it and deal with the situation.
I told him I don't want apologies I just want my recycling collecting.

What should have happened is a phone call telling me that action has been taken. You are now back on your correct day for collection, but in the meantime can we send someone to collect your rubbish as it must be growing in volume considerably by now.

Going to the top so to speak makes a difference but it shouldn't be necessary.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2016, 01:30:54 pm
Very true Dave, it really shouldn't be necessary, it just illustrates that the layers of line management are unable to deal with a simple issue.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2016, 05:12:40 pm
Well someone got their backsides in gear and came and emptied our bins late this afternoon. Had we known that was going to happen we could have taken a whole load more down to the collection point but enough of that, we should be satisfied that at least half has gone now.
I wonder how much influence this forum has had on the outcome? Certainly the suggestion to email Cllr Cowans seemed to get thing moving, mind you he must be a busy man. He forwarded my email but didn't have time to CC me on who it had been passed to, nor the time to tell me he had done something about it. Left that to the minion.
I wonder if they are reading this? It would do them the world of good to do so, along with all our other representatives and employees who's wages we pay.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: born2run on October 27, 2016, 01:40:17 pm
More and more people are complaining about this now - I've seen three posts on my facebook just this morning. Isn't there a petition or demonstration or some action that can be done?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on April 28, 2017, 02:31:52 pm
Our black bin was due to be emptied 10 days ago. My wife 'phoned the Environment dept and was assured it would be done. She made three more calls over several days and I eventually filled in the form on the website.  All to no avail. Today, at 1220, I emailed Dave Cowans who has responsibility for the department. At 1410 it was emptied.

It shouldn't take having to 'phone the cllr in charge for a response. But many thanks and Kudos to Dave Cowans.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2017, 03:27:48 pm
I noticed on Thursday, the garden waste team in new Biffa overalls, is it just this team or is all waste services contracted out ?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: TheMedz on April 28, 2017, 04:45:20 pm
I noticed on Thursday, the garden waste team in new Biffa overalls, is it just this team or is all waste services contracted out ?
Maybe that would explain why they didn't bother taking mine away this week and resulted in me having to take  it to Mochdre tip in the back of the car.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on May 19, 2017, 03:25:21 pm
Recycling body criticises Pringles and Lucozade packaging.

The Recycling Association named them in a list of products that pose the biggest challenges for reuse.

Informative article.....  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39953209 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39953209)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 19, 2017, 04:06:04 pm
I saw a guy on TV yesterday talking about those packages and some containers, for example Coffee Mate are as bad as the Pringles package.
They contain a number of different materials and I never know which stacker bin they should go in. 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on May 20, 2017, 12:55:59 am
I keep trying to weigh up cleaning fluid bottles and various types of food packaging....

My next door neighbour ( a CCBC Manager who was instrumental in bringing in the stacker bins scheme)  kept telling me I was wrong, ... so from that that point on, I gave up, they go to landfill... simple!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on October 27, 2017, 12:56:28 pm
With the news in the NWWN  this week that from next Wednesday there will be a charge for getting rid of non household waste at the Mochdre waste disposal site the place has been busier than usual
I was there twice yesterday and once this morning but I'll be there again this afternoon.

At least it has given me the incentive to get rid of some items and have a good clear out but from next Wednesday it will all have to be paid for.     It's economy measures by the CCBC but will it lead to an increase in fly tipping now that people have to pay for getting rid of unwanted non household items.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2017, 01:12:41 pm
I agree, I think it will be a false ecomomy, the costs mentioned by CCBC  for clearing fly tipping, is extremely high, also I suspect a greater use of the black bins, will cause further problems.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bosun on October 27, 2017, 01:43:04 pm
I have discussed this with my neighbours and we are all in agreement; that this is stupid and extremely short-sighted move that will without doubt be a huge blight the Conwy.

It is my intention in twelve months time to make a Freedom of Information demand for the costs of dealing with fly-tipping over the past five years.  We can now start placing bets now on the increase in the next twelve months over previous years. 500%? 1000%?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: squigglev2 on October 27, 2017, 01:50:32 pm
Perhaps they would be better trying what our local council does with what they call DIY waste?  I don't know how they monitor it but you are restricted to 1 large (eg. a bath or a door) item or an 80L bag per week free of charge at the recycling centres.

https://www.norfolk.gov.uk/rubbish-recycling-and-planning/rubbish-and-recycling/diy-waste (https://www.norfolk.gov.uk/rubbish-recycling-and-planning/rubbish-and-recycling/diy-waste)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: born2run on October 27, 2017, 01:54:23 pm
The council seem to take the Texan approach with a lot of things - this being a primer.
Instead of setting aside cost to make sure problems don't happen, they set aside cost to fix the problems.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on October 27, 2017, 04:27:30 pm
I've just come back from the Recycling place in Mochdre and the place was in gridlock.  I waited about 20 minutes before I moved in the queue but in all fairness to the staff it wasn't their fault at all.
The sheer volume of traffic trying to get rid of materials before Wednesday's charges was unprecedented and the staff were on the ball and helping everyone there.

More fly tipping and more non household stuff going in the black bin is inevitable in my opinion following these charges
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on October 27, 2017, 11:30:28 pm
But the vast majority of household waste will still be free to dispose of, what’s the panic here?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2017, 02:42:39 pm
But the vast majority of household waste will still be free to dispose of, what’s the panic here?

I hope that I am wrong but you'll soon see what the problem is.     At the moment the tipping at the Mochdre site is free but fly tipping is still a big problem, so what is it going to be like when it's not free to tip there?

I've just come back from Mochdre after taking a car load of tiles down there and it was jam packed with others doing the same.  I'll be there again this afternoon and possibly tomorrow.   If I have any more on Wednesday then I'll have to pay for the privilege of doing it and would never consider fly tipping but not everyone can afford it and some are unscrupulous anyway.

Bri Roberts, hope that you have got that fence panel now, because if not it'll cost you at least another £4.00 on Wednesday to get rid of it      :o
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: squigglev2 on October 30, 2017, 04:19:00 pm
I suspect Hugo is right and that any charge will put some off using the facility.  I'd still be interested in his views regarding how what I see as a compromise position might work, ie. one where the amount of stuff you can dispose of in a week is restricted.  That way, Brian would still be able to dispose of his old fence panel for free but would either have to pay or dispose of more in stages.

I'm not aware of the state of fly tipping in this area which may simply mean i don't go where it happens.  An annoyance to me is a different dumping. Car drivers seem to use a road junction close by as a dumping ground for takeaway packaging, I guess throw out at this stopping point before going the last mile or two home.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on October 31, 2017, 02:02:33 pm
I'm sure you can guarantee fly tipping will increase which will in turn prove expensive if the council then have to clear it up. A word of warning though, if someone dumps rubbish on your land it's your responsibility to get rid of it, it has to be on public land for the council to get involved. There are many who couldn't be bothered to drive an extra mile or two to dispose of their rubbish before charges came in, it's bound to increase now. It also encourages households to have bonfires to dispose of certain types of rubbish too, such as fence panels whereas I would have though they were of some use if they were recycled them.
What I find particularly annoying though is that if evidence is found linking the rubbish disposed of to an address it is of little use as the person who originally owned the rubbish can claim they paid someone to take it away and it was not of their doing. The tippers have to be caught in the act which makes it very, very difficult to prosecute the guilty parties.

As far as reducing council costs by implementing charges I would have thought that a successful recycling programme could be self funding, there is a lot of metal and reusable household items that have an obvious value to start with. I'm told glass is ground down and added to tar and stones to make road coverings, paper is recycled too. Building rubble becomes hard core etc etc.
If the council really want to reduce costs they could begin by looking inwardly at under employed staff, overpaid management and big spending on things like council offices and the likes. Certainly household rates have gone up beyond the level of inflation for several years and yet we seem to get less and less in the way of a return.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: llewelyn on October 31, 2017, 06:08:34 pm
I do know a couple of council staff and the stories they tell me make me angry, not with them but their bosses. To get a very good salary for very little effort. lots of sickness absence on full pay. No private employer would operate this way.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: squigglev2 on November 01, 2017, 06:53:12 pm
I do know a couple of council staff and the stories they tell me make me angry, not with them but their bosses. To get a very good salary for very little effort. lots of sickness absence on full pay. No private employer would operate this way.

Not specificlly recycling but i reply to t he above comment,,,

Pretty well impoaiible to give a view there LL, without going beyond reasonableness for this forum but I do know my father who opted out after a spell ill  health and a chance to get back to Pydew was of a view, shall I say even above him when he worked at LL and later Bodlondeb would not have survived his once business world (managing a branch at the end in affluent Tundbridge wells and with the only promotions routes a London job or maybe a regional manager’’. For  a Three towns Reference, I think he opened or at least was early in CB, Abbey on Penhryn Road/??

Your comment isn’t clear but I’d doubt even he would see the privitisaion together with layers of profit fore shareholders as a solution.

He’s pretty old now and can have “bad times” but maybe I can try to ask him on experiences both in private and public if you like?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on November 02, 2017, 04:41:00 pm
Mr M went to the Recycling Centre at Mochdre this morning as we were unable to get there before the cut off date for charging was implemented. On arrival he was told the ticket machines were out of order so no charge  ;D
When will CCBC get it right  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 02, 2017, 04:45:36 pm
You jammy person Meleri,     I've got some more stuff to go there and will probably have more after the plasterer and tiler have completed their work on my house.

I've taken about 8 car loads full this week but there's a lot more still to go     :'(
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on November 15, 2017, 05:59:18 pm
Monthly bin collections for ALL households look set to be rolled out by council.

Article and 23 comments....
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/monthly-bin-collections-households-look-13904296 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/monthly-bin-collections-households-look-13904296)


Just noticed this story from Flintshire,
Garden waste collection charges to be introduced by this North Wales council
The authority believes the changes could generate an additional £958,000 a year as it battles to balance the books

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/garden-waste-collection-charges-introduced-13905007 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/garden-waste-collection-charges-introduced-13905007)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2017, 06:14:53 pm
I wonder what the extra cost for fly tipping will now be for the Council now that charges are being introduced.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2017, 03:59:52 pm
I wonder what the extra cost for fly tipping will now be for the Council now that charges are being introduced.

Hundreds of thousands of pounds in taxpayers’ money is being forked out to clear up after fly-tippers.

Between them local authorities in North Wales paid £305,660 to tidy up illegally dumped waste across the region in 2016/17.
Councils recorded a total of 5,975 incidents of fly-tipping - a 4.3 per cent rise compared with the previous year.

But just three people were prosecuted in North Wales in relation to offences of fly-tipping - two in Denbighshire and one in Conwy.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fly-tippers-costing-taxpayers-hundreds-13911530 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fly-tippers-costing-taxpayers-hundreds-13911530)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bosun on November 17, 2017, 09:17:27 am
Local lady went to Mochre with an Asda carrier bag of bits of wood from her garden fence. She was told that it was DIY waste and it would cost her £3 for them to recieve it. She demurred, and they told her to take it home and put it in her black bin. Which she did.

A brilliant system.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 17, 2017, 10:03:20 am
I've just come back from Mochdre after taking two large paint tins of rubble there ( equal to a bag of rubble)   and the cost was £3.00.
The place was deserted apart from the people who work there.   They are always polite and helpful when I've been there before but this time they took the tins to the skip for me.
It looked like I was the first person to call there today, which was completely different to my last visit when the cars were queuing back to Dinerth Road waiting to go in to the waste  disposal site before they started charging
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 17, 2017, 05:26:50 pm
I can see many people burning waste in the back garden, Bevans in the Bay View Centre have very good garden incinerators for just £10!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on November 17, 2017, 05:51:30 pm
I got a nice hand axe from B&M, (great shop that), and I’m going to chop up all my garden waste and fencing in the spring, and put it in the chimnea which has not been used in 10years.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 17, 2017, 07:51:18 pm
I can see many people burning waste in the back garden, Bevans in the Bay View Centre have very good garden incinerators for just £10!

what!    I've recently paid them £15.00 for mine.       :'(               :rage:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2017, 09:05:17 pm
So on top of the expected rise in fly tipping, the air quality is going to suffer.....  WWW
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on November 18, 2017, 08:14:43 am
And it seems fly tipping continues to get worse (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42025235)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bosun on November 21, 2017, 08:40:53 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/monthly-bin-collections-households-rejected-13929979 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/monthly-bin-collections-households-rejected-13929979)

For a change, common sense.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 21, 2017, 10:49:27 am
Common sense should prevail.     $good$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2017, 03:45:49 pm
My house roof has been leaking and this week we had a roofer there to fix it.   He did an excellent job and as a result I've got about 36 old concrete roof tiles to take back to the Mochdre Waste Disposal site.    He also filled 4 garden bags with moss but
they can be collected with the normal  household collection rubbish.
I took the 36 tiles back to Mochdre today and they were weighed and the cost was £18.00.   It was very quiet there with about 3 or 4 vehicles disposing of rubbish but the person I spoke to said that business has definitely slowed down since the charges were imposed.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: mull on November 22, 2017, 05:57:47 pm
Think I would have buried the roof tiles in the garden.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: mondie on November 22, 2017, 07:15:42 pm
yeah, that or have snuck a few in the bin each month  :P

Its weather like today that reminds me how silly our recycling system is. Our house is very open and we end up with a yard full or recycling getting blown around. On my lunchtime walk today and there are individual recycling bins blown all over the place with their trolleys laying on their side stripped of all containers. Why does CCBC recycle this way, is it due to a lack of sorting station as it makes no sense?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2017, 10:26:46 pm
I was disappointed to read in the NWWN that the fly tippers have been in action on the top of the Great Orme.   It's not surprising, but CCBC have got to do something about it before it gets out of hand and they should install CCTV cameras or covert cameras on the Orme.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2017, 12:36:57 pm
My house roof has been leaking and this week we had a roofer there to fix it.   He did an excellent job and as a result I've got about 36 old concrete roof tiles to take back to the Mochdre Waste Disposal site.    He also filled 4 garden bags with moss but
they can be collected with the normal  household collection rubbish.
I took the 36 tiles back to Mochdre today and they were weighed and the cost was £18.00.   It was very quiet there with about 3 or 4 vehicles disposing of rubbish but the person I spoke to said that business has definitely slowed down since the charges were imposed.

Any chance you can recommend the roofer please Hugo?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on November 24, 2017, 06:42:33 pm
His name is Gareth Williams and his mobile number is 07768004776 and I must say how pleased we were with his work.   He was recommended to me by a plasterer who has worked on my house recently and I've spoken to others since, who have been very pleased with his work also.
Our house needed scaffolding but his son is a scaffolder and it was all arranged for us.    Both prices were very reasonable    $good$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2017, 10:21:09 pm
Brilliant.. thanks. 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 01, 2017, 10:32:07 am
I can see many people burning waste in the back garden, Bevans in the Bay View Centre have very good garden incinerators for just £10!

Works well! This was some woodworm infested plywood!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 01, 2017, 10:33:16 am
It's the right way up on my phone!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 01, 2017, 10:42:29 am
Send a message to Ian and he will turn it for you.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on December 01, 2017, 02:52:27 pm
It looks good on its side just like a rocket.      I could do with that inside my house right now, that some serious burning ME.  $good$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 01, 2017, 08:16:27 pm
Know what you men Hugo, we have just had a new boiler to replace ours which was well over 30 years old and spent almost 48 hours without heat or hot water whilst it was fitted. It was like going back 50 years to when all we had was a coal fire ! We now have clouds of steam shooting out into the back yard !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 01, 2017, 10:24:05 pm
Thanks for correcting the image Ian!   $good$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on December 02, 2017, 08:11:49 am
 $thanx$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on December 05, 2017, 06:06:34 pm
Conwy Council shelve plans for a 4 week black bin collection



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42243420 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42243420)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on December 06, 2017, 10:30:02 pm
The wind is over 40 mph outside and it's bin day tomorrow, it'll be interesting to see if anyone has put their bin out tonight.
Mine's in the garage and staying there until the morning
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 06, 2017, 10:39:42 pm
No wind down here, Hugo.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on December 07, 2017, 09:34:42 am
You're lucky then Bri,  I took my dog for a walk yesterday and didn't go on my normal walk as the tall trees were swaying like mad and I didn't fancy one landing on my bonce.
Those trees were near to this one that came down a while ago when I went out one morning with my dog
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on January 23, 2018, 04:47:37 pm
Conwy Council bin collections to be every four weeks
Councillors have voted to try out monthly bin collections in Conwy.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 23, 2018, 06:56:35 pm
"The cabinet also decided to put extra measures in place to help residents recycle, including free collection of large items"

Wonder what that will comprise?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2018, 12:29:13 am
Conwy Council bin collections to be every four weeks
Councillors have voted to try out monthly bin collections in Conwy.

