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Title: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 10:03:57 pm
I seem to remeber that we once had some sort of vote/poll on what was the best Chippy in the area? Perhaps we could have another one - my vote would go to the Galleon in Conwy - eating chips whilst sitting on the Quay watching the world go by - perfect!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on September 03, 2010, 10:34:39 pm
I'm going to say Fish Tram Chips because they take so long you can have a beer in the King's Head while you wait. Well worth the wait though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on September 04, 2010, 09:48:27 pm
I'm going to say Fish Tram Chips because they take so long you can have a beer in the King's Head while you wait. Well worth the wait though.
;D Has anyone been to Gardners lately?
Gardners is now operated by the guy that owns Casanovas Italian Restaurant above, making a real go of it too with far longer opening hours than before.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2010, 09:12:36 pm
I seem to remeber that we once had some sort of vote/poll on what was the best Chippy in the area? Perhaps we could have another one - my vote would go to the Galleon in Conwy - eating chips whilst sitting on the Quay watching the world go by - perfect!  ;D

I will give a mention here to the Chippie at West Shore, (On Great Orme's Rd)
He opens very decent hours,  the Fish was excellent ....and his price very reasonable.

NEVER buy fish and chips at the Summit Complex ....I got stung for £8.95,  and I was paying for 3 ....so a total of £27 for fish and chips without even getting a cup of tea, bread or anything....shocking.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2010, 09:21:14 pm
I've not tried the St. George's Plaice chippy yet - has anyone?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 07, 2010, 08:05:13 am
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NEVER buy fish and chips at the Summit Complex

Interestingly, as long as I've known the place the Summit cafe has never really managed to appeal to folk. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael W on September 07, 2010, 09:49:59 pm
I've not tried the St. George's Plaice chippy yet - has anyone?
We tried the fish and chips one evening a couple of weeks ago. Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 08, 2010, 08:02:45 am
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Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.

Never had a seagull.  Were they fried or on the bone?

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2010, 08:36:23 am
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Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.

Never had a seagull.  Were they fried or on the bone?

 :D :D :D
Thats quality Ian... _))* _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 10, 2010, 08:40:53 am
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We tried the fish and chips one evening a couple of weeks ago. Took a chance on the seagulls, and sat on the front to eat them. They were very nice.

The hollow bones mean you get more weight for your money !!! :laugh: _))* :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2010, 08:45:04 am
Nemesis:  I modified your posting to make the quote work.  Somehow, you'd got both 'end' quote things, instead of a 'start' quote and an 'end' qute .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 10, 2010, 03:31:23 pm
Sorry--- thanks for that :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on September 24, 2010, 09:58:41 pm
Fat Cat Cafe Bar.

This evening we finally got round to taking up the Fat Cat manager's kind offer of a complimentary meal for two to make up for the bad experience we had a couple of months ago.

 In short this evening's meal, service and general experience were as good as last time's was bad. The fish and chips were excellent and I'm told by my wife that the ribs were especially good. Although I think we may well have been given a slightly bigger than normal portion it was too much for both of us to finish. The service was attentive without being in your face and they wouldn't even accept payment for the drinks which was a nice touch.I'll be writing to let the manager and the head office know of the all round improvement  All in all a good night out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on September 24, 2010, 10:59:58 pm
Had a superb lunch at The Empire today. It was our Pensioners' Club periodic meeting.
Many thanks to all the staff there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 25, 2010, 11:00:53 pm
The Empire is a well managed and slick operation.
I used to stay there regularly as a visitor before I had the sense to buy a house here...and save money!

I still eat in the poolside restaurant regularly, (the last time only last Thursday) ...it is amazing value at only £15.65 per head,  which includes 4 courses and 1/4 carafe of wine each.    Top notch!

As far as the Fat Cat is concerned, apart from one blip a few weeks ago when the chef let them down, the food and service there is very hard to beat.

Its a tough choice which one to eat in, so I flip between both.    (and there are a many other good value propositions in Upper Mostyn St and close by.. The Emperor,  The Rose Tor, and just round the corner ..the Asia and Valentinos are all excellent in thier own different ways.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on September 26, 2010, 03:47:59 pm
Went to the Links today for the carvery lunch, very nice and tasty, it is well run and there is no queuing for your food. The staff were very pleasant and helpful.Well worth a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2010, 07:12:32 pm
Interesting B,    *&(

Didn't know that they did a carvery at the Links,
Tell me more,  how much was it?   Whats the choice?   etc...
There are a lot of carvery's around ...and they vary quite a bit.

I've heard that non-residents can partake of the 3 course Carvery in The Grand on an evening,  for only a tenner its supposed to be very good,  anyone been?

Fest.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on September 26, 2010, 07:40:57 pm
It`s just on a Sunday Fester we bought a pint of bitter and a half of lager plus two lunches and it came to £19 odd so we reckon the meal must have been just under £8 for the one course we did`nt have a sweet (no room), The choice was Turkey Beef and Pork lovely gravy not runny like some places. Hubby had the Beef and said it just melted in the mouth it was so tender.They said they served till 5 if the food lasted out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2010, 07:45:13 pm
Mmmmm Tasty!

Did you have to choose one meat? 
I like those carveries where you get some of all the meats if you like,  and can even go back for more...
I think the Aberhod Old Hall is like that..?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on September 26, 2010, 08:25:49 pm
Fester you weren't by any chance hungry when you responded to the last couple of inputs into this thread. I've never before known any responses be delivered with saliva dripping from them!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on September 26, 2010, 08:29:30 pm
Love the motto by the way!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 27, 2010, 12:03:27 am
Oh, Mr Medz ...  surely its obvious by my postings on threads such as this, that I AM ALWAYS hungry !

Its midnight now,  I've just got in after an excellent night in the Cottage Loaf,  and Mrs Fester is away, so I am pin-balling around the kitchen looking for easy to prepare food !!

Mmmmm  FOOD  !!

Is there a Carvery open at this time?  ?{}? ?{}?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 27, 2010, 06:02:10 am
Just have to persuade Dave to join the 'rabble' and give the place a try now.  ZXZ

Don't worry Dave, the Tudno Ward is actually quite safe. Just don't go alone.  L0L

http://www.linkshotelllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.linkshotelllandudno.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2010, 08:05:47 am
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so I am pin-balling around the kitchen looking for easy to prepare food !!


 _))* _))* _))*

Astonishingly vivid imagery :-))
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 27, 2010, 07:43:03 pm
Bellringer, a few posts back you mention a lunch at the Empire for your pensioners club.  I think I am correct in saying the Chairman, maybe President, goes by the name of Mr. Trehearne. Would he be part of the Trehearne family from the Savoy in Rhyl? If he is the one, I remember him joining the staff of Barclays in the early 1960s.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on September 27, 2010, 09:32:51 pm
Bellringer,  Would he be part of the Trehearne family from the Savoy in Rhyl? If he is the one, I remember him joining the staff of Barclays in the early 1960s.

Your memory probably serves you well Mike - he is Philip Trehearn and is the Club Chairman. I know he has connections in Penrhyn Bay but now lives in mid Wales.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 27, 2010, 09:52:20 pm
Well, this is not a particularly nice way to settle the matter, but I dont suppose he is likely to read this forum. Is he extremely short in height? i.e. around 4 foot 8 or 9? If so, thats him. Not that it matters, its just to satisfy my curiousity.  Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 04, 2010, 11:02:39 am
I'll not be eating fish and chips again after hearing that  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 05, 2010, 01:04:17 am
This is a subject I posted on Oscar earlier...but I want more people to be aware.
I wasn't sure whether it belonged on this thread...whats Llandudno like right now, or policing matters!
But here goes.

Word has reached me that on Thurs night a policeman entered the Fat Cat bar and told them that they had to stop their 'but one get one free' cocktail offer which has been in force for at least 2 years to my knowledge. 
He said it was 'irresponsible' ... so the offer was pulled.

Well, how can this be??  There is no law (as I understand it) that has been passed on this, and at £6.50 per drink its hardly going to encourage binge drinking because lets face it,  its still not cheap!

I wonder if this officer is also going to call in on Cost Cutter?  Wetherspoons? and even ASDA .... you can find a whole lot of cut price booze in those places.   Of course not, these are national chains and too much like hard work.

This is a real threat to Fat Cat's business, which is a well run establishment.  It is quiet enough these days without this.

How are businesses supposed to survive when petty and ill-judged actions like this can undermine their efforts?

If I had been the bar manager that night, I would simply have noted the officers objection, and referred it to head office.
Because Fat Cat's is also part of a chain, albeit a small one.





This is a real threat to Fat Cat's business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 05, 2010, 07:31:42 am
I'm amazed that anyone pays £6.50 for one drink  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2010, 08:55:18 am
When I was in Wetherspoons the other day, I was struck by the number of people who appear to spend all day in there, there seems to be quite a large group who congregate around the large tables by the bar and Fester said that they are already in there at 9.30am when he calls in for a bacon bap. I looked at them whilst I waited to order my burger and and the phrase that popped into my head was 'living dead' - these people are merely existing, nothing more. And who is paying for all their alcohol?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 05, 2010, 09:49:24 am
Hate to say it, but probably indirectly   You Are
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cartier on December 05, 2010, 10:38:38 am
Perhaps they are B+ B owners closed for the Winter?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 05, 2010, 01:19:16 pm
When I was in Wetherspoons the other day, I was struck by the number of people who appear to spend all day in there, there seems to be quite a large group who congregate around the large tables by the bar and Fester said that they are already in there at 9.30am when he calls in for a bacon bap. I looked at them whilst I waited to order my burger and and the phrase that popped into my head was 'living dead' - these people are merely existing, nothing more. And who is paying for all their alcohol?

Whilst I like going there every so often for a meal, the thought of spending all day in there is horrifying! apart from anything else its so dark in there!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 05, 2010, 03:53:08 pm
I remember talking to a guy at the bar years ago and he was chuffed as he'd recieved a benefit rise.  Not a problem I hear you say, until I asked him why he'd had the extra money. He said he'd applied for extra benefit as he was an alcoholic!  I couldn't believe it. It appears if you can prove you are alcohol dependant you can get the tax payer to pay.  Whilst I understand that alcoholism is a serious matter, surely it would be better to provide  help to these  individuals instead of financing the alcohol which is slowly causing their demise. )*)&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 06, 2010, 10:15:24 am
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I couldn't believe it. It appears if you can prove you are alcohol dependant you can get the tax payer to pay.

It's not quite that simple. If you're receiving treatment for a debilitating condition, which might be allied to alcoholism or of which alcoholism is a component, then your level of disability might be reassessed.  However, alcoholism is personality-related, so he might well have been assessed by a psychiatrist for any one of a number of mental illnesses. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cartier on December 06, 2010, 11:15:54 am
The cafe is closed until the end of the week because the relief cook assaulted the owner and threatened others, got taken away by the bussies. :o
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2010, 03:38:10 pm
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.


Maybe he needs a bigger pot!     L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 06, 2010, 03:46:40 pm
Maybe he needs a bigger pot!     L0L
See now this post is an example of where I just wanted to put in lots of laughing smileys Yorkie, 'cos it made me laugh, however we've been asked not to by our moderators, so I'll have to write something too...................Oh I just have
 _))* _))* L0L L0L   WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 06, 2010, 04:02:13 pm
I was going to go there tomorrow for one of their Magnificent 7 meals but can't now.   I'll have to survive on more biscuits at the coffee morning instead.     :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 06, 2010, 05:45:40 pm
The cafe is closed until the end of the week because the relief cook assaulted the owner and threatened others, got taken away by the bussies. :o
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.


Which cafe is this? I hope its not Wetherspoons!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2010, 07:31:55 pm
The cafe is closed until the end of the week because the relief cook assaulted the owner and threatened others, got taken away by the bussies. :o
The owner does not seem able to cook him self.
Which cafe is this? I hope its not Wetherspoons!
No, its the customers that get assaulted in Wetherspoons, not the staff.  ;D

Orient Express is across the road from Wetherspoons, two doors down from Mr. Roberts' Newspaper Emporium.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 06, 2010, 09:18:20 pm
[No, its the customers that get assaulted in Wetherspoons, not the staff.  ;D

Orient Express is across the road from Wetherspoons, two doors down from Mr. Roberts' Newspaper Emporium.

 L0L Thanks Dave, I was getting confused with all this Wetherspoons talk on this thread  ))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 09:33:59 am
I found this news story very surprising, not to say disappointing:  :(


"CUSTOMERS fell ill with the stomach bug salmonella after eating food bought from a popular café, it was alleged yesterday.

Badgers café in Llandudno is facing five hygiene and cleanliness charges after an “outbreak” of the bug, the town’s Magistrates court heard.

Badgers, in the Victoria Shopping Centre on Mostyn Street, is accused of selling food deemed to be unfit for human consumption on or before September 26, 2009.

The food allegedly caused an illness due to “salmonella enteritidis PT14b”, the charge read yesterday said.

The case is being brought by Conwy county council council under Food Hygiene (Wales) Regulations 2004 and the Food Safety 1990 Act.

The café is also accused of failing to put in place, implement and maintain hygiene procedures, on November 17, 2009.

The same charge was put to Badgers (Llandudno) Ltd, based at the same address, on or before September 22 and September 23 this year.

The fourth hygiene act charge is that Badgers is alleged to have failed to keep its premises clean and maintained in good repair and condition.

In a fifth charge, the same company is also said to have failed to effectively clean and where necessary disinfect all articles, fittings and equipment with which food comes into contact.

Staff are said to have failed to do so often enough to “avoid risk of contamination”.

Finally Badgers (Llandudno) Ltd is accused of a sixth offence of offering for sale a natural yoghurt after its “use by” date expired.

This charge was brought under the Food Labelling Regulations Act 1996 and under the Food Safety Act 1990.

Prosecutor Stuart Dunn, of Conwy County Borough Council, told the court: “The proceedings follow an outbreak of stomach problems for a number of costumers.” He added that there was a “substantial amount” of technical evidence in the case and it was not yet ready to proceed. None of the charges have been proved. Magistrates adjourned the case until February 1, 2011."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/12/08/salmonella-at-llandudno-s-badgers-caf-made-diners-sick-55578-27785959/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/12/08/salmonella-at-llandudno-s-badgers-caf-made-diners-sick-55578-27785959/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 01:10:18 pm
Who are these costumers who were ill then?      )*)&   (Last paragraph)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 08, 2010, 03:35:54 pm
Who are these costumers who were ill then?      )*)&   (Last paragraph)
*&( _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 06:15:56 pm
No excuse for poor hygiene in Badgers.... they are right at the top end of the pricing scale... they rake it in, and its very disappointing.

Orient Express Cafe is a different story,  I have a breakfast there which was utter garbage and I vowed not to go back,  But Mrs Fester wanted to try again, and sometime later we got a lunch there... it was even worse.  Nothing I hear about that place could surprise.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 07:47:20 pm
Orient Express Cafe is a different story,  I have a breakfast there which was utter garbage and I vowed not to go back,  But Mrs Fester wanted to try again, and sometime later we got a lunch there... it was even worse.  Nothing I hear about that place could surprise.
A friend of mine has said the same.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 09:35:30 am
Fester was saying that the Cross Keys pub in Madoc Street has already closed down (it was due to close in early January). Is trading really that bad?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 10, 2010, 12:05:28 pm
  :(I would say that trade is very poor for all pubs but if you have nice food you can get bye.The wife and i went out two weeks ago on a saturday nite,we went to wethers ,Town House,Cross Keys and theKings Arms,all where quiet so if there is no trade on a Saturday nite there will be a lot more closing.The Kings Arms became very busy after eleven because loads of Motorhead fans came in from Venue Cymru Arena and so generated much needed trade,unfortunatly there are not enought gigs being put on by CCBC :rage:.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 12:28:23 pm
The Kings Head was pretty busy last night, I was surprised. Unless they were all there to see what the forum members looked like!  ;D :o 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 10, 2010, 03:16:45 pm
I drove past the Orient Express yesterday and the place was lit up but I could not see if it was open for business or not.
Hope everything is sorted out soon  for the owner as I must admit that I do enjoy the magnificent 7 breakfast that they have there. At £4.75 it includes a cup of coffee too and is good value for money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on December 10, 2010, 04:52:02 pm
This is bad news about Badgers. Don't forget that at this moment they have only been charged------they have not been found guilty. I only hope it does'ent end up like a similar situation I knew about many,many years ago. There was a very well known and respected firm of family bakers in Mold with branches in Holywell, Flint and Prestatyn name of Hulsons. An elderly man in Mold died suddenly, I think he was in his late eightys, but because he was very fit and the death was very sudden, an inquest was held. In the inquest his Son gave evidence and he said "I went to see my Father on the morning of his death and he was just enjoying eating a large pork pie which he had purchased from Hulsons in the High Street. " The Coroner immediately adjourned the inquest so that Hulsons could, if they wished, attend or seek legal advice. It was headline news in all the local papers. From that day the very successful firm started to decline. Customers left in their droves, branches were gradually closed down, and, after being in business for very many years, after about three years they went bust. At the renewed inquest it was found that the old man had died of a heart attack. That never made the papers, it was'ent news. But the damage to Hulsons reputation had been done.  Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 10, 2010, 05:02:10 pm
It may be a shame but as they say in the Forces it's a "self inflicted" injury!     :weeping:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 05:21:53 pm
Orient Express is back open today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 11, 2010, 04:48:02 pm
That's good news Dave, I'll look forward to going there asap.    D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrFalafel on December 16, 2010, 03:09:38 pm
The Mail Coach in Conwy is now open! I noticed a few people inside and pints being consumed on Monday and Tuesday evening but haven't been in myself.

Anyone been in yet?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 16, 2010, 04:31:37 pm
Not yet, but since Dave R and I popped into Coffi Conwy, I can't stay out of the place......those Paninis are top notch.  $dins$ $dins$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2010, 05:50:31 pm
Not yet, but since Dave R and I popped into Coffi Conwy, I can't stay out of the place......those Paninis are top notch.  $dins$ $dins$
Try the Bacon & Brie Panini in the coffee shop above Waterstones - It's £5 something but is great!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 16, 2010, 07:07:26 pm
Not yet, but since Dave R and I popped into Coffi Conwy, I can't stay out of the place......those Paninis are top notch.  $dins$ $dins$
Try the Bacon & Brie Panini in the coffee shop above Waterstones - It's £5 something but is great!

I intend to try the Brie and Bacon Panini...but in Coffi Conwy, tomorrow!    £3.85.   Irresitable.   $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dwyforite on December 17, 2010, 12:28:22 am
went into mail coach monday night,no draught bitter;at all no john smiths,asked the pub manager why,he said the people who were to come in had not put in a full order and then changed their mind about moving in.in from 20-00 till 20-30. on my own not a good start,i would expect that on first night you would make sure things were right.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2010, 08:12:37 am
went into mail coach monday night,no draught bitter;at all no john smiths,asked the pub manager why,he said the people who were to come in had not put in a full order and then changed their mind about moving in.in from 20-00 till 20-30. on my own not a good start,i would expect that on first night you would make sure things were right.
Yes, better to have left it for another day and made sure they were fully stocked before opening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2010, 08:49:29 pm
I want to give a special mention to The Fat Cat bar.

Last night (and again tonight) they had almost all their customers cancel their Xmas meals and parties.
I was talking to the Manager and the food wastage was colossal.   On top of that, they had drafted in lots of extra staff who, in good faith, needed to be paid.
Despite this, Fat Cat took the decision to re-imburse ALL monies taken for bookings...INCLUDING all deposits!
They are hopeful that this goodwill gesture will encourage some customers to re-book for after Xmas when trade is dire.

I wish them all the best.
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 18, 2010, 10:55:29 pm
That speaks volumes for the management of the Fat Cat especially in these difficult times.  Let's hope that the weather improves and  that they have prosperous times ahead.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on December 19, 2010, 05:53:43 am
I must admit I've never been a great fan of The Fat Cat but that is very impressive. I hope it pays off for them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2010, 09:12:03 am
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They are hopeful that this goodwill gesture will encourage some customers to re-book for after Xmas when trade is dire

It's interesting, but bad weather preventing parties arriving is one of those legal grey areas. Maenan Abbey has suffered a similar fate, and has taken the same action.

In law, you make a contract when you book a meal and - if you don't attend - you're liable for the costs incurred by the restaurant. However, the sorts of weather we've had would probably be interpreted by the courts as constituting a 'reasonable' case for being unable to fulfil your part of the contract.  Having said that, both parties involved could - if they wished - opt for cancellation insurance.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrFalafel on December 19, 2010, 09:44:45 am
Hopefully companies will reschedule their office xmas parties for January when the restaurant trade is usually extremely slow. Maybe this can work out for the better for all involved.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2010, 11:11:12 am
Insurance??

I was thinking of buying a kebab tonight......but it might be wise to invest in some cancellation insurance in case I change my mind and go for a Chinky instead.

Life is such a minefield isn't it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cartier on December 19, 2010, 12:13:56 pm
(Edited)

We had to cancel our works dinner at the Imperial, not sure what will happen with the money there.
Fair play to the businesses that have refunded the deposits.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2010, 12:30:39 pm
Cartier:  I have removed a personal reference from your posting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on December 20, 2010, 08:18:24 pm
Insurance??

I was thinking of buying a kebab tonight......but it might be wise to invest in some cancellation insurance in case I change my mind and go for a Chinky instead.

Life is such a minefield isn't it?

You should insure as "Third party fire and theft" just in case the meal after the second one isn't very good, the place catches fire, of someone nicks your kebab.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on December 20, 2010, 08:21:47 pm
Cartier:  I have removed a personal reference from your posting.

Cartier seems to be treading on thin ice at the moment.

I heard the ice on the Carlton Corner was particulary treacherous until it was gritted.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 20, 2010, 09:46:34 pm
The opposite corner was just as bad, literally covered in ice really dangerous  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrFalafel on December 23, 2010, 08:33:43 am
Popped into the Mail Coach in Conwy last night. Very dodgy clientèle and situation, IMHO. I won't be going back. Apparently the guy running it now is just temporary.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on December 26, 2010, 04:46:04 pm
Cross Keys on Madoc Street has re-opened under new management.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on December 27, 2010, 03:41:52 pm
I wish them all the luck in the world Jack, but I have to wonder just how long they will last.
If a good Landlord like Graham couldn't make it work there's not much hope for the newbees. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on December 27, 2010, 04:01:52 pm
I wish them luck too. The Cross was the first pub I ever went to (at the age of about 5/6yrs - it was in the blackout anyway) and was a favourite until it got gentrified. It was once a Llandudno intellectual institution with the "brains trust" of Dick Lewis, Biffo et al holding forth all afternoon and into the evening.  ££$ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2010, 04:07:41 pm
Isn't it the lads from the Townhouse that have taken it on?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on December 27, 2010, 04:45:41 pm
Isn't it the lads from the Townhouse that have taken it on?

I have been told that too :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on December 27, 2010, 04:48:02 pm
yes i was told it was them too. i wish them all the luck they deserve. :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on January 08, 2011, 12:40:03 pm
I went in New Years Eve very busy and they have Peronni on draft, anyone tried the food yet?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 11, 2011, 10:10:38 pm
Not been enough reviews on here for a while.... but its time for a new one.

Tonight, Mr and Mrs Fester decided to pop in for a meal in a place we have been before, and beore it was OK... .... but NOW there has been a big change.

We were drawn to a poster in the window of PARS RESTAURANT.     ''Eat all you can buffet .... £11.50''
My first reaction, was OK, might be worth a try .... but we didn't expect much for £11.50

It is not a curry house, it is not an Indian.... it is Iranian / Persian cuisine.... and I must say, its absolutely 1st class.
Surely It won't last ... offers as good as this never do, in my experience.  ¢¢## ¢¢##

In a nutshell, you CANNOT eat better than this for that price.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$

There is a buffet of silver salvers and servers, and as you lift off each lid, the different starters and main courses tempt you with their superb spices, but the quality of the meat and ingredients is obvious to the eye.
When it says Lamb Tagine, it means LAMB.   Too often restaurants are tempted to substitute beef for lamb... but not at PARS.
There are several Lamb dishes, numerous chicken dishes, rices, vegetarian options etc....  and each one is excellent.
The owner came out to speak with us after our meal, and he is planning to add a fish course too!
A very nice guy who has owned businesses in Llandudno for many, many years...

We eat out very often in Llandudno, and often find good value ... but now it will be hard to avoid making this our preferred choice.

Basically,  I can't fault it.
I have visited and worked in India, and although this is Persian, I know that this food is way above what I have eaten in this or other countries.
Good luck to them .... I can see then being incredibly busy, too busy for me to get a table, very soon.

For £11.50, eat all you want .... how can you go wrong?   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on February 11, 2011, 10:21:30 pm
Where is it mate ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 11, 2011, 10:24:51 pm
Upper Mostyn Street, one down from Fat Cat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on February 11, 2011, 10:29:28 pm
Cheers Dave, I don't know town that well. :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 11, 2011, 10:42:07 pm
You’re quite right Fester. its on my recommended list to our guests. If you really enjoyed your meal be a friend and give them a five star write up on TripAdvisor. When you see some of the other places in the town that have got higher placing you realise there is no natural justice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 11, 2011, 11:03:37 pm
flippin eck fester my mouth was watering just reading that i,ll have to give that place a go ,we enjoy candles always lovely food and great service
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 11, 2011, 11:33:30 pm
If you like your food spicy,  and you are a carnivore like me .... you can't go wrong.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 12, 2011, 12:00:24 am
It sounds great and we must give it a try.

I wonder if there are already new owners in place or the maybe the present owner is trying to boost his turnover to help encourage a sale.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=142&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=142&o=1)

Either way, it certainly looks good value-for-money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on February 12, 2011, 12:02:05 am
Nice write up, sounds good, cheap and different to the norm, must try it.
Is it licensed?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 12, 2011, 12:13:38 am
Sure is.... we washed it down with a neat little bottle of house white,   Z** Z** Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on February 12, 2011, 12:49:49 am
In a nutshell, you CANNOT eat better than this for that price.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$

Probably why it's so cheap.

You can't fit much food in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on March 04, 2011, 09:06:45 pm
Maybe worth checking out this website, makes for interesting reading!
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 10:03:42 pm
Maybe worth checking out this website, makes for interesting reading!
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)
Very interesting reading!

Just glad the Fat Cat got a 4, I eat there all the time.

You have to laugh, the Groes Inn in Tyn Y Groes got 1/5...and the prices they charge!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 05, 2011, 12:20:31 am
The Groes Inn has a great reputation, but is very over-rated.

I was eager to try it (because of the aura that surronds it) .... but it was very basic, and over priced Pub Fodder.

Gammon Steak,  Steak and Ale Pie,  Lasagne etc....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 05, 2011, 05:21:54 am
The Groes Inn has a great reputation, but is very over-rated.I was eager to try it (because of the aura that surronds it)

There was fog surrounding it last time I was there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 05, 2011, 07:55:19 am
Thanks, Suepp;  I'll add it to our useful links page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2011, 02:08:32 pm
How NOT to drink a can of Coke
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2011, 03:52:16 pm
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street is currently closed whilst new owners refurbish it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 14, 2011, 11:07:26 am
That's two properties in the same area, as they have the chemists on Hooson's Corner which is in a terrible state of repair now. Goodness only knows what it will be like outside when it closes next month.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on March 14, 2011, 07:59:29 pm
A new website by the food standards agency, rates food establishments from 0 (worst) to 5 (best)
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 14, 2011, 08:05:05 pm
A new website by the food standards agency, rates food establishments from 0 (worst) to 5 (best)
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/QuickSearch.aspx?q=conwy&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d)


Bracketing The Jenivore and Barnacles Chippie together is a bit of a worry isn't it !   :o :o :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 15, 2011, 07:49:41 am
Quote
A new website by the food standards agency, rates food establishments from 0 (worst) to 5 (best)

dwsi: this has been on our links page for some time...

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325.0)


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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2011, 08:50:31 am
Alexandra Pub shut down!

LICENSING officials meet next week to discuss the future of a hotel after a weekend of disorder. There were several incidents inside and outside The Alexandra Hotel in Clonmel Street, Llandudno on Friday, February 25 and Saturday, February 26 this year.

Within days, North Wales Police secured an order to close the premises pending a fast track review of its licence on Wednesday, March 23 at 9.30am.

Conwy County Borough Council’s licensing sub committee will meet at Llandudno Town Hall to consider a police request for an “expedited” or (speeded up) review of the premises. One person was arrested for affray and drug related offences on February 26. The following day seven more people were arrested with more arrests planned. Police acted to uphold conditions of the licence including to prevent crime and disorder.

At the Alexandra Hotel, a Conwy County Borough Council sign was put up stating: “In the opinion of a senior police officer the premises are associated with serious crime and serious disorder.” Inspector Ian Verburg, of North Wales Police, said yesterday: “We acted very swiftly to uphold the licensing objectives to prevent crime and disorder.”

The holder of the premises licence, Oxford Hotels & Inns Management Ltd, of City Road, London, said: “We never comment on things like this.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/19/police-demand-licence-review-at-llandudno-s-alexandra-hotel-55578-28363625/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/19/police-demand-licence-review-at-llandudno-s-alexandra-hotel-55578-28363625/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on March 19, 2011, 12:17:48 pm
From what I've been told.  Two women from Anglesey took it over.  They had a party and it was their guests who kicked off not locals.  One party goer having been slashed across the neck with a broken glass (not sure if that's just hear say mind)I wonder if they'll get their deposit back?  Under those circumstances I'm not sure.
The Pub-co is also to blame here .  The pub is dark and dingey inside, refurbishment is down to the Pub-co..  The Alex has a lot of rooms but due to fire regs they can't let them as the fire escape needs replacing, again down to the Pub-co.  The kitchen does not meet health and hygiene standard either.  So basically it's dead in the water.
Can you imagine what the business rates etc are on a building that size in that location! 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on March 19, 2011, 02:51:35 pm
From what I've been told.  Two women from Anglesey took it over.  They had a party and it was their guests who kicked off not locals.  One party goer having been slashed across the neck with a broken glass (not sure if that's just hear say mind)I wonder if they'll get their deposit back?  Under those circumstances I'm not sure.
The Pub-co is also to blame here .  The pub is dark and dingey inside, refurbishment is down to the Pub-co..  The Alex has a lot of rooms but due to fire regs they can't let them as the fire escape needs replacing, again down to the Pub-co.  The kitchen does not meet health and hygiene standard either.  So basically it's dead in the water.
Can you imagine what the business rates etc are on a building that size in that location! 

Pen, I heard exactly the same from a lady who was working the bar that night. She also said that the visitors then went down to The King's arms and some trouble there caused the police to close that down for the night aswell.

The lady I spoke to also suggested that the licensing problems might be caused by the fact that Jimmy's name is still "above the door" but you'll understand the implications of that better than I.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 19, 2011, 08:01:12 pm
I wonder why nice Mr Policeman didn't arrest a few and plaster a few posters about the town with their mugshots!    Another, different, sort of bug the town seems to have!     ZXZ   Z**   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2011, 08:06:08 pm
Can you imagine what the business rates etc are on a building that size in that location! 
No need to imagine but I suspect you will be surprised. Business rates payable in 2010 were £8,793.50.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 03:29:04 pm
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 03:31:27 pm
Paid a visit to the Corner Cafe in Rhos on Sea this afternoon. Good quality Illy coffee (always a good sign) and the food was a basic cafe menu but very well done. It's on the corner (funnily enough) across the road from HSBC. Worth a visit, I think.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 04:49:47 pm
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.

Is the Greenery cafe/restaurant still nearby?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 04:59:14 pm
It would appear that Aldi are planning on closing their Llandudno store, as it is shown as being available to let. Rental is £245,000 per year:

http://www.lambandswift.com/PropertySheet.aspx?id=119 (http://www.lambandswift.com/PropertySheet.aspx?id=119)

Wow, seems a lot. Makes me wonder how Superbowl manae to stay in business. The place is always empty midweek and isn't exactly heaving on the weekends anymore either

Do they still have the Polish Entrance?

I popped to McDonalds on Mostyn Champneys Retail Park in Llandudno earlier, and as I drove out, noticed that Llandudno Superbowl has apparently taken the decision to travel back in time towards the days of racial segregation by employing a separate entrance for Poles:

http://www.garysmith.org.uk/blog/index.php/blog/show/Casual-racism-is-alive-and-well-at-Llandudno-Superbowl.html (http://www.garysmith.org.uk/blog/index.php/blog/show/Casual-racism-is-alive-and-well-at-Llandudno-Superbowl.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 05:03:54 pm
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.
Is the Greenery cafe/restaurant still nearby?
Yes, was in there the other week. Could do with a revamp, in my view.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:12:53 pm
The Nineteen cafe in Lloyd Street has now reopened as the 'Top Table Cafe & Restaurant' and will be run by Ian & Lorna Roberts. Best of luck to them with their new venture.
Is the Greenery cafe/restaurant still nearby?
Yes, was in there the other week. Could do with a revamp, in my view.

Yes, it's had the same decor for years. Ninteen may prove to be stiff competition for them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 20, 2011, 10:58:20 pm
I've heard that Aldi is NOT now closing... nor moving.

Anyone know for sure?  (I like Aldi)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on March 21, 2011, 12:13:05 am
I hope your rumour is correct, Aldi is OK, great to whizz around when you only want a few basic items that would take you an age to get at Asda.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2011, 08:08:23 am
So Aldi say they're not closing or moving....but their store is available for rent. Draw your own conclusions.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 21, 2011, 11:09:22 am
Saw this review of the Alex on Tripadvisor:

This has to be one of the most depressing places in Llandundno,booked 3 single rooms, on arrival told no singles but could have a family room and a double, person in charge sorted keys, and then said rooms were on the 5th floor but no lift hallways dark (lights did not come on til almost at the top, doors to rooms did not close , one push and the door would have been open, felt very wary, Family room: lamp not working, TV not working, the beds were a disgrace only lay on them to test and could feel all springs, so uncomfortable, very poor condition and a poky room

Double room: next floor up, door still not shutting again one push and would have been open, TV one channel only , remote not working, had a freeview box (not working) remote no batteries, when tried to hang coat in wardrobe the bar fell off a cheap melamine wardrobe that had seen better days, again a poky room for a double, bed had more humps than a camel disgusting .quilt cover ripped, carpet stained very sad state of decor.

went out to get cash to pay as they would not accept card payment, (thank god for small mercies)on returning to hotel at 1.30 after a night out the place was in total darkness and we could not get in, key would not open the door as the door had been locked from inside, no staff on premises,found phone number in a window 3 floors up , to ask for them to open and let us in,

person in charge was in a pub and said he would be there in 5 mins or so, even he could not get in and had to go round the back and climb in through a window, once again lights did not come on up the stairs, so we packed up and left at 2. 30 am and we slept in the car as we felt unsafe inside this nightmare of a hotel.

I am only thankfull that at least we had not paid, and as we did not spend the night there will not be paying


http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d1656712-r73307767-The_Alexandra_Hotel-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS#CHECK_RATES_CONT (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d1656712-r73307767-The_Alexandra_Hotel-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS#CHECK_RATES_CONT)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on March 21, 2011, 01:54:49 pm
in a town full of B&B's and Hotels that seems more like carelessness than bad luck  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on March 21, 2011, 02:23:11 pm
Hasthe newsagents opposite the North Western hotel in Vaughan Street closed down?  The buildingh is covered with scaffolding and it was closed yesterday, Sunday.
Also there seems to be building stuff in the old information office in Chapel Street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on March 22, 2011, 10:16:30 pm
Seems Llandudno is finally going to get an Antique shop (next to Kindways @ 6 Trinity Avenue)
bet it ends up just being a junk shop
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 23, 2011, 08:15:10 am
Hasn’t there been an antique shop in Vaughan Street near the Imperial Hotel for many years ?


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 23, 2011, 09:16:58 am
You're right Bri, it's been there for years (at least 50 that I can remember )      I think that their name was Lee and Jas' brother Bryan married the daughter of the owner.
Jas said that her brother in law has taken over the business from his parents.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2011, 09:33:35 am
I bought our Silver cutlery from there almost 40 years ago when we were up visiting my in-laws.  There was also an antique shop in Madoc Street where the Round Table shop is and also one at West Shore.   Most of the antique Business has moved to Deganwy with a new one due to open where the cafe was and also the Junction with Collinge's place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 23, 2011, 04:30:56 pm
also the Junction with Collinge's place.

http://www.collingeantiques.com/ (http://www.collingeantiques.com/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on March 23, 2011, 05:28:15 pm
Hasn’t there been an antique shop in Vaughan Street near the Imperial Hotel for many years ?
An antique antique shop, not exactly the high class place I'd have envisaged  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: brumbob on March 23, 2011, 05:29:51 pm
also the Junction with Collinge's place.

http://www.collingeantiques.com/ (http://www.collingeantiques.com/)
Thanks for the link Steve, I'll be checking this place out  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2011, 06:53:31 pm
Collinge has some nice stuff in his shop, you can easily spend an hour looking through it all.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 23, 2011, 07:35:55 pm
Dave, really, never mind spending an hour looking around, how about five minutes putting your hand in your stitched pocket? LOL
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 09:23:29 am
"A “WILD WEST” pub brawl that left a man needing 26 stitches caused the closure of a seaside hotel.

The fracas at The Alexandra Hotel in Clonmel Street, Llandudno, involved 20 people, and led to the police shutting down the premises.

Yesterday Conwy’s licensing sub committee met at Llandudno Town Hall to review the licence and heard they had no door staff on the night of the brawl and that it followed another “violent incident” outside the pub the evening before.

They ruled it should remain closed."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/24/wild-west-brawl-at-llandudno-hotel-55578-28393151/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/24/wild-west-brawl-at-llandudno-hotel-55578-28393151/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 03:42:49 pm
Inspector Ian Verburg, of North Wales Police, said later: “The reason it was so serious was bad management. Door supervisors would have stopped it descending into something like from the Wild West and stopped someone needing 26 stitches.”

How does he know this for sure?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 24, 2011, 05:06:36 pm
Because he has a pointy hat coverying his pointy head wherein he has some pointyless brains. $walesflag$

Only joking!      :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 09:36:18 pm
Because he has a pointy hat coverying his pointy head wherein he has some pointyless brains. $walesflag$

Only joking!      :P

I thought Inspectors have flat caps?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:29:10 pm
Had lunch in the Top Table cafe and restaurant (the old Nineteen opposite the Town Hall in Llandudno) today. It was almost full and the service seemed a little slow as a result (they are probably still finding their feet as well). However, the food and drink was good and the staff were friendly. Prices about average. Certainly worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 31, 2011, 09:15:45 pm
Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 11:18:45 am
This morning I was sat in the lounge waiting for my wife to summon me in for breakfast, but then I heard an almighty CRASH...

I dashed into the kitchen,  and she had collapsed on the floor.... I went into a blind panic!

But then I remembered...Wetherspoons do an all-day breakfast.   Phew! $dins$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2011, 11:20:33 am
You rotten beggar !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on April 01, 2011, 05:20:57 pm
Went for a walk round Conwy last night and decided to get some  chips, we were just about to give up and go to the Junction when we spotted the Archway chippy was open, went in and had a sit down meal, very reasonable, extensive menu, lovely  fish n chips and lovely surroundings.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 08:45:15 pm
I won't reveal the name of the Llandudno pub that charges £2.75 for a Latte!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 08:51:26 pm
Eh?  We had a coffee in the Venue Cymru.... then you went to Cafe Culture... and then you obviously went elsewhere.

Just how many coffee shops can you patronise in one day man?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 09:03:11 pm
Eh?  We had a coffee in the Venue Cymru.... then you went to Cafe Culture... and then you obviously went elsewhere.

Just how many coffee shops can you patronise in one day man?
Didnt go in Cafe Culture, just had a chat with a local businessman outside.  ;) The photo is actually from last night....  ?{}?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 09:14:03 pm
I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 01, 2011, 09:15:53 pm
The Lilly comes to mind.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 09:21:01 pm
I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
You were with me when I took this photo....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2011, 10:10:16 pm
 :o £2.75 and they say 'with a hint of coffee flavouring' so it's mainly milk then, good profit margins there!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:20:23 am
Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$

March 31.....Thursday? It's Ladies night on Thursday's.  ???

http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx (http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:22:38 am
I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
You were with me when I took this photo....

My money is on the Fat Cat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:24:40 am
Didnt go in Cafe Culture, just had a chat with a local businessman outside.  ;)

Are you on the payroll yet?  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 08:14:35 am
Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$
It's Ladies night on Thursday's.  ???
Think about it, Trojan, think about it....  :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 08:16:17 am
I see (nudge, nudge).
One thing I know for sure is that you didn't pay £2.75 for a coffee anywhere last night.... ZXZ ZXZ  ... in fact I'm sure you never would!
You were with me when I took this photo....

My money is on the Fat Cat.
Not the Feline Giganticus. It was actually the Queen Vic. :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 08:18:18 am
Didnt go in Cafe Culture, just had a chat with a local businessman outside.  ;)

Are you on the payroll yet?  ;D
Couldn't afford me, mate...  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 05:06:31 pm
I see the Alexandra pub in Llandudno now has 'Pub To Let' signs in its windows.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 03, 2011, 07:14:14 pm
Fester and I had an excellent meal in the Fat Cat this evening, the food in there is now very good.  $drink1$

March 31.....Thursday? It's Ladies night on Thursday's.  ???

http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx (http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/content/Llandudno.aspx)

Err.. exactly....can you think of a better night to go??  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 03, 2011, 07:16:23 pm
What about men in kilts?       $wales
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2011, 07:40:06 pm
Fester and I are at the Charity Welsh Night at the Fat Cat - food is fantastic!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:11:18 pm
 :) I see there is another new restaurant opposite the Queen Vic to be called Hugo;s and at last it looks like the old Howard hotel is about to open after god knows how many years of restoration,to be called the Iris hotel ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on April 06, 2011, 09:14:28 pm
If anyone is on Upper Mostyn Street and struggling to find a bite to eat, don't panic, there is a branch of Toppolino's opening next to Buttercup!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2011, 09:19:10 pm
If anyone is on Upper Mostyn Street and struggling to find a bite to eat, don't panic, there is a branch of Toppolino's opening next to Buttercup!
It looks hideous - the side of the building is covered in massive pictures of pizzas. Did they get Planning permission for this in a Conservation Area?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 07, 2011, 12:10:35 am
Its a disgrace and an eyesore... this is NOT what Llandudno needs in that area.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 07, 2011, 12:58:44 am
and at last it looks like the old Howard hotel is about to open after god knows how many years of restoration,to be called the Iris hotel ZXZ

That's a real eye-opener.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2011, 06:01:02 pm
 Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 07, 2011, 10:16:11 pm
Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D

I'll try.  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 08, 2011, 08:29:56 am
Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D

I'll try.  :-X

Just remember that there are experts on the Forum who can give you support and Councelling if you feel that you need support and are unable to disipline yourself!    L0L   L0L     L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 08, 2011, 05:25:59 pm
Trogan can you try and be serious ,just once. :twoface: ;D

I'll try.  :-X

Just remember that there are experts on the Forum who can give you support and Councelling if you feel that you need support and are unable to disipline yourself!    L0L   L0L     L0L

It's okay, I've just had a few drinks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on April 10, 2011, 12:40:07 pm
Is there a reason why the end of the pier cafe only sells paper cups of tea coffee and hot chocolate, bottled drinks  and prepackaged cakes and biscuits, Seems a waste of a prime spot to me
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 04:55:43 pm
Is there a reason why the end of the pier cafe only sells paper cups of tea coffee and hot chocolate, bottled drinks  and prepackaged cakes and biscuits, Seems a waste of a prime spot to me
Lack of ambition!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 07:05:41 pm
The most excellent Fat Cat Cafe Bar is closed until Thursday for refurbishment. Where will Fester eat his Stir Fry now?  :laugh:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5268/5585682167_189a81f0fd_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5585682167/)
Fat Cat Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5585682167/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: CurlyCap on April 14, 2011, 09:58:54 am
Can anyone advise me of Child Friendly Pubs, Cafe's, etc, in the Llandudno or surrounding area?
 (I've attempted to look back through old posts to see if this has been discussed before but my connection is so slow at the minute )

When we have friends visiting, we regularly go to the one attached to the Premier Inn, on the Roundabout off the A55 (Llandudno exit), it has a separate play area that the children love but are there any others close by?

We've noticed that many of the cafe bars, pubs, hotels, etc in Llandudno don't really advertise Children's menu's or state clearly that Children are welcome. (This is fair enough as I'm sure many adults without kids prefer to have a bite to eat without noisy children spoiling their evening) there just doesn't seem to be anywhere obvious in Llandudno town centre that is cheap and cheerful for the kids but pleasant enough to keep us adults entertained with a nice snack or meal too.

Any suggestions........
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2011, 11:45:17 am
Craigside ? Same chain, but a bit nearer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Orme Vixen on April 14, 2011, 12:00:54 pm
What about The Orme Complex if it's daytime?     :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2011, 01:06:37 pm
Do they sell good Yorkshires?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Orme Vixen on April 14, 2011, 01:26:38 pm
I'm the wrong person to ask, hate that northern excuse for a pudding.   L0L   Only ever had a snack up the Orme but that was OK.    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2011, 02:50:00 pm
By Gum--you must be flush !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Orme Vixen on April 14, 2011, 04:21:48 pm
Not flush.  Wasn't me who paid the bill, and it was some time ago.    :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2011, 09:44:57 pm
The Fat Cat Cafe Bar will be reopening at 5pm tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2011, 09:47:06 pm
The Fat Cat Cafe Bar will be reopening at 5pm tomorrow.

Excellent !   I shall see you there at 5.01pm   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2011, 03:55:05 pm
I tried the Poolside Bar Restaurant at the Empire last night and it was really good.   A delicious 3 course meal including coffee and a large glass of wine for £16.05        $good$
It won't be long before I go back there again.      
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 17, 2011, 10:18:12 pm
Hugo,
I must agree with you, The Empire Poolside represents the very best in value for such good quality food.

Each time we are visited by family, they are disappointed if we don't book at least one evening for them at the Poolside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2011, 08:14:20 pm
The Gresham Pub on Upper Mostyn Street will have new owners at the end of this week; I believe Club 147 are taking it over.  ££$

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2535/4115032757_7f1755a823.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4115032757/)
Anyone for Guinness? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4115032757/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 26, 2011, 09:36:39 pm
That information was Copyrighted !  :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 27, 2011, 03:08:20 am
Club 147? Come on.......give me a break.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 27, 2011, 09:07:22 pm
  :) I have been to La Taverna now about 7 times and must admit it has been first class everytime. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on April 28, 2011, 05:38:28 am
 :) I have been to La Taverna now about 7 times and must admit it has been first class everytime. D)

Certainly looks authentic:

http://www.latavernarestaurant.co.uk/ (http://www.latavernarestaurant.co.uk/)

We are located in a Llandundo by a promenade and pier.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 08:25:02 am
We are located in a Llandundo by a promenade and pier.
That certainly narrows it down a bit...  :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 28, 2011, 10:24:46 am
Yeah, but if you say it in an Italian accent ...   it works!

Wassa matter you?  Gotta no respect?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 03, 2011, 06:10:45 pm
After a pleasant walk to Cadair Ifan Goch we stopped at Plas Maenan for an afternoon coffee. We sat on the glass covered verandah in very relaxing surroundings and looked at the breathtaking views of the Carneddau range across the valley.
A delightful tasting coffee,enough for 2 cups each and with cream and a shortbread biscuit was well worth the £4.50.   We were there over an hour and the ambience made you feel like you could stay there for a lot longer but we had to leave ( shops closing soon! )
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 03, 2011, 07:47:46 pm
  $cool$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: CurlyCap on May 05, 2011, 07:06:25 pm
Brilliant photos Hugo, they look like they could have been taken in the Caribean with the gorgeous blue sky !

Quick change of subject (but still on pubs, etc.....) as we had friends over for the busy weekend, we ventured into Llandudno for a rare night out. I hadn't had much response to an earlier post on places where we could take the children (and still feel comfortable), so we managed to grab babysitters for the evening and hit the town! (Good enough excuse to leave the monkeys at home !)

It was great working our way down Upper Mostyn Street, visiting the Fat Cat, Fountains, etc, etc...(all the places I'd heard discussed on here) However, I was really disappointed to find that there were very few places that we could get a good meal late on. At around 9.30pm, we tried a few restaurants but were told that they'd finished serving (although there were clearly loads of free tables). Is this the norm or could it have been that they'd been exceptionally busy and were happy to finish earlier?

We did end up having a gorgeous Indian Meal but I'd be interested to know of any other nice eateries that stay open late for the disorganised that don't book !  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 08:42:04 pm
I know Fat Cat usually serve food until about 10?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2011, 08:52:49 pm
Hiya CC, 
Did you decide not to bother with The Lilly?  Where I think the kids would have been more than welcome... but a little bored if they were forced to be inside.

You are right about the watershed for eating in Llandudno.
I constantly get thwarted when deciding after 8.30 to go for a meal.
The Seahorse and other good restaurants usually make 8.30pm the last booking time.  (But you do get a long, leisurely meal that way)
The Empire can be booked right up to 9pm, but no later.
Valentino's, I have seen people arriving for meals even up until 10pm ish.
The Asia, you can still get a table in there up until 10.30-ish.

The Fat Cat are more of an up market pub menu, as Dave says you can eat up to 10pm ish,  and when it's on form its very good... last night though, sadly it was not.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 09:04:02 pm
Hiya CC,  The Fat Cat are more of an up market pub menu, as Dave says you can eat up to 10pm ish,  and when it's on form its very good... last night though, sadly it was not.
Looks as though I made a good decision to have my lunch rather than dinner there, then!  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2011, 09:24:03 pm
I am led to understand that they are having problems with one particular chef at the moment... it needs sorting.

But, 95% of the time, the food is most excellent (as you well know)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: CurlyCap on May 05, 2011, 09:34:30 pm
Yes, Fester, we did get to the Lilly in the afternoon, where Mr. CC had the best hot and spicy burger he'd ever tasted, (although he was starving when we eventually arrived at West Shore, as we'd been climbing the Orme all day and he'd have eaten a scabby dog at that point.)

The children enjoyed playing on the swings opposite and we sat outside in the sunshine with one eye on them and one hand on our drinks as the wind was unbelievable!

The food was very good though so cheers for the recommendation !  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2011, 09:37:43 pm
For once in my life....FEST KNOWS BEST !   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2011, 09:55:50 pm
For once in my life....FEST KNOWS BEST !   ZXZ
How true.....  :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 05, 2011, 11:21:33 pm
I am led to understand that they are having problems with one particular chef at the moment... it needs sorting.

But, 95% of the time, the food is most excellent (as you well know)

Mrs R went to Fat Cat tonight and thoroughly enjoyed her evening.

She very much enjoyed the set £11.95 menu with a cocktail and said the portions were enormous.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 09, 2011, 08:11:26 pm
 :) The Alexandra pub is reopening but not as a pub,someone is going to run it as a hotel and restaurant,so good luck to them and i hope they make a success of it. ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 09, 2011, 08:16:31 pm
I was under the impression that without a new fire escape the majority of the rooms can't be used.  They must be investing quite a hefty sum, I hope it does well too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on May 10, 2011, 12:28:42 am
Where are all the local 'characters' going to drink now? Where's Martin Leary going to host his Karaoke?

RIP Alexandra.  :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 10, 2011, 08:37:27 am
Thats the guy who has his ''show'' in The Carlton these days....?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on May 10, 2011, 06:33:32 pm
Thats the guy who has his ''show'' in The Carlton these days....?

Not sure Fester, I have not been in there in ages. He normally has a suntan and wears sleeveless T-shirts.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2011, 10:24:56 pm
I understand that one of Conwy's most best known restaurants, the Clemence, is up for sale.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/5212033653_d7393f8fa5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5212033653/)
The Clemence (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5212033653/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 10, 2011, 11:34:23 pm
I have to be honest they do the best cooked breakfast in Conwy.  It's falling to bits inside though.  Many a time we've been in and there has been buckets on tables due to burst pipes.  The decoration is really poor with peeling wallpaper and tired and tatty furnishings.  Although I'm not put off going in there I can see why others would be. The Clemence is to restaurants what the prawn cocktail, sirloin steak and black forest is to fine dining, stuck quite firmly in the 1980s. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 11, 2011, 12:06:12 am
Yes... I once got sucked in to The Clemence by a sign saying 3 Courses for £4.99

I left an hour or so later thinking,  yep, I got about £4.99's worth..... reminiscent of school dinners.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 07:20:25 am
I agree, I've never been in. Great location, though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 11, 2011, 10:24:07 am
How much is it up for Dave?  Your right it is a great location.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 10:37:36 am
It's £70k for the goodwill/fittings of the business and then £25k a year rent. Good opportunity for someone.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 11, 2011, 10:42:32 am
That's pretty good.  It's quite large inside I would guess on probably 100 covers? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 11:22:34 am
That's pretty good.  It's quite large inside I would guess on probably 100 covers? 
Restaurant area is 72' x 30', so pretty large.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2011, 11:24:09 am
Dominos Pizza are intending to open a branch in Llandudno and are actively looking for premises.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 11, 2011, 04:19:37 pm
Dominos Pizza are intending to open a branch in Llandudno and are actively looking for premises.

Grrrrrrr8 News. Though not for the belly!!! Will have to hit the gym twice as hard when that happens
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2011, 10:35:32 pm
 WWW Well there are plenty of premises too choose from. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 12, 2011, 12:55:19 am
I don't care where it is... because they deliver!

The Domino's New York BBQ Steak pizza will be coming to my house !! $dins$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on May 21, 2011, 03:15:10 am
The Alex on Clonmel St. was open tonight as a Restaurant/Hotel. I didn't see anyone in there but good luck to them. I'm sure I'll give it a try soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 21, 2011, 09:16:56 am
 :) Yes Paddy its good luck too the Alex;s it was a good venue when a Mr Bradlry had it many years ago.Unfortunatly i think its the first of a few pubs we are going too lose,i really have no idea how its taken this long to lose our first pub,there is no way they can keep going with the amount of people who have turned their back on Pubs.I have been in a pub on a saturday nite with a band playing ,door men and a handfull of punters,i have no idea how they make it pay besides doing food during the day. :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 21, 2011, 03:41:15 pm
I've just been to the Glass Lounge in Colwyn Bay for coffee and cake. It's in the old Speakers Corner building at the top of Penrhyn Road. Fortunately, they seem to have lost the somewhat half hearted approach to serving customers that Speakers Corner always used to have and are now much improved. It's all being decorated, new furniture, new menu. Food and drink are great and reasonably priced. Well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on May 22, 2011, 03:56:56 am
:) Yes Paddy its good luck too the Alex;s it was a good venue when a Mr Bradlry had it many years ago.Unfortunatly i think its the first of a few pubs we are going too lose,i really have no idea how its taken this long to lose our first pub,there is no way they can keep going with the amount of people who have turned their back on Pubs.I have been in a pub on a saturday nite with a band playing ,door men and a handfull of punters,i have no idea how they make it pay besides doing food during the day. :-X

I remember Mr Bradley from the golf club but he'd left the Alex before I began my drinking career. He's a very nice man and we shared many a pint in the "golfie".

I think the reason pubs struggle these days is the prices they are "forced" to charge. You can pay £5 for a large vodka in a pub or you can buy the bottle (14 large ones) for less than £9 in Asda. It's a "no brainer" for the punters. Share a bottle at home and go out later.

Having said that, it's interesting that the pubs that do seem to do well are not necessarily the cheapest so maybe price is not the only consideration.

Over to you guys!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 08:56:59 am
Having said that, it's interesting that the pubs that do seem to do well are not necessarily the cheapest so maybe price is not the only consideration.
Some good points, Paddy. Key phrase is 'seem to do well' - appearances can be deceptive!  It would be unfair to name any business but I know one seemingly busy bar in Llandudno that is struggling and one never busy bar that seems to cling on.

Who's going to do the Taste Test in the Alex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2011, 11:36:03 am
 ;) I nominate Yorkie ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 24, 2011, 04:32:02 pm
 ;) Heard rumours again about Wethers becoming a Yates and something happening in Fountains,any news. 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 05:34:16 pm
;) Heard rumours again about Wethers becoming a Yates and something happening in Fountains,any news. 8)
Wetherspoons is a different chain to Yates, there is no way they would sell such a busy pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 24, 2011, 05:49:11 pm
There has been talk of the Carlton changing over to Yates.  How true it is I don't know?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 06:07:28 pm
The Carlton is owned by Mitchells & Butlers Leisure Retail Limited, how willing they would be to sell to Yates, I don't know? The Carlton always reminds me of the pub in Newcastle that Michael Caine walked into in Get Carter... Great location but I don't think they're making the most of it, by any means.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 06:15:30 pm
The owners of Aberhod Old Hall Restaurant in Rhos On Sea are seeking Planning permission to convert into into 4 apartments and build 2 new houses in the grounds:

Aberhod Old Hall Cayley Promenade Rhos On Sea Colwyn Bay Conwy LL28 4EP
Proposal: "Proposed demolition of extensions to existing building and conversion and extension of
existing building into 4 no. dwellings and erection of 2 no. dwellings, improvements to
access and associated works"

I'm not too thrilled about this, Aberhod is one of the oldest buildings in Rhos and this sounds like over development to me, not to mention the loss of a business.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/3225360204_59a3d03c85_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3225360204/)
Aberhod (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3225360204/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 25, 2011, 12:43:59 pm
I agree. Of course it is public knowledge that the catering side had a nasty jolt after the public health inspectors called. News like that can see off years of having a good reputation.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2011, 12:53:42 pm
Indeed. I've always thought it would make a great food orientated pub, in the same vein as the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 30, 2011, 08:28:30 am
 ;) The new take-away in Upper Mostyn St is about to open,Kings House i think its called. Looking at the signage it looks cheap and nasty hope im wrong but at least its one less empty shop. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 09:42:39 pm
The Parade Pub on Church Walks has finally shut down. Mick is concentrating on Cooneys and a pub in Rhyl.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 09:46:10 pm
;) The new take-away in Upper Mostyn St is about to open,Kings House i think its called. Looking at the signage it looks cheap and nasty hope im wrong but at least its one less empty shop. ££$
It's a big disappointment, especially in a Conservation Area - very garish:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on May 30, 2011, 09:51:29 pm
Anyone know what happened to young Rob Skelley. His parents Bob and Eunice were good friends of my Father and I got to know him in his own right. I last saw him a few years back when he was cheffing in the Kings Head. He was talking about setting up an eatery in mid Shrophire at the time. Did he anyone?  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 09:56:36 pm
Is it his Dad who has the Rhos Fynach in Rhos On Sea?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on May 30, 2011, 10:01:38 pm
Bob Skelley died several years ago, it's the anniversary of his death tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on May 31, 2011, 01:23:02 am
Hi Micox Rob Skelly has the Rhos Fynach in Rhos on Sea  and  is doing well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 31, 2011, 01:43:00 am
The Parade Pub on Church Walks has finally shut down. Mick is concentrating on Cooneys and a pub in Rhyl.

That's a shame, the parade is a lot better than Cooneys. Although that Street needs an alternative to the usual haunts around there.
Anyone know the name of the pub he has in Rhyl?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 02:13:17 pm
It's the Sun, I believe.

Escape (the old Lyons Sports shop next to Hoosons Corner) in Upper Mostyn Street is now available to let at £21k per year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on May 31, 2011, 04:04:10 pm
Thanks Sir John.

If you see him wish him well from me. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 01, 2011, 11:46:12 pm
Take a peek at this article... it tells you ALL you need to know about Britain today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2011, 06:57:56 am
Take a peek at this article... it tells you ALL you need to know about Britain today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13621315)
You're not wrong.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2011, 02:18:58 pm
I noticed that Topolinos in Upper Mostyn Street have applied for Planning Permission to operate as a Takeaway. Odd really, because according to their website, they already offer a Takeaway service there:

http://topolinospizza.co.uk/ (http://topolinospizza.co.uk/)

"Topolino Town Restaurant & Takeaway, 155 Upper Mostyn Street, Tel: 01492 868333"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 02, 2011, 04:20:42 pm
Visited Cafe 101 this afternoon to partake of some hot liquid refreshment.  The first thing the new owners seem to have chosen to do after re-arranging the tables is hike up the prices.   Looks like our usual two visits each week will rapidly immediately reduce to zero.  Shame really that the exuberant presence of Pedro has gone.   I wonder what all the other "regulars" will think?    $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2011, 06:02:32 pm
I havent visited there for several months, might pop in to see what its like now. You and your good wife were there last time I visited.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 02, 2011, 06:22:09 pm
;) I nominate Yorkie ZXZ

Thaks for that Wrex - I have the Bill for you!    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 02, 2011, 06:43:52 pm
I havent visited there for several months, might pop in to see what its like now. You and your good wife were there last time I visited.

I don't recall ever seeing you there - maybe you should have spoken!     ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 02, 2011, 11:04:36 pm
 ;) Put it on council expenses. WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2011, 08:11:35 am
I havent visited there for several months, might pop in to see what its like now. You and your good wife were there last time I visited.

I don't recall ever seeing you there
;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 03, 2011, 08:29:48 am
Unless of course you were that tall gentleman (sic) who was sitting on his own at the table next to the wall.  Dressed in a dark suit if I remember and who left in a dark (black?) Mercedes B Class or similar!  Yes it was some time ago!     :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2011, 08:39:09 am
Unless of course you were that tall gentleman (sic) who was sitting on his own at the table next to the wall.  Dressed in a dark suit if I remember and who left in a dark (black?) Mercedes B Class or similar!  Yes it was some time ago!     :D
I'm afraid not. I was with a lady friend and we arrived/left on foot.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 05:52:50 pm
 ;) Just had a coffee in Indulgence next to the Alex,very nice too.On the subject of the Alex it appears that the new tennant is still running it as a pub which is not in his agreement,apparently he used to run the Bee in Abergele. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 06:56:12 pm
On the subject of the Alex it appears that the new tennant is still running it as a pub
I had also noticed this. Lots of people sitting outside with pints but no food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 07:19:40 pm
 :(For the Alex to survive you need to gut the hotel and your food needs to be excellent,why do people think it will be easy pickings to just open and let sub standard rooms and food and people will come flocking,thereis too much competion for this place to survive as a hotel and restaurant without doing the place up and serving quality food at a sensible price,hence the landlord already seems to have broken the rules and is just serving drinks to some people. :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 04:37:02 pm
Poundstretcher signs have gone up on the old Alworths shop. Didn't you say they were moving there Wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on June 07, 2011, 05:01:19 pm
So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 05:07:37 pm
So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
I assume the old one will be closing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on June 07, 2011, 06:51:23 pm
So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
I assume the old one will be closing.

I was wondering that myself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on June 07, 2011, 07:04:51 pm
The signs have been put up on the new William Glover gift shop which is opening opposite their cuurent shop in the old Wonderllandudno shop
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 07:55:40 pm
The signs have been put up on the new William Glover gift shop which is opening opposite their cuurent shop in the old Wonderllandudno shop
Their furniture shop is up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2011, 08:55:04 pm
 :(Nobody listens to me :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 08:58:29 pm
We do, Wrex!  ;D  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2011, 09:19:19 pm
:(Nobody listens to me :'(

Sorry - didyou say something?    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2011, 09:34:22 pm
 :D Yorkie,i said the town council does a excellent job for the town,they listen to all our complaints and suggestions and then act on them just why we voted for them to do for us.Now pick yourself up off the floor and ring one of them just to see if they have got a clue what is going on in town and see why exactly they are sitting on the council. WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 08, 2011, 07:55:05 am
Hi Wrex - Just for the record I am in virtual constant contact with the Council.  It has just taken over 2 months to get some information from them under the FOI Act.    I also have an ongoing problem which I hope the Ombudsman will be able to solve.   As an ex Councillor I am fully aware of what goes on behind the solid closed doors of the Council Chamber.  Even Judith has stopped reporting on their antics!    L0L

I think the booze bill for the Mayor's Parlour has gone up significantly since our my day!      ZXZ   ZXZ   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2011, 07:55:45 pm
The old Alworths/Woolworths store with its new Poundstretcher signage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2011, 08:19:53 pm
The old Wonderllandudno shop at No.1 Mostyn Street has now got its WG & Co. sign up. As already mentioned, it is an offshoot of the William Glover shop on Vaughan Street:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 09, 2011, 09:02:35 pm
I'm told that Home Cooking have not bought Cafe 101 but it is the original owners returning?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 09, 2011, 09:30:43 pm
I understood that it was Paul Blanchard and that came from the horses mouth (Pedro)!   Who cares anyway?   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 10, 2011, 10:56:53 am
In the past I have found it a pleasure to praise the quality of goods sold by ALDI but recently I have found their "fresh" vegetables more like what one would expect to be tossed out and given to the Zoo.
Cabbage tops on display with numerous yellow leaves, courgettes already showing decay, "Jersey" potatoes with scab, cucumbers going bad at the tips, yellowing cauliflowers and other such awful stuff.   I am very surprised as the Germans (in Germany), have always impressed me with their attitude towards food quality.    I'll have to stick to the tinned and packaged stuff in future.     :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2011, 11:02:36 am
So will there be two now then, isn't the one up the road a poundstretcher?
I assume the old one will be closing.

I was wondering that myself.

My OH was told this morning by someone who works there that both are to remain open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 10, 2011, 01:10:17 pm
Following on from the discussions about the state of the shopping in Llandudno, here are my own views.These are purely personal comments on what I like to shop for when I am on holiday or a day out somewhere but what I think is lacking in this area.
When I am away I like to look for things which have been made locally and which remind you how you have enjoyed a place.
This also means that if I find something I like I will want to go back to that shop and the place to look for something else another time.
I would like to see a shop in LLandudno that sold locally made goods including paintings, photographs, cards, ceramics, textiles, jewelry etc.
It would also be good to be able to buy locally made food stuffs in the same place.

What about a cooperative department style shop that could incorporate all things local and that could be manned in turn by each of the producers?
There is a cooperative shop in Conwy that sells items from various  potters but I think that is exclusively pottery.
I know there is the Mostyn Gallery but to me it doesn’t seem to have individual enough goods for sale. I do not know how much they actually sell there.
A combination of new and old goods would be of interest. Somewhere for example that you could buy vintage welsh quilts along side new ones.
Vintage shops are much in vogue at the moment. I was recently in Cardiff in the Royal Arcade where there is an excellent mix of vintage and new shops. including Melin Tregwynt.
Other favourites of mine are,
Ruthin Craft Centre: This shop sells wonderful inspiring things but there are not many everyday purchases to be had there. They  sell special things you need to save up for.
White Lion Street Gallery Tenby : where they only sell cards made by the artists that they feature in the shop.
Oriel -Y - Felin St. Davids:
Roundhouse Gallery: Sennen Cove

These are all places that I have bought things and that I look forward to going back to.

There are always small interesting shops in small seaside villages but as soon as you get to a bigger town the shops become less interesting and the goods more mass produced and also produced abroad.
I presume, but I do not know, that this is due to higher rents.

Llandudno  has lots of shops that sell cheap mass produced things. What about some more expensive but more worthwhile locally made goods for sale?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2011, 01:38:38 pm
I agree with you on those points Hollins, If away anywhere I tend to make a bee-line for 'different' shops to buy presents to put away for Christmas etc for family and friends. eg if we ever go to Moelfre there is a super gift shop there which sells unusual bits and pieces. Same in Ludlow where we have just been for a day or two. There there are some lovely little shops which sell quality goods, an excellent cheese shop and the plant stalls on the market are fantastic. We always have a cake from the old fashioned cake shop there and thouroughly enjoy the hustle and bustle of locals and tourists alike.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 10, 2011, 02:21:14 pm
I agree about the vintage shops Hollins, there is lovely one in Rhewl just outside Ruthin called Homewood Bound selling refurbished furniture and kitchenalia, they also sell Cath Kidston and Emma Bridgewater goods, we were in there today, I'll need to save up to buy something from there next time I visit.

 Listers in Llandudno is a nice shop and fairly affordable. The upper Mostyn street area is the best in town for the more unusual shops, surely a good area for market stalls!

I like to hunt for bargains though, and today was delighted to find a  green Lloyd Loom bedside cabinet for a fiver in  a new secondhand shop in Denbigh called Dragon Exchange.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 10, 2011, 02:38:12 pm
Thanks for those recommendations. I shall be giving them a try!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:34:22 pm
But don't go to these.  Each one was rated as "Major improvement necessary " in their food preparation and hygiene and gained only a (1) out of a possible (5) in their inspections... Source: Conwy food ratings guide (http://ratings.food.gov.uk/AdvancedSearch.aspx?s=1&so=Equal&refla=ZdK3h76%2f0Ns%3d&st=1&las=550)

Abbeyfield
Abbeyfield 57 Lloyd Street Llandudno
LL30 2YP
   

Abergele Kebab and Pizza
41 Market Street Abergele
LL22 7AF


Barnacles Restaurant
Barnacles Chip Shop 7 Mostyn Street Llandudno
LL30 2NL


Bella Vista
The Bella Vista Hotel 83 Church Walks Llandudno
LL30 2HD
   
   

Buffet Coach Cafe
Conway Valley Railway Museum Ffordd Hen Eglwys Betws Y Coed
LL24 0AL
   
   

Cafe Culture
Cafe Culture 79 Mostyn Street Llandudno
LL30 2NN
   
   

Cafe Orient Express
Cafe Orient Express 8 Gloddaeth Street Llandudno
LL30 2DS
   

Charcoal Grill
Charcole Grill 425 Abergele Road Old Colwyn Colwyn Bay
LL29 9PR
   

Cod Almighty
15 Ffordd Las Llandudno
LL30 1ER
   

Cooneys
137 Mostyn Street Llandudno
LL30 2PB
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:47:43 pm
The following places gained a (2); Improvement necessary

Ambassador Hotel
Ambassador Hotel St. Georges Place Llandudno
LL30 2NR

Cafe-T-Air

Cafe T Air 135 Station Road Deganwy Conwy
LL31 9EJ

Chatsworth House Hotel

Chatsworth House Hotel Gloddaeth Crescent Llandudno
LL30 2XS
 
Empire Hotel
Empire Hotel 73 Church Walks Llandudno
LL30 2HE
 
J Williams Butchers
Mona Buildings Station Road Llanfairfechan
LL33 0AP
 
Molly's Cafe
Molly's Cafe 18B Augusta Street Llandudno
LL30 2AD
 
Morfa Stores
MorfaStores 25 Penmaen Road Conwy
LL32 8HA
 
No 1's Bistro
No 1's Bistro 1 Old Road Llandudno
LL30 2HA

Rendezvous Cafe

71 Abergele Road Colwyn Bay
LL29 7RU
 
Swan Inn
Swan Inn Swan Square Llanfairtalhaiarn Abergele

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:49:08 pm
"The food safety officer inspecting a business checks how well the business is meeting the law by looking at:

    * how hygienically the food is handled – how it is prepared, cooked, re-heated, cooled and stored
    * the condition of the structure of the buildings – the cleanliness, layout, lighting, ventilation and other facilities
    * how the business manages and records what it does to make sure food is safe

At the end of the inspection, the business is given one of the six ratings. The top rating of ‘5’ means that the business was found to have ‘very good’ hygiene standards. Any business should be able to reach this top rating.

The food safety officer will explain to the person who owns or manages the business what improvements are needed and how they can achieve the top rating of '5'. The local authority will check that these improvements are made.

The Food Hygiene Rating Scheme has been designed to make sure that the ratings given to businesses are fair."

What's important to realise is that a food preparation business with excellent hygiene and food hanlding practices can still fall foul of the second requirement: "the condition of the structure of the buildings – the cleanliness, layout, lighting, ventilation and other facilities"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:54:52 pm
The following places received the top marking:

Amorn Thai
6 Denbigh Street Llanrwst
LL26 0LL
   

Bistro Betws y Coed

Bistro Betws y Coed Betws y Coed
LL24 0AY
      

Blas Ar Fwyd
25 Station Road Llanrwst
LL26 0EP
   
   
Can-y-Bae
10 Mostyn Crescent Llandudno
LL30 1AR
      

Castle Tea Gardens
27 Castle Street Conwy
LL32 8AY
   
Cleave Court
1 St. Seiriols Road Llandudno

Depressingly few commercial establishments in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 03:56:30 pm
For the worst score - (0) out of (5):

Gannets
Gannets Treforris Road Dwygyfylchi Penmaenmawr
LL34 6UB
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
   
Kinmel Manor Hotel Ltd
Kinmel Manor Hotel St. George Road Abergele
LL22 9AS
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on June 10, 2011, 06:00:24 pm
 ZXZ Close Mostyn Street between Lloyd St and Gloddaeth Ave once a fortnight and have a street market.  $walesflag$ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 10, 2011, 06:49:18 pm
ZXZ Close Mostyn Street between Lloyd St and Gloddaeth Ave once a fortnight and have a street market.  $walesflag$ 
I agree
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 10, 2011, 09:53:01 pm
Thanks for those recommendations. I shall be giving them a try!

I fear that Hollins, Nemesis and Suepp are in a minority.
Yes, everyone likes to SEE those types of shops, and browse in them.... but few BUY anything.
It is depressingly obvious that tat sells, (that and ice-cream ...and beer)

There are (or have been) quite a number of 'quality' or 'niche' shops in Llandudno over the past few years, but few could survive.
The Little Deli on Upper Mostyn St is a very nice business, but is up for sale. Why?
The Manor Fine foods shop, winds awards for its range and display ... but is deathly quiet when you peer in.

Just sit on a bench in town, or on the pier, and you will notice that every 2nd person is carrying a white/green carrier bag (from Poundland) or a white/red one (from Bargain Centre)

I'm not saying that I sell anything of great quality... please don't think that... but I look on with envious eyes most days at the other 'more popular' kiosks on the Pier.   Fair play to them, if I had the opportunity I know which ones I would rather have on many days of the season.

A comment I hear regularly ...'' Oh, there are some nice bits in here... its like that shop we used to see in such-a-place, you know, the one that closed down''   

I am as guilty as anyone.. I love the little shops in Beaumaris and Conwy.  Can't ever remember buying much in them though.
I never leave Poundland empty handed though.



 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 10, 2011, 10:01:25 pm
A shop I haven't seen get a mention in here... The Games Cabin in Madoc Street.. It's has a complete overhaul, and doesn't really even sell games anymore. It's sort of become a bohemian junk shop. But if it's classic vinyl albums your after there isn't anywhere better locally. I bought two Springsteen LPs I didn't have in my collection for about 3 or 4 pound each. The fact they weren't already in my collection is an indication they're pretty hard to get hold of... Well the same records sell on E bay for 20 to 30 pounds... There's some great clothes, guitars, really all sorts in there as well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2011, 10:14:07 pm
Going back to the Food Hygiene Rankings...I don't know if I like the way they go about them. I think businesses who are inspected and receive a poor rating should be given the opportunity to make the necessary improvements and then reinspected before a final rating is given. Are we to assume that even a rating of 0 or 1 means that the standard of hygiene is still acceptable enough for the business to remain open?  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 11, 2011, 08:27:34 am
I think that's one of the great unknowns, Dave. Item (2) on their list is so vague and lacking in detailed criteria that, without access to their actual inspection report, you cannot know if it's actually a hygiene issue as such or a building issue. It could be something as simple as a wall not being tiled the way the inspectors prefer it to be.

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I think businesses who are inspected and receive a poor rating should be given the opportunity to make the necessary improvements and then reinspected before a final rating is given.

Well, they will have had a previous inspection designed for precisely that purpose and which didn't receive a public rating, so they will have been warned.  I'm not certain what the policy is with regard to new businesses, however.

In fact, fire safety inspections are a bit like that.  I've been involved (on the receiving end) of a fair few of those, and it seems that a lot of the points they make vary according to the person doing the inspection.  I appreciate no two places are identical, but surely it's only fair to make the criteria for the building aspects as clearly defined as it is for the actual food storage issues.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 11, 2011, 08:29:26 am
On your last point, I think that if actual food hygiene practises are found to be seriously deficient, they can close the establishment down there and then.  And, with the various scares in the media, they are very cautious about that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2011, 08:40:45 am
I'm not saying that I sell anything of great quality
Apart from the excellent photographs of Llandudno, of course, available from www.llandudno-emporium.com (http://www.llandudno-emporium.com)  $angry$

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I never leave Poundland empty handed though.

...or KFC.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 11, 2011, 09:23:21 am
I'm not saying that I sell anything of great quality
Apart from the excellent photographs of Llandudno, of course, available from www.llandudno-emporium.com (http://www.llandudno-emporium.com)  $angry$

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I never leave Poundland empty handed though.

...or KFC.  :laugh:

Ha ha... correct... thats one high class purveyor of food that I regularly patronise!   L0L L0L
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 11, 2011, 11:37:43 am
Have you been to Celtica in Caernarfon?  I wish they would open one here - all the Welsh craf stuff and a cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2011, 07:33:50 pm
The new WG & Co gift shop at 1 Mostyn Street will be opening on Friday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 15, 2011, 02:11:11 pm
I see Stead and Simpson have shut for their long advertised refit !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 16, 2011, 12:21:02 am
It looks like the Childrenswear shop on St Georges place has closed down. 
The one between the already closed 'Sweet Shop' ... and the 'on borrowed time' Petticoat Lane fancy goods shop.

There is very little left open on that stretch now!   St Georges Plaice Chippie being the exception.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 08:09:07 am
It was called 'Urchin', I think. Amazing how St Georges Place is a dead spot for shops, when Mostyn Street is less than 50 feet away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 16, 2011, 10:11:29 am
where in Llandudno could I buy a bucket and spade  or  beach chairs/windbreaks and general holiday and beach stuff?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 10:13:39 am
where in Llandudno could I buy a bucket and spade  or  beach chairs/windbreaks and general holiday and beach stuff?
The Toys & Jokes kiosk on the pier has a very good range of buckets and spades etc. Also the Newsagent across the road from the Empire has a few bits and pieces.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 16, 2011, 10:51:27 am
thanks, just bought a camper van again and want to kit it out for the beach with chairs tables etc!  "Proper" camping shops charge too much,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 06:15:46 pm
Oscar Jnr is saying that Tesco have snatched the former Woolworths store in Llandudno away from Poundstretcher.

""Oscar reliably informed that Tesco have knocked Poundstretcher out of the water in snatching the old Woolworth in Llandudno from their mouths.

Fax came in earlier asking about loading restrictions etc and access for Mostyn St and back Mostyn Street from Tesco""
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 17, 2011, 06:25:20 pm
 ;D If that is true Dave,it is only because Asda have Netto next to them in the Junction,but hey who cares its jobs. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:31:25 pm
Apparently the Poundstretchers signs (that were only installed last week) were removed from the shop today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 07:32:59 pm
VERY... *&(

If it is a Tesco Express , they open late, and they will clean up in that area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:37:34 pm
The W G & Co gift shop opened at 1 Mostyn Street today. Good stuff but pricey.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 07:40:13 pm
Hollins!!!!

You need to hurry down there.... right up your street, and it might not last long!  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:53:20 pm
It mainly seems to be generic gifts and housewares, rather than anything Llandudno related.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 17, 2011, 08:06:09 pm
Too late anyway as I have already spent this weeks allowance on a plastic clock in the shape of a gold elephant with butterflies for the hands!

 :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on June 17, 2011, 08:07:32 pm
I will miss the "Wonderlandudno" sign. To my knowledge it was one of the first humourous titles around. Shops were almost always given the name of the owners, something like "nothing over 99p" unheard.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:09:14 pm
I agree, Mike, it was a great, memorable name. Maybe it will get reused by someone.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 08:47:50 pm
Too late anyway as I have already spent this weeks allowance on a plastic clock in the shape of a gold elephant with butterflies for the hands!

 :'(

ha ha ....  L0L L0L _))* _))*

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 09:01:36 pm
It looked a little bit like this one but 10 times tackier:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 07:45:44 am
 :P Well i suppose today should be the Tesco debate,will it be good for Llandudno or not,oh yes i do have a view. This is just what the bottom [or top] end of town was looking for,someone to pull the punters to the bottom end and with the Clarence looking as if it may have been bought things may be on the up.Iread one comment,goodbye M +S ,why a Tesco express would affect them is beyond me ,also goodbye to the off-license,hello we ain;t got any,so its over to you. ZXZ



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 08:18:29 am
 One thing i forgot,at least the top half of the building will be painted with Tesco. D) ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2011, 08:59:06 am
It certainly needs a paint! The good thing about Tesco is they will at least spend a decent sum of money on renovating the premises with a new shopfront and maybe even reglaze the canopy outside so it doesn't look so dark. I suspect the main business to be affected by their presence will be the Costcutter on Upper Mostyn Street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 18, 2011, 11:24:43 am
I will miss the "Wonderlandudno" sign. To my knowledge it was one of the first humourous titles around. Shops were almost always given the name of the owners, something like "nothing over 99p" unheard.
There's always "Craftland-udno"  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 18, 2011, 11:41:34 am
It's good news as it might lead to re-vitalising that area.  the bad news is that tesco Express are expensive. It will be cheaper to go to the Junction.   :-[
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 18, 2011, 11:52:29 am
my daughter reckoned there were 9 "Tesco's"  available to her on the walk back to her student accommodation near Moorfields Station from her Lecture halls near the Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 18, 2011, 03:51:57 pm
Walked past Craft Llandudno this pm and couldn't see the place for bedding plants !!

The knitting shop on the corner of Lloyd St and Madoc St has closed and so has the Craft Shop at the rear of Boots.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2011, 05:16:37 pm
I will miss the "Wonderlandudno" sign. To my knowledge it was one of the first humourous titles around. Shops were almost always given the name of the owners, something like "nothing over 99p" unheard.
In the old, old days, shops were usually named after the building they were in, so Stafford House, Manchester House etc.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2011, 05:34:01 pm
Apparently the Poundstretchers signs (that were only installed last week) were removed from the shop today.
Now you see them, now you don't...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2011, 12:37:02 am
Walked past Craft Llandudno this pm and couldn't see the place for bedding plants !!

The knitting shop on the corner of Lloyd St and Madoc St has closed and so has the Craft Shop at the rear of Boots.