Hang on, that was only voted upon and instantly dismissed by a large majority only a month or so ago.
What’s changed “
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 24, 2018, 08:16:07 am
The specific committee involved threw it out, and then the council as a whole decided to reinstate it.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on January 24, 2018, 09:09:06 am
The scrutiny comittee went against the four week bin idea it had to go to cabinet ,this new cabinet didn't have the guts to go with that so it had to go back to scrutiny who still said no to four week so yesterday cabinet voted the four week ,one Tory member ( mayor in kinmell bay lied and said he'd had no objections ,But he'd received loads   It's going to cost more to clean the flytipping ,  another thing Andrew wilkinson the manager in charge admitted to me that the trolley blocks were not big enough says it all with this council 😡
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 24, 2018, 10:32:01 am
Yes...this really does belong in the CCBC Incompetence topic...
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on January 24, 2018, 04:24:54 pm
I think I have found out the reason why the Cabinet have voted for the 4 week bin collection.

CCBC have been doing a trial in some areas of 4 weekly collections and the findings are the recycling increased by 14% in those areas, whereas the 3 weekly collection only increased by 4%. Also the 4 weekly areas reduced the amount of refuse in the wheelie bins by 31% and the 3 weekly only 20%.


At the Cabinet meeting the description of alternatives considered were:-

Option A) Do Nothing. There will be a revenue budget shortfall of £100,000 therefore a revenue budget overspend.

Option B) Maintain current level of refuse collection with £100,000 support to align revenue budget with democratic decision.

Option C)  Based on a future democratic decision there will be a £240,000 saving on the existing budget.


So it looks as if the Cabinet didn't have much choice if they are looking for cutting costs. I don't agree with the 4 weekly collection especially in the summer months, but I'm sure the rats, flies and seagulls will be in their element.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2018, 04:27:58 pm
They did have a choice Meleri.
2 in fact,
1, Look at cutting out some of the inept, useless and overpaid management at CCBC.
2, Stop wasting money and time on ‘Scrutiny Committees’ which they ignore the output from anyway!

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on January 24, 2018, 05:09:09 pm
Very fair points there Fester but who is going to tell them that, hardly going to take their snouts out of the trough are they.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on January 26, 2018, 03:02:38 pm
If anyone is interested in watching the Cabinet debate regarding the 4 weekly bin collections and how they came to the decision it can now be viewed on the Conwy County Council Webcast Portal. Look for 'Cabinet Tuesday 23rd January 2018 2pm'. You don't have to watch the whole meeting go to 9a) Savings from refuse collection & increased recycling, then click on Watch. You will be able to see for yourselves who voted for and against and why they voted that way, there are some very interesting comments. Good to see they are being open about it and not making decisions behind closed doors. I very much admire the comments made by Cll. Sam Rowlands.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 26, 2018, 04:10:10 pm
I cannot understand how nine people are allowed to make a decision on behalf of the 120,000 residents of Conwy County resulting in a 5-4 majority result without any consultation with our residents.

One of my two councillors once included ‘Save Llandudno Hospital’ in his name on a ballot paper to secure my vote but this time he certainly has not consulted with his constituents, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on February 08, 2018, 04:30:05 pm
A special meeting of CCBC has been arranged for 26th February regarding the proposed 4 weekly bin collections. The meeting will allow all democratically elected Councillors to have their say on the matter. Personally I think they should all be able to vote on it and not leave it to The Cabinet to decide.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on February 26, 2018, 03:36:47 pm
Councillors ask for rethink on monthly bin collections
Councillors are divided over whether the four-weekly plans are a good idea.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/monthly-bin-collections-plans-put-14338808 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/monthly-bin-collections-plans-put-14338808)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on February 27, 2018, 02:45:05 pm
I have just watched the Webcast of the 'Special Meeting' that was called to discuss the 4 weekly bin collections. There were an awful lot of very angry Councillors, but they were warned the Council cannot overrule Cabinet decisions and any Councillor who tried to do so at length would be asked to sit down and would have their microphone switched off (which wasn't a good start) It was decided to ask the cabinet to reconsider, taking into consideration everything that was said at the meeting. It became apparent as the meeting went on not all changes/charges have been put in place or even agreed, so that was another reason many Councillors wanted it to be put on hold until the department who deal with the rubbish/recycling had got their act together. The decision on these matters should have gone to the Overview & Scrutiny Committee first and then to the Cabinet and one Councillor was furious that it hadn't as it wasn't democratic.
A lot of the meeting was lost on me and some of the Councillors seemed confused as to what they were voting on. At one point a Councillor had asked for the usual 5 minutes of each Councillor having their say could be suspended so they could have longer and perhaps speak more than once, so this was put to the vote and agreed.
One Councillor asked if the charges for taking items to the tip since it was implemented, could be compared to the cost of what clearing up the fly tipping was costing, then presented to the Cabinet at their next meeting. (Good One) Also what hasn't been agreed on is bulky item removal costs from households by CCBC. One proposal was one free item per household per year and then £5 for each item after, which is different to what it is at present. They also proposed 'skip days' for rural areas where supervised skips would be taken to certain areas for households to deposit bulky items for free. There was a lot more but if you are interested you can watch it on the Webcast.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 14, 2018, 10:55:27 am
Monthly bin collections for all county's homes from September
Conwy's cabinet gives its unanimous backing to controversial scheme

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/monthly-bin-collections-countys-homes-14407066 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/monthly-bin-collections-countys-homes-14407066)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 21, 2018, 10:02:39 am
Nearly 6,000 fly-tipping incidents in North Wales ... so why only three prosecutions?
New figures reveal the scourge of illegally dumped waste across the region.

Across the whole of Wales over the same period there were 69 prosecutions out of 38,580 recorded incidents.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nearly-6000-fly-tipping-incidents-14436588 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nearly-6000-fly-tipping-incidents-14436588)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on July 28, 2018, 05:18:35 pm
This story makes a nice change,   :D.............. well done to the boy's for their initiative

TWO boys described as “little heroes” have been praised by hundreds of residents after undertaking a river clean up.

Ryan Evans, 12, and his friend Ryan Patton, were heading to the beach in Old Colwyn when Ryan (Evans) phoned his mother Hazel to say they were no longer at the beach - but instead, had decided to go to the river.

Alarmed at first, Hazel was left reassured after the boys, who told her they were clearing out the river after noticing a large amount of rubbish.  REF Pioneer    http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16382292.boys-12-praised-after-cleaning-up-river-in-old-colwyn/?ref=mr&lp=1 (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16382292.boys-12-praised-after-cleaning-up-river-in-old-colwyn/?ref=mr&lp=1) 

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2018, 02:49:43 pm
I was not sure which topic , here, or "Special awards"
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 24, 2018, 03:26:34 pm
That's taking the pith! 😏
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2018, 03:39:34 pm
That's taking the pith! 😏

Hardly appealing, is it......... ;)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: snowcap on August 24, 2018, 10:33:27 pm
they may have been to a strip club
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2018, 04:15:00 pm
I caught the tale end of a piece on Counrtyfile,...........MacRebur® LTD recycling plastics, combined with tarmac for use on roads the main points being they can use many types of plastic, also reuse what is already in landfill, and the end result is a more durable road surface, it is in the early stages of development,.......we need thinking like this.       

https://www.macrebur.com/the-product/ (https://www.macrebur.com/the-product/)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on November 22, 2018, 11:21:31 am
Another project.another grant, more funding, is it me or does nothing get done anymore without this type of financial input, I am not disputing the good intention behind this venture, however £1,000,000 seems a lot, and are we getting our monies worth, assuming this is tax payer funded. ?

Conwy county is set to share in more than £1 million worth of funding for a project to reduce waste and increase recycling.

The environment minister, Hannah Blythyn, will today announce eight new projects across Wales, worth £5.4 million, with a new 'green shed' in Colwyn Bay to be among the projects to receive funding.

The 'green shed' will see the community involved in preparing items to be reused.

Mrs Blythyn said: “One of the best ways to reduce waste is to repair and refurbish items so they can be reused and some of these projects will improve facilities to enable this. We’re also investing in a pilot schools project to reduce waste and instill good habits from a young age.

“Where materials can’t be re-used, the next best method is to recycle, so we’re also investing in the machinery to better manage recyclable items.

“Wales is first in the UK, second in Europe and third in the world for household recycling, so out track record speaks for itself. The proportion of waste we recycle in Wales has increased dramatically, from 5% in 1999 to 63% last year.

“This range of new projects will not only help reduce waste in the coming years, it should lead to a cultural change in the longer term, helping us achieve our ambition to become a ‘Zero Waste Nation’ by 2050.”    REF Pioneer
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on November 23, 2018, 04:36:50 pm
This looked like an interesting solution to plastic usage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-43418391/the-firm-turning-plastic-into-oil (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-43418391/the-firm-turning-plastic-into-oil)

I still think that more should be done to put pressure on manufactures and retailers to use packaging that is easy to recycle
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on December 13, 2018, 10:10:00 am
As a 2 person household I haven't had much of an issue over the change to 4 weekly big bin collections. In fact our landfill bin is usually half empty even after 4 weeks as we recycle everything we can. We can even manage if we miss a collection if we are away and have to wait another 4 weeks for the bin to be emptied.
That was until now.
An extra week's ash from the coal fire makes the bin almost too heavy to manage, no way can we afford to miss a collection now.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Blongb on December 15, 2018, 12:38:50 pm
It's not the best service, as this last Thursday I put my half full black bin out for disposal. I don't know why but although my neighbours bin, which was next to it, was emptied, mine wasn't. Fortunately where I live there is more than one way to skin a cat.  ;)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area..................XMAS BINS
Post by: SteveH on December 22, 2018, 10:27:40 am
Conwy
As with all the local councils, collections in Conwy have also been amended.

Households whose waste is usually collected on a Monday will have to unload excess wrapping paper and the like on Saturday 22, which is their substitute for a Christmas week collection - though Monday 31 will go ahead as usual.

Collections usually on a Tuesday will instead take place on Monday 24 and Wednesday 2 January.

Local councils have made special arrangements to reduce the impact of the two bank holidays next week. (Image: PA)
And waste normally picked up on a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday will instead be a day late between December 26 and January 5.

Alongside these changes, it's important to note that the Council will not be collecting garden, electrical or textile waste between Saturday 22 and Friday 4.

Residents of Conwy can expect collection days to return to the normal from January 7.        REF DP

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on February 16, 2019, 11:05:09 am
This looked like an interesting solution to plastic usage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-43418391/the-firm-turning-plastic-into-oil (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-43418391/the-firm-turning-plastic-into-oil)

I still think that more should be done to put pressure on manufactures and retailers to use packaging that is easy to recycle

This article was surprising..............

Plant-based compostable plastics going to landfill.          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47238220 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47238220)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2019, 02:56:13 pm
CONWY is among the UK's top twenty areas when it comes to plastic recycling.

It’s Wales that leads UK with the most towns, cities and counties making the top 20 list.

Conwy county is placed 10th having recycled 1,744 tonnes of plastic between 2017 and 2018, according to the
In total the Welsh sent 43,877 tonnes of plastic for recycling between 2017-2018 which weighs 3.5 times more than the Severn Bridge.
Cont...... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17739507.conwy-among-top-20-best-for-recycling-plastic/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17739507.conwy-among-top-20-best-for-recycling-plastic/)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 02, 2019, 12:16:26 pm
Heartbreaking photos showing North Wales' beautiful beaches dotted with litter have emerged online.

As temperatures soar, holiday makers have flocked to the region's breathtaking beaches in a bid to make the most of the summer.
But the increase in footfall at the seaside has also meant a rise in the amount of rubbish being left behind.

Over the last few weeks, residents who have become sick of cleaning up after other inconsiderate litter bugs have rallied together online to shame those dumping their rubbish.https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pictures-showing-beautiful-beaches-covered-16681566 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pictures-showing-beautiful-beaches-covered-16681566)

They did not mention that recycling trolley's were destroyed in the fire.   $angry$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2019, 10:02:09 am
Valid point........
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on August 04, 2019, 11:30:45 am
Nice one Steve and that sums it all up        $good$


Many years ago I was at a private party and was introduced to a local Councillor.      I didn't know the guy but Councillor B went on at great length, as some Councillors do about banning dogs from the beach at the West Shore.
So I told him straight that I didn't walk my dog on the beach as the beach was too dirty for my dog and suggested to him that he focuses his attention more on the human activity that pollutes the beaches
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2019, 05:06:31 pm
After the bank holiday there was the usual chat, regarding waste bins, not enough or not emptied, apparently Conwy Morfa was a disgrace,
only two bins ? and overflowing, and I have just read this "Llyn Padarn in Llanberis" article, not a pretty !sight!, or maybe it is :(  I could not help thinking how neat the piled rubbish looked, compared to the coast, dread to think what gulls would have done.

Litter, traffic and people pooing in bushes - what locals say a bank holiday is like at this beauty spot
A petition has been started in a bid to address the problems at Llyn Padarn in Llanberis.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/litter-traffic-people-pooing-bushes-16822782 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/litter-traffic-people-pooing-bushes-16822782)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on August 28, 2019, 05:25:07 pm
Marine Drive around the Orme was in a mess on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2019, 01:03:57 pm
Even if demand has decreased, I would have thought this service paid for itself, or are we giving it to Biffa ?


Conwy Council could be about to slash the number of recycling banks it operates.

Councillors will be presented with plans that would see the igloo style recycling banks for paper, cans, glass, and plastics scrapped.
The authority currently provides recycling banks at 32 locations throughout the county which require servicing by a specialist collection vehicle which costs £90,000 a year.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17902927.plans-see-igloo-style-recycling-banks-paper-cans-glass-plastics-scrapped-across-conwy/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17902927.plans-see-igloo-style-recycling-banks-paper-cans-glass-plastics-scrapped-across-conwy/)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 21, 2019, 10:32:43 am
Anti-balloon campaign in Anglesey over 'sky-tipping'

Hundreds of sky lanterns and balloons have been found strewn around the coast of Anglesey.

The island's council is urging the public to avoid using balloons where possible to cut down on "sky-tipping".

In 2017, the Friends of the Isle of Anglesey Coastal Path (FAOCP) found the remnants of 879 balloons and sky lanterns on and around the island's coastal path.

As well as being unsightly, they can injure or trap land animals and fish.                 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49775947 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49775947)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2019, 09:54:56 am
UK gardeners 'punished by quiet green tax' for kerbside collections.

Analysis shows some UK councils charge up to £100 a year for a kerbside collection, despite one in four councils providing a free service.

Critics say the service should be free to residents to reduce the amount of clippings being sent to landfill.

Councils say the service is not statutory and home composting is a cheaper alternative.
The BBC's Shared Data Unit looked at the annual subscription charges levied by local councils for regular kerbside garden waste collections.
More than 140 local authorities provide a free collection, but charges for other councils range from £22 to £96.

cont... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49085346 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49085346)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on October 19, 2019, 10:46:48 am
I caught the tale end of a piece on Counrtyfile,...........MacRebur® LTD recycling plastics, combined with tarmac for use on roads the main points being they can use many types of plastic, also reuse what is already in landfill, and the end result is a more durable road surface, it is in the early stages of development,.......we need thinking like this.       
https://www.macrebur.com/the-product/ (https://www.macrebur.com/the-product/)

I received a newsletter this week, from local councillors , one of the items " Where does our plastic go"....  "all local plastics are recycled in the UK, nothing sent abroad"  :) ....   "the plastic waste is sorted at the waste depot in Abergele, ......and sent to various outlets including a firm in Scotland (see above quote and link ) who use it in road construction."

 
Title: Re: Recycling across the World
Post by: SteveH on November 10, 2019, 03:38:07 pm
Interesting video, dealing with ocean pollution, studies found a percentage of the worlds rivers were the main cause, especially after rain storms inland, ergo clean up the rivers first before it reaches the ocean.