I didn't fancy the chances of that knittling wool shop lasting long, and sadly (and I mean sadly) I was right.

I was tipped off by ''he who knows all things'' to poosibly re-locate my shop to the Craft Shop behind Boots.
It is a nice shop, and the rent is cheap ... but the footfall is depressingly low.

So my search goes on...

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 20, 2011, 11:18:20 am
The Craft shop has been "re-possessed" by Mostyn Estates like they did to the barbers in Brookes Street.  The wool shop has a sign that says due to a MOB (what's that?) they'll be closed re-opening at the beginning of July.
It's a shame as they worked really hard at getting it going and involving people.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 20, 2011, 05:55:55 pm
Think it is a Management Buy Out
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 21, 2011, 02:42:34 pm
Sorry I meant MBO maybe something bankruptcy order?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2011, 06:52:34 pm
Mrs Fester was in the post office yesterday and overheard a lady sending a recorded delivery letter to her boss in the craft shop to add to the long list of creditors, she hadn't been paid for a week and a half !!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 22, 2011, 05:54:57 pm
On the subject of the Alex it appears that the new tennant is still running it as a pub
I had also noticed this. Lots of people sitting outside with pints but no food.
When I went past today, there was a notorious Llandudno alcoholic boozing outside. The one with the black leather jacket...  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 22, 2011, 05:57:15 pm
Nice ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2011, 07:05:28 pm
 ;) Went to La Taverna again last week and loved it. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2011, 07:07:29 pm
 Z** Has the brewery put a Manager in the Parade since Mick left. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2011, 07:25:05 pm
Z** Has the brewery put a Manager in the Parade since Mick left. ZXZ
Looks empty to me. There's an old metal plant pot outside that is overflowing with rubbish, looks awful.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 26, 2011, 01:42:21 pm
 :) Has Mrs Fester found a shop yet,Mr Fester. ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 26, 2011, 11:28:23 pm
Wrex, the search continues... for Mrs F, for me... and for Dave R.

The right places (or places) at the right time... in the right area... at the RIGHT PRICE !

These are the keys to success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on June 27, 2011, 01:43:00 am
I think you will pull it off sooner or later.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 27, 2011, 12:31:21 pm
A retailer called Jane Norman has gone into administration, I understand they have a unit within Debenhams at Parc Llandudno?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on June 27, 2011, 08:13:58 pm
Heard that Comet was also closing.  Anyone know what will be going there in its place?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2011, 11:47:35 am
Thorntons in the Victoria Centre will be closing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2011, 05:12:02 pm
Publishers Book Clearance have started an End of Lease sale. Does this mean that someone else has taken a proper lease on that shop? 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 12:44:53 am
Thorntons in the Victoria Centre will be closing.

Thorntons, Comet, Jane Norman ... Also TJ Hughes a big name elsewhere in the UK.
It feels like a row of dominoes is falling.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2011, 06:41:16 am
interestingly, most of these shops I've never set foot in, now it seem that I was not the only one!  without a doubt the high street and possibly retail parks will never be the same again. For many years I have hunted the best prices, bargains on the internet etc,car boot sales (the best form of recycling!) now everyone is doing it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 09:39:34 am
Never set foot in Thornton's?  Are you mad sir?

How can it be resisted? ....Mmmmm Chocolate...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on June 29, 2011, 09:49:32 am
Have to admit, we rarely pass a Thorntons without popping in!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2011, 10:17:48 am
Never set foot in Thornton's?  Are you mad sir?

How can it be resisted? ....Mmmmm Chocolate...

Never set foot in one in my life, I always thought it was vastly overpriced, I'm happy with Cadburys and I like the Asda dark chocolate bars at £1 each!   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on June 29, 2011, 11:18:01 am
Jane Norman sells lovely clothes -  if you are size 6-10 and loaded. Their target customer was 16-25 years according to the BBC !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 29, 2011, 12:21:44 pm
Thorntons will "only" be closing those 120 shops which are "underperforming so will ours go?

I'll wait until Books etc. do their carrier bag full of books for £5 offer.  Got some good ones when they left Woolies.  Bet they move to AN Other empty shop in the town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2011, 12:26:44 pm
Jane Norman sells lovely clothes -  if you are size 6-10 and loaded. Their target customer was 16-25 years according to the BBC !

We've never heard of Jane Norman until now, when they announced the closing down, ironic really!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2011, 02:09:15 pm
Never set foot in Thornton's?  Are you mad sir?

How can it be resisted? ....Mmmmm Chocolate...

Never set foot in one in my life, I always thought it was vastly overpriced, I'm happy with Cadburys and I like the Asda dark chocolate bars at £1 each!   
Try the Aldi one !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 29, 2011, 03:30:06 pm
I agree - ALDI has absolutely fabulous chocolate (so I'm told).     L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on June 29, 2011, 05:14:46 pm
Well done to Su ex The Good Life on Upper Moystyn Street who's re-opening as a cafe / ice cream / Welsh tea room Good luck to her I'll be popping in for a 99
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2011, 06:09:03 pm
Was that the one which was a fruit shop, then a hairdresser, then a fruit shop again?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2011, 06:24:41 pm
That's the one !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 07:17:57 pm
Was that the one which was a fruit shop, then a hairdresser, then a fruit shop again?

..and also tried unsuccessfully to become a tea rooms?  (but had no toilet faciities?)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2011, 07:30:06 pm
Ah yes, I'd forgotten that. I believe the intention was to brand itself the 'Smallest Tearooms In Great Britain', taking after the Smallest House on Conwy Quay.  :laugh:  :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on June 29, 2011, 08:03:46 pm
Jane Norman sells lovely clothes -  if you are size 6-10 and loaded. Their target customer was 16-25 years according to the BBC !

No wonder I could never find anything suitable there - although I am a size 8/10 I certainly do not come in the age target range of 16-25 ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on June 29, 2011, 09:07:32 pm
I agree - ALDI has absolutely fabulous chocolate (so I'm told).     L0L

I also agree

Well the little chocolate eggs they did at easter were nice anyway :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2011, 10:56:05 pm
I saw this today, what a great concept in these cash strapped times...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 11:46:41 pm
Yes Dave, a clever concept.
Anything that latches on to the Poundland type marketing appeal is bound to be popular.
...also the British love Pies !!  (remember I told you about this only a week or two ago)

Mmmmm pies.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on June 30, 2011, 09:01:13 am
Is it true that they put the holes in the tops of meat pies so that we can carry four in each hand?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 09:15:40 am
One thing I forgot to mention yesterday was the difference in cafe prices between Llandudno and Chester. Given that Chester is far more affluent and a magnet for overseas visitors, prices were very reasonable (due to the immense amount of competition, no doubt) - usual price for a Latte was £1.99. Several places in Llandudno charge considerably more than that, with the Queen Victoria pub charging £2.75!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 30, 2011, 12:23:46 pm
Fortes at Rhos on Sea is verey reasonable for either Capuccino or Latte and if you want a really cheap one that isn't as bad as the price would indicate, try Tesco at the Junction - just £1.35!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on June 30, 2011, 05:54:34 pm
I am sure Camp coffee would be a lot cheaper :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on June 30, 2011, 09:11:51 pm
Can you still get Camp coffee?

Used to quite like it as a kid. Mind you there weren't too many alternatives in the late 40s and early 50s!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on June 30, 2011, 09:30:48 pm
Can you still get Camp coffee?

Used to quite like it as a kid. Mind you there weren't too many alternatives in the late 40s and early 50s!

Available on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004G8YILO (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004G8YILO)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 01, 2011, 01:35:56 am
Can you still get Camp coffee?

Used to quite like it as a kid. Mind you there weren't too many alternatives in the late 40s and early 50s!

Did you ever play Queen of Sheba at your house Stan?  :D

The advertisement reads:

Charades or Forfeits, Blind Man's Bluff or Queen of Sheba (you out to try that, at your next party!)--whatever the game may be, Camp is the Coffee your guests will appreciate afterwards.
More and more hostesses are serving Camp nowadays, because it is always such good coffee--and so easy to make, without leaving the jolly crowd for more than a moment.
At Dances, too, Camping out has quite taken the place of sitting out. There is no refreshment more really refreshing than a cup of Camp Coffee. Camp is made by experts, from coffee beans of the finest quality. You have only to add hot water and it's ready to enjoy.
Be sure to order a bottle of Camp Coffee in time for your New Year festivities.

How to play Queen of Sheba

Every guest except the veiled Queen and her attendants goes out of the room. Each then returns, to kneel with uplifted hands on the rug before the Queen, and to ask her three questions, to which she must answer Yes or No. At the third question, the man at the end gives the rug a sudden pull--and then the fun begins!  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 01, 2011, 08:51:52 am
I am sure Camp coffee would be a lot cheaper :P

Especially if one is prone to drinking one's coffee with their left hand on their hip and the little finger sticking out when holding the cup!    L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on July 01, 2011, 01:11:48 pm
Is there any other way? Used to get Iced Coffee in the Coffee Centre made with Camp, delicious. I still get it at the Co-op
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 08:33:41 am
I see that a well known local retailer, Finneys of Bangor, has gone into Administration. They've been in Bangor since 1957 and used to have a large Llandudno store up until a few years ago on the old Red Garages site next to the main Post Office.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13993002 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13993002)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on July 02, 2011, 11:06:35 am
Paynes Majestic building now housing Peacocks has a sign saying for Sale by Auction on it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2011, 04:37:16 pm
Stead & Simpson have re-opened.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 05:08:40 pm
Paynes Majestic building now housing Peacocks has a sign saying for Sale by Auction on it.
It's only the building that is coming up for auction, Peacocks are staying on, they pay £120,000 a year rent on those premises.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on July 03, 2011, 10:43:56 am
The Parade still closed.. Apparently last night due to the boxing the 147 was so full they weren't letting people in.
Surely must be an opportunity for someone... In other news a pint of Heineken now goes for £3.60 in the Loaf  ???
No wonder people are staying in!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 12:03:30 pm
Just think how much people like me are saving in a year, it pays for a b****y good holiday!     Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 01:15:38 am
Thats a contradiction in terms Yorkie,  how can you have a bl##dy good holiday without drinking lots of Heineken?

No, I'm not having it.   Z** Z** Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2011, 05:33:06 pm
There are people working in the old Alworths building in Llandudno today, preparations for the new Tesco?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 04, 2011, 07:10:19 pm
 :D Tesco will not hang around now Asda is about to open naxt to them. WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 11:52:52 pm
A quick restaurant review if I may.

Tonight I really fancied a steak, and Fat Cat had none left...so No 1's Bistro sprang to mind.
I knew that mine hosts, H and Annie would not let us down.

No 1's Bistro nestles at the bottom of Old Road, below the Tram Station, and I have visited many times before.

There are no airs and graces with H and Annie, just a superb meal and a great choice of wines to accompany it.

The menu is medium priced, (Higher than The Empire, Lower than The Seahorse)... and the choice is very wide indeed.

I'll have to keep it quick here, because I'm full and tired... but here goes.
The starters for both Mrs F and I was the Smoked Haddock, with a Welsh Rarebit topping, atop sliced tomatoes and a honey/mustard dressing. We can't resist that, though there are many other choices on the set menu.
There are many more still on the a-la carte menu.

Being the greedy-guts that I am, I ordered the Fish Chowder as an intermediate course.
Lashings of salmon, pollack, prawns and scallops in a mild cheesy broth...Yummm

My main course was the steak I was craving... a rib-eye, grilled to perfection, with a selection of about 6 different veg and potatoes.
Annie is a fabulous chef, she really is.

I was entitled to a sweet,  but I was pleasantly full (not that uncomfortable full) ... so we gave it a miss, and we finished the bottle of house white, and toddled home very happy.

£48.00 the lot .... (including the £12.00 bottle of wine) ... Thanks once again and H.   $dins$ $dins$ $dins$ $dins$ $dins$





Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2011, 07:00:29 am
So your hunger strike has finished then  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:27:34 am
So your hunger strike has finished then  L0L

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 05, 2011, 06:06:33 pm
I agree about the vintage shops Hollins, there is lovely one in Rhewl just outside Ruthin called Homewood Bound selling refurbished furniture and kitchenalia, they also sell Cath Kidston and Emma Bridgewater goods, we were in there today, I'll need to save up to buy something from there next time I visit.

 Listers in Llandudno is a nice shop and fairly affordable. The upper Mostyn street area is the best in town for the more unusual shops, surely a good area for market stalls!

I like to hunt for bargains though, and today was delighted to find a  green Lloyd Loom bedside cabinet for a fiver in  a new secondhand shop in Denbigh called Dragon Exchange.

Thank you suepp for recommending Homewood Bound. I went there today and found two perfect items for my new girlie shed!
I never would have known about it without your tip so many thanks.
I really enjoyed looking around the shop. They are hoping to open a coffee shop soon. That would be good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on July 05, 2011, 06:13:47 pm
Glad you liked it! Good news about the Coffee shop  ,we were saying when we were there that it would be the ideal place for a nice Cafe
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on July 06, 2011, 12:01:39 pm
The wool shop in Lloyd Street has re-opened. Yopu were right MOB must have meant management buy out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 06, 2011, 03:52:52 pm
 ;) On Jason Weymans blog he has found an article on DFS opening in Llandudno in November,so they should be on site very soon. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2011, 05:02:46 pm
Looks like work is finally starting on the old Tourist Info Centre on Chapel Street, the windows have been papered to stop nosey people like me from seeing in  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 06, 2011, 05:20:12 pm
 ;) Jack you are not the only one,i will look through the letterbox[or keyhole] :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on July 06, 2011, 07:53:08 pm
Asda now open in the Junction.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 07, 2011, 11:43:21 am
;) On Jason Weymans blog he has found an article on DFS opening in Llandudno in November,so they should be on site very soon. Z**
Sofa retailer DFS has agreed to open 35,000 sq ft of new stores at two retail parks owned by the Hercules Unit Trust, managed by Schroders and advised by British Land.

DFS will open a 20,000 sq ft store at Valentine Retail Park in Lincoln and a 15,000 sq ft store at Mostyn Champneys Retail Park in Llandudno, North Wales. Both shops will open in late November.

Jon Massey, chief operating officer at DFS, said: “Both retail parks trade well, serve strong catchments, and are well managed.  Consequently, they provide us with a great platform from which to grow the DFS brand in their respective regions.”

Cushman Wakefield and Morgan Williams acted for British Land in Llandudno, and Morgan Williams and Harvey Spack Field represented British Land in Lincoln.  BNP Paribas acted for DFS.

http://www.propertyweek.com/news/news-by-sector/retail/dfs-to-open-stores-in-lincoln-and-north-wales/5020959.article#.ThIWndK_S-I.twitter (http://www.propertyweek.com/news/news-by-sector/retail/dfs-to-open-stores-in-lincoln-and-north-wales/5020959.article#.ThIWndK_S-I.twitter)

 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on July 07, 2011, 11:55:20 am
Oh not another furniture shop how much more do we need?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on July 08, 2011, 08:29:21 am
I saw the review on No1 Bistro I've past it many times but have never seen it open, when does it open? Shame to miss out on all that passing tram trade. I love the food in The Cottage Loaf chips are brill, home made and massive. I also love the food in The Castle View bit more expensive than other pubs but they must have a really good chef everything on the menu is excellent and the puds I'd sell an arm for.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 08, 2011, 09:48:34 am
The Burgers in the Castle View are very good and you can sit outside with a great view over to Conwy Castle.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on July 08, 2011, 09:51:33 am
Asda now open in the Junction.

Sorry my mistake - opens on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on July 11, 2011, 09:41:34 pm
A contributor to Oscar mentions the possibility of Waitrose coming to town. Has anyone heard any whispers related to this?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on July 12, 2011, 12:28:27 pm
Please, please, please.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 12:36:49 pm
It would be great but I'm struggling to think of suitable vacant premises for them?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on July 12, 2011, 07:15:48 pm
The Northern Markets site next to the station was mentioned on Oscar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 07:28:14 pm
I believe that the recently opened Toppolinos Pizza Restaurant in Upper Mostyn Street has already changed hands and is now in the capable hands of Adriana, formerly of Momma Rosas in Craig Y Don.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 13, 2011, 03:04:56 pm
It would be great but I'm struggling to think of suitable vacant premises for them?

Mmmm that was my thought.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 14, 2011, 10:55:46 am
Dominos Pizza are still keen to open in Llandudno, I had an email from them asking for potential locations. Their requirements are:

Frontage - 15ft (5.5m) minimum
Depth - 60ft (20m) minimum
Area - 1,000 sq. ft. - 1,200 sq. ft. (93 - 112 m sq.), which can be over two floors - Minimum requirement = 800 sq. ft. on the ground floor
High visibility
Hot Food Takeaway usage (A5)  (or possibility of change of use)
Potential access to Students
Family neighbourhoods
Parking
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on July 14, 2011, 12:45:24 pm
What about the old Burger King ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 14, 2011, 01:00:20 pm
Anyone else heard on the grapevine that Tesco have pulled out of the deal for Woollies old shop?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 14, 2011, 04:03:19 pm
 8) Nothing would suprise us,if they ever wanted it in the first place.We can wish for the best town in the world, but as long as we are run by CCBC we have no chance. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 14, 2011, 08:37:04 pm
Lot of work been going on in the Parade Pub on Church Walks this week, looks like they are refurbishing it all.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 14, 2011, 10:50:46 pm
Anyone else heard on the grapevine that Tesco have pulled out of the deal for Woollies old shop?

If that IS the case, and Poundstretchers were gazumped (after putting up thier signage) then they deserve all they get!

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on July 15, 2011, 04:26:05 pm
The Craft shop has been "re-possessed" by Mostyn Estates like they did to the barbers in Brookes Street.  The wool shop has a sign that says due to a MOB (what's that?) they'll be closed re-opening at the beginning of July.
It's a shame as they worked really hard at getting it going and involving people.

The craft shop on Back Madoc Street is opening soon as a Hair/Beauty Salon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on July 15, 2011, 08:30:23 pm
The Craft shop has been "re-possessed" by Mostyn Estates like they did to the barbers in Brookes Street.  The wool shop has a sign that says due to a MOB (what's that?) they'll be closed re-opening at the beginning of July.
It's a shame as they worked really hard at getting it going and involving people.

The craft shop on Back Madoc Street is opening soon as a Hair/Beauty Salon.

Hair Salon.. Interested Fester? ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 16, 2011, 07:41:37 am
Wig shop maybe!    L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 16, 2011, 08:16:50 pm
I will have you know that I spend HOURS getting my hair ready each day.... I just don't always take it out with me, thats all....!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on July 18, 2011, 12:29:48 pm
Saw a notice in this weeks'NWWN re. a kebab shop at 133 Mostyn Street.  Is that Upper Mostyn Street?  They are seeking permission to remain open until 2.00 a.m.  What I want to know is what on earth is on in Llandudno to justify staying open that late?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on July 18, 2011, 07:12:05 pm
Saw a notice in this weeks'NWWN re. a kebab shop at 133 Mostyn Street.  Is that Upper Mostyn Street?  They are seeking permission to remain open until 2.00 a.m.  What I want to know is what on earth is on in Llandudno to justify staying open that late?

133 Mostyn Street otherwise known as Upper Mostyn Street is Zak's Kebabs. Club 147 has now got a licence until 2am, that's the reason i think that's behind it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2011, 10:47:46 pm
All the various bars and fast food establishments in Upper Mostyn Street are currently engaged in a game of oneupmanship to try and stay open as late as possible.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2011, 10:49:31 pm
When I was in Chester recently, I was surprised to see that their Fat Cat Cafe Bar was a very nondescript looking place, not the most impressive of venues and not in a great location either:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on July 20, 2011, 07:23:24 am
I used to work round the corner from there and have been in a few times.  They do good food quickly and seem to get a lot of lunchtime trade especially towards the end of the working week.  It's just up from the racecourse and you can't get near the place on race days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 05:05:04 pm
An exciting meal out!
Last night the Mrs and I went to sample the Curry Night at The Mountain View in Mochdre which at £5.25 including a drink seemed like good value.  We have eaten here before and always had a good meal.
We arrived fairly early just before 6 p.m. and our drink order and food order take, both deciding to have a Jalfrezi.   We were told that it would be about 20 minutes as they had just had a large party in.  (8 people).  Apart from us there was another group of 4 already eating and a couple came in about 30 minutes after us.
We had our drinks and waited, and waited for just under an hour, at which time I decided we would leave.  Just as I went to the counter the meals came from the kitchen and I refused them.  The "manager" was somewhat upset and said that he had informed us of a wait.  I reminded him of what he actually said.  The party of 8 had been served 15 minutes previously.   I asked if he had a short order chef or just a cook - and he said that all the meals had to be microwaved and they only had three microwaves.  We left and were not charged for the drinks.

I wonder what they do when it's busy?   I withdraw previous comments on this Establishment.

We then just went into the Afon Conwy and were served within 15 minutes!  Good food and good value at 2 meals for £10.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 05:09:07 pm
you waited a lot longer than I would have done, did you receive any tips as a WAITer?  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 06:42:27 pm
I got the message never to go again!  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on July 22, 2011, 06:42:46 pm


We then just went into the Afon Conwy and were served within 15 minutes!  Good food and good value at 2 meals for £10.

It is very good value Yorkie but I thought that offer finished at 6pm each day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 06:50:12 pm
Ah! And you would seem to be correct.  A quick look at my bill has revealed that with drinks it was a smidgin over £17.00, so we must have paid normal price for fish & chips and scampi.  Still not bad value.   I must have been overcome by their large sign promoting the offer and forgot the time!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 08:54:26 pm
The new Hambone Coffee Shop & Brasserie on Lloyd Street opened on Friday and I took the opportunity to pay it a visit this afternoon with a friend. It's all very smart inside, obviously a fair bit of money has been spent to create it. We sat in the window where space was a little bit tight, but worth it so that we could watch the world go by. Menu seemed to be focused more on snacks, sandwiches and light lunches than anything heavier, but that was fine as there was lots to choose from. Being a greedy b****r, I had one of the more expensive options - the steak sandwich with salad (£6.95), which was served on a wooden platter and was very enjoyable. I also had a Latte (£2.20) which was spot on. Certainly worth a visit!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 26, 2011, 04:23:38 am
Is there any sinage outside?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: margo on July 27, 2011, 08:59:48 pm
heard today that iceland on mostyn champneys is closing in november, the staff attended a meeting before they opened yesterday and were told they are being made redundant as they can't afford the increase in rent, i am wondering if this is the same reason roseby's is closing

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on July 27, 2011, 09:46:25 pm
and to cap it all they are going to charge to park there ,family come to llandudno eat out bowling oops overstay our welcome ,nice big fine
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2011, 09:49:58 pm
Is there any sinage outside?  ???
There isn't, actually, but Shus already had signage up so they wouldn't have needed planning permission anyway.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 28, 2011, 07:33:53 pm
Is there any sinage outside?  ???
There isn't, actually, but Shus already had signage up so they wouldn't have needed planning permission anyway.

I'm not sure what Shus is? I couldn't see any signage in the photo indicating what the property is. Perhaps there is signage there somewhere or they have not got round to putting any up yet. Perhaps.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 28, 2011, 07:36:23 pm
SHUS was the Shoe shop which occupied the building before the new Brasserie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 28, 2011, 07:39:25 pm
SHUS was the Shoe shop which occupied the building before the new Brasserie.


Thanks Fester. Do you happen to know if Ainsworths has any sinage outside?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2011, 08:01:30 pm
No, they don't, they have lettering on the windows instead. All very tasteful.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2011, 07:29:57 pm
The JD Sports shop on Mostyn Street is now called 'Outlet Branded Clearance'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 01, 2011, 06:14:13 pm
I hope it is okay to put this in this section because technically it is "Shops, out of area!"
I can't wait for this shop to open. It is the new M & S store being built at Cheshire Oaks near Ellesmere Port.
The roof is amazing. It will be 150,000sq ft with 950 parking spaces. It will be their second largest UK store and is now due to open August 2012.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 09:54:22 am
Anyone else heard on the grapevine that Tesco have pulled out of the deal for Woollies old shop?

If that IS the case, and Poundstretchers were gazumped (after putting up thier signage) then they deserve all they get!
Speculation now that it is going to be a Sainsburys Local!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 10:36:51 am
I understand that the Julian Graves shop in the Victoria Centre has been placed on the market.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2011, 09:43:39 am
The Parade Pub in Church Walks will be reopening in a  few weeks as an 'authentic Irish Bar'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2011, 12:00:33 am
Interesting!
Judging by how busy all the other pubs and restauarants in Church Walks were tonight, that is a great idea and it will rake it in.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 06, 2011, 08:58:22 am
Hope the brewery are not doing it on the cheap and it just reverts to the dive it has always been. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2011, 08:15:19 pm
Topolinos in Upper Mostyn Street have applied to operate as a Takeaway, Planning Officers are (rightly, in my view) recommending refusal.
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=26761 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=26761)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2011, 09:51:59 am
I've heard this morning that the Starbucks coffee shop chain are possibly looking at opening in Llandudno. A corner site in central Llandudno currently in retail use has been mentioned. All very tentative, of course, so we shall see.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 08, 2011, 11:41:30 am
I'm pretty sure that Julian Graves is a franchise so maybe the franchisee is fed up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on August 08, 2011, 12:45:20 pm
I'm a proper coffee addict I have to admit but you can't beat Costa Coffee in my opinion.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 08, 2011, 05:33:25 pm
Jumpers , wades and Diskos are still under offer and we are still on Dominoes hit list. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2011, 11:07:40 pm
As I left the very excellent Fat Cat bar tonight, at only 9.40pm,  I couldn't help but notice that other bars such as Fountains and the London had literally NO-ONE in. Completely devoid of customers.  (The Fat Cat had quite a few in , but could not be deemed busy)

This is August for heavens sake, the main season is here in full vigour,  there is something very wrong methinks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 08, 2011, 11:10:30 pm
yes, the weather is more like March!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2011, 11:12:53 pm
It is,  but there is more to it...
There are people in the town despite the poor weather,  so are they staying in?  are they skint?

Whats going on?   I foresee more businesses going bump before this year is out at this rate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on August 08, 2011, 11:37:46 pm
Came back through town at about 4:30 yesterday and for some reason there seemed to be about 50% of the people that had been around at a similar time last week. Second week of the major school holidays.  Could it be that people can no longer afford to have both of their "wakes" weeks away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 09, 2011, 11:54:16 am
Asda car park was still mainly empty just after 9 this morning and I could have parked anywhere at the Bog Island end of town.
Colwyn Bay was worse at 10.30am, very few stalls on the market( no plants which is what I went for) and even Morrisons ( got a couple of plants there) was quiet.
The proms in Colwyn, Rhos and Llandudno were all quiet.
Weather?---- Brr !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 12:08:09 pm
Asda car park was still mainly empty just after 9 this morning and I could have parked anywhere at the Bog Island end of town.
Colwyn Bay was worse at 10.30am, very few stalls on the market( no plants which is what I went for) and even Morrisons ( got a couple of plants there) was quiet.
The proms in Colwyn, Rhos and Llandudno were all quiet.
Weather?---- Brr !

Maybe everyone has popped over to Liverpool for a spot of rioting?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2011, 01:49:34 pm
Trojan, you seem to be posting on UK time at the moment.  Have you got insomnia or should we say "Welcome Home"! 
 :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 02:01:56 pm
Trojan, you seem to be posting on UK time at the moment.  Have you got insomnia or should we say "Welcome Home"! 
 :)

Insomnia Blodyn.  :weeping:

Funny, you're not the only person who thought I was home.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2011, 02:08:00 pm
Sorry to hear that, Trojan.   :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 02:14:57 pm
Sorry to hear that, Trojan.   :(

Thanks Blodyn.

To make matters worse I'm an agnostic dyslexic insomniac.

I lie awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2011, 03:15:00 pm
I'm an agnostic dyslexic insomniac.

I lie awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.  :-X

You can be relied on to raise a smile!
 ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 09, 2011, 04:57:55 pm
Work has started on the old Diskos shop today - don't know yet what it is going to be though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2011, 09:28:20 am
A little bit outside our area but...Marks & Spencers closing their Rhyl store will be devastating for the town. Listers have also pulled out.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 09:30:52 am
Just read that myself, most of the chains have gone -- Mothercare and the like. Soon there will be nothing--- Rhyl was a lovely place when I was a kid-- It's such a shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on August 12, 2011, 10:03:32 am
that's a shame but both stores are much smaller than their Llandudno counterparts and don't have the space to display a full range of goods,  the food part of M&S often seems busy although come to think of it I haven't "popped into Rhyl" for a long long time.

My main purchases from M&S these days are online and few and far between, seem to have less spare cash than I used to!

Have found lately that  my supermarket shopping bills have risen in recent months and whereas I would spend maybe £25 in one go, it is now nearer £40 - and that's without Cashback! Maybe others have the same experience?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 12, 2011, 10:12:25 am
Yes, you are right!
I do my weekly shop in Asda and it used to be around £40, now it is £50-55 but I always put my receipt in to their price guarantee page the following morning. There is almost always a voucher for anything from £1 - £5 back.
It is amazing how it works it out when you consider all those till receipts they must generate.
If the fruit and veg buyer from Asda is reading this forum, I think you do an amazing job!
Bafore I came to this area I had an M&S and Waitrose close by but I had to abandon them and have found the fruit and veg in particular in Asda to be better and cheaper than both of them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 10:19:11 am
You must have hit post at exactly the same time as I did Hollins. This has happened twice recently and my post has shot away into the wide blue yonder!.
Enough to say without typing the whole bloomin' lot out again that my post was on the same lines-- I too use the price guarantee and have had some very good coupons.
M&S Dine in for £10.00 can be lucrative if you pick and chose what you buy !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 12, 2011, 10:41:45 am
O'h dear, sorry about that. I hope it wasn't something I did.
I used to like the M&S £10 meal offer but I was put off this.
One day in M&S in Llandudno I was waiting to pay for food, huge queues!
I remembered I had forgotten to buy something. I could see what I wanted on a nearby shelf so I left my trolley and went over to get it. When I returned 30 seconds later my trolley had been moved to behind two elderly couples. I fumed behind them while I waited for them both to pay for two £10 meals each.
It has put me off them for good!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on August 12, 2011, 10:44:07 am
I currently use Quidco for any online shopping (You register and when you buy online you visit the same retailers as usual, but via a link on your chosen Quidco site. When you make a purchase, the retailer pays a commission to Quidco, who in turn gives you a cut of the money.) and have twice in the last couple of months had cashback paid into my bank amount. Some of the larger shops Tesco, B&Q and Argos (I think) are available.  Tesco's for instance pay up to 3% for some of their on-line shopping.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 11:20:05 am
Not a prob Hollins-- I know what you mean about M&S and it's queues. Grrr--it drives me nuts !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 12, 2011, 12:49:42 pm
Just heard that Iceland is closing.  Rent is 31k a month????? can't be true can it?  Mostyn's are pricing the town out if it is.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2011, 12:56:56 pm
Mostyn Champneys is owned by British Land, a property company.

http://www.britishland.com/ (http://www.britishland.com/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on August 12, 2011, 01:23:52 pm
Just heard that Iceland is closing.  Rent is 31k a month????? can't be true can it?  Mostyn's are pricing the town out if it is.

You are right. It is the most rent paid on any Iceland store in the uk.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2011, 11:46:52 pm
About 6 months ago, I posted on this Forum about price increases becoming more frequent and insidiuous.
I named the thread 'Price Inflation', and it still exists I believe.
I prattled on about crisps now being 65p a bag etc..and basic foodstuffs flying up in price.
But at the time, those who responded, basically told me I was wrong.

I am sad to see that more and more people are noticing this now, but at least I know that I'm not going mad.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2011, 11:00:31 am
 :)I have just seen an advert for a chef ,it read, we have an amazing openingat a new multi million flagship center in Llandudno.Interesting :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2011, 11:10:01 am
Where did you see that, Wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2011, 11:30:01 am
I just logged in Llandudno retail developments, hotel and it came up in a job recruitment website, sorry did not get the name,but on first page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2011, 11:33:28 am
Ah, that is referring to St Dunstans!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 13, 2011, 12:16:46 pm
About 6 months ago, I posted on this Forum about price increases becoming more frequent and insidiuous.
I named the thread 'Price Inflation', and it still exists I believe.
I prattled on about crisps now being 65p a bag etc..and basic foodstuffs flying up in price.
But at the time, those who responded, basically told me I was wrong.

I am sad to see that more and more people are noticing this now, but at least I know that I'm not going mad.

One thing that really bugs me about crisps - is that they are often below half full :o
How are they allowed to get away with this... The governments always banging on about recycling  :rage:
Surely this causes TWICE as much waste... Why do they not put in a law that says bags must be at least 80% filled or something similiar?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on August 13, 2011, 12:28:58 pm
Its something to do with your personality----bag half full or bag half empty
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on August 13, 2011, 07:34:37 pm
Case in point about crisps, Walkers used to do a big bag (100g) for 99p, they now do a 'New Bigger Bag' for 125p but sneakily it is just 115g.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 04:53:41 pm
The Next Clearance shop on Mostyn Street has closed down.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 16, 2011, 08:57:51 pm
  :) Caffe Nero advertising for a store manager for their new Llandudno store. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2011, 09:21:09 pm
  :) Caffe Nero advertising for a store manager for their new Llandudno store. ZXZ
Nice find, Wrex. I wonder where that is going to be...maybe Diskos? Would need change of use.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on August 17, 2011, 12:08:32 am
where and what was Diskos?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 17, 2011, 01:12:26 am
Diskos is an empty discount store, beside the empty formally Alworths / Woolworths store, opposite the Halifax Bank in Mostyn St.
There has been some activity inside recently, and when I enquired to lease it, I was informed over 2 months ago that it had indeed been let.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 17, 2011, 07:49:31 am
 Three choices that we know of at the moment, Jumpers, Diskos and Wades are all under offer so it could be one of those. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 09:54:43 am
 8) Trawling through the retail property pages looking at Llandudno the old Woolworths does not come up on any of the agents, me thinks this tells us its not available.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 19, 2011, 12:19:41 pm
Anyone know what is coming in to the old Jumpers shop?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2011, 07:19:39 pm
The RNLI are taking over an empty shop in St. George's Place to use as a base for their fundraising activities.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on August 25, 2011, 12:04:16 am
5 bedroom business for sale - The George & Dragon Castle Street, Conwy http://bit.ly/oRz6rd (http://bit.ly/oRz6rd)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2011, 12:08:04 am
The RNLI are taking over an empty shop in St. George's Place to use as a base for their fundraising activities.

They will be spoilt for choice, are there any in St George's Place that are not empty in fact?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2011, 11:32:23 am
Lots of good news today in the Weekly News today.

It’s expected that contracts will soon be signed for Sainsbury’s to take over the former Woolworth’s store in Mostyn Street,
Very good news for the top end of town and, indeed, the town as a whole!  $good$

furniture giant DFS is due to open in the former Halford’s unit at the Mostyn Champneys retail park early in 2012.
This has been mentioned on here before as a possibility, so good to have it confirmed.

"High street coffee shop chain Caffe Nero is currently advertising for staff,  and is believed to be moving into the current Burton’s in Mostyn Street after the clothes store’s lease expires."
Burtons lease doesnt expire until 28/9/2012, so quite a wait for it to open...unless Burtons owners Arcadia Group surrender their lease (which I hear they are quite happy to do as that shop doesnt make any money and they want to concentrate on their Parc Llandudno store)

"Budget hotel chain TraveLodge is said to be close to completing a deal to buy the derelict former Clarence Hotel in Gloddaeth Street"
This isnt really correct. Travelodge will be letting the upper floors of the renovated building from a commercial property investor - they aren't buying the building themselves. The ground floor will be let separately as three units, with the central section being the Travelodge reception. The other two ground floor units will probably be used for restaurant and bar respectively. I believe the bar has already been let.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Craigydonian on August 25, 2011, 01:19:37 pm
The RNLI are taking over an empty shop in St. George's Place to use as a base for their fundraising activities.

They will be spoilt for choice, are there any in St George's Place that are not empty in fact?

It's the former Urchins clothing store.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 25, 2011, 01:29:00 pm
It's the former Urchins clothing store

I didn't realise Liverpool fans had a store in Craig-y-Don.  ???

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2011, 01:39:56 pm
After all the speculation I only hope that at last the facts are correct !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2011, 06:30:30 pm
Looks as though Caffe Nero may offer the existing cafe operators on Mostyn Street some real competition:

"Within the top 3 branded chains Caffè Nero is ranked highest overall by Key Performance Indicators with first place in 7 out of 10 KPIs (coffee quality, atmosphere, value for money, speed of service, friendly service, food quality and cleanliness)"

I've long said that Burtons Corner would be ideal for a branded coffee shop operator - a superb location. I said on here a few weeks ago that a major coffee shop brand was interested in a prominent corner site currently in retail use but my contact thought it was Starbucks. Turned out to be Caffe Nero, which is nearly as good in my book!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 26, 2011, 11:45:03 pm
Dave, I know you are a regular patron of many coffee establishments in the Three Towns area.

I think you will find that Caffe Nero is superior to Starbucks, and that an increased amount of your disposable income and time will be spent therein.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on August 27, 2011, 07:34:18 am
if superior to Starbucks, I hope they do an equivalent of a Toffee Nut Latte  $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 09:17:52 am
An Espresso as good as Costa makes will suit me !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 10:20:20 am
I prefer Illy!    $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2011, 04:54:35 pm
I'm with Yorkie on this.  $good$

La Gatte used to make the best cappuccino in town and that was with Illy. $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 07:36:18 pm
Pdro's Cafe 101 also used Illy and the Corner Cafe in Rhos also.   Z**  Lubbly Jubbly!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 07:37:15 pm
Cafe Illy in Conwy also uses...you guessed it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 29, 2011, 12:02:55 am
Tonight, Llandudno Town Centre was rocking... (nearly) all the bars were packed, and it was great to see.

Cooneys is being rebranded as an Irish Bar, and has a re-opening night on Wednesday this week.
Only the genius that is Mick Cooney could think (or dare) to have a real life leprechaun outside the bar tonight, handing out flyers for the re-opening.
I took some pictures of the wee man,  but I'm too tired to upload them.
If any one is interested, I'll pop them on here on Monday night.... remind me.
The guy was no more than 2 feet six inches tall... and he was in the full Irish leprechaun suit.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry,  so I bought a pint instead!

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on August 29, 2011, 02:32:45 pm
Heard a rumor that Frankie & Benny's http://bit.ly/pPyPwz (http://bit.ly/pPyPwz) are taking over the unit currently occupied by Iceland in Llandudno

 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on August 29, 2011, 07:44:07 pm
its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2011, 07:15:46 am
its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
How do you mean?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2011, 11:03:25 am
I've just spoken to Caffe Nero and they intend to have their Llandudno unit open for early December.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on August 30, 2011, 01:22:16 pm
Oh, boring, boring BORING!  The Jumpers shop has become yet another mobile 'phone shop that's four in close proximity - daft.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on August 30, 2011, 07:02:40 pm
its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
How do you mean?

The fact that the rent has gone up on places, forcing companies to close stores and people to become unemployed.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2011, 12:56:51 pm
its an absolute joke, all these places goin cos of someone so greedy wantin more money!
How do you mean?

The fact that the rent has gone up on places, forcing companies to close stores and people to become unemployed.   
I did see this quote from the Pioneer:

"Llandudno Town Councillor Angie O'Grady, said: "People rely on that service, because they deliver as well. I am really saddened by this.  "I'm sure Mostyn Estates are good at getting businesses into the town and have someone on hand. I'm pretty sure it won't stay empty for too long. "

Does she realise that it has nothing whatsoever to do with Mostyn Estates?! Mostyn Champneys is a joint venture between British Land & Hercules Unit Trust.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 31, 2011, 01:39:55 pm
What more do you expect from our Councillors, intelligence?     :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on September 02, 2011, 09:37:33 pm
People don't even seem bothered that people are becoming unemployed, more bothered about where they are going to shop!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 02, 2011, 10:30:06 pm
I'm more concerne about the price hikes I am seeing, in what WAS a budget drinking chain..
I'm talking about Wetherspoons.
I have my breakfast there nearly every day whilst our kitchen has been out of action.
For some obscure reason, the prices of food have increased from anywhere between 5% and 25%.
It is the SECOND time this year that this has happened too.. an outrage.
Not only that, but surely, (in line with hotels and holiday companies) would it not make more sense to REDUCE the prices out of season?

If you compare the price of most lagers in Wetherspoons they are about 10% lower than other local pubs...
BUT... the others offer loyalty cards which reduce thiers to the same level.

When you consider the buying power that Wetherspoons have, none of this makes commercial sense to me.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 02, 2011, 10:40:51 pm
Wetherspoons margins are under severe pressure; they are trying to boost them a bit. However, cheap beer and food is the only real reason to go there (unless you enjoy watching alcoholics arguing), so they are slowly shooting themselves in the foot, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 03, 2011, 07:36:30 am
There was a hike in VAT from 17 1/2 to 20% and food prices have gone up  which I notice as I do a lot of the shopping!    WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on September 05, 2011, 07:26:04 pm
Heard today that Aldi is closing down, yet again more people becoming unemployed due to the rent increase on Mostyn Champneys!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2011, 07:33:21 pm
Heard today that Aldi is closing down, yet again more people becoming unemployed due to the rent increase on Mostyn Champneys!!
This was predicted back in March, yet Aldi denied it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2011, 10:28:12 pm
Is it true this time??

I seriously hope not.
A good friend of mine left Asda to work at Aldi,  and was only appointed about three weeks ago!!   :o :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2011, 11:04:21 pm
I have checked with my friend, who says NO information has been given to staff regarding any closure.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on September 08, 2011, 05:34:23 pm
I am not surprised if the staff don't know what's going on but I am surprised that they are considering closing as they seem to get busier and busier as time progresses. In the current economic climate more and more shoppers are discovering that Aldi have some really excellent products at very competitive prices. I think the fact that they tend not to sell many well known branded products puts people off but slowly the message is getting through.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2011, 09:41:14 pm
I don't believe that Aldi is actually closing Dave.
There has been no consulation period introduced for redundancies, and that HAS to happen under employment law.

In fact, I believe they are still recruiting for a vacancy!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2011, 09:41:55 pm
I was chatting to Wrex this morning, and we were talking about the recent swathe of new business opening announcements in Llandudno. This got me thinking....can we capitalise on this momentum to draw other expanding businesses into the town? By this, I mean we could draw up a list of chain retailers/cafes/businesses currently expanding their businesses in the UK and then email them extolling the virtues of Llandudno. An obvious base to start would be to look at Chester and see which businesses there would be suitable for Llandudno. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 08, 2011, 09:46:30 pm
Such was done with Peacocks.   They were contacted by an interested resident with the suggestion that the old Coop would be suitable as a Peacock's Store.  They acted on the suggestion and the rest is history.    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2011, 09:52:28 pm
Lets get in touch with..... La Tasca!

A fantastic tapas dining experience, it would rake it in here.

http://www.latasca.co.uk/ (http://www.latasca.co.uk/)

Mmmmmm tapas.  $dins$ $dins$

TK Maxx is another fantastic store that would do well in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 08, 2011, 10:21:14 pm
This got me thinking....can we capitalise on this momentum to draw other expanding businesses into the town? By this, I mean we could draw up a list of chain retailers/cafes/businesses currently expanding their businesses in the UK and then email them extolling the virtues of Llandudno.

A few suggestions.....
Primark
Deichmann
Dash
Disney Store
Pret a Manger
Pizza Express
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on September 08, 2011, 10:28:05 pm
I'd say Pret wouldn't open in Llandudno (not enough office workers in need of a quick lunch and they don't open in smaller towns - same with Disney really).

What I would love is a Waitrose! Next to the station is perfect! It would really help cement Llandudno as an all-round shopping experience. Asda needs a bit of competition and is not exactly high-quality fayre, especially if you want really nice food for Christmas. It has its demographic, which is fair enough though. A Waitrose also might give Marks a kick up the bum as they need to give the ground floor a badly needed makeover (there were rumours 5 years ago they would). Most of the modern Marks food halls are black and sleek and Llandudno's is one of the few that is still completely the old format.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on September 09, 2011, 12:02:11 am
IKEA! $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on September 09, 2011, 01:03:36 am
Spearmint Rhino? WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 09, 2011, 08:35:02 am
Spearmint Rhino? WWW

 L0L L0L L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on September 09, 2011, 09:46:54 am
TK Maxx is another fantastic store that would do well in Llandudno.

TK Max in Bangor is one of my favourite haunts....although saying that I haven't been for ages.  Some people are put off by the endless rails, not me I'll spend hrs in the place.  I think your right Fester a TK Max would do very well in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 09, 2011, 11:39:34 am
Spearmint Rhino? WWW

 L0L L0L L0L

There's one near to where I live. I really would like to see something different in Llandudno.  8)

But having said that, the old abattoir may be an ideal place for an establishment of that kind.

However, locals may not be happy with a load of hanging meat in Builder Street again.  :-X

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 09, 2011, 11:42:12 am
IKEA! $good$

I like IKEA.  :)

I've never bought any furniture there. I just chow down on the Swedish meatballs in the restaurant.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on September 09, 2011, 02:42:46 pm
I think there is an opportunity for a quality patisserie and coffee shop, something that makes you stop and drool in the window !
What's currently on offer doesn't come anywhere near there. Gingerbread men, iced currant buns and cakes with pink icing sugar and hundreds and thousands on them. Yuk, walk on by !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on September 09, 2011, 04:22:42 pm
I have nothing against table top dancing......no harm is done.  The problem with having such a premises in Llandudno is that most lads/men on the streets at night are local, can you imagine the problem the girlfriends/wives would have with their other half if they found out (and they would) they had been to such a venue.   :o  So I can't see it working, even if Mostyn Estates or the council agreed to the plans (which they most definitely wouldn't)  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 09, 2011, 06:34:18 pm
 ;) Llandudno is the ideal location for a bettys like they have in Harrogate,class, i just can;t believe nobody has done such a classy cafe in town. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on September 09, 2011, 07:28:10 pm
Hollins - there is already a Dash dept. within Clres in Llandudno
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2011, 08:03:42 pm
Thanks for reminding me about that. I had forgotten.
I was just trying to think about DaveR's topic about which Chester businesses would be suitable in Llandudno. They are not my own choice of shops.
I was thinking:
Disney.......young ones
Primark.......teenage ones
Dash........ older ones etc!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2011, 08:08:22 pm
I am however a huge fan of TK Maxx, Betty's and Waitrose.
What a combination.
I don't think I have ever been to a cafe anywhere that compares to Betty's.
I used to live near the Northallerton one.
I don't think they will ever move out of Yorkshire, more's the pity.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2011, 08:41:16 pm
I have nothing against table top dancing......no harm is done.  The problem with having such a premises in Llandudno is that most lads/men on the streets at night are local, can you imagine the problem the girlfriends/wives would have with their other half if they found out (and they would) they had been to such a venue.   :o  So I can't see it working, even if Mostyn Estates or the council agreed to the plans (which they most definitely wouldn't)  :-X
Hmmm...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 09, 2011, 09:29:45 pm
I've just looked at the young lady in the previous post. Then I scrolled down into related topics. There were 4, and two of them the last post was put in by me.  No one write a word after me.  So, I presume, this means one of two things. If I write something on a subject, it is so brainsmashing that no one can follow it. Or ---- its so boring that no one can be bothered to carry on. With that in mind, as far as the young lady is concerned---no comment from me.   :-X :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 09, 2011, 10:14:36 pm
;) Llandudno is the ideal location for a bettys like they have in Harrogate,class, i just can;t believe nobody has done such a classy cafe in town. ££$

A pale imitation is Badger's, in the Victoria Centre.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: gunnerboy on September 10, 2011, 04:15:34 pm
;) Llandudno is the ideal location for a bettys like they have in Harrogate,class, i just can;t believe nobody has done such a classy cafe in town. ££$

A pale imitation is Badger's, in the Victoria Centre.

when barry m set up badgers many years ago he did appear to have on eye on the bettys york / harrogate set up
the said establishment appears to be a pale imitation nowdays since it changed hands a few years ago   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 10, 2011, 04:23:29 pm
Surely this is THE place in North Wales for Afternoon Tea?

Penmaenuchaf Hall - North Wales     
Penmaenpool, Dolgellau, Gwynedd, LL40 1YB

Penmaenuchaf Hall is a splendid country house built in 1860 as a summer and sporting residence by Bolton cotton magnate James Leigh Taylor, whose heraldic crest stands above the main entrance.

The public rooms have polished oak floors and panelling, sumptuous rugs, jugs of fresh flowers and blazing log fires.The hall nestles peacefully in the foothills of the Cader Idris mountains and enjoys fine views over the Mawddach Estuary.

It is an ideal venue for Afternoon Tea if you are touring the Snowdonia National Park or the attractions of North Wales.

Gift Vouchers
Afternoon Tea for Two, £29.00
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2011, 05:46:27 pm
Looks lovely - perhaps we should have a Three Towns Forum Afternoon Tea there?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 10, 2011, 06:31:31 pm
Except by the time we all get there it will be time to come back !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 10, 2011, 06:43:18 pm
Afternoon Tea for Two, £29.00  :o :o :o How much!  :o

We usually take flasks and our own food with us when we go out, like today when we visited Penrhyn Castle  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 10, 2011, 07:31:26 pm
Looks lovely - perhaps we should have a Three Towns Forum Afternoon Tea there?

I'm sure I could negotiate a special deal if we can get a good turn out.   It could be combined with an organised "run out" in our cars and turned into a pleasant social occasion.

At £29 it is £1 cheaper than Bodygallen Hall!   ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 10, 2011, 11:51:55 pm
Yes, Mrs Fester took her Mum and Dad for afternoon tea at Bodysgallen Hall recently, (it was their golden wedding anniversary)

But this was just an incidental amongst the other bits and bobs and meals we were treating them to.

Still, there was precious little change from £100 for the three of them... it made me sweat I can tell you!

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2011, 02:02:52 pm
By Gum Lad-- It would have made me sweat blood at that price! Sorry--no can do!
I'll stick with ME and take my flask
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 11, 2011, 02:30:46 pm
Still, there was precious little change from £100 for the three of them... it made me sweat I can tell you!

I was shocked enough at the £29,  £100 is horrifying  :o :o, does not go well with being as tight as I am  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2011, 04:30:44 pm
My flabber is ghasted !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 11, 2011, 04:44:26 pm
http://www.bodysgallen.com/traditional-afternoon-tea/ (http://www.bodysgallen.com/traditional-afternoon-tea/)


Everything is relative I suppose........

http://www.claridges.co.uk/page.aspx?id=1792 (http://www.claridges.co.uk/page.aspx?id=1792)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2011, 05:19:53 pm
MMM that makes Bodysgallen seem cheap!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on September 11, 2011, 05:46:01 pm
If Bodysgallen seem's cheap we can have a Waitrose. Oh please please
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 12, 2011, 07:41:00 am
  ;DI have e-mailed WAITROSE HEADQUARTERS to tell them we have a site available next to the railway station ,so lets hope for you they have a look.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jas on September 12, 2011, 02:03:05 pm
Be careful how many Hours you spend in TKMax Pendragon, I was there a couple of weeks ago & like you lose all sense of time in there, I ended up 1min over the parking time (3hrs) & got a 75.00  fine.   I couldn't believe it & rang them, explained that between my cousin & myself we had spent over 200.00, with much more over the last 12months. They were very helpful & suggested that I write to the Parking Contractor with a copy of proof of purchase & it would be waived.I am happy to say that was ;D     I also don"t recall ever seeing a sign for parking limit, have you?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 12, 2011, 04:49:44 pm
I also don"t recall ever seeing a sign for parking limit, have you?

Should have been to Specsavers!    _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 12, 2011, 05:16:28 pm
Be careful how many Hours you spend in TKMax Pendragon, I was there a couple of weeks ago & like you lose all sense of time in there, I ended up 1min over the parking time (3hrs) & got a 75.00  fine.   I couldn't believe it & rang them, explained that between my cousin & myself we had spent over 200.00, with much more over the last 12months. They were very helpful & suggested that I write to the Parking Contractor with a copy of proof of purchase & it would be waived.I am happy to say that was ;D     I also don"t recall ever seeing a sign for parking limit, have you?

Usually they can't enforce these parking 'charges' there was a lot on BBC Watchdog about it some time ago. I still find it outrageous that DVLA sell drivers details to these parking companies  $angry$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2011, 08:37:30 am
One of the mobile phone shops in the Victoria Centre is now showing as being available in the commercial property listings.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2011, 08:46:47 am
The mobile phone shops in the VC never look busy.
On the other hand, the old Homestyle shop (near Gareth Roberts Opticians), in Mostyn St looks like it is well racked out, and not far from opening.  I hope its not just a seasonal or Xmas shop.




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2011, 10:53:05 am
A KEBAB house has been refused permission to extend its opening hours until 2am because of complaints from members of the public about noise from the premises.

And North Wales Police also objected to the application from Zak’s Kebab in Llandudno’s Upper Mostyn Street which at present has to close at midnight.

Inspector Ian Verburg commented: “The premises were recently prosecuted for selling beyond hours. The police and Licensing Department have concerns over the current running of the establishment. Views of local residents were also taken into account, and as a result, a reasoned argument was put before the magistrates who refused the extended hours application.”

No one at Zak’s was available to comment, but Peter Garwood of the Upper Mostyn Street Access Group, said businesses and residents were pleased the application had been refused.

“It will help reduce noise pollution in the early hours,” he said.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/09/15/llandudno-kebab-house-must-close-at-midnight-55243-29421941/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/09/15/llandudno-kebab-house-must-close-at-midnight-55243-29421941/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 15, 2011, 08:30:00 pm
A spokesman for Zak's said tonight...

''Which a sauce-a you want?   You wanna mint sauce-a?  You wanna chilli sauce-a,  you wanna chips anna cheese-a, or you wanna donner meat-a?''

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 16, 2011, 11:33:27 am
A spokesman for Zak's said tonight...

''Which a sauce-a you want?   You wanna mint sauce-a?  You wanna chilli sauce-a,  you wanna chips anna cheese-a, or you wanna donner meat-a?''

Sheeesh...Fester!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 16, 2011, 09:28:40 pm
Did you say Sheesh?  Or Sheek?   Your choice mate!  $drink1$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 02:18:14 am
Did you say Sheesh?  Or Sheek?   Your choice mate!  $drink1$ $dins$

I'd like to go where Kylie Minogue gets her kebabs......
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2011, 09:45:41 pm
I was sad to see that the Little Deli in Upper Mostyn Street is up for sale.

http://www.james-jackson.co.uk/properties/581920.html (http://www.james-jackson.co.uk/properties/581920.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2011, 10:00:17 pm
It has been up for sale for quite a while now hasn't it?

Emma Baravelli and her husband work very hard and long hours, it is hard to see how the business could be improved.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2011, 10:03:11 pm
It has been up for sale for quite a while now hasn't it?

Emma Baravelli and her husband work very hard and long hours, it is hard to see how the business could be improved.
It has, but they've chosen to mention it on Facebook themselves now. They are going to set up a specialist chocolate business, I believe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2011, 10:12:58 pm
Chocolate?  then why were they on the pier throwing dozens of lemons up in the air the other day, with a crew of photographers accompanying them?

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2011, 06:05:15 pm
I was in Bangor today and noticed that a branch of Republic had recently opened. They would be ideal for the old Next shop on Mostyn Street, I'd have thought?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2011, 05:14:42 pm
It appears that the old Going Places shop opposite the former Woolies has been let. The windows are now papered over and there are people working inside. Another boost for that end of town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2011, 07:53:37 pm
who is going to be first to find out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 19, 2011, 08:10:57 pm
who is going to be first to find out.

place your bets!  ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2011, 08:22:21 pm
 8)  My monies on Yorkie. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2011, 09:37:42 am
Caffe Nero have just started recruiting for a Manager for their new Llandudno branch. Salary: £19,000-£24,000 + bonus, + benefits - apply using the link below:

http://www.caterer.com/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=51317712 (http://www.caterer.com/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=51317712)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2011, 09:45:35 am
DFS have also just started recruiting for their new Llandudno store:

http://www.dfs.co.uk/careers/jobs/list/location/llandudno/ (http://www.dfs.co.uk/careers/jobs/list/location/llandudno/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2011, 07:10:12 pm
8)  My monies on Yorkie. D)
You've just lost.  :laugh: It is going to be a Red Cross charity shop. Better than being empty, I suppose! I wonder if they're getting a discount on the £50k a year rent? Don't they already have a shop on Madoc street?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 20, 2011, 09:39:21 pm
The Re>d Cross shop closed about 3 years or more ago
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2011, 07:42:15 am
Its a sad day when we are glad to see a charity shop open in Mostyn St ,but that is life coffee shops and charity shops. I never realised Bangor had such shops asd Republic and H and M ,no wonder youngsters are shopping there and ignoring the town. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 09:39:06 am
I see that the Cafe in Oriel Mostyn is now available to let. Running it in house can't have been a success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 06:07:32 pm
Beware anyone thinking to take on that particular lease, (Oriel Mostyn Cafe), Nice though it is, it is out of the way and deathly quiet.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 21, 2011, 07:08:24 pm
This cafe is to me a great waste of a lovely room with a great view. I think it is so badly managed. The last time I was there the chef and a waiter were sitting in the corner table by the window. I ordered my food at the counter and was served by a pleasant girl.
There were very few people in as usual. The table I like by the window with a view of the sea had not been cleaned properly. I asked if the floor could be brushed as it was covered in crumbs.
The male waiter was summoned with a brush and pan but made it quite obvious that he was not impressed with his task. He said, "We don't normally do this until the evening."
This just sums it up. When I think of all the money and effort that has gone in to buying the furniture and decorating the room and nobody can be bothered to keep it clean.
I must admit I was sat there thinking what Betty's could have done with the space.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 07:14:16 pm
Your last point is a very interesting one H.
If someone could summon the energy and the finances to make the Cafe an attraction in itself (a la Betty's) then there would be patrons by far than the Gallery itself.

 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 07:22:37 pm
This cafe is to me a great waste of a lovely room with a great view. I think it is so badly managed. The last time I was there the chef and a waiter were sitting in the corner table by the window. I ordered my food at the counter and was served by a pleasant girl.
There were very few people in as usual. The table I like by the window with a view of the sea had not been cleaned properly. I asked if the floor could be brushed as it was covered in crumbs.
The male waiter was summoned with a brush and pan but made it quite obvious that he was not impressed with his task. He said, "We don't normally do this until the evening."
This just sums it up. When I think of all the money and effort that has gone in to buying the furniture and decorating the room and nobody can be bothered to keep it clean.
I must admit I was sat there thinking what Betty's could have done with the space.
Your experience is the same as mine, Hollins. I found it amazing that one of the prime bay window tables (the one in the corner) had been screened off just for staff to sit at. Last time I called in, I had to go round to that table to summon a member of staff to serve me after fruitlessly waiting for a couple of minutes for someone to appear! I have to say that the menu is pretty uninspiring too.

But...with a motivated chef/staff, it could become very popular indeed, I feel, as it's a great space. They could even feature some of my photos on the walls...  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 09:49:34 pm
But very few people would ever see them Dave,
With the majority of visitors to the town being on motability scooters, zimmer frames or walking sticks, WHY would anyone choose to situate a cafe UPSTAIRS!!

This is why Badgers, Home Cooking, Cafe Culture and the rest will always prosper!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on September 21, 2011, 09:54:29 pm
anyone know what is going in the old next shop work going on there today
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 22, 2011, 05:57:01 am

They could even feature some of my photos on the walls...  ;D
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Never mind just putting your photos on the cafe walls upstairs. They should be inviting you to have an exhibition of your work downstairs. This would be of great interest to visitors and locals alike and would go some way to repay you for all you do for the town.

But very few people would ever see them Dave,
With the majority of visitors to the town being on motability scooters, zimmer frames or walking sticks, WHY would anyone choose to situate a cafe UPSTAIRS!!

This is why Badgers, Home Cooking, Cafe Culture and the rest will always prosper!

Fester, there is a lift!
I was trying to think of busy upstairs cafes........Little Betty's in York, M&S in Llandudno!

It is such a lovely room. I hope someone can make a success of it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 22, 2011, 08:07:31 am
Thanks for your kind words, Hollins. In the past, I have thought of speaking with other local photographers to see if it was worth approaching Oriel Mostyn with a view to them staging an exhibition of local photographers' work. However, I doubt our 'faces would fit'.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on September 22, 2011, 10:47:43 am
I'm still of the opinion any cafe opening in Llandudno should market itself on traditional Welsh food and local Welsh produce.  Although there are nice cafes in town they all sell similar food.   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2011, 09:09:37 pm
Talking/writing about cafes.  In other threads there has been mention of Sainsburys going into the old Woolworths.  Are they planning to have a cafe or restaurant inside?
The reason I ask is in the official notice on the door asking for permission to sell alcohol, there is also an application to serve refreshments between 11.00 p.m. and midnight.
   This doesent make a lot of sense to me, so I am just guessing that they can put a cafe inside without needing a licence, but they need a licence to operate after 11 p.m.
    Doesent make any odds to me, I doubt very much I will ever feel the need to go into a Sainsburys cafe at 11.30 at night. But I am surprised all you eagle eyed official notice readers on this forum havent queried this.







Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2011, 09:59:50 pm
We did. $good$

Sainsburys have a Alcohol Licence application on the door of Alworths.

The application for an Alcohol Licence by Sainsburys for the former Woolies site is daily from 6am – Midnight.

There is a second application to serve refreshments from 11pm – Midnight.

What is that all about?
Their application is being dealt with by a firm of solicitors down in London who will no doubt know what they are doing.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 23, 2011, 09:39:00 pm
Sorry Bri ---- I missed your post. But, what do you reckon? Do you think I'm right with my guess?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2011, 10:08:51 pm
The main Licence Application is for the sale of alcohol off the premises. There is a separate application for 'late night refreshments', which is also needed if the applicant wishes to sell any hot food or drink (not necessarily alcohol) for consumption off the premises after 11pm. There will be no cafe or bar in Sainsburys and the hours stated are standard maximums, i.e. the actual opening hours will probably be less.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 23, 2011, 10:10:32 pm
Dunno, Mike.

Maybe the answer lies here:

Their application is being dealt with by a firm of solicitors down in London who will no doubt know what they are doing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 25, 2011, 10:23:10 am
Sainsburys advertising for a store manager for Llandudno
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 25, 2011, 10:30:42 pm
Sainsburys advertising for a store manager for Llandudno

http://bit.ly/o5JqSH (http://bit.ly/o5JqSH)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 26, 2011, 08:17:30 pm
Fester and I decided to go for a pint this evening in Fountains but were surprised to find it closed. Apparently, it's been closed all day with various rumours flying around.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2011, 09:19:15 pm
So we had several pints in Fat Cat instead.....  ZXZ ZXZ and we are no wiser!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 28, 2011, 12:14:42 am
Dave R and I were invited to the Fat Cat tonight, for a special preview tasting of the Xmas menu.  $dins$

But Dave forgot about it!  Luckily, Mrs Fester made up the numbers and we were rewarded with sample after sample of superb cuisine.  The Fat Cat is usually very good, but they have pulled out all the stops this time.
Congratulations to Steve and his team, especially the chefs Dave, Dave, and Joe.  &well&

Other businesses and groups were in attendance and I hope that Fat Cats are rewarded with a high volume of bookings based on what we had tonight.
There is a Xmas meal menu, with round five choices of starter, main and suite. (in addition to the very varied usual menu)
There is also a buffet menu, for groups of 10 or more.

As I type this I am so full, its unbearable, because I sampled everything.
The highlight for me, (amongst so many) was the crispy roast pork. Lots of hot crackling included!

Of course the Xmas menu doesn't start properly until Nov 24th, but when it does, I'll be there... numerous times.

Highly recommended.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Quiggs on September 28, 2011, 01:58:11 pm
Fester, is the 'SUITE ' with the main, a Three Piece, or two?   WWW   L0L  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 28, 2011, 06:20:52 pm
DFS Sale ? _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 28, 2011, 08:08:20 pm
 :) Saw people going into Woolies today and at last they have started on DFS. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 30, 2011, 08:19:45 pm
The old Woolies has been almost completely gutted inside now, Sainsburys are not messing about.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on September 30, 2011, 09:16:41 pm
None of the 4 big grocery supermarkets waste any time in anything. Remember Asda moving in Llandudno. It took longer to knock down the old John Brights than the complete new Asda being built.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on October 01, 2011, 08:34:08 am
I think you can now forget about using Ty Isa Road as an alternative to using the prom or Mostyn Street (if yesterday morning is anything to go by). Large lorries blocking across the road both times I tried to use it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 01, 2011, 09:37:14 pm
 ;D Mr Dickens had queues outside his chippie and he was actually frying. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2011, 11:19:54 pm
;D Mr Dickens had queues outside his chippie and he was actually frying. Z**
I haven't tried his chips yet. Wonder if I'll get a free portion being as I'm such a good customer of his?  $thanx$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 02, 2011, 09:32:39 pm
;D Mr Dickens had queues outside his chippie and he was actually frying. Z**
I haven't tried his chips yet. Wonder if I'll get a free portion being as I'm such a good customer of his?  $thanx$

Ha ha... Well Dave, you are indeed a good customer of his in terms of BEER and COFFEE ... and now I can report that the Fish & Chips are not bad at all. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 03, 2011, 09:43:10 am
The Carleton had run out of food by 6pm last night-- only Jacket Potatoes left, or so I was told !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2011, 10:01:32 am
Surely they could have nipped down to Asda for some more frozen chips?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2011, 04:27:04 pm
except Asda closes at 4pm on a Sunday, DaveR.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 03, 2011, 05:38:46 pm
 Soon they can pop next door to Sainsburys. What time is a Sainsburys local allowed to stay open on a Sunday. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2011, 06:12:56 pm
Weren't they in the process of applying to stay open until midnight, seven days a week?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on October 03, 2011, 08:20:19 pm
I imagine the hours will be similar to a Spar which is often in town centres i.e.. not tied to the max Sunday trading hours imposed on out of town centres. So it could be virtually open all hours if they wish.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on October 03, 2011, 08:32:21 pm
These are the opening hours for a Sainsbury's local store in Liverpool that I've been to http://bit.ly/pJpegG (http://bit.ly/pJpegG)

Monday           0700   -    2300
Tuesday           0700   -    2300
Wednesday       0700   -    2300
Thursday           0700   -    2300
Friday           0700   -    2300
Saturday           0700   -    2200
Sunday           0700   -    2200
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2011, 12:20:04 am
The Carlton often runs out of many items on the menu... way too many for a chain pub really.
When they get it right, its very good value for the money....

The opening hours of the kitchen are very hit and miss also... closing as and when they see fit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2011, 11:25:53 am
Fat Cat launches its new menu today:
http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/media/fatcats/menu/MAIN%20MENU.pdf (http://www.fatcatcafebars.co.uk/media/fatcats/menu/MAIN%20MENU.pdf)

Mmmmm...slow cooked lamb shank!  $dins$ $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Quiggs on October 04, 2011, 01:06:06 pm
£3.95 for a bowl of soup, £9.45 Bangers and Mash ?  :o  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2011, 09:11:55 am
The Planning Application for the Clarence has been submitted, the plans have changed slightly in that a shop has now been pencilled in instead of a bar on the Bodhyfryd Road side. I believe this is intended to be another convenience store operated by a national retailer.

The Clarence Hotel  16 Gloddaeth Street Llandudno  Conwy  LL30 2DP
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Received Date : 16/09/2011
Determination Level Planning Committee
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 28/09/2011
Proposal: Regeneration of the existing hotel building comprising an extension and partial demolition,
change of use of two units at ground floor to shop and restaurant.


http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/470/appswk28.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/470/appswk28.pdf)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2011, 08:09:55 am
An interesting comment on Oscar, the figures tally with ones I was recently given.  8)

Talking big bucks,
Clarence hotel, proposal for 88 bedrooms,separate restaurant and convenience store.
Tesco long term trading partners of Travelodge sites.
Proposed spend 3.5 million having bought the property for £800,000.
Rent from travelodge to developer £3760 per room, = £312,080 per year.
Each unit £48,000 per year rent.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2011, 01:46:59 pm
Following the refusal to obtain Planning Permission for conversion to flats, the Aberhod Restaurant at Rhos On Sea has been closed and put up for sale at £625,000:

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2011, 01:53:34 pm
The 'Kings House' Takeaway in Upper Mostyn Street seems to have not been a tremendous success, as it is already up for sale at £160,000.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on October 12, 2011, 02:36:05 pm
The 'Kings House' Takeaway in Upper Mostyn Street seems to have not been a tremendous success, as it is already up for sale at £160,000.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25)

not very nice in my experiance!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on October 12, 2011, 04:14:21 pm
The 'Kings House' Takeaway in Upper Mostyn Street seems to have not been a tremendous success, as it is already up for sale at £160,000.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=760&o=25)

not very nice in my experiance!
A couple of years ago it was really nice but then they got a new chef and the food really went down hill after that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 12, 2011, 06:21:50 pm
A couple of years ago it was really nice but then they got a new chef and the food really went down hill after that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2011, 07:52:50 pm
Lots going on at the Parade Pub in Church Walks:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: The Little Deli on October 25, 2011, 08:11:10 am
Chocolate?  then why were they on the pier throwing dozens of lemons up in the air the other day, with a crew of photographers accompanying them?

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Thanks for your kind comments, we do work hard trying to make a go of the Deli. The photoshoot on the pier was because we have just won several Wales the True Taste awards, one of which was for our Lemon marmalade with Welsh gin. The idea was to have Mark juggling the lemons!!! We subsequently won Product of the year for the marmalade.

Emma
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 25, 2011, 08:20:14 am
Welcome to the Forum, Emma.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 25, 2011, 09:28:06 am
Chocolate?  then why were they on the pier throwing dozens of lemons up in the air the other day, with a crew of photographers accompanying them?

 ?{}? ?{}? ?{}?

Thanks for your kind comments, we do work hard trying to make a go of the Deli. The photoshoot on the pier was because we have just won several Wales the True Taste awards, one of which was for our Lemon marmalade with Welsh gin. The idea was to have Mark juggling the lemons!!! We subsequently won Product of the year for the marmalade.

Emma

Well done Emma, and welcome to The Forum.... stick around, if you are not too busy!
Mmm, Lemon Marmalade.... well, I love your fudges, and your bacon cheeseburgers at Extravaganza time, so I think I'm going to like that too!   $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on October 25, 2011, 08:05:17 pm
Emma I've left a message on IM
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 27, 2011, 08:55:03 pm
I see Cafe Culture have a full page ad in the Weekly News, with some special offers in. A pre-emptive strike against the soon to be arriving Caffe Nero possibly? Perhaps they could consider a loyalty card for regular customers as well - Caffe Nero have one whereby your every tenth coffee is free:

http://realbusiness.co.uk/news/caffandegrave_neroandrsquos_got_a_whole_latte_love (http://realbusiness.co.uk/news/caffandegrave_neroandrsquos_got_a_whole_latte_love)

 ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 31, 2011, 06:42:23 pm
Wales the True Taste: Food and Drink Awards 2011 - 2012 Food and Drink Awards 2010 - 2011

Lamb
Cig Mynydd Cymru
GOLD - Rack of Welsh Lamb

Contact - Steve Davies

Ah - now we know!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2011, 09:03:29 am
A FAST food takeaway was so dirty and had no hot water in two sinks, that it was at risk of a bacteria which could have killed customers.

Hygiene officials feared there was a risk of “pathogenic bacteria creating life threatening illness”, at Charcoal Grill in Old Colwyn.

Yesterday the takeaway’s owner Cuma Ali Tahsin, 38, was prosecuted for seven hygiene and administrative offences.

He was fined £1,700 and ordered to pay £700 costs and a £15 victim surcharge, by Magistrates in Llandudno. Environmental health staff at Conwy council became aware of possible problems and inspected the premises on Abergele Road in March, the court heard.


They found there was no hot running water in the hand basin nor in a double sink in the cellar used for washing up and food washing, among other offences.

Prosecutor Stuart Dunn said food handlers were unable to wash their hands in hot water after handling raw meat. He said this “could have caused pathogenic bacteria that could cause severe or life-threatening illness”. There was also a dirty floor and an “odour of sewage” from a drain, and the owner shut up shop after being told it was unfit for purpose.

The premises re-opened and have been clean since then. But father of three Tahsin is considering selling up anyway because the business is “not lucrative”.

Mr Tahsin admitted all seven charges which took place on or before March 31. Defence barrister Sarah Morgan said Tahsin, who took over the business in January, fixed the problems within four days.

Chairman of the bench Jim Barry said they were serious offences.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/11/02/north-wales-takeaway-boss-risked-lives-55578-29702830/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/11/02/north-wales-takeaway-boss-risked-lives-55578-29702830/)


Anyone familiar with Old Colwyn will remember these premises as being the site for many years of the Treleaven Jones Bakery - standards of cleanliness were a lot higher back in those days!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 03, 2011, 09:04:06 pm
 The Parade looks quite nice, anyone know when it poens. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 03, 2011, 09:36:26 pm
Tomorrow night, Friday 4th I believe.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 05, 2011, 03:40:06 pm
Following the refusal to obtain Planning Permission for conversion to flats, the Aberhod Restaurant at Rhos On Sea has been closed and put up for sale at £625,000:

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=759&o=1)
The Aberhod on Rhos Prom has finally closed, all signage has been removed from the building. I still think its an excellent opportunity for a good restaurant or even a food led pub.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: emma p on November 05, 2011, 07:12:54 pm
Hi all,
can anyone recommend any nice dog friendly pubs in Llandudno please ?
Cheers
 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2011, 05:24:20 pm
 hi emma try the snowden, always seems to be a few dogs outside when i go past,not sure if they allow them in .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2011, 03:18:07 pm
Work has started today to convert the former Burtons store into Caffe Nero.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 10, 2011, 03:03:17 pm
Work has started today to convert the former Burtons store into Caffe Nero.

Nothing left, but great piles of timber now-- my poor Dad in Law will be turning in his grave.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2011, 09:36:25 pm
Work has started today to convert the former Burtons store into Caffe Nero.

Nothing left, but great piles of timber now-- my poor Dad in Law will be turning in his grave.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on November 10, 2011, 09:46:27 pm
Walking past it this morning it's amazing how much bigger that window looks now all the Burton interior has been stripped out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2011, 10:22:57 am
Walking past it this morning it's amazing how much bigger that window looks now all the Burton interior has been stripped out.
I was saying to Fester yesterday that it looks quite small for a Caffe Nero and was wondering if they plan to use the first floor as well?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2011, 05:12:24 pm
There was a lot of work going on upstairs at the new Cafe Nero site today - are they planning to make it a 2 floor cafe?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2011, 08:08:52 pm
Never been upstairs but should imagine with how small it is downstairs they must be, they will need a good window scraper though there are a few layers of paint on those. :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2011, 10:19:28 pm
...there are a few layers of paint on those. :laugh:
Very true! Possibly easier just to reglaze all the windows. :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 17, 2011, 08:01:14 pm
From Club 147s Facebook

"New Bar Opening soon...Upper Mostyn Street is the place to be this winter!"

I presume this is another re branding of the white hole that is currently called the Gresham.

The bar has been a hollow shell of it's self for years, can't see Club 147 yet again 'trending' it up is gonna make a huge difference. There is clearly a demand for a real traditionalist pub in upper Mostyn Street, as proved by how well the London does in the Summer, even with high priced alcohol (£4 plus a double)

A budget version of the London - with live music I'm sure would be a winner  ZXZ

Never gonna happen though!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 28, 2011, 11:37:30 pm
Often we see rave reviews on this thread, for several eateries in Llandudno.
However, I think it is important that we have a balance, and if we are less than enamoured with any experience then we should share that with fellow forum mebers too.

Such is the case with my visit to The Mostyn Cafe, (Mostyn St, Llandudno) it is upstairs beside the Town House public house.

Dave R and I had been in there a few months ago and had a very decent snack, and that was reported favourably on here. Not so today.
I must point out before I continue that Mrs Fester thoroughly enjoyed her food, and gave it 9 out of 10.

I was attracted in by a sign that offered Jacket Spuds, with a variety of fillings for £2.75.
But, only 2 feet from it was another chalk board which confusingly offered the same meal, but at £3.90???

Undaunted, I went in to query it, and order it... but was dismayed to find that they actually didn't have any jacket spuds.
So, I plumped for the Cheese/Ham toastie that I had with Dave and enjoyed in the past.
I asked for it to have onions too, and the waiter jotted it down.

This time however, it looked decidedly less full of cheese, the slice of processed ham was a lukewarm and unappetising specimen.  And...no onion!!!
So, when I mentioned it to the waiter,at first he didn't believe me.... and then trotted off to the kitchen and returned with a mushed up bowl of boiled onions.  Not what was required at al.
He eventually returned with some raw onion, (which I stuffed inside the toastie) but it then fell apart as it was so dry from its lack of cheese.

Sadly, I will be avoiding The Mostyn Cafe in future.
I did hear other diners saying that their meals were very nice however, to be entirely fair.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on November 29, 2011, 08:03:03 pm
The Primark rumour somebody mentioned a few weeks has surfaced again even though Iceland have said they are staying, watch this space. :P

Apparently Iceland is only open for another 5years
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2011, 05:45:57 pm
I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on December 04, 2011, 06:38:34 pm
sorry to hear that about the 55 diner
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on December 04, 2011, 09:53:52 pm
I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.

The breakfasts there were really nice.  Went past a few weeks ago and was really gutted about it.  Only went there in October
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2011, 05:53:46 pm
I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.

The breakfasts there were really nice.  Went past a few weeks ago and was really gutted about it.  Only went there in October
Yes, always enjoyed my meal there. Such a shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2011, 06:00:46 pm
I understand that work on Caffe Nero has stopped whilst the situation regarding Planning Permission is clarified.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2011, 08:36:45 pm
Cafe 101 at Penrhryn Bay has been overhauled since being sold but has not yet opened as the fish and chip shop we were told about.  Now there seems to be fairly extensive alterations (for a small property) going on at the side.  Looks like foundations for an extension.  I'll watch progress. 
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 07, 2011, 08:05:26 am
Sainsburys and Cafe Nero both being held up by CCBC ,no surprise i suppose.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2011, 11:01:49 am
Caffe Nero planning permission:

81 Mostyn Street Llandudno Conwy LL30 2PD
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Advertisement
Received Date : 23/11/2011
Determination Level Delegated
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 07/12/2011
Team: Minor Applications Team
Proposal: Display of 2 no. halo illuminated 'Caffe Nero' letter fascia signs, 1 no. halo illuminated logo
fascia sign and 5 no. non illuminated awning advertisements
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 14, 2011, 03:54:53 pm
Anyone know if CCBC turned the Clarence down today as recommended.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2011, 05:29:19 pm
Read Oscar
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 14, 2011, 06:02:30 pm
On Oscar someone has put on that it has been passed this afternoon, i do hope this is correct and one less eyesore to look at.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2011, 10:14:35 pm
I believe the overall benefits of the scheme took precedence over the few drawbacks, some of which will be ironed out in negotiations with CCBC officers anyway.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 16, 2011, 08:30:52 am
On the Welsh news last nite they showed how Wrexham were coping with the high st problem, they have a town center manager and they have introduced free parking from midday.I know the town center manager was talked about but never followed up. ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on December 16, 2011, 08:50:13 am
I was in the centre of Wrexham on Wednesday late afternoon/early evening and, considering it was so close to Christmas,  it was eerily quiet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 16, 2011, 09:02:39 am
Drove through town last night on my way to the joint Hospices Carol Service expecting to have problems parking due to late night shopping. I could have parked anywhere !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 16, 2011, 11:32:25 am
Gone are the days when the town council do anything for the late nite shopping ,but they should have bands on doing xmas carols during the weekends but i ain;t going there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 17, 2011, 01:13:08 pm
There is no Christmas spirit in town apart from the Rotary collecting and the big issue seller with his xmas hat on ,now i know people on this forum must be sick of hearing me go on but unless this council pulls its finger out put some enterainment on spruce up the town and attract more people WE Will miss out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 17, 2011, 02:07:58 pm
Amnesty International are singing carols by Boots opticians and there is also some sort of 'Christmas Noise' going on by Greenwoods.
The lady with the organ and the pug dog was playing carols in the old Diskos doorway.
This was today at about 1.30ish.
M&S looked like a bunfight--didn't go down that road-- but they were dishing out bits of broken up biscuit yesterday !!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 17, 2011, 04:00:24 pm
There is no Christmas spirit in town apart from the Rotary collecting and the big issue seller with his xmas hat on ,now i know people on this forum must be sick of hearing me go on but unless this council pulls its finger out put some enterainment on spruce up the town and attract more people WE Will miss out.

Over the past year you have drawn to our attention many of the shortcomings of the present Town Council.   In 2012 you will be able to do something constructive about the situation.  You can put yourself up for Election to the Town (or even County) Council and if elected, you will be in a position to do something positive about it.    ;)

I am certainly thinking of standing but at my age I may be considered just another old fogey who wants something to do in his spare time - we shall have to wait and see!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 17, 2011, 04:44:49 pm
Yorkie you know when i was there i tried with no success ,they just ain;t interested.Their attitude is WHY should we do anything to help Llandudno at xmas.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 17, 2011, 05:19:01 pm
No comment Wrex !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 17, 2011, 05:28:43 pm
Yorkie you know when i was there i tried with no success ,they just ain;t interested.Their attitude is WHY should we do anything to help Llandudno at xmas.

Ah!   But if we both get elected that would be c 18% so we would only have to get another 82% on our side and - VOILE - everything will change!............ ZXZ

Won't it??????    :D

Then there is a possibilty of Ian Turner and Ruby W,  and maybe a few others from this Forum - who knows we could even finish up with a Three Towns Council in a coalition with Oscar!    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 17, 2011, 06:33:48 pm
I think it would be excellent to have two such erudite and challenging Forum members as Wrex and Yorkie on the Town Council in Llandudno.

I encourage you both, and maybe others, to put yourselves forward, and I would support you in any way I can.