On October 26 2019, Boyan Slat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyan_Slat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyan_Slat) presented the plan to address the main source of ocean plastic: rivers. We aim to tackle the 1,000 most polluting rivers, responsible for about 80% of ocean plastic pollution, before the end of 2025.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyZArQMFhQ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyZArQMFhQ4)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2019, 04:34:28 pm
We have all seen the aftermath of fly tipping, now enjoy this........    _))*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHk7lta_OBo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHk7lta_OBo)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 15, 2019, 11:37:17 am
Reading this article on Xmas recycling, glitters and foils etc, I noticed the piece of advice below, which clears up a point, I have never been sure of.

Glass bottles and jars
Do: Swill glass bottles and jars and put them in the recycling.
Don't: Take their lids off, the lids help them to be easily sorted and recycled separately.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/rules-recycling-christmas-cards-wrapping-17414483 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/rules-recycling-christmas-cards-wrapping-17414483)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area ........... New Garden waste collection cost
Post by: SteveH on December 20, 2019, 10:17:59 am
Bryson Recycling   https://www.brysonrecycling.org/ (https://www.brysonrecycling.org/) (I believe a Northern Ireland based company,) has been awarded the contract to deliver a new garden waste collection service to households in Conwy.

The social enterprise has been awarded a five-year contract, with an option for five more years, with Conwy County Borough Council to provide households with a fortnightly collection of garden waste direct from their homes.

The new subscription garden waste collection service begins from March 30, 2020. The service costs £35 for 12 months – just £1.35 per collection.

The service will be launched in the New Year with local residents being invited up sign up for the new service from January 6 at www.brysonrecycling.org/gardenwaste (http://www.brysonrecycling.org/gardenwaste)

Vincent Thomas, General Manager Bryson Recycling, said: “We are delighted to have won this contract. We already run two Recycling Centres in Conwy on behalf of the council and look forward working with them on this new contract which will help residents recycle and also help the local environment”.

Cllr Greg Robbins, Cabinet Member for Environment and Transportation, said: “We’re looking forward to working with Bryson on this new service. We know that residents value having their garden waste collected and we’re pleased we can continue this at a reasonable cost for those who want it.”     REF Pioneer

Bins    Collection Cost   Delivery Cost   Total Cost
1     £35                 Free               £35
2     £55                       £20              £75
3     £75                     £20              £95
4     £95                  £20                 £115

Title: Re: Recycling across the area................ Xmas bin collection
Post by: SteveH on December 24, 2019, 10:07:30 am
There will be no waste and recycling collection on Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's day.

Collections on Monday, December 30, and Tuesday, December 31 will remain the same.

If your normal collection day is Wednesday, your New Year collection day will be Thursday, January 2.

If your normal collection day is Thursday, your Christmas collection date will be Friday, December 27, and your New Year collection day will be Friday, January 3.

If your normal collection day is Friday, your Christmas collection date will be Saturday, December 28, and your New Year collection day will be Saturday, January 4.

There will be no garden waste, electricals or textiles collections between Saturday, December 20, and Friday, January 3, and collection days will return to normal the week beginning January 6, 2020.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2019, 11:12:10 am
While recycling rates have improved since controversial bin changes were brought in, the number of black bags being dumped illegally has almost quadrupled.

In 2015-16, before a trial of monthly bin collections was brought in, 129 black bin bags were fly-tipped, the following year this had increased to 282.
And by the end of March 2019, when the pilot was rolled out across the whole county, the figure stood at 416.

The county has been judged one of the cleanest places to live in Wales, and recorded its highest street cleanliness rating in 10 years, last year.

But one resident said, since the changes, people had been dumping bags in public litter bins and on industrial estates. Others said charges at tips had let to an increase in fly-tipping.
Another resident said she had her locks broken on her bins twice by fly-tippers and had to pay a private contractor to take the waste away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50816078 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50816078)

Soon there will be the garden waste collection charges, https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-garden-waste-collections-17478979 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-garden-waste-collections-17478979)  which I assume will only increase the problem ?  another thought, as we are paying for the bins, are we responsible for replacement costs, if they go missing ! ! (I can see the furtive fella in the pub, hey mate wanna buy a cheap bin )
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on December 28, 2019, 11:48:05 am
The obscenity of all this is that it's because Conwy suffers from a funding shortfall. Time for the WA to look at the figures.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on December 28, 2019, 02:45:41 pm
I am no accountant, and certain not an employee of CCBC, but my calculations suggest that this could well lead to them asking for even more money when they work out our Council Tax for 2021.

The charge for a garden waste bin is going to be £35 per annum.

For that you get a new 240 litre bin which costs £39.60 (source of prices www.wheeliebins.co.uk (http://www.wheeliebins.co.uk)) so CCBC are £4.60 per applicant out of pocket straight away.

They also offer extra bins at £20 each, so that's another £19.60 cost to the Council for each extra bin ordered.

Then there is the printing of the leaflets we've already had, and the cost of processing applications.

Ongoing, there will be costs involved to employ the people to empty them (contracted out - Bryson Recycling).

At the end of the first year I wonder just how much they will have saved - I reckon it will be quite a large amount but preceded by a minus sign.

As I said, I am no accountant but I can do simple sums!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2019, 03:12:26 pm
Some time ago (2014 ?) the council gave details of monies received from recycling, I was very impressed, so much for each type, paper, plastic etc, and a very large saving in land fill costs, but it has not been brought up since, so I trust this has been taken into account when accepting the tender from Bryson Recycling.       _))*      :'(
 
                                                                         

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on January 09, 2020, 10:17:56 am
We can't do right for doing wrong.............   &shake&

Consumer pressure to end plastic packaging in shops could actually be harming the environment, a report says.

Firms are swapping to other packaging materials which are potentially even worse for the environment, the cross-party Parliamentary group warns.
Glass bottles, for instance, are much heavier than plastic so are far more polluting to transport.

Paper bags tend to have higher carbon emissions than plastic bags – and are more difficult to re-use.
The change in packaging materials has been prompted by concern from shoppers about the impact of plastic waste in the oceans.

But the report’s authors say the consequences of using new materials has not been properly assessed.
Cont.   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51040155 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51040155)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2020, 10:37:18 am
Perhaps we are supposed to just put everything in our pockets...
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on January 09, 2020, 10:54:37 am
I think that's called shop lifting................   ;)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2020, 11:48:26 am
 _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: New dog control crackdowns
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2020, 10:15:46 am
Full list of places to be hit with new dog control crackdowns - including bans
The raft of dog control measures are currently being discussed by council chiefs,
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dog-control-orders-conwy-beaches-17704331 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dog-control-orders-conwy-beaches-17704331)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 12, 2020, 12:02:15 pm
I think it will have been obvious, that I am keen on recycling, well this morning I feel very guilty, ( considering it is the Great British Spring Clean starting on the 20th March ),  putting out the recycling bins last night, I thought I would take a bungee, and secure the trolley to our gate, while doing this the wind took the top box off the trolley, with luck I caught it before it opened, unfortunately the wind suctioned the plastics from the second box, I dropped the paper box to deal with the plastics, to late it emptied, I turned to find the paper box lid had opened, and that had emptied too, this morning I watched a similar situation, when the men tried to take a neighbours trolley, both emptied into the street, so my apologies to the local area, a bit of a farce, but it does show there is to much packaging anyway.   :-[   :-[ 

https://www.keepbritaintidy.org/get-involved/support-our-campaigns/great-british-spring-clean?gclid=Cj0KCQjwu6fzBRC6ARIsAJUwa2QAGDnmYcP4AN14AYKDljkUV0PqxLnwtvQpNboGb6AG4o6k-u8_OC0aAhaHEALw_wcB (https://www.keepbritaintidy.org/get-involved/support-our-campaigns/great-british-spring-clean?gclid=Cj0KCQjwu6fzBRC6ARIsAJUwa2QAGDnmYcP4AN14AYKDljkUV0PqxLnwtvQpNboGb6AG4o6k-u8_OC0aAhaHEALw_wcB)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Ian on March 12, 2020, 12:16:38 pm
This wind's a bit of a nightmare, isn't it?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 12, 2020, 02:30:14 pm
The same thing has happened to me in the past so when it's windy I tend to put it out in the morning and set my alarm clock accordingly

Last week I did the same and although the alarm clock went off I got up and forgot all about the binmen    So Friday morning was spend taking everything down to the tip       :-[
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 19, 2020, 10:51:20 am
Welsh Water warns of blockages from toilet paper alternatives during Coronavirus outbreak

TOILET paper alternatives could become "hugely damaging"if not handled properly according to new warnings.

The water provider has urged its customers not to flush wet wipes or kitchen roll down their toilets if they are affected by a toilet paper shortage during the Covid-19 outbreak.
The company made the warning amid reports of shortages of toilet paper in shops, which may lead to higher sales of non-flushable alternatives, like wet wipes or kitchen roll.

“Throwing these items away in the bin instead of flushing them will reduce the number of blockages and the risk of flooding to homes, businesses and the environment during what is likely to be a difficult time for many people.

“It’s too early to say what impact the outbreak has had on our sewers but, as always, we’d urge everyone to only flush the '3Ps '– pee, poo and paper – to help avoid problems.”

Wet wipes are the major cause of sewer blockages in the UK – with wipes found in an estimated 93 percent of blockages - about 28,000 - every year.

Wipes, along with other items like nappies and sanitary products, don’t break down in pipes like toilet paper and can combine with fats, oils and grease to create blockages which are difficult to clear and can cause raw sewage to build up and flood homes, businesses and the environment.

The blockages cost the company £7 million to tackle, and amount to around 2,000 incidents every month.   ref Pioneer

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 24, 2020, 02:43:28 pm
I ordered a brown garden waste bin from Bryson Recycling sometime in February and it was promised to be delivered to me by the end of February and I paid the £35.00 by card over the phone
Needless to say it hasn't arrived.     I have now got 7 bags full of garden waste waiting for collection but realised that one bin was not enough for my needs so I decided to buy a second one at £20.00 extra

Yesterday I phoned the company and requested a second bin and pointed out that I had still not received the first bin.    I asked them if the two bins could be delivered together and the person said no so I agreed to buy the second one and understood that the two bins would come separately.     

Anyway he said that will be £20.00 for the bin and another £20.00 for the delivery!     So I said that I'm not paying for delivery as it doesn't state that in the leaflet so can I pick the bin up in my car.       The person replied no and gave the excuse that it was because there was a microchip in the bin but didn't clarify how that would stop me from picking up the bin. So I decided not to go ahead with buying the second bin

Anyway today I thought about it and was prepared to eat humble pie but despite phoning up numerous times I couldn't get through so in the end I've e-mailed the company and now await their reply
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 24, 2020, 02:59:25 pm
That's outrageous.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on March 24, 2020, 03:33:20 pm
Still waiting for our brown bin too.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 24, 2020, 03:41:35 pm
Bryson Recycling   https://www.brysonrecycling.org/ (https://www.brysonrecycling.org/) (I believe a Northern Ireland based company,) has been awarded the contract to deliver a new garden waste collection service to households in Conwy.

The social enterprise has been awarded a five-year contract, with an option for five more years, with Conwy County Borough Council to provide households with a fortnightly collection of garden waste direct from their homes.

The new subscription garden waste collection service begins from March 30, 2020. The service costs £35 for 12 months – just £1.35 per collection.

The service will be launched in the New Year with local residents being invited up sign up for the new service from January 6 at www.brysonrecycling.org/gardenwaste (http://www.brysonrecycling.org/gardenwaste)

Vincent Thomas, General Manager Bryson Recycling, said: “We are delighted to have won this contract. We already run two Recycling Centres in Conwy on behalf of the council and look forward working with them on this new contract which will help residents recycle and also help the local environment”.

Cllr Greg Robbins, Cabinet Member for Environment and Transportation, said: “We’re looking forward to working with Bryson on this new service. We know that residents value having their garden waste collected and we’re pleased we can continue this at a reasonable cost for those who want it.”     REF Pioneer

Bins    Collection Cost   Delivery Cost   Total Cost
1     £35                 Free               £35
2     £55                       £20              £75
3     £75                     £20              £95
4     £95                  £20                 £115

Hugo, It does seem unfair especially as you have not received the first bin, also as I understand it, you will be paying £20 for the second bin, delivery charge , and an additional £20 PA for removal.

At the moment we are trying the compost method, purely because we found three large bins for £10 by a private seller moving house, we shall have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 24, 2020, 04:20:01 pm
Steve,   I've tried the composting method and have three compost bins full with no room for any more grass cuttings

Years ago the grass cuttings went in the Black bin and as there wasn't a lot of room in the bin I used to stand inside it and squash more into it.     It worked quite well until I got a note from the binman saying that the bin was too heavy for their machine       :-[

I'll see what Bryson has to say in the e-mail first and if I have to pay the £40.00 then so be it
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 24, 2020, 04:41:08 pm
Hugo, our brown bin arrived yesterday so I cut our lawn today.

It is already nearly full so you were very wise in ordering two bins.

I phoned up CCBC and found out that our first collection will be on Good Friday, 10 April.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on March 24, 2020, 09:12:07 pm
I've no need for a bin, no grass at our new house, but seeing the fiasco today it's going to be interesting they stopped outside ours one guy had an I pad one guy on the wagon throwing the bins off another putting the wheels on, went house next door on over the road one couple doors down then went off 10 minutes later another battered van came along stopped another few off the neighbour on the other side came out looking for his they hadn't delivered his, then I seen the two vans all over Llanrhos looking lost 😂😂 good luck with getting your grass bins emptied when it starts, talk about giving the Irish a bad name.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2020, 03:45:06 pm
A guide to bin day collections in N Wales

I'm still waiting for my brown bin and a reply to my e-mail      &shake&



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/complete-guide-bin-collections-recycling-17976356 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/complete-guide-bin-collections-recycling-17976356)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 25, 2020, 04:27:53 pm
Hugo, I understand garden waste collections have been suspended.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on March 25, 2020, 04:41:22 pm
They delivered the garden waste bins on my estate today, but several of us didn't get ours & there were dozens more left inside the vehicle, so what on earth is going on? &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2020, 07:46:35 pm
Hugo, our brown bin arrived yesterday so I cut our lawn today.

It is already nearly full so you were very wise in ordering two bins.

I phoned up CCBC and found out that our first collection will be on Good Friday, 10 April.

Should be all compressed down into next to nothing by then Bri!! You would be better off with a composting bin!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 25, 2020, 08:08:35 pm
Either that, Dave, or reuse the collection of green bags I have accumulated over the years.

There was nothing wrong with them.

Buying a new brown bin simply identifies us from those residents who haven’t paid the extra.


Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on March 26, 2020, 03:09:39 pm
Brysons were out delivering brown bins again today, delivered two to my neighbours but again nothing for us. Mr M went after them to ask what was going on, only to be told we would have to wait another week for ours as they are being given out by when you ordered them. How stupid are some people, this really doesn't bode well for things to come  :roll:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 26, 2020, 03:16:03 pm
OMG  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 26, 2020, 03:28:12 pm
I'm still awaiting my bin too and a reply to my e-mail which the company promised within 24 hours.

They don't answer the phone
They don't reply to e-mails
They haven't delivered my bin yet
They have suspended garden waste collections and I'm on my 9th green bag already      &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 26, 2020, 03:50:12 pm
I'm still awaiting my bin too and a reply to my e-mail which the company promised within 24 hours.
They don't answer the phone
They don't reply to e-mails
They haven't delivered my bin yet
They have suspended garden waste collections and I'm on my 9th green bag already      &shake&

Could I make a suggestion, I have had a word with the neighbors, who after much deliberation, have reluctantly agreed to give you, on a permanent basis, a local solution.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 27, 2020, 04:09:15 pm
I just received this email notification.

My first collection will now be four weeks today and my new brown bin is already full.

“We know these are unprecedented and challenging times for everyone, with many disruptions to everyday life. 
 
Unfortunately there is going to be a two week delay in the start of our new Garden Waste Collection Service, as we are unable to get key equipment that we require to deliver this service as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 
This will mean that you will miss one collection from your annual subscription, so we will add this on at the end of the year, to ensure you have all the collections you have paid for.
 
We apologise for any inconvenience caused, and thank you for your understanding and patience.”
 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on March 27, 2020, 06:15:16 pm
Maybe Bryson haven't got the wagon Brian  $donald$ The two pickups I've seen delivering the bins look rather old.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2020, 11:27:58 am
Still no bin or a reply to my e-mail but I did receive this e-mail today saying


"We know these are unprecedented and challenging times for everyone, with many disruptions to everyday life.
 
Unfortunately there is going to be a two week delay in the start of our new Garden Waste Collection Service, as we are unable to get key equipment that we require to deliver this service as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 
This will mean that you will miss one collection from your annual subscription, so we will add this on at the end of the year, to ensure you have all the collections you have paid for.
 
We apologise for any inconvenience caused, and thank you for your understanding and patience."
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on March 28, 2020, 01:41:02 pm
Two brown bins delivered to a next-door-but-one neighbour this morning.  We had ours over a week ago, as well as someone across the road.

Logic would have said you deliver all in the same road at the same time!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on March 28, 2020, 01:51:40 pm
Bryson have now been to our cul-de-sac 4 times & still we have no brown bin, what a waste of petrol, what happened to improving Carbon Footprint etc. A lack of joined up thinking me thinks  &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on March 28, 2020, 03:22:56 pm
This lot are giving the Irish a bad name 😂 I was quite funny watching the two vans driving round and round Llanrhos the other day 😂😂🤔
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2020, 03:35:39 pm
Don't forget to send them up here Norman if you see them next time
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on March 30, 2020, 02:46:59 pm
I had a surprise when I saw the Bryson lorry in the street and it dropped off a brown bin for me after they had scanned it first.     So I put 4 of the old green bags in the brown bin and filled the thing up
There are another 4 bags left awaiting a second bin

I had a bigger surprise when I later received a phone call about having a second bin delivered.   Anyway I've ordered and paid for a second bin at a cost of £20.00 for the bin and £20.00 for delivery of the bin.      I've no choice really as on most collection days I would need two bins
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on March 30, 2020, 03:06:41 pm
Luckily we have no grass in our new house, the neighbour has been waiting ages, again this morning the wagon drives in past his house drops a bin off down the road he comes out as they drive away 😂😳 bless him, bay be lucky next time.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 30, 2020, 03:29:49 pm
Now I am beginning to understand why garden waste collections have been delayed by two weeks.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on March 30, 2020, 05:58:49 pm
Might be easier to adopt a goat?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 30, 2020, 06:20:20 pm
Might be easier to adopt a goat?

Plenty around here......Come and help yourself.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on March 31, 2020, 11:39:33 am
The Saga of the undelivered brown bin continues. The Bryson lorry has just creaked & clanked into my cul-de-sac yet again & three men got out, one lit a cigarette, one played on his hand held device & a young man got one bin off, but alas no bin for me. In the words of Scarlett O'Hara " Tomorrow is another Day". I must get out more, but still waiting for the delivery of our Virustatic Shield masks ordered a week ago. I thought they would have got here sooner as they are only coming from Menai Bridge  :'(
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on April 06, 2020, 01:32:52 pm
The Saga of the Bryson brown bin delivery continues, visit 7 to my knowledge occured today. A white van this time with 2 men in full protective gear arrived & I was full of hope this time it would be our turn, but alas it wasn't to be  :'( The garden waste is piling up, thank goodness we kept 4 green bags back, but only 1 left empty now.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 09, 2020, 10:37:53 am
I had an e-mail from Bryson today stating that our collection dates have been changed from a Thursday to a Monday and that the first collection will be on the 13th April 2020.
That's Easter Monday so I wonder if they will come then or not.      I'm still waiting for my second brown bin and I've got 7 bags of garden waste waiting to go in it
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 09, 2020, 11:32:11 am
The guy next door keeps coming out every day to see if theve delivered his bin, he keeps e mailing them,this morning he gets a letter saying your bin will now be emptied on the 20 th 🤔 Would help if I had a bin, his wife said it was ordered paid for beginning January, just a thought will Bryson be working if the depot in mochdre is closed, I think they are taking the Mick  $donald$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on April 09, 2020, 11:34:07 am
We received the e-mail too Hugo & one of our collections in December is on Christmas Eve, that's if there is anything to put in it. Hopefully the Saga on the brown bin is over. Yesterday yet another Bryson truck arrived with two men suitable dressed in protective gear. On seeing them put a bin at the bottom of our neighbours part of the drive Mr M shot out of the door. Apparently they said it was for next door, Mr M told them she had had her's already & he was claiming it. One of them told him it could be a second bin for our neighbour, but he could suite himself & they drove off. Mr M did ask next door & she hasn't ordered a second bin, so it's ours at long last  {}{}  $bounce$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 09, 2020, 12:01:55 pm
Good luck with your bin Meleri and I hope you can get all those bags emptied into it.     I filled my bin and it's heavy, very heavy so I wouldn't be surprised to hear from Bryson about the weight.      It's also sweating a lot and I bet in time it'll also be very smelly.
Since my last post, I've also got another green bag full, that's 8 in total and no sign of the second bin
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on April 09, 2020, 12:13:50 pm
A friend told me he received a text this morning at 8.30am telling him they were going to empty the bins early this morning, he panicked a bit, ran and got his bin out, told everyone in the street, they were coming, he returned home, to find a second text advising him that it would not start until later in the month.     :(          :-[
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Quiggs on April 09, 2020, 02:26:05 pm
Isn’t privatisation wonderful, when will they ever learn,    &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 09, 2020, 04:29:57 pm
The brown bin was ordered on Sunday and has just been dropped off....... and then filled.....what a fantastic service!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 09, 2020, 05:07:20 pm
They must have given you mine by mistake.......  can I have it back please          :o
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2020, 02:18:44 pm
Well it's 2.13 pm and no sign of the Bryson's boys.     All the bins are out in the street as per Bryson collection calendar but where's Bryson?

Will the garden waste be collected before my second bin is delivered?    watch this  $angry2$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 13, 2020, 02:45:53 pm
Yes, I am still waiting for the fantastic service to continue also.......I got up at 06:45 today to put the brown bin so that it was in position by 07:00 as requested....still time?!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 13, 2020, 05:54:09 pm
Hugo they can't get back from Ireland, I'm glad I didn't get a bin now I've filled everyone else's in the road 😂😂
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2020, 06:49:56 pm
My bin has still not been collected and will stay there until it is and if the contents settle down then more waste will go in it. are they really rubbish?
Apparently there are people on the estate who have never heard of Bryson let alone the brown bins so I don't know what's going to happen to them in the future
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 13, 2020, 07:04:18 pm
Hugo I was talking to the lads on the last pick up they were not being kept on and Bryson reckon they can do it with less men & wagons, one lad said he was in the army in Belfast ( where brysons are from ) and had never seen any wagons or even heard of them.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2020, 07:11:42 pm
Didn't Bryson work for the CCBC last year to be sure, to be sure?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 13, 2020, 09:01:52 pm
Had a few e-mails about initial delay and the calendar, also e-mails saying the calendar was downloadable which it was, but not on phone or tablet due to "technical difficulties" which we were then told were resolved.  Info has been good so we are expecting our first collection tomorrow as per the calendar.   We're in Junction off Narrow Lane ... our brown and green bins are out there waiting!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2020, 10:45:45 pm
Fingers crossed then DVT  please let us know how you get on with the collection.       
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on April 14, 2020, 09:56:17 am
Didn't Bryson work for the CCBC last year to be sure, to be sure?

I think Bryson's are the company that run the Mochdre recycling centre ?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 14, 2020, 08:22:36 pm
Well, it's Tuesday 14th and the time now is 8.15pm ... this photo was taken late afternoon but it looks exactly the same now apart from the failing light.  The green bin was emptied mid-morning, and has been returned to it's spot between house and garage.  One bin (11) is ours, one is from next door (9) and two belong to number 7, there is only one other brown bin out in the road, there are 16 houses - so either no-one else has signed-up or their bins have not been delivered - not spoken to anyone as we haven't left our property for 3 weeks!

Mrs DVT was going to bring our bin in, but I said to leave it there as it is not in anyone's way and no-one knows when it will get emptied - it is about 3/4 full so we're OK for another mow of the small front lawn, and perhaps a few more dead camelia flowers!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: mondie on April 14, 2020, 10:30:16 pm
Nice Type R DVT!  $hands$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2020, 09:56:33 am
Apparently a neighbour of mine had been able to contact Bryson and had been told than an error had been made on the calendar and our collection date should have shown as  16th April and not the 13th April
The neighbour  put the message on facebook yesterday after speaking to Bryson but as I don't do facebook another neighbour had seen it and let me know
So let's see what happens tomorrow
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 15, 2020, 10:48:20 am
On that basis perhaps ours will be collected on 17th, and not 14th. !!!

After all the earlier e-mails I received it would be nice to get another one to give us the correct information.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2020, 01:02:16 pm
Don't hold your breath DVT  they defy any sort of logic.       Our bin day was always Thursday but then Bryson's calendar said Monday and now they have said Thursday so the rest of my household waste will go out tonight to keep the brown bin company
A near neighbour ordered her brown bin in January and yes you've guessed it, it still hasn't arrived
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 15, 2020, 01:12:29 pm
C,mon Hugo get on FB your brother will show you 😂👍👏
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2020, 02:18:00 pm
No way Jose,   I'll leave it to the younger ones.       


The Bryson lorry came into my street loaded with brown bins         $bounce$              {}{}


and then drove straight past my house  and then returned and drove past it again         *punch*   
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 15, 2020, 03:10:11 pm
My neighbour keeps getting excited aswell. The wagon always come around Llanrhos loaded with bins but nobody knows where they go 😂😂
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on April 15, 2020, 03:21:58 pm
From what you chaps have said, I don’t hold out much hope that our brown bin will be emptied on Friday.
We are off Henryd Road in Conwy.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2020, 03:54:01 pm
Surely, as and when Bryson received orders they would have organised deliveries in postcode order together with one, two or three bins?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 15, 2020, 05:10:21 pm
Bri ... you have just used something that is almost extinct these days ... common sense !!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2020, 05:23:29 pm
I agree.

Surely, this would have been covered by CCBC in their procurement process?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 15, 2020, 06:47:05 pm
Considering how often we read on here about the incompetence of CCBC do you really think that? !!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2020, 12:40:43 pm
CCBC called here early this morning and emptied the green stacker bins      $good$


Bryson.......  well I'm still waiting          &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2020, 03:02:26 pm
Thursday    3,05 pm    I'm still waiting

O Bryson, Bryson wherefore art thou Bryson              &shake&
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 16, 2020, 03:50:53 pm
I was talking to someone earlier this afternoon, from over 2 metres away, and he told me that very few people in this area (east side of Llandudno Junction) have had their bins delivered, let alone emptied.  As we were speaking I saw a truck loaded with brown bins pass the top of our road but didn't see it come back (it was down a cul-de-sac) so who knows what is happening?!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2020, 04:36:17 pm
Still no collection and Bryson doesn't answer my phone calls and doesn't reply to my e-mails either so I've sent an e-mail to CCBC and we'll see what happens
A friend has told me that there has been a big increase in fly tipping,  I wonder why?

It's a good job that Brysons are not in charge of the Guiness  Brewery  to be sure
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 16, 2020, 06:48:01 pm
Get in touch with gregg Robbins he's the brains on the cabinet in charge of this 😂😂
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 16, 2020, 07:15:01 pm
Well.....the  Bryson website told me that Mon 13/04/20 was my day of reckoning......but by yesterday when the green bins had been emptied I dragged the brown one back to their hiding place thinking 27/04/20 is not that far away! At 07:30 this morning the truck was emptying my neighbour's brown bins(which had been left out) but I was not quick enough.

Anyway.....the boss made a phone call and was told that Wednesday was our day...so why were they here on Thursday was her enquiry?! She also pointed out about payment for a service not delivered, website not giving correct info etc.....leave your brown bin out and a pickup for missed bins will be done by Saturday is were we are now.

I will give an update when deed is done!

PS the pickup is still Monday for our postcode.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2020, 08:23:28 pm
Get in touch with gregg Robbins he's the brains on the cabinet in charge of this 😂😂

That's not a nice compliment to give anyone Norman, who would want to be credited with being in charge of the Fred Karno's Army?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 16, 2020, 09:49:05 pm
People on FB have said they emptied the brown bins in old colwyn today And yes And parts of colwyn heights 🤔 Um didn't you put yours out Hugo 😢
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2020, 11:33:01 pm
It's all fake news Norman, my bin has been there since Monday and is staying put.       You'd be better off looking for the source of the pong on West Shore than wasting your time on fakebook
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 16, 2020, 11:39:08 pm
Don't some councils fine you for leaving bins out on wrong day.  Could prove interesting!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 17, 2020, 11:37:29 am
Today’s announcements from Bryson Recycling Wales:

“We are running behind with collections due to a breakdown earlier in the week - please leave your bin out and it will be emptied by Saturday morning at the latest. Thank you for your patience.”

AND

“Bin deliveries are still ongoing, with 400-500 bins being delivered on a daily basis. If you have not received your bin it will be with you shortly, sorry for the delay.”
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2020, 12:16:10 pm
Thanks Bri for the update .... now it's the waiting game .... watch this space



I don't believe it!     Brysons outside my house and just emptied my bin          $bounce$                $bounce$
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 17, 2020, 01:58:28 pm
 $bounce$

 <:<:<:< <:<:<:<

 {}{}

 $lol$

Are you still waiting for a second bin though?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2020, 02:06:38 pm
Yes, I'm still waiting for the second bin but it will arrive too late.      My first bin is now full again and I've six full bags of garden waste waiting to fill the second bin up and then the grass will need to be cut before the two bins are collected.        &shake&

Perhaps I should have ordered a third bin but I'm not going down that line again
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on April 17, 2020, 04:18:56 pm
Take your pick Hugo! Bryson say they are delivering between 400-500 brown bins per day  :roll:
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2020, 06:51:50 pm
I don't know where they are delivering them to but it's certainly not here       &shake&



I've just looked on the Bryson website and there is a box for feedback!         I don't think that I would dare put it into print       >?>??
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 19, 2020, 01:31:31 pm
Quoted from a few days ago ...
Today’s announcements from Bryson Recycling Wales:
“We are running behind with collections due to a breakdown earlier in the week - please leave your bin out and it will be emptied by Saturday morning at the latest. Thank you for your patience.”


It's now Sunday ... and there are still 4 brown bins on the pavement outside my house (not all mine!) - little bit of space left for a bit more weeding., but the lawn will have to wait.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2020, 02:09:50 pm
I'm still waiting for my second bin DVT  but I don't know when they are going to deliver it,  I hope it is delivered in time for my next collection.

But I don't know when that will be because "their calendar isn't working"  neither is their phones or e-mails.     I've been in a right "Paddy" because of them
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 19, 2020, 04:06:45 pm
Well......Saturday has passed and the full brown bin is still waiting!! Another phone call or e-mail (cc to my local councillor in case the council moan about a bin out) required it appears. The fantastic service is no more!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2020, 04:36:08 pm
Good luck with your e-mails and phone calls, mine seem to have been diverted to Never never Land
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Quiggs on April 19, 2020, 07:48:11 pm
The Bowling Club have two brown bins that have been filled with fine grass cuttings that have been awaiting collection for so long that the grass has settled down and been topped up a few times. I hope that when they do collect that the vehicle has a lift on it, otherwise the operators could end up with a Hernia ))*
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2020, 09:46:16 pm
That happened to me Quiggs and I kept topping it up, I even stood in the bin once to compress it
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 20, 2020, 11:28:39 am
Paddy has just driven past my house with a pickup laden with brown bins but didn't stop so I waited for the vehicle to return but it hasn't  $angry2$
When I walked to the shops earlier I noticed that the brown bibs in that street hadn't been emptied despite promises to do so
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 20, 2020, 04:04:53 pm
I don't believe it!    I was in the garden when Paddy just drove past with a load of brown bins and didn't stop so I stood in the middle of my road and stopped the pickup on its return
Where's my bin I asked and they didn't know.    Apparently they just have a list and deliver to the address on it so it's not their fault but it is someone's

There's a backlog, so there's a problem but there's no solution.     In the old days when I worked and you had a backlog, you would use a post code and concentrate on one area, you get far more done and in a more cost effective manner.
I'll be in a right Paddy if they come past again this week
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Robbie G on April 20, 2020, 05:49:28 pm
I am beginning to think you have the wrong Bryson ,perhaps you need Bill Bryson the author ,he is pretty good at writing a humorous tale
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: snowcap on April 20, 2020, 10:50:53 pm
cant believe it Hugo your sounding and looking more like Victor Meldrew every day
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 21, 2020, 07:47:59 am
cant believe it Hugo your sounding and looking more like Victor Meldrew every day

I don't believe it!        
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 21, 2020, 11:00:31 am
Just heard a noise outside and there were some guys emptying the brown bins !!!