How good it would be to have a voice (albeit indirectly) on the Council from this Forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 18, 2011, 07:44:21 am
Not until the conservatives of this town vote for the candidate and not the party we have no chance,they would vote for the big issue seller if he had a blue rosset on so we are stuck with whoever JFS can convince to stand and no im not turning blue even for the town;s sake.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2011, 09:24:52 am
You have to be very careful if they invite you to run with them.   One year J F-S asked me to run with her in  one Ward where I intended standing as an Independant.   I chose to accept her offer, not because I was blue but because I was green = so bloody green that when it came to getting the canvassing under way I was suddenly dropped.  So out went one of the blue's main competition!

It was then a bit late to get my leaflets done, delivered and do some canvassing, so needless to say I did not get in.   Nice trick Janet!   I wouldn't give her the **** from my **** now!    WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2011, 12:27:30 pm
Perhaps you should campaign under the Plaid Cymru banner?

It seems to be full of members that are not Welsh by birth?

A bit like Abdul Patel campaigning for the BNP in my view.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2011, 12:59:47 pm
Is that the sound of a can of worms being opened?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 18, 2011, 01:56:03 pm
Is that the sound of a can of worms being opened?

An extra large can!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2011, 04:13:53 pm
Is that the sound of a can of worms being opened?

Yes a can of worms.

An extra large can!

And -yes a very large can!    _))*    _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 18, 2011, 09:26:53 pm
Spent a nice day in Chester and it was very festive,now i know we cannot compare Llandudno;s shopping with Chester but there is no need to keep the town center void of xmas cheer.There was a xmas market in front of their town hall with a few rides for the children,this could easily be done around Bog Island with a little thought.The trees around bog island could all be lite up just like Junction roundabout with a little THOUGHT.Mostyn St could be brought to life with a carol singers, brass bands and some lights with a little THOUGHT.Sitting empty on Mostyn Broadway right in the heartof the shopping area is a large piece of tarmac[coach park] that should be used as a car park over the festive period,with a little thought, ok there is a cost but all these points would enhance the town if the council could just have a little,pride,will,enthusiasum and a little thought.  ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2011, 11:35:13 pm
Its not just the Town Council that can take such initiatives...

For example, the Pier Company could organise a weekend of market stalls, craft stalls, a Xmas themed event... and even have a Santa's Grotto at the end of the pier.
If advertised properly, it would certainly generate interest and much needed income at this time of the year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2011, 07:44:32 am
Its not just the Town Council that can take such initiatives...

For example, the Pier Company could organise a weekend of market stalls, craft stalls, a Xmas themed event... and even have a Santa's Grotto at the end of the pier.
If advertised properly, it would certainly generate interest and much needed income at this time of the year.

Probably too much risk of bad weather closing the pier this time of year sadly  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2011, 08:07:31 am
Quote
Mostyn St could be brought to life with a carol singers, brass bands and some lights with a little THOUGHT.

Often wondered about that.  It would rely on voluntary groups being organised enough to do it, but certainly they could under the copious awnings around the street.  Ideally, they would have to pedestrianise, albeit temporarily, the section of Mostyn St to be used, but it could work.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 19, 2011, 10:44:15 am
There seems little incentive for volunteer groups to provide entertainment.  I'm sure they would first of all like to see some initiative from the Council before they would give support - I know I would!   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 19, 2011, 01:37:46 pm
 We vote the councillors in so they can look after the town,unfortunatly there is no will on their part  to show any incentives to anybody
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on December 22, 2011, 01:01:09 pm
The old National Milk Bar is being painted.  Anyone know if it has been let or is it just the land lord trying to get someone to rent it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 07:31:50 pm
The old National Milk Bar is being painted.  Anyone know if it has been let or is it just the land lord trying to get someone to rent it?
72 Mostyn Street (Burger King as it was last) has been sold to a local businessman with a strong Conwy connection...  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 07:42:42 pm
It was also a Wimpy before Burger King following life as a National Milk Bar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 07:50:08 pm
Wasn't there also a Wimpy at the bottom end of Mostyn Street at one time?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 07:53:42 pm
I think you may be right.

Where exactly I can't remember.

National Milk Bars have owned that property for a very long time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 08:01:06 pm
I think it may have been where the Pebble chip shop is now?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 09:00:27 pm
I thought it was in that vicinity.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 24, 2011, 12:58:59 pm
and the second letter is?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on December 27, 2011, 08:33:31 pm
The Mulberry on Conwy Marina are charging £30 a head for New Years Eve http://bit.ly/rUuwpF (http://bit.ly/rUuwpF) ouch!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 08:20:16 am
The Mulberry on Conwy Marina are charging £30 a head for New Years Eve http://bit.ly/rUuwpF (http://bit.ly/rUuwpF) ouch!

Ah!  But the rest of the body goes free!     _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2011, 01:05:28 pm
Do we know the restaurant chain that is going under theTravelodge.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on December 28, 2011, 05:05:19 pm
 >>> Is my memory finally shattering in smithereens or was the National Milk Bar originally between Marks & Sparks and St John's church?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2011, 06:52:05 pm
>>> Is my memory finally shattering in smithereens or was the National Milk Bar originally between Marks & Sparks and St John's church?

I used to go to the National Milk Bar with the lads from Cwm Place but the only location I can remember it was by the old Princes Cinema in Mostyn Street.  That was about 53 years ago.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2011, 07:13:59 pm
Do we know the restaurant chain that is going under theTravelodge.
It might not cost a lot to go there....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 29, 2011, 09:40:05 am
THE Welsh Government would back plans by David Cameron for a minimum price for alcohol.

The Prime Minister will overrule Cabinet colleagues to push through plans setting a 40-50p unit floor price in English shops and supermarkets, the Daily Telegaph reported yesterday.

The move is expected to cost drinkers an extra £700m a year and the tax could go to the NHS.

Minimum pricing has the biggest impact on the cheapest and strongest drinks. Leading academics and health experts claimed the move would save thousands of lives.

A Whitehall source told the newspaper: “The Prime Minister has decided that when it comes to alcohol, something pretty radical now has to be done and he is keen on the minimum price. It is complicated how this can be delivered, particularly under European law, but it is clear that the voluntary approach has not worked.”

A Welsh Government spokesperson said: “We would like to see a minimum price per unit of alcohol introduced in Wales. While we believe that the case for the introduction of a minimum price remains strong, the power to introduce such measures in Wales lie with the UK Government. We requested power to legislate on alcohol licensing but this was rejected by the UK Government. This would have enabled us to take action to introduce our own controls.”

First Minister Carwyn Jones said last month: “If you have different prices either side of the border, people will just cross the border to buy alcohol on the other side. It would be far more effective if the same policy were to be adopted in England, Scotland and Wales.”

The cost of alcohol disease is around £70-85m a year to NHS Wales and 1,000 deaths.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/12/29/welsh-government-backing-for-minimum-price-for-alcohol-55578-30026700/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/12/29/welsh-government-backing-for-minimum-price-for-alcohol-55578-30026700/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on December 29, 2011, 12:07:32 pm
The National Milk Bar back in the 50's and 60's was where the empty shop next to the Word is now.  We thought we were frightfully sophisticated going to "the Nash for a  coff" when we were in the 4th form!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 29, 2011, 01:06:48 pm
That's the place Llechwedd, in the 60's we had a rivalry with the Venezia Coffee Bar and in the Winter of 1963 we rolled a giant snowball into the Venezia.
It was massive and took about 7 of us to push it and it blocked the glass doors to the coffee bar.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on December 29, 2011, 08:33:53 pm
we used to go in the local milk bar in brynteg, glass of milk shake and a threepenny bit in the juke box or you could put a tanner in and get three plays. mid 50s
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 02, 2012, 02:27:57 pm
Llandudno is really busy with people today, just as busy as a Summer's day in fact. Yet quite a few of the smaller cafes and shops are closed - will these be the same businesses complaining about poor trading later this year, I wonder?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2012, 11:54:46 am
Roadside restaurant chain Little Chef has confirmed it is closing 67 of its 161 outlets, resulting in the loss of up to 600 jobs.

Bosses broke the news to staff across the UK on Wednesday. Almost a third of the workforce will be cut while less than 100 branches will remain open. The troubled restaurant chain fell into administration in 2007 but it was saved by private equity firm RCapital. The turnaround group bought the majority of the business and assets - saving 193 of the 235 restaurants, and more than 3,500 jobs. In 2008 Michelin-starred chef Heston Blumenthal was hired to try and revive the business but so far his menu is available in only ten Little Chef restaurants.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 11, 2012, 12:47:44 pm
Little Chef, another outmoded business model.
Serving very average and unimaginative fodder at ludicrous high prices.

Wherever you see a Little Chef, a KFC or McDonalds is close by... and hoovering up all the trade.

In the 70's, if you were on a long jouney, you had little option but to stop and have a Little Chef meal.
But as more and more choice became available, Little Chef stood still.... and eventual closure is the price they will pay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on January 11, 2012, 02:18:50 pm
I agree with Fester, it is many years since I have set foot in one, but I well remember the poor menu and very high prices.  As he said, in those days there was little option, but I would rather go hungry than pay their prices for a small uninteresting meal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 11, 2012, 02:22:55 pm
We stopped going in them many years ago, vastly overpriced and rubber mushrooms!  For many years now we take our own food and drink with us when we go out for the day  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2012, 11:20:32 pm
For a chain that had a reputation for high prices (its not nicknamed the 'Little Thief' for nothing), Little Chef suffered from lack of consistency in its food offering. You could go to one, have a decent enough if pricey meal with good service, then go to another one for a similar meal and receive both very poor food and service. If you charge a premium price, you have to deliver a premium offering on a consistent basis or people will go elsewhere. The Heston Blumenthal rebranded Little Chefs are very good but most of the others are tired and struggling.

I'm sorry to see them struggling, a visit there was always regarded as a treat when I was a kid and they are a bit of a British icon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on January 12, 2012, 01:54:15 am
Not totally related but my one abiding memory of going to a Little Chef was in 1998  near Newbury on the way to a family holiday in France. The only reason I can remember it was the headline in the red top newspaper when we were having breakfast in there. It was the day after George Michael was arrested for looking for company in a a gents toilets and the infamous headline of "Zip me up before you go go".  Strange how some things stick in your mind!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2012, 11:32:54 am
STAFF at one of the country’s top cafe bar chains are in high spirits.

The Fat Cat group celebrates its 20th anniversary on Friday, having started the brand in North Wales on January 20 1992.

The Derby-based company, which has premises in Llandudno, Wrexham and Chester, opened its first bar in Bangor.

The Gwynedd venue was the first of 14 bars and restaurants and opened in its original location on the high street.

Managing director Matt Saunders and financial director Simon Patterson resided above the bar during its first years before expanding to Chester and Nottingham.

To celebrate this landmark achievement, the Fat Cat is holding a 20th birthday party on Friday at its Derby base, though every branch will be celebrating with offers and music from the early 1990s.

Matt told Business Post: “We have seen enormous changes within the pub and restaurant sector as well as the economy as a whole over the past 20 years.

“During this time both the business and the Fat Cat brand has evolved enormously to become the entity that it is today, whilst staying true to its core values of serving great food and drink at good value for money in a stylish and safe environment.”

Since 1992 the firm has opened further sites in London, the Midlands, across Wales and the north west.

“During 2007 a number of our sites underwent refits in order maintain the high standards,” added Matt.

“Over a period of two years during 2010/11 an additional six sites received substantial investment in both customer areas and back of house.

“The Fat Cat has been at the forefront of radical changes to the pub industry, constantly innovating in order to satisfy increasingly sophisticated customer demands for food and drink and the atmosphere in which to enjoy it. The big brewers are now also introducing well-executed concepts within the sector, making the industry a most exciting one to be a part of, both as a customer and an operator.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business-news/business-news/2012/01/18/cafe-bar-group-celebrates-20-years-at-the-top-55578-30144728/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business-news/business-news/2012/01/18/cafe-bar-group-celebrates-20-years-at-the-top-55578-30144728/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 19, 2012, 10:44:05 am
http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/01/19/the-albion-pub-in-conwy-set-to-reopen-in-early-february-55243-30151085/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/01/19/the-albion-pub-in-conwy-set-to-reopen-in-early-february-55243-30151085/)

Specially for Pendragon !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2012, 11:21:22 am
The Albion was looking good last Saturday  :)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0218.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 19, 2012, 12:57:36 pm
Word has reached me that the 'list of issues' which were preventing the opening of Caffe Nero has now been progressed 'very smoothly.'  It was quite an extensive list apparently.

No further obstacles are anticipated, but as yet still no firm date has been given for opening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2012, 01:05:18 pm
Word has reached me that the 'list of issues' which were preventing the opening of Caffe Nero has now been progressed 'very smoothly.'  It was quite an extensive list apparently.

No further obstacles are anticipated, but as yet still no firm date has been given for opening.
A revised Planning Application has just been submitted:

Location: 81 Mostyn St Llandudno Conwy LL30 2PD
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Received Date : 22/11/2011
Determination Level Delegated
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 12/01/2012
Team: Major Applications Team
Proposal: Listed Building Consent to make good existing shopfront, fix new signage and shopfit interior.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 20, 2012, 02:15:29 pm
Lights on and building activity under way again in Caffe Nero today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on January 20, 2012, 05:12:33 pm
Where is this Caffee Nero that keeps being mentioned on here?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2012, 05:15:46 pm
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6034/6250595097_ed93e91d92_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6250595097/)
Gone For A Burton (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6250595097/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 20, 2012, 05:18:07 pm
Paddy.... that picture from Dave was your answer by the way!  In case you were wondering.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on January 23, 2012, 03:35:22 pm
Lights on and building activity under way again in Caffe Nero today.
Just been down there, no activity/lights at all, what has been done is the installation of large boards around what was the entrance. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2012, 05:15:28 pm
Planning Permission has not yet been granted, so maybe Fester saw some work being carried out in connection with the small shop next door that is also being refurbished.

There were workmen in both Diskos and Hoosons today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2012, 07:10:01 pm
What I saw in Caffe Nero was about four blokes in high-vis jackets, doing something under arc-lights.

Strangely though, they were not there long, and I have not seen any activity since.
Maybe they were assessing work to date / surveying the next stage?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2012, 10:53:29 am
That's interesting, Sara, thanks for sharing.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 29, 2012, 09:51:03 pm
Tonight Mrs Fester and I had a very pleasant meal at Home Cookin', in Upper Mostryn Street.

I have never before had a full meal there, just a breakfast a few years ago.
Nevertheless, I often see patient queues waiting outside, so I expected that it would be OK at least.

I was never quite sure if Home Cookin' was a restaurant or a posh cafe, but now I have decided that it is a Bistro.

It didn't disappoint.  We both went for identical choices so the review is pretty straightforward.

Starter was natural smoked haddock, with a soft poached egg...and the trimmings.  Very tasty indeed.

We both went to for the 'top of the bill', Sirloin Steak, Peppercorn Sauce, mushroom, tomato etc... just perfect.

A couple of bottles of house white wine, and a slice of chocolate fudge cake with ice cream... a perfect way to round off.

We will definitely be back to Home Cookin', as the quality is excellent, and the prices were on average £5 for a starter and £8 for a main course (not the Sirloin Steal obviously) ....  very much affordable for such good fayre and pleasant atmosphere.  $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 29, 2012, 10:41:32 pm
Sounds good, do they do vegetarian food?

We had lunch out yesterday in Conwy a very pleasant  tuna melt toasted sandwich, very tasty at the Pen y Bryn tea rooms, well worth a visit $dins$

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0576.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2012, 04:44:02 pm
Your meal at Home Cookin sound really nice Fester and I'm glad you enjoyed it.  We've been there a few times and always had a nice meal but we tend to go more to their other place in Penrhyn Bay called Home from Home Cookin.  It's very good and they have a delicious menu lined up for Valentine's night.   It's so good there that I feel sorry for any other cafe/ bistro business setting up in Penrhyn Bay, they'll find stiff competition with Home  from Home Cookin
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on January 30, 2012, 04:48:12 pm
We are well blessed with so many good eateries to suit all tastes and pockets.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2012, 04:56:09 pm
We are well blessed with so many good eateries to suit all tastes and pockets.

You're right Cambrian, we've also booked for the Thai Restaurant called "Sixth Sense" in Deganwy and will book for the  Watson's Bistro in Conwy as we've had good reports about both of them.     $dins$       
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on January 30, 2012, 05:16:18 pm
Prompted by Hugo's comment re Home Cookin, I had a look at the Food Standard Agency's website which gives details of the food hygiene standard ratings - commonly known as "Scores on the Doors".  Readers can find this on http://ratings.food.gov.uk (http://ratings.food.gov.uk)
You can put in "Llandudno" (or whatever) and up comes all the relevant establishments with their scores from 1 to 5.  Some very interesting results for one or two of our hotels and restaurants.  Don't worry Hugo, Home Cooking got a 5!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 30, 2012, 05:24:48 pm
It's also in our Useful Links (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,325.0.html) page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 30, 2012, 06:08:18 pm
We have eaten in Home from Home (Penrhyn Bay) before too.
But I find that the dining experience in the Llandudno branch is superior.
Penryhn Bay one is a little bright and less comfortable IMHO.

But both are excellent and offer first class food for reasonable prices.

We will be back to both of them!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 30, 2012, 06:09:56 pm
where we had lunch yesterday only scored 2, improvement needed  :o  No panic though we have no ill effects, I won't name it but it was a free lunch in Porthmadog, no great surprise to me really!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 30, 2012, 07:10:14 pm
the food can be lovely , BUT if your bookwork is not up to date thats where you lose on the scores
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2012, 07:34:15 pm
Work seems to be well underway again on Caffe Nero, there were workmen painting the outside today and lots going on inside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 30, 2012, 07:46:48 pm
DAVE WHATS GOING IN THE SHOP NEXT TO JD, WORKMEN IN THEIR TODAY, HOPE FESTER DID,NT HAVE TO WAIT LONG IN THE PUB FOR YOU LOL
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2012, 08:40:59 am
The Pioneer thinks Caffe Nero will be open by mid February.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2012, 06:03:28 pm
Caffee Nero's marketing department say they expect to open mid to late February but can't give a definite date yet.
I was looking at Caffe Nero today and could see that work is well advanced inside, with the counter in place and the first fix of the electrics completed. I was also pleased to see that they have stripped the paint off the window frames and little round ventilators to reveal the polished brass underneath - good to see them making the effort to do a good job.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 06:11:04 pm
I also noticed today that all the paint has been cleaned from the first floor windows above Caffe Nero, it seems that they are intending to use it as an additional seating area. What with the ground floor, first floor and the large number of tables they intend to have outside, it will certainly be pulling custom from the other coffee shops.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 05, 2012, 06:51:15 pm
DaveR, will Caffe Nero be allowed to put tables and chairs outside

If so, from your knowledge will they be in or out of the sunshine for most of the day?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 07:07:36 pm
Bri, you've picked the right man to ask about sitting outside cafes in the sunshine!  :laugh:

On the Mostyn Street side, they own the pavement up to the edge of where the canopy would have been (same curtilage as H Samuel next door). On the St Georges Place side, they own the pavement right up to the Phone box  and along to the empty shop next door - a considerable area! On a Summer's day, both frontages of Caffe Nero will be in sunshine for most of the afternoon, with the Mostyn St side getting the sunshine for longest.

They're going to be raking it in...

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 05, 2012, 07:56:25 pm
What a shame we didn't think about that first? $sunny$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 08:06:04 pm
What a shame we didn't think about that first? $sunny$
Indeed...  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 08:11:03 pm
You've reminded me that I, erm, just happened to have the Land Registry Record for the Caffe Nero site - its shows the extent of pavement area that they can put their tables out on (ignore the bit outside the small shop next door though):
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2012, 10:55:55 am
Agreed. Burtons always felt like a pokey little shop for such a prominent location.

I'm encouraged by the attention to detail that Caffe Nero are showing so far to the design of their premises.
 
Here's an article that details some of their pricing as of Sept last year:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/poll/2011/sep/23/store-wars-caffe-nero-starbucks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/poll/2011/sep/23/store-wars-caffe-nero-starbucks)

One thing that is interesting is their Reward Scheme - Buy 9 coffees and get the 10th free.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 06, 2012, 04:46:27 pm
That just leaves Travelodge to begin,then we hope somebody comes in for the Tudno Castle now its up for sale.the station is still a  way of being sorted but you never know it may be this year.Whopeeeeee.No i will not go as far as saying the town council will put xmas lights up because that will be going too far.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 09:04:01 am
Work will be commencing on the Clarence Hotel conversion into a Travelodge in 2 weeks time if CCBC pull their finger out and get the planning paperwork sorted.. Work will take approx one year to complete.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2012, 04:51:51 pm
Caffe Nero are now advertising for staff:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 09, 2012, 05:29:13 pm
Cash Converters advertising for a manager in Llandudno,not sure if they mean Colwyn Bsy or they are opening a store in town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 10, 2012, 05:02:30 pm
We had lunch today at the Kinmel Arms, very nice but what a shame that they have had their view completely blocked by a huge newly built house right in front of it. There must be a tale to tell here. All one side of the new property is boarded up front and back and looks a real eyesore.
Parked next to a very nice looking Maserati with a red leather interior.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2012, 06:29:50 pm
Never been to the Kinmel Arms but heard good things about it. That little stub of a road its on used to be a public road that carried on and joined up with the back road to St Asaph until the Estate Owner blocked it off when Kinmel Hall was built. Couldn't possibly have ordinary people travelling through the Estate!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on February 10, 2012, 06:44:07 pm
The house in front of the Kinmel Arms is old house that has been extended http://g.co/maps/ztrtf (http://g.co/maps/ztrtf)
The work has been going on for years
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 11, 2012, 12:24:23 am
Mrs Fester and I had a meal in The Kinmel Arms about 18 months ago, it is a superb pub with beautiful features.
The food was excellent, but a bit pricey to be a regular thing.

Our table looked out at the building site which you photograph clearly depicts.  We couldn't believe that planning permission was granted for it.   Maybe it wasn't?
I am sure that no progress has been made in the last 18 months.
Get Dean Seager on the job, he'll get it finished.  :)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 11, 2012, 10:18:07 am
The Kinmel Arms has changed hands many times over the last 30 years and I may have mixed up some of the ex owners. I haven't seen this "new" bit of building, but I imagine it is an extension to the original house built around 1977 by the owners of the Kinmel Arms at that time, a mr Frazier and his wife Dorcis. Mr Frazier was from Birmingham, the eldest brother of three men, Clifford owning inter leisure camp in Towyn assisted by Geoffrey.
Prior to this house being built, Harry Swallow was the landlord and he had an aviary on part of the grounds. Harry Swallow, another real Rhyl style entrepreneur already ran the Palace Hotel in Rhyl.
After that, in quick succession, came Stewart Ellis, owner of Palins camp, a man whose name I cannot recall but he was a young retired health official from England somewhere, and then probably the present owners.mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 11, 2012, 05:30:42 pm
Workmen were still busy inside the new Caffe Nero when I went past at 4.50pm tonight. Must be keen to get it open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 12, 2012, 02:57:47 pm
Apologies if this has already been posted.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 12, 2012, 04:07:09 pm
Workmen busy inside Caffe Nero on a Sunday!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 13, 2012, 05:53:03 pm
Just to say that a week after it opened with the novelty value of a new pub opening, the Albion in Conwy is serving consistently good beer with a nice atmosphere.

It is exactly what Conwy needs and I hope that it continues the way it has started.

Bosun
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 13, 2012, 08:23:29 pm
Ahoy there Bosun!  $good$

Welcome to the Forum, and thats great news about The Albion!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 15, 2012, 06:39:20 pm
Looks like Take a break are extending into part of Hooson;s
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2012, 01:02:38 pm
Looks like Take a break are extending into part of Hooson;s
Indeed!

Location: 96 Mostyn Street Llandudno Conwy LL30 2SW
Community Council: Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council
Change Build Use
Received Date : 30/01/2012
Determination Level Delegated
Development Type(s): Ward: Gogarth
Registered Date: 10/02/2012
Team: Minor Applications Team
Proposal: Change of Use from an A1 Perfume shop to an A3 cafe/restaurant to include internal alterations

How many cafes and coffee shops can Llandudno stand before something gives...?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 16, 2012, 01:53:42 pm
Just to say that a week after it opened with the novelty value of a new pub opening, the Albion in Conwy is serving consistently good beer with a nice atmosphere.

It is exactly what Conwy needs and I hope that it continues the way it has started.

Bosun
Went to Conwy this morning to give the Bus Pass a run out. Weather was a bit iffy so thought of Bosun's comments on the Albion and decided to give it a try. 12:05 pm doors locked lights off and no sign of life. Thats not the way to get customers. If they keep it up they will soon be out of business
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2012, 06:01:41 pm
Work on the conversion of Burtons into Caffe Nero is reaching a peak, there must have been 20 contractors on site today:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 16, 2012, 06:07:50 pm
Work is reaching a CRESCENDO,   ....Maybe even a CAPPUCCINO!   $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 16, 2012, 06:14:41 pm
Work on the conversion of Burtons into Caffe Nero is reaching a peak, there must have been 20 contractors on site today:


When I walked past the other day they were all sat on the floor in the window eating cakes! $dins$
I was dying to take a photo but I didn't dare.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 16, 2012, 09:07:46 pm
You could have sold it to Gregs ! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tillymint on February 16, 2012, 10:35:16 pm
Just to say that a week after it opened with the novelty value of a new pub opening, the Albion in Conwy is serving consistently good beer with a nice atmosphere.

It is exactly what Conwy needs and I hope that it continues the way it has started.

Bosun
Went to Conwy this morning to give the Bus Pass a run out. Weather was a bit iffy so thought of Bosun's comments on the Albion and decided to give it a try. 12:05 pm doors locked lights off and no sign of life. Thats not the way to get customers. If they keep it up they will soon be out of business
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tillymint on February 16, 2012, 10:41:55 pm
Messed my reply up re the Albion being closed. Sorry. Too much vino  Z**

I don't think they open until 5pm.

Even though it is half term week it will not be worth opening any earlier. Too many pubs and not enough customers even if they served food.

Been there and got the t shirt
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 17, 2012, 06:44:21 am
On the couple of evenings this week in the early evening that I have been in the Albion, they have had more customers than you would normally see in a pub at that time, especially at this time of year, and they say they are getting of to an excellent start. The beer remains consistently good, the open fires lit and a decent welcome from the staff. Very pleasant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 19, 2012, 03:53:45 pm
The Grand Opening of Fry-Days Fish and Chip Shop at 101 Llandudno Road, Penrhryn Bay will be on Friday, 24 February.

This was Pedro's 101 Cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2012, 09:52:54 pm
Llechwedd we need to know what sort of restaurant is coming to the old Burger King,you need to dig a bit more lol.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2012, 10:02:02 pm
Llechwedd we need to know what sort of restaurant is coming to the old Burger King,you need to dig a bit more lol.
Yes, good point, Wrex!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 22, 2012, 06:21:04 pm
All the local Peacocks stores are staying open.

Caffe Nero is ready to open:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on February 23, 2012, 12:38:34 pm
Sorry Wrex the short term memory has gone.  The woman in CC told me a name like Ben and Jerry but not them obviously as it's to be a "posh" restaurant not an ice cream shop.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on February 23, 2012, 12:50:51 pm
Frankie & Benny's?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 23, 2012, 01:02:22 pm
Laurel and Hardy's ?   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 03:15:20 pm
Caffe Nero's opening has now been put back till next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2012, 03:57:52 pm
??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2012, 08:49:01 pm
Some exclusive photos taken inside the new Caffe Nero:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 24, 2012, 08:26:26 am
Caffe Nero's opening has now been put back till next Tuesday.

Any reason ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 09:07:58 am
Staff training.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 24, 2012, 10:26:59 am
For the last couple of weeks, The Sunday Times have been providing vouchers for a FREE macchiato at Caffe Nero which are valid until 3 March 2012.  $good$

Hopefully, there will be a third for me this Sunday.  $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 11:50:00 am
This has been noted, Bri...  $good$  ;D

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 04:56:49 pm
Caffe Nero has just opened and all drinks are free for today only.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 06:44:38 pm
Quite a pleasant view when sitting on the first floor of Caffe Nero:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 27, 2012, 07:19:43 pm
Treated myself to Fish (cod) and Chips at Frydays in Penrhryn Bay this evening.  Nice clean pleasant shop with a small (20 seater) dining room that cannot be viewed from the Counter sales area.

Not over impressed with the result of my purchase.  Batter was nice and thin but falling off the fish so could have done with a bit more substance to it.   Chips were big and chunky but the size resulted in some of them being undercooked.  Pleasant staff, prices may shock a few of the Senior Citizens who live in the area.

Only two choices of fish, Cod or Haddock - I prefer Plaice or Skate.

As the 'plaice' has only been open since last Friday I will let them get up to speed before I try again.   Wonder if they will start serving deep fried Mars Bars?    _))*

 ££$ to them.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TELL on February 27, 2012, 10:36:21 pm
Back in beautiful Llandudno after many months overseas.
On Sunday I had a walk along the pier. It was packed with happy people.
I see the gulls are still mugging people for their chips.
One sour note. I had a £1.80 coffee sitting on the end of the pier. I think it was the most horrible
"coffee" I have had in my life, God knows what they make it from!
Still, it is wonderful to be back! You don't know how lucky you are living here.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 10:51:12 pm
One sour note. I had a £1.80 coffee sitting on the end of the pier. I think it was the most horrible
"coffee" I have had in my life, God knows what they make it from!
I couldn't agree more. It's terrible quality, I prefer to walk back into town to get a coffee rather than get one from the Pierhead cafe.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 27, 2012, 11:13:29 pm
£1.80!!! Must be mad. If it tasted delightful I'd still be annoyed at that price :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 27, 2012, 11:32:27 pm
B2R... unless you go into Weatherspoons, (£1.59 I believe), you will be hard pressed to find a coffee anywhere for less than £1.80. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2012, 08:15:51 am
It's not 1974 anymore, B2R....  :D  ;)  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 28, 2012, 11:23:46 am
B2R... unless you go into Weatherspoons, (£1.59 I believe), you will be hard pressed to find a coffee anywhere for less than £1.80.

Half the stuff they class as coffee is like warm water to me! I'd rather walk home!---or take a flask! ;D Very strong and black, looks like tar !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 28, 2012, 05:28:48 pm
B2R... unless you go into Weatherspoons, (£1.59 I believe), you will be hard pressed to find a coffee anywhere for less than £1.80.

Excellent coffee, Cappicino, Latte etc at £1.35 at Cafe Dewi,  St David's Hospice.  Plenty of well known people gather there!    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2012, 07:08:07 pm
After a couple of beers with Fester, I've just walked past Caffe Nero and its still open - what time do they close?

Also workmen were still busy in Sainsburys.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jas on February 29, 2012, 03:54:21 pm
Good timing of your photo from Cafe Nero , DaveR.  That's me in the black coat & red  scarf  :-*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on February 29, 2012, 07:07:47 pm
A typical Llandudno street scene. The Silver Peugeot in the foreground of your photo (which seems to be displaying a disability permit) apart how many cars can you spot illegally parking.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 07:21:58 pm
A typical Llandudno street scene. The Silver Peugeot in the foreground of your photo (which seems to be displaying a disability permit) apart how many cars can you spot illegally parking.

Possibly only one, because the others are moving I think.
I know what you are DRIVING at though, I have never known a town like it for double parking.
Particularly in Upper Mostyn St.  Its dangerous coming down there most days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 07:36:15 pm
Good timing of your photo from Cafe Nero , DaveR.  That's me in the black coat & red  scarf  :-*
Really? I'd have bought you a coffee if I'd have known.  ;)

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 07:40:09 pm
Fester and I paid a late afternoon visit to Caffe Nero today. I had a Earl Grey and Fester had a Cappucino. I also had the Meatball Panini, which was excellent. It was very pleasant sitting on the sofas in the window watching the world go past. In fact, we were so relaxed that we ordered another round of drinks so we could stay there longer.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 10:21:18 pm
Work is also well underway to gut the interior of the former Clarence Hotel prior to its conversion into a Travelodge:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jas on March 01, 2012, 11:09:53 am
Dave, Next time I am passing I am going to look for you sitting in the window(with your camera), that way I will recognise you   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2012, 04:53:12 pm
Just having a refreshing cup of tea in Caffe Nero after a hard day's photographing over on the Lleyn Peninsula - very busy in here.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 04, 2012, 05:11:14 pm
Popped in there with the Mrs this afternoon just to have a coffee and see what the place had to offer.  Very busy but despite the crowd managed to say hello to a Forum Member and another couple of friends.

One complaint (there has to be one)  - Can't sample the upper floor due to the stairs - wonder if they will create a disabled access.  Fortunately we found a downstairs table!    Z**

Nice coffee and at a reasonable price for a High Street location.    D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 05, 2012, 04:53:55 pm
I enjoyed a coffee and my missus a hot chocolate this afternoon in Caffe Nero.

We sat downstairs and just to the left when you first walk in.

Both drinks were very nice indeed.

However, my missus reminded how I have always not wanted to look like a dummy in Burton’s window and guess what...........?   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2012, 06:17:42 pm
I was also in there this afternoon (must have just missed you, Bri) and another two forum members walked in as I sat down. We shall have to start holding Forum Meetups in there at this rate...  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 05, 2012, 06:26:35 pm
Very pleasant it is too! We finally found the time to call in this afternoon!  $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 05, 2012, 11:34:58 pm
Apparently Costa are now opening in town,either in the old JD Sports shop or could be Burger King.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 06, 2012, 01:07:23 am
As far as Costa is concerned, there is already one in Parc Llandudno.... but the new one will be a franchise in the redeveloped Clarence Hotel, (Travel Lodge).   Or so I hear??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 06, 2012, 12:38:09 pm
I am hearing there is another Caff'e moving into the old Gimberts shop upper mostyn street  opposite Listers how much coffee can we drink!! any thoughts
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2012, 12:42:49 pm
Apparently Costa are now opening in town,either in the old JD Sports shop or could be Burger King.
Its certainly not in the former Burger King.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2012, 03:07:38 pm
I am hearing there is another Caff'e moving into the old Gimberts shop upper mostyn street  opposite Listers how much coffee can we drink!! any thoughts

We shall be floating away if we aren't careful.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on March 06, 2012, 04:30:19 pm
Well, any quality business moving in is a good thing and Llandudno has always had lots of cafes and coffee shops, like most seaside resorts.

Would the concession in Travel Lodge not be rather large? I was under the impression two businesses were moving in there (a shop and a restaurant), so where would the Costa go? Inside the reception?

I think that Gimbert's becoming a coffee shop would be acceptable. I think Upper Mostyn Street should move over to a hospitality/nightime economy. I know there are complaints from residents, but better to have things like that in one area and there has been a concentration of pubs up there for decades.

Is it Frankie and Benney's going into the BK? I think I read that somewhere perhaps upthread. What does the Nero's look like from the outside and in? Good quality? I don't live in Llandudno itself, so haven't seen it so far.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 06, 2012, 05:41:19 pm
I don't believe the former Burger King has the floor space for a Frankie and Bennies. Their units are normally purpose built and are able to service a significantly large footfall.
They prefere out of town retail parks which provide sufficient car parking.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 06, 2012, 07:35:32 pm
Lots of footfall during the day and perfect for parking at nite
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2012, 07:46:04 pm
http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/frankie_benny_s_chiquito_and_garfunkel_s_owner_plans_to_create_600_new_jobs_1_1223718 (http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/frankie_benny_s_chiquito_and_garfunkel_s_owner_plans_to_create_600_new_jobs_1_1223718)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2012, 10:34:20 am
I'm told that the main work shortly to begin on the Clarence Hotel will mean that the entire pavement on that side of Gloddaeth Street will be blocked off completely, with no pedestrian access being available on that side of the road. Instead, they are going to keep the three parking spaces outside the Clarence in operation.

Seems crazy to me. Why not lose the parking spaces and have the pedestrian walkway there? It's a busy pavement in the Summer, the closure will hit local traders hard.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 10, 2012, 02:02:47 pm
Anybody noticed Colwyn Bays brand new shop.
   No, it's not another cafe, nor a charity shop.
       It's all nicely painted up inside and out, lovely shining windows.

         It's a ----- wait for it -----  the Accident Claim Centre.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 10, 2012, 04:49:13 pm
"Gimberts A Cafe".
The owners must have extreemely deep pockets or are they just simply MAD.
That area is saturated with cafes, even The Fountain and The London operate as fully fledged cafes during the day time.. Not to mention Home Cooking, Coonys, Little Deli, Fat Cat, and even the chemist-Hoosons_ is to be developed as a cafe. Then round the corner is the Orient Express, and the place next to the Carlton. And they are all whinging as to how quiete is is up there.
the pot of Gold seems to have moved to St Georges place, there you have Nero, Cafe Culture, The coffee Centre, Ham bone, and it seems the town is moving south towards Bog Island and the new shops. there is even a cafe going into the Clarence Hotel. Yes we will be floating in it soon, Maybee it is our Tsunami of coffee . You must be able to sell something other than coffee teas and food these days. what I don't know. Oh what about the Castle hotel Bet that is another cafe in 12 months. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on March 11, 2012, 12:34:52 am
As long as mugs will keep paying up to £3 or more for a cup of hot water more coffee bars will open, they are on a good thing.

Bring back Camp Coffee I say.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 11, 2012, 07:30:31 am
As we all know some places would never be used by us the locals and only survive on tourists,there are at least 10 places i would never dream of going in and if you check on CCBC HIT LIST MOST OF THEM ONLY GET 2 OUT OF 5 .There are a lot of good places to eat and drink and those who look after their premises will be used by us and maybe the others may die but there is always others who will have a go.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2012, 09:00:44 am
Business is business. The best will survive, others will fall by the wayside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2012, 09:31:57 am
Survival of the fittest, applies to everything!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 11, 2012, 10:23:57 am
I'm inclined to agree with Ronald McDonald If I was going to open a cafe I would not open it in an area  that would leave me surrounded by competition. Some of them are very good at what thee do and some of them are very mercenary. you only need to look around to see who are the winners and loser's or plodders who just plod along paying the rent $
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 11, 2012, 12:34:20 pm

Bring back Camp Coffee I say.


Ooooooh!  I say!   You are awful, but I like you anyway!    L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 11, 2012, 01:46:55 pm
CAMP coffee eh?
Sounds like something Dave would like!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 11, 2012, 02:16:49 pm
Why?

Is DaveR a boy scout?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2012, 04:57:27 pm
Just another of Fester's "hilarious" attempts at humour.....  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 11, 2012, 05:41:34 pm
I was treated to a delicious birthday lunch today at Bodysgallen Hall.
Starter of home cured salmon, then roast rib of beef and rhubarb crumble. It was all good but especially the beef and the horseradish sauce!

 $dins$

A great place to go for a real treat with really good service.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on March 11, 2012, 05:47:11 pm
A bet Gimbets is a Bar within 12 months

My mum made a cake with camp coffee once Never Again !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 12, 2012, 07:24:59 pm
The problem with the CCBC Hits List or otherwise known as scores on the doors is this.
You can have a wonderfully clean operation but if your Diary is not up to date then you will not score more than 2 out of 5. and of course they will return upon your request to re audit with in 6 weeks to 12 weeks for a fee £250.00 i believe
so they return and you score 5 out of 5 this means they will not return for another 18 months to 2 years as the return visit is time scales to the score level meanwhile you could have let your kitchen laps back to its original state especially if your staff have changed and they don't like cleaning.
I noticed the other day the old Navy club has a score of 5 . must be very clean bar, glass shelves, barrels, pool tables pool balls tv's Etc.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 12, 2012, 07:40:37 pm
Oddly enough, when I visited Chester the other week, I noticed that a few of the proliferation of cafes and coffee shops that I had noticed on my previous visit last year had closed.

We can perhaps expect a similar situation in Llandudno in a year or so. In a situation like this, it will be the owners with the deepest pockets (or canniest marketing abilities) that survive. Those that are complacent will pay the price, sadly.

Hmmm...Hoosons Corner cafe...interesting....  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 12, 2012, 09:21:50 pm
As you say--- very interesting! ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 09:37:59 am
Yes thats right there are a lots of cafes and small catering operations closed in chester over the past 12 months I agree  it will be interesting to see how hoosons corner will do.  As for the gimberts they will open next to the london who I believe are financially backed by a very large brewery who will no doubt invest if the need be . and they will also be opening opposite the fountain which we all know is owned by local business man and entrepreneur S D who will pour money into the fountain and cause both hoosons and gimberts a few sleepless nights.
mmmmmmmmmm..... interesting on both thoughts  ..only time will tell . I think as the economy tightens only the strong will survive.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 09:49:07 am
Take a Break is always busy when we pass.

Expanding next door comes with an obvious risk but it seems the existing proprietors consider it a risk well worth taking.

I think the proprietors could still be two young local sisters and if so, I wish them both well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on March 13, 2012, 09:58:01 am
Does anyone know what sort of cafe is planned for Gimberts (i.e. chain, cafe restaurant, more of a bar, locally-owned)?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:11:44 am
Take a Break is always busy when we pass.

Expanding next door comes with an obvious risk but it seems the existing proprietors consider it a risk well worth taking.

I think the proprietors could still be two young local sisters and if so, I wish them both well.
I'm saying nothing......  :-X  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 10:12:04 am
Cant understand the seance here. Someone told me over the weekend that coony was pulling out of the bar opposite the Fountain.
So assuming this cafe bar is to become available at a passing rent of 22K a year completely kitted out with bar kitchen and everything licenced then why take on an empty shop with a rent of 20k a year and then spend all your hard earned cash converting it. some people have lots of romantic ideas but no common sence
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 10:17:42 am
I wonder how much a Starbucks Coffee franchise costs these days?

I assume they are a franchise.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 13, 2012, 10:27:27 am
Take a Break is always busy when we pass.

Expanding next door comes with an obvious risk but it seems the existing proprietors consider it a risk well worth taking.

I think the proprietors could still be two young local sisters and if so, I wish them both well.
I'm saying nothing......  :-X  8)
Nor am I, but you obviously know what I know !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:32:47 am
Cant understand the seance here. Someone told me over the weekend that coony was pulling out of the bar opposite the Fountain.
So assuming this cafe bar is to become available at a passing rent of 22K a year completely kitted out with bar kitchen and everything licenced then why take on an empty shop with a rent of 20k a year and then spend all your hard earned cash converting it. some people have lots of romantic ideas but no common sence
Indeed. Cooneys was always far too small to be able to turn a decent profit, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:34:39 am
I wonder how much a Starbucks Coffee franchise costs these days?

I assume they are a franchise.
All Starbucks are company owned, they don't allow franchises. They have taken a look at Llandudno though, I believe.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 10:38:30 am
Perhaps, we should start a dedicated thread where members can name each and every venue in Llandudno where one can call in and purchase a cup of coffee.

I wonder if the list would grow above twenty.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:45:09 am
That would be a big list, Bri, especially if you included all the hotels that are open for coffee for non-residents. Shall we give it a go?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 10:46:31 am
Why not, DaveR?

You start the thread with the first six and I will do my best to add to it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 10:50:59 am
Ok....let's start at the top of Mostyn Street and work down.

Fountains  ;)
Kava
Take A Break
Orient Express
Fat Cat
Home Cookin
London
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 10:54:10 am
Does anyone know what sort of cafe is planned for Gimberts (i.e. chain, cafe restaurant, more of a bar, locally-owned)?


Ive heard Traditional Welsh Tea Rooms Directly opposite Kava Cafe
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 10:55:27 am
Local Mad Business People
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:00:05 am
Fountains  ;)
Kava
Take A Break
Orient Express
Fat Cat
Home Cookin
London

Carlton?
Caffe Nero
Café Culture
Fortes
Coffee Centre
M&S

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:03:27 am
Cafe Indulgence (Clonmel Street)
Cadwaladars
Cafe in Indoor Shopping Centre
Cafe in Indoor Market
Kings Arms
Pebble

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:03:52 am
Local Mad Business People
:laugh:  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:14:11 am
Badgers
Subway
Oriel Mostyn
Albert
Osborne House
Empire Hotel
Habit
Take a Break

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:18:52 am
I'm deducting Take a Break as I've mentioned it already.  :P

Cafe Monet, Vaughan Street
Costa Coffee
Caffi Cais
Juice Bar
Gerrards
Coffee at Waterstones
Cafe Express
Hambone
Top Table
Greenery
Cocoa House

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 11:27:18 am
By the time you include the likes of wetherspoons , Tiffanys. cottage loaf. etc. And as I watch the numbers go up as you add more names to your list I start to think maybee I should become a Coffee Bean distributer or Coffee Barron.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:32:28 am
Thanks, Cat, I was beginning to wilt

Wetherspoons
Cottage Loaf
Tiffany Coffee Shop
Clares
Coffee @ Waterstones
West Shore Beach Café
Rest and be Thankful
The Summit Cafe
 
DaveR, what is the name of that quaint coffee shop opposite Lazars in Madoc Street – Vichellos ??

45 or 46 with Vichellos
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 11:38:38 am
Hoelfra Gardens
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 11:39:40 am
Asda
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:43:42 am
Yes, 48

Debenhams
BHS
Barnacles

Is it Café Express next door to HSBC?

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:45:45 am
Its Vecchios in Madoc street. I'd already added in Waterstones and Cafe Express, so must deduct those.

I make that 50 so far.

Happy Valley Cafe
Ski Lodge
Copper Mines Cafe
Grand Hotel Lounge
Coffee Bean (Pier Entrance)
Pierhead Cafe

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:50:12 am
Mostyns (on First Floor by Town House)
Queen Vic, Church Walks (£2.70+ for a Latte!!)

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 11:53:17 am
After we have completed this exercise we can try and identify the cheapest and most expensive coffee houses in Llandudno.

I suppose there is no reason to exclude the excellent coffee centres within the St Georges Hotel and Imperial Hotel which are always open and patronised by locals

60
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 13, 2012, 12:01:52 pm
Cotton Traders have started,not sure they do coffee though
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:06:00 pm
If they do, wrex, please let us know.

Where are they situated?

There is Sarah J’s next to the railway station.

My missus says there is another cafe opposite the Town Hall, maybe called 19 or is it now Top Table already mentioned?

and I think there is another in Vaughan Street near to Clinton James. Is that Cafe Monet you already mentioned?

So maybe only 61.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:25:13 pm
Catlin's at Venue Cymru
Cafe Dewi at St David's Hospice

63
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 12:27:17 pm
OOh...Beach Cafe West Shore
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:31:05 pm
I have already mentioned the West Shore Beach Cafe.

So still 63.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 12:35:39 pm
We can add in the Lilly at West Shore though, so...

64
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 12:36:42 pm
Don't forget the always excellent Le Gatte in Craig Y Don and Catlins Cafe at Venue Cymru.

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:39:07 pm
Sorry, DaveR, but I have already just mentioned Catlin's at Venue Cymru.

So 65.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 12:49:58 pm
Magistrates Court Tea Bar.

66   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on March 13, 2012, 01:12:32 pm
Fish and Chip shop in Ffordd Las

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 01:31:05 pm
WRVS Tea Bar in out-patients at Llandudno Hospital.

68
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 01:33:03 pm
Cafe at St Davids Hospice

69
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2012, 01:48:55 pm
Cafe at St Davids Hospice

69

Already mentioned - so 68.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 02:00:17 pm
Any advances on 68..?

If you included all of the hotels that offered coffee, like the Meirion, Ambassador, Chatsworth etc you could probably get to nearly 100
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on March 13, 2012, 02:10:27 pm
What about Kingdom Krafts, the Hub and the Christian youth centre all on Madoc Street and all sell coffee.  Anyone mentioned The Town House (big coffee sign outside) or the Summit Complex cafe or the coffee machine at the Copper Mines?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 04:17:33 pm
Jack, I have already mentioned the Summit Café and DaveR has already included the Copper Mines Café.

Nevertheless, nobody got KFC and I do not think Leopold’s Café in the Mall has been mentioned yet.

So including DaveR’s 3 x named hotels offering coffee to non-residents and Jack’s 3 venues in Madoc Street plus the Town House then to date I make it:-

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on March 13, 2012, 04:27:06 pm
McDonalds

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on March 13, 2012, 05:19:39 pm
Incredible! Who'd have thought there would be so many?

There also a few shops eg Nigel Roberts, that have machines forhot drinks to take out.

Can anyone think of anyother  product that can be bought at as many outlets in town?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 05:44:50 pm
Leopolds Cafe was mentioned by me but I couldn't remember its name, so its 77.

I think we can also add:
The Cambridge (above the old Gareth Roberts Opticians shop)

78
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2012, 06:33:27 pm
Has Bofafon Park Farm been mentioned? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on March 13, 2012, 06:57:13 pm
what about the cafe in the coach park?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 07:15:06 pm
what about the cafe in the coach park?

DaveR mentioned Café Cais.


Has Bofafon Park Farm been mentioned?

Nice one, Yorkie

79.



 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dogstail on March 13, 2012, 07:19:51 pm
oh right, thanks....I wasn't sure what it was called.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 07:57:05 pm
The Parade, The Kings Head, The Snowdon, The Links, The Washington
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2012, 07:59:58 pm
Probably not worth mentioning National Tyres same princilpe as Nigel Roberts
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 13, 2012, 08:03:38 pm
If you want a free coffee just go into First Choice and pretend you are looking for a holiday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 13, 2012, 08:12:28 pm
The Parade, The Kings Head, The Snowdon, The Links, The Washington

84

That is 84 establishments in and around Llandudno were a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ronald McDonald6 on March 13, 2012, 08:19:47 pm
If CCBC get wind of this info they will start a local levy on coffee consumed whilst sitting.
On a seriouse note though. It makes me wonder if people planning on opening new or extending existing coffee facilities have really done their home work.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 08:45:11 pm
If CCBC get wind of this info they will start a local levy on coffee consumed whilst sitting.
As long as they don't charge the end user, I will be fine...  ;)

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 13, 2012, 10:32:44 pm
Yesterday we were sat upstairs in Caffe Nero looking at the building above Cafe Culture.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0964.jpg)

looks like some work is needed!
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0967.jpg)

and look at how the right hand side of the windows have sagged (some time ago)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0965.jpg)

Lets hope it all stays up!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 13, 2012, 11:01:33 pm
*makes note not to sit in that corner of Cafe Culture in future*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 14, 2012, 07:37:26 am
I was amazed yesterday at the long list of coffee places in Llandudno.
What about having a forum vote on which are the better/favourite ones?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 15, 2012, 08:02:44 pm
Fountains Bar has had a small extension to its seating area added, along with a new floor and a bit of a paint. Looks much better...  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: The ONE on March 16, 2012, 09:14:39 pm
I was amazed yesterday at the long list of coffee places in Llandudno.
What about having a forum vote on which are the better/favourite ones?

About 500 places in Llandudno where you can buy a cuppa coffee.
All 500 are overpriced In my humble opinion.   Most of 'em falling apart, others are poxy hotels.
Others are an afterthought, Waterstones is a book shop, but books don't make money, shall we sell coffee?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:36:10 pm
Welcome to the forum, The ONE.  $good$

Is there nowhere in Llandudno that you think serves a good cup of coffee? Personally, I think both Caffe Nero and Cafe Culture are pretty good.

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 09:50:37 pm
Costa Coffee is GREAT... apart from the long wait and the messy tables.   

You can't go wrong for value in Weatherspoons, its Lavazza coffee, and only £1.49 for a large one.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:55:13 pm
its Lavazza coffee, and only £1.49 for a large one.  ;D
The point you miss is this...you can have the finest coffee in the world...but if you have a dopey person making it who doesn't know or care about making good coffee, then you may as well be serving that Nescafe rubbish like they do on the pier.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: The ONE on March 16, 2012, 09:59:51 pm
Cafe Culture?  You jest. 
Expensive and poor quality coffee is becoming the culture.

Cafe Nero, reserving judgement, not been in yet. Working away at the moment.  $eu

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 10:05:12 pm
Cafe Culture?  You jest. 
Expensive and poor quality coffee is becoming the culture.
Well, I go in quite a bit and it seems fine to me. Each to their own, I suppose. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 11:28:26 pm
The staff in Cafe Culture are very friendly and quick.... I have a lot of time for them.

Unlike Caffe Nero, where I believe the experience is painfully slow.

In Summer the queue in CN will be horrendous, and that is why CC will still be very busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 16, 2012, 11:52:53 pm
I waited 5 mins for two coffees in Caffe Nero on Monday, both very nice but a long wait, perhaps because they are still learning??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 17, 2012, 08:30:57 am
Unlike Caffe Nero, where I believe the experience is painfully slow.

In Summer the queue in CN will be horrendous, and that is why CC will still be very busy.


If Caffe Nero start putting tables and chairs outside on the pavement during the Summer then the queue will be longer.

The queue for toilet upstairs will be even longer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 08:33:13 am
Unlike Caffe Nero, where I believe the experience is painfully slow.

In Summer the queue in CN will be horrendous, and that is why CC will still be very busy.


If Caffe Nero start putting tables and chairs outside on the pavement during the Summer then the queue will be longer.

The queue for toilet upstairs will be even longer.
Crossed legs in order then Bri. :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 17, 2012, 08:57:47 am
Caffe Nero staff have to serve up to 4 customers at once. In addition, they have a very specific method for making coffee, in order to ensure the quality (milk has to be heated to a specific temperature etc), so it will never be as fast as some other coffee shops. The staff in red shirts are trainee baristas and will be slower than the fully trained staff in black shirts.

There's a lengthy article on the Caffe Nero training process and the coffee making process here:
http://web2.ges.gla.ac.uk/~elaurier/cafesite/texts/barista.pdf (http://web2.ges.gla.ac.uk/~elaurier/cafesite/texts/barista.pdf)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 17, 2012, 09:10:24 am
If I was the manager, I would insist staff deliver orders to customers' tables in an attempt to reduce the queue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 17, 2012, 11:40:40 am
If I was the manager, I would insist staff deliver orders to customers' tables in an attempt to reduce the queue.

Sacrilege Bri - You would be utterly destroying a long established and well respected British Tradition - that of QUEUING!    L0L     L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 17, 2012, 02:21:24 pm
If I was the manager, I would insist staff deliver orders to customers' tables in an attempt to reduce the queue.


I so agree with you Bri.

I’m afraid you’ve got me started on this one. It should be in the niggles section I suppose but I hate self service.
It has become the norm for coffee shops to get you to queue twice. Once to order and pay and then again to wait to one side until the drink is ready.
All this when all you want to do is sit down and rest your weary feet.
When you are finally given your drink you often have to find your way through tables piled high with other people’s mess. Then you find a table, clear it yourself, wipe the crumbs away from the seat and hope you don’t tread in anything too hideous on the floor.
This happened to me two days ago at Pret a Manger at Cheshire Oaks but also guilty are Costa, Caffe Nero, Starbucks, M&S etc etc.
However it isn’t just this kind of establishment that seems to think the customer should be helping them out on the service side.
My other bug bare is buffet breakfasts. I have stayed at some expensive hotels in my time where I have been obliged to assist them by getting up and down from from seat to collect food from a buffet. The other problem with this is that the “hot food” rarely is.
I travel a lot on my own and buffet meal tables are a logistical nightmare for lone travellers. If you get up to get something, then by the time you get back the table has been cleared because they thought you’d gone.
Another habit I hate when you are on your own is the one they use in the Imperial Hotel for  lunch and the Mostyn Gallery. Their system is you sit down at a table to look at the menu and then you get up from your nice comfy seat in the window with a sea view to place your order at the bar/ counter. You give them your table number only to return to find a lovely old couple sitting in your seat!
Sorry to go on but thank you forum for letting me get this off my chest! GGRRR!!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 03:32:40 pm
I have to agree with you there hollins, we have never offered a buffet breakfast, there are plenty of things on the menu ( that's another matter--places who have no menu, but stand and rattle off what they are offering) and after people have made their choices they are served whilst I get on and freshly cook their choice of main course. So many places cook their food at some ungodly hour and either re-heat it or keep it warm. The plates are too hot to handle, so the food is served hot !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 17, 2012, 03:39:54 pm
I must come and stay at your place. I would like it!
Well done you.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2012, 08:08:21 pm
Thanks ! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2012, 10:18:19 am

I’m afraid you’ve got me started on this one. It should be in the niggles section I suppose but I hate self service.
It has become the norm for coffee shops to get you to queue twice. Once to order and pay and then again to wait to one side until the drink is ready.

EDITED to save bandwidth!

The best place for quality food at a reasonable price and with (normally) fantastic cheerful service is any of the multitude of "Greasy Spoon" cafes around the country.    Transport drivers don't tolerate crap service, or crap food or astronomic prices!   Plenty of excellent establishments all over the country that I could recommend or take you to!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2012, 04:49:56 pm
Any locally, Yorkie?

Caffe Nero looks very smart with its new canopy blinds:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 18, 2012, 05:02:21 pm
We had coffees for only £1 each at Fountains earlier and a free read of the Sunday Newspapers.

No queueing and we saved over £3 if we had visited Caffe Nero.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2012, 06:46:19 pm
Any locally, Yorkie?

The ones I know tend not to be "in" town.  There is one on the A5 at Cerrydydruddion that I have been into a few times and it has always been freshly cooked and good value.   The car and motor cycle groups tend to stop there and they are quite fussy!

Of course there is also the PONDEROSA on the Horseshoe Pass but that is not really a "greasy spoon".  Had lunch there last week and it was a good portion of steak and ale pie with chips and peas for only £5.50.   Again it is a popular venue for the cars and bikers.   About 30 of my car club will be ending our next hoon around North Wales at the Ponderosa, good place to finish a great driving day.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2012, 01:36:38 pm
I see on Oscar that Take A Break have withdrawn their application to extend through into Hoosons Corner.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 20, 2012, 02:40:54 pm
I see on Oscar that Take A Break have withdrawn their application to extend through into Hoosons Corner.

Wonder if he knows why? :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 20, 2012, 04:19:24 pm
Maybe they read on a local Forum that there are already 1,000's of coffee places in and around Llandudno!
 WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 22, 2012, 08:50:50 am
One place I'd never go to (before this news came to light)...

A MUM tucking in to a takeaway meal ended up with a bleeding gum after it was cut by an inch-long piece of wire which had broken off a frying basket.

Chelsea McEvoy, 20, had just spent £10.40 on food at the Wing Wah Chinese takeaway in Craig y Don, Llandudno, on Monday.

Ms McEvoy, of Lloyd Street, Llandudno, said: “We were celebrating getting a new car – a Volkswagen Polo – and decided to go to the chippy.

“I had chips and gravy in a pot. But the gravy was very dark.


“So when I poured it on to the chips, I didn’t see the wire at first.

“It wedged in the top of my mouth and cut my gum.

“I put my hand in my mouth and saw there was blood.”

She said: “It looks like a staple – it’s awful.

“It’s lucky I didn’t swallow it and it rip my insides. I was so upset and angry. I’m registered disabled. I suffer from epilepsy.

“My daughter Courtney, who is nearly 16 months old, could have swallowed it. I’m so glad I’d just put my little girl to bed.”

Ms McEvoy, who lives with partner Ashley, 23, returned to the chippy, which is about a mile from her home, to complain.

She said the shop assistant said the “chip pan had broken”, gave her a refund and said “Sorry, mate”.

But Ms McEvoy was still unhappy and has now reported the incident to Conwy County Council and urged food hygiene officials to take action.

Yesterday Ken Chan, 52, of the Wing Wah on Mostyn Avenue, Craig y Don, apologised.

He said the wire came off a basket during cooking and admitted it could have been a “danger”.

He added that he is “very sorry”.

Conwy County Council is looking into the matter. A spokesman said: “We can confirm that the Regulatory Services Department has received the complaint and will be investigating.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/03/22/north-wales-mum-found-wire-in-chips-55578-30597250/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/03/22/north-wales-mum-found-wire-in-chips-55578-30597250/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 22, 2012, 12:51:33 pm
Im Confused there are pages missing last time I looked i was reading page 50 something
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 22, 2012, 01:55:35 pm
The discussion about Shops has been separated off into a different thread:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1490.0.html (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1490.0.html)

 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on March 22, 2012, 10:53:31 pm
Im Confused there are pages missing last time I looked i was reading page 50 something

They cut the shops out of this thread - and... the first cut is the deepest :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2012, 07:37:20 pm
I hear that Fortes have made a few cutbacks amongst their staff.  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 24, 2012, 09:00:06 pm
Strange time of the year for an ice cream business to cut back on staff.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2012, 04:30:21 pm
Wednesday was such a lovely day we decided to go to Plas Maenan just for an afternoon coffee.  The roadworks on the A470 were a pain but it was still worth the effort once we were there.
We sat on the verandah and the views over to the Carneddau are worth seeing.   As we sat a helicopter passed over on it's way towards Conwy and about 15 minutes later a jet flew low down the Conwy Valley in the opposite direction.
The atmosphere was very relaxing and it was so nice taking in everything.  A great way to spend an hour or two and we ended up watching the Rabbits playing in the fields below the car park.
The views are from Cadair Ifan Goch which is just above the Hotel
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 29, 2012, 04:45:46 pm
It looks beautiful Hugo. Keep meaning to go so thanks for the reminder!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2012, 07:40:32 pm
If you go there in May, do the short walk to Cadair Ifan Goch and you'll see a fine display of Bluebells  there and then you can  finish the walk by going for a nice coffee at Plas Maenan.        $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 01, 2012, 09:55:35 pm
Saw something odd on Friday, The Clarence hotel development has gone quiet there was nobody there no builders it was deserted and the divertion signs have been removed. Now I know travel lodge have problems.....I wonder....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 02, 2012, 08:35:00 am
Something to do with rules and regulations, unsigned papers, CCBC, Fire service, you name it, it is all whizzing round the district-- someone must know the proper story.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2012, 08:52:24 am
The fact they went to the trouble of boarding up the front of the building indicates they don't plan to be back for a while...?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 03, 2012, 05:57:58 pm
A rare event took place in Deganwy today. Mr and Mrs Hollins had lunch together in the Quay Hotel, Deganwy.
Husband was dragged kicking and screaming from the garden but he enjoyed it when he got there.
It is such a splendid view from there. the service was good and the food freshly prepared.
Here is a photo of his fish platter.
Have I inspired any non posting members to write a local restaurant review I wonder!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 06:04:22 pm
I've not eaten in the Deganwy Quay Hotel (yet) but its certainly a great place to sit out on the Terrace on a warm evening and watch the sun go down.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 03, 2012, 06:14:57 pm
I used to prefer it when the restaurant was open upstairs. They used to do a really good value set lunch menu. I think from memory it was £11.50 for 2 courses. It was a superb room with lovely tables by the windows.
Still good food but not the same bargain now.
Unfortunately it wasn't warm enough to sit out today.
The sunsets must be fabulous from there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 06:27:48 pm
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6140/6198258111_b72970f599_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6198258111/)
Sunset at Deganwy Quay (2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6198258111/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Karen and Derek on May 07, 2012, 08:44:44 am
Beautiful photograph Dave!  :)

Karen.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2012, 04:13:37 pm
Beautiful photograph Dave!  :)

Karen.
Thank you.  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2012, 04:16:16 pm
I see St. Davids are now marketing the old Burger King as a potential Coffee Lounge. £39,000 pax rent if you're interested...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on May 13, 2012, 06:30:40 pm
I am very pleased to say I had a first class meal upstairs at the Queen Vic last night. Steak pud was wow. Well done Carol and team.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on May 14, 2012, 09:38:11 pm
Just been published on Washington Nights Facebook page :-

It's with deep regret that we have to inform you that The Washington Nights has ceased Trading as of Today; The building has recently been sold and we were going to continue to trade with a Lease in tact, however the new owners have proven extremely difficult to work with, cutting power illegally as well as other things, making our working lives unrealistic; Therefore we have had to make the sad and very hard decision of closing and leaving staff without a job last minute; This is not how we like to do business but have been left with no other options; We wanted all our loyal customers to hear the truth directly from us - and would like to say a BIG THANK YOU for you custom over the years; WE WILL MISS YOU!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 09:47:31 pm
Wow, that's a bit of a shocker but i did think it was odd the other day when they were having a lot of problems with their electricity supply.

Just had a new website done, too:
http://washingtonnightclub.co.uk/ (http://washingtonnightclub.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 10:49:50 pm
Tough time for the Washington's staff, as well, to lose their jobs at such short notice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 02:20:07 pm
I'm told that the Washington building was recently sold lately, with the Leaseholders continuing to run the bar and nightclub. Last Friday, the Leaseholders turned up to find that the building's doors had been barred from the inside and the main electricity supply had been removed. Despite their best efforts, the Leaseholders were unable to reopen and so have vacated the premises. The new owners of the building wish to install an Indian Restaurant, apparently.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2012, 06:44:04 pm
Tough time for the Washington's staff, as well, to lose their jobs at such short notice.

It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 07:34:36 pm
It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2012, 07:39:39 pm
It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o

I'll have to take your word for it Dave as I've never been that lucky.       :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on May 15, 2012, 09:29:05 pm
It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o
Yeah whatever Dave  :roll:  :-*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 09:32:10 pm
It must be a tough job being a photographer Dave, don't know how you managed to keep the camera steady with that photo!      ;D
That's not one of my photos, Hugo, although I have been in similar situations and the sad fact is you are too busy getting the photo right to appreciate what you are looking at.  ;D  :o
Yeah whatever Dave  :roll:  :-*
:laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2012, 10:46:59 am
I'm told that the Washington building was recently sold lately, with the Leaseholders continuing to run the bar and nightclub. Last Friday, the Leaseholders turned up to find that the building's doors had been barred from the inside and the main electricity supply had been removed. Despite their best efforts, the Leaseholders were unable to reopen and so have vacated the premises. The new owners of the building wish to install an Indian Restaurant, apparently.
I've since been told that the building's owners allegedly repossessed it due to non-payment of rent. That does make sense, as you cant just evict someone if they have a valid lease on a property and non-payment of rent is usually the only real reason a lease would be terminated.
Title: Indian Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on May 16, 2012, 04:15:50 pm
Does anyone know of a good Indian takeaway that will deliver in or around Llandudno?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 17, 2012, 09:32:53 am
ONE of Llandudno’s best known nightspots has closed suddenly with the loss of more than 20 jobs.

The Washington Nights on East Parade has been bought from Punch Taverns by Fu Lee, owner of Fu’s Cantonese Restaurant in Caernarfon.

It’s unclear what the future of one of the town’s oldest and best known nightspots will be, as the current leaseholder Bijan Sharifian is seeking legal advice after claiming he was forced to cease trading last Friday night.

Mr Sharifian says the electricity was cut off, making it impossible to open. Up to £1,000 worth of food stored in the bar’s freezers was ruined because of the loss of power.

Mr Sharifian said: “We knew The Washington had been sold and we were negotiating with the new owner as we want to continue to run the venue as a nightspot.

“However, we are now having to get legal advice as the electricity was cut off making it impossible for us to trade.

“The building has been partly boarded up and we are being denied access, so at present I just don’t know how feasible it is for us to reopen.

He added: “If we don’t manage it then I’d like to say a big thank you to all the staff, and to all the people who have supported us over the years.”

Some observers believe that the closure of the nightclub will hit the local economy in the near future.

The general manager of the venue, Nicky Jones, said: “We are all really gutted as we’ve all lost our jobs, and it’s going to have a real knock-on effect for the town.

“Local suppliers, doormen, taxi drivers and DJs are all going to feel this, as well as our 20 staff, two of whom were disabled.

“We are still trying to find a way to pay the staff wages as we have lost so much money not being able to trade last weekend.

“We’ve had so many messages of support on Facebook because people are so upset at us having to close.”

David Harris, who worked at The Washington and who has special needs, said: “I waited outside The Washington all alone, it seemed like hours and I got upset and sad.

“I started crying and thought of the years I had been there, I loved working there.”

On Facebook there were dozens of comments. Holly Augood wrote: “Such a shame, The Wash will be missed by many.”

Christine Hughes said: “Gutted! Some amazing memories have been made at the Wash!

“Good luck to everyone for the future!”

Despite numerous attempts to contact Mr Fu Lee, he was unavailable for comment.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/05/17/llandudno-nightspot-the-washington-nights-closes-55578-30986406/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/05/17/llandudno-nightspot-the-washington-nights-closes-55578-30986406/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 26, 2012, 06:26:07 pm
We had lunch today at Tyddyn Llan in Llandrillo. For me this place serves the best food in Wales.
We have had many meals there in the past and not a single course has ever disappointed.
We prefer eating at lunch time which is lucky because on Friday and Saturday the set lunch is £19.50 for two courses and £25.50 for three. This is remarkable when you taste the food and the portions are quite hearty!
It is also a beautiful drive over there especially on a day like today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 27, 2012, 10:23:57 am
Sat outside Lillys yesterday afternoon for a couple,the place was heaving,very nice to see but it is in a brilliant position.One thing baffles me,they have had damage to the right hand side of the roof for over 12 months yet they have had the left hand side re-roofed and seem to have left the damaged side,bamboozled.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on May 27, 2012, 04:09:37 pm
Sat outside Lillys yesterday afternoon for a couple,the place was heaving,very nice to see but it is in a brilliant position.One thing baffles me,they have had damage to the right hand side of the roof for over 12 months yet they have had the left hand side re-roofed and seem to have left the damaged side,bamboozled.

Yes, I was baffled also. The lower section of roof is covered with black plastic sheeting, but higher up where the tiles are missing there's a visible hole in the roof. I don't know what they do when it rains. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on June 02, 2012, 03:28:09 pm
What's happening with the Ship at Rhos on Sea? Having pre-booked a table for 1pm today (Saturday) for 3, there was not another customer in the place, no one in the bar and only the 3 of us in the restaurant part. It was said there is a make-over going on but slowly. This place used to be heaving for its carvery especially at weekends.

The carvery meal was however very enjoyable
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on June 11, 2012, 12:46:56 pm
I heard a rumour over the weekend that the new owner of The Wash has applied for a casino licence. Has anybody else heard anything?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2012, 12:56:05 pm
I heard a rumour over the weekend that the new owner of The Wash has applied for a casino licence. Has anybody else heard anything?
It's rubbish. You can't apply for a Casino licence as new ones are only permitted in certain areas (none in North Wales).

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx (http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on June 11, 2012, 01:59:07 pm
I heard a rumour over the weekend that the new owner of The Wash has applied for a casino licence. Has anybody else heard anything?
It's rubbish. You can't apply for a Casino licence as new ones are only permitted in certain areas (none in North Wales).

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx (http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gambling_sectors/casinos/about_the_casinos_industry/about_casinos.aspx)

That's a bit disappointing, I was looking forward to some live poker!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2012, 08:08:31 am
That is 84 establishments in and around Llandudno were a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it.

With a new coffee shop now opened in C-y-D and another new coffee shop recently opened in Llwynon Road then the number of establishments in Llandudno where a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it rises to 86.

(I am sorry but I do not know the names of the two new cafes.)

Unless, of course, you know of any cafes that have closed down or any more new ones that have opened up since Caffe Nero.

86
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on June 13, 2012, 08:40:06 am
That is 84 establishments in and around Llandudno were a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it.

With a new coffee shop now opened in C-y-D and another new coffee shop recently opened in Llwynon Road then the number of establishments in Llandudno where a member of the general public can purchase a coffee and sit down to drink it rises to 86.

(I am sorry but I do not know the names of the two new cafes.)

Unless, of course, you know of any cafes that have closed down or any more new ones that have opened up since Caffe Nero.

86

Plus the new one on Llewellyn Avenue called Character's Tea House and there is also a cafe under Bonker's Play Centre in the church with no spire at the top of Llewellyn Avenue!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2012, 11:26:12 am
Jack, my apologies I got confused over Character’s Tea House.

I meant Llewelyn Avenue but I was unaware of a new café at Bonkers Fun Centre so that increases the total to 87.


87
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 11:51:36 am
Went into the new Caffe V in Craig Y Don yesterday - what an funny little place! We went in, sat down, only about 6 tables inside.  Standard of decoration as a bit ropey, as though it had been done in a rush.Two lads behind the counter. We asked for a menu and was told that everything was 'on the board'. So, we had to get up and go over to look at the board. That didn't take long - the food offer consisted of a few cakes and 3 types of sandwich. So much for my vision of a nice hot lunch!

We ordered coffee & cakes. Coffee arrived, the cakes were deposited still in their cellophane wrapper on the table, no plate or serviette! To be fair, coffee was very good indeed. It would be a good place to sit and look out of the window, but large vinyl stickers block the view at head height - oh dear!

So, we left a touch bemused! I can't help but think they will struggle unless they have a proper food offer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 14, 2012, 01:26:53 pm
OMG doesn't sound good-- hope the crumbs are cleared between customers. Any plates if you order a sandwich?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 01:33:14 pm
OMG doesn't sound good-- hope the crumbs are cleared between customers. Any plates if you order a sandwich?
I think you do get a plate if you buy a sandwich.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on June 14, 2012, 01:57:33 pm
Maybe they're just struggling to get the business started and it could get better as they learn the ropes. Could our roving reporter/reviewer possibly do a follow up visit at a later date?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on June 15, 2012, 12:13:45 am
how about telling them were they are going wrong, or should we wait until they go under and then tell them?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2012, 08:15:57 am
how about telling them were they are going wrong, or should we wait until they go under and then tell them?
Good idea, let me know how you get on.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 17, 2012, 07:16:11 am
Looks like the Escape shop in Upper Mostyn st is to become another cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2012, 08:33:38 am
Looks like the Escape shop in Upper Mostyn st is to become another cafe.
No way! Now that Hoosons Corner is shown as 'To Let' again, could that become another cafe as was originally mooted?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 17, 2012, 08:34:28 am
Surely not so close to all the others?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on June 17, 2012, 12:56:31 pm
Looks like the Escape shop in Upper Mostyn st is to become another cafe.
No way! Now that Hoosons Corner is shown as 'To Let' again, could that become another cafe as was originally mooted?

Looks like our "cafe critics" are going to have to pack in their jobs to get round them all!

I was in Cardiff recently and was amazed by the number of coffee shops on the main streets. It got me wondering if maybe this is the new way to go for high streets around the country? It is surely better than lines of empty shops.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2012, 05:31:03 pm
It's not sustainable though, is it? More and more coffee shops mean that less will be spent in each, making some unviable as businesses.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 17, 2012, 06:27:03 pm
It just means the weak will have to up their game or disappear.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llechwedd on June 18, 2012, 12:16:26 pm
Wht are there so many tattoo shops suddenly appearing?  There's even one in Deganwy now.  I can understand betting shops as people are desparete to get some more money but tattoos?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2012, 12:58:51 pm
To be frank, I did not think the one in Mostyn Street would survive but it has and there is now one in Madoc Street and another C-y-D.

Obviously, there must be a demand.

I guess from the younger ago group or am I mistaken?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on June 18, 2012, 08:58:18 pm
Wht are there so many tattoo shops suddenly appearing?  There's even one in Deganwy now.  I can understand betting shops as people are desparete to get some more money but tattoos?

The tattoo place in Deganwy has been there at least 15 months based on this bit of free publicity (dated 18/02/11) - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/18/north-wales-man-has-ann-robinson-tattoo-55578-28193290/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/18/north-wales-man-has-ann-robinson-tattoo-55578-28193290/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paddy on June 18, 2012, 09:36:05 pm
It's not sustainable though, is it? More and more coffee shops mean that less will be spent in each, making some unviable as businesses.

Clearly shops aren't viable either!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2012, 10:04:14 pm
I'm told the former Burger King premises in Mostyn Street has now been let. Piccolinos Italian restaurant in the rumoured tenant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on June 25, 2012, 11:12:38 am
If that's true, that will be great news! Piccolino's food is excellent and they have a great reputation around the Manchester/Chester area.

I do hope it's true, but am not sure there would be enough of a demographic around Llandudno for them. They tend to be found in very wealthy suburbs around Manchester (Hale, Didsbury etc.), so moving to a location in Mostyn Street would be new for them I suspect.

But saying that I suppose there is money around the area and with visitors perhaps they think there is enough.

Still if it happens it'll be a serious shot in the arm for that area as their restaurants are beautiful and just the kind of private investment the town needs. Doubtless we'll get a lot of naysayers saying it's too expensive for Llandudno and locals won't be able to afford it etc. ad infinitum. But I think we already have a lot of mediocre 'Italian' restaurants in town, that charge too much, so to have a really decent Italian eatery would be hugely positive.

But who knows, maybe this is jumping the gun anyway.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2012, 09:13:45 pm
Lots of activity in the former Burger King in Mostyn Street today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 04, 2012, 03:12:11 pm
A bit out of the Three Towns area I know, but a nice run out is the Black Lion in Llanfair TH. Last time we were there they were coping with a flood but all was well today and we had a delicious lunch of chicken and bacon with a mozzarella cheese sauce.
Hope you are not feeling hungry!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2012, 05:26:03 pm
That meal looks yummy!  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 04, 2012, 05:52:45 pm
I'm told the former Burger King premises in Mostyn Street has now been let. Piccolinos Italian restaurant in the rumoured tenant.

A couple of tweets earlier today from a certain Mr Flannigan suggest otherwise:

Happy Independence day fellows is it true about who is coming to 72 MostynSt ,watch this space

Begins with C thats all i will say


That is if the former Burger King is number 72.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 04, 2012, 08:53:33 pm
Costa,hot or cold Bri.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 04, 2012, 09:19:41 pm
By coincidence, Mr Flannigan has already been tweeted:

Did the lease costa lot?  :-D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2012, 10:26:17 pm
Colin says its not Costa.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 05, 2012, 06:59:33 am
Its not a large firm doing the work so it seems to me to be a local or small concern.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 06, 2012, 12:26:54 pm
Bri any updates on the restaurant name.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 06, 2012, 01:49:26 pm
Is it definitely going to be a restaurant, wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 17, 2012, 04:43:55 pm
Bri any updates on the restaurant name.

Has anybody heard of The Great American Disaster Restaurant?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 04:57:09 pm
Well we have now,looks like something from Happy Days,The Fonz would like it.So we have gone from a classy Italian too a Burger bar,oh well its jobs and one less empty shop.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 06:03:22 pm
This is the guy behind the new 'American Disaster Bar & Grill' in the former Burger King, Craig Holmes:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/914974451 (http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/914974451)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 17, 2012, 06:21:34 pm
Velly Interlesting!    D)

Don't recall seeing any of the other companies around.   Hope it goes well. $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 06:33:41 pm
I thought it was being done up by a group of locals and not a big firm.There seems to be no website for this company.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on July 17, 2012, 06:41:29 pm
Is it a franchise?
The Great American Disaster Restaurant Group is an American company who owned amongst other things the Hard Rock Cafe before they sold out to the Rank Organisation.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 07:06:01 pm
I assume it's some sort of tribute, as the original chain doesnt appear to exist any more.

Looking forward to giving it a whirl. Burgers on you, Wrex?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 09:06:11 pm
Why me?.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 09:11:39 pm
Why not?  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 10:07:31 pm
Might not be up to Fat Cat standard.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 10:31:28 pm
It shall be tried, it shall be reviewed...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 18, 2012, 12:04:44 am
I look forward immensely to huge portions of RIBS..... and CHICKEN WINGS!!!!   $dins$ $dins$ $elvis$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on July 18, 2012, 02:09:04 am
There was a Great American Disaster restaurant in Chester years ago,  very good burgers in nice surroundings  in the days before McDonalds took over.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ludo on July 18, 2012, 06:37:03 am
There was a Great American Disaster restaurant in Chester years ago,  very good burgers in nice surroundings  in the days before McDonalds took over.

I remember it too - way back in my time at Crane Wharf. I had quite a few pleasant experiences in there back in the 80s. I seem to remember it was down Lower Bridge Street just before the Bear and Billet on the same side of the street. It was good food and a really good atmosphere - and the prices were very reasonable...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 08:42:04 am
Remember, this is the 'American Disaster', not the 'Great American Disaster'.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on July 18, 2012, 09:03:34 am
It was definitely called the Great American Disaster, and was  in the area Ludo describes. It had  blown up photos of the Kennedys and the  Speakeasy  days on the walls and blown up newspaper cuttings. I was always impressed by the four different types of relish you would get  with your food (it was the 1970's!) and the prices were reasonable!

Would an "American Disaster"  restaurant be considered appropriate these days?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2012, 09:07:07 am
Plenty of America Presidents and Politicians one could name the Burgers after!     _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 09:47:29 am
It was definitely called the Great American Disaster, and was  in the area Ludo describes. It had  blown up photos of the Kennedys and the  Speakeasy  days on the walls and blown up newspaper cuttings. I was always impressed by the four different types of relish you would get  with your food (it was the 1970's!) and the prices were reasonable!

Would an "American Disaster"  restaurant be considered appropriate these days?
My point was this isn't the same business as in Chester, just someone 'borrowing' the name and changing it slightly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2012, 10:17:55 am
That is interesting, DaveR, because I spoke to someone at the site yesterday afternoon and he told me the name of the business.

I then asked if the business a one-off or was it part of a national chain and he informed me it was everywhere in the UK and abroad.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 10:25:22 am
I suspect he's talking nonsense. Do a Google search on the name in the UK and you will only find memories of restaurants that closed 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2012, 10:55:37 am
I won't disagree but he is not going to help the new business venture with than kind of spin.  :-}}}
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 11:24:56 am
Agreed!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 18, 2012, 11:29:01 am
Seems strange wanting to call any business 'Disaster' what's the point?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2012, 01:48:44 pm
Just look at the interest the Titanic has had since 1912!!!!    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 18, 2012, 02:50:19 pm
I wonder how many have used the Titanic restaurant  in the last hundred years? I always think a business name should sound positive, or is it like when bad means good etc?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on July 18, 2012, 03:12:16 pm
The original Great American Disaster restaurants had the walls covered in New York Times front pages covering things such as the Wall Street Crash, the Hindenburg disaster & the assassination of JFK amongst others.  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 18, 2012, 04:09:24 pm
Lets hope they have front page news from theNWWN ,beach disaster,specials disaster,flower bed s disaster,xmas lights disaster.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 18, 2012, 04:29:28 pm
Lets hope they have front page news from theNWWN ,beach disaster,specials disaster,flower bed s disaster,xmas lights disaster.