According to the calendar (which I had printed, laminated and stuck to the fridge door) they should have been here last Tuesday which begs the question - is the calendar going to be one week out from now on?  Should we put the brown bin out next Tuesday and will it be there for a week?

One of my neighbours didn't get his emptied - because he's still waiting for it to be delivered !!!

The black bin was emptied before we got up, the green bin is standing on the pavement outside.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2020, 11:44:51 am
and what about your food bin, DVT? aaa.gif
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 21, 2020, 01:07:15 pm
That's still out on the pavement!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 21, 2020, 01:33:35 pm
Take your pick Hugo! Bryson say they are delivering between 400-500 brown bins per day  :roll:


To quote Trump "that's fake news"     from my observations each pickup vehicle won't deliver more that 30 bins a day because their system of distribution is shambolic and that's a compliment.
Unless they have about 15  pickup trucks on the go 400 to 500 bins won't be delivered daily, it's impossible           >?>??
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 21, 2020, 05:50:09 pm
Ours is still full after a promise yesterday to empty today!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Quiggs on April 23, 2020, 03:15:37 pm
Hurray, the two brown bins at the Llandudno bowling club have been emptied, they had been left out since Monday but when checked this morning were empty. So we’ll start to fill them again. 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 23, 2020, 03:37:56 pm
I was walking to the nearby shop today when I met a local Councillor who I know quite well.     We greeted each other and before I started saying anything the Councillor said "don't mention the brown bins"    She said that she's been inundated with e-mails and phone calls from people complaining that either the brown bin had not been emptied  or it had not been delivered in the first place.
She said that it is a nightmare and can't understand why Bryson was awarded the contract in the first place

I'm still awaiting a second brown bin
a return phone call from Bryson
a reply e-mail from Bryson
a new and correct calendar from Bryson
a reply to my e-mail from CCBC

 >?>??
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 23, 2020, 03:45:30 pm
Hugo, I have noticed that Bryson have a Facebook page upon which they reply to concerns from customers.

I am aware you are not a fan of Facebook but at least it is an option worthy of your further consideration.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 23, 2020, 03:59:48 pm
Brian I have told Hugo to get on FB he won't have it 😂😂
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on April 23, 2020, 04:50:10 pm
Finally had our Brown bin emptied, but they wouldn't take the extra in the green bags. On saying that a neighbour who was still waiting for his second bin to be delivered, showed them evidence that he had paid for one months ago & they did empty his green bags as well as the first bin. It's worth a try Hugo on their next pick up if your second bin hasn't arrived. Have you tried phoning the telephone number for ordering a bin, I bet they will answer that one.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on April 23, 2020, 05:10:55 pm
Ours in this part of Conwy was collected today - should have been last Friday.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 23, 2020, 06:32:20 pm
Brian I have told Hugo to get on FB he won't have it 😂😂


No way Jose but I did see the box for Bryson where I could have posted a feedback but I thought better of it as I'd rather be locked down in my house and not locked up in some cell somewhere

I've tried everything Meleri and just given up in the end I'm afraid that Paddypower  has beaten me.       I wonder if Bryson has  recruited staff from the DVLA  to work for the firm
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 24, 2020, 10:15:19 am
Bryson are in CyD this morning but residents are complaining their excess garden waste put out in green bags is being ignored.

This is their first visit after their initial Good Friday visit was postponed for two weeks.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 24, 2020, 10:29:45 am
Same up here in Llanrhos yesterday Brian empty the bin but won't empty the bag, one guy got onto them he won't let it go, because of this people have filled their bins again already.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 24, 2020, 11:06:07 am
It is unreasonable, Norman.

Collections were initially suspended from 20 January until Friday, 27 March.

Then our first collection was scheduled for 10 April but delayed by 14 days.

That is actually 2 x 14 day delays for us.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2020, 12:35:37 pm
Same up here in Llanrhos yesterday Brian empty the bin but won't empty the bag, one guy got onto them he won't let it go, because of this people have filled their bins again already.


Didn't realise that you had relocated Norman and thought that you were still living by Smiler          Our bin collections were always on a Thursday but no idea when they are coming up here but the bin will go down there on Wednesday night and will stay there until it's emptied whenever that will be but it's not worth putting the green bags out as they won't empty them
Still awaiting a second bin and I'm not too happy seeing them go past daily with loads of new bins     
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 24, 2020, 01:16:18 pm
Hugo, I have just received an email from Bryson which explains who to contact over issues.

Hopefully, you have had one as well.

Our next door neighbour had her two green bags emptied today, as advertised, but was first asked whether or not she cut her lawn herself suggesting that if you pay to have your lawn cut then that individual should also take away the grass.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Cambrian on April 24, 2020, 01:20:04 pm
I have had an email from Brysons wringing their hands.  They appear to be trying to blame Convid19 but I know of one man at least who paid for his bin on 9th January and up to a fortnight ago had not had it.  That's long before the lockdown. 
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on April 24, 2020, 01:41:13 pm
Hugo in the e-mail we have all received it states if any ones bin collection has been missed call 01492592705 & arrangements will be made to collect. Seeing as Bryson hasn't given you your second bin the garden waste that would have been in it in theory, hasn't been collected. So ring them up to collect it even though it is in your 1st bin, as you have paid for this service. Hopefully you will get your second bin in the next 10 days as promised, but don't hold your breath. We are all going to be continually trying to catch up, our bin is almost full already, so it will be back to using & storing green bags again.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 24, 2020, 02:16:53 pm
Meleri, I haven’t a clue about gardening and I am certainly not Percy Thrower but my bin was also full after cutting our front and back lawns twice since lockdown.

However, after I opened my bin ‘to air’, it didn’t take long before it became only half full.

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 24, 2020, 03:35:49 pm
Our brown bin was emptied on Tuesday so only a week later than they said.  Then yesterday our mower broke down!  Pulled it apart to find drive belt frayed, so now waiting for a new one from Southampton.  Will be next week before bin gets filled again!

Did receive the e-mail from Bryson - COVID-19 will get blamed for everything, regardless!  Not sure how it can be blamed for Bryson inefficiency.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2020, 04:18:12 pm
I've also had an e-mail from Bryson and I've had a look at the Calendar for my next brown bin collection and I don't believe it
My first brown bin was due to be emptied on the 16th April but was emptied a day or so later so if it's a fortnightly bin collection then it's due to be emptied again on the 30th April 2020 but no it's scheduled for emptying on the Thursday the 21st May.
I've said all along that Bryson's are a rubbish, rubbish collector but that confirms it.      >?>??
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2020, 07:36:06 pm
Apparently it is the Calendar that is wrong but the collection will be fortnightly and the next one will be on 30th April.

I wonder what odds I'll get with Paddy Power that it will be emptied on the 30th?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: spotty dog on April 24, 2020, 07:46:36 pm
service.
We know our service hasn’t got off to the best start and we want to apologise to you for this. We, like many other businesses, have been severely impacted by Covid19 and we are working hard to get the service back on track and we wanted to make you aware of how we are doing this:
Bin Deliveries
If you haven’t received your bin we are prioritising these deliveries. All new bin requests will be delivered within 10 working days.
Missed Collections
if your bin collection has been missed please contact us on gardenwaste@brysonrecycling.org or 01492 555 898 and we will arrange for it to be collected. If you have already reported this to us you do not need to contact us again - just leave your bin out and we will arrange to get it emptied.
Collection Day
You can check your collection date online at https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Recycling-and-Waste/Check-my-collection-day.aspx. (https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Recycling-and-Waste/Check-my-collection-day.aspx.) Your garden waste will be collected on the same day as the pink and purple sacks. Once our own postcode look up is up and running we will email you a link so that you can look up and print off your annual collection calendar.
Communications – We know there have been issues with householders not getting responses to phone calls, emails and social media and we have put extra resources into all these areas to ensure you can get the information you require about the service.
Additional Collection
Because there was a two week delay in the start of our service, your subscription will run for two weeks longer. This means you will still get 26 fortnightly collections. You will get an additional collection in April 2021, two weeks after the last collection date on your calendar.
Thank you for your continued support and patience at this time.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 29, 2020, 12:15:59 pm
On Monday I visited the Cursing Well in Llanelian Yn Rhos and sat in peaceful solitude without a thought of a curse.      Yesterday I had a nice surprise when my brother made a visit to the house and we had a chat but we kept at least 3 metres apart but behind him I saw a Bryson pickup truck go past my house stacked up with empty bins  but again I refrained from cursing
This morning a Bryson pickup laden with empty brown bins stopped there to deliver one bin so I stopped my car alongside the pickup and spoke to the driver.    I asked him if he was delivering bins to my street and he replied that he didn't know and very politely explained the system of bin delivery to me. 
In this age of modern technology they work from a tablet.   The tablet tells them where the delivery is to be made and when they have delivered that bin they activate the tablet and it tells them where the next delivery is.    It does not tell them where any other deliveries are during the rest of the day.
So I thanked him and went home but 20 minutes later the pickup drove past my house, again no cursing but the bin collection day is tomorrow so we'll see how we get on then
I must emphasise that the staff work hard and are very pleasant but the chaos rests firmly with the management.    I've worked systems of delivery both with computers and manually and it's not rocket science.      That's what Post Codes are for
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 29, 2020, 12:49:48 pm
I thought one of the aims of recycling was to save on natural resources, such as fuel for transport, not just on what to do with grass cuttings and plastic bottles.

I wonder just how much extra fuel is being wasted by their system of going from one place  to another randomly, rather than covering all the points close together and moving on.

Be interesting to see their route if they have a tracking system fitted to the lorry.

Someone in their office, who is presumably sending out the list, really needs a kick up the backside ... then recycled for someone who knows whet they're doing.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 29, 2020, 01:27:19 pm
Yesterday morning an enterprise hire van pulled outside ours got two bins out one for next door 😖( ordered in jan) and one over the road then drove off, as it went out of the road another van pulled up and dropped one off next door but one  $donald$  I know fuel prices have gone down but no need to waste it 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 29, 2020, 03:17:15 pm
Last Friday, our brown bin was emptied by a self-drive hire wagon from C P Davidson.

https://cpdavidson.co.uk/
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 29, 2020, 05:23:16 pm
Perhaps they have had to sub contract part of the backlog out.      Like everything we have all said about them on here, they have made hard work for themselves.
When bins are emptied the wagons go down one street at a time, they don't flit from one street to another and that's the mistake that they have done with delivering bins.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on April 30, 2020, 02:50:22 pm
Credit where credit's due and Bryson called this morning and emptied my brown bin.

I've filled that up already and have more garden waste bags to go in the second bin which will arrive no later than the 8th May 2020 ( next Friday )   I know that because Bryson told me so in an e-mail  last month.     
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 30, 2020, 07:30:18 pm
3 different wagons stopped by ours this morning, one neighbour told them he'd had his they went only for another wagon to come along 😂😂 they give you a chuckle anyway.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on April 30, 2020, 09:50:49 pm
 Reading all the comments on here I wonder just how long they will stay in business and continue taking our garden waste.

I can't help feeling that they will not be able to cover their costs due to their inefficiency, and this will result on them going bust.

Then council will have to sort it  so more money (our taxes) wasted.  Plus an increase in what we pay next year to cover it.

Does that seem a possible prediction?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on April 30, 2020, 10:48:01 pm
They have been given the contract for 5 years with a view of another 5 years, How can you award a contract like this, you sit round a table papers to show you are prepared 🤔 Oh yes we are talking about the amatuers on CCBC and it will get worse with this shower 😡
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 30, 2020, 11:03:59 pm
For what is involved, I cannot understand why someone more local could not have taken this on and done a far better job, especially someone who knows this area.

After what I keep reading, i don’t know what is so special with this particular company?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on May 01, 2020, 10:26:56 am
For what is involved, I cannot understand why someone more local could not have taken this on and done a far better job, especially someone who knows this area.

After what I keep reading, i don’t know what is so special with this particular company?

I think they were approved by the same committee, who passed the Mochdre 35 year commerce park lease, and recommended by Kingdom security.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 01, 2020, 02:59:11 pm
When I was working a colleague often  used to recite the 5  P's if anything went wrong:-

Poor Preparation Produces Poor Performance.             but if things went badly wrong then he would introduce a 6th P  = p**s 

My walking mate Tellytubby is now working on the front line delivering medical supplies and the Chemist just puts dozens and dozens of items in the back of the van for him to deliver
They are not put in any order, there is no list with the addresses on and unfortunately he doesn't have the benefit of modern technology such as tablets in the van.    So how does he cope without all this modern technology?

First he takes time to prepare his delivery round, he arranges them in street order, then in order of the street number and finally he then puts them in concentrated areas so that the supplies can all be delivered in the most cost effective manner.
No complaints just dozens and dozens of satisfied customers, a win win situation

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2020, 03:52:18 pm
I take my hat off to your friend Hugo, delivery is no joke and organisation is the main thing. Years ago I used to deliver Meals on Wheels in the area around the town centre of Huddersfield. Many of the recipients lived in back to back terraces and/or flats. Yes, everyone got the same meal and pudding, but it was essential to stick to the order route which we planned ourselves, otherwise we could find that we were going back to the top of high rise flats, or trailing about down passages, some of which were awful.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 01, 2020, 06:21:40 pm
Organising and preparing things are so important, otherwise you make hard work for yourself and this is what is lacking with Bryson's.

My friend is conscientious and on a bad Winter's day 2 years ago  he had a delivery to make to one of the elderly customers but the lane was blocked with very deep snowdrifts.    So he left his van and walked half a mile through the deep snow to deliver the emergency medicine,  poor thing he only has short legs so cold feet wouldn't have been his only problem that day!

I think that I should give him a belated "Award of the Week " for that errand of mercy
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2020, 08:13:23 pm
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Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on May 01, 2020, 09:06:02 pm
8-50 Friday night and What has just zoomed round our road 🤔 Yes a Bryson bin wagon never stopped though 😂😂
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 02, 2020, 05:19:05 pm
Brysons picked up my brown bin 29/04/20 for 15/04/20 which was 13/04/20  ))* $booboo$ according to their website and today 02/05/20 picked up my 29/04/20 after some gentle requests!!

 I am now at peace with them {}{}
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on May 02, 2020, 09:20:55 pm
When the calendar was issued a few weeks ago I printed off two copies, one for ourselves and one for our neighbour we are back-to-back to, so in different roads.  He had not received the e-mail.

Our due date for collection was alternate Tuesdays but it has turned out that the calendar is one week out!  I have now printed off the caledar from the CCBC website which says brown bins same day as purple and pink bags, so our next collection should now be Tuesday 5th.

This morning Bryson went down our neighbour's road and empties his bin.  No sign of them in our road - yes I know it's Saturday.

As my neighbour was not expecting collection today he asked if they were doing our road today as well - "no, they're not the same post code" was the reply.

So there is a system!

Will they visit us on Tuesday, I wonder!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 02, 2020, 11:02:24 pm
I had another e-mail from Bryson but have deleted it but I can remember that they said not to put out the pink bags with the brown bin as they wouldn't collect them due to the Mochdre site being closed. 
I can't remember if the purple bags were also included in the e-mail
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 03, 2020, 02:59:17 am
In our recent e-mail we advised that “your garden waste will be collected on the same day as the pink and purple sacks.”  The Council has asked us to clarify that Crest are not collecting pink and purple sacks until further notice due to COVID-19.  The collection day information is still correct.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 03, 2020, 11:57:09 am
Our brown bin dates are on Thursday(ish) so we'll wait and see what happens
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on May 05, 2020, 10:25:25 am
It's Tuesday and brown bin day ... and our bin has just been emptied.

The wagon had the company name C P Davidson & Son Ltd written on it ... does that indicate contracting out?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on May 05, 2020, 10:54:39 am
It's Tuesday and brown bin day ... and our bin has just been emptied.
The wagon had the company name C P Davidson & Son Ltd written on it ... does that indicate contracting out?

A chorley company that does vehicle hire, maybe they are trying to play catch up.


CP Davidsoncpdavidson.co.uk
Cliff Brown, Darwen Borough Council. Data Protection · Contact · Downloads · Site Map. C.P. Davidson & Sons Ltd, Lyons Lane, Chorley, Lancashire, PR7 3BL.
About C.P. Davidson & Sons Ltd promise to provide the exact ...
Hire
CPD prides itself on its impressive hire fleet of vehicles. With over ...
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 05, 2020, 12:16:03 pm
No, I think they may be using a self-drive hire wagon.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on May 05, 2020, 02:34:22 pm
As we have said Brian when the two party's are sat round the table you put your papers( tender ) on the table council man goes through it, Yes everything in order ready to go you have won the tender, 🤔 That is how it's meant to work seems Not with our council 😡.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on May 06, 2020, 09:59:41 am
Collection due in our part of Gyffin today and carried out before 9.30am

Is this a sign of better things to come?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 06, 2020, 10:47:23 am
That sounds more like divine intervention Bellringer,  you must have friends in high places!        ;D


Can you put in a good word for me please   


Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bellringer on May 06, 2020, 06:47:53 pm
Yes Hugo but you might have to wait awhile!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: norman08 on May 06, 2020, 07:09:48 pm
Bryson have just come into the road 19-05, brand new wagon 5 guys + driver it's a side loader so they take the bins to one side of the road but don't bother taking it back over, so if your in work you will come home to look for your bin..
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 06, 2020, 07:54:13 pm
Yes Hugo but you might have to wait awhile!

Miracles can happen but they'll have to be quick as I can't cut my grass until the second bin arrives.


Norman,  those brown bins are so rare they are worth a bit of cash.      I've got my house number on the back of the bin and also somewhere else in case anyone thinks of pinching it
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: snowcap on May 06, 2020, 11:14:34 pm
Don't worry Hugo the grass will not be growing this weekend according to the weather forecast, we'r going back to arctic weather for a couple of days.
Is this divine intervention or what.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 07, 2020, 08:29:32 am
Hallelujah!      I'll be ringing the bells tonight at 8.00pm                  $bounce$


Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 11, 2020, 05:25:56 pm
Has Bryson gone into lockdown because I've seen no sign of the pickup going up and down my road?           &shake&

The last communication from them was that all bins would be delivered within 10 working days, well the 10th day is up and no second bin delivered.
They also promise to respond to e-mails within 24 hours but haven't done that either

I was reading their literature again and the question that was asked was how many old green bags full of garden rubbish could fit in the new brown bin.     The answer was if the green bag is completely  full then two full bags will fill the brown bin.
I've got nine bags already waiting to be emptied into the second brown bin and I bet I get most of them in it.      If as expected they don't deliver my second bin then this will be the third time since 30th March 2020 that they have missed my collection
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Meleri on May 11, 2020, 05:35:21 pm
We managed to get 4 full green bags in our brown bin & a very nice neighbour who has a small garden, let us put another one in her bin. If you can print off proof that you have paid for a second bin & show it to the Bryson crew they will take your green bags, Hugo. Another of our neighbours actually printed off the proof he had paid for a second bin & covered it over with plastic & stuck it to his bin & left it with 4 green bags full & they emptied them. Might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 11, 2020, 05:54:03 pm
Hugo, I think your brown bin has been mistakenly delivered over the road from us.

It was dropped off last week in between a house and a bungalow but neither property owner ordered it.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 11, 2020, 11:12:58 pm
Thanks for the tip Meleri,  I'll try that if I can find my receipt.      I can beat 4 bags and think that I put about 7 in my first bin, it's so heavy I can just about wheel it about.

If the second bin doesn't get delivered soon I'll be down to collect my bin from Llandudno
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 13, 2020, 04:53:18 pm
Well it has finally arrived , my second brown bin           $bounce$

I quickly filled it up with 6 bags of garden waste and will fill one bin up tomorrow with the remainder of green bags I've got.
As I've said before the staff are pleasant and hard working but the problem lies with the organisation or rather lack of it by the management
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2020, 06:32:59 pm
Well, the 13th was lucky for you Hugo. Never thought it would arrive!!!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on May 13, 2020, 10:11:28 pm
Yes I'm a happy chappie now it has arrived             clappinghappy

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2020, 03:46:50 pm
I heard the recycling wagon this morning, coming from quite a distance, I thought all my neighbours had decided to clear out all their excess jars and glassware etc at the same time....................on the other hand................... +}}{--          ;)


PREPARATIONS are being made to open household recycling centres in Mochdre and Abergele.
Conwy County Borough Council said they would operate with an appointment system in place and ‘strict’ social distancing measures.

On Friday, May 8, First Minister Mark Drakeford said a series of small adjustments were being made to the lockdown regulations in Wales.

This included enabling local authorities to begin the process of planning how to safely reopen libraries and municipal recycling centres.
Cllr Greg Robbins, cabinet member for environment and transportation at the council, said: “We are working closely with Bryson Recycling, who run the sites for us, to make sure that staff and the public can be safe when we reopen.”

“So that we can make sure we protect people with social distancing measures, things will be somewhat different from normal and access to the sites will be by appointment only.
Anyone arriving without an appointment will be turned away.”

More information will be given on how to book an appointment once the opening date has been finalised.
It is hoped the date will be in late May.                 ref Pioneer
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on May 19, 2020, 11:20:47 am
Went into my front lounge this morning and saw a huge lorry thing outside. There was an almighty crash as a chap threw a brown bin onto the pavement. He threw it over and attached a set of wheels to it. He then set off along the pavement with said bin. One minute later he returned complete with bin, heaved it onto the lorry and off they went !!!

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on May 20, 2020, 10:23:55 am
Conwy
Household recycling centres in Mochdre and Abergele will reopen on Tuesday, May 26,  operating a strict appointment system with timed slots being released every day for the next four weeks.

Conwy Council will also take bookings for bulky waste collections from this Thursday, May 21, with the service restarting from Monday, June 1.

There are 969 slots available every week in Abergele and 1,292 slots in Mochdre.

Council tax payers will also be able to book slots at recycling centres from the same date.

More   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everything-you-need-know-reopening-18278053 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everything-you-need-know-reopening-18278053)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 22, 2020, 05:41:41 pm
First slots at Mochdre Sat 30/05/20 as I type.....so not too bad. Thought it might be like a supermarket delivery slot a few weeks ago!
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on June 05, 2020, 02:39:25 pm
I don't know how feasible this would be, but a great idea, or something similar, I also think the vendor has a responsibility to check the perimeter of their place of business.

Calls for registration numbers to be stamped on fast food packaging after litter rise
A petition has been launched amid public anger as streets see increase in rubbish since the reopening of drive-thrus across North Wales

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/calls-registration-numbers-stamped-fast-18367622 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/calls-registration-numbers-stamped-fast-18367622)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on June 18, 2020, 11:32:51 am
Rumour/chat on FB, Brysons refusing brown bins if to heavy, also will keep a record of the bin tag, for further episodes  ?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: DVT on June 18, 2020, 12:46:46 pm
Surely a bin full of grass cuttings would be rather heavy, but isn't that what the "garden waste" bin is for?

Binmen refused to empty our green plastics bin (part of the three green ones) the other day because it had a lot of "hard plastic" in it - I had broken up an old plastic stacking shelf unit that was cracked.  Yes, I know there are "thermoplastics" (the soft type such as plastic bottles), and "thermoset" which is the hard stuff ... but the bin is just labelled "plastic" with no other definition, and it was plastic that we put in ... we were told to put the hard stuff in a bin bag and into the normal waste bin.  They did leave the leaflet saying "not allowed" but with no indication of what or why, missus went chasing after them and got the explanation.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Quiggs on June 18, 2020, 04:53:37 pm
We have two brown bins for the Bowling Club and we cut the green twice a week, approx 1650 sq. meters. Both bins now full and very heavy, also getting quite hot, if they self combust they will just have to sweep up the ashes. ;D
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 14, 2020, 05:31:18 pm
We have all seen the effects of fly tipping, here's one for the good guys..............

Revenge is sweet: Fed-up farmer hit by fly-tippers 25 times in a year sets up CCTV to catch latest culprit who left 400 tyres on his land... then dumps them on HIS doorstep.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8627203/Landowner-uses-tipper-truck-pile-400-tyres-lawn-fly-tipper.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8627203/Landowner-uses-tipper-truck-pile-400-tyres-lawn-fly-tipper.html)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on August 15, 2020, 03:28:20 pm
The unusual clue left in back of lorry that could help police identify 'disgraceful' flytippers


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/unusual-clue-left-back-lorry-18774381 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/unusual-clue-left-back-lorry-18774381)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 18, 2020, 10:34:47 am
I noticed Llyn Geirionydd being misused in the 80s, now it is disgraceful...............

From human poo to broken tents - the disgusting mess Snowdonia daytrippers left behind
The area has become a 'dumping ground' according to furious locals

As well as the littering, parking was also an issue, with the road by Llyn Geirionydd blocked, leading to warnings from North Wales Police and the Welsh Ambulance Service about the potential for emergency service vehicles not to be able to get through.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/human-poo-broken-tents-disgusting-18781658 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/human-poo-broken-tents-disgusting-18781658)

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on August 18, 2020, 01:02:55 pm
I saw that article earlier today and understand that people want to go to beautiful places but for the life of me I just can't understand how a minority of tourists can behave like that and spoil the area that they have wanted to go to.
As for the amount of traffic up there at the moment, I haven't seen as many vehicles on that narrow lane alongside Llyn Geirionydd.   You lived in that area in the past Steve and have you ever seen it so busy?
It must be dreadful for people who live in the Geirionydd and Crafnant areas and have to contend with that congestion on a daily basis in the Summer months
We love that area but won't be going there until it gets back to normal
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 18, 2020, 03:59:14 pm
Living there was a privilege, and we understood it was not just for us, however the difficulty for us was trying to accept that the visitors did not seem to appreciate what was around them, nor did they respect it, and it gradually got worse, and in the late 90s we decided to leave, after spending 14year's there, and 6 of those restoring the farmhouse, ready for our retirement, sad outcome.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 19, 2020, 06:40:12 pm
This morning we decided to have a drive to Betwys, not having been anywhere for weeks. Chaos doesn't describe what it was like. Cars parked everywhere, so we decided to drive to the car park after the Swallow Falls. Mistake... more cars all over the place, no bins so litter including used barbecues all over the parking places. We managed to find a small pull in to eat our picnic only to be blocked in by a young woman with 2 kiddies. As it was getting like Paddy's market with cars, campers and other vehicles, we decided to move on. We did eventually get out after my OH asking her to move her car which she unwillingly did. By this time Betwys was even busier, so we gave in and came home !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2020, 10:30:14 am
Nem, between that and your shopping experience, not the best of days,  :(  enjoy your rose, and hopefully the goats missed you last night, unlike us  :(
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 20, 2020, 01:33:38 pm
Oh heck, we thought that they had gone back up the Orme. Hope you didn't lose too many plants. The rose ha settled nicely thanks....in a pot indoors !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on August 20, 2020, 03:58:43 pm
I'm keeping away from those beauty spots for the same reason Nemesis, far too many cars and people about.

I'm in Llandudno tomorrow and I've a feeling that there won't be flocks of people by the West Shore boating lake but I don't think that I'll be tempted to go there for some reason.        *tumble*
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2020, 04:14:30 pm
Oh heck, we thought that they had gone back up the Orme. Hope you didn't lose too many plants. The rose ha settled nicely thanks....in a pot indoors !

Sorry Nem, they have not gone back, and I don't think this group will, they are to set in their ways now, also they spend a lot of time in the convent grounds, although someone has started chasing them out, guess where to  :'(   only hope is they pick up the group meant for Bristol soon ?
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 20, 2020, 07:05:42 pm
I'm keeping away from those beauty spots for the same reason Nemesis, far too many cars and people about.

I'm in Llandudno tomorrow and I've a feeling that there won't be flocks of people by the West Shore boating lake but I don't think that I'll be tempted to go there for some reason.        *tumble*

Don't count on it Hugo, when we drove past the other day the whole area was heaving !
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2020, 11:34:00 am
It was quiet when I went past the boating lake earlier this morning and surprisingly it was calm too but judging from the West Shore web cam the wind has picked up a bit now.
I did notice a lot of standing water by St David's Hospice but perhaps the drains are blocked with all that sand that now goes down Abbey Road
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 22, 2020, 09:54:18 am
The Rotarians joined the regular group of 30 to 40 volunteers in Llandudno, Conwy, on their beach clean up on Saturday, September 19 which was also World Cleanup Day.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 07, 2020, 09:56:11 am
Residents of a North Wales town will soon take part in a pilot for a new digital method of tracking recycling, helping Wales on its route to a zero-waste, circular economy.

The Welsh Government is joining Polytag Ltd, Conwy County Borough Council and WRAP to trial a new deposit return scheme (DRS) in Colwyn Heights, Conwy.

The four-week trial – the first of its kind in Wales – will involve a number of homes in the area, and is due to start in the spring.

https://www.wales247.co.uk/conwy-to-trial-deposit-return-scheme-for-plastic-bottles/ (https://www.wales247.co.uk/conwy-to-trial-deposit-return-scheme-for-plastic-bottles/)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on January 01, 2021, 10:42:11 am
Talk on FB about the difficulty in disposing of Xmas tree's, even if you have a brown bin, they may say it is to big, and you will have to cut it up to fit in your bin ?     

Top tips on how to get rid of your real Christmas tree
Now that the festive season is drawing to a close many are looking forward to packing the decorations

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/top-tips-how-rid-your-19545276 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/top-tips-how-rid-your-19545276)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on January 21, 2021, 12:40:34 pm
No use complaining if we do not make the effort................


OPEN CONSULTATION
Reducing emissions from domestic burning of solid fuels


We want your views on our proposals to ensure only the cleanest forms of solid fuels and appliances are used in Wales.

How to respond.....  https://gov.wales/reducing-emissions-domestic-burning-solid-fuels?fbclid=IwAR2qlon_1rz6y90IZ7aq-egrmMko6Sd20DopcBUDUmhl6xhGcAFzPiL8xdo (https://gov.wales/reducing-emissions-domestic-burning-solid-fuels?fbclid=IwAR2qlon_1rz6y90IZ7aq-egrmMko6Sd20DopcBUDUmhl6xhGcAFzPiL8xdo)


The main survey is a bit long winded,  the easy survey is here   https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/78X5NF/ (https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/78X5NF/)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area......For Kids and big adults
Post by: SteveH on January 25, 2021, 01:29:12 pm
I was surprised to find out this is a common practice throughout the country  :o

CONWY County Borough Council are asking the public for help in naming their fleet of gritters.

The council has 13 gritter trucks which are on standby 24/7 between October and April to spread rock salt and plough snow. The trucks are deployed on first priority routes which cover a third of the county’s roads, including main traffic and bus routes and routes for the emergency services.

A judging panel, including winter works staff, will shortlist the entries with the final names being decided by a public website vote.

Cllr Greg Robbins, cabinet member for Environment and Transportation said: "I’m looking forward to seeing the creative entries from our residents and we hope this provides a bit of fun in these difficult times.

"But the serious message behind this competition is to raise awareness of how important it is for everyone to be prepared for winter conditions, and to recognise the work that our staff do in keeping the roads safe.”

The gritter names will be added to the council’s new tracking system, which will allow residents to see gritter locations in real time, via the council’s website.

Residents can suggest names on the council’s website before Wednesday, February 3.

The entries should be in Welsh or English and be fun, original and clean.