 _))* good point Wrex!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2012, 04:38:36 pm
A couple of tweets earlier today from a certain Mr Flannigan suggest otherwise:

Happy Independence day fellows is it true about who is coming to 72 MostynSt ,watch this space

Begins with C thats all i will say


The licensee is Mr Craig William Holmes
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2012, 06:05:05 pm
Lets hope they have front page news from theNWWN ,beach disaster,specials disaster,flower bed s disaster,xmas lights disaster.
You're too much, Wrex!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 18, 2012, 07:56:41 pm
I wonder how many have used the Titanic restaurant  in the last hundred years? I always think a business name should sound positive, or is it like when bad means good etc?  ???

There is a fantastic restaurant named the Titanic in Praia da Rocha, Algarve that we have been using for over 30 years.   Fabulous food and at reasonable prices.    ZXZ

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g652081-d1074077-Reviews-Titanic_Restaurant-Praia_da_Rocha_Portimao_Algarve.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g652081-d1074077-Reviews-Titanic_Restaurant-Praia_da_Rocha_Portimao_Algarve.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 19, 2012, 08:01:30 am
Dave you know me,it might take another decade to get some decent xmas lights or to clean the beach,but i will keep trying.Town and county councillors beware i ain;t dying yet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 19, 2012, 09:12:38 am
Remember, this is the 'American Disaster', not the 'Great American Disaster'.  ;)

The full title will be American Disaster Bar and Grill
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 20, 2012, 07:14:58 am
What has happened here is that a local has invested in the buiding, so the rent has been halved making viable for the Rhyl buisnessman to come into Llandudno and open up,he must be related too Holmes plaice next to the Carlton.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 20, 2012, 07:27:59 am
Elementary my dear wrex.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2012, 05:35:15 pm
I had a lovely afternoon tea at Bodysgallen Hall yesterday and a walk around the grounds afterwards.  It was a nice experience and the weather was good too and it didn't break the bank either.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 25, 2012, 09:23:40 pm
Glad you enjoyed your tea Hugo.

We have had drinks in two very different establishments on Lower Bridge Street in Chester today.
The first photo is a list of the beers above the fireplace in The Tap. I'm not certain but I think this could have been the old location for the Great American Disaster restaurant that was being discussed here recently. It is now a place specialising in unusual beers.

Then we went further up the street to Oddfellows Hall. This is a hotel now and it has a lovely garden restaurant at the back.
It's a place to go especially if you have an interest in interior design. It is really quirky.
Lovely place to sit out on a nice day (see second photo).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2012, 08:55:29 am
A second branch of Llandudno coffee shop Cafe Culture will be opening on the Square in Conwy this weekend. Photo courtesy of Colin Flannigan:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2012, 01:02:01 pm
I was sad to see today that the 55 Diner at Llanddulas had closed down and was boarded up. It's always been a great family owned business, that served excellent quality food and drink at reasonable prices.
I saw that the former 55 Diner is now up for rent, nil premium, offers invited! Previously, it was offered at £30k a year. I see no reason why it can't be operated very profitably at a lower rent.  ;)

http://www.christie.com/search/property/47/restaurant_unit_llanddulas_for_sale_42816 (http://www.christie.com/search/property/47/restaurant_unit_llanddulas_for_sale_42816)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2012, 08:42:02 pm
The new Conwy branch of Cafe Culture:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 07:58:48 am
Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 07, 2012, 09:17:47 am
Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.

What do you want (or need) a Burger Bar for?   Get some real food!    Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 05:27:24 pm
Just being nosey,i won;t be eating there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2012, 07:13:27 pm
Work seems to have ground to a halt there in the last week.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2012, 12:26:06 am
Just being nosey,i won;t be eating there.

I most certainly WILL be eating there..... RIBS.... CHICKEN..... BURGERS!!!!   Mmmmmmm    $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 08, 2012, 07:42:55 am
Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.

There is an application for an alcohol licence displayed in the window with a date of 16 July 2012.

I wonder if the applicant been slow in applying for a licence?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 08, 2012, 08:19:10 am
Quote
Work seems to have ground to a halt there in the last week

Suppose that's appropriate for a burger bar... WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2012, 08:32:17 am
Very good, Ian.  :laugh:

Whatever the reason, they will almost certainly not be open before the end of August and thus miss out on peak trading weeks.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2012, 09:00:53 am

I most certainly WILL be eating there..... RIBS.... CHICKEN..... BURGERS!!!!   Mmmmmmm    $dins$ $dins$ $dins$

Cholesterol, calories, pounds, NHS!!!!!     ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 08, 2012, 09:51:18 am
Indigestion !! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on August 13, 2012, 09:03:02 am
Any idea when our Burger bar is opening,seems to be dragging this one,unless CCBC have held it up.

I know, and you are going to love this.........

.....as most will know, the premises were previously a Burger King, National Milk Bar, Etc, so, obviously, had planning permission to sell food.
Unfortunately, the last people to rent it, were the people who did about 6 weeks of selling Christmas stuff, so the council have made the new owners apply for 'change of consent', so they can sell food.

Rules is rules, I hear you say, but the Christmas shop owners NEVER changed any permissions/regulations or applied for any 'change of use', so why the need for a re-application?

The owners are not happy, nor the 20 staff that they have had to lay off, while they await their application 'to sell food' to come through.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 13, 2012, 10:19:07 am
Typical bureaucratic nonsense! Utter madness! Aren't these councils meant to be servants of the people, seems to be the other way round!  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 10:25:24 am
I cant see any Planning Application for Change of Use? Is it very recent?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 08:08:36 pm
I see the corner of the canopy at Cafe Culture is propped up with an acroprop - has it been hit by something?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2012, 08:48:31 pm
It was only 7 aug that i asked the question have CCBC held this up and less than a week later we hear they may have ,yet nobody bats an eyelid,what is wrong with this town,nobody seems to give a damn that we are governed by a bunch of idiots from the councillors too the council officials. Cock up after cock up,from Travelodge,to grass cutting,from clearing the main beach too building works on the prom at the hight of the season ,now to holding up a buisness that is trying to open in Llandudno,it goes on and on,CCBC have let Network rail and the Assembly take the mick out off our station project for 12 years while,Newport was rushed through for the Ryder cup,Swansea a brand new station,we let everybody walk all over us without a word,i suppose we get what we deserve.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2012, 09:03:09 pm
No information or lack of contact between people happens in all areas of life,  Wrex!   After all we are all human.    :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2012, 09:12:48 pm
Just spent the weekend in York and very nice too,every concievable chain there,some with two outlets,now im not comparing us with them but the fact that we can;t interest one restaurant too commit too Llandudno makes me wonder if CCBC have something to do with it,we know they have damaged a lot of projects in town so it just makes me wonder why not one seems to think we are worthy off their buisness.In York they encourage coaches and mobile homes too stay for the day by supplying special parking facilities,why make coaches leave brodway at the weekend whan we only get about 10 a day coming ,crazy but who  gives a fig what CCBC do to this town
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on August 13, 2012, 09:39:36 pm
I know naff all about politics but I do find myself gobsmacked sometimes by by the totally A*** upwards approach of Cbeebies.  It just seems that no matter who you vote for locally once voted in it's a case of "right...blankets over heads...let's go get a free lunch."
There's a comment over on Oscars that made me think earlier:

"Conwy IS the "Sick Man of Wales "
Is Conwy Council absolutely "Not fit for purpose"

The setting up of Conwy Council is proving to have been a Political
"Con Job"
Can we have our money back or a least an apology
The people of Conwy deserve better!
A damn sight better


How can we change it though? If Conwy is just a nice building full of muppets then the orders will invariably come from way over our heads....which is why things have got worse maybe?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 10:25:16 pm
After talking with a local businessman earlier, we both came to the conclusion that the planning issues problem with the American Disaster Restaurant sounds a bit fishy. If a precedent was previously set with it having restaurant use, then there is pretty much no way it can be refused even if a new planning application was required, therefore no reason not to open business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 14, 2012, 11:27:18 am
We discussed this issue and our thoughts were the same. Planning surely wasn't needed??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 14, 2012, 11:32:40 am
There are, of course, many other reasons why a business fails to get under-way, apart from Planning Approval.    :D

Such could be the case here.    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2012, 10:42:48 am
Latest set of Planning Applications are available. No mention of the American Disaster?

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/514/appswk19.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/514/appswk19.pdf)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on August 16, 2012, 03:50:29 pm
Could there have been an objection to an alcohol license being issued?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on August 16, 2012, 04:06:11 pm
Just checked the licensing section of the website - last date for representations was on Tuesday, 14 August.

Hours of operation shown as:

Opening: Mon - Sun: 08.00 – 00.00
Alcohol: Mon - Sun: 11.00 – 00.00
Recorded Music: Mon - Sun: 09.00 – 00.00
Late Night Refreshments: Mon - Sun 23.00 – 00.00

I can imagine at least one objection purely on the grounds that to be honest Llandudno has enough establishments with alcohol licences already.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on August 16, 2012, 04:38:59 pm
I think any objection has to be specifically related to one of the four licensing objectives.  If there's no objection then the licence is granted in the terms applied for.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2012, 09:49:19 pm
I see the American Disaster Restaurant is still nowhere near opening - they have missed the entire Summer season. Why didn't they just open without the alcohol licence and get the benefit of the Summer trade? Interestingly, I believe the American Disaster's owner also owns Cafe Express in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on August 31, 2012, 12:26:47 pm
In that case i won`t be going there, took my grandson for lunch to Cafe Express a couple of weeks ago it was terrible, everything was either frozen or microwaved.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 10, 2012, 11:02:49 am
Publishers Book Clearance have started an End of Lease sale. Does this mean that someone else has taken a proper lease on that shop? 8)

Staff were informed on Saturday they are now closing down.

All stock is reduced to £1 with a few items at 50p.

.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2012, 11:45:44 am
Must pop in there this afternoon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 10, 2012, 03:45:14 pm
No Dave, they are selling BOOKS for £1, .... not coffee!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 12, 2012, 10:21:40 pm
Someone may have to remind me of the LAW on this subject, but I have to make a point on the subject of children in pubs.

Basically, tonight in one of Llandudno's best venues, Dave R and I were trying to enjoy a meal.

The venue we were in is in the upper-bracket when it comes to charging, so in effect you are also paying for the atmosphere.

However, even up to 9.15pm, there was a large family with children and a very tiny new baby, getting served on an adjacent table.  Admittedly the family had been there since before 6pm, (which to me is an issue in itself)  &shake&
The baby was restless, and basically screamed the place down throughout the time we were eating our meal.

Call me an old misery if you like, but I just don't think its right that children, never mind babies, should be in pubs at those times.
The meal, despite the incessant wailing, was excellent by the way!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2012, 10:26:45 pm
I do agree with Fester on this one, I don't want to pay top dollar for food/drink and have to listen to a baby screaming whilst I'm eating. Why would anyone bring a tiny baby into a pub or bar and keep them there until that time of evening anyway? I was in Caffe Nero earlier and there was a kid screaming the place down there too - it's supposed be an upmarket coffee shop where people go to relax.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 13, 2012, 07:33:53 am
I'm not at all sure pubs are the right place for young children, and a continuously screaming baby suggests that some action needed to be taken by the mother, or whoever was caring for the child. Most parents of very young children and babies are aware of the effect of screaming and shouting offspring on other people. and usually take steps to minimise the problem.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 13, 2012, 08:37:17 am
I agree with you there Ian, the trouble today ( sounding old!) is that some mothers think that their children can do no wrong. This is well illustrated by their attitude to their offspring in shops. They are either riffling through the goods or talking on their phones whilst the kids run riot.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 14, 2012, 03:39:43 pm
This topic reminds me of a trip we took to York 26 years ago. In the evening I went to a very nice restaurant for a meal with my wife and very young son who woke up just as the meal arrived. We spent the next hour taking it in turn to stand outside the restaurant so as not to spoil other diners evening. Then came the realisation that things had changed and with young children you have to amend your lifestyle.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 15, 2012, 02:18:02 pm
Firstly Children of any age are allowed in pubs up until the time imposed in the way of a restriction on their license by the local licensing Authority.
Children can also drink Ale Cider and Porter on the condition that they have not been served it themselves and that it is consumed with a bone fide meal. Normally consumed via an implement IE Knife and Fork. Or maybe chop sticks depending on their culture.
Some local licensing authorities may differ from others depending upon their social attitudes. But in this area the authority may prefer children to be in a pub up until a certain time as long as they are accompanied by a parent or responsible person.
One of the 4 licensing objectives is the safety of children and keeping children from harm.
Children must not purchase alcohol nor are you allowed to purchase alcohol for a child in a pub unless to be included with a genuine meal and then the type of drink is restricted. nor are you allowed to sell alcohol to someone who is knowingly going to pass the alcohol. (to a person under 18)
Basically the licence  must operate their business within the parameters of the Licensing act and also within the restrictions imposed by the local Licensing Authority.
But if the children are noisy, screaming or upset then they should consider that the child is disturbing others  which is not good for business.
The final argument is this. if a child is noisy through enjoyment , that is one thing. but if a child is making a noisy as a result of their objection to being subjected to an alcohol environment then does that break the law. don't forget the 4 licensing objectives one of which is the safety and welfare of children.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 15, 2012, 02:41:02 pm
It is quite common to see a "Father and son" in a pub  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2012, 05:52:38 pm
Good info, Cat, you know your stuff.  $good$  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2012, 02:36:13 pm
I see the American Disaster Restaurant is still nowhere near opening - they have missed the entire Summer season. Why didn't they just open without the alcohol licence and get the benefit of the Summer trade? Interestingly, I believe the American Disaster's owner also owns Cafe Express in Llandudno.

There is finally a notice on a pole on the pavement near to the restaurant referring to planning permission.

No doubt, DaveR, will know how to find the application reference number 0/39194.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2012, 11:03:58 pm
I poked my nose into the American Diner doorway today.
It looks like its only a few days away from being ready to open.
But, at this time of year, will it be busy enough to get through to next years peak season?

I'll be giving it a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 20, 2012, 08:31:40 pm
I'll be giving it a try.

I'm with you on this one Fester, I'll try it first and then decide if it was worth the effort.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2012, 05:33:20 pm
I do hope somebody invests in a new young pub soon,the town is looseing its appeal for youngsters who are turning to Bangor for their nites out,we know its a university city and its easier to attract your Yates winebars but if nobody invests in Llandudno  soon i thinks the days of people coming in for a nite out at the weekend could be numbered.The old folk on the council will not have a clue what i am on about,are only hope is for the Clarence or the Tudno Castle to incorperate one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 23, 2012, 09:53:19 pm
I was in the rugby club last night and there were five young ladies on the next table and they where all off to Bangor for the night ,to a new bar that was opening,as i said in my last post Llandudno has now lost out to the younger people of the town as nobody wants to invest in the nitelife of Llandudno,i know there will be a lot of people saying thank god but this is not good for the economy of our town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2012, 10:46:46 pm
Wrex, I was in The Gresham last night, it was very busy as it now serves tapas of the highest quality, accompanied by live Spanish music.  The FatCat an Fountains were busy too, but at different times.
There was a band on in The Townhouse, and that was packed around midnight.

I understand that a Tapas restuarant is not for the younger clientele as you say, and I agree that there are few vibrant places for nightlife for the 'younger end' in Llandudno.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 24, 2012, 08:30:50 am
I was in the Cross Keys friday nite,heaving as a local band where on,all im bothered about is we are driving our youngsters away,nothing we can do about it,Bangor is now the place to go all im hopeing is we manage to attract a buisnesses dealing with the young,remember even if they showed an interest they haet passed our council first.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 24, 2012, 03:05:52 pm
Bangor is a University Town Wrex, we will never be able to compete with them, but just think what Llandudno had to offer 10 years ago and then consider what Upper Mostyn Street offers now. A huge change mainly directed at our younger generation  Z**  WWW  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 27, 2012, 09:57:24 pm
One of the problems that has contributed to the exodus of the younger element is the fact that the local Licensing Authority have been wielding their ever ending campaign of trying to catch out the licensees by sending in a youngster into a venue in the hope that they get served then they issue an £80 fine and possibly a criminal record to the poor unsuspecting bar person.
If a venue is caught twice in three months they then enforce a 48 hour closure period which is enforced on a weekend of their choice. (Licensing Authority Choice)
About 2 years ago they closed three pubs in Abergele on the same weekend.
This action in turn makes the licensee very defensive and as a result they choose to exercise the 25 rule, whereupon any person trying to enter a particular venue has to if they look under 25 prove that they are over 18.. which in some sense is all well and good and if you wish to have a good night out then you must carry identification which incidentally can only be 1. A Driving Licence. 2. A Passport. 3 A PASS card which is issued by the home office. NO OTHER IDENTIFICATION WILL SUFFICE..
Nowthen picture the situation . 10 youngsters plan on going out on the town for the night but only eight of then have the relevant Identification then you will have to change your plans or leave your mates (not the rubber kind) at home or you have the option of going to Bangor which is controlled by a different Licensing Authority with different ethics .
I maintain that the evening economy in LLandudno has been damaged a result of the Gestapo style tactics of the Local Licensing enforcement team.  Yes you are quite right 10 years ago there were more youngsters out in the pubs which in turn added to the numbers and made Mostyn very vibrant place to be. but over The last 7 years the Local Licensing Authority have treated the younger element with contempt, and driven them away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 27, 2012, 11:04:35 pm
Good point - I'm almost 30 and I often get asked for ID - but (as recently as last week in a supermarket) I don't carry my passport around with me and don't drive so if I get asked then  I don't get served, very annoying  $angry$

Incidentally though, I'm sure I read that these young people sent in by the licencing authority have to tell the truth about their age if they're just asked - so if the person behind the bar says "Are you 18?" They would have to say no. So no need to ask for ID they can just ask for the age.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 27, 2012, 11:07:24 pm
Also to further back up Yusuf's point, I get asked for ID more often now than I did when I was 18 and 19.
Now I know I have maintained my youthful good looks  ;) But I'd be surprised if I look younger now than I did over ten years ago  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 27, 2012, 11:57:09 pm
I have to take up that point regarding the licensing authority.

I frequent many of the pubs in Llandudno..  ZXZ  and I have seen what I consider to be an injustice several occasions.
In my experience, The Fat Cat and The Fountains Bar are both very well managed, very considerate to the local residents and extremely compliant in terms of regulations.
However I notice that they are targeted by the police and licensing authorities on an inordinate amount of occasions.
This creates upheaval and inconvenience for the managers, plus a feeling of unease for the customer.

However, several other pubs in Llandudno are appallingly run, noisy and obviously flout many regulations.
To date, I have NEVER seen the police or licensing authorities ever enter those premises.

I wonder why?   ?{}?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 28, 2012, 09:04:58 am
Since the introduction of the licensing regulations in 2005 the drinking culture of Britain has changed dramatically.
I remember when I was 16ish i was able to buy a pint in several pubs with friends who were older than myself. however I did look 18 years of age.
No ID was ever asked for and most young people from the age of 18 would frequent the pub at least twice a week. I am talking about the 70's when you would not find large gangs of kids gathering in the park drinking cheep alcohol. In the 70's  it would take 4 kids to club together to buy a 24 pack of lager, now however a youngster on his own can buy then with their pocket money.
In the 70's to gain a license all you had to do was stand up in-front the licensing committee at one of 12 Brewster sessions at the local magistrates court, and as long as you were a fit and proper person they would grant you a license.
Now however you have to sit a test hosted by a home office recognised body and prove that you have a good understanding of the licensing law together with its main objectives. Then you have to produce a clean criminal Record Check. Apply to the council for a licence who inturn also have the power to revoke it if you break any of the licensing objectives..
I say this.
Licensees now are more qualified and much more responsible in their workplace to look after the customers who frequent their businesses.
So why is it that the local council and the licensing authority are almost forcing the youngsters out into the parks to drink cheep supermarket booze in an unsupervised location
I'm not saying that kids under the age of 18 should drink alcohol. But the pub is a supervised drinking establishment policed by the Licensee and their staff. and wouldn't that be a safer environment.
Remember the days when the last bell rang at closing time. that was it. It was off for a kebab and home you went.
Not so now you can sit up the local park and the only thing that finishes the night is when you run out of booze.
Or when you sit in your arm chair at home their is no bell to signal last orders so no one to say stop you have had enough.
If you go to Bangor you will find a much more relaxed approach to alcohol. there are no underagers in the pubs but their are pleaty of youngsters learning how to be adults. I say the problem here in LLandudno is a result of local authority influence.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 28, 2012, 09:53:54 am
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So why is it that the local council and the licensing authority are almost forcing the youngsters out into the parks to drink cheep supermarket booze in an unsupervised location

You make some interesting points, Cat. What's worth considering is why culture has changed.  And I'm not sure it's changed as recently as you suggest.

To deal with your quoted (above) point first: councils - and all politicians - are fuelled mainly by fear; primarily  of losing their jobs come the next election, but also from a deep seated fear that they don't have all the answers they suggested they might when standing for the last one.  In a way, that's perfectly understandable, but the consequence for voters is they have to suffer the knee jerk' response to events. Since the mid 2000s several TV companies have been making a series of 'fly-on-the-wall' documentaries in which they've focussed on policing inner city streets at night.  Naturally, quiet streets where little happens after dark don't make for good audience figures, whereas scenes of screaming, abusive, physically violent and utterly inebriated denizens of the night, do - in spades - and thus the advertisers pay more to fill the programme slots. Unfortunately, some of the national media - the DFM leading the charge - print absurd claims and stories, attempting to insinuate that such scenes are totally typical of the decline of modern youth and the degeneration of the country under (fill in appropriate party here) is all but unstoppable. I've never worked out why, but politicians actually take notice of some newspapers, and thus the reactions are born.

What we're seeing in Conwy with regard to the licensing situation can be traced back - I think - to a series of 'exposés' regarding under-age drinking in the area by the local press. Local councils reacted and we have the current situation.

But I also think you make a salient point when you say
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In the 70's  it would take 4 kids to club together to buy a 24 pack of lager, now however a youngster on his own can buy then with their pocket money.

There's little doubt in my mind that the supermarket pricing strategies have allowed youngsters to get alcohol very cheaply compared with the past and - regrettably - there are plenty of adults willing to help them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 28, 2012, 12:43:55 pm
Is there a OAP NIMBY-ism going on in the area?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on September 28, 2012, 01:40:46 pm
I hate to state the obvious and run counter to your arguements, but isn't the council simply enforcing the law of the land, which states that it is an offence to sell alcohol to under 18s. You seem to be saying that if only they were allowed to serve who they want, when they want, at whatever age they want, that all would be hunky-dory. I think it's right that licensees who are breaking the law, should be held to account for doing so. That is the law, like we all have to follow. 

Llandudno is not a great night out it has to be said, but that is mainly because we have far fewer 20-35 year olds than other areas as they escape to areas where there are jobs and a bit of life. Bangor has a university and favourable demographics.

It was a problem when Bartons/Annabelles closed as that kept people in the town centre, but that closed due to structural problems in the building so could not really be helped.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 28, 2012, 02:44:15 pm
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I hate to state the obvious and run counter to your arguements,

Whose arguments?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 28, 2012, 04:22:49 pm
Today the OH and I had a run out and finished for a coffee at the Welsh Food Centre at Bodnant.  Place still has workmen doing things and it was very quiet.  I would suspect that most of the cars present belonged to the staff.   Had two cappuccinos at the extortionate price of £4.90 which included queuing at the counter (by oneself) and waiting for what seemed an eternity.  No small biscuit or similar offered.  The cappuccinos were not the best available locally.  Two other people having a snack and about 6 people having ice creams.

Went into the shop and disgusted at the quality of the "fresh produce" - Cauliflowers soft and blown, Carrots soft and old, much a similar story with other items.

All pre-packed stuff too expensive for me and the bit of Welsh Black Fillet I fancied was over £41.00 a kilo!   Needless to say if I had to shop there I would soon become a vegetarian - except for their veggies, of course!   It is going to be a long time before we venture up their path again.   What a sad situation.
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 28, 2012, 07:53:48 pm
Today the OH and I had a run out and finished for a coffee at the Welsh Food Centre at Bodnant. Two other people having a snack and about 6 people having ice creams.

Went into the shop and disgusted at the quality of the "fresh produce" - Cauliflowers soft and blown, Carrots soft and old, much a similar story with other items.

All pre-packed stuff too expensive

I'm with you on this one Yorkie, I threw my ice cream away as it was nothing but grease. Everything in the shop was way overpriced.  :o  I think it’s been built to cater for the Cruise ship market and most certainly not for locals on a budget. I've been once and wo'nt waist my time going back a second time. However I do love going around the Gardens and think what has been achieved there is a credit to the National Trust
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 29, 2012, 07:19:33 am
There ain't gonna be any cruise ship market in this area, and old aged pensioners on coach trips won't be buying much.  I think they have about 6 or 8 bays allocated for coaches.  Time will tell.    L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2012, 10:41:22 am
Haven't been there for a look yet-- but you are certainly putting me in doubt !
I can't be doing with anything which isn't fresh and/or good value. Blongb-- your ice cream sounds disgusting-- think I'll stick to Asda ! ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 29, 2012, 01:18:05 pm
The best Ice Cream is at ALDI.  Stop there and buy some!    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on September 29, 2012, 05:37:07 pm
Give the place 6 months and there will be a change of manager
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2012, 11:05:17 am
Have been into Coffee V in Craig Y Don a few more times since it opened. Its improved a lot, they now have a range of paninis/sandwiches etc. Well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2012, 12:48:52 pm
The American Disaster Restaurant is now recruiting staff, so opening cannot be too far away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on October 16, 2012, 04:22:59 pm
I notice that the Pebbles Restaurant is for sale on a new lease.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 21, 2012, 01:53:39 pm
Harvey;s the American restaurant should be open by the end of the week,then there is nothing left to look forward too.Oh the xmas lights of course.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 23, 2012, 12:53:51 pm
It looks very nice from outside in the street.

The owners appear to have dropped the original name and are now calling it Harvey's - New York Bar and Grill.

We shall give it a try over the coming days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on October 23, 2012, 02:19:14 pm
6 of us went to East on Augusta Street last night to celebrate a friend’s birthday.  The food was fantastic and very reasonably priced.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2012, 04:06:46 pm
Last week our retirement group had their Autumn lunch at the Royal Oak in Betws Y Coed and it was delicious.  The meal and everything was faultless and this was the third Autumn running that we have had our lunch there but I'm certain that we'll be back again next October.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 23, 2012, 07:31:00 pm
It looks very nice from outside in the street.

The owners appear to have dropped the original name and are now calling it Harvey's - New York Bar and Grill.

We shall give it a try over the coming days.
I was looking at it with Fester earlier. Signage looks very good indeed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 25, 2012, 07:04:07 pm
Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 25, 2012, 07:05:52 pm
Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update
Tomorrow or Saturday, I hear.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 26, 2012, 01:47:07 pm
Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update

It opened today and it seems me and Mrs R may have beaten DaveR to have a coffee in there before him.  D)

It is very nice inside.

The burgers look very attractive and it is well worth a visit.

Mrs R had a chat with the owner and he informed Mrs R his planning permission only came through earlier this week

Although the premises has always been selling food, as we all know (National Milk Bar, Wimpy and Burger King), it is easy to forget it was previously a pound shop for a while.

Whatever difference that makes it has obviously held him up and he missed the summer trade.

Harvey’s is a welcome addition to Mostyn Street and I hope everyone will do their best to support it over the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 29, 2012, 11:48:13 am
Need a report on Harvey;s please ,anybody been yet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 11:54:01 am
Might pop in later and give it a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 04:58:20 pm
Harvey's seems to be doing really well, was full when I went past just now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 29, 2012, 05:19:31 pm
Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update

It opened today and it seems me and Mrs R may have beaten DaveR to have a coffee in there before him.  D)

It is very nice inside.

The burgers look very attractive and it is well worth a visit.

Mrs R had a chat with the owner and he informed Mrs R his planning permission only came through earlier this week

Although the premises has always been selling food, as we all know (National Milk Bar, Wimpy and Burger King), it is easy to forget it was previously a pound shop for a while.

Whatever difference that makes it has obviously held him up and he missed the summer trade.

Harvey’s is a welcome addition to Mostyn Street and I hope everyone will do their best to support it over the coming weeks.

Do they sell vegetarian food in this Harveys?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on October 29, 2012, 06:22:52 pm
Harveys open yet,oh can;t be or DavR would have given us a coffee and burger update

It opened today and it seems me and Mrs R may have beaten DaveR to have a coffee in there before him.  D)

It is very nice inside.

The burgers look very attractive and it is well worth a visit.

Mrs R had a chat with the owner and he informed Mrs R his planning permission only came through earlier this week

Although the premises has always been selling food, as we all know (National Milk Bar, Wimpy and Burger King), it is easy to forget it was previously a pound shop for a while.

Whatever difference that makes it has obviously held him up and he missed the summer trade.

Harvey’s is a welcome addition to Mostyn Street and I hope everyone will do their best to support it over the coming weeks.

Do they sell vegetarian food in this Harveys?


I'm sure you'll get lettuce & tomato with your burger!   :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 29, 2012, 10:13:58 pm
I went past Harvey's at 6.30, it was quite busy... I am very pleased for them.

Born to Run.... in answer to your question about 'do they serve vegetarian food' ... well I expect the answer will be yes, but I hope they do not.
After all, I think that cows and sheep should have to take their chances just like cabbages and onions do!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 29, 2012, 10:49:33 pm
Went there tonight at 8,we had to wait for a table,it was fine ,obviously a few teething problems but we all enjoyed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2012, 04:06:42 pm
Need a report on Harvey;s please ,anybody been yet.

Went in with the Mrs just before 3 this afternoon, for a coffee.  Greeted with "We're busy and only do food when we're busy".  Decided to leave but then told we could have just coffee if we wished.  Sat down and the Greeter asked was I local, where from?   As is my normal wont I said Holland.    He was from Stoke-on-Trent.     So we sat down, and waited - and waited - and waited some more.   Then being fed up we left.   I wonder if we would have been served, or even had an order taken, more quickly had I been a local (which, of course, we all know, I am)?

I will go again and give them another try!  ZXZ

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2012, 05:07:16 pm
Need a report on Harvey;s please ,anybody been yet.

Went in with the Mrs just before 3 this afternoon, for a coffee.  Greeted with "We're busy and only do food when we're busy".  Decided to leave but then told we could have just coffee if we wished.  Sat down and the Greeter asked was I local, where from?   As is my normal wont I said Holland.    He was from Stoke-on-Trent.     So we sat down, and waited - and waited - and waited some more.   Then being fed up we left.   I wonder if we would have been served, or even had an order taken, more quickly had I been a local (which, of course, we all know, I am)?

I will go again and give them another try!  ZXZ

I wouldn't.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 01, 2012, 05:57:31 pm
I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2012, 07:25:38 pm

I wouldn't.  &shake&

Oh!  So I take it that we will not be having the Three Towns Christmas Party there?   ZXZ  ZXZ
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2012, 07:42:24 pm
I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway

Hope he doesn't have all the hassle he had with the Conwy shop!    ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2012, 11:45:44 pm
I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway

Oh Aye?   Whats going on there then?  *&( $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2012, 08:32:39 am
I see Nigel Roberts has applied for change of use from nawsagent to takeaway

Oh Aye?   Whats going on there then?  *&( $dins$
Nothing to worry about.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2012, 08:35:42 am
A3 planning has been applied for, not A5.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2012, 09:18:20 am
A3 planning has been applied for, not A5.
There's no A5 category, just A1, A2, A3.

Class A1. Shops
Use for all or any of the following purposes—
 (a) for the retail sale of goods other than hot food,
 (b) as a post office,
 (c) for the sale of tickets or as a travel agency,
 (d) for the sale of sandwiches or other cold food for consumption off the premises,
 (e) for hairdressing,
 (f) for the direction of funerals,
 (g) for the display of goods for sale,
 (h) for the hiring out of domestic or personal goods or articles,
 (i) for the reception of goods to be washed, cleaned or repaired,
where the sale, display or service is to visiting members of the public.

Class A2. Financial and professional services
Use for the provision of —
 (a) financial services, or
 (b) professional services (other than health or medical services), or
 (c) any other services (including use as a betting office) which it is appropriate to provide in a shopping area,
where the services are provided principally to visiting members of the public.

Class A3. Food and drink
Use for the sale of food or drink for consumption on the premises or of hot food for consumption off the premises.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 02, 2012, 09:58:12 am

Class A3. Food and drink
Use for the sale of food or drink for consumption on the premises or of hot food for consumption off the premises.

Not another bl***y cafe surely!   No wonder there is a lot of obesity in this country!    :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2012, 10:04:21 am
I read there is no A5 category in Wales, so does this fact lump together all sales of food-- eat in, eat out or whatever?
If it is going to be food and not news this will be good for Vollams---- unless???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 06, 2012, 06:48:04 pm
I've just been reading Harvey's first ever review on TripAdvisor and it doesn't make pleasant reading.  According to whoever wrote it when they complained about the food the manager's response was that they could f... off  :o.

They also got a good review as well so maybe it's improving.....

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d3601190-r144578414-Harveys_New_York_Bar_and_Grill-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d3601190-r144578414-Harveys_New_York_Bar_and_Grill-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2012, 08:16:06 pm
I read there is no A5 category in Wales, so does this fact lump together all sales of food-- eat in, eat out or whatever?
If it is going to be food and not news this will be good for Vollams---- unless???
There are no plans to close the Newsagents, it is just a potential option for the future.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 06, 2012, 08:56:28 pm
I've heard Vollams has just changed hands.  It's been bought by someone from Bangor who owns some newsagent shops over there.  The previous owner (Graham?) has been asked to stay on by the new owner to run the shop for him.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2012, 07:08:45 pm
Mr Fester and I visited Harveys this afternoon. I'll leave Fester to post his own review but I found it ok at best and somewhat overpriced for the quality of the food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 08, 2012, 07:28:23 pm
As Dave says, we have been looking to sample the wares at Harvey's New York Bar and Grill for a week or two now.
So tonight. we went for it!

On the plus side, the menu selection was very impressive.
It draws upon such places as Hard Rock Cafe for its inspiration, and considering they are a 'stand-alone' business and not a franchise, the variety is very good.
The decor is also quite impressive, and would not look out of place in a national chain of restaurants.
However, thats where the positives end.

I had the dozen chicken wings as a starter, (£4.99) and it was OK... just OK.
I suspect they had been fried a good while ago, and re-heated.   so a little less tasty than I would have hoped, but hey ho.

My main course was the 'Pulled Pork', .......the menu had 'recommended' marked by this dish. It costs £10.99
Well, they may recommend it, but I am afraid that I won't be.
Pulled Pork is a dish which Hard Rock Cafe specialise in, and its a big favourite of mine.
It looked fine on arrival, but I soon realised that it was tasteless and strangely watery.

Unlike me, I actually left some of it, I tried very hard to like it, but I just couldn't.

So, overall, I wish them well, and I think they will be packed out next holiday season... but if they are relying on repeat customers, then I think they might have to add a little more quality to the food itself.




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 08, 2012, 07:34:20 pm
Trip Advisor is filling up with third rate praise for the place.    :puke2:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 07:39:35 pm
Sounds very expensive prices with very low quality food, we won't be trying it!  :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 08:06:43 pm
Reading the Trip Advisor comments, Harvey's sounds like Fawlty Towers!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 08, 2012, 09:02:26 pm
I would hasten to advise caution when looking at Trip Advisor reviews.. especially emotive ones like that.

I have been actually present (in Llandudno) when the proprietor of a local restuarant went out of his way to accomodate and placate a 'disgruntled customer'
The very next day a very spiteful and unfair review appeared on Trip Advisor...'Fawlty Towers' was mentioned there too!
It was discovered that this disruptive person was actually a local competitor of this restaurant, who was hell bent on ruining the reputation of the local restaurant.

I think that anyone posting on threads such as this, or the 'recommend a local trader' one should refrain from commenting or simply agreeing with the previous poster... or WORSE, agreeing with an anonymous Trip Advisor review.

I would advocate taking a wider and more balanced sample of opinions, or better still, spend some money and discover it for yourselves.
I always look at a large sample of reviews before booking, say, a hotel.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 08, 2012, 09:12:50 pm
There's a couple of reviews of Harvey's now on Qype, one awarding them five out of five and other one out of five.  Whatever else the place clearly manages to divide opinion.  I hope they manage to sort things out because I'd be surprised if they have anything on the menu that I wouldn't like (assuming it was cooked properly) but I don't feel I can justify the outlay based on what I've heard at the moment.  Hopefully it's just teething problems and they'll get things sorted in due course.

http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno (http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 10:09:29 pm


I would advocate taking a wider and more balanced sample of opinions, or better still, spend some money and discover it for yourselves.


 :o spend money on eating out!! Me?  _))*  We had a quick look in there last Saturday, a quick look at the menu and we could see no obvious vegetarian options that appealed and the prices were far too high for us anyway!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 08, 2012, 10:16:54 pm


I would advocate taking a wider and more balanced sample of opinions, or better still, spend some money and discover it for yourselves.


 :o spend money on eating out!! Me?  _))*  We had a quick look in there last Saturday, a quick look at the menu and we could see no obvious vegetarian options that appealed and the prices were far too high for us anyway!

Thats another good point which I forgot, there were no menu boards outside, or in the window.
So you must have gone inside.
Whilst Dave and I were in, several people appeared outside and looked in, but they didn't enter as they didn't want to look foolish or be embarrassed by asking prices.  It is vital to have a menu, complete with prices, facing outwards.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 08, 2012, 10:22:03 pm
A few places seem to do that for some reason, I'm perfectly happy to go in and check it out, if I don't like the look of it, or the prices I'm out of there!  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 09, 2012, 07:33:37 am
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It is vital to have a menu, complete with prices, facing outwards.

It's actually the law, if the place has table service. If you go to a counter, however, they're not obliged to do so.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2012, 08:14:41 am
Some more Restaurant legalese here:
http://www.nelsonsonline.co.uk/nelsons/index.cfm?event=base:article&node=A76053D76913 (http://www.nelsonsonline.co.uk/nelsons/index.cfm?event=base:article&node=A76053D76913)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on November 18, 2012, 08:45:46 pm
   Harveys New York Bar. Took my 25 year old daughter and my 2months old grandson there. Didnt last long, all of 5 minutes. No baby changing facilities (actually my daughter says there are no disabled toilets either --- but I cannot confirm that.)
  And, remarkably, the 25 year old mother, well used to nightclub noise, didnt like the loud music!!! That did surprise me.   Mike   P.S.Noise didnt bother me,my hearing aid battery had gone flat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 18, 2012, 09:19:15 pm
It does seem the owner has just gone for tourist traffic and no real regard for local turnover,not sure if they have a card facility yet or signs on the toilet,the toilet is just one cubicle for the mens which is not good enougth,not sure what they have done with the upstairs.So overall it seems to be overpriced and lacking in customer care so not sure how long its going to last.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2012, 10:05:36 pm
I'm still trying to work out what is remotely 'New York' about it. I was hoping for a lot more, if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2012, 10:07:53 pm
There's a couple of reviews of Harvey's now on Qype, one awarding them five out of five and other one out of five.  Whatever else the place clearly manages to divide opinion.  I hope they manage to sort things out because I'd be surprised if they have anything on the menu that I wouldn't like (assuming it was cooked properly) but I don't feel I can justify the outlay based on what I've heard at the moment.  Hopefully it's just teething problems and they'll get things sorted in due course.

http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno (http://www.qype.co.uk/place/2560017-Harveys-New-York-Bar-Grill-Llandudno)
Who thinks this review is genuine...? Not me!!!

"Love this place so much i have been twice since it opened!!!! amazing atmosphere and lovely food!! about time Llandudno had somewhere like this that you can go and sit in nice surroundings and enjoy great tasting and nicely presented food. Love the fact that you can see the chefs cooking in the kitchen. Totally disagree with the above comment that states it has been done to a budget?? were you in the same place? yes it is frustrating about only being able to pay by cash but from what i can gather its the card machine company that is at fault and not the owners. Great place, will certainly be returning!!"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 18, 2012, 10:20:56 pm
The latest three reviews on Tripadvisor sound very similar to that, I don't believe them either!  Perhaps they should have kept the 'Disaster' name!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 18, 2012, 10:29:05 pm
the toilet is just one cubicle for the mens which is not good enougth,

I am not going to comment if it is right or wrong by having only the one toilet for men but isn't it just the same with Caffe Nero and they trade over two floors and not just the one?

On the subject of Caffe Nero, can someone please explain why they have now placed tables and chairs outside in front of where customers inside are looking out instead of positioning them around the corner in St Georges Place where the impact would be minimal?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2012, 07:17:51 am
There is a unisex/disabled toilet on the ground floor, as well as the toilet upstairs.

Caffe Nero only have permission to put outside seating outside the Mostyn St frontage, I believe it will be extended outside the St Georges Place frontage by next Summer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2012, 07:20:37 am
Caffeine Nero only have permission to put outside seating outside the Mostyn St frontage, I believe it will be extended outside the St Georges Place frontage by next Summer.

The British weather permitting!    Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 19, 2012, 07:33:41 am
Thank you, DaveR.

Yorkie, there are external awnings outside Caffe Nero on both sides for what they are worth.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2012, 10:40:30 am
'Tis the wind, Bri, that is the main problem.  It's either North East from the Prom or South West up Lloyd Street.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 19, 2012, 07:06:45 pm
Wind and DaveR and Caffe Nero what a picture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Welshmunchkin on November 19, 2012, 07:51:02 pm
I was in Llandudno last week and called in the Inglenook cafe restaurant, which is in Vaughn Street, opposite the railway station. I think it was previously called Cafe Monet. I only wanted a snack so had home made soup with warm bread rolls which was excellent! Had a peak at their menu and it looked   really interesting with breakfast,paninis, sandwiches,etc through to main meals and even a couple of Polish meals which sound interesting.They also do traditional afternoon teas.A Very good selection and I think well worth a look. Friendly people too and I wish them well, can be harder to make business when you're not in the main streets.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on November 19, 2012, 08:24:43 pm
I too went into the Inglenook cafe last week and had one of the Polish dishes on the menu and it was fantastic, one of the tastiest meals i've had for ages and good value too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 20, 2012, 08:27:51 am
I always wondered when this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/restaurateur_profile_revenge_plan/) would happen...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: romanjohn on November 22, 2012, 01:24:05 am
me again  looking through the paper on the web  headline may 11 washington nights to close it looks like it will be the biggest chinese restraunt on the the north coast
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2012, 09:07:58 am
me again  looking through the paper on the web  headline may 11 washington nights to close it looks like it will be the biggest chinese restraunt on the the north coast
Its certainly gone very quiet at the Washington. No sign of any work whatsoever taking place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 02, 2012, 12:12:26 am
Never let it be said that Yorkshiremen are miserly.

Tonight Mrs Fester and I walked past the Mediterranean Restaurant in Upper Mostyn St, and she said to me that the smells that were wafting out of there were heavenly.

So, being the big softy that I am, I gave in... and I let her walk past it again!



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on December 02, 2012, 08:50:57 am
 _))*   _))*    L0L   L0L 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2012, 09:38:38 am
I went into the cafe in Waterstones the other day and was surprised to see that it had been completely changed around and rebranded as Cafe W, not a vestige of the former Cafe Culture remained:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 13, 2012, 08:31:47 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)
News about Cadwalladers.

The Mediterranean appears to have closed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 13, 2012, 09:27:02 am
Cadwaladers were asked on Facebook about the closure of their Llandudno cafe and said: "We hope to re-open in Llandudno sometime in 2013, we will post all developments and news on our Facebook page. Thank you."
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 13, 2012, 03:33:56 pm
DaveR has been spotted heading towards Caffe Nero or Fat Cats beware. :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 13, 2012, 04:03:38 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)
News about Cadwalladers.

The Mediterranean appears to have closed.

Are you sure you mean The Mediterranean?   I just walked past Pars Restaurant, (a couple of doors down, just below Fat Cat) .. and Pars has closed down.  In fact there is a notice which infers that the Landlord has repossessed the property!

I sincerely hope that it is not BOTH of them!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 13, 2012, 04:48:43 pm
This may help to explain the position with Cadwaladers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on December 13, 2012, 07:23:17 pm
     All this talk about High Street businesses closing down, or being closed down ---- comes as no surprise to me. Actually I'm surprised its taken so long. The main reason, the rentals for these properties. Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 13, 2012, 08:34:26 pm
Also the very high business rates!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 13, 2012, 11:24:10 pm
The Mediterranean was open and quite busy tonight.

It's Pars Restaurant that has been closed down, and repossessed by the Landlord.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2012, 08:23:49 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20695943)
News about Cadwalladers.

The Mediterranean appears to have closed.

Are you sure you mean The Mediterranean?   I just walked past Pars Restaurant, (a couple of doors down, just below Fat Cat) .. and Pars has closed down.  In fact there is a notice which infers that the Landlord has repossessed the property!

I sincerely hope that it is not BOTH of them!

'Twas someone outside Coony's who was talking to my OH. Someone must have got the wrong information. Glad you spotted that Fester.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2012, 01:07:52 pm
DaveR has been spotted heading towards Caffe Nero or Fat Cats beware. :laugh:
:P  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 06, 2013, 10:58:01 am
We had a walk around Penmaenmawr yesterday and I was amazed to find an American Diner straight from the Fifties! the place was spotless and stunning to look at  8) It is called 'The Lazy Dollar' and it's part of the Antique shop next door, also very good to look around!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0169.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0165.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0166.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0168.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on January 06, 2013, 09:14:52 pm
The Lazy Dollar in Pen opened almost two years ago.  Not that I've been (to Pen at any time in the last two years).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 06, 2013, 09:41:56 pm
I called in there today, it was pretty good, not to mention apparently the only cafe in Penmaenmawr that was open!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on January 06, 2013, 10:35:04 pm
I went about a year ago and really enjoyed it. Does it still only do vegetarian meals?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 06, 2013, 10:50:52 pm
We plan to revisit and we are veggies, I'll report back! It has a 5 star food hygiene rating in the window and was the most spotless cafe that I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 08, 2013, 08:57:23 am
Just been watching BBC buisness and they where in Devon,in a little town where the small retailers are thriveing,cake shops ,butchers etc etc not many shops empty,i think there are many local people who would love to have there own buisness but there is noway independants can afford the crazy rents,rates,etc so it will take Llandudno a few more empty shops before somebody actualy tries to do something.If these conglomerates where fined for having empty premises then maybe they would try a bit harder to fill the shops.I think the whole of Mostyn st has about 11 empty shops,Victoria center about 7 empty units,Mostyn Champneys has 1 empty unit so i suppose at the moment that ain;t to bad,but i have a feeling things are about to get a little worse.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 09, 2013, 10:23:12 am
Just strolled round with the dog for 1/4 hour and noticed that NO1 Bistro is " Closed till Further notice". Haven't been past for a while. Is this something new? Some of my guests will be sickened as they used to go regularly. :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 09, 2013, 06:46:21 pm
Sadly, Jessops has gone into administration.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2013, 08:05:03 pm
Annie and Howard in No1 Bistro have given up the ghost, at least for the time-being, after battling against poor levels of custom for the last couple of years.
However, they may not be closed permanently. Lets see what the new season brings.

Jessops is another matter.
I have often sat in Caffe Nero, looked across to Jessops and said to Dave R that it was a business on borrowed time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 09, 2013, 09:00:34 pm
Strange as Jessops always seemed busy when we went in and I bought two cameras there last year!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on January 10, 2013, 12:00:06 am
A lot of these high street chains that go into administration not because a lack of sales but because of severely bad management in the HQ. It's a trait of British business that is sadly very common. Senior management are arrogant and too distantly removed from the coal face of the business.
I once worked for a company as part of a team working on an IT project worth £30m which was scrapped in favour of a more paper based system which required 3 more office staff to administrate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on January 10, 2013, 07:11:44 pm
The Parade in Church Walks has closed. It appears Enterprise, who are the owners, tried to put the rent up. The tenants said no, packed up and moved out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on January 10, 2013, 07:36:57 pm
    In reply to dwsi in his thread. I am not too sure of my facts here because I only skimmed through reading it in some paper. Basically though it is correct.
   Some big company in retailing, maybe Comet, had a new managing director around twelve months ago. He had previously been high up in Jessops.
  At the time I read this, around three weeks or so ago, I was tempted to write somewhere to point out that (tounge in cheek) he had plenty going for him in the job. He left one well paid job in a firm struggling with its finances and he moves to take over another firm just as bad if not worse. Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2013, 07:47:59 pm
I think he went to HMV, which is also struggling badly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on January 10, 2013, 07:51:59 pm
   Yes, thats it Dave. But imagine. HMV says "We are struggling for cash. So, lets get that man from Jessops." Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2013, 04:30:34 pm
I noticed that the Haulfre Gardens cafe is being refurbished over the Winter.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2013, 12:18:05 pm
Went to the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay for lunch on Friday. Its always a very welcoming pub, I think, with such friendly staff. We sat in the side bit by a big open fire and watched the snow falling outside. Lunch was an open Steak sandwich, a decent sized portion and very filling for a 'light bite'. Recommended.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 20, 2013, 07:49:32 pm
I can endorse what you say Dave.

Bit of a coincidence though - I was there on Friday (about 12.15 to 1.30pm) with my wife and a friend. We were sitting on the right just through the door near that fire, also watching it snow!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2013, 07:56:51 pm
I can endorse what you say Dave.

Bit of a coincidence though - I was there on Friday (about 12.15 to 1.30pm) with my wife and a friend. We were sitting on the right just through the door near that fire, also watching it snow!
Well, what a concidence! I did notice quite a few people sitting in that area; we arrived at 12.40 according to my camera:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 20, 2013, 08:00:35 pm
Guess whose vehicle that is?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2013, 08:05:14 pm
Guess whose vehicle that is?
Well I never! I've edited the photo to hide your reg plate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 20, 2013, 08:08:55 pm
Thanks Dave. I was sat with my back to people coming in and out so was not aware of anyone I might have known.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 21, 2013, 07:50:18 am
Good to hear from you, Stan.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on January 21, 2013, 01:57:45 pm
Thanks Ian, yes I am still alive and kicking!
I have been a bit pre-occupied in recent times as we have had a major health issue in the family but things are now improving.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 21, 2013, 04:17:58 pm
Glad to hear it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2013, 12:26:57 pm
I'm in Coffee V in Craig Y Don having lunch and I see that they have a weekend offer, whereby you can save 25% on all coffees, sandwiches etc. Being as their prices are already very reasonable, this seems a great offer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2013, 03:14:40 pm
I had Sunday lunch this week at the Signatures Restaurant in Conwy Morfa and it was absolutely delicious, it's a shame that Hollins wasn't there to take her usual photos of the food.    $good$
It may be slightly dearer than some others but the standard of food and service were excellent and we were able to manage the 3 courses, but only just!    :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 29, 2013, 05:57:30 pm
Hugo, have you not signed up yet for three courses for the price of two after 3pm on Sundays?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 29, 2013, 06:08:39 pm
Cadwaladers where stripping all their stuff out last nite.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2013, 06:13:31 pm
Cadwaladers where stripping all their stuff out last nite.
I saw the van parked on the pavement and them carrying out a freezer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2013, 10:18:51 pm
Hugo, have you not signed up yet for three courses for the price of two after 3pm on Sundays?  ;)

I was so hungry Bri that I couldn't wait until 3.00pm.  Absolutely delicious and worth every penny as my clean plate proved.      $good$      $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2013, 07:39:02 pm
I noticed today that the Carlton had scaffolding up in order to carry out some work on the building. What was funny was that workmen had just smashed the glass panels in the canopy to stick the poles through, instead of lifting them out.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 02, 2013, 09:42:25 pm
I have just paid the most that I have ever paid for a pint of bitter. £3.65. Where, Chester? Liverpool? London? In a club or fancy bar?

No.

The Castle View, Deganwy.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 02, 2013, 10:05:09 pm
and they wonder why the pubs are empty  :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 02, 2013, 10:12:06 pm
   Where is the Castle View?  Is it the old Maggie Murphys? or part of the Quay complex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 02, 2013, 11:05:49 pm
It's Maggie Murphy's Mike.       Z** Z** $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 03, 2013, 01:15:41 pm
Not bad price. You will Struggle to buy a decent pint for under £4.25 in London. And under £4.00 in Manchester.
Depending what you drink. Good beer in good surroundings normally costs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 03, 2013, 02:31:21 pm
I am a beer, not lager, drinker, and I have recently been to Bath, Liverpool, Manchester, London and Norwich in the past few months, and whilst trendy bars do charge a premium, in pubs I have never paid £3.65 before for Courage Directors or similar. The most was £3.40 in Norwich for London Pride.

I don't mind paying a little extra for a good pint in nice surroundings, but £3.65, that's taking the.....

In one suburban pub in London, it was £2.95. In the Albion, which is by far the busiest pub in Conwy it is £3.00 or, dependant on the strength, above 4%, £3.10.

Then there's always Witherspoons..............
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 03:59:31 pm
Even Weatherspoons prices have been edging up to nearer that of other pubs.

Special promotions aside, there is maybe a 10% advantage in JDW compared to other local pubs these days.

However, I now find that the average price for a pint of lager in a 'regular' bar is around £3.70

So.... we are racing suicidally toward the £4 pint.   With earnings increasing hardly at all, is it any wonder that the social life of our pubs is becoming a thing of the past.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 04:17:57 pm
With earnings increasing hardly at all, is it any wonder that the social life of our pubs is becoming a thing of the past.  &shake&
...yet certain pubs always seem to be busy. How do you account for that?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 03, 2013, 05:01:52 pm
Last night, Saturday, the Albion was full, standing room only, very busy. Checking the other pubs in Conwy there were two or three people in them at best.

The other difference is that the Albion is clean and tidy, the beer is perfectly kept and there is no muszac, juke box or TV.

Hmmm, it'll take Sherlock to work this out...........
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 05:07:37 pm
Not bad price. You will Struggle to buy a decent pint for under £4.25 in London. And under £4.00 in Manchester.
Depending what you drink. Good beer in good surroundings normally costs.
Nice to see you back, Cat. Been busy?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 07:27:37 pm
In the past I have posted many reviews on eateries in three towns area.
We are blessed with many great places to go for a meal in this area, even though some of them struggle to survive and some have closed down in the last couple of years.
The reviews I have written have been overwhelmingly positive.

Mrs Fester and I had heard many people recommend Nikki Ip's in Deganwy, but we had never ventured there ourselves.  Sadly we cannot write a positive review on this occasion.  Nikki Ip's was very disappointing in many respects.

On arrival, despite having a table booked, we were left waiting in the bar area, without any service for what seemed an eternity.
Then we were told a table had just become free, which was strange because when we were shown to it, there were lots of empty ones.  Sadly, we were then seated in a pokey little corner, against a wall, with precious little elbow room.
A funny thing is, when you are 'shown' to your table, you must leave the bar via the door to the chilly street outside, and walk three-doors down to the restaurant 'proper'

I was expecting a large choice of quite different and exotic cuisine, given the reputation, but the appetisers and main course choice is not that extensive.
Certainly nothing you wouldn't find in a standard Chinese restaurant, but  the prices here are much higher. An average £7 for a starter, and approx £13.50 for a main course.
When I go for a meal, I like to be able to fancy quite a few dishes on the menu, and have to rule some out.
In the case of Nikki Ip's we both struggled to find anything that we couldn't resist ordering.  So rather than leave, we settled for something and ordered.

When our food arrived, two teenage waitresses placed it down on the next table and had a good giggle whilst they tried to figure out what it was.  They failed, and it all seemed very amateurish.
At this point, it became clear that you don't get rice or noodles with the basic dish, you have to order them seperately on top.  So, I had to spend extra to get some noodles, otherwise I would have had a plate of just slices of duck in soy sauce!
To be fair, the quality of the food was above average, In fact it was good. But certainly not THAT much above given the disparity in price versus comparable eateries.
Yes, food verdict GOOD... but certainly not special.

The decor in the upstairs restaurant is a mish-mash of different coloured chairs, around those little square aluminium tables.  All in all it is very reminiscent of the kids play area in McDonalds.
Toilets, reasonable, if you don't mind wading past plastic chairs stored haphazardly, and avoiding the kids high chairs propped up adjacent to them.

So, having waited many years to try Nikki Ip's, (supposedly saving the best until last) we were pretty disappointed.

There are many local eateries which deserve our custom more, and at a substantial discount to the prices at Nikki Ip's.

If anyone has a different experience of this restaurant, please make your comments heard here, because it is very important that reviews are balanced.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 07:35:55 pm
Stick to the Seahorse and the Empire, mate, can't go wrong.   ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 03, 2013, 07:46:55 pm
fester like yourself having heard loads of folks say how nikki ipps was the bees knees our son treated us a few weeks ago ,what a let down all what you say happened to us ,1st and last time i go there ,the empire and east for me always good food
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 07:51:05 pm
Reviews on Trip Advisor are mainly favourable:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 03, 2013, 08:13:27 pm
For a good Chinese at a reasonable price try Yeung Sing in Penrhyn Bay at the bottom of Penrhyn Hill.  We have used it many times and Kev, Ric and the Staff look after you well.  It has all the usual Chinese dishes and a few English for those who want it.  The surroundings are not resplendent but the place is always clean and tidy and the food enjoyable.  Our meal for two including beverages is normally around £25 to £30.
I don't know what Trip Advisor says about it.
 :D :D :D
They also have a place in Rhyl.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 08:26:26 pm
Reviews on Trip Advisor are mainly favourable:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1077002-d1572151-Reviews-Nikki_Ips-Deganwy_North_Wales_Wales.html)

This just goes to show how unreliable TripAdvisor ''can'' be.

The Emperor buffet in Llandudno was much better value for money when you and I tried it Dave, despite being very basic in its approach.  I would rather eat there.

Yeung Sing and East are also very good eateries.
We have not yet tried The Jasmine House.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 08:37:44 pm
This just goes to show how unreliable TripAdvisor ''can'' be.
I wouldn't say that, necessarily. I've found it to be pretty accurate.

Did you make your complaints known to the management?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 08:42:12 pm
This just goes to show how unreliable TripAdvisor ''can'' be.
I wouldn't say that, necessarily. I've found it to be pretty accurate.

Did you make your complaints known to the management?

If the food was poor I wouldn't have hesitated to complain, but it was good.
It was the overall eating experience, service and decor that were poor....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2013, 08:55:51 pm
 &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2013, 08:58:13 pm
 &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2013, 08:51:18 am
Have a look at the food hygiene ratings. Just type in "Scores on the doors" and you might get a shock !
(Don't bother looking for us-- We were only done 10 days ago-- and got 5- the maximum !)
I was horrified to see what some of the bigger establishments had been given !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2013, 09:07:15 am
http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/search.php?name=&address=llandudno&x=119&y=20 (http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/search.php?name=&address=llandudno&x=119&y=20)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 04, 2013, 09:52:04 am
It should be compulsory for very establishment to place the green sticker in their front window.

Every one I have seen so far in town has always been showing a 5.  &shake&

P.S. - Well done Nem on your 5.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on February 04, 2013, 11:14:55 am
Have a look at the food hygiene ratings. Just type in "Scores on the doors" and you might get a shock !
(Don't bother looking for us-- We were only done 10 days ago-- and got 5- the maximum !)
I was horrified to see what some of the bigger establishments had been given !
It seems to me that almost without exception, it is the establishments who have attained the highest rating, (5 stars), who actually post them on their doors.  In the past I have looked at the ratings for all of the three towns, but it is only the poor performers that you tend remember, the 3's and 4's less so.   How much better the scheme would be if it were mandatory to display their score, not only would this inform the public, but it would also be a big incentive to the particular business receiving a low to score take steps to improve it.  However, I suppose like all systems, the methods applied to arrive at the ratings, will be rather rigid and some types of business may, try as they might, be unable to improve their score. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2013, 11:28:55 am
I think one must bear in mind that the rating is generally based on just one or two inspections and between the annual visits anything could be happening.  Only a complaint will occasion a non scheduled visit.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 04, 2013, 04:43:54 pm
Yorkie, are you suggesting the inspectors telephone in advance to say they will be making a visit, which is a bit like the way our state schools are inspected?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 04, 2013, 04:58:43 pm
No!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2013, 06:18:44 pm
To display the rating is not at the moment compulsory. From what we were told it soon will be. And no-- there is no warning, just a knock at the door.
Thanks Bri. ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 04, 2013, 06:29:18 pm
What do they do when they come Nemesis?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2013, 07:24:12 pm
With this new system it's possible to have the cleanest Kitchen in the world with the best hygiene practices in place and still get a 1 or 2 rating, because you don't have the necessary paperwork in order. It's now a system devised and run by bureaucrats for bureaucrats and common sense has gone out the window. Luckily for me she who must be obeyed has got all our paperwork in place after many hours of hard work. Understanding and implementing H.A.C.C.P. (Hazard Analyses Critical Control Point) procedures is also now an absolute necessity if you’re in an form of control in the food business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2013, 08:57:04 pm
As a self-confessed food phobic..... I am still reeling from the shock of seeing some of the places I eat very regularly getting only 1 or 2 out of five in the food hygiene inspections.  :puke2:

Some of our most respected (and expensive!!) hotels are getting only 1 or 2 out of five.   Its outrageous.  &shake&

What I want to know is, what are they doing about it?
When I have seen places get inspected in this way on TV recently, they get shut down for 28 days pending a new inspection.

I haven't noticed The Grand or St Georges getting closed down??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2013, 09:19:34 pm
I haven't noticed The Grand...getting closed down??
Who would notice the difference?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 05, 2013, 07:29:39 am
Quote
it's possible to have the cleanest Kitchen in the world with the best hygiene practices in place and still get a 1 or 2 rating, because you don't have the necessary paperwork in order

Sadly, this is totally true. Of course, they would pick up on subtle things, like a week-old carcass of a dead ferret lying across the worktop, but in the main it's all about how well the records are being kept. The big question, then, is whether scrupulously well-kept records will reduce the risk of food poisoning events.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2013, 09:05:53 am
What do they do when they come Nemesis?

Hollins -- As Blongbob says they are more interested in the huge book which has to be filled in daily. (--without being silly you could really write anything in it !.)
They ask where you obtain your food, check the fridge and freezer temps, check that you know what they should be and where different things are stored and ask you what temps. your sausages should be when prodded with a probe.
I think that the general impression as they enter your property counts-- ours sat at the kitchen table and had a coffee. He was pleased that the dog is excluded from the kitchen, I didn't mention Alice the tortoise, as she isn't in there either-- thought that might be asking for enquiry ! ;D
No, no dead ferrets lying around Ian-- not this week anyway ! :twoface:
The inspections were far more rigorous when we served evening meals, but you can understand why with  the meat and such passing through our hands. Now it is only breakfast food there isn't as much chance of cross contamination. He was keen on where our eggs came from though.
Oh and he also asked if we had food hygiene certificates-- which we have.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 05, 2013, 09:34:44 am
He was keen on where our eggs came from though.


Not much intelligence then if he had to ask that!!   I hope you told him!   _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 05, 2013, 09:41:43 am
Thanks for taking the trouble to write that answer Nemesis.  I think you, Blongb and Ian have only confirmed my suspicions that the test is more a bureaucratic one rather than a common sense one.
I had my doubts when you see the flawed system they use for star ratings on hotels where they use the amount of facilities establishments have got to grade them rather than how good they are.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: martin on February 05, 2013, 11:12:19 am
following the posts on the subject of "Scores On The Doors"was looking at the Llandudno page and was really surprised that Caffe Nero had achieved a rather poor 3, additionally the number of retirement homes in the area that had scored a very lowly 2, must be a cause for concern.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 05, 2013, 12:03:48 pm
   When I had a shop on the crossroads in Towyn---in the days before Asda was invented and plenty. of visitors didnt have cars. Mega busy.
   I had a soft icecream machine positioned outside on the forecourt. The health people were on a routine visit and asked to see the nearest toilet to the m/c. So I took them through the shop, up the stairs and into the toilet on the landing.
   They were not particularly happy, mainly because of the distance between icecream m/c and toilet. So, I did mention, a bit tonge in cheek, that actually the nearest toilets were the public ones right opposite, only a matter of yards away. Their answer was "Oh, no, they are definitely not up to the standard you need." Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 05, 2013, 12:59:54 pm
Since being mortified by what the weighing scales told me on New Years Day, I have been eating less, eating healthier.....
Getting down the gym more often too.
Also, thanks to Forum member JACK, I have been out cycling.  Yes, he lent my a bike and I have been terrorising the roads of the Three Towns over the last 2 weeks.  $00$
Anyway, to celebrate getting half a stone off, last night I decided I deserved a treat.

That smoothly brings me back onto topic, as we set off excitedly for Fish and Chips to the excellent Archway fisheries in Bangor Road,Conwy.
The place is utterly spotless, and the menu quite extensive.... the service is very attentive too, as you can choose to eat in the restaurant area.

Haddock, chips, mushy peas....curry sauce of the chinese variety.... tea, bread and butter.  £7.75 the lot.
The quality on offer is really very good. It is no surprise that it was relatively busy at 6pm on a Monday evening.

Just perfect, and you know what?   I don't even feel guilty!  $dins$

Also, as we walked through Conwy, we encountered the delightful Pendragon...(Hi Angie X)
In fact, come to think of it, I have never been to Conwy without bumping in to Pendragon!  $walesflag$

Anyway,  Archway Fish and Chips,  hard to beat..... and I'll be back when I reach another weight-loss milestone.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2013, 05:30:03 pm
I'll second that Fester, lovely food in nice surroundings and pleasant staff what more could you ask for and to top it all I get OAP rates,  D)

If you keep going there you're going to have to peddle faster to keep that tum from returning!     *cycle*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2013, 05:42:14 pm
I had a nice lunch in the Orient Express in Llandudno today and have always had an enjoyable meal there.   My cousin Pat was there and I've seen her there a few times so we've both got good taste.
I was a bit shocked though when she said that her brother Norman08 was an Everton supporter :o  but still nobody's perfect!    &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 05, 2013, 08:56:35 pm
ha ha we are perfect ,i was leaving work today and also chatted to a cousin  doreen she was saying barry has done a family tree very interesting as well .looks like livrpool only won 4 european cups lol
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on February 05, 2013, 10:03:12 pm
now then Norman, they have 5 to their credit and with an old ball for three of them
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2013, 10:58:42 pm
ha ha we are perfect ,i was leaving work today and also chatted to a cousin  doreen she was saying barry has done a family tree very interesting as well .looks like livrpool only won 4 european cups lol

Barry has done a family tree and there's some good news and some bad news.   Nain Hughes' father was Edward Burton and he was a Welsh speaking Englishman and was born in Liverpool.
The good news is that he was an intelligent man  so we know that he must have been a Liverpool FC supporter.     $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2013, 07:05:49 pm
Tweet from Badgers Tearooms @BadgersTearooms

Just heard a nasty rumour that yet another shop in Llandudno is due to be leased to a major coffee brand chain. Yes another cafe!!!! :-(

Is it the long heralded arrival of Starbucks?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on February 08, 2013, 10:46:15 am
Who knows? Where would it go I wonder, U. Mostyn St.? Whatever happens, these places generally do a good job of fitting their coffee shops. I find it rather rich that Badgers would complain, as they hardly covered themselves in glory a couple of years ago when they had that environmental health trouble, maybe they rested on their laurels a bit (if my memory serves me right)? Ultimately, it's all different horses for different courses. Younger people like going for a coffee in places like Starbucks, Costa and Nero because it's good quality and has a nice atmosphere. Some people (generally more mature) like going to take afternoon tea in Badgers, it wouldn't be my thing but there we go..Just like decades ago some people would go to coffee bars rather than places like Sumners.

If you think about it, in the 90s we had very poor provision of cafes and other such places. there was Badgers, the Coffee Centre (which I've never been to and doubt I would to be honest), the Milk Bar, Habit, Upstairs at Clare's, Fortes, Sandbach and that was about it (I know there were more but they're the main ones I recall). They were all pretty old-fashioned (but Forte's was always quite nice in my book) and a couple were very much 'pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap' type places. Today, refreshment provision, range and quality is much better.

It's good to have range and competition in my book and the fact that they all do reasonably well demonstrates that there is a market for different types of places catering to different customers.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 08, 2013, 11:08:46 pm
Went to the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay for lunch on Friday. Its always a very welcoming pub, I think, with such friendly staff. We sat in the side bit by a big open fire and watched the snow falling outside. Lunch was an open Steak sandwich, a decent sized portion and very filling for a 'light bite'. Recommended.

As it's my birthday, we we there today at lunchtime for the first time. It was very good, we don't eat out very often, but we were very impressed with everything!  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 09, 2013, 10:28:52 am
Happy Birthday for yesterday ME,              +}}{-- +}}{--
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2013, 10:53:33 am
Thanks Hugo!  $thanx$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 09, 2013, 11:07:57 am
Many hippy returns, too, ME!  Z** Z** Z** Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2013, 11:09:45 am
Cheers Ian!  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 09, 2013, 04:06:42 pm
Wishing you many more miles to your gallon!   ^*^0
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2013, 05:26:14 pm
Thanks, we went out in the Jag yesterday!  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 11, 2013, 10:25:04 am
Just had 2 guests go home today who, before coming to us spent one night at the Kinmel Arms. They had spent over £80.00 on dinner, fair enough, if that's what you want, but breakfast was delivered the night before, to your room, into a fridge and a table set in your bedroom. Obviously a continental type and ( Note you people with coffee fetishes )a coffee machine. Cornflakes with lump sugar to put on them !!! Ah well !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 14, 2013, 11:56:33 am
I see Mr M Cooney is applying for a license on 129 mostyn street the old Gimberts Shop as if there weren't enough bars in the area. Cant quite understand why as he has a bar further up the street.

Rumours are rife regarding china cave becoming Costa coffee. How much coffee can we drink

And another rumour is that Yates bars are moving into the tudno Castle hotel
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on February 14, 2013, 01:10:03 pm
Has China Cave closed down? I hadn't noticed. It would be better I think if they took over the old Moss Chemists across the road. It's a better location I think, with space to sit outside too, which China Cave doesn't have.

I am not sure what sort of place Gimberts would be if it became a pub. I would prefer somewhere like Speakers Corner was in Colwyn Bay, a bit more arty and interesting with a continental/real ale beer selection rather than a sports bar or an Irish bar selling rubbish, flavourless beer (as good as though those places can be occasionally...). 

I don't know about Yates. It would not be viable for that to happen on its own (what would you do with the upper floors?). Unless they went into partnership with an hotel chain, or apartments- unlikely above a potential pub- then I can't see it happening really.

Anyone else's thoughts?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 14, 2013, 05:53:48 pm
Interesting rumours, Cat. You certainly seem to have your ear to the ground.  $good$

China Cave (or rather Gimberts as it is now) - I believe the rent is around £50k a year on that, whereas the rent on the old Hoosons is only £35k for what is (in my opinion) a bigger and better location. Still, corporates don't always think logically or cost effectively. Costa were originally mooted for the ground floor of the revamped Clarence Hotel, maybe these chaps are coming instead, they have an aggressive expansion policy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16752929 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16752929)

Cooneys - maybe the rent is significantly lower on Gimberts, so he is moving the whole lot a few doors down? Can't think of many other reasons for doing it.

Yates - certainly a possibility, with a Premier Inn on the upper floors. Premier Inn had agreed in principle to take the upper floors last year. Coincidentally, there were surveyors at the Tudno Castle on Monday afternoon taking a good look at the facade.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 14, 2013, 09:38:41 pm
I see Mr M Cooney is applying for a license on 129 mostyn street the old Gimberts Shop as if there weren't enough bars in the area. Cant quite understand why as he has a bar further up the street.

Rumours are rife regarding china cave becoming Costa coffee. How much coffee can we drink

And another rumour is that Yates bars are moving into the tudno Castle hotel

Enough bars in the area? ???

Llandudno has about 15 pubs - hardly a large amount for a town of its size and one that is very busy with tourists in the summer.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 14, 2013, 09:43:38 pm
and you see them any night and they will be empty
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 14, 2013, 11:55:38 pm
and you see them any night and they will be empty

Correct Norm!

Mrs Fester and I went out for a few drinks early on Valentine's night.
At 8.30pm, The London, The Fountains, and Cooneys had a total of ZERO customers.

Even the famous Home Cooking Restaurant had only one table occupied.

Born to Run.... in the face of so many closures, would you open a bar in these impossible times?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2013, 08:40:33 am
Surely Valentines is a night more for restaurants rather than pubs & bars?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2013, 08:48:19 am
After a very pleasant morning at the Quay Hotel Spa yesterday, we decided to go for food at the Olive Grove in Deganwy (opposite the junction with Marine Crescent).

Run by two lovely ladies, who I believe are sisters, they offer a selection of light meals (paninis/sandwiches etc), cakes, together with the usual hot & cold drinks. All the produce used/sold is locally sourced. There's also a Deli which offers takeaway food. Anyway, I had a Stilton & Bacon Panini, which was gorgeous.

The only slight drawback might be that table space is limited, so it will get busy very quickly. But it's very much worth a visit, I strongly recommend it!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 15, 2013, 12:21:23 pm
and you see them any night and they will be empty

Correct Norm!

Mrs Fester and I went out for a few drinks early on Valentine's night.
At 8.30pm, The London, The Fountains, and Cooneys had a total of ZERO customers.

Even the famous Home Cooking Restaurant had only one table occupied.

Born to Run.... in the face of so many closures, would you open a bar in these impossible times?

Bars in Llandudno are in the main over priced, badly serviced and boring - no wonder they have no customers
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 17, 2013, 08:59:41 am
Like Born2run i think the quality of our pubs is crap and overpriced,i think the Albert,Kings Head,Queen Vic,Cottage Loaf,Lillys,Links,Fat Cat,Fountains are ok,only ok ,as for the rest i would never go near only on a pub crawl at a push.We can;t force anybody to spend money on their buisnesses,as we can;t force anybody to invest in a Betty;s style cafe,the town seems to be a grab the money and run place,no real investment in cafe;s or bars.Lots of these places are run by Rhyl folk and we have seen what happened there.Obviously by the time you pay rent,rates,wages i don;t suppose there is much left for decent pubs or cafes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2013, 09:09:27 am
Have to agree with you both!

I think the Carlton would be an ideal site/building for a Bettys style cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2013, 09:17:36 am
Betty's style ---Yes-- Betty's prices-- I'm not sure about. They have always been top whack .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 17, 2013, 10:39:45 am
People que to get in so i think the price does'nt matter if the quality and service,premesis etc are good people will pay as M&S,Waitrose prove.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 17, 2013, 06:01:46 pm
  Hey, Wrex, whats this about Rhyl folk getting in on Llandudnos pubs and cafes. Better put your fists up!!!  (EErrr, how old are you?) Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 20, 2013, 05:26:20 pm
Mr Nicholas White has applied to CCBC for grant of a premises licence for Dr Jones Bar & Grill at 129 Mostyn Street, Llandudno LL30 2PE.

Is that the empty Gimberts shop?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2013, 05:28:33 pm
Mr Nicholas White has applied to CCBC for grant of a premises licence for Dr Jones Bar & Grill at 129 Mostyn Street, Llandudno LL30 2PE.

Is that the empty Gimberts shop?
Yes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 20, 2013, 05:50:22 pm
Thank you, DaveR.

I hope Mr White remembers the apostrophe after the 's'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2013, 06:59:41 pm
Licence Application:

Notice of an application received under the Licensing Act 2003

Nicholas White
Dr Jones's Bar and Grill
129 Mostyn Street
Llandudno
Conwy
LL30 2PE

To Supply Alcohol I Mon to Sat 10.00-00.00 & Sun 10.00- 23.00
Recorded Music Mon-Sat 10.00-00.00 & Sun 10.00-23.00
Late Night Refreshments Mon-Sat 10.00 - 00.00 & Sun 10.00 - 23.00
Opening Hours Mon- Sat 10.00-01.00 & Sun 10.00-00.00
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2013, 07:33:52 pm
What is the score with theBaytree hotel,scaffold up,loads going on inside,slipped through the net this one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2013, 07:57:31 pm
What is the score with theBaytree hotel,scaffold up,loads going on inside,slipped through the net this one.
It was noted by myself & Fester yesterday. I think it's been sold and will be reopening shortly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2013, 08:01:07 pm
Just heard it maybe the Chatsworth
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on February 20, 2013, 08:47:27 pm
Who's Nicholas White then? I thought the word was that Mr. Cooney was taking over Gimberts?

A bar and grill then. Sounds good really as there is obviously a market for it. Similar to Harvey's I imagine, but perhaps hopefully with fewer of the problems you read about them on Tripadvisor. Nice location, with big picture windows, I reckon it could do well, if they get the feel right!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 21, 2013, 10:07:15 pm
According to official source Mr Nick White is a front man for Mr Cooney and the idea is to open it on the pretence of it being a steak bar restaurant but in truth their intention is to run a fully fledged bar bar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 21, 2013, 10:36:45 pm
Great, another empty bar on Upper Mostyn St.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 25, 2013, 04:24:42 pm
Another  $good$ from me for the Archway fish and chip restaurant in Conwy. Thanks for the recommendation Fester and Hugo.
You are right spotlessly clean, a nice smiling waitress and good freshly cooked fish.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on February 25, 2013, 04:41:17 pm
Looks lovely, the first time I went there was because it was the only place open - we had a lovely meal and will be returning.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 26, 2013, 05:12:01 pm
I've got to go back there soon, Hollins photo has reminded me how much I enjoyed it last time.      $good$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on February 28, 2013, 12:12:08 am
Just to let everyone know that the Kiosks on the Promenade at Rhos on Sea have got a reprieve. A letter to the leaseholders this week
withdrawing the notice to close March.  This means they should be able to carry on trading until the sea defence work begins by the Cayley which isnt yet happening. Thanks to Councillor Phil Edwards and public support means the  little Kiosks will remain for now $bounce$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 05, 2013, 02:32:15 pm
I use The Archway at least once a week. Never a bad meal and always good quality food. The only other fish & Chip shop which I find compares to the Archway is in Denbeigh.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 04:23:32 pm
I do like the Galleon chip shop in Conwy, it's great to sit out on the Quay with a bag of chips on a Summer's day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2013, 12:29:37 pm
Anyone interested in running the refreshment kiosk on Deganwy Prom? Yours for £12k and 10 years rent free from CCBC:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=954&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=954&o=1)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2013, 12:31:57 pm
...or you could have the coffee shop at the lower Tram Station for just £8k, and £2.7k a year rent.
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=907&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=907&o=13)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 12, 2013, 11:00:27 pm
We had another look around llanfairfechan this afternoon and found a very pleasent little cafe called the Riverside Pantry, it is rated 5 on hygiene, we had cake, tea and a cappuccino, very good it was too, we will return soon to try lunch. At the moment it is open Mon to Friday, worth a try if you are in the area!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1010937_zps8e27d96c.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on March 19, 2013, 11:39:53 pm
Anyone been in Afon Conwy recently.  I was surprised they had removed the soft play and climbing frames and filled the area with more
tables, when I asked the waiter that served us ,he said they needed more covers. Fare enough! although  in the past we have taken our grandchildren as after their meal they have played in the play area and we have all been able to eat a meal in peace. The food is quick and easy if your hungry, and when they had the playcentre if you had kids with you you overlooked the fact that the menu could be better.
Having said that on Friday we went for the chip shop buffet as was recommended by a friend, it was all ok and fish was really nice. Just noted though the place was nearly empty when we arrived at 7.30. I have never walked in straight to a table before, always had to wait.
I don't know where everyone was as Friday has been a busy night . I did like the fact we were hungry and got food right away but something wasn't right. If they wanted to go more upmarket ok! fine but the food was all the same, not even up to the standards of good pub food.
Does anyone else feel that Afon Conwy haven't done themselves any favours by removing the Playcentre. ?{}?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 20, 2013, 07:31:29 am
. . . . . . .needed more covers. Fare enough! although  in the past we . . . . . .

Now was that a minor spelling error. or a clever pun?   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on March 20, 2013, 10:51:19 am
 Spelling error whoops! I cant take the credit for a pun . I blame the spell check  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 20, 2013, 01:33:10 pm
Department stores can be sorry places to eat these days but I have always been fond of having a good lunch while out shopping. I have good memories of my great aunt taking me to Browns of Chester years ago for a real treat.
Most these days are self service but here are two of my favourites which still cook the food to order with the kitchens visible and best of all waiter/ waitress service.
The first two photos are Aubaine in Selfridges in Manchester.
It has a great view and was originally the M&S coffee shop in the brand new store that they built after the bomb. Later on they sold the back half of the store to Selfridges which it still is.
The third photo is The Kitchen at John Lewis, Cheadle Royal. The food is excellent and on some of the dishes you can choose between a small or larger portion which I like. The service is good and you can see the chefs cooking your meal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 20, 2013, 03:50:37 pm
If you want a memory of times past---- I can remember being taken to Kendal Milnes in Manchester whilst shopping with my Mother. As we ate mannequins paraded between the tables showing dresses which were obtainable in the store.
My treat was their sherry trifle served in a noisy silver dish! OMG I feel like a dinosaur. !! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 20, 2013, 04:37:04 pm
What about this chinese at 43 Mostyn ave DaveR,what do we know.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2013, 05:43:59 pm
What about this chinese at 43 Mostyn ave DaveR,what do we know.
In the old Fortes factory? It has consent for restaurant use but rent is pretty steep, £26k a year. What's happened to the Chinese that was supposed to be going into the Washington?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 20, 2013, 06:58:43 pm
Seems a waste,but nice if we get a nice chinese in c-y-d
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: romanjohn on March 20, 2013, 10:45:06 pm
FU,S Restaurant   Bar    Victoria Docks Caernafon  LL 55  ITH                                                                 this is the new owner of the washington. the name FU  rang some bells i remember the      namein one of the local papers when the wash shut down  Romanjohn
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 21, 2013, 07:20:11 am
Had a meal in the re-furbished Cottage Loaf ,very nice,i think they have gone for the Pen-y-Bryn look.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on March 25, 2013, 03:19:36 pm
                 I had to go to Conwy this morning and I remembered the commendations from Hugo, Fester and Hollins for the Archway Chippy. As it was getting near lunchtime Mrs. Gwynant and I had the (Pensioner's) Special, Cod and chips, mushy peas and tea and bread and butter for £6.75p each and we can both thoroughly recommend it! As Hollins said, the place was spotless, the food excellent and the service and toilet facilities first class. I have passed the place many times in the past without knowing that it was there, but it will be hard to do so in the future!    $thanx$
                 Couple of cracking jokes this morning,Ian.
                                                                                    $good$                                                               
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 25, 2013, 04:49:03 pm
:-))))
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2013, 10:17:50 am
Saw some scaffolders out side thee Washington,i think they where about to put something up,of course it could just be some eccental work like a hole in the roof or something but it would be nice to think it was progress on the eyesore.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 27, 2013, 10:31:24 am
The Wash is starting to look very tatty now. Still think it's far too large for a Chinese Restaurant.