Visit www.conwy.gov.uk/nameourgritters (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/nameourgritters)     or check Conwy council web site

 I have pinched mine  :-[      GRITTY GRITTY BANG BANG
Title: Re: Recycling across the area......For Kids and big adults
Post by: SteveH on February 16, 2021, 10:10:43 am
Update on the above
The 50 names shortlisted for North Wales council's gritter fleet - and some are hilarious
Some allude to the Covid crisis, other play on Welsh words and quite a few have celebrity references
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/50-names-shortlisted-north-wales-19845438 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/50-names-shortlisted-north-wales-19845438)

Auntie Freeze
True Gritter
Super Spreader
Tafod y Ddraig
Pretty Gritty
Lorrius the Grittorious
Ice Ice Baby
Gertrude the Gritter
Freezy Rider
Dragons Breath
Daw Eto Haul
Grit British Flake Off
Caledfwlch y Cliriwr
IC/DaiC
Lady Gritter Sparkles
Margrit
Rhewi Sant
Sir Gritalot
Rocky
Sally Salt
Granny Graenog
Eazy Peazy Anti Freezy
Snowcial Distancing
Hal N
Danny Degritter
Glyndwr Graeanu
I am Griit
Snow Donia
The Greatest Snow Van
Rhodri Rhewi
Dave
Huw Halen Lon
Gritasaurus
Tom y Toddwr
Professor Chris Whitty Gritty
Van Halen
Saltan of Swing
Miserable Ol’ Grit
Chilly Billy
Frost Fighters
I’m a Celeb-gritty
Newville Snowfall
Llywelyn y Rhew Ola
Grit Over It
Big Mean Grit Machine
Keith Gritchards
The Dehydrator
Optimus Grit
The Grit Escape
Jack De-Frost
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 05, 2021, 12:02:58 pm
I know you have all been waiting for the results with baited breath............................................  ;)

CONWY County Borough Council’s gritters will be taking to the roads with new names chosen by residents.

Members of the public suggested more than 450 names in January via the council’s website and social media and more than 1,400 residents voted on the final shortlist.    cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19138333.gritters-take-roads-conwy-names-chosen-residents/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19138333.gritters-take-roads-conwy-names-chosen-residents/)

Auntie Freeze
Gritasaurus
Sir Gritalot
Miserable Ol’ Grit
Snow Donia
Professor Chris Whitty Gritty
Eazy Peazy Anti Freezy
Jack De-Frost
Dave
Van Halen
Snowcial Distancing
Freezy Rider
I’m A Celebgritty
                                     
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on June 18, 2021, 10:13:20 am
CONWY residents made the most of recycling collections in the last year to make sure their lockdown clear outs had a positive effect.

Between June 2020 and March 2021, Conwy residents saved more than 100 tonnes of clothing from landfill and incineration by using the Conwy County Borough Council's home recycling collections. It’s an increase of 21 tonnes on the previous year, the equivalent of 42,000 pairs of jeans.

Charity Crest Cooperative has been working with Conwy County Borough Council for 20 years to improve recycling rates and give unwanted items a new home.

Residents can recycle clothing every fortnight in purple bags as part of the Council’s kerbside recycling collections. On average, the charity is able to reuse 93 per cent and recycle seven per cent , with nothing going to landfill.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/colwyn_bay/19373720.conwy-residents-lockdown-clear-outs-positive-benefits/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/colwyn_bay/19373720.conwy-residents-lockdown-clear-outs-positive-benefits/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)


Colwyn Heights residents to scan recycling as part of first-in-Wales pilot scheme


THE recycling habits of residents in Conwy are will be tracked as part of a pilot scheme to reduce the amount of waste going to landfill.

The four-week trial, which is the first of its kind in Wales, involves households in the Colwyn Heights area that can earn rewards for their local school by scanning their recycling.

Conwy County Borough Council is working with the Welsh Government, tag and trace firm Polytag and sustainability organisation WRAP to trial the new deposit return scheme.

Residents will be visited by recruiters and those who agree to sign up, will be given a set of plastic water bottles with the Polytag unique codes. Once they have used the bottles, they will be scanned using a free app before putting them out for recycling as usual.

The bottles will then be scanned by the local authority's household waste recycling team on collection day.

For each bottle scanned at either end of the deposit return process, householders will receive a digital token worth 20p. The tokens will then be donated to raise funds for Ysgol Pen y Bryn.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19379394.colwyn-heights-residents-scan-recycling-part-first-in-wales-pilot-scheme/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19379394.colwyn-heights-residents-scan-recycling-part-first-in-wales-pilot-scheme/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on July 23, 2021, 10:24:38 am
A COUNCIL has been overwhelmed with cardboard following a surge in online shopping.

Conwy County Borough Council said that despite sending out an extra vehicle to collect large cardboard items "there's often still too much for us to manage".

One of the problems is that boxes do not get flattened and take up extra space - one cardboard box was "the size of a skip", while another household had not flattened boxes used for a "whole kitchen refit".

The council has collected 518 tonnes of cardboard over the last year, the equivalent of more than one million medium-sized boxes.

It has urged residents to flatten cardboard boxes, spread the days they are put out for collection over a number of weeks or to use free household recycling centre services.

The council said: "In the last year we’ve collected an extra 518.66 tonnes of cardboard from residents. That’s the equivalent of 1,037,320 medium moving boxes.

"More online shopping means a lot more cardboard and our crews can’t fit it all in the recycling trucks. We have an extra vehicle to collect bigger cardboard, but there’s often still too much cardboard for us to manage.

"Flatten your boxes before you put them out. This makes a huge difference to how much cardboard we can collect

"If you have a lot of cardboard, put it out for collection over a few weeks."                          ref pioneer
Title: Re: Recycling across the area..Morons
Post by: SteveH on July 24, 2021, 09:46:24 am
Mum compares 'disgusting' rubbish left behind at Snowdonia beauty spot to 'aftermath of Glastonbury'
Cara Louise Jones visited Llyn Padarn in Gwynedd with her children yesterday and took footage of the litter left behind by other visitors

A video has shown the extent of littering at a popular beauty spot in Snowdonia during this week's heatwave - and the mess left behind by sun seekers compared to the aftermath of festivals like Glastonbury.

Shocking Video   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mum-compares-disgusting-rubbish-left-21126037 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mum-compares-disgusting-rubbish-left-21126037)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2021, 12:52:17 pm
That incident was bad enough but just read this, it's disgusting.     Just in case anyone doesn't know where the Afon Cegin is it's a stream behind the Bangor Crematorium and the Gypsy camp and it flows out into Porth Penrhyn

Warning not to swim in Gwynedd river after 'nappies, sanitary products and condoms' seen in water
Gwynedd Council and NRW have asked people not to bathe in Afon Cegin, Bangor due to the 'potential public health issue'



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/warning-not-swim-gwynedd-river-21130947 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/warning-not-swim-gwynedd-river-21130947)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area..STOP PRESS
Post by: SteveH on July 27, 2021, 01:22:29 pm
WASTE collection services have been disrupted due to staff shortages amid the pandemic.

Conwy County Borough Council said general waste and recycling may not be emptied according to its usual timetable due to staff having to self-isolate.

Households have been urged to keep their bins outside their home so that collections can be carried out as soon as possible.

"Due to staff shortages, we are not able to guarantee to collect your recycling or general waste on the usual day," a council spokesperson said. "If your containers aren’t emptied, please leave them out – we will get to you!

"Some of our waste and recycling crew members are self-isolating at the moment, to keep the public and their colleagues safe. .

"We hope the disruption to collections is short and we’ll keep you up to date when things change."
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on August 03, 2021, 10:13:48 am
Llandudno’s Asda supermarket is hosting a litter pick as part of the chain’s commitment to ‘keeping beauty spots beautiful’.

To help combat litter leaving, Asda has appointed ‘Picnic Rangers’ across the UK to host in excess of 400 litter picks, with more than 8,000 people to encourage communities to love where they live and urge people to picnic responsibly.

Llandudno’s own effort will take place on Sunday, August 15 at 6pm along with community members at Craig-y-Don, starting at the paddling pool.

Most important tip is to remember that, whatever you take with you when enjoying a picnic, you must take home.”

Every year, there is roughly 30 million tonnes of litter dropped, which is up 500 per cent since the 1960s.

The litter picks will help preserve beauty areas and allow the public to experience the best of what the UK has to offer

“I don’t think any of us want to see that this year, so we’ve enlisted our team of Picnic Rangers to help encourage to picnic responsibly.

“The Picnic Rangers will be coordinating over 400 litter picks across the country and will also be sharing the best kept local beauty spots for people to enjoy.

At the end of the summer, Asda will be donating benches made out of the recycled waste collected at the litter pick events to a park in each region across the UK.                                         ref pioneer

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2021, 07:25:54 pm
Excellent initiative...believe it or not I find picking up litter is actually quite therapeutic although seeing it makes my blood boil!!

Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2021, 10:28:32 am
They sound surprised, what did they expect ?

Fears introducing garden waste charge on Anglesey was a 'mistake' as recycling rates drop
There are claims some residents are placing garden rubbish in general waste bins following introduction of £35 annual levy

A report presented to the Corporate Scrutiny Committee told how year on year drops had been noted in the percentage of waste reused, recycled or composted.

And there are concerns some residents may now be dumping their garden waste into their general waste bins instead as a result of the £35 annual fee.

The latest performance scorecard for the first quarter of 2021/22 found that only 64.55% was recycled against an internal target of 70%, down on the 67.07% and 72.79% recorded over the same period in 2020/21 and 2019/20 respectively.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fears-introducing-garden-waste-charge-21568946 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fears-introducing-garden-waste-charge-21568946)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on October 17, 2021, 10:14:29 am
EVERY tonne of garden waste collected by a     social enterprise ? !    in Conwy will see £1 donated to charity.

Bryson Recycling has launched its Recycling Rewards campaign that aims to boost local recycling and raise much needed funds for charities in the county.

Through this innovative campaign Bryson will donate £1 to charity for every tonne of garden waste collected through their brown bin collection service that they provide on behalf of Conwy County Borough Council.

From the start of December 2020 to the end of September 2021, Bryson have collected over 6550 tonnes of garden waste, meaning they will donate £6550 to charity.

This year they have shortlisted three fantastic local charities and are asking Conwy residents to help them choose how much to donate to each. Their donation to each charity will be based on the number of votes they receive.

The charities are St David’s Hospice, which delivers free, high-quality, specialist care to local people living with life-limiting illnesses; Hope House Children’s Hospice, which provides children’s palliative care ensuring every family facing the death of a child gets the very best care and support when and where they need it; and Incredible Edible, which galvanises local communities by growing and celebrating local food.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19650150.conwy-social-enterprise-donate-1-every-tonne-garden-waste-collects/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19650150.conwy-social-enterprise-donate-1-every-tonne-garden-waste-collects/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 26, 2021, 10:06:01 am
North Wales recycling centre opening times between Boxing Day and New Year's Day
Most recycling centres will remain open despite more Covid restrictions being introduced

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-recycling-centre-opening-22485482?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-recycling-centre-opening-22485482?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)

Gofer Household Recycling Centre, Rhuddlan Road, St George, Abergele, LL22 9SE

December 26 - Closed

December 27 - 31 - 9am-5pm

January 1 - Closed

Mochdre Household Recycling Centre, Bron-y-Nant Road, Mochdre, LL28 4YL

December 26 - Closed

December 27 - 31 - 9am-5pm

January 1 - Closed
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2021, 09:58:18 am
How and where to dispose of your Christmas tree this year in North Wales
It is crucial you dispose of all waste in the correct manner

It is crucial you dispose of all waste in the correct manner, and Christmas trees are no exception.

Whether you have a fake or real tree, it will either need to be disposed of or stored away for another year.

Don’t be fooled into thinking that real Christmas trees can be left on common land because they’re natural

Don’t be fooled into thinking that real Christmas trees can be left on common land because they’re natural, although you can replant them - find out more here.

Real Christmas trees fall under the "green waste" category - and dumping green waste is still classed as fly-tipping.

Those who do fly-tip can face a fine of up to £50,000 or 12 months' imprisonment if found guilty at a Magistrate’s Court.

Here is where to safely dispose of your fake and real Christmas trees this year across North Wales:

Conwy
Disposal method: residents who have signed up for a garden waste collection service with Bryson Recycling will have their trees collected. Residents also have the option to book an appointment with local recycling centres in Mochdre and Abergele who will accept real Christmas trees free of charge.

Time and date: Bryson Recycling will be running their collection service throughout January. Mochdre and Abergele Recycling Centres will be open for an hour longer each day from the 27th to the 31st of December.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-dispose-your-christmas-tree-22466274 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-dispose-your-christmas-tree-22466274)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on February 23, 2022, 02:03:24 pm
THE GRAND Welsh Litter Pick will return to North Wales later in February as the region joins the national initiative to create cleaner public spaces.

Run by the Marine Conservation Society in partnership with Green Paw Project and One Global Ocean, the event will make up this year’s edition of the Grand Week in Wales.

From February 22 to March 1, the Grand Welsh Litter Pick aims to inspire communities to get together and clean up our environment by filling 1,000 bags of litter and/or picking up 1,000 pieces of plastic across the country.

One Global Ocean will process all of the plastic collected from the Grand Welsh Litter Pick beach cleans.

This plastic will then be converted into useful items such as plant pots, clocks and coasters at the reSource CIC workshop in North Wales, closing the loop and adding value to ocean plastic litter.

Litter picks will take place in Llandudno and Colwyn Bay on February 24 and 25 respectively.

In Llandundo, it will be held on the beach front next to the pier between 1pm and 6pm, and at Colwyn Bay, it will take place at Porth Eirias beach from 10am until 2pm.


For more information the greenpawproject     visit www.greenpawproject.org/about-the-grand-welsh-litter-pick (http://www.greenpawproject.org/about-the-grand-welsh-litter-pick).
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2022, 10:05:14 am
Wales is taking action against marine litter as it becomes the first UK nation to introduce a recycling scheme for fishing gear.

The first collection, which took place today on Global Recycling Day (March 18), has proved a huge success, with some three tonnes of fishing gear collected for recycling from seven harbours around Wales.

The new scheme will help to bolster Wales’ recycling credentials –Wales has the best household waste recycling record in the UK and the third best in the world.

Recycling bins for used fishing gear have been placed at Swansea, Milford Haven, Fishguard, Cardigan, Conwy, Anglesey and Holyhead harbours. They were filled to the brim with fishing nets, ropes and buoys, which could otherwise have ended up in the sea or in landfill.

They will instead be shredded and turned into pellets, before being re-used in kayaks, bodyboards or in street furniture.

ref https://www.wales247.co.uk/wales-becomes-first-uk-nation-to-rollout-fishing-gear-recycling-scheme?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.wales247.co.uk/wales-becomes-first-uk-nation-to-rollout-fishing-gear-recycling-scheme?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2022, 10:14:19 am
FROM April 1, residents in Conwy County will be able to use recycling centres in Denbighshire.                ref pioneer

The change comes after a joint contract was awarded by both county councils to Bryson Recycling, which already managed the Conwy County Borough Council sites.

As well as the two recycling centres at Mochdre and Abergele, and the monthly mobile service which visits Llangernyw, Llanrwst and Cerrigydrudion, residents now have access to three recycling sites in Denbighshire, including Rhyl and Denbigh.

A council spokesperson said: “This arrangement will make it easier for residents who live close to the county border, whose nearest recycling facility might be in Denbighshire.

“Residents will be able to book 6 visits in two months across all the available sites.”

The Council introduced a booking system for their household recycling centres in 2020, to allow them to be reopened safely during the pandemic.

After receiving significant positive feedback from residents, the Council has decided to keep the booking system permanently, as it reduces queues and waiting time for customers and makes the service more efficient.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2022, 01:56:07 pm
Companies will face clean-up costs if their packaging is littered, under new rules being introduced.

They will also be fined if their rubbish is difficult to recycle or if they miss their recycling targets.

The changes are part of the Welsh government's efforts to reduce waste and come into force from 2024.

Wales is ranked third in the world for domestic recycling and the Welsh government wants all waste either reused or recycled by 2050.

The new "polluter pays" rules, which are being adopted across the UK, would move the cost of dealing with packaging waste away from households and councils to the producers.

Ministers hope this will encourage companies to reduce their use of packaging and use materials which are easier to recycle.

Keep Wales Tidy's Jo Golley said: "This is not designed for the people throwing litter, there are different campaigns for that.

"This is for the producer of the waste, the beginning where the waste starts. We are trying to eradicate those problems."

cont  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-60968570 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-60968570)
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 01, 2022, 10:29:55 am
'Green vehicle revolution' hits Conwy with first EV truck

This fully electric truck is the first of its kind in Wales and it is incredibly exciting to see it work as effectively and efficiently as its traditional petrol and diesel powered counterparts.

?With an increasing number of residents and businesses switching to electric power, it is clear to see that the green vehicle revolution continues to power change right across our country, and I am delighted that the Local Authority has followed suit.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20873029.green-vehicle-revolution-hits-conwy-first-ev-truck/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 06, 2022, 10:18:16 am
CONWY County Borough Council and Crest are working with ?Podback?, a not-for-profit coffee pod recycling service, to help residents recycle their coffee pods at home, as part of a new kerbside collection service.

The county-wide service is the first of its kind to launch in Wales and collections will start from September 26.

Podback is a nationwide recycling service created by the biggest names in coffee pod systems, Nespresso, NESCAF? Dolce Gusto and Tassimo.

The new service supports the council?s aim to reduce waste and increase recycling.

Residents will be able to recycle their plastic and aluminium coffee pods at home by signing up.

Once registered, residents will be provided with Podback recycling bags and instructions on how to use the scheme.

When bags are full, residents simply put them out as normal on their fortnightly textiles and electricals kerbside collection day or if they live in a rural area, book a collection by calling Crest.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20906281.pioneering-new-coffee-pod-recycling-service-comes-conwy/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Recycling across the area......Xmas bins
Post by: SteveH on December 23, 2022, 10:28:35 am
Christmas bin collections dates for North Wales as households see changes to usual dates
Some areas will see their rubbish and recycling collected earlier than normal

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/christmas-bin-collections-dates-north-25784969?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Recycling across the area....Xmas trees
Post by: SteveH on December 29, 2022, 10:28:03 am
How and where you can recycle your Christmas tree in Wales in 2022
It depends on where you live

Conwy
If you have a garden waste collection subscription with Bryson Recycling, they will collect your real tree with either of your collections in January. You can check when your collection date is by looking on the Conwy County Borough Council's website. And if you don?t have a subscription, you can take your tree to one of the authority's household recycling centres. You can also shred and compost your tree at home.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/how-you-can-recycle-your-25846892?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Recycling across the area....Amended the days for waste collection
Post by: SteveH on January 18, 2023, 10:38:09 am
Please note this story is from the 17th January .........if in doubt double check with the council

CONWY County Borough Council have amended the days for waste collection due to the snowy road conditions.

As snow sweeps across North Wales, the Council said its teams are "struggling" to make many collections today.

Residents have been advised to leave their black bins out on Saturday for collection, and any missed recycling will be collected next week.

Nappy collections will also return next week.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: "Due to snowy road conditions, our recycling & waste crews are struggling to collect today.

"Please put your black bins out on Saturday for collection. We'll collect your missed recycling next week.

"Nappy collections will return next week ? you can put any excess in bin bags
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on February 09, 2023, 10:42:15 am
Baravelli's hand-crafted 50kg polar bear turned into electricity

Mark Baravelli, director of the artisan chocolatiers in Conwy, said: "After visiting the zoo and sitting in the window, Bianca wasn?t really fit for consumption. We wanted to make sure she was as useful as possible, so we got in touch with the council to ask about anaerobic digestion.

"Polar bears in the wild are losing habitat because climate change is reducing the sea ice they live and hunt on. By taking Bianca to be anaerobically digested, she?s been turned into fossil fuel-free energy, doing her bit for reducing carbon emissions.?

Bianca was collected by Conwy County Borough Council?s recycling team and taken to the Biogen plant in St Asaph, which processes food waste collected from the county?s residents. Last year, Conwy residents recycled 5,769 tonnes of food waste, creating renewable energy and fertiliser for local farms.

Once at the site, food waste is shredded and turned in a porridge-like substance, which is pumped into digestion tankers. As the food waste digests, the gas it gives off is collected to drive an engine and create electricity, while the leftovers are pasteurised to create fertiliser. In total, the Biogen site processes 22,500 tonnes of food waste every year, generating 1 million watts of electricity.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23306710.baravellis-hand-crafted-50kg-polar-bear-turned-electricity/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Recycling across the area....Welsh Water: Sewage
Post by: SteveH on April 03, 2023, 10:00:06 am
Welsh Water: Sewage dumped in Welsh waterways for 600,000 hours

Water company Welsh Water released sewage into rivers, lakes and the sea around Wales for almost 600,000 hours last year, data shows.

This accounts for more than 25% of all hours of discharges into waterways across Wales and England.

Latest figures also show more than 83,000 spills in 2022 - 77,000 of which were "significant".

The not-for-profit company said removing Combined Storm Overflows (CSOs) was too expensive.

It added that it was targeting investment in areas with the biggest environmental impact.

Although not illegal, campaigners and experts say releasing the sewage poses a danger to human and animal health.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65156560
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2023, 09:29:18 am
TERRACYLE
Many local people are keen recyclers, but there are lots of everyday, household items that are difficult to recycle.  That's why we wanted to make people aware of TerraCycle....  https://www.terracycle.com/en-GB/

TerraCycle provide home and school based recycling programmes that include a whole range of items.  All you have to do is visit their website and type the item you want to recycle in the search bar on their homepage.

VISIT TERRACYCLE WEBSITE
Title: Re: Recycling across the area.........Conwy
Post by: SteveH on June 10, 2023, 09:43:39 am
Community-minded youngsters get stuck in to clean up Conwy estate

A TOTAL of 50 volunteers took part in a litter pick to start a summer campaign to spruce up a housing estate in Conwy.

The two-month-long project on the Parc Peulwys estate in Llysfaen, above Colwyn Bay, is being organised by housing association Cartrefi Conwy and sister organisation Creating Enterprise who are urging tenants to get involved.

Cartrefi and Creating Enterprise are joining forces for similar events in other neighbourhoods, including a Big Clean-Up day beginning at Ty Hapus Community Centre, Llandudno.

?Cartrefi Conwy wants to listen to the community?s concerns and to act upon them so I urge people to come forward and join in the various activities they have planned over the summer.?

Cartrefi Conwy tenants are advised to check out Facebook and the housing association?s website for more information about the programme of activities.

full story https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23575631.community-minded-youngsters-get-stuck-clean-conwy-estate/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on September 29, 2023, 10:18:00 am
People are getting 10p back for their used drinks containers in a town trialling a deposit scheme that could come to all parts of the UK.

Customers scan a bar code - now on every bottle, can or carton for sale in Brecon, Powys - then put it in a recycling bin or at set collection points to receive their money.

"A man brought in 68 bottles," said one shop manager. "We dealt with it."

All UK nations aim to have deposit return schemes in place by 2025.

But getting them off the drawing board has proved hugely problematic.

Retailers worry about costly infrastructure, councils have concerns about lost income from kerbside collections - and there have been rows between the UK and devolved governments over whether to include glass.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66948446
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Hugo on September 29, 2023, 01:22:04 pm
It'll be interesting to see how the trial works out, hopefully there will be less litter about in that area.     As kids we used to supplement our pocket money by taking bottles back to the shops and pubs
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SAJ on September 29, 2023, 04:10:41 pm
Hugo, best time for bottles to take back for the 3d refund was Saturday afternoon when the day trippers had gone, leaving behind their pop bottles by the bins on the prom. Hopefully, this scheme will take off. A similar scheme operates in parts of Scandinavia where bottles/cans can be deposited in a machine inside certain shops in return for vouchers to use in those shops.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: Dave on September 29, 2023, 05:03:00 pm
They have been doing it in Germany for years. They lead the way in recycling .
Title: Re: The eight common plastic items the Welsh Government will ban from next month
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2023, 09:59:42 am
The eight common plastic items the Welsh Government will ban from next month
'We?re asking businesses and organisations to ready themselves for the change'

There is roughly a month to go before a number of single use plastic items will be banned from being sold across Wales. In December 2022, Wales made history by becoming the first part of the UK to legislate against a thorough list of single-use plastics when the Senedd approved legislation to ban selling unnecessary, disposable products to consumers.

The new law is a key step in reducing the flow of damaging plastic waste into the Welsh environment and is being introduced following consultation with the public and other stakeholders. It will give local authorities the power to enforce the offence of supplying or offering to supply the commonly littered items ? even when they are free.

This will start to come into effect on Monday, October 30, when the following items will be banned from being sold across the country:

Single-use plastic plates
Single-use plastic cutlery
Single-use plastic drinks stirrers
Cups made of expanded or foamed extruded polystyrene.
Takeaway food containers made of expanded or foamed extruded polystyrene
Single-use plastic balloon sticks
Single-use plastic-stemmed Cotton buds
Single-use plastic drinking straws (*exemptions for those who need them to eat and drink safely and independently)

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/eight-common-plastic-items-welsh-27818828
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on October 12, 2023, 09:52:07 am
Nearly half a billion small electricals such as cables, lights, mini fans and disposable vapes, were thrown away last year, research from Material Focus has shown.

These "Fast Tech" items, the electrical version of fast fashion, are the fastest-growing e-waste type, it says.

The average home also has thirty unused electrical items gathering dust, the research shows.

These items contain valuable raw materials, and all can be recycled.

The not-for-profit group Material Focus commissioned a survey of 2000 people from Opinium Research. Based on the responses it calculates that 471m "Fast Tech" items were thrown away in the UK last year, including:

260 million disposable vapes
30 million LED, solar and decorative lights
26 million cables
10 million USB sticks
7 million cordless headphones
5 million mini fans.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67082005

How can I recycle my electricals?
Used electricals can be sold, donated, repaired - or if none of those is possible, recycled.
You can take old electricals to recycling centres, libraries, and other locations to be collected. Some councils will collect from your door.
Retailers are also required to help people dispose of old electricals, even if they didn't sell them to you in the first place.
The Recycle Your Electricals website has a guide to local recycling facilities.
Title: Re: Recycling across the area............Wales makes new law on recycling
Post by: SteveH on October 18, 2023, 09:20:37 am
Wales makes new law on recycling

From April 6, 2024, it will be illegal for all businesses, charities and public sector organisations not to sort their waste for recycling. The list of who the law applies to is comprehensive, covering schools, universities, GPs, hospitality venues and prisons.

All businesses, charities and public sector organisations will need to separate their waste. The NHS and private hospitals have an extra two years to comply with the law.

It also applies to all waste and recycling collectors and processors who manage household-like waste from workplaces. The Welsh Government says it is introducing this law to improve the quality and quantity of how we collect and separate waste in a bid to reaching zero waste. We are already the best in the UK for domestic recycling and third best in the world.

cont https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/new-law-means-every-workplace-27922906?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Recycling across the area...plastic items are banned in Wales from today
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2023, 09:49:07 am
These eight common plastic items are banned in Wales from today
Ministers hope it will reduce littering and curb the country's 'throwaway culture'

Businesses, government bodies and charities ? even the Church in Wales ? have been running down stocks ahead of the switch to reusable or non-plastic alternatives. A similar ban was introduced in England on October 1, though the Welsh prohibition will eventually go further.

The "Phase 1" ban affects eight groups of products. From today, will be illegal to sell ? or give away for free ? to consumers in Wales any of the products listed below.

Single-use plastic plates. This includes paper plates with a laminated plastic surface.
Single-use plastic cutlery.
Single-use plastic drinks stirrers. Liquid food stirrers are also banned.
Cups made of expanded or foamed extruded polystyrene.
Takeaway food containers made of expanded or foamed extruded polystyrene.
Single-use plastic balloon sticks.
Single-use plastic-stemmed cotton buds.
Single-use plastic drinking straws. Exemptions are available for those who need them to eat and drink ?safely and independently?.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/eight-common-plastic-items-banned-28004970
Title: Re: Recycling across the area...........Fly tipping stats
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2023, 10:36:29 am
Almost 40,000 Wales fly-tipping incidents bring 55 fines

Clearing fly-tipping in Wales cost ?1.83m in the last year, according to latest figures.

In all 39,853 fly-tipping incidents were reported but just 55 fines issued.

Although the number of fly-tipping incidents reported across Wales fell slightly, there was still a rise in 12 local council areas.

Incidents in Wrexham quadrupled and dumping doubled in Ceredigion, although councils put this down partly to improving how tipping is reported.

This is 4% fewer than the previous year and less than recorded during the Covid lockdown period.

But it is 12% more than five years ago, according to the annual figures published by the Welsh government.

cont plus local area stats....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67439420
Title: Re: Recycling across the area.........Xmas bins and recycling
Post by: SteveH on December 23, 2023, 10:34:59 am
When bins and recycling will be collected in North Wales over Christmas 2023
Don't get caught out as the dates will be changing

Conwy:
Recycling, waste, electrical & textile collections, and nappies and incontinence products

If your normal collection day is Monday, your Christmas collection day is Saturday 23 December and your New Year collection day is Tuesday 2 January
If your normal collection day is Tuesday, your Christmas collection day is Wednesday 27 December and your New Year collection day is Wednesday 3 January
If your normal collection day is Wednesday, your Christmas collection day is Thursday 28 December and your New Year collection day is Thursday 4 January
If your normal collection day is Thursday, your Christmas collection day is Friday 29 December and your New Year collection day is Friday 5 January
If your normal collection day is Friday, your Christmas collection day is Saturday 30 December and your New Year collection day is Saturday 6 January.
Find your waste and recycling collection days and download your collection calendar: Check my collection day - Conwy County Borough Council

Download the app to get reminders for your collection days: The Conwy App - Conwy County Borough Council

Garden waste
If you have a subscription with Bryson Recycling for the garden waste collection service:
If your normal collection day is Monday, your Christmas collection day is Saturday 23 December and your New Year collection day is Tuesday 2 January.
If your normal collection day is Tuesday, your Christmas collection day is Wednesday 27 December and your New Year collection day is Wednesday 3 January.
If your normal collection day is Wednesday, your Christmas collection day is Thursday 28 December and your New Year collection day is Thursday 4 January.
If your normal collection day is Thursday, your Christmas collection day is Friday 29 December and your New Year collection day is Friday 5 January.
If your normal collection day is Friday, your Christmas collection day is Saturday 30 December and your New Year collection day is Saturday 6 January.
Real Christmas trees

If you have a garden waste collection subscription with Bryson Recycling, they will collect your real tree with either of your collections in January. Please cut your tree into lengths no greater than one metre and put them into your brown bin for Bryson to be able to collect them. If you don?t have a subscription, you can take your tree to one of our Household Recycling Centres. You can also shred and compost your tree at home.

Further information about operating times for Conwy services during the 2023-24 Christmas period can be found on our website: Arrangements for Christmas and New Year - Conwy County Borough Council.......https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Spotlight/Christmas-and-New-Year-Opening-Hours/Christmas-and-New-Year-Opening-Hours.aspx
Title: Re: Recycling across the area
Post by: SteveH on December 24, 2023, 10:29:34 am
North Wales recycling centres opening and closing times over Christmas and New Year
Check the opening times before you make that trip out

Conwy:
Christmas and New Year - opening hours winter: 9-4pm

The Household Recycling Centres are closed on:

Christmas Day (25th December)
Boxing Day (26th December)
New Year?s Day (1st January)
Longer opening times: The Household Recycling Centres are open from 9am to 5pm from 27 December to 31 December.

Normal opening hours (winter) start again on 2 January.

Mochdre Household Recycling Centre - Bron-y-Nant RoadMochdre LL28 4YL
Gofer Household Recycling Centre - Rhuddlan Road St George Abergele LL22 9SE
Title: Re: Recycling across the area...Recycling electrical goods
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2023, 09:47:01 am
A great idea......................

Recycling electrical goods could be done at kerbside and drop-off points in shops

Kerbside collections for small electrical goods such as toasters and hairdryers could be rolled out across the UK from 2026 under government proposals to boost recycling.

Ministers are also considering drop-off points in shops where households can recycle unwanted items for free.

Retailers would also be made to collect unwanted larger electrical items when delivering replacements.

Customers would no longer be charged for collection on delivery services.

Many retailers, such as B&Q, John Lewis and Currys, currently offer a paid-for collection service for large electrical appliances when customers buy a similar item.

The reforms are part of the government's plans to boost recycling, as it found 155,000 tonnes of smaller household electricals such as cables, toasters, kettles and power tools are wrongly thrown away each year.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67830798
Title: Re: Recycling across the area....New workplace recycling measures
Post by: SteveH on March 15, 2024, 10:01:05 am
Putting food waste down the drain is about to be banned in Welsh workplaces

The measure is one of a number of new workplace recycling measures being introduced by the Welsh Government that will impact businesses, charities and public sector organisations

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/putting-food-waste-down-drain-28813429