Lots of work going on at the old Fortes ice cream factory in Craig y Don now.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 28, 2013, 12:12:22 am
I used to go to a Chinese Restaurant, as big if not bigger than The Washington building.

It had a stage for entertaining, (usually Karaoke).... and it was very busy for many years.
Never was it possible to get a table on a weekend.

Then.... after about 12 years... it inexplicably closed down.
I suspected Triads!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on March 28, 2013, 11:25:40 am
I used to go to a Chinese Restaurant, as big if not bigger than The Washington building.

It had a stage for entertaining, (usually Karaoke).... and it was very busy for many years.
Never was it possible to get a table on a weekend.

Then.... after about 12 years... it inexplicably closed down.
I suspected Triads!


Or the Border Agency!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2013, 11:50:25 am
I used to go to a Chinese Restaurant, as big if not bigger than The Washington building.

It had a stage for entertaining, (usually Karaoke).... and it was very busy for many years.
Never was it possible to get a table on a weekend.

Then.... after about 12 years... it inexplicably closed down.
I suspected Triads!


Or the Border Agency!

I don't think that the agency can catch a cold let alone an illegal immigrant.  No wonder they were broken up as a unit as they were completely ineffective
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2013, 02:24:33 pm
They found that Chinese bloke living in a chest freezer at the old Clarence Hotel.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2013, 02:30:54 pm
Whilst in Conwy this lunchtime, we found ourselves looking for somewhere to have a bite of lunch. After ruling out the usual options, we decided to try Amelies, which is on the first floor above the former Palace Bingo/Cinema.

It's very pleasantly decorated in a French style and offers a good lunchtime menu, with prices ranging from a fiver to just under £10. I had the steak burger with side salad and a few chips (£8.95) and it was really superb, very tasty indeed.

Do give it a try if you're in Conwy.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2013, 03:18:23 pm
They found that Chinese bloke living in a chest freezer at the old Clarence Hotel.  :laugh:

There are a lot more of them about and they don't all live in China.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 30, 2013, 04:57:47 pm
The Boss and I went out for a run in the car today and finished up in Pentrefoelas at The Chocolate Shop Cafe.  This is just South of the A5 where the B5113 crosses it.   Apart from the excellent cappuccino they have a fantastic assortment of hand made chocolates and the chocolate drink is made from real chocolate and not the powdered rubbish.

Well worth a visit if you're in the area! :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Rosie on March 30, 2013, 06:08:40 pm
Always good to have a recommendation. Thanks Yorkie $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2013, 10:01:28 pm
The new Chinese Restaurant in the old Fortes factory in Craig Y Don is to be called 'Tops Chinese Restaurant' and is being opened by Mr Pui Lee Lau.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 05, 2013, 04:25:45 pm
Scaffolding is going up outside the Wash so that is a good sign.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 07, 2013, 10:53:50 am
Can anyone give an opinion of the food at The Albert recently? Thanks
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2013, 11:34:02 am
how is the influx of chineses in Craig-y-don coming on.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 07, 2013, 02:19:24 pm
Can anyone give an opinion of the food at The Albert recently? Thanks

Haven't been to the Albert recently but can recommend the Cottage Loaf, food is excellent and similarly priced to The Albert.  More 'intimate' too since the makeover!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2013, 04:38:08 pm
Cambridge Restaurant on Mostyn St has finally been sold and has been renamed the 'Cambridge Mostyn' Restaurant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2013, 04:32:26 pm
I see the Carlton are intent on repeating their faux pas of last year:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 14, 2013, 04:52:48 pm
Shouldn't that sign be bilingual?  :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2013, 05:03:26 pm
Does that mean that all 16 ounce steaks are now only 8 ounce?   Or does it refer to the degree of putrefaction?     Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2013, 06:56:00 pm
Colin Flannigan (St. Davids Commercial) says that the Cafe at the Paddling Pool by Craig Y Don is up for sale - £85k.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 21, 2013, 03:15:17 pm
Now that the Albion in Conwy has proved that a decent, clean pub serving good beer (and no food) can be a roaring success, maybe the other licensees in Conwy will realise that there is no shortage of customers, it's just that their pubs are smelly, dirty and they cannot keep a decent pint of beer. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2013, 06:59:41 pm
The ownership of the Cambridge Restaurant appears to have changed hands.

It is now called the Cambridge Mostyn and has had a facelift.

For those not quite sure where it is situated then it is across the road from Barclays Bank.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 21, 2013, 11:38:43 pm
Now that the Albion in Conwy has proved that a decent, clean pub serving good beer (and no food) can be a roaring success, maybe the other licensees in Conwy will realise that there is no shortage of customers, it's just that their pubs are smelly, dirty and they cannot keep a decent pint of beer.

The Albion?  When I went in on to occasions I thought it was crap to be honest.

Brighty lit, boring and soul less.  I prefer the Liverpool Arms on the quayside, a great atmosphere.
However, my Father in law liked The Albion as it had weird and wonderful real-ales which he likes.
To me, it was like being sat in my Grandma's back room in 1972.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 22, 2013, 08:42:41 am
OMG Fester a certain forum member will have your guts for garters !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cordyline on April 22, 2013, 09:44:29 am
Last week we had lunch at The Tea Station Cafe  Deganwy
Directly across from the car park

Excellent food and drinks; reasonable price too
The old pay and display car park is now free; the pay machine is rusted over
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 22, 2013, 09:04:57 pm
Fester, well done, that's answered one question.

I wondered who it was who likes smelly pubs with dirty toilets and sour beer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 12:05:24 pm
Another one bites the dust......Fat Cat Gone into administration
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 01:09:43 pm
http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Company-City-News/Six-Fat-Cat-bars-up-for-sale (http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Company-City-News/Six-Fat-Cat-bars-up-for-sale)

Property News - Colliers International to sell Fat Cat Bar chain

19.04.2013
Fat Cat Café Bars has instructed Colliers International to dispose of six city and town centre bars around the country.

The venues are located in Nottingham, Leicester, Derby, Bow (East London), Bangor and Frodsham in Cheshire and includes one freehold and four free-of-tie leasehold properties.

The Derby-based pub company, led by Matt Saunders, is currently trading ten units within the Fat Cat Café Bars brand, including eight high street bars and two gastropubs.

Ross Kirton, Director of Colliers commented “The Fat Cat brand has been established since the early 1990s and the sale offers the opportunity for either a roll out of the brand or possibly conversion to other mid-market food and drink concepts.”

http://www.colliers.com/en-gb/uk/insights/property-news/2013/0419-fat-cat-cafe-bar-instruction (http://www.colliers.com/en-gb/uk/insights/property-news/2013/0419-fat-cat-cafe-bar-instruction)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 02:10:03 pm
The Llandudno branch of Fat Cat has closed, with immediate effect.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/23/fat-cat-pubs-close-after-going-into-administration-55578-33223016/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/23/fat-cat-pubs-close-after-going-into-administration-55578-33223016/)

One more reason to stay at home.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 02:15:20 pm
No I don't read the morning advertiser all I know is what I read in the window today which was the statutory notice from administrators which stated the normal contact bumf. the property was also taken by means of a possession order.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 02:22:14 pm
I see. Not good news for Upper Mostyn St.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 05:02:35 pm
Jungle drums are busy today:- stronge rumours of coffee shop going into Merrymoon shop on corner of Upper Mostyn street.
Must be insane
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 06:42:03 pm
Jungle drums are busy today:- stronge rumours of coffee shop going into Merrymoon shop on corner of Upper Mostyn street.
Must be insane
Mostyn Estates won't permit that usage, I believe? That's what the estate agent told me.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 06:58:09 pm
No I don't read the morning advertiser all I know is what I read in the window today which was the statutory notice from administrators which stated the normal contact bumf. the property was also taken by means of a possession order.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 07:11:50 pm
Fat Cat Café Bars Limited
Fat Cat Restaurants Limited
Both in Administration


Tyrone Courtman and Nicholas Edwards of business advisory firm, Cooper Parry have been appointed Joint Administrators of the above companies today the 23 April 2013.

The companies, whose head office is in Derby, operates a chain of 11 high quality Bars and gastropubs across the country. These include outlets in Leicester Nottingham Derby and Stoke, as well as the Bow Wharf Pub and Dining Room in London.

The companies currently employ around 200 staff, and whilst a number of the bars are expected to trade on, sadly some redundancies will be inevitable.

Tyrone Courtman, Head of Restructuring at Cooper Parry, said “The companies have been adversely affected by poor trading at a few of their outlets. The Administration affords the companies the opportunity of restructuring its business whilst continuing to trade. We are keen to explore all options and shall continue to trade those operations for the foreseeable future. We believe that those bars continuing are successful performers and we already have significant interest in them continuing as a going concern. I would urge anyone who has any interest in the businesses as a whole or in part to contact me as soon as possible”.

Any party interested in receiving further information should contact the Joint Administrator’s office on (0116) 2629922 or email at tyronec@cooperparry.com
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 23, 2013, 07:37:03 pm
I have read the same quotes today as they intend to keep the company operative with the exception of Chester, Stoke, and Landon.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Merrymoon sight especially in view of your comments regarding Mostyn Estates attitude to another Cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 07:56:06 pm
I have read the same quotes today as they intend to keep the company operative with the exception of Chester, Stoke, and Landon.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Merrymoon sight especially in view of your comments regarding Mostyn Estates attitude to another Cafe.
Maybe Mostyn are now prepared to relax their restrictions, in view of the lack of interest in the site for retail use?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2013, 12:20:36 am
I was out and about in Llandudno tonight, and the entire staff of the FatCat Bar were out drowning their sorrows in several local bars.
I felt really sorry for them, as Fat Cat's has always had a high calibre team in place, and I am sure they will all go on to be successful in whatever comes next for them.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 09:03:26 am
I was out and about in Llandudno tonight, and the entire staff of the FatCat Bar were out drowning their sorrows in several local bars.
I felt really sorry for them, as Fat Cat's has always had a high calibre team in place, and I am sure they will all go on to be successful in whatever comes next for them.  ZXZ
Yes, they were a good bunch. I hope that the Fat Cat is sold quickly and they can maybe regain their jobs under a new owner.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 24, 2013, 10:46:04 am
Tempted to put an offer in Dave? I assume that the local Fat Cat was making money but the group wasn't? Always seems like such a competitive market in that location!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 10:53:29 am
The Llandudno one was apparently loss making, hence its immediate closure. I was talking to Fester last night, saying that the generic Fat Cat operating style was perhaps not suitable for Llandudno, with its far high proportion of older people. If the concept were tweaked slightly, I imagine it would be a tremendous success.

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6234/6289377123_c9b0d45da5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6289377123/)
Inside the belly of the Fat Cat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6289377123/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 01:13:40 pm
The former Little Deli shop at 133 Mostyn St is currently being fitted out as a fish & chip shop.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 01:19:53 pm
I see that Caffe Nero have finally put in a planning application for change of use, a year after opening!!

Location: 81 - 83A Mostyn Street Llandudno Conwy LL30 2PD
Change of Use of Ground and First Floors to A1 (Shop) / A3 (Food and Drink) Use (Retrospective Application)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 24, 2013, 01:30:19 pm
I wonder if the success of Caffe Nero affected Fat Cat's takings? There still seems to be far too many cafes and bars to all do well for twelve months of the year!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on April 24, 2013, 02:13:00 pm
Good point Merddin.  There are also the less visible food and drink facilities such as at Clares, Waterstones and Debenhams etc.  All these surely chip away at the market.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 03:23:23 pm
Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 05:44:03 pm
Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Whereabouts, Nem?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 05:46:39 pm
True story: I was passing the Parade pub on Church Walks earlier. There was a woman unpacking things out of a car outside. A man came out of the open door of the Pub and shouted at the top of his voice to the woman: "I told you to move the f***king car round the side before unloading it". Everyone on the street looks round. Nice, really makes you want to go there for a pint..... &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 24, 2013, 05:56:13 pm
True story: I was passing the Parade pub on Church Walks earlier. There was a woman unpacking things out of a car outside. A man came out of the open door of the Pub and shouted at the top of his voice to the woman: "I told you to move the f***king car round the side before unloading it". Everyone on the street looks round. Nice, really makes you want to go there for a pint..... &shake&

I know what you mean, if the woman can't even follow a simple instruction like parking the car outside before unloading it, what is she gonna be like pulling pints?  WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 08:14:07 pm
Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Whereabouts, Nem?

It's our old friend again Dave-- the greengrocer/barber/second hand/general store lady.---------Don't ask ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 08:37:00 pm
Whatever next!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on April 24, 2013, 08:41:23 pm
I hope she doesn't upset all the visitors from the Potteries because to me they have always been Staffordshire Oatcakes!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2013, 09:43:01 pm
It is almost like opening a Welsh gift shop............. in Stoke on Trent!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 08:41:51 am
It could perhaps say Staffordshire--- my short term memory is dreadful. If it does-- my apologies.

Can you imagine bread in wholesale quantities in that small space?

As for the comments about the Parade, it must be catching. This happened outside another business further up a few years back during a politician's visit. The owner stood on the wall hurling abuse as the politician walked past. Not the ideal for promoting business.--Or am I old fashioned?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 08:44:10 am
I see the Tal- y Cafn has been sold

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-conwy-3000536 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-conwy-3000536)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on April 25, 2013, 10:53:30 am
If it is Staffordshire oatcakes, you are in for a rare treat.
Served with bacon & cheese they are magnificent, a delicacy to be enjoyed especially Sunday mornings.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on April 25, 2013, 11:44:31 pm
Oh yes lovely with bacon and eggs and as a sweet with honey. My childhood was in Stockport there was a market hall called the hen market where my father use to get those staffordshire oat cakes ( like an oat pancake) with the most wonderful cheeses cut from huge
whole cheeses, lancashire cheese so crumbly and creamy and stilton all of which you could try before you bought. I loved going with him, the fresh produce was second to none.Fresh Fish and wonderful hams i can still remember the tastes,lovely wholesome quality food. Now I'm hungry.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 26, 2013, 08:40:35 am
On a recent visit to the north the sight of the fruit and veg piled up and selling like hot cakes made me realise how the markets are still flourishing.  People were queuing up to buy the produce. I used to try to go most weeks for my fruit and veg. trouble was carrying it home !!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ajllandudno on April 30, 2013, 12:01:23 am
Any update on Gimberts corner? Latest was Mr Cooney (and friends) had the go ahead to turn it in to a pub/bar/club?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 30, 2013, 12:45:31 am
It's not a corner is it?   Gimberts will remain on the corner of Gloddaeth and Mostyn St

The OTHER Gimberts is opposite Poundstretcher on Upper Mostyn Street, and work is currently going on inside.

Whatever it opens as, I shall be giving it a try. (assuming it serves BEER)  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 07:08:30 am
I think perhaps AJ is referring to Hoosons Corner? Nothing is going on there at the moment. A deal to open a cafe last year fell through.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 09:13:32 am
I notice all the furniture etc has been removed from the Snug side of the Fat Cat. That side, of course, is under a separate lease.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 02:07:29 pm
Ombudsman's Report on the Town House/Cllr O'Grady Incident:
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000193/M00003637/AI00041570/Ombudsman.pdf (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000193/M00003637/AI00041570/Ombudsman.pdf)

...which contains the classic quote: "She also referred to him as a short assed little bully".
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 30, 2013, 07:23:39 pm
That's a heightest comment   :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 30, 2013, 07:36:56 pm
How could she stoop so low?  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 30, 2013, 09:15:38 pm
  I take it that you think she had to stoop low to look a short assed bully in the eyes
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 01, 2013, 12:26:45 am
I assume she will now resign, to avoid bringing further ridicule upon herself, and hostility towards her 'profession'  (if such a thing were even possible)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 01, 2013, 07:48:49 am
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That's a heightest comment

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on May 01, 2013, 04:58:17 pm
Now, I've heard a little rumour (but from a big cheese within CAMRA) that Wetherspoons aren't going to go ahead with the Palace Bingo site but are instead looking at purchasing The Killer in Junction.

Make of that what you will...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 01, 2013, 05:09:46 pm
How's the orchestra coming on?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ajllandudno on May 02, 2013, 09:13:45 am
Was down west shore last night with the dogs and bumped in to a couple that had been to the lillys & they heard that the owners had agreed to sell the land to anwyl, could it be another west shore business selling up?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2013, 12:25:27 pm
Was down west shore last night with the dogs and bumped in to a couple that had been to the lillys & they heard that the owners had agreed to sell the land to anwyl, could it be another west shore business selling up?
Hope not, that should be a fantastic business if done properly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2013, 12:27:15 pm
Bit of activity in the Fat Cat yesterday, I'm told, a local businessman viewing the premises.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 02, 2013, 11:35:47 pm
Bit of activity in the Fat Cat yesterday, I'm told, a local businessman viewing the premises.  ;)

...and I have heard that the owner of The Lilly (West Shore) is most interested in opening the former Fat Cat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 07:04:24 am
I can confirm that the Fat Cat has been taken over by the owners of the Lilly at West Shore, the deal has been signed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 03, 2013, 07:28:47 am
I can confirm that the Fat Cat has been taken over by the owners of the Lilly at West Shore, the deal has been signed.

As Fat Cat's had already gone bust I'm pretty sure TUPE won't apply here, which is a shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 08:09:18 am
I can confirm that the Fat Cat has been taken over by the owners of the Lilly at West Shore, the deal has been signed.

As Fat Cat's had already gone bust I'm pretty sure TUPE won't apply here, which is a shame.
It would depend upon whether the business or just the premises was acquired. Being as the Fat Cat brand is being used elsewhere, I'm sure it is just the premises/fixtures that have been bought. As such, TUPE will not apply, unfortunately for the employees. On the plus side, I'm sure they would be first in line for any jobs at the reopened venue, being as they know it inside out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 08:28:32 am
Goodbye Fat Cat, welcome the Lilly Bar & Grill:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 02:26:19 pm
I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 04, 2013, 12:14:51 am
I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.

I believe the new operator isn’t interested in paying £12,000 per annum rent for the second shop   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 04, 2013, 06:59:24 am
You still sound upset DaveR,just remember half a Fat Cats is better than none. D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 08:41:49 am
I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.

I believe the new operator isn’t interested in paying £12,000 per annum rent for the second shop
I was talking to a local businessman the other morning and he said the same about it, just not worth the rent, being as it was empty a lot of the time. The main advantage to it is the extra trading space outside it gives you in the Summer months.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2013, 09:43:50 am
No chance of any oatcakes in Upper Mostyn Street--- shop still not finished. What a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 09:56:44 am
No chance of any oatcakes in Upper Mostyn Street--- shop still not finished. What a missed opportunity.
It's probably getting painted...again.  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2013, 10:25:48 am
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 04, 2013, 10:33:34 am
A standard sized glass of dry white wine, £7.25 last night at the Deganwy Quay Hotel.

Even the barman said it was mad, and the tables had not been wiped or the debris of the last customer removed.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 04, 2013, 12:25:02 pm
I can't believe people pay these mad prices!  Makes petrol seem cheap!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 02:04:11 pm
Crazy prices!! Your service has to be 5 star to merit that sort of price and the Deganwy Quay Hotel isn't.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 04, 2013, 03:29:10 pm
We just had a mug of tea and a bacon sandwich for £1.99 each at Caffi Cais.

Earlier today for £2 each, we enjoyed a cup of tea and a slice of bara brith at St John's Methodist Church House.

Excellent value-for-money and the service was 5 star in both.

Total outlay = £7.98.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 09:16:26 pm
I see that the Fat Cat has been split into two and a railing placed in the middle outside.

I believe the new operator isn’t interested in paying £12,000 per annum rent for the second shop
I was talking to a local businessman the other morning and he said the same about it, just not worth the rent, being as it was empty a lot of the time. The main advantage to it is the extra trading space outside it gives you in the Summer months.
I'm told the main Fat Cat premises were let for £30k a year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on May 04, 2013, 09:25:10 pm
Talk about the Emperors suit of clothes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 05, 2013, 12:19:50 am
Crazy prices!! Your service has to be 5 star to merit that sort of price and the Deganwy Quay Hotel isn't.

I would pay those prices, have paid those prices, and hope to again.... if my income bracket ever reverts to the levels of years gone by. (fat chance)
Because, to be honest, call me a snob, but I don't fancy spending my free time in a church hall or a drug rehab charity shelter.
Fair play to those who do, but its not for me.

Now, isn't it funny how many Forum members bemoan the closure of so called 'quality' eating and drinking establishments, (Fat Cat being mid-range)... yet no one wants to spend more than £1.99?
Everyone likes a bargain every now and then, but by the same token lets have no more moaning when you see shops and eateries boarded up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 05, 2013, 06:23:10 am
Most people want value for money and £7.25 for one glass of wine certainly is not good value! What that has to do with seeing shops, eating places closing though I do not know? If these places can't make a profit then they will not survive, as the Fat Cat has proved!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 08:17:34 am
There's no correlation between the price of something and the quality of something. Perception can be that something is naturally better because it costs more, but that's not always the case.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 05, 2013, 08:34:39 am
Because, to be honest, call me a snob, but I don't fancy spending my free time in a church hall or a drug rehab charity shelter.
Fair play to those who do, but its not for me.

You are a snob, Fester.

Those establishments need public support for different reasons and I would hardly call Caffi Cais a drug rehab charity shelter.

In the past, we have also been into Wetherspoons where it is not unusual to see both you and Mrs Fester taking breakfast.

With two breakfasts in Wetherspoons costing around £7.25 in total, in future, you may wish to consider practising what you preach.


Everyone likes a bargain every now and then, but by the same token lets have no more moaning when you see shops and eateries boarded up.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 11:33:29 am
Most people want value for money and £7.25 for one glass of wine certainly is not good value!

I couldn't agree more.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 11:55:04 am
I for one prefer charity run cafes, not because I'm parsimonious. I simply prefer my money going towards a worthy cause than the already vast coffers of some multinational corporation. 

I also find the staff to be more pleasant in charity cafes, they are motivated by supporting the charity, or because they enjoy the social aspect, rather than it merely being a 'job' ..

The Caffi Cais mentioned above was already on my list of places to visit after reading Bri's report of his recent visit I will be going next week.

BUFF

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 05, 2013, 01:31:07 pm
I have paid less for a (better) glass of wine served by an attentive waiter on St Mark's Square in Venice, and in Greenwich Village in New York, listening to the resident pianist than at the Deganwy Quay Hotel, who, incidentally had an appalling vocalist murdering well know popular songs.

Whilst it's foolish to consider the cost of everything and forget the ambiance and experience, I was horrified by both the price and the experience at the Quay. Incidentally, I am informed by Mrs B that the local establishment with the best selections of wine at reasonable prices is Witherspoons.

As a real ale drinker, Witherspoons does a good job, but with the best will in the world, the ambiance is rather lacking.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on May 05, 2013, 08:13:57 pm
Buff - you should also try Cafe Dewi at St. Davids Hospice - very good value for money, lovelycoffee and cakes and soup and a sandwich for lunch is more than enough for the price.  The volunteers are very friendly and yo meet some vey nice people there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 08:26:34 pm
Buff - you should also try Cafe Dewi at St. Davids Hospice - very good value for money, lovelycoffee and cakes and soup and a sandwich for lunch is more than enough for the price.  The volunteers are very friendly and yo meet some vey nice people there.

Thanks for that WR. I've actually been in touch with St. Davids recently to inquire about volunteering for them, didn't know about the cafe.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 06, 2013, 01:21:10 am
Bri / Buff...

I do have breakfast in JD Wetherspoons from time to time, as it is good value and quality. As I said, everyone likes a bargain every now and again.  However I could get it  cheaper elsewhere in the places you mentioned, So I am not sure what your point is?   

By the same token you won't see me moaning and crying if (for example) Kava closes down. It would be disingenuous of me seeing as I don't buy breakfast there very often.

Buff, you say you prefer to spend in charity places?... and thats fine, but please don't moan when the streets are full of nothing but charity shops.   Oh, hang on.... we are pretty much already there!
Maybe you could lobby a charity shop to open a pub, so that you can swig a bottle of £2.99 wine whilst sat on a nice fold up chair beside a formica table?

I have paid over the odds in Deganwy Quay on several occasions with Mrs F, Dave R etc... but I realise that I am benefitting from a view of a medieval castle, an estuary replete with yachts, and a sunset over beautiful Welsh mountains.
I would much rather invest in that 'memory' than a cheap pint in The Carlton.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 07:49:29 am
Can we just calm down, everyone, please?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 07:59:48 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 06, 2013, 08:41:11 am
Fester,

I do not eat breakfast in Llandudno when I have a kitchen at home but my point is by you eating breakfast in Wetherspoons you must be eating the cheapest breakfast in Llandudno and going against your own advice.

Everyone likes a bargain every now and then, but by the same token lets have no more moaning when you see shops and eateries boarded up.

You will not get a cheaper cooked breakfast in the 'church hall or a drug rehab charity shelter' , as you like to call them, because they do not make them as far as I know.

As for Kava, I like the service and I would certainly recommend it to forum members but, unfortunately, I do not like the style of their coffee cups.

On the other hand, for many reasons, I would recommend Clare’s for a pot of tea and a teacake for £2.20 and also Café Express for a pot of tea and a crumpet for £1.99.

It must be my age but I do not like ordering two coffees, handing over a £5 note and getting no change which is what happens in one or two places in Llandudno these days.

Regards

Brian
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 06, 2013, 08:59:01 am
Is it true that Buff was kicked out of Yorkshire for being tooooooo rude?
I have always liked the Yorkies for their direct approach but I think a small apology should be forthcoming to our Fester.
Come on Buff, think before you "Post", once you've hit the button it's too late to take it back.
Tosh
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 09:49:16 am
It must be my age but I do not like ordering two coffees, handing over a £5 note and getting no change which is what happens in one or two places in Llandudno these days.
That certainly wouldn't happen in Caffe Nero, you'd have to hand over a fiver and a pound coin to get two large Lattes!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 09:56:07 am
Is it true that Buff was kicked out of Yorkshire for being tooooooo rude?
I have always liked the Yorkies for their direct approach but I think a small apology should be forthcoming to our Fester.
Come on Buff, think before you "Post", once you've hit the button it's too late to take it back.
Tosh

I should apologise to Fester??

Maybe you could lobby a charity shop to open a pub, so that you can swig a bottle of £2.99 wine whilst sat on a nice fold up chair beside a formica table?

NO
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 10:00:16 am
I have always liked the Yorkies

PS: As I recall "Yorkies" are a small breed of Terrier?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 06, 2013, 11:33:11 am
I would love to jump in and defend "our" Fester, but on this one I just can't agree with him.
Being happy to pay 8 quid for a glass of wine doesn't make you a snob it just makes you a bit daft  :roll:
And I'm saying this from someone who spent most of last year's weekends in "that" London, where £8 is nearer the norm than the shocker.

However, I don't see how digging up Fester's posts from another forum has any relevance in this matter whatsoever.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 06, 2013, 01:32:42 pm
I am not concerned about how much you pay for a glass of wine or a coffee.
What I am concerned about is the fact that Buff thinks he has the right to abuse people with name calling.
He has only been a member here for a very short time and I think he is overstepping the mark.
I think that he should apologise and refrain from further abusive comments in the future.
I shall say no more on the matter.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2013, 02:32:48 pm


PS: As I recall "Yorkies" are a small breed of Terrier?

Or, on the other hand, could be a rather unpleasant Rottweiler!   ^^^^
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 06, 2013, 04:03:44 pm
I do respectfully disagree with born2run, those posts are relevant; the posts on any other forum by a member of this forum shows how that member is likely to behave on any forum, (as in: misbehave in one pub, and you are likely to be banned from all the pubs in the area) and those posts were disgraceful.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 04:27:05 pm
I do respectfully disagree with born2run, those posts are relevant; the posts on any other forum by a member of this forum shows how that member is likely to behave on any forum, (as in: misbehave in one pub, and you are likely to be banned from all the pubs in the area) and those posts were disgraceful.

What an excellent post  $good$

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 04:30:01 pm


PS: As I recall "Yorkies" are a small breed of Terrier?

Or, on the other hand, could be a rather unpleasant Rottweiler!   ^^^^

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on May 06, 2013, 04:59:23 pm
Well, here is someone with a chip on their shoulder.

I'll drink to Buff(oon) having a short life on TTF.

 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:08:30 pm
Well, here is someone with a chip on their shoulder.

I'll drink to Buff(oon) having a short life on TTF.

 Z**

Is that supposed to evoke fear in my heart??

Afraid not, I emailed one of the sites Admin hours ago requesting deletion of both my account and posts.

I'm merely waiting until they comply with my request, so drink away.

Great username by the way, you sound a real card.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:14:26 pm
Saying less might be wiser, B. i've also deleted a couple of words you used, as this is is a 'family friendly' forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:17:26 pm
B: if you wish, we will delete your membership.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:30:36 pm
Saying less might be wiser, B. i've also deleted a couple of words you used, as this is is a 'family friendly' forum.

But Fester being "in' is allowed to be sarcastic, arrogant, patronizing, argumentative and to endlessly boast about his drinking (read through his post history) unchallenged.

Real "family friendly" Ian.

Double standards it seems.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 06, 2013, 05:33:41 pm
I'm always puzzled why people join a forum and are so controversial immediately? Seems pointless to me?  What members may say on another forum should not matter, all forums are different in what is ok and what is not to be said. Obviously Fester never thought that anyone would go to such lengths to find it and then put it on here, seems totally out of order to me! Buff it's easy to go, you will miss out on much useful knowledge, why not apologise and contribute?  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:37:19 pm
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But Fester being "in' is allowed to be sarcastic, arrogant, patronizing, argumentative and to endlessly boast about his drinking (read through his post history) unchallenged.


Not really, B.  We do wield a very light hand in editing terms, but what few rules we have we try to enforce without fear or favour.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:38:12 pm
B: if you wish, we will delete your membership.

Will my posts be deleted as well Ian (would be appreciated) ?

May be for the best if I departed from past experience this won't end well and it's not why I came to Llandudno or joined this forum.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Sara on May 06, 2013, 05:40:50 pm
Why would someone go to such lengths to find a members posts from another forum? How would they know where to look? Especially someone who has only just joined. I've been a member of this site for years and haven't got a clue what other forums members belong to. Very peculiar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:41:22 pm
I'll delete your posts if you really want, but i'd echo ME's comment.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on May 06, 2013, 05:42:32 pm
It sounds as if Buff could start a fight in an empy room.   $angry$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:44:59 pm
It sounds as if Buff could start a fight in an empy room.   $angry$

Ha Ha Ha .... my sides are splitting


BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 06, 2013, 05:48:24 pm
Oh my, this guy is scary.
He moves into the area and seeks friends and acomodation and then starts to abuse people.
Keep a record on the forum of his abuse, do not delete his posts, they may be useful in the future to show how strange he is and definitely keep a record of his e mail details.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:49:47 pm
Why would someone go to such lengths to find a members posts from another forum? How would they know where to look? Especially someone who has only just joined. I've been a member of this site for years and haven't got a clue what other forums members belong to. Very peculiar.

Dead easy, we had another Fester style KNOB on ESB recently (Eastside Boxing) quick search led to the discovery that he was a member of numerous "dating" sites, once exposed he left the forum in disgrace never to return.

Fester also has over 600 posts on here:

http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/north-wales-catch-reports-advice/246390-llandudno-again.html (http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/north-wales-catch-reports-advice/246390-llandudno-again.html)

Almost 5000 posts on three forums in a little over two years, what a sad b*stard he must be.

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 05:53:04 pm
I know for a fact that Fester has never fished in his life.

It just shows the dangers of assuming a common nickname like that on the Internet is actually the same person.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 05:53:31 pm
Oh my, this guy is scary.
He moves into the area and seeks friends and acomodation and then starts to abuse people.
Keep a record on the forum of his abuse, do not delete his posts, they may be useful in the future to show how strange he is and definitely keep a record of his e mail details.

Well done I've taken a screencap of that (you wouldn't believe how illegal your statements are ... and that is my area of expertise I'm afraid)

Who registers on a forum with their "real" email address?

BUFF

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 05:55:36 pm
From now on, I would like everyone to be civil, no nonsense or insults please. If anyone doesn't like the Forum, then don't post here - it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 06, 2013, 05:56:08 pm
Having looked back I cannot see where Fester has insulted Buff, a bit of banter at the most! On the other hand Buff keeps insulting Fester with no good reason that I can see? Also why all the research? What is it meant to prove?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2013, 05:58:59 pm
B:would you like me to delete your membership?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 06:00:12 pm
I'll delete your posts if you really want, but i'd echo ME's comment.

B: if you wish, we will delete your membership.

BOTH WITH SOME URGENCY PLEASE IAN ....

Thank you

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Buff Orpington on May 06, 2013, 06:01:52 pm
From now on, I would like everyone to be civil, no nonsense or insults please. If anyone doesn't like the Forum, then don't post here - it's as simple as that.

As I've already asked Ian twice, delete my account, delete my posts.

Goodbye

BUFF
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 06:09:10 pm
I have deleted Buff's account. Odd how you get people now and again who join a forum, then go out of their way to argue with people? Seems pointless to me, but there you go....  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 06, 2013, 06:24:36 pm
Thank-you Admin for removing that obnoxious oaf. I came on Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways to read about Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways not to read the drivel and vilification of a member put about by an idiot who has just found the Forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 06, 2013, 06:36:09 pm
I came on Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways to read about Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Exactly. I will go through the thread and remove the irrelevant posts in due course.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2013, 09:49:45 pm
   Phew!!! Just looked into the forum at the end of a fairly long day. As usual,straight down to view the list of most recent posts. SHOCK. The whole lot was taken up with posts a bouts cafes etc. Couldn't believe it. WHAT HAS HAPPENED?
   Dave R barred from Cafe Nero?

   So I start reading, page after page.  well thank you to some of the contributors, not all, but some. You have succeeded in wasting around 15 mins of my time and at my age, time is precious.

          Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2013, 10:02:56 pm
    Just gone back again to read through all the messages.

    Yes, I wasent mistaken

    In amongst the insults being thrown from one side and another there is a very short post from an old forum friend, recently departed.

    No, not from this life, just from the forum.
    I, for one, would like to say welcome back. Even if your return is, by your standards, very subdued
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on May 06, 2013, 11:41:34 pm
well spotted mike it takes a plonker to join us to bring him back were he belongs. Just hope this is not a flying visit you old yorkshire pudding
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 07, 2013, 12:26:38 am
Well, what a tizz some people get themselves into.  All because of a disparity over what constitutes 'fair value' for a glass of wine.  $drink1$

A few points if I may.
Major Mellons, thanks for the kind words, I do recall posting something which inadvertantly offended you, back in the mists of time, (an ill judged joke)...however you have the dignity to see past that and post a most reasoned comment.

Sara, thank you also, I too was baffled by Buff's unhealthy obsession with digging up my posts on other forums.

Merddin, I couldn't help but notice that a certain someone tried to taint you in this matter, but you neatly made your point and stepped away from the absurd discussion.

Tosh, many thanks for your immediate supportive comments. No one needs to apologise to me, because being called a KNOB is one of the milder things that drift my way on a daily basis.  In fact it as tantamount to my annual appraisal!
If Mrs Fester called me that, I would consider it a term of endearment!  :laugh:

Let me see, who else. Ah yes!  Yorkie...
You didn't think I noticed you slip that one liner in... well I did, and I hope it is the sign of an imminent return.

Born To Run,
Not sure what you are on about, in fact I would be worried if we ever did agree on something.
But I am going to kick your butt at darts and quizzes, (although you seem to be 3-2 up at the moment, and you have the advantage Sir!)

Ian / Dave R.... a lot of measured patience shown today by you both, but you were on a hiding to nothing it seems.

Last but not least... Buff Orpington.
I loved that name, it really tickled me, but sadly he embarrassed himself and it seems he no longer exists.
I was looking forward to a few interesting contributions by him, but sadly he went off the rails.
Sorry to inform you that despite loving Motorhead, I abhor Fishing, (and have never appeared in The Addams Family) so you have most likely attacked quite a few 'Festers' across the Internet today, none of which were me.

Furthermore, I would like other Forum members to know that despite pleading to be deleted today, he was actively trying at the same time to set up new 'fictitious memberships', I think that speaks volumes for the mental state of the person we are dealing with.

In closing, I would like to place on record that there was a concerted attempt to damage my business today, at the same time as a certain Mr Orpington was online on this Forum in the wee small hours. (He knows that I know)
A little bit of investigation proved it to be the same individual.
You stepped on my Blue Suede Shoes there pal, and this is a small town..... I look forward to having a friendly chat, very soon. A meeting of minds you might say?

Goodnight all,  and I can't wait to get back to talking about Cafe's and Restaurants real soon!

Fester (The Knob)  :-*







Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2013, 07:14:54 am
 aaa.gif   So what is a good price for a glass of wine?  ;D



Yorkie, welcome back!  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 07:25:04 am
aaa.gif   So what is a good price for a glass of wine?  ;D



Yorkie, welcome back!  D)

This

Johnny Cash - He Turned The Water Into Wine (San Quentin) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQUcCaWN3Ck#)

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 07, 2013, 08:22:48 am

Yorkie, welcome back!  D)

I'm not REALLY back, but just couldn't resist joining in the shenanigans of Buff Orpington.  Whoever he was (is), he certainly got the Forum going for a few hours!   

Talking about alcohol, there is a pub called THE BUFF in Orpington in Kent!

And talking about wine, if anyone has visited some of the wine bars around the City of London they will know that a bottle of wine can set you back the equivalent of your monthly mortgage payment.  In fact they probably don't have any glass, of even the cheapest plonk, under a fiver.

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2013, 04:06:35 pm
The hen was the clue-- a Buff Orpington is a type of hen !!!!

Hi Yorkie !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on May 07, 2013, 05:50:51 pm
Well done everybody.
 &well&
Good on yer Fester.
I see you couldn't leave us completely Yorkie.
Keep popping in occasionally, we'll be waiting.
Tosh                             
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 07, 2013, 07:31:25 pm

Yorkie, welcome back!  D)

I'm not REALLY back, but just couldn't resist joining in the shenanigans of Buff Orpington.  Whoever he was (is), he certainly got the Forum going for a few hours!   

Talking about alcohol, there is a pub called THE BUFF in Orpington in Kent!

And talking about wine, if anyone has visited some of the wine bars around the City of London they will know that a bottle of wine can set you back the equivalent of your monthly mortgage payment.  In fact they probably don't have any glass, of even the cheapest plonk, under a fiver.

 ZXZ

I remember the first time I went to a bar in Twickenham with my girlfriend. A homely sort of pub, looked a bit like the Cottage Loaf (old version I'm still to witness the new design) I ordered us a couple of double vodka and lemonades and had my tenner out ready, only to nearly hit the floor when she came out with "That'll be £18 please!" Those sort of prices sober you up rather quickly I find  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2013, 09:27:14 am
I see a menu has appeared in the window of the new Dr. Jones Bar & Grill in the old Gimberts shop in Upper Mostyn St. Looks like an ok menu, not a million miles away from Fat Cat, but the proof will be in the eating, of course.  ;D

No sign of the Oatcake shop opening yet, next to the Con Club?  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 08, 2013, 10:05:13 am
I guess the oatcake shop missed the boat so to speak-- what a lost opportunity :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 09, 2013, 10:19:26 pm
Lots of of rumours that the Lilly at West Shore is to close and the site sold for flats. Hope it's not true.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 09, 2013, 10:27:53 pm
Haven't they recently spent on extending and renovating the top floors?  Bit of a waste of dosh if its going to be knocked down!  Personally haven't been there since Dave Kavanagh left so don't know what we've missed!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on May 09, 2013, 10:45:52 pm
Welcome back Yorkie!  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on May 10, 2013, 12:48:14 am
well said Linda it,s nice to see the man back were he belongs, amongst friends.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 09:51:40 am
Yorkie you have missed a treat,its very nice,as for itg knocked down,like the Penmorfa,if Anwyl come along and offer you a substantial amount  i suppose you bite their hand off,its up to CCBC NOT TO GRANT planning.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on May 10, 2013, 10:06:11 am
If it's true, I am not sure if Conwy could really deny planning permission as I don't believe that area's in a protected hospitality area. If the planning committee were to stand against it, then they might lose on appeal again.

I get the impression from tripadvisor etc that The Lilly was praised for its lovely food, but people weren't too happy with the rooms and accommodation, so maybe they reckon it's best for them to play to their strengths and have a food and beverage offering only.

I haven't been in there for years and it's a fantastic spot, but I remember it being quite up hill, down dale inside. Like many of those hotels, converted from separate smaller villas, they are often not the best suited to modern hotel needs in terms of layout. Perhaps that's why we seen so many of them go over recent years, such as the Branksome, Sunnyside and the one just up from the Lilly towards the Gogarth Abbey (was it The Ravenhurst? that name rings a bell).

I do wonder why Anwyl would redevelop that though, when they've done nothing with the Gogarth Abbey, which is an even better spot, with potentially more lucrative returns on properties. Odd...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 12:31:44 pm
Ijust read somewhere that Cambridge Mostyn did 350 covers on Saturday,now that ain;t bad,as we know they are not all down to the extravaganza,we will never know excactly how many where and if they did the same on the Sunday and Monday that is over a 1,000 covers for the event,im glad the cafes did well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2013, 12:35:33 pm
I was surprised to notice the Bengal Dynasty was closed on Monday.

On Sunday, they put out their A Board offering their usual Sunday Buffet until 8pm but later brought it in early and cancelled the buffet from 5pm onwards.

I suppose they may have their reasons.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2013, 12:36:12 pm
If the rumour is true then I wonder if the Lilly will eventually move into our category of Local Eyesores.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on May 10, 2013, 12:57:42 pm
I'm very sorry I realise that I didn't mean to write 'Sunnyside Hotel' earlier, that's completely wrong. I've just realised that's the hotel opposite Fountains.  I meant the hotel further down West Parade that's recently been replaced by new housing. I think it was called 'Sunny' something. Apologies for any confusion.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 01:26:03 pm
Sunnymeade,run by a very christian lady.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 04:26:12 pm
The Gresham, in Upper Mostyn St, has recently re-branded itself as a Mediterranean Tapas bar, and is currently having the outside seating area remodelled.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on May 13, 2013, 08:53:43 pm
Not sure the New Mediteranean Restaurant just a few doors up will be thrilled by the Gresham's new name!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 09:48:19 pm
Not sure the New Mediteranean Restaurant just a few doors up will be thrilled by the Gresham's new name!
Hmmm...good point!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 09:49:10 pm
Went past the Town House just now - closed and in darkness? Do they not open on Mondays now?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 13, 2013, 10:38:25 pm
   Went past just now? Half nine or thereabouts. Really, David, next thing you are going to be out and about at night club times
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2013, 08:49:41 am
Work is progressing well on the former Fat Cat to transform it into the Lilly Bar & Grill. Shouldn't be too long until it's open.

https://www.facebook.com/thelillybarandgrill (https://www.facebook.com/thelillybarandgrill)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2013, 04:09:19 pm
It would seem that the new leaseholders of the former Merrymoon shop are trying for a cafe after all. Odd, a friend of mine who enquired was told that Mostyn Estates would not permit it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 15, 2013, 07:48:25 pm
We stayed in Manchester last night but this morning we couldn't stand the thought of the luke warm, expensive buffet breakfast in the hotel so we braved the rain and walked down Deansgate to Katsouris for breakfast.
I had walked past this attractive building many times but had never been in before.
We both had a delicious freshly cooked breakfast, mine the small one which cost £3.50 and the larger one £5.50. Mugs of fresh hot coffee were £1.40 each.
Excellent value, we thought!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 16, 2013, 12:02:40 am
I am reliably informed that The Lilly Bar and Grill, (Formerly Fat Cat) is opening on Friday!

Dave R, it would be only fitting if you and I were to patronise this establishment on its opening day, don't you think?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 16, 2013, 04:15:31 am
It would seem that the new leaseholders of the former Merrymoon shop are trying for a cafe after all. Odd, a friend of mine who enquired was told that Mostyn Estates would not permit it.

I think I also know the gentleman, DaveR.

Hasn't he had a business before in Llandudno and has already run a successful cafe in Conwy for a number of years?

In which case, he will definitely make a success with that site.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 08:15:11 am
It would seem that the new leaseholders of the former Merrymoon shop are trying for a cafe after all. Odd, a friend of mine who enquired was told that Mostyn Estates would not permit it.

I think I also know the gentleman, DaveR.

Hasn't he had a business before in Llandudno and has already run a successful cafe in Conwy for a number of years?

In which case, he will definitely make a success with that site.
That's good news, I look forward to visiting!  $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 08:31:33 am
I am reliably informed that The Lilly Bar and Grill, (Formerly Fat Cat) is opening on Friday!

Dave R, it would be only fitting if you and I were to patronise this establishment on its opening day, don't you think?
...only if a VIP area is provided.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 10:31:22 am
The company that runs Broadway Boulevard Nightclub has gone into Administration. The club will remain open in the hope of finding a buyer.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4096e080-bcae-11e2-9519-00144feab7de.html (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4096e080-bcae-11e2-9519-00144feab7de.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 18, 2013, 01:44:51 pm
Local youngsters seem to think Broadway Boulavard has been bought already,anyone heard. >>>
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2013, 05:10:39 pm
The present lease makes it almost impossible to run BB profitably; to make it pay you need to own the Freehold and run it yourself. Having said that, the building itself is deteriorating rapidly and big bills for repairs are not far away. One to avoid, I suspect.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2013, 05:12:28 pm
We stayed in Manchester last night
Any hotel recommendations for Manchester, H?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 18, 2013, 05:18:33 pm
I like the Radisson Blu best. The one in the old Free Trade Hall building.
Good location, friendly staff and well designed rooms.
Have the breakfast up the road though!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 18, 2013, 08:16:21 pm
We stayed in Manchester last night
Any hotel recommendations for Manchester, H?

Cheap and Cheerful is The Britannia,  (a sister hotel of Llandudno's Grand Hotel)

I know that you like buildings with architectural splendour, and faded glory, The Britannia certainly ticks those boxes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2013, 07:58:27 pm
Thanks to both Hollins and Fester for their suggestions.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2013, 08:02:47 pm
I visited the new Lilly Bar & Grill (formerly Fat Cat) with my partner on Friday evening. Fester was already there, in fact, he was the first person through the door when it opened. The decor is much the same as the Fat Cat, the menu is a slimmed down version of the old FC menu with a few more steaks and chicken dishes. I found the food to be fine, and will certainly be visiting again. Whoever idea it was to play Guns N Roses' Greatest Hits through the sound system needs a slap, however.  >>>
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on May 20, 2013, 01:25:17 pm
Costa coffee to open in Colwyn Bay in mid-June (Bay View Centre): http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2013, 01:58:23 pm
Costa coffee to open in Colwyn Bay in mid-June (Bay View Centre): http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/122851/costa-coffee-confirms-store-to-open-in-colwyn-bay.aspx)
I doubt the cafe that's already in the middle of the Bay View Centre is going to approve!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 20, 2013, 06:38:32 pm
Bet Costa won't sell doorsteps of toast like they do !. Never had ant, but it always looks good !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on May 24, 2013, 10:56:20 am
Went to the new Lilly bar Wednesday lunch time and had a really excellent burger. Quite an interesting selection of Czech beers but no Stella or real ales on draft.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2013, 02:56:48 pm
The Lilly are going to have a better selection of bottled beers in a week or so, they told me.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on May 25, 2013, 07:02:19 pm
Will they offer beers from local breweries?  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2013, 09:58:53 am
The Bengal Dynasty Restaurant on North Parade was raided by Home Office Immigration Enforcement officers on Thursday and a 25-year-old Bangladeshi man, was found working in breach of his visa conditions. He was arrested and will be deported.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 31, 2013, 08:00:16 am
Mick seems to be taking a long time opening Dr Jones;es bar and grill,hope its worth the wait.I see the Parade has gone already.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2013, 08:48:04 am
Mick seems to be taking a long time opening Dr Jones;es bar and grill,hope its worth the wait.
Progress seems to be a little slow, but they're getting there.

I see the Parade has gone already.
Really? I think it may be better off as a pure restaurant, rather than a pub as well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2013, 09:04:55 am
Bodnant's brand new Welsh Food Restaurant (http://www.bodnant-welshfood.co.uk/) managed only a 2 in its first hygiene inspection.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2013, 09:39:22 am
Bodnant's brand new Welsh Food Restaurant (http://www.bodnant-welshfood.co.uk/) managed only a 2 in its first hygiene inspection.
I was there last Sunday. Went to the Tearoom rather than the Restaurant, as it was fully booked. Tearoom seemed very disorganised - why no table service when there is more than enough staff to facilitate it? Expecting all the customers to congregate in a small corner to queue for their food/drink like in a school canteen is ridiculous. Coffee was excellent, though.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on June 03, 2013, 01:47:11 pm
The Amber Coffee Shop in Colwyn Bay is up for auction on 20th June.  I suspect the new Costa in town might have an effect on the bidding.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2013, 03:50:19 pm
The Amber Coffee Shop in Colwyn Bay is up for auction on 20th June.  I suspect the new Costa in town might have an effect on the bidding.
I think the GP is £145-165k and that's for the whole building. It's nicely fitted out and in a good location, so not expensive. No reason why it shouldn't do well with the correct management.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 03, 2013, 06:39:10 pm
looks as though we might be able to have those oatcakes soon !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2013, 07:58:22 am
Ambrosia cafe in Rhos has closed down. It had been up for sale for a while.
Title: The New Medeterain
Post by: dingo20 on June 08, 2013, 11:45:52 am
Went to the Medeterain  last week haven't been for a while very disappointed with the food we had kebabs and a Greek salad (very little feta cheese and a lot of lettuce not very Greek) and a bowl of very pale frozen chips. What shame it could be really good to have a restaurant that did Greek / Med food. We have tried the tapas at the Gresham which was very good better than some Spanish restaurant I've been to.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on June 08, 2013, 02:48:41 pm
Dr Jones's Funeral directors is looking close to completion. 
Title: Re: The New Medeterain
Post by: DaveR on June 09, 2013, 12:30:13 pm
Went to the Medeterain  last week haven't been for a while very disappointed with the food we had kebabs and a Greek salad (very little feta cheese and a lot of lettuce not very Greek) and a bowl of very pale frozen chips. What shame it could be really good to have a restaurant that did Greek / Med food. We have tried the tapas at the Gresham which was very good better than some Spanish restaurant I've been to.
We went to the Mediterranean on Friday evening. Service was good, but have to agree about the food. Won't be rushing back, sadly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 09, 2013, 03:17:59 pm
Friends told us last night about the Corner Café in Rhos on Sea and  said they were really pleased with everything there. They also mentioned the Deli across the road where the HSBC was so we'll have a look at them both this week.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2013, 09:34:10 am
The Corner Cafe is very good. I can also recommend the Harbour Cafe at the foot of Rhos Road. Full Welsh Breakfast with toast and tea/coffee there for £5.95 and very good it was too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on June 10, 2013, 03:11:43 pm
The Corner Cafe (Rhos on Sea) also gets my vote. Excellent food & coffee.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on June 14, 2013, 05:09:40 pm
Well, the Costa Coffee has now opened in Colwyn Bay - was busy today, with a lot of teens there after school. A big improvement on having another empty space.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on June 14, 2013, 07:36:10 pm
Costa in Colwyn Bay was full of schoolkids at 8:30 this morning, no doubt fueling themselves on caffeine to get through double maths.  It was also full of schoolkids at lunchtime as well.  The cafe next door was as busy as ever so it looks like Costa will be relying on parting teens from their pocket money if they want to turn a profit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2013, 07:48:55 pm
It will be nice to have a coffee shop thats open on Sunday, Colwyn Bay is like a ghost town on that day normally.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 15, 2013, 11:49:31 am
Parrs in Upper Mostyn st looks like it is to be a Hungarian restaurant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 15, 2013, 04:23:20 pm
I've just had a meal of Ham. eggs and chips with a Cappuccino at the Corner Café in Rhos and really enjoyed it.   The meal was delicious, well presented and the staff were very good too.
Next time I go,  I'll arrive before midday and have that tempting breakfast.      $good$        $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2013, 04:51:28 pm
Parrs in Upper Mostyn st looks like it is to be a Hungarian restaurant.
That has success written all over it then.  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 15, 2013, 05:09:54 pm
Something to do with the geezer who runs the Lindens i thinks
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 16, 2013, 12:09:57 pm
Did anyone go up Upper Mostyn st last nite,just wondered how busy it was with the dimise of Broadway.Dr Jones bar & grill failed to open ,i think they had planned to open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on June 16, 2013, 01:47:39 pm
Upper Mostyn Street was comparatively quiet last night.
I would have thought a percentage of the shortage in footfall could be attributed the the recent closure of the Boulevard and further footfall was probably lost as a result of the inclement weather.

Noticably there was an increased police presence on the Friday evening. But then they dont have to police the boulevard now.
Do we assume that as the dust settles from the Boulevard closure the winners will be the those who control the local policing budgets.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 16, 2013, 07:51:58 pm
I am going out now..!!

I intend to make Upper Mostyn Street just that little bit busier....  Z** Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2013, 06:01:35 pm
whats the latest with Dr Jones and the hungarian
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2013, 07:33:09 pm
Neither are open tonight.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2013, 02:05:54 am
I met Dave R for a beer at teatime on Tuesday, but as usual it got completely out of hand, and I find myself posting on here at daft-o'clock in the morning,
Tonight we have invested lots of our 'hard-earned' in such salubrious establishments as The Gresh, Fountains and even The Cross Keys on Madoc St.  Z** ZXZ

I find myself asking one very important question. 
'Why has Jeremy Kyle not taped?'   I'm sure I pressed REC before I left this morning.
How can I go to bed without my fix?  I need to see lots of badly dressed unfortunate social misfits being castigated and harangued on national television before I retire for the evening.

Dave, this entire sorry episode is your fault, and I only have yourself to blame.  ZXZ ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 19, 2013, 07:19:10 am
Not a programme that I've ever liked, but you could have tried  iplayer?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2013, 09:59:25 am
Not a programme that I've ever liked, but you could have tried  iplayer?

ME, I think the subtle sarcasm passed you by on this one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 19, 2013, 10:20:57 am
Far too subtle!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on June 19, 2013, 08:16:03 pm
Has anyone else tried Flames Indian Takeaway in Oxford Road? They have a very comprehensive menu choice which is authentic, freshly cooked to order, portion sizes are generous and a free home delivery service which takes about half an hour to arrive.   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: TheMedz on June 19, 2013, 09:42:07 pm
They get a big thumbs up from me. Really good take away food at reasonable prices.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on June 21, 2013, 11:53:30 am
I was told that Parrs was going to be a noddle bar and the Lindens on church walks is opening a Hungarian eatery not sure what Hungarian food is like?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 21, 2013, 04:04:21 pm
I was told that Parrs was going to be a noddle bar and the Lindens on church walks is opening a Hungarian eatery not sure what Hungarian food is like?

Goulash?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 21, 2013, 04:55:42 pm
Sorry Dingo i got it wrong,hope you are right about the noodle bar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 21, 2013, 06:11:45 pm
I was told that Parrs was going to be a noddle bar and the Lindens on church walks is opening a Hungarian eatery not sure what Hungarian food is like?

Goulash?

Many years ago, I had Goulash in a café near the Golden Roof in Innsbruck and must admit that I did enjoy it.     Two years later though I read in the paper that the owners had been prosecuted for using Poodle in their Goulash.      :puke2:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 21, 2013, 06:42:56 pm
Goulash is a Polish dish, or so I'm told...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2013, 06:58:55 pm
Does it contain Pledge and Mr Sheen?  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 21, 2013, 08:04:32 pm
For Poolash, perhaps?  WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2013, 11:00:16 pm
For Poolash, perhaps?  WWW WWW WWW

I dread to think what's in that!  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2013, 11:23:05 pm
I have always associated Goulash with Hungary, and Wikipedia seems to concur with me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash)

In the meantime, the 'Hungry Hungarian' sign has today disappeared from outside The Lindens.
I am glad about this, as it was amateurish and not in keeping with the Conservation area.
However the new 'hand pained' new sign for The Lindens itself, is not much better.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2013, 06:29:52 am
I remember the Regency Royal hotel having a home made sign above their main entrance,some people have no idea how to run a buisness .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2013, 06:33:17 am
Will a local buisness man please take on Dreams empty unit on Mostyn Champneys and turn it into a local night club please.It would be an ideal location.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 22, 2013, 07:39:07 am
How would patrons overcome the time limit on parking?

I wonder would the empty crosville garage in Llandudno Junction be too big?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 22, 2013, 07:45:59 am
Quote
I have always associated Goulash with Hungary, and Wikipedia seems to concur with me.

I'd always believed it was Hungarian.  It was an elderly Polish friend who told me it was - in fact - Polish, but I suspect he'd got his facts wrong.  I can't find any sources which suggest it originated in Poland. From Brittanica: "The origins of goulash have been traced to the 9th century, to stews eaten by Magyar shepherds. Before setting out with their flocks, they prepared a portable stock of food by slowly cooking cut-up meats with onions and other flavourings until the liquids had been absorbed. The stew was then dried in the sun and packed into bags made of sheep's stomachs. At mealtime, water was added to a portion of the meat to reconstitute it into a soup or stew."
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 22, 2013, 09:05:04 am
Sounds like a relation of Haggis !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 22, 2013, 10:13:24 am
Sounds like something on the menu of some fancy restaurant! Thank goodness we are veggies!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2013, 11:11:20 am
Sounds like a relation of Haggis !

Nothing like Haggis!  We have Haggis very regularly.  Used to have it brought down from Scotland by coach drivers but now I've found a very good tinned variety on mail order.  Great with neaps and tatties!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2013, 03:04:22 pm
Llandudno Bri,sorry but we need it in town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2013, 05:07:34 pm
For a quick cuppa today, me and 'er indoors visited the Indulgence Cafe in Clonmel Street?  Tried this place for the first time today whilst waiting for my watch to be fixed at the next door Jewellers.  Me and Mrs had a Capuccino each and shared a toasted tea cake.  The coffee was mediocre, very little froth and certainly not hot, but plenty in the saucer.  The tea cake was over cooked and charred on top, served with two small pats of butter that was barely enough for one half of the tea cake.
But the thing that got me the most was when the "chef" stood behind the small counter scoffing a bowl of what looked like Shreddies and then a mug of some hot (?) drink to wash it down.  The two female staff and another lad were just hanging around and seemed bored to tears.  I wasn't surprised. 

For its position it should be a little gold mine but with service as we saw it, it will never happen!

The time was just after 3.00 pm, the town was busy, but this place had plenty of vacant tables.

Never again!   :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 12:05:14 pm
I always go to Indulgence when in town and have no problem with it or the owner,but unfortunatley Yorkie you had a bad experience,but im sure it was a one off.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 23, 2013, 02:48:09 pm
We agree.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2013, 04:54:31 pm
I've always found it pretty good, to be honest. Maybe you caught them on a bad day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 05:41:57 pm
Rumours going around that Yates are going in the Clarence and Garlands are after Broadway,obviously just rumours but it would be nice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 23, 2013, 06:33:34 pm
I've always found it pretty good, to be honest. Maybe you caught them on a bad day.

Well, if it is normal for one of the staff who handles food, to nosh Shreddies at the counter in front of customers, then I reckon I found it on the right day!   

My standards are a lot higher than that!   WWW  And there are plenty of other places in Town to choose from.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 08:14:42 pm
Very true Yorkie,we will keep going to Indulgence because we like it,people who don;t can go else where,please keep us informed about the next place you try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 07:27:38 am
Very true Yorkie,we will keep going to Indulgence because we like it,people who don;t can go else where,please keep us informed about the next place you try.

Better you go to Trip Advisor, there you can view many other opinions alongside mine, some true, some false, and many accurate reflections of the peoples experience "at the time"!  Actually, most are good, but that does not change what I experienced.   :D

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2013, 09:11:12 am
Being fair, Trip Advisor does have it 'Ranked #7 of 136 restaurants in Llandudno', which is pretty good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 10:46:44 am
Being fair, Trip Advisor does have it 'Ranked #7 of 136 restaurants in Llandudno', which is pretty good.

Quite true.  Repeat - my comments reflect MY experience. 
Next time, if there is a next time, may be different!
 $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 24, 2013, 04:55:18 pm
I'm with Yorkie - what's the point in setting up a topic all about establishments of Llandudno and then getting vexed when somebody dares to criticise the ones you like.

I don't know much about resturants myself - not of that much interest to me but I think if Llandudno had a Nandos it would do really, really well. The other eating establishments I've experienced around here in that proce range or nowhere near that quality.

A dominoes pizza and a Primark would also be do very well in their respective fields
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2013, 04:58:05 pm
No-one's getting vexed, I don't think, merely pointing out that they had a substantially better experience than Yorkies in that particular cafe? It's only fair to the business owner to point that out, I think?

Dominos have been looking for suitable premises in Llandudno but nothing has turned up so far.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 07:55:03 pm
B2r - no problems with me, or with Dave's comments.  We have been exchanging views on cafes etc. even before 3towns came on the scene.  I'm sure we respect each others views, on this or any other subject.    $thanx$ for the support anyway.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2013, 08:06:47 pm
No-one knows a toasted teacake better than Yorkie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2013, 08:11:28 pm
Has Mick announced his grand opening of Dr Jonses bar & grill.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on June 24, 2013, 09:11:06 pm
Very true Yorkie,we will keep going to Indulgence because we like it,people who don;t can go else where,please keep us informed about the next place you try.

Better you go to Trip Advisor, there you can view many other opinions alongside mine, some true, some false, and many accurate reflections of the peoples experience "at the time"!  Actually, most are good, but that does not change what I experienced.   :D

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d2252867-r156639503-Indulgence_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)

After reading your reviews, I was wondering why you don't give the 'nicer' eateries a review, you know, just to balance things up! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 06:36:19 am
.

After reading your reviews, I was wondering why you don't give the 'nicer' eateries a review, you know, just to balance things up! ;D

If you have been following me for the last few years you will have seen that I do strike a reasonable balance in my critique of eating establishments.  Only a few postsc ago I did make reference to two English fine diners (sic), namely Quaglinos and Le Quatre Saison.  One can also have one of the best Indian meals in the UK at Veeraswamies which has been open for more years than I can remember!  Locally, i have praised, and criticised, many cafes and restaurants, and on each occasion I believe my commefnts have been fair and reflected the experience I had at the time.

If there is any particular place you would like me to try, let me know!
 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 25, 2013, 06:48:40 am
Top Table in Lloydd st please Yorkie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 08:24:24 am
Top Table in Lloydd st please Yorkie.

Now - how much of your money would you like me to invest in the exercise?   I will produce a personalised report for you, a couple of days prior to general release.    ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 25, 2013, 10:09:47 am
.

After reading your reviews, I was wondering why you don't give the 'nicer' eateries a review, you know, just to balance things up! ;D

If you have been following me for the last few years you will have seen that I do strike a reasonable balance in my critique of eating establishments.  Only a few postsc ago I did make reference to two English fine diners (sic), namely Quaglinos and Le Quatre Saison.  One can also have one of the best Indian meals in the UK at Veeraswamies which has been open for more years than I can remember!  Locally, i have praised, and criticised, many cafes and restaurants, and on each occasion I believe my commefnts have been fair and reflected the experience I had at the time.

If there is any particular place you would like me to try, let me know!
 Z**
Just to say many years ago I did have one of the best Indian meals a Veeraswamies in London. Just wish they had been a little generous with the heating in there as it was winter. Perhaps they thought the hot food would warm us up enough  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 01:10:28 pm
We've both walked the walk down Swallow Street then!   The first Japanese restaurant opened in the same street just a few doors away, a place I thoroughly enjoyed going to.

Back to Wrex's request.  We visited Top Table just after 10 a.m. today and seated ourselves on the two leather settees on the left as you enter the place.  We were quickly attended to and served with a very nice cappuccino (for 'er indoors) and a latte for me.  Both were hot, plenty of froth and as good as most we have had in town.  We also ordered a couple of crumpets (a portion) to share.  Two napkins, each with a knife were placed at the opposite end of the table, and eventually the two crumpets arrived on a single plate.  Butter drips through crumpets - fact of life - so as it was known we were sharing, another plate would have been welcome.  However, the crumpets were standard ones that one buys anywhere and were very enjoyable.  My wife's would have been more so had they had any honey.  I enjoy mine with just butter.

The Top Table is very welcoming with comfy seating and a varied menu for general snacking or simple meals.  Prices were also very reasonable for a town centre position.

The only down side was the screwed up and obviously used serviettes lying next to us on the window sill and the untidy mess of assorted business cards, brochures and even a leaflet for the 2013 Xmas Fair, alongside.

All in all apleasant and acceptable establishment.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on June 25, 2013, 08:48:04 pm
Being fair, Trip Advisor does have it 'Ranked #7 of 136 restaurants in Llandudno', which is pretty good.

It's ranked #22 of 135 today.  Seems like the this forum has some influence after all (the latest review has a certain familiarity) :roll:.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 09:35:05 pm
Probably mine, as i repeated the above on TA.    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2013, 08:35:22 am
The Clemence Restaurant in Conwy is up for rent, £19.5k a year. Good opportunity for someone, although needs complete refurb.

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/49/189892743_83a6dbad9c_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/189892743/)
Clemence Restaurant, Conwy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/189892743/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 27, 2013, 12:52:38 pm
Lovely day at Rhos on Sea, a little shopping with a dear friend and we decided not to have an indoor lunch but went to the Aristadeli (the old bank building and got salads and takeaway drinks all for 4.40 each. The salads were delicious with everthing pasta cous cous and potato salad as well as usual stuff,  plus choice of meats or tuna given wooden knives and forks and napkins. Great for a healthy picnic! which we had on the front at Rhos. Just wondering though why outside the Coop a security van was at constant alert with his 'Please help I'm under attack, call the police immediately' going off. My pal and i were the only ones to check the driver was ok , everyone else just stood and looked or carried on walking regardless of this warning. Maybe we were a little crazy going to the van if there had been a robbery underway but for heavens sake are we such a nation of ignoring someone who may be in trouble. When we knew all was ok we laughed as whenever over the years she and I have gone out something has cropped up. The stories I could tell ! _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 27, 2013, 02:58:24 pm
The same thing happened to us in mid-Wales whilst we were away. The police came shrieking up-- the driver was laughing his head off!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 27, 2013, 04:27:37 pm
Lovely day at Rhos on Sea, a little shopping with a dear friend and we decided not to have an indoor lunch but went to the Aristadeli (the old bank building and got salads and takeaway drinks all for 4.40 each.

The Mrs and me dropped into the Deli this afternoon and found it attractively set out, a good variety of produce and an interesting menu, which on this occasion we did not sample.

It is just a pity that similar enthusiasm as must have been put into the organising, was not reflected by the sole person "minding the shop"!   When we entered the shop was empty and the girl behind the counter either did not notice us, or we were invisible or she just didn't have any training in customer service.  We did not receive any greeting or any offer of assistance.   To save the silence deafening us I voluteered, "We've just heard about you being here and have popped along to have a look round."

What a wonderful buying signal - that was totally ignored, as was the opportunity to make a sales pitch about what they sold and encourage a possible new customer.

During our look round I chose some chilli peanuts and proffered these at the counter to make my payment.  "60 pence." - I offered a £2 coin - "£1.40 change."  No please, no thank you, no smile, definitely no training, probably no future!

As we were leaving another person entered and went into the back of the shop, I wonder if she was the person whose money went to set up the business?
 :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 27, 2013, 05:15:22 pm
Hey Yorkie, don't forget, you're not supposed anything vaguely negative on here...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 27, 2013, 06:37:36 pm
Hey Yorkie, don't forget, you're not supposed anything vaguely negative on here...  :laugh:

I think that my "negative" message could yield some "positive" action, providing it is read by the right person!   I have always felt that the Retail Industry has suffered from a lack of appropriate training.  I think the best example of how to "sell" in a Retail environment is to visit a few of the frock and fashion shops in Oxford Street, London, and surrounding area.  If you walk into a shop it is understood that you went in for a purpose, and that purpose was to buy something.  So the Staff will do their best, without being rude or overpowering, to part you with some of your money!

I'm sure you understand Fester as, I believe you had connections with the Rag Trade.    ZXZ

Mazel Tov!    Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 27, 2013, 06:45:48 pm
Fester ,did you work in Burton;s.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 27, 2013, 07:04:18 pm
Hey Yorkie, don't forget, you're not supposed anything vaguely negative on here...  :laugh:

 I think the best example of how to "sell" in a Retail environment is to visit a few of the frock and fashion shops in Oxford Street, London, and surrounding area. 

So how many frocks have you got now Yorkie?  :laugh:  :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 27, 2013, 07:28:20 pm

So how many frocks have you got now Yorkie?  :laugh:  :twoface:

Might surprise you to know, Merddin, that I had an 'igh class frock shop in the Midlands just before we moved up 'ere. 
I still have a small wardrobe of schmutter so if you want something for a "special" evening out with the rest of the "girls", just let me know!   _))*

Also got the accessories and suitable "padding" if needed.   L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 27, 2013, 07:49:42 pm
 _))* lovely! Not surprisingly I've never been in a posh frock shop, don't think erindoors has either!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 27, 2013, 10:52:44 pm
Some of you guys on here, seriously worry me lol. Ill know who you all are if i see Guys walking around Rhos in posh frocks with accessories and padding. Did see a few of those when I worked at the Jewellers most charming folk as i recall.
Sorry Yorkie you had a bad experience of the Deli at Rhos, the lady that served us was very friendly and informative over what she sold in jams chutneys etc. So you must have called while she was out, other than that I can only think If you were wearing a POSH frock you may have frightened her  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 27, 2013, 11:19:21 pm
 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 27, 2013, 11:40:16 pm
The same thing happened to us in mid-Wales whilst we were away. The police came shrieking up-- the driver was laughing his head off!

 :) It was the tapping on the van windscreen by my friend and i that made us laugh afterwards and we did a thumbs up to the driver who was obviously trying frantically to turn off the warning siren  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 28, 2013, 12:12:26 am
_))* lovely! Not surprisingly I've never been in a posh frock shop, don't think erindoors has either!  ;D

I'm sure if you ask him nicely, Dave R will lend you one from his collection.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 28, 2013, 12:26:55 am
Hope Daves colours dont clash with the rest of the Posh frock guys  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 28, 2013, 08:42:44 am
Hope Daves colours dont clash with the rest of the Posh frock guys  _))*

Brings to mind one day just after the War (WWII).  It was one of those things that we had to wear "hand me downs" to save money and when we ran out of clothing coupons.  I often had to wear my elder Sister's frocks.  One special day I went to school in a particularly nice frock and the teacher was absolutely livid.  And all because he was wearing the same piece of schmutter!

I just didn't have the high heeled shoes.   :D   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 28, 2013, 08:44:06 am
OMG !!! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2013, 09:32:29 am
_))* lovely! Not surprisingly I've never been in a posh frock shop, don't think erindoors has either!  ;D

I'm sure if you ask him nicely, Dave R will lend you one from his collection.  :laugh:
No point in asking Fester to lend one of his frocks, as they were designed for the larger (around the waist anyway  :laugh: ) man.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 28, 2013, 09:53:35 am
Joking aside-- I used to make costumes for Panto productions and 'posh frocks' never fit men without alot of altering. It was easier to start from scratch than re-shape a ladies dress !
Perhaps Fester's were 'made to measure.? ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 28, 2013, 10:25:24 pm
Hey Nemesis, I prob did not do as much as you, but I made a few dresses for the dancers of the Llandudno dancing academy for one of
Alex Monroes Pantos. At the time i was trying to complete some dance training for teaching so helped out a little. I had some lessons with
Margaret Lacy if anyone remembers her. Fantastic character. Actress and dancer in her young years. Alas I had a very young family as well
and my lovely children had to come first then so i had to take a back step with the teaching.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 28, 2013, 10:30:33 pm
As regards the Posh frock subject maybe this topic needs it own section . Maybe a Christmas do with the Posh frocks on display by the Gentlemen in question  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 28, 2013, 11:46:47 pm
As regards the Posh frock subject maybe this topic needs it own section . Maybe a Christmas do with the Posh frocks on display by the Gentlemen in question  _))*

Yes,.... I think we have collectively flogged that joke to within an inch of its life...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 29, 2013, 12:45:21 am
As regards the Posh frock subject maybe this topic needs it own section . Maybe a Christmas do with the Posh frocks on display by the Gentlemen in question  _))*

Yes,.... I think we have collectively flogged that joke to within an inch of its life...
Hmm! I wonder, it may crop up again one day, what do you say Nemesis  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2013, 10:06:44 am
Hey Nemesis, I prob did not do as much as you, but I made a few dresses for the dancers of the Llandudno dancing academy for one of
Alex Monroes Pantos. At the time i was trying to complete some dance training for teaching so helped out a little. I had some lessons with
Margaret Lacy if anyone remembers her. Fantastic character. Actress and dancer in her young years. Alas I had a very young family as well
and my lovely children had to come first then so i had to take a back step with the teaching.

ohh Linda-- and aren't they drama queens when it is time for fitting?
I remember one teenager who complained that the glittery shorts which I made for her weren't either short enough or tight enough. Little madam--- she couldn't sit down in them and they made her bottom itch when I had finished !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on June 29, 2013, 08:00:26 pm
Linda - I remember Margaret Lacey well- she taught me ballet and ballroom dancing - a lovelly lady :)
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Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2013, 08:18:12 pm
Was Margaret Lacey the lady who appeared in the James Bond film 'Diamonds Are Forever'?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on June 29, 2013, 08:32:25 pm
Yes I think she was - she appeared in a lot of films!!
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Post by: Fester on June 30, 2013, 12:15:58 am
ANYWAY!!!!!  Back to the subject of Cafes, Restaurants and Pubs if you don't mind! 

Tonight, it dawned on me just how badly standards are slipping in some of my previously favourite establishments in Llandudno.
In fact, some of the places I have often reviewed very positively on this Forum no longer deserve my patronage.
Its getting quite worrying.
I will not dwell on the negatives, other than to say that tonight we left one of our 'favourite' eateries in despair, even BEFORE we got served, because absolutely everything was wrong.
The exasperated staff simply did not care enough.

So, once again we threw ourselves (a group of four) on the mercy of The Empire Hotel, who were only too happy to salvage a good night from a terrible one.
For the last 20-odd years, The Empire have never let us down, and they consistently serve excellent quality meals, combined with high class service, at very good prices.  Unbeatable value in fact.
In fact, the ONLY places that I patronise regularly that can now be relied upon are The Seahorse, and The Empire.  :)

Only a few months ago, I could have listed many more, but sadly no longer.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 30, 2013, 12:35:09 am
Linda - I remember Margaret Lacey well- she taught me ballet and ballroom dancing - a Lovelly lady :)

White Rabbit ,Yes she was and very talented. I had got as far as my teachers exams for Ballet and was trying to gain more, but my children were tiny and it meant being away from them so much and travelling, so i gave it up. Still a wonderful experience and met some lovely people. Margaret Lacy was a very interesting Lady and her life had been so full , she had met so many famous folk.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 30, 2013, 12:39:08 am
Was Margaret Lacey the lady who appeared in the James Bond film 'Diamonds Are Forever'?

She was also in that film that was on location in Llandudno and on the Pier, set during the WW2. I will research the Title as i cant remember off hand.
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Post by: Ian on June 30, 2013, 07:40:29 am
Quite a listing for Margaret Lacey here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0479941/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0479941/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 30, 2013, 07:56:17 am
She was also in that film that was on location in Llandudno and on the Pier, set during the WW2. I will research the Title as i cant remember off hand.

Yanks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on June 30, 2013, 09:25:45 am
She was also in that film that was on location in Llandudno and on the Pier, set during the WW2. I will research the Title as i cant remember off hand.

Yanks.
Thanks thats the one :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on June 30, 2013, 12:04:58 pm
The IMdb list, though quite extensive, does not include some of her films.  She was in John Schlesinger's "Terminus" (1961) - in a small scene although her voice seems dubbed as is the case with everyone in this semi-documentary of a day in the life of Waterloo station. She also appeared as an art mistress in one of the 1950s "St Trinians" films. Schlesinger apparently held her in regard and included her in minor parts in most of his films.

Some years ago Angharad Rees and her then husband took Margaret to Holywood to fulfil a lifelong wish.  A documentary was made of this visit which appeared on TV here.  Possibly this coincided with her appearance in Magnum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2013, 12:13:39 pm
A bit about the tv documentary here:
http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b797cb4a2 (http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b797cb4a2)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on June 30, 2013, 02:27:15 pm
That's the one Dave.  Cazenove was married to Angharad Rees at the time.  I also just remembered that Margaret played the old girl with the collecting tin at the start of The Great St Trinian's Train Robbery which was on TV last week. She has some dialogue with another North Walian actor, Meredith Edwards.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 30, 2013, 09:01:43 pm
.... has any of this got to do with Llandudno's Cafe's and Restaurants at all?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 30, 2013, 09:35:35 pm
It all went off course when the subject of posh frocks came up!   ;D
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2013, 09:59:46 pm
Are we back on posh frocks?  :laugh:  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 01, 2013, 12:17:06 am
Maybe we could have a separate area for POSH FROCKS ! As a' LADY' i could talk Posh frocks all night  ;) L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2013, 07:52:43 am
.... has any of this got to do with Llandudno's Cafe's and Restaurants at all?

People wearing posh frocks regularly visit the restaurants  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 01, 2013, 10:19:39 am
Had lunch in Tiffany;s yesterday,i must say the downstairs is looking very nice,i think he is only looking to open it for meals ,it would make a brilliant Jazz venue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 01, 2013, 11:43:35 am
.... has any of this got to do with Llandudno's Cafe's and Restaurants at all?

People wearing posh frocks regularly visit the restaurants  8)
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So true  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 01, 2013, 11:53:58 am
New takeaway eat in opened once again off the A55  Junction 23 Llandulas called Oinkys,  :D didnt think much of the ad in the Colwyn Bay Pioneer , but the breakfasts look substantial. Handy for A55 motorists .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2013, 12:37:49 pm
That's the one that used to be the 55 Diner. Must send Yorkie round to give it a try.  ;)
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Post by: Yorkie on July 01, 2013, 05:18:33 pm
That's the one that used to be the 55 Diner. Must send Yorkie round to give it a try.  ;)

I'm on my way!    ZXZ
Going that direction tomorrow.    $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on July 01, 2013, 07:43:11 pm
Of course the 55 diner used to be a little chef and before that a Happy Eater, so it's had a few owners.  Oinkys, as it is now called, could do with the trees and shrubbery cutting back, and some signage putting up as it cannot be seen from the a55 at all, which would at least give it a fighting chance of survival.  Interestingly the other twin ex little chefs at bodelwyddan are just starting transformation into Starbucks, as with the one near Rhos, Wrexham which succesfully transformed about 12 months ago.  East bound has started being worked on and is due to open in about four weeks, with west bound starting works in a few weeks.  Dave r will now be ok for coffee on his travels!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2013, 10:38:18 pm
I remember the former owner of the 55 Diner waging a long battle to have the shrubbery along the A55 cut down to improve the visibility of his restaurant.

Thanks for the info re Starbucks, Yelboh.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 02, 2013, 12:26:51 am
That's the one that used to be the 55 Diner. Must send Yorkie round to give it a try.  ;)

I'm on my way!    ZXZ
Going that direction tomorrow.    $drink$

Lets us know what it is like Yorkie as it is quite close to us, and will give hubby a treat when he has finished tiling the kitchen in about six months by my rough guess. After yesterday, it was tiling verses Grand Prix.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 02, 2013, 01:52:18 pm
Before I start let me just say that what I have to say is based on my experience and the opinions of 'er indoors and me.

Visited Oinky's today shortly after mid-day to partake of some light refreshment to satisfy our lunch-time craving.

As one enters this vast hanger like building one realises that it is more of a "truck stop" than a cafe for the more discerning person.  It is stark, lacks atmosphere and the dark decoration and furniture does little to enhance the ambience (if there is any) of the place.  When we entered there were 4 people at one of the low tables presumably just having a drink and 3 others sat at the plastic topped tables.   The tables and chairs were a mixture of fixed seating and pseudo leather and chrome chairs.  The plastic tables were a mixture of colours and the whole interior must have been designed by someone who was colour blind and devoid of any flair for co-ordination.

Enough of that, now down to the reason for our visit.

We ordered (at the counter, no table service), 1 cappuccino, 1 latte, 1 bacon and egg bap and mushrooms on toast.

The first things placed on the table were 2 plastic tea spoons,  a few sachets of brown sugar, and a   caramelised biscuit enclosed in its foil wrapper.   Then came is pretty pink perforated vase thing with knives and forks wrapped in cheap paper serviettes, and a Heinz condiment holder containing brown sauce, tomato ketchup, salt and pepper.   As our drinks were served we were advised that as everything was "local" produce and freshly cooked there would be a short delay. (This statement about everything being Local needs confirmation!)

The Cappuccino lacked any element of the standard froth and the Latte was just milk with a shot of coffee all mixed together, whereas I like my shot "floated" on the milk.  However it was hot and satisfied the palate, although at £2.50 and £2.35 respectively were overpriced for what was served.

The "freshly cooked mushrooms in a creamy sauce on 2 slices of thick toast" could land them in deep trouble with Trading Standards.  To my mind the mushrooms were tinned sliced mushrooms, deep-fried and there was no sauce, let alone the creamy variety to be seen.  The toast was medium sliced at the best.  They had not been seasoned so it was a case of pepper and salt yourself.

The "bacon and egg batch", for yours truly, also did not meet up with expectations!  The bap (as I prefer to call it) was devoid of any spread such as margarine or butter.  The bacon was well cooked which suited me fine.   However, the egg was "out of this World", or should have been sent into outer space never to descend on this Earth again!  It was round, having been cooked in an egg ring, and apart from being over cooked with no runny yolk, was discoloured on both sides from being cooked in a dirty pan.

The mushrooms were £1.99 and the bap  just under £3.00, total bill a smidgen under £10.00.

The whole menu seemed to revolve around Burgers, eggs, bacon, beans, chips, black pudding with a couple of other items such as lasagne etc.    I don' think you will ever see any normal vegetables or boiled potatoes in the place.    Their business will have to rely on car trade as there is no room for truckers in the reasonably sized car park, and I believe the quality and value will have to be adjusted to suit a more discerning clientèle.

My summary - just another GREASY SPOON and under average, even after having been open for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 02, 2013, 08:15:05 pm
While Yorkie was slumming it in Llanddulas I was living it up in Llandudno!
 ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 02, 2013, 10:03:20 pm
Before I start let me just say that what I have to say is based on my experience and the opinions of 'er indoors and me.

Visited Oinky's today shortly after mid-day to partake of some light refreshment to satisfy our lunch-time craving.

As one enters this vast hanger like building one realises that it is more of a "truck stop" than a cafe for the more discerning person.  It is stark, lacks atmosphere and the dark decoration and furniture does little to enhance the ambience (if there is any) of the place.  When we entered there were 4 people at one of the low tables presumably just having a drink and 3 others sat at the plastic topped tables.   The tables and chairs were a mixture of fixed seating and pseudo leather and chrome chairs.  The plastic tables were a mixture of colours and the whole interior must have been designed by someone who was colour blind and devoid of any flair for co-ordination.

Enough of that, now down to the reason for our visit.

We ordered (at the counter, no table service), 1 cappuccino, 1 latte, 1 bacon and egg bap and mushrooms on toast.

The first things placed on the table were 2 plastic tea spoons,  a few sachets of brown sugar, and a   caramelised biscuit enclosed in its foil wrapper.   Then came is pretty pink perforated vase thing with knives and forks wrapped in cheap paper serviettes, and a Heinz condiment holder containing brown sauce, tomato ketchup, salt and pepper.   As our drinks were served we were advised that as everything was "local" produce and freshly cooked there would be a short delay. (This statement about everything being Local needs confirmation!)

The Cappuccino lacked any element of the standard froth and the Latte was just milk with a shot of coffee all mixed together, whereas I like my shot "floated" on the milk.  However it was hot and satisfied the palate, although at £2.50 and £2.35 respectively were overpriced for what was served.

The "freshly cooked mushrooms in a creamy sauce on 2 slices of thick toast" could land them in deep trouble with Trading Standards.  To my mind the mushrooms were tinned sliced mushrooms, deep-fried and there was no sauce, let alone the creamy variety to be seen.  The toast was medium sliced at the best.  They had not been seasoned so it was a case of pepper and salt yourself.

The "bacon and egg batch", for yours truly, also did not meet up with expectations!  The bap (as I prefer to call it) was devoid of any spread such as margarine or butter.  The bacon was well cooked which suited me fine.   However, the egg was "out of this World", or should have been sent into outer space never to descend on this Earth again!  It was round, having been cooked in an egg ring, and apart from being over cooked with no runny yolk, was discoloured on both sides from being cooked in a dirty pan.

The mushrooms were £1.99 and the bap  just under £3.00, total bill a smidgen under £10.00.

The whole menu seemed to revolve around Burgers, eggs, bacon, beans, chips, black pudding with a couple of other items such as lasagne etc.    I don' think you will ever see any normal vegetables or boiled potatoes in the place.    Their business will have to rely on car trade as there is no room for truckers in the reasonably sized car park, and I believe the quality and value will have to be adjusted to suit a more discerning clientèle.

My summary - just another GREASY SPOON and under average, even after having been open for a few weeks.
Well that says it all, prob one place we wont visit in a hurry then. It wasnt too bad when it was the 55 diner as I recall but then only ever had a cuppa there. They need to up their game then as there are quite a few good breakfast places.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 02, 2013, 10:05:17 pm
While Yorkie was slumming it in Llanddulas I was living it up in Llandudno!
 ;D
That looks like an Asda special kids meal lol. Taken my grandson in there and had one too  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2013, 07:38:37 am
One thing I forgot to mention was the staff.  There appeared to be 3 men involved in the Kitchen, 2 men behind the counter and 2 ladies serving.   So lack of staff was not an excuse!   :D

A worker was surveying the trees and brushwood between the cafe and the A55 and another was fitting a new lock to one of the doors.   :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2013, 08:10:04 am
Good review, Yorkie! No excuse for not having Table Service, really, if they had that many staff.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2013, 08:10:27 am
Work has started on the former Merrymoon shop to convert it into a cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on July 03, 2013, 10:03:18 am
The whole menu seemed to revolve around Burgers, eggs, bacon, beans, chips, black pudding with a couple of other items such as lasagne etc.    I don' think you will ever see any normal vegetables or boiled potatoes in the place.

There's some pictures of their food on their Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/OinkysDiner. (https://www.facebook.com/OinkysDiner.)  Certainly looks like a place to go for a bit of stodge.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian48 on July 03, 2013, 10:51:57 am
Work has started on the former Merrymoon shop to convert it into a cafe.

Is it going to be a chain or an independent?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2013, 11:03:11 am
Independent, they already operate other cafes in the area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2013, 12:10:18 pm
Independent, they already operate other cafes in the area.

Is there a clue there somewhere?   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2013, 12:15:35 pm

There's some pictures of their food on their Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/OinkysDiner. (https://www.facebook.com/OinkysDiner.)  Certainly looks like a place to go for a bit of stodge.

The pictures of the eggs in the first two pictures, confirms my words!  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 03, 2013, 02:03:37 pm
See what you mean Yorkie--- I loathe fried eggs, even though I cook them most days, those look gross.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 06, 2013, 07:17:40 am
Yesterday we were in a local cafe and a woman entered with a small pooble type dog.  It was not a guide or hearing dog.   What do readers think about dogs being allowed in cafes?  Of course it got fed titbits from the table!   $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2013, 10:57:34 am
Yesterday we were in a local cafe and a woman entered with a small pooble type dog.  It was not a guide or hearing dog.   What do readers think about dogs being allowed in cafes?  Of course it got fed titbits from the table!   $dins$
I don't think dogs, other than guide dogs, are permitted in cafes?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2013, 10:58:26 am
Dr Jones Bar & Grill in Upper Mostyn St is now open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 06, 2013, 11:41:06 am
I don't think dogs, other than guide dogs, are permitted in cafes?

It seems that the hygiene regulations place the onus on the proprietor as whether dogs (or indeed any animals) are allowed on the premises.    I have no objection to Guide or Hearing Dogs providing they are well behaved, as they invariably are, but as much as I like dogs, inside cafes are not the place to take them.   >>>
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2013, 11:51:55 am
That's right.  The polarisation of opinions on the subject is fascinating, Many folk think having dogs in a cafe is abhorrent, while many would be happy sharing their plates with them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 06, 2013, 11:56:35 am
I always have to do a second take in Europe where dogs go everywhere with their owners, shops, restaurants, cafes, hotels.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 06, 2013, 12:00:54 pm
Again alot of this discussion boils down to behaviour. A well behaved dog sitting under a table in a cafe would appeal more to alot of people than a badly behaved child running round screaming !
Sharing a plate-- no that is not on, but as Yorkie says it is up to the cafe or shop owner as to whether he/she permits the entry of dogs.
As a dog owner I can see both sides of this, no one wants a smelly, wet, badly behaved dog in a cafe, but when away from home it can be very awkward, especially in hot weather what to do with your pet when needing food for yourself. Cafe's with outside terraces are ideal !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 07, 2013, 12:04:33 am
In my tiny kiosk, I regularly get customers with guide dogs, they are more than welcome.
Other small, well behaved dogs are equally welcomed if the owner asks me.

What REALLY hacks me off is when people just assume that their horrible hound can just come in uninvited.
Then the thing bounds around excitedly, knocking things over, jumping up at me and trying to lick my hand or face.
''Oh don't worry, our little tiddles is just being playful''

To me, our little tiddles is a disease ridden menace, and I would willingly pay the bill to have it put humanely to sleep.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 07, 2013, 07:43:06 am
Quote
To me, our little tiddles is a disease ridden menace, and I would willingly pay the bill to have it put humanely to sleep.

And what about the owner?

 WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 07, 2013, 08:20:46 am
In my tiny kiosk, I regularly get customers with guide dogs, they are more than welcome.
Other small, well behaved dogs are equally welcomed if the owner asks me.

What REALLY hacks me off is when people just assume that their horrible hound can just come in uninvited.
Then the thing bounds around excitedly, knocking things over, jumping up at me and trying to lick my hand or face.
''Oh don't worry, our little tiddles is just being playful''

To me, our little tiddles is a disease ridden menace, and I would willingly pay the bill to have it put humanely to sleep.

Really Fester---- I hope your missis never gets the dog that she would like. I pity the poor thing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 07, 2013, 08:41:44 am
We went to the Med last nite as i had;nt booked anywhere so i knew we would get in and we did ,just,i must admit we found it the same as ever,food was good,prompt and nice service.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on July 07, 2013, 08:49:47 am
I always have to do a second take in Europe where dogs go everywhere with their owners, shops, restaurants, cafes, hotels.

I was getting a flight back from Paris a few years ago. A smartly dressed woman walked across the departure lounge with a dog on a lead which was strange enough. The dog then had a poop right in the middle of the concourse which the owner just left there walking away without a care. Amazing and disgusting in equal measure.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 07, 2013, 08:55:48 am
The dog then had a poop right in the middle of the concourse which the owner just left there walking away without a care. Amazing and disgusting in equal measure.

It obviously Gaulle(d) you!   But after all it WAS Paris!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 07, 2013, 09:02:18 am
I try to get get back to the subject but POO comes back,what the hell,anyway had a drink in Dr Jonses last nite,it was ok,still awaiting their Brains bitter for some reason.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 07, 2013, 09:04:16 am
If Poundstretchers is going to Comet and with the closure of The Manor that is going to leave a massivr hole in Upper Mostyn st.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 07, 2013, 09:06:55 am
If Poundstretchers is going to Comet and with the closure of The Manor that is going to leave a massivr hole in Upper Mostyn st.

And if the Council hear about it, they'll send a couple of men to "look into it"  :D, and decide how they can best mend it!   :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 07, 2013, 10:46:03 am
Pound stretchers are not moving, it will be an additional shop according to the sales assistant last Thursday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on July 07, 2013, 11:17:24 am
I dont believe the sales assistants are kept in the loop.
Have you noticed how the stock on the shelves at Poundstretcher is deminishing.
another point is have you seen the Poundstretcher outlet in Hollyhead. It is on the retail park. a large unit with lots of stock piled up to the ceiling.. Now if that is their plan in LLandudno then why keep a store open at what is now the wrong end of town. My money is on yet another bar
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 07, 2013, 04:29:10 pm
The signs and menu for 'Hungry 4 Hungarian' restaurant have all disappeared - how odd?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 07, 2013, 05:01:24 pm
Taps side of nose :-

Wonder why?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 07, 2013, 10:23:31 pm
Nem, I suspect that you might know something about this,  if so.....  &well&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 08, 2013, 09:10:57 am
Nothing to do with me-- just someone I know
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 10, 2013, 02:03:20 pm
We drove down Rhos prom yesterday with a view to trying somewhere new to us for lunch. We drove in to Rhos Fynach not knowing what to expect but we were delighted with our freshly cooked meals. I had grilled plaice with lemon and caper butter served with new potatoes and green beans. Mr Hollins had salmon which was also not overcooked and well presented.
We were served at the table by friendly staff and would return.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2013, 02:14:36 pm
Looks like its improved a lot from the last time I ate there....  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 10, 2013, 02:44:01 pm
I noticed this on the website. I don't know if this has made a difference.

The Rhos Fynach recently joined the Oriel Country Hotel & Spa (Denbighshire’s only 4 star hotel) and The Bridge Restaurant in St Asaph group of companies; the intention is to maintain Rhos Fynach’s old world charm whilst offering quality, fresh, delicious food for the pub, restaurant and function room.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 10, 2013, 03:01:18 pm
Dr Jones Bar & Grill in Upper Mostyn St is now open.

Passed last night at about 7.45 pm and it seemed closed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2013, 03:06:20 pm
Just been past the former Merrymoon shop and the exterior is being painted. I believe they are aiming to get the new cafe open by the end of this month.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 10, 2013, 04:21:19 pm
So hot when in Town today, I decided to treat myself to a cooling ice-cream ........ That was until I saw the prices.  Most price lists (where they actually had one) seemed to have been "marked up", probably to take advantage of the extra demand during this weather.

To preserve my pension I opted out and waited until I arrived at my usual coffee house, Cafe Dewi, where I partook of three large scoops of vanilla ice cream, at the very acceptable price of £1.00.  Needless to say, St David's Hospice does get extra benefits from me when I am able to donate.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 10, 2013, 04:24:02 pm
Careful Yorkie-- you'll get branded as mean-- like I did ! :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on July 10, 2013, 04:26:40 pm
So hot when in Town today, I decided to treat myself to a cooling ice-cream ........ That was until I saw the prices.  Most price lists (where they actually had one) seemed to have been "marked up", probably to take advantage of the extra demand during this weather.

To preserve my pension I opted out and waited until I arrived at my usual coffee house, Cafe Dewi, where I partook of three large scoops of vanilla ice cream, at the very acceptable price of £1.00.  Needless to say, St David's Hospice does get extra benefits from me when I am able to donate.
 ZXZ

Special offer on Conwy Quay.....3 ice creams for £10.00!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 10, 2013, 05:49:31 pm
Careful Yorkie-- you'll get branded as mean-- like I did ! :twoface:

I love being called, "mean", I could be the richest mean naughty boy in Town!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 10, 2013, 06:14:18 pm
 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 10, 2013, 06:32:35 pm
After receiving this advert in an e-mail this morning we decided to call over at 4.30pm only to find nobody outside on the lawn and the BBQ appeared to be out-of-action.

We waited for 10 minutes sitting on a bench outside.

We then decided to leave and drove up to Conwy to the Archway Cafe and very much enjoyed two meals of cod, chips and peas, bread & butter plus a pot of tea for two at a total cost of £13.50 plus £2 tip + £1 parking = £16.50.

Excellent value for money and good service.

P.S. - DaveR, what have I done wrong with the photograph?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 10, 2013, 06:37:34 pm
Careful Yorkie-- you'll get branded as mean-- like I did ! :twoface:

I love being called, "mean", I could be the richest mean naughty boy in Town!    ZXZ

DaveR or Ian please remove the word immediately.  You may replace the middle letters with asterisks, as I thought the Forum software would do automatically!   I regard the intervention with such a word as most objectionable!

In fact it may be better to do a full edit and delete the whole comment!

I am surprised that either of you should make such a despicable edit!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 10, 2013, 06:45:11 pm
Thanks for posting that Bri, I had an e-mail about the BBQ and thought about going so I'm glad I didn't.   The Archways always have nice food so I'm pleased that you enjoyed it there instead.     $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2013, 10:45:03 pm
As I'm sure you are aware, the Forum has a system in place whereby swearwords are replaced by more innocuous terms. If you choose to use such inappropriate language, then it will automatically be replaced, I'm afraid.

Please remember that children can read this Forum.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 11, 2013, 12:39:42 am
Mrs Fester and I popped in to The Groes Inn at Ty'n Y Groes on Monday night.

However, we were intrigued by the menu and the fabulous looking dishes being delivered to adjacent tables.  So we stayed for a proper nosh up!

Without going into detail, the total bill, including drinks, starters, main courses and cheese board came to £60 but I have never eaten as well as this (quality wise) in the last ten years at least.
I will let you discover it for yourselves, but it is highly recommended and I cannot wait to go back, maybe as soon as this weekend.  $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 11, 2013, 07:47:57 am
I am aware of the correct use of Forums but when I posted the word I presumed it would be adjusted automatically.  However, when the post was actually put on the Forum the word was shown in full as I had typed it and had NOT been adjusted,  I therefore presumed (incorrectly as it would seem) that it was NOT a banned word.

I am sure that as an intelligent person you would realise that the use of the "b" word is NOT always meant to represent "illegitimate" and is, in fact a word used in general parlance to refer to
certain people.   The use "illegitimate" in this case placed a reflection on my Parents and myself and with the addition of the word "son" became personal and more insulting than the use of the word itself.

Children now, have a vocabulary of words that generally include the "f" word and almost every other expletive known to man.

The "b" word is, in fact, in the Oxford English, and every other Dictionary I possess, so I cannot see why its use should be disallowed.

In future I will be somewhat more careful when posting to this Forum.

I now request again for the offensive words to be removed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2013, 08:37:45 am
I've looked at the Oxford English dictionary of that word...

1] archaic or derogatory a person born of parents not married to each other.
2] informal an unpleasant or despicable person:


I'm a touch surprised you would choose to refer to yourself as 'an unpleasant or despicable person'? :twoface:

But anyway, I've changed the word replacement to say 'naughty boy' instead. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2013, 10:24:56 am
The Castle View pub in Deganwy is available for lease.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 11, 2013, 02:12:36 pm
I've looked at the Oxford English dictionary of that word...

1] archaic or derogatory a person born of parents not married to each other.
2] informal an unpleasant or despicable person:


I'm a touch surprised you would choose to refer to yourself as 'an unpleasant or despicable person'? :twoface:

But anyway, I've changed the word replacement to say 'naughty boy' instead. $good$

Thank you.   

Whilst one can read litteral meanings of words from text books, in everyday language we do not always mean what the Dictionary defines.  See the current thread on peculiar expressions.

I would never regard myself as despicable but certainly, those who know me will tell you, I can be extremely unpleasant.   
 D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 11, 2013, 02:39:44 pm
 :o Oh heck !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2013, 02:40:40 pm
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 11, 2013, 05:13:40 pm
 :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on July 11, 2013, 07:39:37 pm
I'm impressed with the Albion Ale House in Conwy, which I stumbled across this lunchtime. Interesting (and seemingly very old) architectural features, very good selection of locally-brewed beers, nice and quiet, friendly bar staff... and they sell pies!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 16, 2013, 09:05:32 am
The Cadwaladars cafe in Mostyn St is being refitted and will be reopening shortly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 16, 2013, 11:07:09 pm
Lunchtime today we thought we would try the Lilly Bar and Grill in upper Mostyn Street, the old Fat Cat, being vegetarians that only like certain foods it can be tricky for us, but no worries today! Er indoors had Tagliatelle of wild mushrooms and I had a mushroom omlette with chips and salad, both meals were excellent and good value too, we will return! We went at about 12pm, nice and quiet how we like it! They are receiving great reviews on Tripadvisor too! $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2013, 06:03:50 pm
Oscar is reporting that a branch of Dylans, the Menai Bridge Pizzeria, will be opening on Conwy Quay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 18, 2013, 09:51:46 pm
Never heard off it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 18, 2013, 11:58:53 pm
Oscar is reporting that a branch of Dylans, the Menai Bridge Pizzeria, will be opening on Conwy Quay.

Friends of mine went to the Menai Bridge one yesterday, said it was superb.
I believe it is more of a speciality fish restaurant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 19, 2013, 05:05:35 am
Never heard off it.

Welsh pizza isn't that common.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2013, 06:46:43 am
Oscar is reporting that a branch of Dylans, the Menai Bridge Pizzeria, will be opening on Conwy Quay.

Friends of mine went to the Menai Bridge one yesterday, said it was superb.
I believe it is more of a speciality fish restaurant
I've been there a couple of times and it is very good:
http://www.dylansrestaurant.co.uk/about.php (http://www.dylansrestaurant.co.uk/about.php)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 26, 2013, 08:06:22 pm
Parade open again,more managers than Blackburn Rovers.What a shame the owners of the Washington hav;nt seen the massive gap in the market and re-opened the place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 26, 2013, 08:42:13 pm
Seems like the lads from the Town House and Cross Keys have taken on the Parade,good luck.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2013, 04:59:09 pm
When out for a spin this afternoon we were passing Tides Cafe at Llandullas so decided to pop in for a coffee and a slice of Bara Brith.  As it happens we should have kept passing.

We took  a table that had just been vacated.  A serving person cleared the used crockery but left the table dirty with crumbs, sugar crystals and wet areas.  The Mrs placed our order at the counter and in due time to cups of insipid Cappuccino arrived.  In fact it was an insult to the liquid in the oversize cups to refer to it a such.  We had to get sugar from another table as the receptacle on our table was empty.

The two small slices of Bara Brith arrived with some butter that was almost liquid in its wrapping, due no doubt to the heat!  The BB was virtually fruitless and any resemblance between it and the real stuff was totally coincidental.  How the quality of this National Delicacy can vary so much from place to place never fails to amuse me.

As far as we are concerned The Tide is now well and truly OUT for Tides.
 ZXZ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Micox on July 29, 2013, 03:25:36 pm
Best bara brith we've ever had was in a little coffee house just off the square in Montgomery. Coffee and service was excellent and the parrots were entertaining. $lol$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on July 29, 2013, 04:32:10 pm
Seems like the lads from the Town House and Cross Keys have taken on the Parade,good luck.

I'd heard it was Kevin Chin? Either way that's not too bad they have done well with the Keys $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on July 29, 2013, 06:31:35 pm
Best bara brith we've ever had was in a little coffee house just off the square in Montgomery. Coffee and service was excellent and the parrots were entertaining. $lol$

I didn't know the Parrots gang were still in existance.

Were they on a coach trip from Llandudno?  :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 29, 2013, 08:45:43 pm
Long live the Parrots.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 29, 2013, 10:48:35 pm
When out for a spin this afternoon we were passing Tides Cafe at Llandullas so decided to pop in for a coffee and a slice of Bara Brith.  As it happens we should have kept passing.

We took  a table that had just been vacated.  A serving person cleared the used crockery but left the table dirty with crumbs, sugar crystals and wet areas.  The Mrs placed our order at the counter and in due time to cups of insipid Cappuccino arrived.  In fact it was an insult to the liquid in the oversize cups to refer to it a such.  We had to get sugar from another table as the receptacle on our table was empty.

The two small slices of Bara Brith arrived with some butter that was almost liquid in its wrapping, due no doubt to the heat!  The BB was virtually fruitless and any resemblance between it and the real stuff was totally coincidental.  How the quality of this National Delicacy can vary so much from place to place never fails to amuse me.


As far as we are concerned The Tide is now well and truly OUT for Tides.
 ZXZ

The most recent Bara brith we have had which was good was at the RSPB Conwy, really nice cakes too. Also bought from Aldi the Popty bakery Bara brith quite nice but more like cake than a loaf. There are many different recipes. I have tried to bake one but turned out so heavy could have broken a window with it. The birds enjoyed it for weeks on the bird table  _))* I think a Celtic fayre is coming to Conwy either this week or next, usually picked one up from one of the bakery stalls and usually they have samples.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 30, 2013, 06:23:27 am
I actually make my own, so do know what a good Bara Brith is like.  It should  be a bit on the heavy side due to the fruit and nice moist consistency.    Recipe available if anyone wants it.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 30, 2013, 10:19:53 am
Yes I would like the recipe Yorkie, I am a cake baker but Bara brith and other fruit loaves i havent made many of, so would appreciate that. I use to buy years ago from Cadwgan bakery when a dear old friend baked for them every christmas. Never had one quite as good since. ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 30, 2013, 10:59:08 am
Yorkie's Recipe for Bara Brith

INGREDIENTS
500 gr mixed dried fruit  (pop a few chopped glace cherries in if you wish, I don't)
300 ml cold strong tea (1/2 pint)
3 tbsp orange marmalade
1 large egg beaten
7 tbsp dark brown sugar (Muscavado)
1 - 2 tsp mixed spice (depending on taste)
500 gr self-raising flour
honey to glaze

METHOD
1. Soak fruit overnight in the tea.
2) Next day, thoroughly mix the soaked fruit, marmalade, egg, sugar, spice and flour to a wet consistency.  If it appears too dry add some more cold tea, or as I do, add a splash of sherry or a miniature Brandy.
3) Spoon into a large loaf tin or two smaller tins up to about the 3/4 level.
4) Bake in the preheated oven (set to gas 3, 325*F or 170*C) for approximately 1 3/4 hours or until the centre is cooked through. (Use the skewer test).  Check the cooking from time to time to make sure the top does not brown too much, or burn.  If this looks likely cover with foil or move down a shelf.   It is easy to overcook so be careful and you will finish with a nice moist, fruity result.
5) When cooked leave to cool for 5 minutes and then tip onto a cooling tray.  Glaze the top with the honey.
6) When cold serve sliced with salted butter and, if you like, some tasty farmhouse Cheddar.
7) Store in an airtight tin.  (I cut mine in two and freeze one half)

As the results of using this recipe lie with the person doing the baking, I will not accept any responsibility for any poor, undercooked, burnt or awful results.  It works for me!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 30, 2013, 01:35:45 pm
Don't forget to grease the tin, even if it is the non-stick variety, or the BB may be difficult to remove.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Paulakelsall on July 30, 2013, 09:31:14 pm
"Yorkie's Recipe for Bara Brith"

I very much appreciate this recipe having wanted to make Bara Brith for sometime. Thank you! I look forward to making it albeit in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on July 30, 2013, 10:47:05 pm
Yorkie's Recipe for Bara Brith

INGREDIENTS
500 gr mixed dried fruit  (pop a few chopped glace cherries in if you wish, I don't)
300 ml cold strong tea (1/2 pint)
3 tbsp orange marmalade
1 large egg beaten
7 tbsp dark brown sugar (Muscavado)
1 - 2 tsp mixed spice (depending on taste)
500 gr self-raising flour
honey to glaze

METHOD
1. Soak fruit overnight in the tea.
2) Next day, thoroughly mix the soaked fruit, marmalade, egg, sugar, spice and flour to a wet consistency.  If it appears too dry add some more cold tea, or as I do, add a splash of sherry or a miniature Brandy.
3) Spoon into a large loaf tin or two smaller tins up to about the 3/4 level.
4) Bake in the preheated oven (set to gas 3, 325*F or 170*C) for approximately 1 3/4 hours or until the centre is cooked through. (Use the skewer test).  Check the cooking from time to time to make sure the top does not brown too much, or burn.  If this looks likely cover with foil or move down a shelf.   It is easy to overcook so be careful and you will finish with a nice moist, fruity result.
5) When cooked leave to cool for 5 minutes and then tip onto a cooling tray.  Glaze the top with the honey.
6) When cold serve sliced with salted butter and, if you like, some tasty farmhouse Cheddar.
7) Store in an airtight tin.  (I cut mine in two and freeze one half)

As the results of using this recipe lie with the person doing the baking, I will not accept any responsibility for any poor, undercooked, burnt or awful results.  It works for me!   :D
So in other words if mine turns out heavy enough to break a window again or feed the birds for a month it is purely my doing.  ;D I love your disclaimer Yorkie, ill try to do your recipe justice thank you ! ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 30, 2013, 11:08:58 pm
Looks like the new takeaway business next to Zak's kebabs in Upper Mostyn Street is ready to open.
I saw the owner tonight checking that the door swings open without a problem.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 31, 2013, 01:26:40 pm
What exactly does one 'Take Away'?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 31, 2013, 02:30:05 pm
Fish & Chips
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on July 31, 2013, 02:38:36 pm
Fish & Chips

How many take aways in town now??!!! must be at least one per pub if not more - what a nation of fatties we really are   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on July 31, 2013, 03:14:43 pm
 Think there r a lot of takeaways in Llandudno? Then think again.

 Crewe. Turn left coming out of the railway station and walk straight along that road. A couple of years back I did --- and counted. I got to over thirty on both sides of the road, often next door to each other, in a quarter mile. Now THAT'S what I cann takeaway land
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2013, 10:47:51 am
The new cafe in the former Merrymoon shop will be opening on the 9th August.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 04, 2013, 01:58:12 pm
Why don't they make one long cafe from the Empire Hotel all the way to Mostyn Champneys?   How will all these cafes survive ontside of the main tourist season?   
 $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 04, 2013, 04:21:59 pm
What an oppertunity for someone to re-open the Royal hotel,the Mostyn Arms could be as a micro brewery pub,no chains,we all know how well the Albion is doing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 04, 2013, 04:23:16 pm
Best bara brith we've ever had was in a little coffee house just off the square in Montgomery. Coffee and service was excellent and the parrots were entertaining. $lol$

We had a delicious slice of Bara Brith at Steffan's café Penceunant as we were coming down from Snowdon.  Well worth a visit for anyone who is visiting the Llanberis area.     $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2013, 09:11:07 am
It's a truly great cafe, Hugo, and Steffan always makes everyone so welcome.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2013, 09:12:06 am
The new cafe in the former Merrymoon shop will be opening on the 9th August.
They are pulling out all the stops to open on time but it looks to be a tough deadline. I've seen them working at 7.30am in there every day this week.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2013, 09:13:19 am
Seems like the lads from the Town House and Cross Keys have taken on the Parade,good luck.

I'd heard it was Kevin Chin? Either way that's not too bad they have done well with the Keys $good$
Maybe the carpet in there could do with a clean though. I genuinely though they had a black carpet until I looked more closely and realised it was just pure dirt.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 07, 2013, 11:14:43 am
The new cafe in the former Merrymoon shop will be opening on the 9th August.
They are pulling out all the stops to open on time but it looks to be a tough deadline. I've seen them working at 7.30am in there every day this week.

They were still working when I walked past last night at 8pm-- looks far from finished.

My thoughts on dirty carpets-- if there is dirt that you can see what is there where you can't ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jonty Hammers on August 07, 2013, 02:04:32 pm
Anyone know who it is who's moving in to that former Merrymoon on the corner? Dare I hold my breath and await the arrival of yet another American-style bar and grill?  ;D

(Not that I would turn one down in a hurry, mind you!)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2013, 02:23:41 pm
Anyone know who it is who's moving in to that former Merrymoon on the corner? Dare I hold my breath and await the arrival of yet another American-style bar and grill?  ;D

(Not that I would turn one down in a hurry, mind you!)
I believe it's more of an ice cream parlour type cafe?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jonty Hammers on August 07, 2013, 02:37:50 pm
Sounds like something my kids would enjoy! I'll have to look-in.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 07, 2013, 04:25:33 pm
Anyone know who it is who's moving in to that former Merrymoon on the corner? Dare I hold my breath and await the arrival of yet another American-style bar and grill?  ;D

(Not that I would turn one down in a hurry, mind you!)

Be thankful you don't live near me.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2013, 05:57:32 pm
Broadway Boulevard has gone up for sale:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on August 07, 2013, 07:11:22 pm
Quote
Maybe the carpet in there could do with a clean though. I genuinely though they had a black carpet until I looked more closely and realised it was just pure dirt.
I went for lunch with my friend to the London last week and it was very nice indeed,but after a hot afternoon's shopping we decided to stop at the Cross Keys for a cold drink and I struggled to lift the chair off the sticky carpet,it was that dirty,and the furniture had seen much better days too.I won't be going back there in a hurry.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2013, 09:13:36 pm
Nice to see you posting again, Barbiroli.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on August 07, 2013, 10:19:28 pm
Thanks Dave R  It was due to my other half having had a stroke in January he was in hospital for two months so I have been looking after him since he came home, but I do keep reading all the posts.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 07, 2013, 11:02:55 pm
Very sorry to hear that! Hope all goes well for you!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2013, 12:10:45 am
Hey Barbs.... nice to hear from you.  Hope to see you down here soon.    :-* :-*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 08, 2013, 01:05:24 am
Welcome back Barbiroli. Tell your OH I was asking for him.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 08, 2013, 01:01:55 pm
Nice to see you posting again Barbiroli although we have spoken a couple of times in the interim. ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barbiroli on August 08, 2013, 06:46:04 pm
Thanks to you all for your concern it is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2013, 09:33:04 pm
Last night in the Fountains, I saw this fantastic and hilarious piece of advertising.

You have to admire the honesty, and I bet they sold loads of it!   L0L L0L :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 09, 2013, 06:43:21 am
Broadway Boulevard can be yours for £750,000:
http://www.agg.uk.com/download.php?f=sites/default/files/repository/property_pdfs/broadway_llandudno.pdf (http://www.agg.uk.com/download.php?f=sites/default/files/repository/property_pdfs/broadway_llandudno.pdf)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 09, 2013, 07:41:27 am
Must need a lot of money spending on it!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 09, 2013, 07:43:32 am
Last night in the Fountains, I saw this fantastic and hilarious piece of advertising.

You have to admire the honesty, and I bet they sold loads of it!   L0L L0L :laugh: :laugh:

Have they got Gerald Ratner working there?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 09, 2013, 08:59:49 am
Quote
Last night in the Fountains, I saw this fantastic and hilarious piece of advertising.  You have to admire the honesty, and I bet they sold loads of it!


 _))* _))* _))*

Clearly designed to appeal to a specific clientèle.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 09, 2013, 06:13:04 pm
The new cafe/restaurant in the Merrymoon shop is called One Two One. It's very close to opening now, maybe tomorrow?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 09, 2013, 06:27:19 pm
The new cafe/restaurant in the Merrymoon shop is called One Two One. It's very close to opening now, maybe tomorrow?

Is the name a possible clue to the new owner?   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 09, 2013, 06:38:09 pm
The new cafe/restaurant in the Merrymoon shop is called One Two One. It's very close to opening now, maybe tomorrow?

Is the name a possible clue to the new owner?   :D
Could be. Or maybe it's because it's at 121 Mostyn Street?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2013, 07:21:30 am
The new cafe/restaurant in the Merrymoon shop is called One Two One. It's very close to opening now, maybe tomorrow?

Is the name a possible clue to the new owner?   :D
Could be. Or maybe it's because it's at 121 Mostyn Street?  ;)

Ah - how clever - naming it after the street number!   Now where have I seen that before?   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2013, 08:28:54 am
The new cafe/restaurant in the Merrymoon shop is called One Two One. It's very close to opening now, maybe tomorrow?

It is all ready this morning-- ice cream cart outside and plants on tables. Credit where it is due-- they have worked non-stop these last few days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2013, 02:35:34 pm
The new cafe/restaurant in the Merrymoon shop is called One Two One. It's very close to opening now, maybe tomorrow?

It is all ready this morning-- ice cream cart outside and plants on tables. Credit where it is due-- they have worked non-stop these last few days.
I visited new cafe with Mr Fester this afternoon. It looks very good, nicely fitted out, smart staff, good quality food & drink. Very busy too, every table taken. Well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2013, 04:49:06 pm
I visited new cafe with Mr Fester this afternoon. It looks very good, nicely fitted out, smart staff, good quality food & drink. Very busy too, every table taken. Well worth a visit.

We intended to stop by but the place was full, and every table occupied.   :D

Will give it try Tuesday afternoon and see what's what!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 10, 2013, 10:00:15 pm
Yes, as Dave Says, the One Two One Cafe deserves credit, it was very well presented indeed,  the drinks were excellent and a very reasonable price too.

The added benefit is the view across the main roundabout, with clock and flowers to see!

Plus today afforded us a great vista for people-watching!  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 11, 2013, 09:45:41 am
I think DaveR and Fester should take over the old Hoosons corner shop and open their own cafe,any suggestions for the name.Mine would be The Old Mans corner.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2013, 02:09:22 pm
I think DaveR and Fester should take over the old Hoosons corner shop and open their own cafe,any suggestions for the name.Mine would be The Old Mans corner.
You'd be eligible to join us anytime, mate.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 11, 2013, 04:10:22 pm
Thanks Dave,there is nobody older and more of a moaner than me but i know nothing about coffee.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 11, 2013, 04:48:03 pm
Any old dears allowed in?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 11, 2013, 05:11:42 pm
Thanks Dave,there is nobody older and more of a moaner than me but i know nothing about coffee.

Based on age and reputation, I think that honour should be mine!    :rage:
And I can also tell the difference between Columbian and Nescafe!    :P
But I am sure the Welcome to you at 121 or any other hostelry will be just as warm!   :D

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 11, 2013, 05:47:33 pm
There is one man scrapeing the old paint off the Washington,nice to know it going to get a fresh coat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2013, 11:50:35 pm
There is one man scrapeing the old paint off the Washington,nice to know it going to get a fresh coat.
Maybe he is doing the 'prep' before a proper decorator makes the place look decent again.... fancy that job Wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2013, 07:01:26 pm
Decided to give 121 a try this afternoon but found it impossible to park, even with my Blue Badge!   Went past and the cafe was very busy so I don't think we would have found a seat.   Will have to try again either much earlier or later in the day.    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 13, 2013, 07:11:45 pm
Decided to give 121 a try this afternoon but found it impossible to park, even with my Blue Badge!   Went past and the cafe was very busy so I don't think we would have found a seat.   Will have to try again either much earlier or later in the day.    ZXZ

A good way to find out what an establishment is like, is to use Trip Advisor beforehand.  $dins$

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurants (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurants)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2013, 07:25:57 pm
Except that it has only just opened!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on August 13, 2013, 07:33:49 pm
Except that it has only just opened!   :D

 ))* I'm a bit out of the loop nowadays.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2013, 08:25:38 am
Yesterday morning at about 9.30 we paid a visit to Cafe 121.
My feelings can be summed up as follows.

No, "Hello, Good Morning and Welcome."  In fact totally ignored, but then again the place was busy with all of 4 people in the place.

No Menu but a note saying, "Order at Counter".   2 Cappuccinos and a portion of toast ordered.
Caps were fine albeit rather small cups.

Two very thin pieces of toast arrived at table a few minutes later, one piece being a "half" crust and both already with butter or marge on (Psychic staff?).  No preserve as stated on menu, so asked and served with a very minute glass pot containing a small spoonful of marmalade (which was my choice, the marmalade, not the amount!).   At £1.75 I considered it a complete rip off.   The coffee at £1.95 per cup, reasonable for a good cap in prime location.  I do not approve of loose unwrapped sugar even though in a covered jar, and think that preserves in sealed portions would be more acceptable than the open servings.

As we left I gave my usual "Thank you!"  which was greeted with total silence as it it was a foreign language.

I got the feeling that the staff could do with some hospitality training and not treat a couple of white haired OAP's as if they were just here for a couple of days holiday and at least give them some civility and courteous attention.

I bet, had they known I would be penning this comment, the treatment would have been somewhat different, or would it?  I have my doubts!
 :(  :(  $drink$

I will give them another try just to see if this was just a one off experience.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on August 15, 2013, 09:10:34 am
Not used the place myself, but lets face it they have elected to open in the perfect spot for capturing the oaps and Holiday makers.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 15, 2013, 09:33:41 am
Yesterday morning at about 9.30 we paid a visit to Cafe 121.
My feelings can be summed up as follows.

No, "Hello, Good Morning and Welcome."


David Frost not working there then?  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 15, 2013, 11:26:57 am
Funnily enough, I had breakfast in 121 this morning - it was excellent and the staff were very polite.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2013, 12:09:38 pm
No, "Hello, Good Morning and Welcome."


David Frost not working there then?  ;D

I was going to write, "No David Frost welcome." But thought it a bit too subtle for some!  Despite that it was a very cool reception!   :'(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2013, 12:15:27 pm
Funnily enough, I had breakfast in 121 this morning - it was excellent and the staff were very polite.  $good$

Maybe they have a different attitude to the younger, more affluent client!   I can only speak as I find, and in accordance with the standards I expect and would extend to others myself!
 ;D

As I said, I will try again and not judge by just the one visit.  Can't be fairer than that.
 :roll:

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Big Alan on August 15, 2013, 12:52:42 pm
Maybe you are just a miserable sod. Just saying.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2013, 01:42:49 pm
Maybe you are just a miserable sod. Just saying.

I AM an old miserable sod, and particularly dislike cynics!  :P   Just saying!   :D

I am also able to list the places I consider as being worthy of the praise they get from others, and who also get my whole hearted endorsement.  There are plenty in the area, and also within a short drive.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 15, 2013, 01:43:55 pm
 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 15, 2013, 02:21:36 pm
Funnily enough, I had breakfast in 121 this morning - it was excellent and the staff were very polite.  $good$

Dave, do you know if they can do a veggie breakfast?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 15, 2013, 02:26:02 pm
Yorkie, you are a gem and I certainly value your feedback.  $thanx$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Big Alan on August 15, 2013, 03:46:32 pm
Ha ha, well  in Yorkie, my comment was taken with the humour intended  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2013, 04:17:56 pm
Life is not an easy matter...
You cannot live through it without falling into frustration and cynicism unless you have before you a great idea which raises you above personal misery, above weakness, above all kinds of perfidy and baseness.
Leon Trotsky

Politics, Hope, End
Most cynics are really crushed romantics: they've been hurt, they're sensitive, and their cynicism is a shell that's protecting this tiny, dear part in them that's still alive.
Jeff Bridges

 ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 15, 2013, 04:47:29 pm
Funnily enough, I had breakfast in 121 this morning - it was excellent and the staff were very polite.  $good$

Dave, do you know if they can do a veggie breakfast?
They do offer a veggie option.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 15, 2013, 07:26:31 pm
Cheers Dave, we must try it! Perhaps tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2013, 08:33:20 pm
Cheers Dave, we must try it! Perhaps tomorrow morning!

I too would love to try it again tomorrow but I am off up to North Yorkshire, proving a route for the car club's annual rally.  Next week maybe for a good fry up!  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 16, 2013, 12:24:32 am
Funnily enough, I had breakfast in 121 this morning - it was excellent and the staff were very polite.  $good$

Dave, do you know if they can do a veggie breakfast?

As comedian Frankie Boyle was told when he enquired, ....'Is there a vegetarian option?'

The reply........'Yes Sir... you can F##K OFF'       :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 16, 2013, 04:52:01 pm
Saw them stocking up the new Orme Fish and Chip takeaway next to Zaks in Upper Mostyn Street this afternoon so expect it will be open this week-end.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 16, 2013, 10:33:41 pm
Better late than never I suppose,  unlike the abortive 'Oatcake Shop'

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 17, 2013, 11:21:40 am
The sign which is propped up inside seems to have had the "Opening Shortly" part erased.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 17, 2013, 08:53:53 pm
The sign which is propped up inside seems to have had the "Opening Shortly" part erased.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on August 20, 2013, 04:04:17 pm
There's shock news over on TripAdvisor as the Orient Express overtakes Characters as the top ranked Llandudno eaterie.

Has anyone got any idea how TA come up with their rankings, it always seems to have a degree of randomness thrown into the calculations?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2013, 04:58:18 pm
The sign which is propped up inside seems to have had the "Opening Shortly" part erased.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Funnily enough, I was going past yesterday and the paintbrush was in use again outside, has to be the most painted shop in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2013, 05:00:23 pm
There's shock news over on TripAdvisor as the Orient Express overtakes Characters as the top ranked Llandudno eaterie.

Has anyone got any idea how TA come up with their rankings, it always seems to have a degree of randomness thrown into the calculations?
I had breakfast in Orient Express a few days ago, the service was superb and the breakfast good but the sausages could have been a little better quality. The breakfast in 121 was a touch better, in my view.

I heard a whisper that Yorkie had been back to 121, is that true?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 20, 2013, 05:20:03 pm

I heard a whisper that Yorkie had been back to 121, is that true?  ;)

Obviously you shouldn't listen to whispers.  Since last thursday night I have been in North Yorkshire with my Son and Heir organising our Car Club's Annual Meet!

I did say I would return to 121, see my earlier post, to have a further appraisal.  My first day out for a coffee was today when we went to our usual watering hole at Cafe Dewi.

TA appraisals are based purely on what people write about the place and what Star rating they give.  Some places arrange with friends to make "special" comments - good about themselves and bad about competitors.  Hence they are not exactly reliable.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 20, 2013, 05:22:25 pm

Funnily enough, I was going past yesterday and the paintbrush was in use again outside, has to be the most painted shop in Llandudno.
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She had a number of train related things outside for sale over the weekend-- also the big cheetah which has been there for ever !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 20, 2013, 05:55:10 pm
  My first day out for a coffee was today when we went to our usual watering hole at Cafe Dewi.

We called in yesterday after depositing my annual lottery cheque and collecting their latest Teddy Bear.

By doing so, we managed to polish off the last of the coffee and walnut cake.  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 20, 2013, 05:59:05 pm
We called in yesterday after depositing my annual lottery cheque and collecting their latest Teddy Bear.

By doing so, we managed to polish off the last of the coffee and walnut cake.  ;)

I'm not a cake eater, so you could have had my piece also!  We are in there most afternoons when we're in town.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 22, 2013, 08:57:40 pm
Well, I couldn't spend a whole day in Llandudno without telling you what I had for lunch, could I?
Delicious smoked salmon and scambled egg freshly cooked at Le Gatte. Excellent.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2013, 09:16:07 pm
Haven't been there for some time but it has always been excellent when I visited.

I went to 121 for a mid morning snack today, have to say food & service was great, couldn't fault it at all.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 23, 2013, 07:14:10 am
Haven't been there for some time but it has always been excellent when I visited.

I went to 121 for a mid morning snack today, have to say food & service was great, couldn't fault it at all.

Looks like it has settled down and becoming consistent in its quality!   ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 23, 2013, 08:38:12 am
You'd best give it another try.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 24, 2013, 07:57:29 am
You'd best give it another try.  $good$

Called by last Thursday early and the place was empty so didn't bother.  Must have been before you went in for your super breakfast.  Will try again after Monday once I'm back home.   A few hundred miles away at present and breakfasting in Morrisons this morning!  And super it is too!  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on August 27, 2013, 08:42:41 pm
Cafe 121 has now appeared on Tripadvisor, so we can all luxuriate in giving our feedback!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2013, 08:54:31 pm
Do you have a link, Yelboh?  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on August 27, 2013, 09:02:58 pm
Hi Dave, link is
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d4750475-Reviews-One_Two_One-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d4750475-Reviews-One_Two_One-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Only one review for them so far, but I guess it has only just appeared on "trip" :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2013, 09:04:43 pm
Cheers, mate.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 31, 2013, 01:32:09 am
I fancied a visit to 'Characters', a supposedly new type of eating experience in Llandudno.

They encouraged bookings and enquiries via Facebook,  so we dutifully sent a message and a booking request.

After a few days, we heard nothing at all, so I resorted to the old-fashioned method of phoning them to ensure our booking was secure.
Sadly, we were met with a very terse 'sod-off, we are busy, please phone back later' type of reply.

No, we won't be doing that... instead, we will give our 'hard-earned' to businesses such as The Seahorse and others who know how to nurture custom and treat potential customers with a modicum of respect and courtesy.

You know what?  In Winter, they will be desperate for customers and Characters will be phoning ME back to solicit my custom.
I think I might be just a little too busy, giving my cash to their competitors.
On top of that, when my customers ask me to recommend a place to dine, as they do numerous times a week, what shall I be telling them?

What did Julia Roberts say to the obnoxious sales-girl in the film Pretty Woman?   'Big Mistake... Huge'


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on August 31, 2013, 10:24:53 am
The other day whilst waiting for an appointment in Colwyn bay, hub, daughter and I stopped for coffee and toast at a certain cafe. We ordered the coffee ,was asked if the decaff was black or white, daughter said black ,was given white so the lady serving gave her another one. Then our two coffees were poured and daughter noticed bits of food on cups and again we asked for clean cups. Instead of apologies she stomped into the side area and i could see her obviously having a quiet go at us.
All we had asked for was 1 decaff and two reg coffees and 3 toasts, How hard is that and maybe small smile on face wouldhave been nice.
I dread to think what would have happened if we had asked for full breakfasts.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 31, 2013, 11:00:30 am
Name and Shame and save Members of the Forum suffering the same experience!      ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 31, 2013, 11:18:39 am
and for the owners to help bring about change.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 31, 2013, 12:01:11 pm
and for the owners to help bring about change.

Which is the best reason of all!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 31, 2013, 03:49:20 pm
We put in our Bedbook "Please be a friend and tell us when something's wrong". That way a hole host of minor niggles and annoyances were easily avoided, and good customer service was usually maintained.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on August 31, 2013, 05:25:58 pm
The new "Orme" chippy is now listed on TripAdvisor and has it's first five star rating.  Might have to check it out sometime ;).

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d4758874-Reviews-The_Orme_Traditional_Fish_Chips-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d4758874-Reviews-The_Orme_Traditional_Fish_Chips-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on August 31, 2013, 10:42:29 pm
Name and Shame and save Members of the Forum suffering the same experience!      ZXZ

All i will say is prominent position for food shopping and noted for great toast. In all fairness it has been ok before but there is a certain member of staff that needs a little lesson in customer relations. Still we all have bad days ! but dirty coffee cups not acceptable by any standards.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 01, 2013, 12:50:03 pm
Walked past the back of Wetherspoons in Llandudno earlier and noticed they are seeking to vary their existing alcohol licence so they may serve alcohol from 8am every day of the week.

I wonder is there a demand locally?


 Z** ZXZ $drink$ _))++ ?{}?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on September 01, 2013, 01:36:35 pm
Yorkie's Recipe for Bara Brith

INGREDIENTS
500 gr mixed dried fruit  (pop a few chopped glace cherries in if you wish, I don't)
300 ml cold strong tea (1/2 pint)
3 tbsp orange marmalade
1 large egg beaten
7 tbsp dark brown sugar (Muscavado)
1 - 2 tsp mixed spice (depending on taste)
500 gr self-raising flour
honey to glaze

METHOD
1. Soak fruit overnight in the tea.
2) Next day, thoroughly mix the soaked fruit, marmalade, egg, sugar, spice and flour to a wet consistency.  If it appears too dry add some more cold tea, or as I do, add a splash of sherry or a miniature Brandy.
3) Spoon into a large loaf tin or two smaller tins up to about the 3/4 level.
4) Bake in the preheated oven (set to gas 3, 325*F or 170*C) for approximately 1 3/4 hours or until the centre is cooked through. (Use the skewer test).  Check the cooking from time to time to make sure the top does not brown too much, or burn.  If this looks likely cover with foil or move down a shelf.   It is easy to overcook so be careful and you will finish with a nice moist, fruity result.
5) When cooked leave to cool for 5 minutes and then tip onto a cooling tray.  Glaze the top with the honey.
6) When cold serve sliced with salted butter and, if you like, some tasty farmhouse Cheddar.
7) Store in an airtight tin.  (I cut mine in two and freeze one half)

As the results of using this recipe lie with the person doing the baking, I will not accept any responsibility for any poor, undercooked, burnt or awful results.  It works for me!   :D

Hi Yorkie tried your recipe, result was very good even though i cut down the sugar a little for me . I missed the bit about the tinfoil being used , so got a slightly well done top. Next time I will remember it. Highly recommended,Thank you. $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 01, 2013, 01:49:21 pm
Went to the Asia last nite,just as good as ever and very busy,he is doing something right.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2013, 04:15:26 pm
Walked past the back of Wetherspoons in Llandudno earlier and noticed they are seeking to vary their existing alcohol licence so they may serve alcohol from 8am every day of the week.

I wonder is there a demand locally?


 Z** ZXZ $drink$ _))++ ?{}?
Only amongst hardened alcoholics, I would imagine. Are J D Wetherspoon so lacking in corporate responsibility that they need to make a few extra pounds from the dregs of society?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 01, 2013, 04:22:51 pm
Went to the Asia last nite,just as good as ever and very busy,he is doing something right.

Two of our guests had an unfortunate meal at the Jasmine House last night.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 01, 2013, 06:15:42 pm
We need to know a bit more Nemisis,are they ill this morning.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 01, 2013, 09:19:52 pm
No, they polished off a full breakfast, but they said the food they had had the night before had a slimy greasy unpleasant texture. The night before they had been to the Bengal Dynasty and were somewhat noncommittal about their meal. Trouble is , you never know what some people will pass as decent food normally. Personally anything vaguely slimy would have been sent back ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 01, 2013, 10:04:30 pm
Hailing as I do from the curry capital of the UK, and having worked and eaten in India many times, I can categorically state the following about Llandudno's Asian restaurants.

The Asia is superb,   The Bengal Dynasty is truly terrible.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 02, 2013, 08:57:15 am
Never eaten in either, but from other people's comments it sounds as though you are right. As for the Jasmine House, I wouldn't have gone there after it was awarded 0 points by the food hygiene patrol.

These people left here at going up to 8pm and said they were going to the Seahorse, they hadn't made a booking, so my thoughts were that they wouldn't have a snowball in hell's chance of getting in on a Saturday evening.

I wasn't wrong !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 02, 2013, 09:08:51 am
Fester will hate me for saying this but earlier this year we visited the Bengal Dynasty for their Sunday Buffet and enjoyed it.

As a result, we must have returned about half a dozen times without any problems whatsoever.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 02, 2013, 10:15:17 am
I always say you speak as you find, we eat out so rarely these days I am not one to judge. ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 02, 2013, 06:40:54 pm
Fester will hate me for saying this but earlier this year we visited the Bengal Dynasty for their Sunday Buffet and enjoyed it.

As a result, we must have returned about half a dozen times without any problems whatsoever.

I think the customer service at the Bengal is far superior.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 02, 2013, 07:00:26 pm
Brilliant!  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 02, 2013, 07:26:58 pm
Perfect for a meal before the Ken Dodd show at Venue Cymru...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 02, 2013, 07:28:33 pm
Perfect for a meal before the Ken Dodd show at Venue Cymru...

 L0L L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 02, 2013, 07:51:53 pm
Fester will hate me for saying this but earlier this year we visited the Bengal Dynasty for their Sunday Buffet and enjoyed it.

As a result, we must have returned about half a dozen times without any problems whatsoever.

But Bri, there is a reason why The Asia don't do a £7, 'eat all you like' Sunday Buffet.

We did try that Sunday buffet last year, it was 'truly terrible'

What did you think of The Asia, Bri? Can you compare?



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 02, 2013, 10:01:27 pm
To be honest, Fester, I haven’t been there since it was called the Great Wall.

BTW, the cost of the buffet in Bengal Dynasty is now £8.95 which may help explain why it has improved since you went last year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 03, 2013, 12:33:48 am
In which case Bri, you should try The Asia, it is as good as ANY of the best Indian restaurants in the UK.
The quality of the ingredients and authentic dishes is first class, the range of different choices is endless.

You would never go to The Bengal Dysentry (as some call it) ever again.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 03, 2013, 08:41:58 am
Fester will hate me for saying this but earlier this year we visited the Bengal Dynasty for their Sunday Buffet and enjoyed it.

As a result, we must have returned about half a dozen times without any problems whatsoever.

I think the customer service at the Bengal is far superior.

The floor looks somewhat grim ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 04, 2013, 11:39:15 am
Walked past the back of Wetherspoons in Llandudno earlier and noticed they are seeking to vary their existing alcohol licence so they may serve alcohol from 8am every day of the week.

I wonder is there a demand locally?


 Z** ZXZ $drink$ _))++ ?{}?
Only amongst hardened alcoholics, I would imagine. Are J D Wetherspoon so lacking in corporate responsibility that they need to make a few extra pounds from the dregs of society?

In today’s Pioneer, I notice that Asda in Llandudno Junction has applied on the 29 August to vary its licence to sell alcohol from 06.00am – 24.00 am, Monday to Sunday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2013, 11:52:54 am
In today’s Pioneer, I notice that Asda in Llandudno Junction has applied on the 29 August to vary its licence to sell alcohol from 06.00am – 24.00 am, Monday to Sunday.

I don't know whether it is still the case, but in and around Covent Garden and the Docklands they had special licensing hours so that the workers could have a bevy in the early hours through to the afternoon.  It is said that it is possible to drink all day in the metropolis if you follow the trail from one place to another.  Never tried it myself!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 04, 2013, 02:26:52 pm
In today’s Pioneer, I notice that Asda in Llandudno Junction has applied on the 29 August to vary its licence to sell alcohol from 06.00am – 24.00 am, Monday to Sunday.

That's an interesting move given that they only (currently) open between 08.00am - 22.00pm. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 04, 2013, 02:52:23 pm
and probably 10am - 4pm on a Sunday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 04, 2013, 08:22:14 pm
I always knew this all-day drinking would never affect me... (hic)   Z** ZXZ _))++ $drink$ $drink1$ Z** ZXZ _))++ $drink$ $drink1$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 05, 2013, 03:19:44 pm
Every Restaurant in town has its ups and downs and how good they are is dependant on their current chief. Having tried both Bengal Dynasty and Asia in the near past I would say Asia's standards have slipped somewhat and the Bengal Dynasty have upped their game. So after all that I've come to the conclusion it's subjective Fester, you will just have to take your OH out for another meal in both and then give us another appraisal.  ££$ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 05, 2013, 04:49:06 pm
So after all that I've come to the conclusion it's subjective...... ££$

Sort of, "One man's meat is another man's poison."     ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on September 05, 2013, 04:59:00 pm
I see Mr. B's cafe, bistro, bar restaurant must be about to open in the old Pars restaurant and is advertising for staff in the pioneer this week.  It goes on to say the owners have many years experience in running gastro pubs, bistros and have extensive food knowledge.   ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2013, 05:00:47 pm
I see Mr. B's cafe, bistro, bar restaurant must be about to open in the old Pars restaurant and is advertising for staff in the pioneer this week.  It goes on to say the owners have many years experience in running gastro pubs, bistros and have extensive food knowledge.   ££$
I was looking at that sign yesterday, sounds promising. They're certainly making a big effort, the building has been gutted internally.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on September 05, 2013, 05:04:45 pm
I understand it was not in agood state inside.  Apparently it has a huge basement too, but it would need a lot of money spending in it before it was habitable! 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 05, 2013, 08:08:07 pm
Nice to see people still have faith in this old town
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 06, 2013, 03:07:58 pm
Tops chinese retaurant signs are up in Craig y don,it will be interesting to see what the Washington get up to now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 06, 2013, 03:09:28 pm
Do we know who is behind Mr B;s
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 06, 2013, 03:10:38 pm
Have the developers behind the Clarence let either of the two bottom units yet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 06, 2013, 03:49:02 pm
it will be interesting to see what the Washington get up to now.

It is likely to move into the ‘Local Eyesores’.

Do you think the owners could be waiting to build more apartments on the site?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 07, 2013, 04:46:57 am
Do we know who is behind Mr B;s

I heard John West was sleeping rough there.  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 07, 2013, 06:29:29 am
 :laugh: hopefully sleeping in a large tin can!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 08, 2013, 08:03:25 am
Went to the Cross Keys last nite,not sure what to make of the colour scheme or the bare state of the place,very weird.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2013, 08:57:44 am
Have they had a new carpet yet?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 08, 2013, 11:06:48 am
Yes a light grey one i think
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2013, 11:58:17 am
Good!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 09, 2013, 07:23:17 pm
It's better than it was, marginally.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 09, 2013, 09:48:55 pm
It seems that an application has been lodged for 'change of use' from retail to food & drink for an Ice Cream Parlour to be opened at 100 Upper Mostyn Street.

According to St Davids Property website, no 100 is currently the Escape clothing shop.
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?p=817 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?p=817)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2013, 10:39:02 am
Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Well, the Summer season has been and gone and the Oatcake Shop is still shown as 'Opening Soon'.  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 10, 2013, 07:06:51 pm
Shropshire Oatcake Shop Opening Soon
Freshly baked bread

Wholesale enquiries welcome.

Just read this in Upper Mostyn Street !!!!
Well, the Summer season has been and gone and the Oatcake Shop is still shown as 'Opening Soon'.  ???

Shropshire Oatcakes? They should be advertising Bara Ceirch - Welsh Oat Cakes.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 10, 2013, 09:44:06 pm
Quote
Well, the Summer season has been and gone and the Oatcake Shop is still shown as 'Opening Soon'.  ???


Should think those sacks of flour will start to move if they are left around much longer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 11, 2013, 09:43:26 pm
Driven by a hunger created by a drinking bout with Dave R, I decided to try the new Orme Fish and Chips in Upper Mostyn Street.

I bought Haddock, chips and curry sauce.  I have just finished it, and it was very good indeed.  $dins$
When you are so hungry that only fish & chips will do, then it really has to be decent.
I will be back there again, very good quality fish and chips.   I recommend it.

The two young lads who run it keep a very clean and presentable shop.   
In fact we had a longish chat whilst the haddock was being fried, but I can't remember a single thing they said.. due to the beer consumed.  $drink1$ $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 11, 2013, 09:51:37 pm
A good thing you didn't fancy a Staffordshire Oatcake...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 12, 2013, 12:56:33 am
A good thing you didn't fancy a Staffordshire Oatcake...  :laugh:

 L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Trojan on September 12, 2013, 12:58:02 am
I decided to try the new Orme Fish and Chips in Upper Mostyn Street

What an original name.  :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 12, 2013, 01:15:01 pm
A good thing you didn't fancy a Staffordshire Oatcake...  :laugh:

Think you are getting an obsession with the need for an oatcake ! _))* _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on September 12, 2013, 10:27:44 pm
Could someone enlighten me are the staffordshire oat cakes everyone talks about on here the wholemeal savoury pancake or like the scottish
version which is like a  cracker or biscuit for cheese etc. I do buy from asda or tesco their Oat cakes like pancakes to grill and use with bacon or cheese or a desert with honey or syrup, fruit and cream . Just asking  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 13, 2013, 12:00:16 am
Could someone enlighten me are the staffordshire oat cakes everyone talks about on here the wholemeal savoury pancake or like the scottish
version which is like a  cracker or biscuit for cheese etc. I do buy from asda or tesco their Oat cakes like pancakes to grill and use with bacon or cheese or a desert with honey or syrup, fruit and cream . Just asking  ???

I fear that in respect of the ones 'coming soon' to Llandudno, we may never know...  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on September 13, 2013, 12:35:34 am
Could someone enlighten me are the staffordshire oat cakes everyone talks about on here the wholemeal savoury pancake or like the scottish
version which is like a  cracker or biscuit for cheese etc. I do buy from asda or tesco their Oat cakes like pancakes to grill and use with bacon or cheese or a desert with honey or syrup, fruit and cream . Just asking  ???

I fear that in respect of the ones 'coming soon' to Llandudno, we may never know...  :(


How very sad i fear we missed a culinary treat, can we blame this one on the Council  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 13, 2013, 07:35:47 am
Could someone enlighten me are the staffordshire oat cakes everyone talks about on here the wholemeal savoury pancake or like the scottish
version which is like a  cracker or biscuit for cheese etc. I do buy from asda or tesco their Oat cakes like pancakes to grill and use with bacon or cheese or a desert with honey or syrup, fruit and cream . Just asking  ???

Hi Linda,

Staffordshire Oatcakes are the rolled up kind not the biscuits. and are usually filled with bacon and cheese. Here is a link to a shop in Leek that makes them although Tosh is right, I think they should really come from Stoke-on-Trent to be totally authentic.
http://totally-locally.co.uk/leek/hidden-gems/leek-oatcake-shop/ (http://totally-locally.co.uk/leek/hidden-gems/leek-oatcake-shop/)

Come on Llandudno Oatcake shop......we are giving you plenty of publicity on here. Hopefully there will be a real demand when you open if only out of curiosity!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 13, 2013, 09:38:27 am
Someone told my OH this morning that she doesn't know how to cook them ! I can believe this as someone I know was asked by her how to cut men's hair when she had the barbers shop.

 :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on September 13, 2013, 09:50:02 am
Could someone enlighten me are the staffordshire oat cakes everyone talks about on here the wholemeal savoury pancake or like the scottish
version which is like a  cracker or biscuit for cheese etc. I do buy from asda or tesco their Oat cakes like pancakes to grill and use with bacon or cheese or a desert with honey or syrup, fruit and cream . Just asking  ???

Hi Linda,

Staffordshire Oatcakes are the rolled up kind not the biscuits. and are usually filled with bacon and cheese. Here is a link to a shop in Leek that makes them although Tosh is right, I think they should really come from Stoke-on-Trent to be totally authentic.
http://totally-locally.co.uk/leek/hidden-gems/leek-oatcake-shop/ (http://totally-locally.co.uk/leek/hidden-gems/leek-oatcake-shop/)

Come on Llandudno Oatcake shop......we are giving you plenty of publicity on here. Hopefully there will be a real demand when you open if only out of curiosity!

Thanks for the conformation Hollins the ones in the photo at the shop in Leek look so good, much better than the slighty rubbery supermarket versions.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on September 13, 2013, 10:10:00 am
Someone told my OH this morning that she doesn't know how to cook them ! I can believe this as someone I know was asked by her how to cut men's hair when she had the barbers shop.

 :o

Oh my! thats a little scary and hairy! hope the shop manages to open though
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 13, 2013, 10:56:50 am
Here's the Hairy Bikers recipe for Staffordshire Oatcakes - http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/staffordshireoatcake_92371 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/staffordshireoatcake_92371)

It gives the preparation time as "over 2 hours" and cooking time as "30 mins to 1 hour" so you'd need to get up earlier in the morning to be open in time for breakfast  :o.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on September 16, 2013, 09:09:29 pm
Well, all is well with the world, Characters is back as No1 in Llandudno on tripadvisor.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2013, 08:39:44 am
The Staffordshire Oatcake shop seems to be getting rearranged again. Still no sign of opening though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 17, 2013, 11:16:10 am
Think you might have been right Dave--- there are more paint cans around  !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 17, 2013, 11:27:23 am
Well, all is well with the world, Characters is back as No1 in Llandudno on tripadvisor.

And Les & Rita's Fish Bar is No 1 in Rhyl  ;D.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2013, 12:31:32 pm
I hear that the Hotel Inspector, Alex Polizzi, will be in Llandudno filming this week and will be dining at Momma Rosas in Craig Y Don.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 17, 2013, 03:11:20 pm
If Alex Polizzi is filming an episode of The Hotel Inspector in Llandudno this week then at least we've got nice weather which will reflect well on the town when the show gets aired  :'(.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2013, 05:23:19 pm
I don't think she does that programme any more but is doing something for the BBC called 'The Fixer'.

"Alex Polizzi sets out to wage a one woman campaign to save Britain's family businesses."

Perhaps she's been called in to sort out the Staffordshire Oatcake shop?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2013, 06:24:45 pm
Well, all is well with the world, Characters is back as No1 in Llandudno on tripadvisor.

And Les & Rita's Fish Bar is No 1 in Rhyl  ;D.

That's like being the best footballer.......... in Scotland,
Or the best politician,........ in Syria.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2013, 06:36:21 pm
Les & Rita's Fish Bar is very good indeed.  $good$

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g616283-d3488382-Reviews-Les_Rita_s_Fish_Bar-Rhyl_Denbighshire_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g616283-d3488382-Reviews-Les_Rita_s_Fish_Bar-Rhyl_Denbighshire_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 17, 2013, 06:39:41 pm
I don't think she does that programme any more but is doing something for the BBC called 'The Fixer'.

It seems she's doing a new series of The Hotel Inspector - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/ukhotels/10253026/Alex-Polizzi-on-Blackpool-babies-and-bugbears.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/ukhotels/10253026/Alex-Polizzi-on-Blackpool-babies-and-bugbears.html)

The most surprising thing about that article is that until last month she'd never been to Liverpool. I'd have assumed she'd have been everywhere in the course of her business. 

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on September 17, 2013, 10:17:53 pm
A film crew were filming for the Hotel Inspector show, at the Alexandra Hotel a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2013, 11:39:34 pm
A film crew were filming for the Hotel Inspector show, at the Alexandra Hotel a couple of weeks ago.

It does not bear close inspection.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 18, 2013, 07:37:38 am
I've just had a glance at the reviews of the Alexandra on TripAdvisor.  They're a bit mixed, not all bad, but what is entertaining is reading the owners responses.  Clearly not someone who takes criticism too kindly  :o.  This has all the makings of an entertaining episode of the Hotel Inspector.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d1656712-Reviews-The_Alexandra_Hotel-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g190724-d1656712-Reviews-The_Alexandra_Hotel-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 18, 2013, 08:03:06 am
On the subject of the Alex, has anyone else noticed the building has been absolutely covered in scaffolding for several months but there never seems to be anyone ever working on it?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2013, 08:05:08 am
Wonderful!  And I thought Basil Fawlty was only a fictional character.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2013, 08:22:49 am
I get the impression that the Owner thinks he is building some kind of character through his responses, that he believes will actually encourage more people to visit his hotel. A bit like 'The Hotel' documentary, set at the Grosvenor in Torquay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 18, 2013, 08:28:46 am
Wonderful!  And I thought Basil Fawlty was only a fictional character.

My thoughts too! Although I must confess I was much the same when we had a small B&B near Porthmadog! Most people were great, biggest pains in the butt were the French, never stopped moaning! Germans on the other hand were great! We only did it for about a year, I could stand no more after that!  :rage:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2013, 08:32:50 am
Possibly.  And why not?  He could develop a cult following :-)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on September 18, 2013, 08:35:04 am
On the subject of the Alex, has anyone else noticed the building has been absolutely covered in scaffolding for several months but there never seems to be anyone ever working on it?

I gather that Thos Jones (Llandudno) Ltd will be starting the work towards the end of this month.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 18, 2013, 08:55:42 am
Thanks, Bellringer.

The situation reminds me of someone making the mistake of hiring another car while then waiting three months for the third party’s insurance company to authorise repairs to one’s own motor car.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 18, 2013, 09:25:39 am
On the subject of the Alex, has anyone else noticed the building has been absolutely covered in scaffolding for several months but there never seems to be anyone ever working on it?

This was covered by the owner in one of his TA comments - "then complaining about no one on the scaffolding what exactly was she expecting builders bottoms."  Clearly there's been a delay with the delivery of builder's bottoms hence the need to keep the scaffolding up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2013, 09:30:55 am
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 18, 2013, 08:30:52 pm
TripAdvisor can be very useful if used properly. My main criticism with it is that it turns a lot of the people who use it into very spiteful overly critical amateur Hotel Inspectors, who are allowed to publish their reviews anonymously.

If you want to publish something vile and untrue about somewhere you've stayed, you should be made to put your contact details with that review. We had one on TA from someone who claimed they had an unsatisfactory experience, whilst staying with us in mid October 2010. Trouble was they didn't publish it on TA until May 2011.

Unfortunately for them we closed at the end of September that year as I had to go into Hospital for an op on the 2nd October and when I came out wasn't able to work again for 6 weeks.

That false review stayed on our site for the next 10 weeks until TA acknowledged it was a fake review but did nothing to revoke the 15 place drop in position we suffered as a result.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2013, 10:38:25 am
Had the steakburger (with extra bacon and cheese  ;D ) at Cafe 121 yesterday, was great.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2013, 10:54:40 am
We are now of the target list for Domino pizza/s,shame.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 19, 2013, 11:12:13 am
Mmmmm Domino's..... the New York Steak Pizza is the best I have had in my life..... bring it on!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2013, 12:17:56 pm
We are now of the target list for Domino pizza/s,shame.
I can still see 'Colwyn Bay (Llandudno)' on my list?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 19, 2013, 03:10:58 pm
Some guests had a bad experience in Beaumaris yesterday at the Castle bakery, a semi raw sausage roll and some dirty cutlery.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 20, 2013, 08:27:15 pm
We are now of the target list for Domino pizza/s,shame.
I can still see 'Colwyn Bay (Llandudno)' on my list?

Perhaps they're looking at the Afon Conwy given the address shown on their website - http://www.brewersfayre.co.uk/brewersfayre/our-pubs/north-wales/afon-conwy.html (http://www.brewersfayre.co.uk/brewersfayre/our-pubs/north-wales/afon-conwy.html)  ;).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2013, 12:19:56 am
Just heard via a taxi driver Broadway has been sold or leased to0 a brewery and should be up and running by xmas,i hope i heard right x.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2013, 09:34:23 am
Was that kiss for one of us Wrex?  :-*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 03, 2013, 12:48:19 pm
Has any one put in an offer for the Parade,you have til the 11 oct to do so,it would make a good Albion style pub,nice little side line for Fester or DaveR.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 01:20:10 pm
Has any one put in an offer for the Parade,you have til the 11 oct to do so,it would make a good Albion style pub,nice little side line for Fester or DaveR.
I've always thought it would be a far better Restaurant than a Pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 03, 2013, 02:29:42 pm
Which one is a 133a Upper Mostyn st,applying for extension too opening hours till 2am sun-thurs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2013, 05:03:04 pm
Has any one put in an offer for the Parade,you have til the 11 oct to do so,it would make a good Albion style pub,nice little side line for Fester or DaveR.

Fester can't afford it Wrex,  I've blown all my funds on a load of wallpaper...  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 05:21:01 pm
Which one is a 133a Upper Mostyn st,applying for extension too opening hours till 2am sun-thurs.
Zaks Kebabs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 11:23:24 am
Romour that Sam from the Escape is looking at taking on the back bar of the Wash as a music venue,it would be nice as the actual chinese restaurant is very slow incoming.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2013, 04:26:10 pm
Llandudno could certainly do with a decent live music venue that's just not the corner of a pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2013, 04:26:50 pm
I see Fortes have introduced Wi-Fi at long last. Unfortunately, you have to pay for it so I doubt there will be many takers.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 04, 2013, 04:43:06 pm
Llandudno could certainly do with a decent live music venue that's just not the corner of a pub.

They had the whole of the Parade downstairs - lasted about 4 and a half minutes  :-[
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2013, 11:23:51 pm
Well, we are into October, and the town is extremely quiet most days.

Sadly, it seems that the two 'COMING SOON' offers, comprising of Dr Jones' food offer,  and the Oatcake Shop never did come at all!

However, The Orme Fish and Chips did get off the ground this year,  it is excellent and deserves to succeed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on October 08, 2013, 07:17:40 pm
I had a chat with the owner of Mr B's in Upper Mostyn Street this afternoon and he optimistically thinks he will be ready to open in about 10days time. I just hope he doesn’t have Staffordshire Oatcakes on his new menu.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2013, 07:19:24 pm
I had a chat with the owner of Mr B's in Upper Mostyn Street this afternoon and he optimistically thinks he will be ready to open in about 10days time. I just hope he doesn’t have Staffordshire Oatcakes on his new menu.
Somewhere new to try is always welcome.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on October 08, 2013, 08:47:20 pm
   Wi-Fi in Fortes? Let be fair. It took them twenty years to replace a mock "knickerbocker glory"  from their window.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 08, 2013, 08:53:47 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2013, 08:21:16 am
The new Chinese Restaurant in Craig Y Don is getting good reviews:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d4953500-Reviews-Top_s_Restaurant-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d4953500-Reviews-Top_s_Restaurant-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 11, 2013, 08:14:55 pm
Had a drink in the Gresh last nite,it was nice to see a few in there on a thursday and not all eating.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 12, 2013, 09:27:49 am
Of to the Queen Vic tonght for a meal,not been to the restaurant before,has anybody been recently.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 12, 2013, 09:48:28 am
Yes. - upstairs.

You shouldn't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 12, 2013, 10:05:41 am
Cheers Bri
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 13, 2013, 11:19:23 pm
I hope it was good Wrex, I've never had a bad meal there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 14, 2013, 07:25:21 am
Very nice Fester,pate,lamb shank and too many beers meaning yesterday was a lazy day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 14, 2013, 09:33:22 am
Very nice Fester,pate,lamb shank and too many beers meaning yesterday was a lazy day.

Good lad!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 18, 2013, 05:27:37 pm
Ruomour that the ship will re-open in the new year by a Chester firm or landlord.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on October 18, 2013, 06:05:58 pm
I know some people that looked at the ship in rhos.  It is an enterprise inn and the terms appeared to make trading at a profit challenging to say the least!  Having said that, it is a good location!  It would be great to have some where good for food as well as a pint, and another less empty building. Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 18, 2013, 09:20:56 pm
I know a couple of local lads who seemed set to re-open The Ship, it must have fallen through.  :( :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 18, 2013, 09:22:56 pm
Was it scuppered or just an ill wind?    $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tosh on October 19, 2013, 10:26:19 am
Sank without trace? ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 19, 2013, 07:46:52 pm
Blown out of the water??    Hit the rocks? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on October 20, 2013, 08:48:28 pm
Redevelopment could get stuck in the Doldrums  $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on October 20, 2013, 09:00:50 pm
     Are you talking about the Ship in Rhos. If so, my mind boggles.

    I know times are mega hard in the pub trade, but the Ship Rhos was a prime pub business wise, you just couldnt fail. If that has closed well ----- shades of one foot in the grave ---- I don't beeliieeeve it.

   I didn't believe it with the Ship Old Colwyn.   But, that has well and truly gone and is never likely to be a pub again.  Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on October 20, 2013, 09:03:34 pm
All comes down to excessive Business Rates and excessive Rent, Mike.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on October 21, 2013, 07:02:21 pm
That's enough foreign food! It had to be fish and chips today. They were much enjoyed at the Galleon Restaurant in Rhos on Sea.
Lovely white fish cooked fresh and very crisp batter.
 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 22, 2013, 08:54:23 am
They look good Hollins!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2013, 09:03:37 am
The Conwy branch of the Galleon is my favourite chippy, always fantastic.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on October 22, 2013, 09:05:31 am
That's enough foreign food! It had to be fish and chips today.

Deep fried fish was introduced to the UK by Jewish refugees from Portugal and Spain in the 17th Century.  Chips originated in either Belgium or France.  Mushy peas might be British though  ;).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2013, 09:32:53 am
I understand that the new Ice Cream Parlour planned for Upper Mostyn Street will be known as 'The Looking Glass'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 22, 2013, 09:42:16 am
  Mushy peas might be British though  ;).

It took the Lancastrians many years to cultivate the mushy pea!   How to get them out of the pods without squashing them was the problem = so the mushy pea came into existence!   ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 22, 2013, 01:31:09 pm
I understand that the new Ice Cream Parlour planned for Upper Mostyn Street will be known as 'The Looking Glass'.

Ah Hem ! Bet that causes more comment !!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on October 22, 2013, 06:29:39 pm
    You can hardly say Asda are backward with business ideas. So, when they close down completly their cafe for three weeks to modernise it, its fair to assume that it will be an improvement.
  I've been in it today. Ignoring any public health issues that might have been improved, because I for one am not qualified to comment.
  But, what do any of you who have been in think of it?
   I know what I think. But I'll be interested to read what you all think.   Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 22, 2013, 06:57:24 pm
If I see you in Tesco, I will know how you feel about ASDA!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 27, 2013, 10:16:47 am
Seen in Portugal recently.  Don't fancy a Hot-dog from here!  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2013, 09:50:16 am
Is the Staffordshire Oatcake Shop now open?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 30, 2013, 10:01:53 am
Yesterday, it looked as if it maybe although I did not notice any special opening offers.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 30, 2013, 10:18:03 am
Is the Staffordshire Oatcake Shop now open?

Today-- we were told yesterday p.m We were given a corner of oatcake each to taste....................... She is selling soup as well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2013, 10:21:49 am
Opened just in time for that Winter rush then....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 30, 2013, 11:11:43 am
 $good$   If it happens !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on October 30, 2013, 11:16:34 am
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Opened just in time for that Winter rush then....

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 30, 2013, 03:24:06 pm
Lets hope she manages too make it work,you can;t knock her for trying and she puts some hours in and coats of paint on,so good luck to the lass.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2013, 03:35:29 pm
The owner does more painting than you do, Wrex!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 30, 2013, 08:12:34 pm
 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 01, 2013, 03:27:31 pm
I've just found this job advertised on reed.com -

"We are looking for an experienced General Manager to open a new Branded Restaurant and Sports Bar in North Wales near Colwyn Bay.

This exciting American concept will be an instant hit so will require a Manager that has experience working with volume in a High Street Restaurant, Sports Bar or Bar and Grill. Experience opening a new unit would be preferable
."

Sounds intriguing.

(Link here in case anyone wants to apply - http://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/general-manager/23708860#/jobs/general-manager-in-colwyn-bay (http://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/general-manager/23708860#/jobs/general-manager-in-colwyn-bay)).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 05, 2013, 10:56:41 am
The Cambridge Restaurant on Mostyn St has been getting lots of good reviews lately:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d753008-Reviews-Cambridge_Mostyn-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d753008-Reviews-Cambridge_Mostyn-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 05, 2013, 04:56:25 pm
The Castle View, Deganwy - bitter £3.75 a pint. No wonder it was empty.......
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 05, 2013, 05:16:20 pm
The Castle View, Deganwy - bitter £3.75 a pint. No wonder it was empty.......

Was OK when it was Maggie Murphey's.  Unfortunately things change!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 05, 2013, 06:56:41 pm
Not only was the ale remarkably expensive, even NASA would not be able to find an atmosphere in there. It's one of those pubs that cannot work out what it wants to be, a pub or a restaurant, and the Castle  doesn't work on either count. 

A good honest pub would make an absolute mint in that location. The Castle View is run by the same people as the Gladstone, and that's up and down like a fiddlers elbow, but mainly down.

How about recommending good pubs?

My top two would be the Red Lion in Old Colwyn and the Albion in Conwy. Mind you, we are talking proper pubs here, not eateries.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 05, 2013, 07:12:05 pm
I believe the Gladstone is up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 05, 2013, 07:38:19 pm
I like the Snowdon,good atmosphere and Wrexham lager
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on November 05, 2013, 07:43:11 pm
I think The Albion and The Snowdon are the two best pubs around; maybe its because I like a decently kept real ale and the fact that neither serve hot food so are full of drinkers and both are 'old fashioned' in a way which I rather quite like  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 05, 2013, 11:51:28 pm
Plus, The Snowdon has a great little Darts room in the back.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: 1_rob_1 on November 06, 2013, 12:06:23 pm
I agree, The Snowdon is one of the best traditional pubs in LLandudno, & it does have a good atmosphere.
When I stay in the town, I always visit it.  Z**

Ive never been to the Albion, so I cant comment on it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 06, 2013, 03:42:29 pm
Plus, The Snowdon has a great little Darts room in the back.

What's great about it? Serious question
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2013, 04:08:32 pm
Nice landlord,the place itself is nice enought and always a few in there and of course the Wxm lager.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 06, 2013, 04:23:34 pm
Sorry Wrex just meant specifically the darts room in the back.

The Snowdon in general is ok, I've only been in less than a handful of times since 'the refurb'
I used to like it a lot better 10 years ago when the place had a jukebox, pool tables and some characters in it.
Last time I went was a Saturday night  thissummer, around 7pm and we were the only ones in there.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 06, 2013, 04:45:18 pm
Plus, The Snowdon has a great little Darts room in the back.

What's great about it? Serious question

A nice throw, no interruptions, a great practice environment...... you need to use it!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 06, 2013, 04:58:04 pm
Plus, The Snowdon has a great little Darts room in the back.

What's great about it? Serious question

A nice throw, no interruptions, a great practice environment...... you need to use it!  :laugh: :laugh:

Thought the whole point of pubs was the social element - not some little cavern in the back where you can play alone.
I'd rather stat at home.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2013, 05:14:31 pm
I thought a Pub was to cater for all, not just drinkers, darts players, pool or whatever.  Mind you, I only ever visit a Pub to eat, which in Llandudno has so far been limited to The Albert and The Kings Head!   I can't see the sense in standing at a bar swigging down 6 or more pints of flavoured water!

Yes Wrex, before you say it, I would ban all pubs!   :D :D :D  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 06, 2013, 06:29:15 pm
I thought a Pub was to cater for all, not just drinkers, darts players, pool or whatever.  Mind you, I only ever visit a Pub to eat, which in Llandudno has so far been limited to The Albert and The Kings Head!   I can't see the sense in standing at a bar swigging down 6 or more pints of flavoured water!

Yes Wrex, before you say it, I would ban all pubs!   :D :D :D  L0L

You must be kidding! In Llandudno it isn't hard to find a pub that does food, there are very few that don't, I can only think of the Snowden off the top of my head that doesn't do any
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2013, 07:04:16 pm
If you read my comment properly, what I am saying is that they are the only ones I have been to!  I haven't tried any others, and as yet have no intention of doing so.

I am never amazed how quick one is criticised on this forum, and by that I mean others as well as myself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 06, 2013, 07:59:01 pm
For every action. there is an equal and opposite........ CRITICISM!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2013, 08:30:18 pm
A body will continue to remain in a criticising state until compelled by an outside force to change that state.   :D

Newton!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 07, 2013, 07:01:23 am
Yorkie i recommend the Cottage loaf ,it has been done up and will suprise you.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2013, 08:56:55 am
Yorkie i recommend the Cottage loaf ,it has been done up and will suprise you.

Thank you, Wrex, I just hope the surprise will be a pleasant one!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 07, 2013, 11:46:51 am
I can only pray.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2013, 05:00:59 pm
I walked past the old Cadwaladars shop today and noticed that it has now been fitted out as a cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 11, 2013, 06:21:31 pm
We tried the Cafe 121 for a change today. This was partly because it looked quite attractive with the big windows and the nice decor but also because we couldn't find the oatcake shop. I could have sworn that the forum had told me it was on Upper Mostyn street. Is it?
I only had a hot chocolate but Mr Hollins had the fish chips and peas which came very well presented. For him the fish was a bit small but for me it would have been perfect. He said the chips and the peas were particularly good.
I would have preferred it if the orders were taken at the table rather than at the counter and the design of the interior whilst attractive would have been nicer with fresh plants on the tables rather than the plastic ones.
Lovely place to sit and watch the world go by from the huge windows. Saw the council workmen busy planting masses of wallflowers on the roundabout.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2013, 07:04:36 pm
The point about table service is a good one, they seem to have more than enough staff to be able to handle it.

It also seems to get very warm inside on a sunny day, even at this time of year, and there can be a lot of glare in the afternoon if you sit by the window. The large glass windows could perhaps do with some sort of blinds fitting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 11, 2013, 09:38:55 pm
Hollins,  in answer to your question, the Oatcake shop is indeed on Upper Mostyn Street.

It is on the opposite side to where you were in the 121,  it is between the Chess dress shop, and the door to the Conservative Club.   I've only seen it open once though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 11, 2013, 10:01:19 pm
Thanks Fester. Don't know how we missed it. We walked up and down both sides and I remember seeing the Chess shop.
Oh dear!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 12, 2013, 07:53:59 am
The Oatcake Shop hasn't got any signage outside so it's easy to miss, especially when it's closed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2013, 09:03:14 am
The Oatcake Shop hasn't got any signage outside so it's easy to miss, especially when it's closed.
Just the point I was going to make!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 12, 2013, 09:08:24 am
Thanks both. You have made me feel slightly less dozy!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2013, 09:40:25 am
She has been open, but the last I saw was that she had had an equipment failure. Haven't been past since.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 12, 2013, 10:00:15 am
She has been open, but the last I saw was that she had had an equipment failure. Haven't been past since.

Equipment failures happen as one gets older - fact of life!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2013, 03:59:46 pm
Yeah-- like this afternoon when we had 2 power cuts !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 12, 2013, 04:24:12 pm
Yeah-- like this afternoon when we had 2 power cuts !!

We missed lunch at Cafe Dewi due to it!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Rosy on November 14, 2013, 09:05:51 am
We tried the Cafe 121 for a change today ...
Lovely place to sit and watch the world go by from the huge windows. Saw the council workmen busy planting masses of wallflowers on the roundabout.

This looks like bliss! Even the newspapers the fish is on looks posh. More used to sitting outside on a wall as I eat my fish 'n chips but could definitely upgrade here! :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2013, 05:34:38 pm
The Baytree Hotel have had excellent restaurant facility since they opened after refurbishment and now they have a new adventurous chef who knows his stuff too. They showed me the proposed Xmas season menu today and it's not your bog standard fare. Worth popping in and taking a look because it's excellent value. The bar area is very smart and offers wonderful views across the bay and they serve coffee and cake during the day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Arobs on November 15, 2013, 08:23:17 pm
What's the name of the cafe in Llandudno in town centre, not on a corner and on the same side as M&S, Smiths, KFC . It's long and narrow when you get inside and has tables along both walls. They do a Shoppers Special fish n chips n it's lovely  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2013, 09:29:25 pm
There are quite a few on that side of the road, Fortes, The Coffee Centre, Barnacles, Pebbles are some of them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Arobs on November 15, 2013, 09:43:40 pm
Could be the Coffee Centre...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Sara on November 17, 2013, 05:27:50 pm
The Baytree Hotel have had excellent restaurant facility since they opened after refurbishment and now they have a new adventurous chef who knows his stuff too. They showed me the proposed Xmas season menu today and it's not your bog standard fare. Worth popping in and taking a look because it's excellent value. The bar area is very smart and offers wonderful views across the bay and they serve coffee and cake during the day.

Dave, I have passed your comments onto Claire, manager of the Baytree,. She was very pleased you liked everything.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 18, 2013, 09:16:59 am
Two guests went to the Mostyn Cambridge last night and were very impressed-- especially by the Spanish Guitarist !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 18, 2013, 09:50:36 am
It is wonderful this morning to read so many positive statements about our cafes and restaurants.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2013, 07:38:48 pm
Mr. B's Bistro on Upper Mostyn St is ready for opening. Looks promising.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 21, 2013, 01:34:40 pm
The Amber Coffee Shop in Colwyn Bay has a sign in the window advertising "Closing down sale - everything must go".  As it's been closed for about a year I'm assuming this means they're flogging off the fixtures and fittings.  From what I remember it used to quite nice inside so this might be an opportunity for anyone planning to open or revamp a cafe/coffee shop/Staffordshire Oakcake shop in the near future.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 21, 2013, 02:52:04 pm
She has been open, but the last I saw was that she had had an equipment failure. Haven't been past since.

Latest:- Stew and a roll £1.99.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 21, 2013, 04:01:30 pm
As long as Stewart doesn't mind that's good value...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 21, 2013, 05:48:45 pm
 L0L  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 21, 2013, 07:51:03 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 22, 2013, 11:48:08 am
How is Mr B;s,any feed back
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 22, 2013, 11:52:05 pm
Had a good nite in the Snowdon tonight,nice atmosphere and very busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 23, 2013, 08:48:26 am
Pop into Café Nero and you might be surprised to meet Lord Mostyn...


"Lord Mostyn speaks Japanese, supports Arsenal and is the 13th richest person aged under 30 in the UK – just behind Harry Potter superstar Daniel Radcliffe.

But many people don’t believe he’s a baron.

“They kind of think it’s a joke,” shrugs this charming 28-year-old, who with his family is worth £48m, according to The Times rich list. (The apprentice wizard of Hogwarts is worth £60m).

But Greg Mostyn isn’t the type to count his money in his baronial pile of Mostyn Hall near Holywell as he takes his responsibilities, primarily as a landowner in Llandudno and across the region, very seriously.

He says: “I’m learning accountancy, finance, law, geography, property, real estate – that’s very important. Generally meeting my employees, tenants, people in the town – seeing how they’re doing and their opinions.”

He modestly accepts the £48m figure is true but seems unfazed by such illustrious company in the richlist.

 He says: “I think what Daniel Radcliffe has done is fantastic. Good luck to him. He’s a great performer.

 “For me, though, however everyone else is doing I just focus on my business. I’ve got everyone to thank at the office and in the community for helping my estate.

 “Things like that in the richlist it’s a nice thing I guess but I don’t really pay too much attention to it because the history behind the estate matters more. It’s an honour and a duty for me to do my bit for the town. That’s the most important thing.” He’s referring to how The Mostyns developed the town.

 “Llandudno has been around for centuries but we had a part to play in developing it 150 years ago, the 2nd baron and all that.”

We meet in an upstairs room at Café Nero in Mostyn Street, the street name is not a coincidence. As I walk in, he’s sitting at a corner table looking at his phone and sipping an espresso. A smart but unassuming gent."

Full story:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/lord-mostyn-britains-13th-richest-6333851 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/lord-mostyn-britains-13th-richest-6333851)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2013, 07:55:36 pm
Mrs Fester met him on the train from Chester a couple of weeks ago.
She didn't know who he was, and just thought he was a pleasant and unassuming young chap, who was looking forward to going for a game of pool that very afternoon.  They chatted for quite a while.

He even had his cue with him, and it was another passenger that was in the conversation who mentioned to my wife that their travelling companion was indeed Lord Mostyn.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2013, 07:58:16 pm
Why all the fuss about someone who is where they are purely because of an accident of birth?  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 08:10:31 am
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Why all the fuss about someone who is where they are purely because of an accident of birth?

Because of Mostyn Estates' influence in the area, I imagine.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 25, 2013, 09:58:08 am
Why all the fuss about someone who is where they are purely because of an accident of birth?  &shake&

It had to happen one day, I'm with Dave  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2013, 10:08:08 am
 First time for everything, mate. :laugh:  $good$

I don't believe that somebody is special because of a title (which in itself is a ridiculous concept) or who their parents are. A meritocracy is far preferable.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2013, 11:15:24 am
That's you off the Queen's New Year Honours list!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 12:07:25 pm
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I don't believe that somebody is special because of a title (which in itself is a ridiculous concept) or who their parents are. A meritocracy is far preferable.

Hmmm...like Politics, perhaps? But glad to hear you're all for moving us to communism, the central stanchion of which is its pure meritocratic structure...

 WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2013, 01:06:45 pm
No organisation comprised of humans can surely ever have the pure meritocratic structure you mention. The less desirable human qualities, e.g. greed, envy etc will always get in the way, rendering communism as flawed in practice as any other system.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on November 25, 2013, 01:51:08 pm
I recall seeing the historian David Starkey once denouncing his fellow panellists on Question Time as only being in their positions because of their parents.  None of them was an hereditary peer but they included people like David Dimbleby (son of Richard and brother of Jonathan). Interestingly, Starkey stood out from the others because he was gay, a Tory, from a one-parent family and grew up on a northern council estate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 25, 2013, 02:44:32 pm
No organisation comprised of humans can surely ever have the pure meritocratic structure you mention. The less desirable human qualities, e.g. greed, envy etc will always get in the way, rendering communism as flawed in practice as any other system.

"All animals are equal but some are more equal than others"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 03:02:27 pm
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No organisation comprised of humans can surely ever have the pure meritocratic structure you mention.

Sadly, no.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 28, 2013, 09:36:20 am
From today all food outlets in Wales are legally obliged to prominently display their food hygiene ratings.  That won't be good news for the Elsinore Hotel, Fish & Chips (the one in Chapel Street), Jade Garden in the Junction, Cadwgan Bakery in Old Colwyn and Chrissie's Kitchen in Conwy which are all currently listed as 0 out of 5 on the "scores on the doors" website  :-[.

There's also quite a few well known names still one scoring one or two, including the Quay Hotel. 

http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/ (http://www.scoresonthedoors.org.uk/)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 28, 2013, 10:00:07 am
How can they be allowed to trade if they have scored 0 out of 5?  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on November 28, 2013, 10:09:10 am
I believe if you score 0 you get a follow up visit shortly after and if score 0 second time around you get closed down.

But I suppose the point of this new law if that anyone who does score a 0 will either have to buck up their ideas or they'll close down anyway because nobody will eat there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2013, 06:38:04 pm
The old Cadwaladars cafe has reopened as an Illy Coffee Shop:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 02, 2013, 07:14:42 pm
Another coffee shop! How many is that now?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 02, 2013, 08:31:36 pm
The old Cadwaladars cafe has reopened as an Illy Coffee Shop:

Hooray!     :D   I do like my Illy!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 04, 2013, 07:15:13 am
When is Mr B;s opening,anyone know.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 09, 2013, 08:40:01 am
Had the Breakfast in Cafe 121 the other day, it was good...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on December 14, 2013, 10:11:56 am
When is Mr B;s opening,anyone know.

On Friday 18th December. Told us they have opening offers - an envelope on the table with a discount voucher from 10% off to a free meal. The menu looks good, hope the food lives up to it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 15, 2013, 04:48:37 pm
A lot of work going on at The Ship, Rhos on Sea.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 16, 2013, 08:37:03 am
Picked up a takeaway coffee yesterday from Holmes Place-- the nearest, as we were at the Santa Run.--Try it DaveR-- you'll be running down the prom screaming. Ghastly stuff, neither of us could drink it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2013, 08:57:19 am
Picked up a takeaway coffee yesterday from Holmes Place-- the nearest, as we were at the Santa Run.--Try it DaveR-- you'll be running down the prom screaming. Ghastly stuff, neither of us could drink it.
It's one cafe I've never been into, and after your comments, I doubt I will bother!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 16, 2013, 10:08:07 am
No don't-- it looked clean, but there was a very unpleasant smell of stale cooking. My OH says that I have a sensitive nose, but it curled up ! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 16, 2013, 12:03:05 pm
Well ive booked for Mr Bs on friday ,so unless someone beats me i will let you know my thoughts onit.As for Holmes place,its just one of these places that makes a quick buck out of our tourist trade,but we are all aloud to do that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on December 16, 2013, 04:37:56 pm
Well ive booked for Mr Bs on friday ,so unless someone beats me i will let you know my thoughts onit.As for Holmes place,its just one of these places that makes a quick buck out of our tourist trade,but we are all aloud to do that.


Has he put the full menu up yet - not been past today.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on December 18, 2013, 08:46:29 am
The former Rooms & Blooms shop in Colwyn Bay has new signage and is now called "The Green Room Jazz Cafe".  Nice  8).

Also the former Judge & Jury in Station Road is now "Porter's Coffee Shop & Bistro".  I'm not sure if it's actually yet but there were signs of activity in there the other day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2013, 09:24:34 am
The former Rooms & Blooms shop in Colwyn Bay has new signage and is now called "The Green Room Jazz Cafe".  Nice  8).

Also the former Judge & Jury in Station Road is now "Porter's Coffee Shop & Bistro".  I'm not sure if it's actually yet but there were signs of activity in there the other day.
Positive news.  $good$

I assume Porter's is named after John Porter, one of the founders of Colwyn Bay - seen on the right in this photo outside the building:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on December 18, 2013, 10:05:11 pm
Well ive booked for Mr Bs on friday ,so unless someone beats me i will let you know my thoughts onit.As for Holmes place,its just one of these places that makes a quick buck out of our tourist trade,but we are all aloud to do that.


Has he put the full menu up yet - not been past today.


Went for a walk round Town tonight intending to look at the Menu for Mr B's and were invited inside for a free meal but as we had eaten we declined but had the free drinks offered.  Had a look at the menu and it is about £13  for mains for Dinner.
We have booked for 7pm on Friday  - if your are in there -  I have a cast on my arm- I dare you to  come over and try and scribble on it  - I will  :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on December 19, 2013, 04:16:14 pm
A lot of work going on at The Ship, Rhos on Sea.

I've just read your post M E on the Ship at Rhos. Word is It's going to be a "Hickory's Smokehouse" like the one on the River Dee at Chester. If its true it will be a great addition to good places to eat in the area. ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2013, 06:03:06 pm
I wonder if they will have many vegetarian options?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2013, 06:07:58 pm
Very little for vegetarians!  &shake&

http://hickorys.co.uk/chester/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/10/hickorys-menu-oct13.pdf (http://hickorys.co.uk/chester/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/10/hickorys-menu-oct13.pdf)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on December 19, 2013, 06:14:51 pm
Mr B's has got it's first TripAdvisor review.  Very positive it is too, far be it from me to suggest it was written by an owner or employee  :-X.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d5588483-r187985537-Mr_B_s-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#UR187985537 (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190724-d5588483-r187985537-Mr_B_s-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#UR187985537)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 19, 2013, 07:34:30 pm
Person submitting review has it seems only made 2 reviews ever.  Also unusual to get all ratings as five stars.  Must go and check it out and see if it as good as it is said!     :D

The reviewers other comment was regarding the Blue Moon Cafe in Chester, that also achieved five stars for everything.  Most suspicious!    :D
 Z**  Z**  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on December 19, 2013, 09:39:47 pm
TripAdvisor reviews don't appear instantly, in my experience they appear a day or so after you submit them.  It therefore sounds like the reviewer dined at Mr B's before it opened for business  :roll:.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 19, 2013, 10:02:26 pm
TripAdvisor reviews don't appear instantly, in my experience they appear a day or so after you submit them.  It therefore sounds like the reviewer dined at Mr B's before it opened for business  :roll:.

I have had mine published same day as submitted, although normally after a good few hours.  And time of submission is not shown.    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 20, 2013, 08:33:57 am
TA tend to publish more quickly dependent on the reviewer's past contributions. In the case of newish reviewers - such as this one - it would normally take a little longer - perhaps a day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on December 20, 2013, 09:36:15 am
Mine have never gone on the same day but in my case it could be that I try wherever possible to include a photograph. That way there can be no doubt that it is genuine.

The one in question is written like an advertisement, but who knows?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 20, 2013, 11:32:29 am
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The one in question is written like an advertisement, but who knows?

That was my feeling exactly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 20, 2013, 04:23:58 pm
Was going to stop by for a coffee this afternoon!  Place was empty so decided to give it a miss this time. 
 $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 20, 2013, 05:56:33 pm
We will have a true picture tomorrow after my visit tonite,very strange why the place took so long to open after it looked finished,any way wish me luck.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 20, 2013, 06:38:02 pm
We will have a true picture tomorrow after my visit tonite,very strange why the place took so long to open after it looked finished,any way wish me luck.

 ££$ Wrex!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on December 20, 2013, 07:47:16 pm
According to the Daily Post today is Black Friday so good luck to anyone venturing out tonight and I hope the queues at A&E aren't too long for you.  I'll be erring on the side of safety and sticking to the sofa with a bottle of cheap beer from Home Bargains and "Have I Got News For You".
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bigmurph on December 20, 2013, 09:28:00 pm
Had a really nice meal in the Albert this afternoon,the service was  slow but to be fair it was very busy couldn't fault the food though and they had some nice cask ales on.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 21, 2013, 01:46:21 am
According to the Daily Post today is Black Friday so good luck to anyone venturing out tonight and I hope the queues at A&E aren't too long for you.  I'll be erring on the side of safety and sticking to the sofa with a bottle of cheap beer from Home Bargains and "Have I Got News For You".

It is renowned for Good Grub in The Albert, Big Murph.  Glad you enjoyed it.

Black Friday???  More like Dead Friday........... we went out early with Dave R, and to be honest, even up 9pm, there were very few people about.   Conwy was RAMMED by 4pm though!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 21, 2013, 08:34:55 am
Very quiet on here in the early hours, which is unusual for Friday, but the weather was so foul that we had a job to stand up against the wind when we took the dog out at 11.15pm.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 21, 2013, 08:41:41 am
Apparently it becomes nastier still on Monday, after which it starts to turn colder.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 21, 2013, 08:42:51 am
Nice ! Anyone lend me some lead lined boots? ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 21, 2013, 08:50:50 am
What do i say,my fishcake starter was average,the ribeye steak was nice,friendly staff,owners where in and out all nite it was cold enought in there without them two going in and out,nice enought inside,we will return but nothing spectacular but that is only my opinion.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 21, 2013, 09:01:38 am
How many stars out of five?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 21, 2013, 10:58:32 am
3
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on December 21, 2013, 12:16:41 pm
Pubs in mostyn street packed last night with incident involving a drunken person wielding a knife in Cooneys and the 147. Several police officer dragged a person across the road and bungled them into a car. additional word is that a door security person was knocked out in cooneys.
Anyone got the goss
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 22, 2013, 04:09:41 pm
This afternoon, on the way back from a trip to Abergele, we stopped at Forte's in Rhos on Sea for a coffee.  We decided to partake of a mince pie each as it is the Festive Season, but a few minutes later regretted the decision.

The mince pie was very thin (top to bottom) with little more than a teaspoon of mixture in the small central cavity, and well dusted with icing sugar.  It tasted as most mince pies do, but nothing special.

Later when we got the bill we were met with the cost of £1.95 for each mince pie, what a rip off.  The mark up must be close to 1000%, so it is obviously a matter of cashing in on the gullible public as the price was not mentioned on the menu.

So for two average coffees and average mince pies we left £7.70 lighter in our pocket.
 >>>
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on December 22, 2013, 08:33:41 pm
Pubs in mostyn street packed last night with incident involving a drunken person wielding a knife in Cooneys and the 147. Several police officer dragged a person across the road and bungled them into a car. additional word is that a door security person was knocked out in cooneys.
Anyone got the goss

I was in Cooneys last night this either didn't happen or happened quite late, I was in there until 12.30 ish
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bigmurph on December 22, 2013, 09:29:52 pm
Some of the best mince pies u can buy r from costco  and my mother in laws aren't  bad, as for some 1 waving a knife about I hope they got a good slap and sent home, it's a violent place llandudno I know I have worked there for the last 11 months  and 12 days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on December 23, 2013, 07:45:41 am
Mr B's now has three TripAdvisor reviews, all five stars and all sounding suspiciously like adverts .  They also all appear as if they were written by the same person, unless of course three completely separate and unconnected individuals all decided to end their "reviews" with a plug for the breakfast (that none of them had tried  :roll:).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 23, 2013, 08:04:24 am
The three reviewers apart from Susan have only ever reviewed Llandudno establishments six times between them.  The Asia Rest got 5, Home Cooking got 5, Boutique got 5 and Mr B's got three 5's.
Only one of the people was a regular reviewer from Woking.   Others were Llandudno based.

Funny, I said Funny!     >>>
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 23, 2013, 08:27:14 am
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Mr B's now has three TripAdvisor reviews, all five stars and all sounding suspiciously like adverts

Reading all three carefully, I suspect that two of them might be the same person. Certain commonalities occur, such as a slightly insecure use of adjectives, coupled with some spelling errors but more importantly, the style is very similar and reeks of someone trying to imitate a critic's approach. Real people don't usually write things like "Comprehensive menu is reasonably priced and caters for all tastes," or "Horrendous weather outside but the warm décor, ambience and welcome soon left that behind."

However, perhaps three, very similarly endowed (in the literary sense), diners all chose to review the place at the same time, despite only having six other reviews between them.  Just a shame that the only person we all know and trust who's actually been there chose only to give it 3 stars...

Wrex: time to become a TA reviewer :-)))
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 23, 2013, 08:40:28 am
Will get on there later
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on December 23, 2013, 01:50:35 pm
owners where in and out all nite it was cold enought in there without them two going in and out.

Just goes to show, the owners took no notice, when we told them at the start of their conversion, that the major problem we had with Parrs, was every time the door opened all the heat went out and suggested they think about installing a double entry system. Oh well you can only lead a horse to water.... &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on December 23, 2013, 01:58:32 pm
I've had my first Staffordshire oat cakes. I was walking past on Saturday and saw Sue practicing her cooking technique, in anticipation of her grand opening in January, so call in for a quick chat. I left with a free bag of six oatcakes, which went down very nicely, when I got home. After all her trials and tribulations I can only wish her all the luck in the world for 2014.  ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 23, 2013, 07:52:11 pm
We were in Bangor the other day, and I saw that the Fat Cat bar has been renamed the Feral Cat,following the chain's bankruptcy!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on December 24, 2013, 03:46:09 pm
Pubs in mostyn street packed last night with incident involving a drunken person wielding a knife in Cooneys and the 147. Several police officer dragged a person across the road and bungled them into a car. additional word is that a door security person was knocked out in cooneys.
Anyone got the goss

Report on the incident in Daily Post:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-bouncers-wrestled-knife-attacker-ground-6445618 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-bouncers-wrestled-knife-attacker-ground-6445618)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2014, 05:56:24 pm
We were in Fortes Llandudno for lunch on Friday and I was amazed to see how busy it was. Every table was taken and there were people queuing in order to get a table - never seen that there before.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2014, 06:18:14 pm
I go there quite often for a coffee and have seen that situation a few times before.   I've never had a meal there and yet every meal I've seen come past me looks delicious.  Must give it a go sometime.
Did you have a meal there?

Today we were in town but opted for lunch at Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay and enjoyed the meal as usual.    $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2014, 08:00:09 pm
I've always found Fortes meals very good, and they do a great cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on January 19, 2014, 08:12:57 pm
This is a little bit outside the three towns catchment area but I thought I'd mention it because it's got me wondering.  There's a review of Stones Bistro in Caernarfon on TripAdvisor which is written in Portuguese (I think) by someone from Brazil.  On TA there's a translate "button" so I've translated the review and this is what it apparently says -

"Very old building, almost all stone, with typical, good food and great farta.Atendimento and compatible prices."

I'm sure it must have some other meaning but I can't even begin to think what it might be  :o.

n.b. Comments about baked beans and/or sprouts are far to obvious for a forum which has the repute this one has.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186431-d5794682-Reviews-Stones_Bistro-Caernarfon_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186431-d5794682-Reviews-Stones_Bistro-Caernarfon_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on January 20, 2014, 11:44:35 am
Correct translation is:

Very old building, almost all stone, with typical, good and abundant food. Great service and consistent prices.

Your translator was probably confused by the lack of a space between the full stop and the next word.
 :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2014, 01:58:27 pm
Whilst staying on Anglesey at the weekend, we called in at the Marram Grass Cafe near Newborough and what a treat it was. Food was cooked to perfection, please do visit it if in the area:

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g552029-d2349925-Reviews-The_Marram_Grass_Cafe-Newborough_Island_of_Anglesey_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g552029-d2349925-Reviews-The_Marram_Grass_Cafe-Newborough_Island_of_Anglesey_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 04, 2014, 03:15:01 pm
Just for the record, this is what the afternoon tea looks like at the Chester Grosvenor. I was spending a voucher that someone had given me for my birthday last year.
Everything was done well with good service but I was staggered when I saw how much it had cost.
There were plenty of other tables using gift vouchers. They have got onto a good thing with that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llewelyn on February 04, 2014, 11:14:47 pm
I know its expensive , but I love it, we all need to see how the other half live occasionally just pretend you live in England.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 05, 2014, 07:56:27 am
Yes, I love it too. I took my mum there for lunch with my first wage packet in 1976 and we have had lots of treats with some great memories there ever since.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on February 05, 2014, 10:36:09 am
We had a voucher a few years ago for an overnight stay and breakfast, but then found out the voucher was for the PULFORD GROSVENOR. Ha, ha.

It still turned out to be quite a pleasant experience though.

BTW anyone know anyone who might make a nice cake suitable for a significant wedding anniversary celebration.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on February 05, 2014, 12:48:37 pm
BTW anyone know anyone who might make a nice cake suitable for a significant wedding anniversary celebration.

A local lady' Sandra's Cakes' on Facebook makes lovely cakes to whatever design very reasonable i believe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bellringer on February 05, 2014, 04:09:15 pm
Quote
A local lady' Sandra's Cakes' on Facebook makes lovely cakes to whatever design very reasonable i believe.

Thanks Linda, I have sent her a message.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Linda on February 05, 2014, 08:59:08 pm
Quote
A local lady' Sandra's Cakes' on Facebook makes lovely cakes to whatever design very reasonable i believe.

Thanks Linda, I have sent her a message.
Your welcome Bellringer, iv known her for years but seen her lovely cake designs on facebook and everyone praises them so much. I make my own which are fine but not to her standard of decoration.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 06, 2014, 05:23:38 pm
Looks like the London public house has gone now,so our ressecion is well and truely not over,who next.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 06, 2014, 09:12:00 pm
Looks like the London public house has gone now,so our ressecion is well and truely not over,who next.

Yep, Wrex... I have just been past The London and I can confirm that it is all in darkness.

If anyone tells you that the economy is perking up, don't you believe a word of it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 07, 2014, 12:01:59 pm
Badly run rubbish pub anyway. A decent pub would stay open
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Big Alan on February 07, 2014, 07:41:24 pm
Edited by admin as unacceptable  
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on February 07, 2014, 09:36:09 pm
(deleted) who ran it as well.

An uncalled for observation and not one I think this Forum should support.

Such an opinion should be kept to yourself.

Indeed. Admin.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 07, 2014, 11:23:50 pm
Some people have a very shallow view of situations.

The leaseholders have taken the decision to close their own business themselves.  And this is why.

Brewery Rent: £50,000 in a (declining industry).

Overpriced wholesale costs of about £40,000.00 (Marston’s Tied Pub)

Non Domestic Rates payable £25,000.00.

Entertainment Costs £17,500.00 (essential weekend trade)

Door security Costs £17,500.00 (Local Council Restrictions.

Not to mention Labour Costs, Utility Costs, Repairs, Licencing, and the general operating expenses.

The day of the brewery tied Lease is coming to an end, and for pubs to survive in these ever changing times the brewery’s need to change their model.

Purchasing beer be it bottles or draught from a brewery such as Marston’s generally costs the operator about .60p a pint more than a free trader (pub with no supply tie)This cost has to be passed on to the customer in order to maintain the Gross Profits which results in lost custom. In essence a case of Bud purchased on at tied agreement will cost about £36.00 compared to 19.00 in the local cash and carry at the same time a 22 Gallon barrel of Fosters will cost £294.00 from a brewery on a tied pub compared to £180.00 from a local supplier free of supply tie.

Brewery’s such as Marston’s can be compared to the inland revenue in respect that they are only concerned about their own monitory policy and care very little about the customer or the pub landlord. Who will struggle to make a profit and a living to support his family?
I know the landlords of the London well and I also know that although the pub seems to be busy and it quite often is. The brewery take the lions share leaving very little in return for the financial commitment and working hours the landlords and their staff give.
I also know that the landlord and landlady have closed this business and taken some pretty serious legal steps in order to protect themselves from a money grabbing brewery. As a friend I wish them the best of luck for the future.
Meanwhile it will just a matter of a few weeks before the brewery find another mug to invest their hard earned, and work long hours for very little in return.
My guess is they will offer a much reduced rent with much reduced wholesale prices enabling them to retail at around £2.50 a pint. And if this proves to be the case it will leave just one question. Why didn’t the brewery offer the current owners that deal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 07, 2014, 11:43:24 pm
Simple,the whole buisness stinks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 08, 2014, 09:08:06 am
How true Wrex-- our daughter has just gone through the same thing with a brewery that wouldn't/didn't maintain the property. That isn't bringing in the facts stated in the last post-- just isn't viable.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on February 08, 2014, 09:58:21 am
   I can remember the time when the brewery and its tenants and managers were just like a big family. The brewery looked after its "houses" like children giving them advice, stopping them going off the straight and narrow, making sure they were doing O.K. financially. And this was EVERY brewery, large and small.
   What a difference today. Couldn't be a more complete turnaround.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 08, 2014, 10:54:47 am
The whole buisness is run by accountants,money,money,money,it has now come back to bite them and i hope they get their acts together before they are responsible for many job loses in pubs and brewerys.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 08, 2014, 12:06:37 pm
That's what being a Plc. means. You are answerable to your share holders first and as long as you continue to grow and keep the stock market happy then it's to hell with any altruistic intentions towards your employees, they just do not figure anywhere on the books except as an expense.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on February 08, 2014, 01:27:54 pm
It seems crazy. A closed pub will not make the brewery any money.
How they see 'forcing' a pub to close by making everything so expensive, seems like financial suicide for the mother company.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bigmurph on February 08, 2014, 09:35:13 pm
The pubco s are run like the mafia the more u make the more they want the only way  for pubs is for them to be free houses, at our rugby club we bought out our brewery loan and went to a free house the difference was huge we make good money over the bar we improved the facilities and have good good prices on the drinks, pubco s are not the way forward for local pubs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 08, 2014, 09:40:15 pm
Correct Murph,  it's modern day slavery.  A bit like the 'Learn to Drive' companies, BSM etc.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 15, 2014, 09:44:44 am
Nice meal again in Characters last night, i cooked my steak to perfection.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 15, 2014, 03:38:35 pm
Nice meal again in Characters last night, i cooked my steak to perfection.

You cooked it Wrex?  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 15, 2014, 03:55:16 pm
Hot stone
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 15, 2014, 05:06:45 pm
Nice meal again in Characters last night, i cooked my steak to perfection.

You cooked it Wrex?  :D

That's the drill in there ME,  it's the new thing (apparently)
There was such a 'cook your own meat on hot stones' at the hotel we went to recently,  loved it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 15, 2014, 05:45:09 pm
The world has gone bonkers! You pay to eat in a restaurant, yet have to cook it yourself? Do they let you wash up too!  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 15, 2014, 06:01:28 pm
Ha ha... no, of course you have to pay extra to be allowed to do that.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 15, 2014, 06:03:00 pm
I hear that Kwik Fit are considering a similar offer, you drive in... tell them what's wrong with the car, and they give you some spanners and a tire-iron!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 15, 2014, 07:07:19 pm
Erindoors has just cooked our meal in our own kitchen, will we need to pay this Characters place? :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 15, 2014, 07:11:41 pm
Ha ha... no, of course you have to pay extra to be allowed to do that.  :laugh:
.  _))* _))*

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bigmurph on February 15, 2014, 09:27:07 pm
At least u can't complain if the food is not very nice they r in the clear no complaints from the paying public that's the way to do it .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2014, 08:25:02 pm
Popped into Porters in Station Road, Colwyn Bay, recently. Was impressed by the effort that had gone to the restoration of one of Colwyn Bay's most interesting buildings. We only had drinks, but the menu looked ok. Certainly worth a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 16, 2014, 09:18:02 pm
Is it being run and managed by former alcoholics and drug users?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on February 17, 2014, 08:55:02 am
Popped into Porters in Station Road, Colwyn Bay, recently. Was impressed by the effort that had gone to the restoration of one of Colwyn Bay's most interesting buildings. We only had drinks, but the menu looked ok. Certainly worth a try.

Myself and Mrs FA went there a few weeks ago.  I had the bacon, pancakes and maple syrup stacker and she had the breakfast bap.  Both were very nice and not all that expensive and have no hesitation in recommending it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on February 17, 2014, 09:09:27 am
Is it being run and managed by former alcoholics and drug users?

I believe that part of the deal is that they provide work experience for ex-users but it's not being run and managed by them.  I don't know who the manager/manageress is but normally with these sort of social enterprises it will be someone with proper catering qualifications and experience.  The ex-users will most likely just do a bit of kitchen portering or pot washing to give them something to put on their CVs.  Based on my one visit there so far I'd say it was very professionally run and I didn't see a single waitress injecting heroin or swilling White Lightning during the half hour we were there ZXZ.

I know also that they were recently advertising two jobs under the "Jobs Growth Wales" scheme for which applicants had to be aged 16-24 and unemployed....but there was no requirement that they had to be ex-alcoholics.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 17, 2014, 12:10:20 pm
These days, it is fascinating to hear about such a wide range of projects seemingly being eligible for public funding.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on February 17, 2014, 01:50:16 pm
As Ghandi may or may not once have said "The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members."  We should therefore be proud that within our community we have places like Cafe CAIS and Porter's which offer some sort of opportunity, however limited it might be, for people who are desperate to get their lives back on track.  Personally I'd support that far more than wasting money on metallic skips at the beach or hanging coloured lightbulbs from lampposts for a couple of weeks each December. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 17, 2014, 04:04:40 pm
I agree with overweight Andrew. $good$

Nice to see public money heping people directly rather than the millions they piss up the wall in our national joke of a theatre/abondoned arena.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 19, 2014, 09:51:38 am
An American style diner wants to open a new restaurant and drive thru at the site of a derelict pub in Denbighshire – creating up to 40 jobs.

Harvey’s New York Bar and Grill in Llandudno has targeted an expansion to an eyesore site in Rhuddlan that has lain empty for nearly a decade.

They want to demolish the existing Marsh Warden pub. Off Station Road, and replace it with a modern restaurant.

An application has been lodged with Denbighshire council.

If successful, the company hopes to open the new restaurant by the end of summer.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 20, 2014, 03:54:14 pm
I read this article this morning so just in case the ban spreads to Wales here is a photo of my delicious sea bass lunch at the Black Lion, Llanfair TH.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/restaurants/10648419/Is-it-wrong-to-photograph-your-food-in-restaurants.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/restaurants/10648419/Is-it-wrong-to-photograph-your-food-in-restaurants.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2014, 04:47:50 pm
Who has bought the Parade then.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 20, 2014, 05:06:53 pm
someone also said they heard the london opening again
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 20, 2014, 06:44:48 pm
No London is still very much closed.
Apparently the way in which the owners closed the business in respect that they petitioned for an insolvency order on the business created a firewall between themselves and the brewery. Which means the brewery are unable to do much until they have bought all the fixtures and fittings to include equipment and machinery.
This means the brewery have to pay someone (probably the official receiver) some money before they can take possesion and find another mug to rip off.
So I guess that scuppers the variety of rumors of who thinks they think they know who is going to take up residency in upper mostyn street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 20, 2014, 07:02:26 pm
Someone has just told me the sun centre in rhyl has gone into liquidation
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 20, 2014, 10:27:28 pm
Someone has just told me the sun centre in rhyl has gone into liquidation

Last week, The Sun Centre in Rhyl was listed for closure by Denbighshire Council...... but the very next day it was announced that a survey was to be undertaken (costing even more money), to see if it was viable to re-open it.

I don't the final outcome is known yet,  but like Venue Cymru, the Sun Centre is a massive financial burden for tax payers.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 20, 2014, 11:00:53 pm
Yes that's right to my belief. I think what the person was trying to tell me was that the nova centre had gone and the meeting of creditors was to be held at the Sun Centre.
Think they got their story muckin fuddled.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/L-60782-1996204 (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/L-60782-1996204)

CLWYD LEISURE LIMITED

(Company Number 04192428 )

Other Names of Company: Prestatyn Nova Centre; North Wales Bowls Centre

Registered office: 22 Parc Fforddlas, Rhyl LL18 2QD

Principal trading address: Rhyl Sun Centre, East Parade, Rhyl LL18 3AQ


Nature of Business: Leisure Facilities Operator
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 20, 2014, 11:18:42 pm
I think that the Nova Centre (Prestatyn) and the Sun Centre, (Rhyl) were two of the three council leisure centres earmarked for closure.    Only the Sun Centre has thus far been given any glimmer of hope via this viability survey.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on February 21, 2014, 10:14:23 am
Last week, The Sun Centre in Rhyl was listed for closure by Denbighshire Council...... but the very next day it was announced that a survey was to be undertaken (costing even more money), to see if it was viable to re-open it.

I don't the final outcome is known yet,  but like Venue Cymru, the Sun Centre is a massive financial burden for tax payers.

The Sun Centre has been run by Clwyd Leisure Ltd, a private company (albeit one set up by Denbighshire Council), since 2001.  It's been fairly well known that Clwyd Leisure was poorly managed and it had been on the verge of extinction for many years.  Denbighshire Council used to provide funding to Clwyd Leisure but recently announcing they were cutting the amount they would give them in future and Clwyd Leisure promptly went kaput at which point they, and not Denbighshire Council, closed the Sun Centre.  Since then Clwyd Leisure have handed the keys back to Denbighshire Council who are now considering whether or not they can reopen it. 

I believe there's a plan to demolish the Sun Centre and build a new aquatics centre in it's place so chances are it's closed for good.  There was a rumour that a businessman who runs a number of water parks was interested in taking it over but that rumour seems to have quietly passed away.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 21, 2014, 11:21:06 am
Didn't Rhyl have some type of aquatic centre before and a floral garden and Pavillion.     Rhyl spends a lot of money on various projects but always seems to get them wrong.
The new pedestrian bridge does look good though and the cafe on the Kinmel Bay side is coming on well and should be open for the Summer season.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 21, 2014, 12:14:25 pm
Didn't Rhyl have some type of aquatic centre before and a floral garden and Pavillion.     Rhyl spends a lot of money on various projects but always seems to get them wrong.
The new pedestrian bridge does look good though and the cafe on the Kinmel Bay side is coming on well and should be open for the Summer season.

Rhyl sea life centre - I'm sure it's still there
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on February 21, 2014, 02:27:24 pm
Rhyl Botanical Gardens is still going strong.  It's more of a community facility than a tourist attraction as it's a bit off the tourism track but it's very well used and a real asset to the town.  It's what Craig-y-Don Park & Community Centre should aspire to be like.

https://www.facebook.com/RhylBotanicalGardens (https://www.facebook.com/RhylBotanicalGardens)

I'm not sure about a Pavillion other than the Pavillion Theatre which is still going strong - for now.  The fact it's joined onto the Sun Centre might be a bit of a problem if the Sun Centre does get demolished  :'(.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 23, 2014, 01:36:34 pm
Rumour. Parade ...........> 147 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 23, 2014, 01:48:09 pm
as well as the plough
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2014, 08:54:07 am
I see Delightful Cafe (corner of Mostyn St/Trinity Sq) has closed down and is shown as 'To Let'
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2014, 11:52:04 am
Please DaveR finnd some positives.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 27, 2014, 01:21:52 pm
...perhaps they could start doing trips round the bombs in the bay?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 27, 2014, 02:28:59 pm
Bomb Bay tours?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 27, 2014, 03:34:33 pm
 $donald$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 27, 2014, 03:55:40 pm
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Superb!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 27, 2014, 04:47:32 pm
Quote
I'm not sure about a Pavillion other than the Pavillion Theatre which is still going strong - for now.  The fact it's joined onto the Sun Centre might be a bit of a problem if the Sun Centre does get demolished  :'
(.


I was thinking about the old Rhyl Pavillion, the one with the domed roof that you could see from miles away.    The powers that be said the roof was unsafe so the building had to be demolished but when it was demolished the roof came down  intact.     :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2014, 04:07:10 pm
The Looking Glass Ice Cream Parlour (in the old Escape shop) has a sign in the window advertising for staff.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 13, 2014, 04:57:33 pm
Noticed a Job advert today for a Barista required at a new cafe called Cups n Cakes. Not that I am in the job market but where is this Cups n Cakes going to open.
And how many coffee facilities will that total.
Strangely enough one would have thought that being a Coffee Bean Merchant would be a lucrative business but I have noticed them going bust recently.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on March 21, 2014, 06:36:04 pm
Hickory's Smokehouse in Rhos is now open - https://www.facebook.com/hickorysrhosonsea (https://www.facebook.com/hickorysrhosonsea)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 22, 2014, 01:05:00 am
I spotted that in the newspaper, and I bet my wife that Andy would point it out on here first!

We are certainly going to be giving it a visit!   $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on March 23, 2014, 12:24:11 pm
I've had a bit of feedback on Hickory's from my parents who managed to get themselves invited to one of their trial runs and got a free meal there.  The decor is apparently very nicely done and an impressive job.  The food however was (or would have been if they'd had to pay) very expensive for what it is.  One option on the menu is a 52oz steak priced at £70, which I assume is either there in case Adam Richman turns up or is intended to be shared by three or four people.  The food they actually had - prawn starter, pulled pork and Key Lime pie was nice not enormous portions considering the prices.  On the plus side the coffee was very nice.  Basically it sounds like they're charging Chester riverside prices alongside the B5115 in Rhos-on-Sea.  My parents won't be rushing back, although they probably aren't part of the demographic Hickory's will be targeting and they probably wouldn't have rushed there if it hadn't been for the offer of a freebie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 23, 2014, 12:38:50 pm
I will probably give it a try but i must admit i do try and support the town traders and find plenty to keep me fed,but i know lots who love to get out of town and this will suit a lot.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2014, 01:15:47 pm
With the demographic tending towards those of pensionable age, the Government will have to give me a pay rise before we go there!
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 23, 2014, 01:37:55 pm
Yorkie, don't give up on it too soon.  $good$

Do what we intend to do and initially try this midweek menu.

http://hickorys.co.uk/chester/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/01/H-Generic-Offers-multi-web.pdf (http://hickorys.co.uk/chester/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/01/H-Generic-Offers-multi-web.pdf)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 23, 2014, 01:50:35 pm
Nothing at all that us veggies fancy on the menu!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 23, 2014, 02:23:31 pm
Salads

Classic Caesar Salad (v) Crisp lettuce freshly tossed in a Caesar dressing with crunchy croutons & grated Parmesan cheese £7.95
Chargrilled Chicken Caesar Salad With Hickory’s smoked bacon £11.95
Hickory’s Sticky Beef Salad Sweet & sticky pieces of beef fillet on freshly tossed leaves . £12.95
Chef’s Chopped Cobb Salad With ranch dressing, blue cheese, baby plum tomato, boiled egg, avocado, crispy bacon, chargrilled chicken & Cheddar cheese . £11.95
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 23, 2014, 05:38:09 pm
I would not want to pay £8 for salad!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 24, 2014, 05:50:35 pm
Although Dave R and I once munched our way through 100 chicken wings in one sitting, even I would not contemplate a 52oz  steak.

However, I understand the novelty value of offering that, and I fancy EVERYTHING else on that menu.

I'm spoiled for choice, and I WILL be rushing there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2014, 09:27:19 am
Dave R and I once munched our way through 100 chicken wings in one sitting
...an occurence that will never be repeated. Depriving 50 chickens of their wings just for one meal is a ridiculous idea.  &shake&

The new Hickorys Steakhouse does look to be a good addition to the local dining offer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 29, 2014, 10:46:53 am
I was just reading an article from the buisness daily about the Tudno Castle and director Andrew Burnett said we have had exceptionaly strong interest in the 3 restaurants,interesting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 29, 2014, 10:58:25 am
Anybody know what is going into the former Manor Foods shop next door to Fountains?

Whoever or whatever it is has applied for a change of use.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 29, 2014, 01:03:00 pm
That's interesting where did you see the info regarding change of use for mannor foods. I saw two well dressed gents entering the premises yesterday.
If they need a change of use one can only imagine it must be food orientated. seen no planning app signs
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 29, 2014, 05:33:13 pm
It is outside on a pillar.

Change of use from A1 to A3.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 30, 2014, 05:40:31 pm
That is change of use from retail too restaurant,cafe or pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on April 01, 2014, 05:44:56 pm
no more please
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 06, 2014, 12:56:25 pm
I hear the London is to reopen towards the back end of April with sky sports and beer at £2.50 a pint. Cheep wine and spirits, and low cost bottles. it is also to host Karaoke nights and live entertainment. I also hear the food offer is to be the cheapest in town, whatever that is. apparently the brewery have agreed wholesale prices and low rent to recapture the basic fundamentals which is to sell lots of beer. going into competition with the Carlton and wetherspoons.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 06, 2014, 09:28:03 pm
Hmmm, a shame that the previous licensees weren't given that same opportunity,  are will it be the same family re-opening it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 07, 2014, 09:30:50 am
I hear the London is to reopen towards the back end of April with sky sports and beer at £2.50 a pint. Cheep wine and spirits, and low cost bottles. it is also to host Karaoke nights and live entertainment. I also hear the food offer is to be the cheapest in town, whatever that is. apparently the brewery have agreed wholesale prices and low rent to recapture the basic fundamentals which is to sell lots of beer. going into competition with the Carlton and wetherspoons.

Not good news for Cooneys or indeed his other bar, both of which aren't cheap, especially the newer establishment
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 10, 2014, 06:18:39 pm
This, unfortunately, is the whole problem. Pubs trying to undercut each other with cheap beer and cheap food - the standards just get lower and lower and those pubs are not the sort of place that decent people want to frequent and are to the most part - empty. Then, luckily, someone opens a decent establishment, clean, good beer and no TV or music, and low and behold, it's a storming success. And those empty pubs selling low-cost lager to the odd drunk cannot understand why. The Albion in Conwy is an obvious example. It's not cheap beer and food that the majority of people want, it's a decent establishment. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 10, 2014, 07:03:17 pm
Bosun we have the London,Mostyn Arms and the Parade available yet nobody will invest in town.I would say the lads in the town house and crossn keys look after their beer well and the Snowdon,Kings Head,Queen Vic are decent pubs,the Neville is a very local pub then eateries the Albert and the Cottage Loaf very nice,only leaves the Carlton ,wethers and the Kings Arms bottom of the list,not sure why nobody will try the Albion idea but we can;t force people to invest even in a top ten resort.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 10, 2014, 11:27:22 pm
When I hear people moaning about beer prices, I usually roll my eyes in disdain, because you get what you pay for in life in terms of nice surroundings etc.

But today, I heard myself complaining in agreement with those folks, as I bought a pint of lager in the Lilly at West Shore, and was charged FOUR POUNDS and TWENTY FIVE PENCE!!         
Yes, £4.25 a pint, next stop a fiver a pint, and it won't be long.

I often get asked why the pubs in town are so quiet, well at those prices they deserve to be.   &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 10, 2014, 11:59:39 pm
Makes petrol seem a bargain price by comparison!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2014, 07:38:22 am
Quote
Makes petrol seem a bargain price by comparison!

True, but I can never get rid of the aftertaste.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2014, 07:57:19 am
 _))* yes I remember the taste from siphoning petrol! Haven't done that for years! But it makes you think, £4.25 per pint, £34 per gallon!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2014, 08:42:38 am
2 x large white wines in Osborne House yesterday - £12. Still, you're paying for the lovely surroundings, so no problem.

We had a meal in Home Cookin afterwards. Couldn't fault it, enjoyed my steak/ale pie very much.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 11, 2014, 11:06:55 am
When I hear people moaning about beer prices, I usually roll my eyes in disdain, because you get what you pay for in life in terms of nice surroundings etc.

But today, I heard myself complaining in agreement with those folks, as I bought a pint of lager in the Lilly at West Shore, and was charged FOUR POUNDS and TWENTY FIVE PENCE!!         
Yes, £4.25 a pint, next stop a fiver a pint, and it won't be long.

I often get asked why the pubs in town are so quiet, well at those prices they deserve to be.   &shake&

Wetherspoons do a lovely Belgian beer - 6% at £2.29!! But I hate Wetherspoons with a passion, for having killed the other pubs in town. Those top whack prices are where we are heading, I payed about 7 quid odd for a double something or other in 147 last time I went, for a moment I thought I was in London till I realised my foot were stuck to the floor  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2014, 05:28:24 pm
What a lovely time us teetotallers have on all the money we save by not visiting such establishments!   :D ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 11, 2014, 05:51:15 pm
What r u saving for Yorkie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2014, 07:58:32 pm
What r u saving for Yorkie.

My old age!     :D     $walesflag$

Sorry, I forgot to add, and a healthy one!  I don't smoke either.  My Mum would be very proud of me!   ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 12, 2014, 11:51:47 pm
I don't want to be the richest man in the graveyard.

Dave, £6 for a large glass of white wine is not THAT bad, for the quality you get in Osborne House.
The beers and spirits in there though are way more than the average.  £4.75 for a bottle of Corona, thats a stinger!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 13, 2014, 09:15:59 am
I don't want to be the richest man in the graveyard.


Ah!  But wait 'till you see the grave!    :D :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2014, 08:53:49 pm
I don't know what's going on at Cafe 121 on Upper Mostyn Street, but there has been no food available the last couple of times we've been in. A shame, as it's a great little cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on April 14, 2014, 10:24:44 am
I don't know what's going on at Cafe 121 on Upper Mostyn Street, but there has been no food available the last couple of times we've been in. A shame, as it's a great little cafe.

Oooooooops!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 14, 2014, 09:47:58 pm
   Sounds rather strange to me. A cafe with no food.??   Well, what the he-- has it got?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 14, 2014, 09:48:25 pm
   Sounds rather strange to me. A cafe with no food.??   Well, what the he-- has it got?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 14, 2014, 09:52:06 pm
   In case anyone thinks that I am starting to repeat myself --- when I posted the first time a message came up that someone else was posting and I might like to read that first. So O.K., but all that happens is Ive repeated myself.  Add that to mumbling to myself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on April 14, 2014, 10:00:47 pm
Ormegolf you are in good company, it has happened to me.
Hope it is not an age thing    ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2014, 11:36:53 pm
Italian food has never been at the top of my preferred list, but this weekend Mrs F and the in-laws persuaded me to book a table for 4 at La Taverna in Church Walks.

I am mightily glad they did, as the food, drink and ambiance were excellent.
The menu is extensive, and I can recommend this restaurant to my own customers and forum members alike.

I look forward to patronising La Taverna again in the near future, and along with The Seahorse, it is right 'up there' with the best that the Three Towns area has to offer.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 15, 2014, 06:46:32 am
Iwas in there Saturday nite,as usual brilliant meal and nice staff,im shocked you have;nt been before.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 15, 2014, 08:55:48 am
Work going on in the Parade,come on DaveR ,rumours about the London re-opening,work on going in Parade and no news from DaveR ,slipping DaveR.lol Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2014, 09:50:33 am
You only had to ask, Wrex.  :P The Parade was sold by Enterprise Inns last month for £180,000 to a 'local hotel and bar operator'.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2014, 11:06:11 am
I don't know what's going on at Cafe 121 on Upper Mostyn Street, but there has been no food available the last couple of times we've been in. A shame, as it's a great little cafe.

People seemed to be eating in there when we passed about 1/4 hour ago.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 15, 2014, 08:04:18 pm
London DaveR,GET THAT EAR TO THE GROUND.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2014, 08:34:16 pm
London DaveR,GET THAT EAR TO THE GROUND.
http://www.daltonsbusiness.com/pubs-for-sale/london-hotel-marstons-llandudno-llandudno-clwyd-wales/338531 (http://www.daltonsbusiness.com/pubs-for-sale/london-hotel-marstons-llandudno-llandudno-clwyd-wales/338531)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 15, 2014, 09:32:06 pm
What a laugh. The accommodation has not been touched for over 20 years, so bad that the top two floors are listed as semi derelict on the lease. The recent licensee who has been there for 9 years maintained 6 very good quality Cask Conditioned Ales. And the food has been available all day until 9.00 pm where they sold a serious amount of food. They are offering the business at £19,000. They fail to mention the fact the business is available on the Marstons web site requiring a rent of £48000,  and a brewery tie on wet stock. Then I think you are required to purchase the remaining Fixtures and Fittings over e period of a few years. As the asking price covers Training at £700, Brewery deposit at £11,500, and working capital at £7,000.
The licensee who is departing with his family offered me the opportunity to purchase the business in 2013, pleased now I didn't, but made interesting viewing. checkout this link.

http://www.networxrecruitment.com/Jobs/Advert/59191?FromSearch=False (http://www.networxrecruitment.com/Jobs/Advert/59191?FromSearch=False)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 16, 2014, 09:42:25 pm
You only had to ask, Wrex.  :P The Parade was sold by Enterprise Inns last month for £180,000 to a 'local hotel and bar operator'.  8)

I heard it was that it was Richard, who owns the 147 Club,  The Gresham,  The Plough (Rhyl),  Bonkers etc.....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on April 17, 2014, 02:14:35 pm
He should invest in a cleaning company, I know a few places that he could get the contracts for.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 18, 2014, 11:15:19 am
Lots of roamers regarding the London. Fact is the Tennants still occupy the building, see them every day walking their dog.
The brewery refuse to change the extortionate rent situation. and their high mark up on the wholesale prices. Otherwise they say they would have been open for the Easter Holidays. Shame
 ,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 18, 2014, 10:28:59 pm
Had a nice nite in the Snowden then met Mr AND Mrs Fester in the Gresh very nice eveni ng x
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 19, 2014, 12:01:17 am
It was indeed a nice evening, always a pleasure to meet Mr and Mrs Wrex.   ZXZ

But..... moments after leaving The Gresh,  we were tempted by the following sign outside The Lilly, (formerly Fat Cats)

We were tempted inside, only to be told at 10pm that the offer was over,  another barman said, 'no the offer is only on Friday'
I reminded him that it WAS Friday!
Another staff member said, 'no, it doesn't apply at holiday weekends'
I asked.... 'why does it say every Friday then?'
The member of staff hurried outside to take the board away, and they would not honour the offer.

So, we left in disgust, and this just goes to show how far that bar has declined since it was taken over and renamed.
I can't see it lasting long, considering it is always empty when most others seem to be thriving.
See the sign below.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 19, 2014, 11:18:00 pm
Been to tiffanys tonite omg it a long time
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on April 24, 2014, 03:01:15 pm
Gezzy and I went to Liverpool for the day yesterday.  I'd been told about a restaurant called Red One in Liverpool 1.  What a fantastic place  $good$  It's basically an all all you can eat buffet with foods from all over the world.  We paid £9.99 and took out plates and the food items were endless from American, Moroccan, Indian, Chinese and British etc.  When you finish a waiter takes your plates and you can go again.  Sweets are also included it was fantastic.  It's very warm in there and the food is quite salty though the reason for which I feel is they want you to spend more on drinks.  We got a 4 pint pitcher of Tango.  The bill was £24.50 and we couldn't have eaten any more.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 24, 2014, 04:28:31 pm
Gezzy and I went to Liverpool for the day yesterday.  I'd been told about a restaurant called Red One in Liverpool 1. 

What's it like for Vegitarians?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on April 24, 2014, 06:26:50 pm
No idea didn't ask.....but there was loads of veg salads, pastas etc
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: 1_rob_1 on April 24, 2014, 07:51:49 pm
Hi
Pendragon - you mean "Red Hot World Buffet" http://www.redhotworldbuffet.com/ (http://www.redhotworldbuffet.com/)
It is part of a chain, they have a few restaurants dotted around. I have been to their Manchester branch & that is very good also.
In Manchester there is also another "world Buffet" a few minutes walk away form Red Hot called "Tops" which in my opinion is better & cheaper.  D)  http://www.tops-restaurants.co.uk/ (http://www.tops-restaurants.co.uk/)

Rob
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on April 24, 2014, 09:03:51 pm
Yeah Rob that's the one.  I can never get a name right hehe
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2014, 10:02:57 pm
Been to the one in Leeds,  it is indeed superb!    $good$ $good$ $dins$ $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on April 25, 2014, 10:42:07 am
we've been there a few times and had everything from Sushi to  Steak and Kidney Pie, not to mention the little desserts and a chocolate fountain, there's something for everyone, and very reasonable.
Last time in Liverpool was to go and see "Miranda" so we treated ourselves to a fantastic steak at the Miller and Carter on Albert Dock. Another place for pushing the boat out is Alma Da Cuba, which is in an old Church having retained many of the Ecclesiastical fixtures and fittings. One of our favourite places though is the China Palace all you can eat buffet in Seel Street, well worth the walk up Bold Street.

One thing you always get in Liverpool, regardless of price is great service with a dose of humour!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 27, 2014, 01:00:58 pm
I think the London re-opens on Friday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on April 27, 2014, 03:31:48 pm
Just walked past and heard a woman shouting to someone in the street - yes we are opening on Friday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 27, 2014, 05:32:55 pm
Local girl has it on trial i think,good luck i think with a local in charge it may work better.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 27, 2014, 07:58:03 pm
Called into Cups N Cakes in Mostyn Street the other day. It's obviously been set up on quite a tight budget as the interior decor is not as smart as it could be for a high street location. Having said that, the coffee and cup cake were great, so it's certainly worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on April 30, 2014, 09:02:13 pm
The outside of The London is looking great - they are making a good job of it - will be  there to have a look over the week end.
 As ex publicans we wish them all the luck in the world.
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 01, 2014, 12:14:45 pm
Called into Cups N Cakes in Mostyn Street the other day. It's obviously been set up on quite a tight budget as the interior decor is not as smart as it could be for a high street location. Having said that, the coffee and cup cake were great, so it's certainly worth a visit.

Looks like a nursery to me, why anyone in their right mind would want to pay over 2 quid for a coffee in a place that looks like a nursery is beyond me.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 01, 2014, 04:42:54 pm
I must admit i was expecting a nice cake shop not another cafe
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2014, 08:38:28 am
I was hoping for homebaked bread-- Like the shop which opened and closed in Porthmadog. Ah well-- back to the breadmaker ! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on May 08, 2014, 02:53:56 pm
Has anyone been in the new London Pub yet and what changes have they made especially the prices. I'm out of the area so unable to experience my self. It was closed for a while.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 08, 2014, 03:08:38 pm
Yes been in twice,not sure what i paid,they need a dj late on to keep people there but otherwise nice local folk.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 08, 2014, 04:11:15 pm
a band would be even better Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2014, 07:16:58 pm
Mrs Fester and I had a couple of beers in there on Monday night, as the Extravaganza was being dismantled.

We were made to feel more welcome than previously.   It still has a long way to go though, to realise the potential that it obviously has.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on May 09, 2014, 04:33:13 pm
Was in Trinity Square this morning and it looks like a cafe is opening where the old Alice in Wonderland place was.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 09, 2014, 05:03:47 pm
This is not the kind of publicity any establishment wants, especially not a 'high-class seafood restaurant'.....

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/food-hygiene-ratings-north-wales-7097331 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/food-hygiene-ratings-north-wales-7097331)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 09, 2014, 07:35:45 pm
This is not the kind of publicity any establishment wants, especially not a 'high-class seafood restaurant'


Now that legislation is involved it no longer matters how clean or dirty a premises is or how likely that place is to make you ill. Like anything else where Local or Central Governments involved, it's all about the paper trail.

Have you completed your Part I and II Hygiene courses?.
When did you last sit a HASAP course (Hazard analysis and critical control points)?
Where are your Refrigerator and Freezer temperature records?,
Where do you source the food you provide to your customers?, how is it transported to your premises? and at what temperature? physical records please.
Where are your records of how you control and rotate your stock?,
Where are your records of how you cook your food and at what temperature and for how long do you hold your cooked food?,
Show me how you keep cooked and uncooked food separate,
How do you dispose of your waist cooking oil?.
Let me see the records of you cleaning regime,
What chemicals do you use? and let me see the Health and Safety Data sheets that go with them.
Have your staff been trained as First Aiders?

This truly is the tip of the iceberg. For small one man bands and people with limited English it truly is a nightmare to comply with, which helps to explain why some of the establishments are on the list. The bottom line should be, are people being hurt or put at risk if they use these establishments and if they are, give the courts the power to impose huge fines and hefty prison sentences as appropriate.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 09, 2014, 09:14:22 pm
It's a tricky issue, not least because there's a lot in what you say. But legislation requires evidence, and the paper trail is an important part of that. But spot checks focussing on cleanliness and technique are an equally important aspect.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 10, 2014, 07:19:13 am
Perhaps the reason for so many bad eating places is that they spend too much time on paperwork rather than food preparation.  I can hardly see any celebrity Chef surrounding himself with tons of ledgers!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 10, 2014, 06:17:43 pm
Hardly. If they knew the procedures they would therefore know about food hygiene. There are plenty of places with 5* who obviously comply which gives a customer confidence. 

I think that the ratings system to enable customers know the hygiene of a food outlet is an excellent idea.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 10, 2014, 07:30:57 pm
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Hardly. If they knew the procedures they would therefore know about food hygiene. There are plenty of places with 5* who obviously comply which gives a customer confidence. 

Hmmm.  The big problem is that once you have clearly defined criteria then staff are trained to comply with that criteria precisely, without necessarily understanding about food hygiene. It's a syndrome well understood in the NHS and Education, both of which have been the subjects of 'assessments' and targets, neither of which seem to achieve very much in real improvements.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 10, 2014, 11:50:08 pm
It's a rather dubious (and pompous) argument to suggest that that those in the catering industry do not understand the importance of food hygiene and rather degrading to those that comply.

There are numerous outlets that have 5*, and they should be applauded, that those that have dubious hygiene standards - caveat emptor. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 11, 2014, 08:25:19 am
Who is suggesting that "those in the catering industry do not understand the importance of food hygiene:"? If you're referring to what I said:

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The big problem is that once you have clearly defined criteria then staff are trained to comply with that criteria precisely, without necessarily understanding about food hygiene.

I made a distinction between understanding the importance of hygiene and understanding its implementation.  I pointed out that simply conforming to a rule does not - by any stretch of the imagination - imply comprehension of the reasoning behind that rule. Many complex and target-heavy activities are similar: people go through the motions but don't necessarily understand exactly why they do things

The rating system is far from perfect, I agree, and its execution also leaves something to be desired. The inspectors are keenly aware that their verdict on an establishment can mean the difference between a successful business or the loss of a living, so I imagine it won't be too long before we see the first cases being tested in court as the one-man business feels they've been unfairly or incompetently treated.

However,  the reputation of an entire resort can be threatened by a single rogue caterer whose blatant disregard for their customers' safety eventually manifests as a food poisoning incident, so it's not a trivial issue by any means. I think what we have at the moment is a good first step, and I imagine it'll become refined over time. But the sad fact about catering is that a lot of young folk are employed in the industry whose knowledge of temperatures, how and when to check 'fridges and freezers, food storage and even basic personal hygiene is often lacking and experience has demonstrated it's not enough to leave it to the industry itself. The paperwork, about which so many complain, is the only objective way to assess at least superficial compliance with basic regulation, although an even better step would probably be completely random spot checks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 11, 2014, 08:51:53 am
It rather worries me that a food hygiene exam can now be taken 'on-line'. When I did mine it was rather like a school exam-- sitting at a desk with nothing to refer to--just brain power !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 11, 2014, 09:05:30 am
And there are a number of companies who now simply provide booklets which you complete - at your own pace - and return to them, for the award.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 11, 2014, 12:36:56 pm
No wonder folks don't know a dish cloth from a scrubbing brush!

OMG I dread to think what goes on where we don't see !! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 11, 2014, 08:55:34 pm
Is 135 upper mostyn st the old manor stores,app to change it into anoter restaurant and take-away.Nothing wrong with a good retaurant i just hope its a good one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 11, 2014, 09:36:13 pm
Wrex,  the more the merrier in Upper Mostyn Street, I say.

That strip could become a real destination for visitors looking for a good night out, drinks, food etc...

The BIG problem though, is that most decent places stop serving very early, before 9pm in most cases.
That leaves you with a curry or a kebab after those hours.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 11, 2014, 10:05:20 pm
 Nemesis is a bit concerned about public health exams are now taken on the internet. I think she should well be.

  This is nothing to do with a serious subject like public health.  But I recently was required to take an "e learning " course and at the end take a 20 mins exam covering around 30 questions So I read it through, you could go back and forth through the pages, and then I took the test which, once started, you had to complete. I ran out of time, and it stated that because I hadn't finished I had only got 72% pass and I needed a min of 80%. So failed. Go back and read it all again.

  So I did. Took it again, faster, got 73%, failed. I knew where I had gone wrong, one of the questions you had to pick one out of six alternatives. Only one choice was correct. And it was a complicated subject, I read through the lessons a couple of times and I still wasn't sure.

   So, to save myself time and hard work, I just took the test, ticked "a", wrong, went back took test again, ticked "b",  and again ticked "c"  BINGO YOU HAVE REACHED 80% YOU HAVE PASSED.

   I might add before anyone gets worried that this was to do with mechanising in the financial world and involved putting up leaflets and posters for maximum effect. Hardly life threatening, but dead complicated.  Mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 12, 2014, 08:28:19 am
Exactly Mike. Different subject, but same idea-- open to lack of supervision. I've been in places and come out again, not liking what I could see, never mind what I couldn't.
It will always stay in my mind that the day my Dad died he was admitted into hospital and we had to insist that the doctor washed his hands before he examined Dad. Why ?--- He had just walked into the room and vociferously blown his nose. This was back in the late 90s and I don't imagine things have got any better .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 12, 2014, 09:36:39 pm
   Thats really dreadful.  I only hope you don't suspect this Doctors actions affected your Father so much that he failed to recover. In which case you will be living with this for ever
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 12, 2014, 10:29:07 pm
I hear that Chrissie's Seafood kitchen in Conwy has ceased trading.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2014, 08:33:18 am
   Thats really dreadful.  I only hope you don't suspect this Doctors actions affected your Father so much that he failed to recover. In which case you will be living with this for ever

Thanks Mike-- but no. He had had one of the first Mitral Valve transplants in the North Of England which was supposed to last for 7 years. He lived for 17 years after it, so we were actually living on a knife edge for those 17 years. Not like today with modern methods-- he was in hospital for 13 weeks at the time and my mother didn't drive--- so the journey from Huddersfield to Leeds was made every single day by my OH and myself. At 78 it wasn't viable to re-do the procedure.

We seem to have diverted from the title subject---sorry folks !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 13, 2014, 01:55:14 pm
No problem at all, N.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 13, 2014, 07:31:43 pm
I think that this very good article that may clarify the situation and explain matters that have been the subject of discussion in respect of food hygiene ratings.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/food-hygiene-ratings-dirty-dozen-7109492 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/food-hygiene-ratings-dirty-dozen-7109492)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 17, 2014, 09:29:29 pm
I do have to admit some surprise that no-one has commented on the above post, as it really does concern the fundamentals of the commercial core of the area. And there were several posts immediately after the original link that rather disparaged the principles of the rating system....  yet no response to the last Daily Posts article....

Interesting.... 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 17, 2014, 10:17:53 pm
Surely if it scores 0 it should be shut down? Who would want to go in such a place anyway?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 18, 2014, 08:06:38 am
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And there were several posts immediately after the original link that rather disparaged the principles of the rating system....  yet no response to the last Daily Posts article.... Interesting.... 

Not sure why you find it 'interesting'; it's fairly common for topics to dip, especially when a number of points have already been made, none of which the Daily Post article actually addresses.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 18, 2014, 11:11:23 am
I do have to admit some surprise that no-one has commented on the above post, as it really does concern the fundamentals of the commercial core of the area. And there were several posts immediately after the original link that rather disparaged the principles of the rating system....  yet no response to the last Daily Posts article....

Interesting....

I feel that all the rules and regulations we have today have helped to take away the body's natural defence mechanisms whereby it builds up immunity to many of the bugs and upsets that have become more prevalent than they ever were.  Us oldies ate plenty of rubbish often prepared in what would now be considered unhygienic conditions, and we are the one who seem to survive the regular bugs that pervade society nowadays.

Go into the streets of some far eastern countries and eat the delicacies prepared in and on the streets, withour a bottle of disinfectant in sight,  lovely grub!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 18, 2014, 06:10:57 pm
I went to Virgilio's Restaurant in Colwyn Bay last night and enjoyed the  Espetada Mista which is Madeira's version of surf & turf, a mixture of jumbo king prawns marinated in garlic, coriander and lemon, juicy cubes of sirloin with rock salt, garlic and bay leaves.
Absolutely delicious and the place was really busy, it won't be long before I'll be back again and ordering the same thing again.     $good$   $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 19, 2014, 07:56:14 pm
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And there were several posts immediately after the original link that rather disparaged the principles of the rating system....  yet no response to the last Daily Posts article.... Interesting.... 

Not sure why you find it 'interesting'; it's fairly common for topics to dip, especially when a number of points have already been made, none of which the Daily Post article actually addresses.

The Daily Post's latter article actually puts all the points into perspective and gives the rating system the credibility it deserves. However, I have actually eaten street food in India, Thailand, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Malaysia many times and love it. I once enjoyed a plateful of fresh prawns grilled over a small brazier at the side of the road by a street vendor whilst enjoying a cold beer in Bangkok. I was contemplating another delicious plateful when I realised that the prawns were being supplied by youngsters on the other side of the road fishing through a grid into the storm drain. Once in KL I was enjoying grilled spicy chicken whilst watching a rat have a tug-of-war with a cat over a piece of offal. The rat was bigger by a factor of 2, but the cat won.

Some of the finest Asian food I have tasted has been from street vendors and shacks on the beach. Happy days.

The other factor to consider is that in Asia, a far greater proportion of food is eaten out; some living accommodation for office workers I saw in Bangkok was built without kitchen facilities, and people exist on street food which has a very fast turn-over, getting their breakfast on the way to work and supper on the way home. The vendors rely on repeat trade and the food has to be good, fresh, and cheap, and there is a huge variety to choose from. I rather doubt that a hygiene rating would be of any use there.

For one of the best curries available in the UK, try the Ghurkha Restaurant in Brecon, owned by a former Ghurkha and his wife. 

         
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 19, 2014, 09:10:56 pm
Bosun wrote: For one of the best curries available in the UK, try the Ghurkha Restaurant in Brecon, owned by a former Ghurkha and his wife. 

Or one could even go to Veraswami's in Swallow Street, London!   $drink$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 19, 2014, 11:02:42 pm
..... or The Kashmir in Bradford.

I would be surprised if it got more than 0 out 5 on the hygiene ratings, but its fantastic and I have never been ill!

I once ate prawns in Bangladesh on my first night of a business trip.   I was so ill, I spent the next 5 days in my hotel room,,, as I had turned into a human liquidiser.   Disgusting but true.    I wanted to die on most of those days.

I ate in that Chinese buffet which occupied the ground floor of The Clarence in Llandudno.   It had ZERO hygiene rating, but I ate there about 20 times and was never ill    Luck of the draw eh?   I was gutted when it closed down.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 20, 2014, 07:10:25 am
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The Daily Post's latter article actually puts all the points into perspective and gives the rating system the credibility it deserves.

In fact it only gives an account of the system, but singularly fails to address any potential shortcomings in its implementation. Or are you arguing that the current system is perfect?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2014, 12:59:19 pm
A Birthday Lunch at Hickorys Steakhouse!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 22, 2014, 01:26:35 pm
Wow! I hope you are both hungry and happy birthday. :__)+
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 22, 2014, 08:37:44 pm
Happy Birthday  +}}{--
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 22, 2014, 08:43:21 pm
Happy birthday. The "can" on the right of the photo - that really took me back. I had completely blotted these out of my memory, the last time I even thought of them is well over 60 years ago. We all had one when I was in the R.A.F
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 22, 2014, 08:47:44 pm
Happy birthday. The "can" on the right of the photo - that really took me back. I had completely blotted these out of my memory, the last time I even thought of them is well over 60 years ago. We all had one when I was in the R.A.F

Mess Tins Mike, I had a set when I joined up in the mid sixties, 'Per Ardua ad Astra'.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 22, 2014, 11:31:25 pm
A couple of important messages for Dave.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 23, 2014, 09:35:24 am
Happy birthday. The "can" on the right of the photo - that really took me back. I had completely blotted these out of my memory, the last time I even thought of them is well over 60 years ago. We all had one when I was in the R.A.F

Mess Tins Mike, I had a set when I joined up in the mid sixties, 'Per Ardua ad Astra'.      $angry$

I'm livid!   I was in the RAF and never saw a mess tin, let alone given one!    >>>
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on May 23, 2014, 09:40:16 am
If anyone wants a mess tin of their own I happened to notice that they were selling them in Poundworld in Colwyn Bay the other day.  I'm not sure how much they cost, you'd need to check with a member of staff  :roll:.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 23, 2014, 09:51:46 am
 _))* _))*

Doh !!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on May 23, 2014, 10:47:17 am
I spent my first three years in the Air Force living under canvas so almost everything I did revolved around a mess tin you'd be surprised what you can do with them
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on May 23, 2014, 08:28:03 pm
Noticed that the spirit group the owners on chef and brewer wacky warehouse and other pub are advertising for front of house and kitchen staff at their wacky warehouse at the old station hotel Llandudno junction wonder if that means j w lees have sold on the business to the spirit group . And whether the junction is in for a wacky warehouse anyone got any gossip.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2014, 11:31:08 pm
A slightly late Thanks to all for my Birthday wishes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 24, 2014, 01:56:55 am
A slightly late Thanks to all for my Birthday wishes.

Especially to Hulk Hogan, and the Macho Man? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 24, 2014, 05:25:37 am
Hope you had a great Birthday!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on May 24, 2014, 10:15:23 am
Noticed that the spirit group the owners on chef and brewer wacky warehouse and other pub are advertising for front of house and kitchen staff at their wacky warehouse at the old station hotel Llandudno junction wonder if that means j w lees have sold on the business to the spirit group . And whether the junction is in for a wacky warehouse anyone got any gossip.

I heard that it had changed hands quite a while ago although I couldn't say who the new owners are/were.  It had a refurb a couple of months ago but I haven't been in for years so I don't know how much has changed, although the reviews on TripAdvisor are reasonably promising.  A Wacky Warehouse would be a good selling point since the Afon Conwy no long has Charlie Chalk's and I'm sure it would help the Station attract a few families their way.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on May 24, 2014, 10:30:11 am
Thanks nice to see the junction making progress with many a car dealership moving In, new schol planned and family facilities on their way
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 24, 2014, 10:35:03 am
We had a great meal in Coffee Junction the other day, very friendly, great service, good food at a good price too!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2014, 04:00:49 pm
We called into Providero in the Junction yesterday, excellent coffee and chocolate cake.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 25, 2014, 08:58:47 pm
I see the Neville hotel is up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: viv on May 28, 2014, 10:50:50 pm
The Plough Hotel, Old Colwyn:Here is our new restaurant menu! The restaurant opens tomorrow at midday, and will open every day except Mon & Tues. There will be an extra specials board on Sunday with roasts, etc. We recommend you book a table if you want to guarantee a space - 01492 515387

Here is our new restaurant menu!

The restaurant opens tomorrow at midday, and will open every day except Mon & Tues.

There will be an extra specials board on Sunday with roasts, etc.

We recommend you book a table if you want to guarantee a space - 01492 515387


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 29, 2014, 11:47:37 am
STILL NO NEWS ON WHO,WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE PARADE,SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ONIT.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 29, 2014, 04:07:37 pm
How can we accept an advert on this board with the phrase 'open everyday' except Mon & Tue surely open Wed to Sun is more in keeping  with trades descriptions? Which beers is far more important! 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on May 29, 2014, 06:51:23 pm
How can we accept an advert on this board with the phrase 'open everyday' except Mon & Tue surely open Wed to Sun is more in keeping  with trades descriptions? Which beers is far more important!

The prices look a bit above the usual pub grub.   Must pay a visit and sample this "wonderful" menu.    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on June 04, 2014, 12:47:36 pm
Staff at Mr B's in Upper Mostyn St. have been told to look for other work.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 04, 2014, 06:25:09 pm
Just a weird setup in the place,did try it,food was ok
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 04, 2014, 10:53:57 pm
Staff at Mr B's in Upper Mostyn St. have been told to look for other work.

That's sad,  after all that investment and refurb!     I was looking for a chance to giving it a try, but it was never open in the evening times when I was looking to eat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2014, 08:16:33 pm
52 Madoc st change of use too cafe restaurant,not sure where 52 is.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on June 05, 2014, 08:46:29 pm
Wrex - I think it might be old Red Shop next to the Albert.  Good news if someone is taking it on as its been empty for ages.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on June 05, 2014, 09:16:13 pm
Mr.B's has a half page ad in the Pioneer, advertising for fathers day and their new summer menu.  They may of course still be laying some staff off....... ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on June 05, 2014, 09:21:19 pm
Mr.B's has a half page ad in the Pioneer, advertising for fathers day and their new summer menu.  They may of course still be laying some staff off....... ££$

That advert was most probably already paid for.  I'll try and find out a time scale for the closure and all the staff were told to start looking for new jobs.......
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2014, 05:56:28 pm
Had lunch in the Groes Inn the other day for the first time. A very pleasant place to eat and great food.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 07, 2014, 06:45:17 pm
I popped in there for a coffee the other day and the place has a nice relaxed atmosphere.   It's been a while since I've had a meal there but the food looked good as it went past.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2014, 06:54:50 pm
We have eaten at the Groes many times over the last 40 years, and its food quality and standard of service has always been superb.  We have tended to eat in the Bar unless it has been a gathering with friends, when the Restaurant has been more suitable.   We haven't been for a few months so this has been a timely reminder that we must make a visit very soon.    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on June 17, 2014, 03:10:26 pm
Strange but I keep noticing on the scores on the doors web site The London has no score . The web site keeps saying it is due to be tested or visited on a particular day this if followed by a notice saying awaiting inspection then a few days late when you look for a result the whole process starts again with the message saying awaiting inspection and a new inspection date. Bit like a broken record. Any ideas anyone got any thoughts
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 21, 2014, 08:27:56 pm
Rumour about Nando;s for the Clarence.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 21, 2014, 08:33:04 pm
Nice meal in Seahorse last nite ,drink in the Snowdon first then drinks in the Gresham and Dr Jonses,then headache.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 21, 2014, 09:17:04 pm
after revisiting your wallet?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2014, 11:49:33 pm
Nice meal in Seahorse last nite ,drink in the Snowdon first then drinks in the Gresham and Dr Jonses,then headache.

Dr Jones's is not long for this world I hear.

Wrex, is is possible to NOT have a great meal in The Seahorse?   It's fantastic, must go again soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on June 22, 2014, 01:57:23 pm
Think Dr Jones or Dr death as is otherwise known is not been long for this world since it opened. Too many pubs up the street or maybes just unscrupulous operators. These days if you pay top dollar for your drink you want the service and atmosphere to go with it
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2014, 06:12:14 pm
Nice couple of lads on their guitars and it always seems busy when their on.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 02, 2014, 06:44:50 pm
I've heard many good reports about Bunker's Bistro in Conwy Old Road Penmaenmawr ( near the Golf Course) so we stopped for lunch there on our way home.
It had a lovely warm  friendly atmosphere  and we really enjoyed the food and the panoramic views from the Bistro.   Prices were very reasonable too.      $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 03, 2014, 09:54:40 pm
The Cottage Loaf.

For the first time since it's extension was built, we decided to try the food in The Cottage Loaf last night.

I had heard very good reviews about it, and we were not disappointed.  It really is fantastic.

I ordered the Menai Mussels, in the main course size at £9.95,  I have never seen the like... it was ENORMOUS!
I needed THREE separate bowls to put the empty shells in.  The garlicky, coconut and chilli cream sauce was superb.
Mrs F had the Steak and Conwy Ale pie,  it was equally superb.

We were ogling the different meals on adjacent tables,  (Seabass, the Steak Burger etc..) .. and those people were checking out ours.  It really is the best pub/restaurant food I have had in N Wales.

We have booked again for Saturday night,  I can't wait!    $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 20, 2014, 07:37:43 pm
We went to Hickorys Smokehouse in Rhos last night for Dinner and decided to sit at the bar style seats overlooking the kitchen area. It was fascinating to see a busy kitchen at work, a constant array of mouth watering meals being prepared. We had the Ribeye steak, it was fantastic! Have to say that both the service and standard of food was superb, great to see such a professionally run business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 20, 2014, 07:50:25 pm
great place for children and if you like hustle and bustle but when i go to eat i prefer a little less madness,but great food nice popcorn.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 20, 2014, 09:24:25 pm
great place for children and if you like hustle and bustle but when i go to eat i prefer a little less madness,but great food nice popcorn.

How was La Taverna last night Wrex??   

I have to say that The Seahorse was FANTASTIC!    $dins$ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 21, 2014, 06:51:40 am
Good as always Fester,could you imagine the Mediteranean having a good name,it would be heaving such a waste.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2014, 11:54:16 am
I had the most fantastic Fillet Steak last night.  It was from specially bred Highland Cattle, and was succulent and tender, literally melted in the mouth.   Cooked and served by the resident Chef at Chez Yorkie! 
    $lol$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 21, 2014, 05:37:43 pm
Where are we up to with the Parade,is it a nice venture or a cheap one,not a lot been said,although it is taking longer than the Washington
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 22, 2014, 01:15:40 am
Where are we up to with the Parade,is it a nice venture or a cheap one,not a lot been said,although it is taking longer than the Washington

Yorkie, that is not helpful, and belongs on the 'blowing my own trumpet' thread.

Wrex... judging by the length of time being taken over the Parade, and the very nice decor I have seen being created, it would suggest that it might be something good this time?? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 24, 2014, 12:42:01 am
Had a blissful evening on the Terrace outside The Deganwy Quay hotel this evening.

Not a breath of wind, sultry warm, and spoilt for choice as which view to watch.... the illuminated Conwy Castle or the idyllic view in the mouth of the estuary as the sun goes down.

Had a fantastic meal too.   A sharer platter of grilled lamb. beef, chicken.... dips etc, of the highest quality.

Yes it's pricy for drinks,  I'm glad it's pricey..... because it's worth every penny and more.

One of those nights when one is grateful to be alive, and living in this area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2014, 08:11:59 am

Yorkie, that is not helpful, and belongs on the 'blowing my own trumpet' thread.


I will, no doubt, be amongst other distinguished Members of the Forum, who shall remain un-named, and un-shamed!   
 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 25, 2014, 01:39:11 am
Been drinking tonight.... well, Mrs Fester is away working, so what is a man supposed to do?

Before I sober up, I would just like to point out what a great night I had,  what great local characters helped me in my mission, and (apart from no nightclub) what a great array of pubs of all types there are to 'invest' in!

I had a very civilised drink in the Gresham,  some pleasant tapas with that.    Then a raucous hour involving me singing some karaoke in Cooneys.   A nice pint of Wrex in The Snowdon.
Another civilised pint in The Queen Vic,   then back to The Gresh for some beers on the terrace.

A walk home up the Gt Orme has not yet shaken the cobwebs out..... and I am looking for something to stick in the microwave,
Where is the microwave by the way??

We are lucky to have so many sociable pubs and characters in this town....   Goodnight. (hic)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 27, 2014, 09:59:58 pm
Any news onthe Washington or the Parade,both dragging their feet.Suprised the Royal has;nt been sold to our Jewish friends.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 27, 2014, 11:47:54 pm
No news on The Parade..

But, The Queen Vic held a 'farewell' party tonight for Tom and Carol,  and I hear that the family who run Badger's Tea Room in the Shopping Centre are taking the Vic from now.

In the last few weeks though, the many hoteliers from Church Walks, who drink in The Vic have all moved en-masse to The Snowdon.
This is because Tom and Carol BARRED the lot of them, in extremely strange circumstances.... involving recording the conversations they were having in the bar!    Hmmm.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2014, 07:16:53 am
Any news onthe Washington or the Parade,both dragging their feet.Suprised the Royal has;nt been sold to our Jewish friends.

Or Anglicam, Muslim, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Presbiterian, Baptist, Budhist, Mormon, or any other religious sect or faith!  Maybe an Agnostic will grab the place and turn it into a Strip Club! 
 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2014, 08:50:02 am
Any news onthe Washington or the Parade,both dragging their feet.Suprised the Royal has;nt been sold to our Jewish friends.

Last year many of our Jewish friends were staying at the closed down Royal, their children were in the garden, but they seem to have gone elsewhere.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on August 01, 2014, 08:44:06 am
It seems Starbucks are on their way to Llandudno as they're looking to recruit a store manager in Llandudno, Gwynedd - http://offer.jobisjob.co.uk/llandudno-gwynedd-wales/cafe-fortune/starbucks-store-manager/job-offer-ncobdoeug56ao3dq5pr5efhk5e?cat=_RT_&pos=1 (http://offer.jobisjob.co.uk/llandudno-gwynedd-wales/cafe-fortune/starbucks-store-manager/job-offer-ncobdoeug56ao3dq5pr5efhk5e?cat=_RT_&pos=1)

This is good news for me.  I make a point of boycotting Starbucks on a matter of principle (re. their tax dodging) but it was always difficult to do when the nearest one, that's open to the general public at least, was forty miles away.  The place next to the petrol station in Bodelwyddan made things a bit easier but it's going to be better still having a local outlet to boycott  D).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 01, 2014, 08:54:57 am
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 01, 2014, 11:00:17 am
I've never visited a Starbucks in my life!   Why should I start now?  I'm with you FA.    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 01, 2014, 11:05:47 am
Quote
This is good news for me.  I make a point of boycotting Starbucks on a matter of principle (re. their tax dodging) but it was always difficult to do when the nearest one, that's open to the general public at least, was forty miles away.

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Wonderful!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 01, 2014, 11:38:35 am
I also boycott Starbucks, but it's only because I refuse to pay more than 50p for a cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 01, 2014, 12:13:07 pm
Apart from at home, where can you get a cup of coffee for under 50p?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 01, 2014, 01:34:03 pm
It's more than 50p but Mcdonalds do absolutely cracking coffee for about a quid. It's always piping hot too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 01, 2014, 01:44:58 pm
Apart from at home, where can you get a cup of coffee for under 50p?

The last time I bought a coffee from a public place would have been about 1999 from Conwy United football ground. I remember it cost about 40p and I remember thinking that was a bit steep at the time but what the hell. Not seen one that's value for money since. I get as much free coffee as I want at work that'll do for me $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 01, 2014, 01:45:48 pm
Now... if it was Irish coffee, that would be different  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 01, 2014, 01:59:53 pm
I'll stick to my double espresso at Costa in Colwyn Bay. £1.98 and it knocks your block off ! I only get chance once a month when I have to kill an hour in the Bay whilst the dog has his haircut, but an hour in Colwyn bay and I need it !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2014, 02:03:35 pm
I make a point of boycotting Starbucks on a matter of principle (re. their tax dodging) but it was always difficult to do when the nearest one, that's open to the general public at least, was forty miles away.  The place next to the petrol station in Bodelwyddan made things a bit easier but it's going to be better still having a local outlet to boycott  D).
http://www.starbucks.co.uk/our-commitment (http://www.starbucks.co.uk/our-commitment)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on August 01, 2014, 02:35:39 pm
Apart from at home, where can you get a cup of coffee for under 50p?

Brewers Fayre do an unlimited refill coffee for about £2.50 so if you have at least six cups that works out at less than 50p a cup  ???.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 01, 2014, 02:51:21 pm
Thanks Dave, for Starbucks link........great P.R. on the face of it, and you cant argue with their employment and expenditure figures......BUT......lets see.     I still like supporting the smaller local businesses.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2014, 03:08:41 pm
Thanks Dave, for Starbucks link........great P.R. on the face of it, and you cant argue with their employment and expenditure figures......BUT......lets see.     I still like supporting the smaller local businesses.
Here's a little story. We went into a coffee shop in Penrhyn Road, Colwyn Bay this morning for a spot of lunch. There was only a few people in, together with three staff. We looked at the Menu and saw that the Lunch Menu (which comprises 90% of the food available) was only available from 12pm. It was about 11.40am, so we asked if food was available. Not till 12, we were told! So, we just had drinks and spent our money elesewhere. The cafe in question lost £10+ that we would have spent there on food.

I thought to myself, I can go to Costa and get a Toastie or Sandwich at 7am in the morning, yet can't get similar from an independently owned cafe at 11.40am. Maybe that's why Costa is so successful.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 01, 2014, 03:23:25 pm
Just when I am trying to stick up for the little guy....... :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2014, 03:25:59 pm
Just when I am trying to stick up for the little guy....... :(
You're certainly doing the right thing, I like to support independent businesses too, but sometimes, I do wonder....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 01, 2014, 03:31:10 pm
Apart from at home, where can you get a cup of coffee for under 50p?

Brewers Fayre do an unlimited refill coffee for about £2.50 so if you have at least six cups that works out at less than 50p a cup  ???.

Wetherspoons do likewise for only £1.30 each.  $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 01, 2014, 04:01:03 pm
Yep I saw that offer when I was in one in St Ives and thought it was good.  $good$
Also do free WIFI as well, so I figure I can go to Wethers get 8 cups of coffee for 16.25p each and download some music whilst I am there.
That's my Saturday morning sorted
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2014, 05:36:54 pm
Yep I saw that offer when I was in one in St Ives and thought it was good.  $good$
Also do free WIFI as well, so I figure I can go to Wethers get 8 cups of coffee for 16.25p each and download some music whilst I am there.
That's my Saturday morning sorted
It's a wonder any cafes stay in business with you about!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2014, 07:07:52 pm
   Going back a good few posts but only about a couple of days ago----a dog getting a haircut every four weeks.
   Fester and I have something in common. Neither of us gets our haircut every four weeks. Don't know about Fester but I go , I suppose, around every four/five months. Because I cannot be bothered to more often. Also I am not keen on Llandudnos barber shop prices of over 8 pounds when I can get the same thing (good old short back and sides) for less than 5 pounds in Colwyn Bay and down to under 3 pounds in Old Colwyn. Fortunately for me my hair grows fast so it doesn't really matter if they make a mess of it
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 01, 2014, 11:31:40 pm
Yep I saw that offer when I was in one in St Ives and thought it was good.  $good$
Also do free WIFI as well, so I figure I can go to Wethers get 8 cups of coffee for 16.25p each and download some music whilst I am there.
That's my Saturday morning sorted

..... and aren't you the guy who starts crying on here when local businesses close down?    How ironic.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 02, 2014, 06:18:38 am
Just watch how busy it is when it opens
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on August 02, 2014, 09:04:01 am
Might be visiting Llandudno area week after next.
Do any of these places serve Camp coffee, that used to be cheap.
It is a while since I have been out for a coffee.
Dont get out much here on Mull.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2014, 11:57:38 am
Might be visiting Llandudno area week after next.
Do any of these places serve Camp coffee, that used to be cheap.
It is a while since I have been out for a coffee.
Dont get out much here on Mull.

I used to love Camp Coffee when I was a youngster but haven't had any or seen any for years.  I think the only camp coffee around this area would be in the Fairy Falls in Trefriw!
Seriously though Mull,  DaveR is the expert on coffee on this forum and if Dave doesn't know then no one will.
Hope that you are able to come to Llandudno and that you have an enjoyable stay while you are here.    $good$

 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 02, 2014, 01:38:30 pm
My apologies.$cofffee$

Apparently, the cost of a large cup of coffee in Wetherspoons is only £1.15 and comes with unlimited refills. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 02, 2014, 01:54:51 pm

Might be visiting Llandudno area week after next.
Do any of these places serve Camp coffee, that used to be cheap.


I hated Camp Coffee but I was totally addicted to Chicory Essence!   :D $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 02, 2014, 02:52:53 pm
No news on The Parade..

But, The Queen Vic held a 'farewell' party tonight for Tom and Carol,  and I hear that the family who run Badger's Tea Room in the Shopping Centre are taking the Vic from now.

In the last few weeks though, the many hoteliers from Church Walks, who drink in The Vic have all moved en-masse to The Snowdon.
This is because Tom and Carol BARRED the lot of them, in extremely strange circumstances.... involving recording the conversations they were having in the bar!    Hmmm.


Just walked past there and had a look on the boards outside to see if they had "veggie" options on the Menu - yes - Veggie Burger (in a floured bun) with chips, peas and leaves - £9.95.  :o  Think I will be giving that one a miss.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2014, 04:45:03 pm
A new cafe opening in Upper Mostyn St, on the site of the Fat Cat Annexe:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 03, 2014, 12:20:47 am
Went to Lilly West Shore tonite for tea before Venue Cymru,food was good but the place looks a mess,no pride in the appearance,what a shame people can let their buissness get so shabby.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 08:36:55 am
The typography, branding and colour scheme look a right state in my humble opinion. Isn't every cafe in Llandudno a seaside cafe? It does nothing to appeal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 10:18:25 am
We walked passed it this morning and thought how nice it will look when it is finished.   :D

In town this morning and without tables and chairs outside any of the restaurants etc noticed how dirty the pavements in front of them really are. Do they not scrub or mop them besides sweeping them before the chairs go back out?  Where we live in Spain the front pavements are scrubbed and bleached early every morning before setting up for the day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 03, 2014, 10:40:28 am
Hola,   Could'nt agree more,    Adios.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 03, 2014, 10:45:02 am
Yes I remember the days Mostyn st used to get scrubbed early morning,s when going to work ,it is a complete mess nowadays ,councilers must have their eyes closed walking around the town .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 03, 2014, 06:12:26 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2014, 06:46:21 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.
Lack of suitable premises, maybe? Plenty of small units available but nothing really big enough for a decent bar, I think.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2014, 06:47:22 pm
We went to Hickorys Smokehouse again on Friday night. Another excellent meal, cant recommend it enough.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 07:30:05 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

Lack of foresight Wrex? About 6 years ago I wracked onto a local business man friend of mine with a fair few buck in his pocket and said, you know what do well in this town, an American style diner. Anyway, he never capitalised on my advice, but what do you know, Hickory's and Harvey's opened up and well seem to be doing damn well, especially Hickory's. Now was I wrong or was I right? If I had the money in my pocket back then, i'd of opened one myself.

Now for my next prediction...

An all-you-can-eat buffet where all the food is out on display and being constantly refreshed because it's so busy! Whoever opens one first wins!

I think a nice trendy bar would do well in this town Wrex, one without any expense spared on the fixtures and fittings, a real classy establishment with a full-length cocktail bar, with professional cocktail makers who can entertain as well as serve. They would have to be just pricey enough to keep the riff raff out right Wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 07:56:18 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

Lack of foresight Wrex? About 6 years ago I wracked onto a local business man friend of mine with a fair few buck in his pocket and said, you know what do well in this town, an American style diner. Anyway, he never capitalised on my advice, but what do you know, Hickory's and Harvey's opened up and well seem to be doing damn well, especially Hickory's. Now was I wrong or was I right? If I had the money in my pocket back then, i'd of opened one myself.

Now for my next prediction...

An all-you-can-eat buffet where all the food is out on display and being constantly refreshed because it's so busy! Whoever opens one first wins!

I think a nice trendy bar would do well in this town Wrex, one without any expense spared on the fixtures and fittings, a real classy establishment with a full-length cocktail bar, with professional cocktail makers who can entertain as well as serve. They would have to be just pricey enough to keep the riff raff out right Wrex?

Bet that car park at Hicory's and surrounding area is spotless.
We had a pub for 20 years before we retired and my cleaners would clean all the surrounding areas before they did the pub inside  as we all said the what you see outside is what you will get inside and this is why we will not go into a mucky outside any eating place,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 08:08:05 pm
Good point Systema. It's all about taking pride in your establishment I guess. My biggest gripe is dirty frontages, old cracking stained paint, dark streaks running off the window sills, not hard to pop to B&Q a bit of sugar soap, grab a tin, a few brushes and a ladder eh. Makes all the difference. Just don't paint your establishment pink... not in Llandudno anyway  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 08:09:14 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

Lack of foresight Wrex? About 6 years ago I wracked onto a local business man friend of mine with a fair few buck in his pocket and said, you know what do well in this town, an American style diner. Anyway, he never capitalised on my advice, but what do you know, Hickory's and Harvey's opened up and well seem to be doing damn well, especially Hickory's. Now was I wrong or was I right? If I had the money in my pocket back then, i'd of opened one myself.

Now for my next prediction...

An all-you-can-eat buffet where all the food is out on display and being constantly refreshed because it's so busy! Whoever opens one first wins!

I think a nice trendy bar would do well in this town Wrex, one without any expense spared on the fixtures and fittings, a real classy establishment with a full-length cocktail bar, with professional cocktail makers who can entertain as well as serve. They would have to be just pricey enough to keep the riff raff out right Wrex?

Salmonella on a plate for fatties.

We have them in Spain where we live for half a year but half of them we knew  last year have shut down as people take more than they can eat then the food is binned -  what a waste.  Then they serve them the next day and this is where the trouble starts.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 08:20:09 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

Lack of foresight Wrex? About 6 years ago I wracked onto a local business man friend of mine with a fair few buck in his pocket and said, you know what do well in this town, an American style diner. Anyway, he never capitalised on my advice, but what do you know, Hickory's and Harvey's opened up and well seem to be doing damn well, especially Hickory's. Now was I wrong or was I right? If I had the money in my pocket back then, i'd of opened one myself.

Now for my next prediction...

An all-you-can-eat buffet where all the food is out on display and being constantly refreshed because it's so busy! Whoever opens one first wins!

I think a nice trendy bar would do well in this town Wrex, one without any expense spared on the fixtures and fittings, a real classy establishment with a full-length cocktail bar, with professional cocktail makers who can entertain as well as serve. They would have to be just pricey enough to keep the riff raff out right Wrex?

Salmonella on a plate for fatties.

"being constantly refreshed because it's so busy". I can understand your concern if place is dead, but there are such establishments because I go to one when i'm on business in Cardiff for about £12.50 a serving and its pretty damn good value for money for what you get. The place is always busy which gives a good turnover on the food. You can even go 'A la carte' at no extra cost and have a steak cooked in front of you over a large hot plate. I tend to empty all the pork ribs and chicken wings though mind.

Anyway, if your a businessman, who cares who it caters for, it's all about catering for need and making money. If theres a gap in the market which I think there is, just like the American Diners, then people will buy it. Ok it's not your typical £25 2 course meal out and a bottle of wine in a 'nice restaurant', but it's great when you can't quite decide what you want to eat and want to try a little something of everything and it's family friendly with a reduced price for the children.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2014, 08:21:40 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

There are much better ways of investing for better returns without any of the hassle.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2014, 08:22:29 pm
Salmonella is a good way to loose weight !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2014, 08:24:52 pm
Craig, have you not seen the awful Tripadvisor reviews for Harvey's?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 08:29:47 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

There are much better ways of investing for better returns without any of the hassle.  :)

I would go for it if I was younger - good luck to you - go for it
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 08:30:23 pm
Salmonella is a good way to loose weight !

 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 08:32:05 pm
Craig, have you not seen the awful Tripadvisor reviews for Harvey's?

No I haven't, I haven't been there either though I had intended to. Hickory's it is then  $good$. I'm expecting big things with this Hickory's, everyone is raving on about it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2014, 08:32:25 pm
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

There are much better ways of investing for better returns without any of the hassle.  :)

I would go for it if I was younger - good luck to you - go for it

Already have!  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2014, 08:35:35 pm
Craig, have you not seen the awful Tripadvisor reviews for Harvey's?

No I haven't, I haven't been there either though I had intended to. Hickory's it is then  $good$. I'm expecting big things with this Hickory's, everyone is raving on about it.

I've only heard good things about Hickory's but unfortunately as we are veggies there is little on the menu that appeals to us.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 08:42:13 pm
We are oldies so have a bus pass which also allows us to go on the train to our favourite veggie resaurant ever.
The Alpine Coffee Shop and Gallery is one of North Wales' most popular Cafes. Situated on Betws-y-Coed railway station at the heart of the Snowdonia National Park it is busy throughout the year.  Love the Alpine - got to be our favourite ever.
http://www.alpinecoffeeshop.net/ (http://www.alpinecoffeeshop.net/)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 09:09:25 pm
Going on the train tomorrow morning - have a walk round betws y coed - lunch at Alpine - back home to Llandudno - who wants more than that ??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 03, 2014, 09:11:19 pm
Sounds nice Systema, enjoy your excursion. Don't forget to post your pics! Hope the weather is nice for you.

Have a beer on us  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on August 03, 2014, 09:29:38 pm
 I have mentioned this before. Harveys, terrible reports and reviews. My own experience, went in with my family soon after it opened and my youngest daughter refused to eat there. Apparently over words with some of the staff over baby changing facilities. So we all traipsed out.
  But whoever Harveys is are not put off a little bit. They have purchased the old Marsh, later renames Marsh Warden in Rhuddlan which has been closed for many a year. And pulled the whole lot down, every last brick. On what looked to outward appearances a good solid building which had served as a pub and eating house for years.
  A completely new building will house a Harveys. I imagine a dine in and/or drive through.
   So much for bad reviews.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mikethewatch on August 04, 2014, 12:48:57 am
The typography, branding and colour scheme look a right state in my humble opinion. Isn't every cafe in Llandudno a seaside cafe? It does nothing to appeal.
Pop in next time you're  passing and give them some advice based on your  vast experience in the catering and retail trade
I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 04, 2014, 08:44:53 am
Why do members think no local entrepaners have invested in a trendy bar for town.

Lack of foresight Wrex? About 6 years ago I wracked onto a local business man friend of mine with a fair few buck in his pocket and said, you know what do well in this town, an American style diner. Anyway, he never capitalised on my advice, but what do you know, Hickory's and Harvey's opened up and well seem to be doing damn well, especially Hickory's. Now was I wrong or was I right? If I had the money in my pocket back then, i'd of opened one myself.

Now for my next prediction...

An all-you-can-eat buffet where all the food is out on display and being constantly refreshed because it's so busy! Whoever opens one first wins!

I think a nice trendy bar would do well in this town Wrex, one without any expense spared on the fixtures and fittings, a real classy establishment with a full-length cocktail bar, with professional cocktail makers who can entertain as well as serve. They would have to be just pricey enough to keep the riff raff out right Wrex?

Bet that car park at Hicory's and surrounding area is spotless.
We had a pub for 20 years before we retired and my cleaners would clean all the surrounding areas before they did the pub inside  as we all said the what you see outside is what you will get inside and this is why we will not go into a mucky outside any eating place,

Your business frontage is what people see first. There are various places locally that I wouldn't set foot in, let alone eat, as someone said Why can't they hose down the greasy residue and sweep up the tab ends outside? If what you see there is left like that I hate to imagine what the kitchen is left like !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2014, 08:51:32 am
I agree that many local businesses leave a lot to be desired with regards to the exterior appearance of their properties. Of course, the owners have a million and one other things to think about , but it's important not to let things like that slip. Attention to detail is the difference between a good and a great business.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on August 04, 2014, 09:07:50 am
Now for my next prediction...

An all-you-can-eat buffet where all the food is out on display and being constantly refreshed because it's so busy! Whoever opens one first wins!

The Afon Conwy do all you can eat buffets each evening and they get very busy pretty much every night.  Mrs FA and I popped in last Wednesday on spec thinking we'd be ok mid-week but we had to wait about 30 minutes for a table.  Admittedly it's not the finest quality food but Wednesday is currently "Hot dogs & burgers" night so for £6.99 you can take your pick from burgers or cheese burgers (with or without bun), frankfurters or battered frankfurters (with or without hot dog roll), grilled chicken breasts, breaded chicken, chips, onion rings, chilli, BBQ beans, bacon, fried eggs and no doubt a few things I've forgotten about.  There's also a salad bar but why anyone would want salad when they can have an unlimited supply of burgers and hot dogs I've got no idea.  I washed mine down with an unlimited refill soft drink (choice of Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, Tango Apple, Tango Orange or R. Whites Lemonade) so you can eat and drink as much as you can for less than a tenner  D).

There's a different theme each evening, currently there's also Fish & Chips, Currys, Mexican, Italian and Chicken Shack on Saturdays.  Strangely there's no Chinese at present but they do change things around from time to time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 04, 2014, 09:23:42 am
The typography, branding and colour scheme look a right state in my humble opinion. Isn't every cafe in Llandudno a seaside cafe? It does nothing to appeal.
Pop in next time you're  passing and give them some advice based on your  vast experience in the catering and retail trade
I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated

I do not claim to have 'vast' experience in catering and retail though I have enough of an insight into the industry to adapt my services and creative styles. I do however have 'vast' experience as a professional creative designer, in branding, merchandising, corporate image, have lectured in design and have a handful of awards to my name within my area of expertise. On top of that for the early part of my career I designed and produced all manners of business stationary including menu's and signboards! So yes, I think that qualifies me to have a sturdy opinion that I think it looks sham. This case it probably isn't the business to blame, but the sign writer or 'graphic designer' who has been let loose on the brief, "Our Café is going to be called this, can you knock something up for me" with little thought gone into it and no questions asked, and that's my point.

Maybe the interior will have something to shout about, i'm hoping to see some lit up starboard and portside lamps on the walls, beach netting hung from the ceiling, alternate blue and white striped beach hut style tongue and groove, maybe even an old ship wheel or port hole windows on the wall, not to forget a hanging mobile seagull above your table would make a good talking point. To me it just looks like any other greasy spoon café, if it was my café (famous old adage, i'd do this i'd do that) I would be saying to myself how am I going to differentiate from other businesses in town, that's your 'unique selling point' or USP. Why pick me over them? because everywhere else is full and this café is empty? or because your being enticed in some way? Because you only have to look at the number of cafe's in town, how does one choose? Creating an experience through branding is a great way of delivering that but it has to be from the outside in, and above all your product has to deliver on top of that.

Whilst most here care to comment on the state of the pavement outside, loose fag ends, seagull cack on the windows. I prefer to share my professional opinion, load of tips here I normally charge for this! Ask me about pocket watches Mike, I know jack all.

Right, i'm going for a brekky, anyone else up for one?  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 04, 2014, 10:12:56 am
Had mine ages ago-- Orange juice, a nice bacon sandwich and a cup of very strong black coffee.

Dave R.-- you have a good business head ! ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 04, 2014, 10:56:07 am
Had mine ages ago-- Orange juice, a nice bacon sandwich and a cup of very strong black coffee.

Dave R.-- you have a good business head ! ;D

 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2014, 01:30:46 pm
The Starbucks coffee shop that is opening at 1 Mostyn Street is a franchise, rather than a Starbucks owned business. It is operated by the same company that operates KFC restaurants under franchise locally.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 04, 2014, 01:36:45 pm
Always thought they were all franchises dave
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 05, 2014, 12:39:27 am


The Afon Conwy do all you can eat buffets each evening .  Admittedly it's not the finest quality food but Wednesday is currently "Hot dogs & burgers" night so for £6.99 you can take your pick from burgers or cheese burgers (with or without bun), frankfurters or battered frankfurters (with or without hot dog roll), grilled chicken breasts, breaded chicken, chips, onion rings, chilli, BBQ beans, bacon, fried eggs and no doubt a few things I've forgotten about.  There's also a salad bar but why anyone would want salad when they can have an unlimited supply of burgers and hot dogs


Sounds fantastic.... I will be getting involved.
I wholeheartedly agree that salads are a complete waste of time, and should never interfere with real food!    $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2014, 08:50:05 am
Admittedly it's not the finest quality food
Sounds fantastic.... I will be getting involved.
Eating all that poor quality junk will not do anything for your health.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 05, 2014, 11:14:20 am
I agree that many local businesses leave a lot to be desired with regards to the exterior appearance of their properties. Of course, the owners have a million and one other things to think about , but it's important not to let things like that slip. Attention to detail is the difference between a good and a great business.

Having just returned from my morning walk with the dog, this thread popped into my mind as I walked past a food outlet in the town centre. Under the outside tables there was so much grease that the floor looked slippery. Again the same thing popped up as I walked past one of the small hotels and indeed one of the larger ones. The smaller had so much rubbish and mess surrounding it that the garden wasn't visible and the larger one looked ready to fall into it's unkempt garden. Don't people see such things or is it just me?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on August 05, 2014, 01:30:49 pm
Zanzibar in Colwyn Bay has changed hands and will be reopening as the Flat White Cafe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 05, 2014, 06:09:32 pm
Nemesis ..... it's not just you, it's every discerning visitor to Llandudno, and like you, they will move to the next food outlet, or worse another town for their next outing........apart from the pavements, I also notice the fabric of the upper buildings in Mostyn St. leave a lot to be desired, gutters etc. its the main street, its the one, most will see.
Last year, walking past the smaller hotels, (top end north shore) I said to my companions, "you would think these owners would pay more attention to their pavements"  I was overheard by the owner, sitting in his well kept garden, who informed me, in no uncertain terms "that he had bleached and pressure washed said pavement and later, had been advised by the council not to do it again "  an HS issue?  maybe the bleach, maybe the overspray, but, its a shame when someone tries . looks like its down to the council for heavy cleaning.....ah well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2014, 12:24:51 am
Admittedly it's not the finest quality food
Sounds fantastic.... I will be getting involved.
Eating all that poor quality junk will not do anything for your health.  &shake&

Sayeth the man who LIVES his entire life on Pizza.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 06, 2014, 08:52:05 am
Admittedly it's not the finest quality food
Sounds fantastic.... I will be getting involved.
Eating all that poor quality junk will not do anything for your health.  &shake&

Sayeth the man who LIVES his entire life on Pizza.   :laugh:
It's not about the sort of food you eat, it's the quality of the ingredients that go into them that matters.

Eating that sort of rubbish at the Afon Conwy will be reminiscent of the time we ate 100 chicken wings at the Carlton.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 06, 2014, 10:53:15 am
 :puke2: How many of you ate all those? :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 06, 2014, 11:38:17 am
:puke2: How many of you ate all those? :o

100 chicken wings is a mere snack to many people.   More difficult to strip off the tiny amount of meat on each one than eat them!    L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: craigollerton on August 06, 2014, 11:47:16 am
:puke2: How many of you ate all those? :o

100 chicken wings is a mere snack to many people.   More difficult to strip off the tiny amount of meat on each one than eat them!    L0L

100?!?!?! lol. Mmmm Chicken Wings :D 20 is about my max lol. Won't be getting Singapore style Chicken Wings on my next trip to Singapore, phewwwwww water water Arghhh mouths on fire! lol.

Totally addicted to Tesco's sweet chilli ones at the moment.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2014, 08:19:20 pm
:puke2: How many of you ate all those? :o

Dave and I did indeed trough our way through 100 chicken wings, deep fried ones at that... with dips and sauces!

We GORGED until we saw spots in front of our eyes, and continued until they were ALL gone.
Plus a few beers to wash them down.

I would do it again, in an instant!          $dins$ $drink1$ $dins$ $drink1$ $dins$ $drink1$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 06, 2014, 08:22:11 pm
You could also play a few games on the iPad in between bites!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 07, 2014, 12:12:56 am
You could also play a few games on the iPad in between bites!    ZXZ

Yes, If I had an ipad,   sadly any games I get to play are on an archaic iphone.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 07, 2014, 01:52:16 pm
You could also play a few games on the iPad in between bites!    ZXZ

Yes, If I had an ipad,   sadly any games I get to play are on an archaic iphone.  :(

The iPad has more room for a BIG Dictionary!   May be of help to you.   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 09, 2014, 07:05:03 pm
Edited by admin as unacceptable

Was that the one?  Not Yorkie with a BIG Y or a little y.   Only Admin have power of removal.

Yep, I agree, Fester is a nice, pleasant guy, and worthy of all the adulation poured upon him.   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Big Alan on August 09, 2014, 07:13:39 pm
Yep, that was the one. ACAB. Even ex ones Napoleon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 09, 2014, 10:14:33 pm
What did I miss??   ?{}?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2014, 07:45:55 am
What did I miss??   ?{}?

ACAB in an acronym for all cop(per)s are illegitimate.  I think at the time someone objected to the general slur.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 10, 2014, 09:39:29 am
Nice meal in the Osborne House last night,called in the Queen Vic first and was very busy,had a nose through the window of the Parade,it looks very nice indeed,then after meal a few Wrexham lagers in the Snowdon which again was very busy,pleasant night had supporting local hostileries.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 10, 2014, 08:45:51 pm
This is the view of the rather unusual ceiling at the Old Stag, Llangernyw but don't let it put you off! We had a delicious lunch of duck pate/Cornish sardines (starters) followed by slow roasted brisket of beef. Really good value at £12.95 for two courses.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2014, 08:50:39 pm
Price has gone up a lot since we last went there!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2014, 12:38:36 pm
Table and chairs in the window of The Parade now,that ia a positive sign.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 17, 2014, 10:07:48 am
Just googled cafe fortune which seems to be advertising for starbucks job Llandudno,not a lot comes up;interesting
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on August 18, 2014, 10:09:45 pm
Trip to Llandudno last week ended up as a day trip due to family commitments.
After a trip up the Orme to visit the family graves last Friday, followed by a walk around the top of the Orme, we set off to the town to find something to eat at 1800 hours.
As expected everywhere was busy and being unable to find a parking space at the Kings Head then found a space on Mostyn Street.
Decided to try Wetherspoons, managed to find a table for 2 looking back towards the balconies, memories of up in the gods about 1955/6 to see the Dam Busters.
Wife and I decided on the Fish Supper so went, to the bar to order. Told by the young lady only fish left was Scampi. By this time I was not in the best of moods and decided to find somewhere else to eat. Place was like a mad house.Tried a place on Mostyn Street  ? American diner , Queue was out of the door so decided not to bother.

Remembering a Fish & Chip shop we used to go when staying with my mother and father when they lived at West Shore we headed for Deganwy, and we found a Gem.

Harbour View Restaurant, Deganwy, ............Fish & Chips ,Mushy peas, Bread and Butter, Pot of tea, all served at the table by staff who looked pleased to serve us. I cannot recomend this place enough.

Put a smile on our face.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 22, 2014, 11:48:10 am
A little way out of the area but the White House in Rhuallt is worth a visit.   It's now bypassed by the A55 and therefore out of sight of passing motorists but I saw it for the first time in over 20 years when I had a walk near Rhuallt.    It looked very impressive from the outside so my wife and I thought that we would give it a go and tried the Early Doors menu which gives you two courses for £13.95.
The place is equally impressive inside and the place has a 5 star food hygeine rating which is always a good sign.
After looking at the menu for a while we both decided to have the Pork and Cider pie but then the waiter came past with a Homemade
beefburger which looked delicious so we changed our mind and enjoyed that instead.
I chose the Baileys cheesecake with vanilla ice cream for dessert and Mrs H enjoyed the Rhubarb frangipane tart with vanilla ice cream and apple puree
 $good$     $dins$
,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on August 22, 2014, 08:43:15 pm
 Great photo Hugo. I have known this building for over 60 years, first in passing and then later occasionally having a meal. It was always a "roadhouse." Looked like one and was one.
  By outside appearances it has certainly changed
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2014, 09:07:07 pm
2 good reports this week about the Queen Vic.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 23, 2014, 09:17:26 pm
2 good reports this week about the Queen Vic.

Yet, other previous regulars now won't go near the place.
Not sure why,  so I'll have to pop in and judge for myself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 23, 2014, 10:10:10 pm
We have been to the Seahorse tonight and they were turning people away. We thought it lively in the town but then we are country bumpkins!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2014, 09:57:20 am
2 good reports this week about the Queen Vic.

Wouldn't rely on who went--- they'd eat anything !  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2014, 09:57:54 am
I wonder where this could be?  8)

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=19&p=1131&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=19&p=1131&o=1)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on August 26, 2014, 11:11:09 am
I wonder where this could be?  8)

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=19&p=1131&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=19&p=1131&o=1)

Phone Colin and ask!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 27, 2014, 10:48:15 am
I wonder where this could be?  8)

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=19&p=1131&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=19&p=1131&o=1)

The Boulevard or the Wash? I can't see anything on that side of town being a good investment anymore. If I was opening a nightclub, I'd go the middle of town (That American Diner would be a good one) or the pier.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on August 27, 2014, 11:42:05 am
If I was going to open a bar it would be as close to premier inn As possible  that is the growth are . Upper mostyn street is finished. Over run with amateur run bars and low standards.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 27, 2014, 12:11:18 pm
If I was going to open a bar it would be as close to premier inn As possible  that is the growth are . Upper mostyn street is finished. Over run with amateur run bars and low standards.

I think it needs to be within a 100 metre catchment area of Wetherspoons. That's where all the sheep head to whenever they go to any town these days - the ones that'll go on to a nightclub will go after Wetherspoons.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 27, 2014, 04:35:01 pm
i think it could be 147
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 27, 2014, 04:40:02 pm
You're right - looking at it again it says Bar/Nightclub and looks to be somewhere already open. Can only be one place
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 27, 2014, 05:53:10 pm
I would love it to be the Wash as we hardly need another chinese.We need a local to invest in the kids that are left in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 29, 2014, 07:30:59 am
Cooneys Irish bar was busy last night,quite suprised,im sure i saw one of our Forum members sneaking in there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 29, 2014, 11:52:30 pm
Cooneys Irish bar was busy last night,quite suprised,im sure i saw one of our Forum members sneaking in there.

You did indeed..... straight from seeing you in The Gresh.  Looked like you were having a nice time mate!   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 10, 2014, 04:19:47 pm
Llanberis was busy this morning when I drove to Pen Ceunant to have a coffee.   It was a beautiful warm sunny day so we sat outside with Steffan and enjoyed a coffee and chat while viewing the stunning scenery around us.   The trains were full as they slowly passed by and we could see the steamer going up and down the lake.   
It's a nice experience to come here and every one is made to feel welcome there dogs. muddy boots etc and there is also a lot to do and see in Llanberis.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2014, 04:43:57 pm
We had a lovely meal at La Taverna in Church Walks, last night. Lasagne was superb!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 13, 2014, 04:53:11 pm
There's a new Indian restaurant called Jai Ho in Deganwy.  Don't know what it's like, I just noticed it when I had to visit the dentists the other day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 13, 2014, 11:06:58 pm
I've just come back from the China Club West End Colwyn Bay after enjoying another delicious meal there and the price was very good indeed.       $good$

http://china-club.co.uk/resources/Dragon-Style-Menu-Tasting.png (http://china-club.co.uk/resources/Dragon-Style-Menu-Tasting.png)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2014, 08:52:38 am
Cafe Cais, The little cafe on the coach park, my refuge when mrs S is in shopping mode, I can disappear for a couple of visits, great staff and good food and if you like cake, beware! and it helps the community. :) :)

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d3487874-Reviews-Cafe_CAIS-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d3487874-Reviews-Cafe_CAIS-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2014, 08:31:03 am
Here's a question for you all...where's the best breakfast in Llandudno?

I used to enjoy the one in Cafe 101, but standards seem to have sadly slipped lately. Went to Fortes yesterday, was enjoyable enough but not great value at £8.25.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 15, 2014, 08:44:55 am
OMG-- How much ? _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2014, 08:51:40 am
I believe the breakfast at the Empire is around £12, if you are not a guest and wish to partake. It is delicious, though!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 15, 2014, 08:53:40 am
AAAAGGGGHHHH! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: FatAndy on September 15, 2014, 09:07:17 am
Cafe One Two One seems to be in freefall judging by the latest reviews on TripAdvisor  :-[.

My current favourite breakfast in Llandudno is the Eggs Benedict from Wetherspoons however the Daily Post recently ran a reader's poll to identify the best breakfast in North Wales and the only place from Llandudno to make the top ten was Molly's Cafe so according to the Daily Post readership that's the place to go.

1. Yr Hen Efail, Dolgellau
2.Caffi Calley's Café, Caernarfon
3.The Beach Hut Guest House, Holyhead
4.Oinky’s Café, Llanddulas
5.Mike’s Bites, Bangor
6.Whistlestop Café, Rhuddlan
7.Pete’s Eats, Caernarfon
8.Caffi Cookes Café, Penrhyndeudraeth
9. Kristina’s Cafe, Wrexham
10.Molly’s Cafe, Llandudno

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/watch-yr-hen-efail-tearooms-7359917 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/watch-yr-hen-efail-tearooms-7359917)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2014, 09:10:37 am
Cafe One Two One seems to be in freefall judging by the latest reviews on TripAdvisor  :-[.
Yes, I really don't know what's going on there. When they opened, the standard of service and food was really good. Now, the reviews are awful and its pretty much crossed off our list, except for maybe coffee. They seem to have had a lot of problems with staffing, always new faces there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on September 15, 2014, 10:31:32 am
Revert back to my initial comment about the place!    :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 15, 2014, 11:32:33 am
I wondered in somewhere called I think ' The Greenery' (that's what it says on my bank charge anyway) the other day when I missed my train - excellent Vegetarian breakfast with coffee £6.50 - it's in Llandudno across from the town hall
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 15, 2014, 08:06:21 pm
The best VALUE breakfast I can find is in Cafe Indulgence, Clonmel St.
For £3.75, I get 3 items in a breakfast bap..... (I choose 2 rashers of bacon and a soft fried egg).... and any large coffee or tea,


Fat Andy, I think the Eggs Benedict in Wetherspoons is great, but they only get it right a third of the time.
Poached eggs gone hard, or taking way too long, or whatever.... so I gave it up, for Cafe Indulgence!


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 16, 2014, 12:46:54 pm
Fester, try Subway for their breakfast deal and request a six inch sub plus coffee.

At £2, it is a bargain and far healthier for you.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 16, 2014, 08:38:28 pm
The Parade is now called Snooze wine bar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2014, 08:57:29 am
The Parade is now called Snooze wine bar.
You're not saying it's finally finished?! How many months have they been working on it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 17, 2014, 05:16:12 pm
The Parade is now called Snooze wine bar.
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"Snooze" Really? Is it me or is that the worst name ever? Who wants to go out for a snooze!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on September 20, 2014, 08:47:15 pm
Interesting piece of info came my way today.  Dylan's restaurant of menai bridge, that was looking at Conwy for an outlet, is opening on the promenade at criccieth, in the art deco pavilion.  I know that the siting of the proposed outlet in Conwy was massively controversial, and everyone had an opinion, but some how I personally feel it a shame Conwy may have potentially lost out to criccieth.  Or may be ultimately they will do both towns, but with a different location in Conwy to the one originally proposed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2014, 09:53:28 pm
Great nite in Dr Jones last nite,great musicians,nice atmosphere,very busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on September 22, 2014, 09:49:43 am
               Wrex, we were walking back down Upper Mostyn Street on Saturday night after another excellent meal in "La Taverna", and heard the live music as we were passing "Dr.Jones" which sounded very interesting, but it was very full and we didn't go in. What was the name of the band or the guitarist performing there and are they there regularly?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 22, 2014, 05:10:26 pm
same lads most weekends,very good and had everyone singing
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 22, 2014, 08:39:57 pm
Great nite in Dr Jones last nite,great musicians,nice atmosphere,very busy.

It's a shame that it's hardly ever open the rest of the time..... that pub is DOOMED, and it's a real shame.  &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 27, 2014, 06:40:02 pm
We had Dinner in the Poolside Restaurant at the Empire Hotel last night, it was as good value and excellent as ever.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 27, 2014, 11:15:14 pm
I've heard so many good reports about La Taverna that we thought that we would give it a go tonight and we weren't disappointed.
Delicious meal, nice atmosphere and pleasant staff,  all contributed to a very pleasant evening.        $good$ $good$
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 28, 2014, 07:26:30 am
Can;t go wrong Hugo.We went to the Cottage Loaf again,same very busy and nice food.Any news on the Snooze.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2014, 11:07:53 am
Hickory's has enjoyed 'phenomenal' first six months in Rhos-on-Sea

US smokehouse says it has been given a warm Welsh welcome as more jobs are on offer for the run-up to Christmas

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/hickorys-enjoyed-phenomenal-first-six-7857254#rlabs=4 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/hickorys-enjoyed-phenomenal-first-six-7857254#rlabs=4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2014, 11:46:09 am
North Wales becomes foodie favourite after rise in quality eating places

Once a backwater for fine dining, North Wales is now looking local to grow its reputation as a favourite for foodies. Recent years has seen a growing number of quality eating places opening up – many using the region’s outstanding local produce to give people a true taste of Wales.
The latest newcomer is American smokehouse Hickory’s which has opened with a bang in Rhos-on-Sea.

Jennie Grimes, from Hickory's, which has restaurants in Chester and West Kirby, said: “Since opening we have been very busy and enjoyed a real honeymoon period.

“People who have come here have given us great feedback and they have also told us about some wonderful other places locally, like Signatures in Conwy and Pen-y-Bryn in Colwyn Bay.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/north-wales-becomes-foodie-favourite-6996723#rlabs=15 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/north-wales-becomes-foodie-favourite-6996723#rlabs=15)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 06, 2014, 08:37:50 pm
Made our debut at Hickory's Smokehouse today.... even on a Monday afternoon it was very busy.

It deserves to be, it is sensational.... loved it, and will return many times.
The decor is excellent, the service is first class, and the whole experience is authentic, a testament to the investment that has been made.

However, after all that Steak, Prawns, Ribs... and of course Beer.... I can hardly move, and I am of the opinion that all food should be BANNED now.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on October 06, 2014, 09:08:47 pm
all that pressure on your Knee , be ashamed you wreckless man
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 07, 2014, 08:30:31 am
Made our debut at Hickory's Smokehouse today.... even on a Monday afternoon it was very busy.

It deserves to be, it is sensational.... loved it, and will return many times.
The decor is excellent, the service is first class, and the whole experience is authentic, a testament to the investment that has been made.
It just shows how you can create a really successful business if you are prepared to invest enough. Hickorys is a first class dining experience.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 10, 2014, 04:06:20 pm
It this old news that I have missed:-
http://uk.businessesforsale.com/uk/search/Coffee-Shops-for-sale-in-Llandudno (http://uk.businessesforsale.com/uk/search/Coffee-Shops-for-sale-in-Llandudno)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 10, 2014, 04:18:36 pm
It must be, as it's been a while since Llandudno was in Clwyd.     You would have thought that they had checked their facts first
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 10, 2014, 05:12:32 pm
Was Llandudno ever in Clwyd?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2014, 05:45:44 pm
Was Llandudno ever in Clwyd?
No, the border was the line of the old Afon Ganol by Llandrillo College, I think.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on October 10, 2014, 08:07:08 pm
       You are absolutely correct Dave.R, I can remember in the days of the "prohibition", when Gwynedd (now Sir Conwy) was dry on a Sunday, going for a few pints on a Sunday night in "The Ship" (now Hickory's) in Rhos, or the  "Cross Keys" (now demolished), or "The Vale"  both in Glan Conwy when they were classified as Denbighshire, (before it was known as Clwyd) and then before that when Denbighshire was "dry" and Flintshire was "wet", travelling to the "Red Lion" in Llanasa for the live music then and back to Rhyl for a late meal, all this well before the days of the breathalyser of course, but being responsible citizens we always had a "designated driver", who drove his own vehlcle -----.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on October 10, 2014, 08:38:58 pm
  Even further back, head towards Chester (on the old roads of course) under the railway bridge in Saltney and, scream, brakes on and into the first pub on the left. In a foreign land, ale from a pub on Sunday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on October 10, 2014, 08:56:06 pm
   On this subject of drinking hours a very long time ago the area around Porthmadog to Pwllheli was the last to give in to Sunday drinking. But another, not so well known, restriction was that no alcohol was allowed to be sold after 9 p.m. on ANY day.
   In the 1950s tourists from England started arriving at, shall we say, Criccieth. They would wander into a pub at 09.10 p.m. and order drinks, the barman would say "I'm sorry. We are closed" and the visitors would apologise "Oh. Sorry.WE'll come back later."  They didn't realise that closed meant closed. Full stop.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on October 10, 2014, 09:47:42 pm
          I must apologise for the error in my previous post, of course it is "The Vale"  in Glan Conwy which is now demolished and not the "Cross Keys", which obviously is still trading. To follow on from Mike's latest post we once tried to get a pint in the British Legion in Porthmadog many years ago which was the only source of alcohol on a Sunday locally then, but they wouldn't serve us as we were members of the Legion in Llandudno (then Gwynedd) which was still "dry", and they said we didn't qualify!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 10, 2014, 10:07:39 pm
I have a memory from the late sixties of being on a boat (maybe St Trillo) sailing off from Llandudno Pier on a Sunday evening.

There was a live pop group onboard and when we were so far out the bar would open up to serve alcohol and stay open until we returned.

Maybe Gwynant or Mike can confirm these sailings.

 Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on October 10, 2014, 10:38:21 pm
                  Bri, I used to play drums in a band in the 60's, in fact one of my claims to fame is that I played in the Village Hall, Penrhyndeudraeth supporting "Them", ("Baby please don't go" and "Here comes the night"), who of course featured Van Morrison as lead singer and he joined us on stage. They were on their way from Belfast to London to seek fame and fortune at the time. We were booked to play several times on the M.V."Trillo" on a Sunday night and I can confirm that no alcohol was served until we had cast off from the Pier Head and it all had to be consumed by the time we tied up there again about 2 hours later. Happy days!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 11, 2014, 07:21:49 am
Thanks, Gwynant. $thanx$

I did not know you were so talented. $elvis$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on October 11, 2014, 03:06:50 pm
When P & A Campbell took over the St Trillo in 1963 they advertised "Every Sunday Evening - Music at Sea" with the St Trillo Trio (Music in the Modern Manner) on board.  I wonder if Gwynant was one of the trio ?!  The fare was six shillings (30p) and the boat left at 7.30pm bqck at 9pm.

Interestingly "Live Music in the Modern Manner" was still being advertised for the 1969 season and the fare still 6/-.  Amazing how prices remained so constant in the 60s.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on October 11, 2014, 03:41:17 pm
        No, Cambrian I was not a member of the St.Trillo Trio. The group I played in in the sixties was the standard 4 man line-up, consisting of lead, rhythm and bass guitars and me on drums. We were known as "The Publicans", and played all the local venues (Winter Gardens, Paynes, Colwyn Bay Pier etc., and in dance halls, village halls and pubs over the North Wales area in the 60's. I left when I got married and the group became known as the "Atlantic Sound" later.   
        I have many happy memories of those days, there were lots of groups about then in this area, the "Anglesey Strangers", "Cossacks", "Aristocrats" "The Jets" etc and I can also remember a local band called the "Motown Sect" which featured a certain Lemmy, later to form "Hawkwind" ("Silver machine") and then "Motorhead" being part of the local musical scene.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2014, 05:21:16 pm
We went for a lovely meal at the Cottage Loaf in Llandudno on Friday night. Mr. Fester had assured me it was fantastic, so I was keen to give it a try as I hadn't been to the Cottage Loaf since its former incarnation as a pub. What a transformation! It reminded me very much of the Queens Head, Glanwydden or the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay. Even in the early evening, it was pretty much full. There was a great menu, large portions and a very pleasant atmosphere. Highly recommended!

http://www.the-cottageloaf.co.uk/ (http://www.the-cottageloaf.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 12, 2014, 08:24:54 pm
Dave,  Fest knows Best... (sometimes).... glad you enjoyed it.  $good$


Gwynant!    Apart from the obvious fact that you packed it in because you got married.. (women put the mockers on everything don't they?) ..... you must know many local luminaries such as Phil Griffiths, and the GREAT BRIAN THOMAS!


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on October 12, 2014, 09:41:58 pm
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Gwynant!    Apart from the obvious fact that you packed it in because you got married.. (women put the mockers on everything don't they?) ..... you must know many local luminaries such as Phil Griffiths, and the GREAT BRIAN THOMAS
!

            Correct Fester, Brian was the rhythm guitarist in the band and Philly Griffiths took over from me on drums when I left to got married.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 13, 2014, 10:09:15 am
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Gwynant!    Apart from the obvious fact that you packed it in because you got married.. (women put the mockers on everything don't they?) ..... you must know many local luminaries such as Phil Griffiths, and the GREAT BRIAN THOMAS
!

            Correct Fester, Brian was the rhythm guitarist in the band and Philly Griffiths took over from me on drums when I left to got married.

Phil also has a cousin called Pete, also a drummer, was in the Motown Sect you mentioned for a bit as well as some other bands.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 13, 2014, 06:34:16 pm
Badgers seems to have closed. A handwritten notice on the door gives details.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 13, 2014, 07:02:49 pm
Think they have started in Starbucks,not sure what is or should i say is;nt going on in the Tudno Castle,with two definate tennants you would have thought a start would have been made.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 13, 2014, 07:45:12 pm
Badgers seems to have closed. A handwritten notice on the door gives details.

What a Sett back!    :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 14, 2014, 08:27:05 am
OMG-- What wit !!! _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 14, 2014, 04:11:32 pm
Have not the owners of beavers taken over the queen vic. And has not the beavers cafe been up for sale for a considerable length of time £150k ??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barney Baker on October 14, 2014, 09:25:04 pm
When I passed today I asked the Gent on the Little Newsagents in the Victorian Centre and he said that Badgers had gone in to liquidation yesterday (Monday) now that's going to hurt the coffers for the Vic centre
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 14, 2014, 11:08:51 pm
The name of a firm of insolvency practitioners was mentioned in the front door when I passed at lunchtime.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 15, 2014, 11:05:37 am
So they must have seen it coming. They bought into the Queen Vic and secured a manager position with Starbucks. The problem with that is unless it is done properly they can still be awarded an IPO. An insolvency Payment Order. This can be issued by the official receiver if he decides you have a reasonable income to live on. The queen vic and a manager position with Starbucks will suffice. The Vic is owned by marstons to do not encourage their tenants to register as limited company's . Let's hope they have done their homework.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 16, 2014, 07:24:20 am
Is the Snooze bar ever going to wakeup,i cannot believe how long it is taking.I believe the owner is from Angelsey.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 16, 2014, 07:25:22 am
however nothing can take as long as the Washington.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 16, 2014, 07:29:06 am
Just googled Badgers tearooms,third thing on the page was salmonella,i think this was the problem,how long ago was that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 16, 2014, 07:57:29 am
Is the Snooze bar ever going to wakeup,i cannot believe how long it is taking.I believe the owner is from Angelsey.
We had visitors last weekend, thought I would take them to the Snooze, then Taverna, very surprised to find the "New" bar closed.    &shake&                 not the best way to run a business .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2014, 08:50:36 am
however nothing can take as long as the Washington.
Work seems to have stopped on the Washington? All the scaffolding was removed, in the middle of painting the building...  ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 16, 2014, 09:42:36 am
Owner of snooze bar from angelsey. Wonder if his bus pass has expired
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2014, 09:49:46 am
Owner of snooze bar from angelsey. Wonder if his bus pass has expired
Considering the Parade was sold back in February, it would appear the owner is the one snoozing..

"10.02.2014 -The Parade public house in Llandudno for a sum in the region of £180,000 on behalf of Enterprise Inns plc to another local hotel and bar operator."
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 16, 2014, 05:32:13 pm
For Gwynant and all interested... behold, The Motown Sect, with Lemmy in the middle.
Formally the Rocking Ravens, according to the article?

The article listed the following members at that time, and has Lemmy's surname completely wrong)
Dave Semple    Drums
Kevin Smith    Drums (replaced Dave)
Stewart Steele    Guitar/vocals
Ian 'Lemmy' Willis    Guitar/vocals
Les Standing    Bass
Glyn (aka Glun)    Bass (replaced Les)

     



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 16, 2014, 05:57:07 pm
Anybody remember a local group called Dream Machine, 3 or 4 piece with a girl singer, early 80s?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 16, 2014, 06:06:34 pm
Award-winning Llandudno cafe bankrupt with loss of a dozen jobs

An award-winning Llandudno cafe has gone into liquidation with the loss of a dozen jobs.
Badgers Tearooms in the Victoria Centre closed its doors for the last time on Sunday afternoon, bringing to an end 17 years of service
“It’s the people who work there it affects more than anything,” said Robert Rutherford of Parkin S Booth Ltd, who are administering the company’s affairs.
One of the staff has been there since day one.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/award-winning-llandudno-cafe-bankrupt-loss-7948462 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/award-winning-llandudno-cafe-bankrupt-loss-7948462)

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139517/12-jobs-go-as-llandudno-victoria-centre-tearoom-closes-down.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139517/12-jobs-go-as-llandudno-victoria-centre-tearoom-closes-down.aspx)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 16, 2014, 08:29:58 pm
Lets hope Barry Badger may take it back on and get it to his high standard when he owned it,he knew how to run that place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 17, 2014, 08:32:16 am
Let's just say that 'Barry Badger' as you call him has enough problems with the failed Alice App.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2014, 09:07:20 am
Let's just say that 'Barry Badger' as you call him has enough problems with the failed Alice App.
Is it still not working?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 17, 2014, 01:09:24 pm
No. And where are the rest of the designated areas. Hearts are there, but where are the others.?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 17, 2014, 01:54:20 pm
No. And where are the rest of the designated areas. Hearts are there, but where are the others.?

With the rest of the pack.   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 17, 2014, 05:37:36 pm
No. And where are the rest of the designated areas. Hearts are there, but where are the others.?

These JOKERS need to PACK it in, SHUFFLE off, and DEAL with more important issues!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on October 17, 2014, 05:49:09 pm
No. And where are the rest of the designated areas. Hearts are there, but where are the others.?

These JOKERS need to PACK it in, SHUFFLE off, and DEAL with more important issues!  :laugh:


You need DECKing for that last post!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 17, 2014, 05:51:35 pm
You certainly call a SPADE a spade, SDQ.

You are a DIAMOND geezer, by the way.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on October 17, 2014, 06:35:44 pm
Ten out of thirteen have a spotty face, and the other three are no great pictures!

 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on October 18, 2014, 11:35:51 am
For Gwynant and all interested... behold, The Motown Sect, with Lemmy in the middle.
Formally the Rocking Ravens, according to the article?

     Nice nostalgic photo Fester, although the only one besides Lemmy that I can recognisein the photo is Glyn, (who was also known as Glunk, had a milk round and always had a collie dog wth him!).
    When Lemmy left the band to go to Manchester I can remember a lad from the Bay called Haydn Bannister took over as lead singer with the Motown Sect but he died very suddenly soon afterwards. I also seem to recall that Lemmy (Ian Kilmister?) was reportedly the son of a vicar or lay preacher and he got his nickname from asking everyone he met "lemmy a fiver till next week!"
    SteveH, I can't recall the "Dream Machine", have you got the names of any of the band members?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 18, 2014, 01:20:13 pm
Hi Gwynant,    Only name I remember is Tony (sully) Sullivan drummer... &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on October 18, 2014, 01:41:38 pm
Hi Gwynant,    Only name I remember is Tony (sully) Sullivan drummer... &shake&


He's a bit younger than the guys previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 18, 2014, 01:48:17 pm
Hi Gwynant,    Only name I remember is Tony (sully) Sullivan drummer... &shake&
He's a bit younger than the guys previously mentioned.

Think they played around 1985...?  I'm guessing early 60s..
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on October 18, 2014, 02:00:00 pm
Hi Gwynant,    Only name I remember is Tony (sully) Sullivan drummer... &shake&
He's a bit younger than the guys previously mentioned.

Think they played around 1985...?  I'm guessing early 60s..


What I mean is Lemmy is in his late 60s and Sully is early 50s so they played locally at very different times.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 18, 2014, 02:08:28 pm
Hi SDQ.. sorry getting my years mixed up, Sully wont be impressed with me getting his age wrong.... :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 18, 2014, 07:36:33 pm
Lemmy Kilmister died several years ago, but no one dared to tell him, so he is still just about fronting Motorhead.

They prop him up like 'El Cid', and Iam off to see him in Manchester on November 4th.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2014, 11:30:19 pm
Called into the Time Cafe Bar in Conwy for the first, er, 'time' today. Great place for lunch. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 20, 2014, 01:10:41 pm
Hickory's Smokehouse secures £6m investment to open 10 new restaurants

Hickory’s Smokehouse, which runs a highly successful restaurant in Rhos-on-Sea, has secured a £6m investment to open a further 10 restaurants.
Hickory’s, the American-style smokehouse and BBQ restaurant chain, was founded in 2010 by Neil McDonnell and currently operates from three sites in Chester, West Kirby and Rhos-on-Sea.
The site in Rhos has proved a huge success since opening in March and recently the firm said it would not rule out further expansion in the area.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/hickorys-smokehouse-secures-6m-investment-7964617 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/hickorys-smokehouse-secures-6m-investment-7964617)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2014, 01:42:51 pm
Hickory's Smokehouse secures £6m investment to open 10 new restaurants

Hickory’s Smokehouse, which runs a highly successful restaurant in Rhos-on-Sea, has secured a £6m investment to open a further 10 restaurants.
Hickory’s, the American-style smokehouse and BBQ restaurant chain, was founded in 2010 by Neil McDonnell and currently operates from three sites in Chester, West Kirby and Rhos-on-Sea.
The site in Rhos has proved a huge success since opening in March and recently the firm said it would not rule out further expansion in the area.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/hickorys-smokehouse-secures-6m-investment-7964617 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/hickorys-smokehouse-secures-6m-investment-7964617)
One on Anglesey would be very welcome.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 20, 2014, 02:12:26 pm
For Gwynant and all interested... behold, The Motown Sect, with Lemmy in the middle.
Formally the Rocking Ravens, according to the article?

     Nice nostalgic photo Fester, although the only one besides Lemmy that I can recognisein the photo is Glyn, (who was also known as Glunk, had a milk round and always had a collie dog wth him!).
    When Lemmy left the band to go to Manchester I can remember a lad from the Bay called Haydn Bannister took over as lead singer with the Motown Sect but he died very suddenly soon afterwards. I also seem to recall that Lemmy (Ian Kilmister?) was reportedly the son of a vicar or lay preacher and he got his nickname from asking everyone he met "lemmy a fiver till next week!"
    SteveH, I can't recall the "Dream Machine", have you got the names of any of the band members?

Very suddenly indeed, he killed himself. Very sad. I think Terry Bainam was in the band at that time, he died as well a few years ago on holiday
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2014, 11:32:24 am
Work is well underway on the new Starbucks at 1 Mostyn Street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 22, 2014, 11:42:31 pm
Took Dave's advice and ventured to Time Bar and Cafe in Conwy for lunch.

It really is excellent, and deserves to do very well.   I had a very satisfying omelette, and an expertly prepared salad, plus the standard of the filter coffee was as good as I have ever had.

The owners are the same family who own the Manor Hotel in Llandudno,  (and formerly Manor Fine Foods), they tell me that the hotel is fully booked next week. 
On the basis of what we had to eat, the Time Bar deserves to be fully booked too!   $good$ $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 23, 2014, 09:05:25 am
Took Dave's advice
Always a wise move...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 03, 2014, 11:56:36 am
Both the Cambridge Mostyn Restaurant in Mostyn Street and the Olive Grove Coffee Shop in Deganwy are up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2014, 03:53:16 pm
Big news on the Parade come Snooze bar,still fast asleep.
 :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on November 06, 2014, 05:31:21 pm
An application has gone in for a tapas bar in the old HSBC bank building, Conwy. The fact is do we need more eateries in Conwy ? Perhaps a bit different from the norm, so wish them well all the same.

On the other hand Baravellie's chocolate heaven have opened in Bangor Road so bang goes my pre Christmas diet!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 09, 2014, 06:38:12 pm
Well we say good bye to Dr Jonses,i really enjoyed the music but as Fester said it is to become a restaurant,Portugese not Indian.Apparently the old navel club is Micks next target as a music venue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 10, 2014, 12:16:46 pm
Well we say good bye to Dr Jonses,i really enjoyed the music but as Fester said it is to become a restaurant,Portugese not Indian.Apparently the old navel club is Micks next target as a music venue.

Good venue  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2014, 12:38:27 pm
Mr. B's Restaurant (next to the old Fat Cat) is still up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 10, 2014, 03:57:09 pm
Mr. B's Restaurant (next to the old Fat Cat) is still up for sale.

.... I watched them emptying it of furniture the other day, such a shame, a short lived venture.  &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2014, 09:49:12 am
We went to the Cottage Loaf for a meal last night. Once again, fantastic food and service in a very pleasant environment. Very reminiscent of the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay. Do be sure to book if you're thinking of going, it gets very busy indeed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 13, 2014, 10:06:34 am
I walked in on Saturday lunchtime without a booking and couldn't get a table for four - it really is one of the nicer places to eat in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on November 13, 2014, 11:31:15 am
Who actually removed the furniture out of mr B s was it the owner or the receiver / insolvency practitioner
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2014, 11:57:38 am
Mr. B's Restaurant (next to the old Fat Cat) is still up for sale.

.... I watched them emptying it of furniture the other day, such a shame, a short lived venture.
It is a shame, just the type of restaurant needed in Llandudno especially Upper Mostyn St., lets hope somebody takes it over soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 13, 2014, 04:00:43 pm
St Davids has tweeted,147 taken out of the equation,sold quietley,shhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2014, 04:04:38 pm
Had a few drinks in Osbourne House this afternoon, such a classy venue, a real credit to the town.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 13, 2014, 10:02:12 pm
afternoon drinking ,how the other half live
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 13, 2014, 11:59:16 pm
We went to the new Champagne Bar in Deganwy,  (called Prohibition).
It's owned by the same people as Characters.

Spent a pretty penny in there, and then on the The Castle Hotel in Conwy, where another few banknotes notes were deposited over the bar!

We only had enough left to afford The Archway fish and chips in Conwy, but it was as excellent as ever (I think??)  ZXZ Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 14, 2014, 08:34:43 am
 :o :o :o
Bread and scrape for the rest of this week????? ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 14, 2014, 09:34:51 am
Prohibition seems good, but you're right it's not cheap! Easy to run up a £50 drinks bill alone.

That said the place is pretty nice, very art-deco. They could do with a more extensive cocktail list though, I would have thought a White Russian would have been a standard but they didn't serve it.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 14, 2014, 10:06:01 am
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Easy to run up a £50 drinks bill alone.

Maybe you should take a few friends with you next time, Tom?    WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2014, 10:25:25 am
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Easy to run up a £50 drinks bill alone.

Maybe you should take a few friends with you next time, Tom?   
Very good.. L0L......mind you I was surprised..a reporter paying for drinks.. :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 14, 2014, 10:32:15 am
They didn't have a press night so I was considering boycotting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2014, 11:03:56 am
They didn't have a press night so I was considering boycotting.
:D      Standing up for the FREEdom of the press      $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2014, 01:13:59 pm
Prohibition,nice idea for Deganwy but what a shame Llandudno has no buisness people who can give us a champagne bar,can;t say i will travel by taxi to a champers bar,i dare say i would use one in town yet we can;t get any investers,rent i dare say
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2014, 03:27:56 pm
Prohibition,nice idea for Deganwy but what a shame Llandudno has no buisness people who can give us a champagne bar,can;t say i will travel by taxi to a champers bar,i dare say i would use one in town yet we can;t get any investers,rent i dare say
I can't see a Champagne Bar in Deganwy will last very long. Maybe an Ovaltine Bar would have been a better idea?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2014, 04:41:17 pm
Llandudno has become the dead town,full of Ovaltines im afraid.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 15, 2014, 05:18:33 pm
Very busy in town today, lots of traffic, shops and cafes full of people...spoke to one shop owner I know, he was over the moon with his takings, so I hope every one else had a good day.







Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 15, 2014, 05:57:25 pm
Prohibition,nice idea for Deganwy but what a shame Llandudno has no buisness people who can give us a champagne bar,can;t say i will travel by taxi to a champers bar,i dare say i would use one in town yet we can;t get any investers,rent i dare say
I can't see a Champagne Bar in Deganwy will last very long. Maybe an Ovaltine Bar would have been a better idea?

High margins, and high-flyers from the Deganwy Quay houses, i.e. the yachting set.  It was very busy, and 'might' do OK.
I noticed a lot of people in there who looked affluent,  you know the type.... sweaters worn over the shoulders with sleeves tied around the neck!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 17, 2014, 12:42:26 pm
Prohibition is a ruddy stupid name for a bar. like calling a Restaurant 'Hunger strike'
Looks nice in there though  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 17, 2014, 06:09:31 pm
When i said town was dead i meant for the young people of Llandudno,not the shops
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 17, 2014, 06:19:23 pm
The Jai ho Indian restaurant in Deganwy is superb, the food is Indian fine dining at it's best. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 17, 2014, 08:06:00 pm
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High margins, and high-flyers from the Deganwy Quay houses, i.e. the yachting set.  It was very busy, and 'might' do OK.
I noticed a lot of people in there who looked affluent,  you know the type.... sweaters worn over the shoulders with sleeves tied around the neck!

To cover the holes in their shirts you mean! :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2014, 05:39:30 pm
Cafe Culture in Conwy is up for sale at £235k.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on November 19, 2014, 06:18:38 pm
Well we wonder why .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2014, 08:49:29 am
Work on Starbucks at 1 Mostyn Street is well advanced, I think it will be opening within the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2014, 08:54:00 am
Had coffee with family in the Imperial Hotel yesterday afternoon. The service there is great, the views from the Lounge are fantastic, it's well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 20, 2014, 09:25:45 am
Starbucks is opening tomorrow at 12pm I believe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2014, 09:52:24 am
Starbucks is opening tomorrow at 12pm I believe.
Thanks for the info, Tom.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on November 20, 2014, 02:24:53 pm
Starbucks is opening tomorrow at 12pm I believe.
Thanks for the info, Tom.  $good$

First customer, DaveR?  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2014, 04:17:12 pm
Starbucks is opening tomorrow at 12pm I believe.
Thanks for the info, Tom.  $good$

First customer, DaveR?  ;D
What do you mean, customer? I'm cutting the red tape!  :laugh:  :laugh:  $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2014, 04:46:10 pm
You and Janet Finch
 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 20, 2014, 04:58:06 pm
Hope this works...no sorry...can you please delete one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2014, 06:00:38 pm
It wouldn't be the first time I've got caught up in red tape, Steve.  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2014, 06:10:24 pm
You and Oscar lol
 _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dwsi on November 20, 2014, 06:27:10 pm
DaveR's guide of Llandudno coffee establishments will need updating  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2014, 04:59:45 pm
DaveR's guide of Llandudno coffee establishments will need updating  8)
I'm on the case...  :laugh:

Starbucks was heaving all day today, queues to the door most times.

We fancied a decent full breakfast this morning, so headed to the Inglenook Cafe on Vaughan Street. The full breakfast is £6, and includes toast and tea/coffee. Great ingredients and cooked well, I'd highly recommend it.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: andyCYD on November 23, 2014, 08:04:28 am
The fish and chip shop in Victoria Street, Craig y Don has reopened. Nice young couple have taken it on. Seem to be offering the standard stuff, although I did notice hagis on the menu.

The have called it Chish and Fips. They have a Facebook page.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2014, 10:17:50 am
Good to see that chip shop reopened, it's a good addition to Craig Y Don.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2014, 10:20:10 am
Went to La Taverna for Dinner last night, another excellent meal, lasagne was superb!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2014, 05:55:41 pm
We popped into the new Starbucks this morning. Once again, I was amazed at how busy it was. They already have a real problem with the lack of space within the premises, as the layout of the tables in the window areas is very cramped.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2014, 09:56:17 am
The former Mr Bs Bistro in Upper Mostyn Street is now up for rent at £20,000 a year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 28, 2014, 09:25:45 pm
The former Mr Bs Bistro in Upper Mostyn Street is now up for rent at £20,000 a year.

When it was Pars Restaurant previously, the owner told me that he paid £16k PA in rent,  rents should not be going up in this difficult times.  &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 29, 2014, 10:41:58 am
Had Lunch in the Olive Grove in Deganwy yesterday, a lovely little Coffee Shop & Deli. Hope the new owners will carry on in the same vein.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 29, 2014, 10:46:02 am
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Hope the new owners will carry on in the same vein


Vampire pie, perhaps?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 29, 2014, 10:50:54 am
 _))*  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 30, 2014, 09:57:24 am
Fester im not sure when im going and you know i can;t reply on that thread,nice try.I will call up anytime you like,cheers.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 30, 2014, 09:49:27 pm
Fester im not sure when im going and you know i can;t reply on that thread,nice try.I will call up anytime you like,cheers.

It was a joke mate. we don't want you going anywhere!    You are too precious to us!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 01, 2014, 06:47:47 am
Iknow Fester,im only going when he takes me,but im relying on you now to sort out the lights,ive let them win ,ha
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 03, 2014, 02:12:08 pm
Planning notice near the old Vollams for another eating place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on December 04, 2014, 12:23:55 pm
Other than Fast food places, Craigside or Wetherspoons, is there anywhere locally  anyone can recommend where you can have a decent lunch for around a tenner for two people - excluding the usual sandwich and coffee that you can get at most places?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on December 04, 2014, 12:45:39 pm
St Davids Hospice,  Cafe Dewi.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 04, 2014, 01:02:35 pm
Planning notice near the old Vollams for another eating place.

Mr Ali...A restaurant and take away in what appears to be the old Vollams shop.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 04, 2014, 01:12:11 pm
Good position close to the new Travelodge.

A takeaway therr will do well especially if it stays open late.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 04, 2014, 04:47:26 pm
Links hotel,two for a tenner,nice too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on December 04, 2014, 06:26:58 pm
Thank you wrex and Yorkie
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 08, 2014, 05:52:37 pm
Apparently Nando;s is definetly coming into town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 11, 2014, 09:03:03 am
Sounds like the thieves went to a lot of trouble for nothing.  &shake& I'm amzed that the Post don't know that the lake is called 'Llyn Elsi', not 'Elsie Lake' either.

Llandudno cafe's stolen cannons discovered at the bottom of a lake
Dec 11, 2014 07:00 By David Powell

The ornaments were taken from the Rest and Be Thankful Cafe, but are due to be returned after an angler found them in Elsie Lake, Betws y Coed

The stolen cannons which were found in a lake and returned to the Rest & Be Thankful cafe on Llandudno's Great OrmeThe stolen cannons which were found in a lake and returned to the Rest & Be

But an angler found them poking out of the water in a dry spell and now they’re set to be returned to the Rest & Be Thankful Cafe on Llandudno’s Great Orme.

Joint cafe owner Dave Kilpatrick said: “I’m delighted to have them back.

“They were stolen four and a half years ago and I thought I’d never see them again. I’m always being asked by customers if there’s any news of them.”

 
A previous Rest and Be Thankful cafe owner Frank Gorka bought the reproduction cannons in 1998 to add to the dramatic hilltop setting.

It’s thought they had been swiped to order or for scrap to be melted down.

After their sudden disappearance in February, 2010, he said: “It is an awful thing to happen.”

He had thought that they may have been taken to be cleaned but then realised criminals had struck.

He ran the eatery until Dave Kilpatrick and his brother it took over eight years ago.

He said: “They’d been bolted down on concrete plinths facing out to sea and used to have model soldiers standing next to them.

“Four years and a half years after they were stolen I got a phone call from the police saying they’d been found in a lake near Betws y Coed.

“They’d been dumped because the thieves couldn’t get rid of them. I had to identify them.”

Mr Kilpatrick believes it was an angler who found them and reported the find to police.

He and a partner have been given a free stay in his brother’s nearby B&B The Lighthouse on Great Orme’s Head as a thank you for their honesty.

The cannons were black and gilded but now look in a sorry state after about four years underwater.

Said Mr Kilpatrick: “They will be restored then go back in situ in the New Year.”

The cannons are currently in storage at his home in the Llandudno area.

The extremely heavy cast iron curiosities had been bolted to concrete blocks at the Llandudno beauty spot.

In 2010, North Wales Police had said the perpetrators had used bolt cutters to release the 3ft cannons from their fastenings.

It would need at least two people just to lift the cannons.

Officers said the cannons were distinctive, because they also had Spanish writing along the barrels.

Today, Sian and Tony Godbert and daughters Kimberly and Katie, who live in the Betws y Coed area, said they had spotted the cannons in nearby Elsie Lake.

Mrs Godbert said: “They had been thrown off the middle of the dam into the lake. A river keeper Peter Pugh found them with us and helped winch them up.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-cafes-stolen-cannons-discovered-8267933 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-cafes-stolen-cannons-discovered-8267933)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 11, 2014, 12:25:12 pm
I'm really pleased to hear the news that the cannons had been recovered as the cafe owners have gone to a lot of trouble to make the place so nice.   They were a popular attraction and many visitors and locals alike used to have their photos taken next to the soldiers and cannons and the objects were so well know that it would not be possible for crooks to dispose of them locally without being caught out.
From the location where they were found it seems that the low life perpetrators must have from the Conwy County area
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on December 11, 2014, 12:37:58 pm
As an Arsenal fan I'm very pleased
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2014, 09:13:58 pm
How to prevent them getting nicked again though??      Bolted on to concrete wasn't enough!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on December 15, 2014, 06:35:58 pm
A party of eight of us went to the restaurant in the Queen Vic on Church Walk, for their Christmas menu. Everything we were served was first class and we will certainly be going back to give it a second go in the New Year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 18, 2014, 04:00:25 pm
Local cafe owner with may be taking over Badgers in the new year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2014, 04:18:47 pm
The new Costa in Conwy:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 20, 2014, 08:10:27 am
Interestingly, Signatures has emailed all its members to let them know there are still vacancies on the 22nd, but their website states they're closed on the Monday. It's all a little confused.  Two emails have been sent out.  The first states:

"MONDAY 23rd DEC- BOOKINGS STILL AVAILABLE!"

and that was followed, 29 minutes later, by the second:

"MONDAY 22nd DEC- BOOKINGS STILL AVAILABLE!"

This is the first I'd heard about them being open this coming Monday. Curious.

The other issue is that their website is misleading:

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 20, 2014, 08:12:50 am
I'd imagine that you might have the place pretty much to yourself if you fancy fine dining tomorrow. Shows how simple mistakes can cause a business a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 20, 2014, 09:46:02 am
Ian, I also received the same e-mails.

if you click on View Xmas Menu Here  further down, not only will you see the menus but also the opening days in December.

http://signaturesrestaurant.co.uk/resources/downloads/signatures-xmas-menu14.pdf (http://signaturesrestaurant.co.uk/resources/downloads/signatures-xmas-menu14.pdf)

The menus look very attractive.

Shame about the error on dates.  :-}}}
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 20, 2014, 10:07:38 am
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if you click on View Xmas Menu Here further down, not only will you see the menus but also the opening days in December.

They are attractive, beyond doubt. But they need to think about web site presentation. It shouldn't be necessary to follow a link to Menus to find the opening days, when they're displayed (albeit incorrectly)  on the main site page along with the little Xmas logos. And the second email ought to have alerted the recipients to the fact that there was an error in the first. These are little things, but they can lose businesses a lot of money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 21, 2014, 03:41:25 am
Ian, while I totally agree with what you say about an accurate and updated website presence but have you ever visited http://www.johnevanscomedian.co.uk/ (http://www.johnevanscomedian.co.uk/) ?

Now there is an example of a website belonging to a comedian with local connections, who is so funny and popular, that he hasn’t found a need to update his website for many years.

I wonder if it is the same with Signatures?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 21, 2014, 08:08:56 am
It's amazing how many allow their websites to become outdated. Even major organisations are guilty. In Signature's case, I suspect the website is done by someone there, and it's very easy to leave something in place and not even see it yourself when you've designed it. That's one reason why the best web site designers always work in teams of two, so one can do the proof reading. We like the place and I think it's good for the area, so when we received the two emails, with conflicting information which wasn't quickly clarified by the website I was concerned, because that could lose them business.

Now, all this reminds me that there's a site I've left an incorrect address on...  :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on December 21, 2014, 03:42:23 pm
If anyone is interested Costa Coffee, Castle Street, Conwy will be opening 10am Monday 22nd December.  ££$  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on December 21, 2014, 09:34:27 pm
Not really one for going out of town to eat,plenty of choice in town ,even a few i have not tried like the Tudno but im sure plenty come into town for their favorite restaurants.I think my problem is i like to have a drink in town after the meal and don;t really want to drive or get a taxi but i know maybe when i get a bit older having a drink might not be a priority lol,lets hope signatures stays around that long.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 21, 2014, 11:28:59 pm
Wrex, we have been twice now to St Tudno Hotel, for the early evening £20 menu.... it's superb to be honest.
Fine dining in every respect.

However, we have been to Watson's Bistro in Conwy tonight,  for the THIRD time in 10 days..... it was absolutely superb as always, and it rightly deserves it's No 1 rating on Trip Advisor.
Title: Tips
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 11, 2015, 08:46:44 am
What is the general consensus of opinion on leaving a gratuity in a café of restaurant, I generally have always left in the region of 10%.
However these days with rising prices and the minimum wage I am beginning to wonder if there is any longer any point unless I have received excellent service as opposed to a standard service. 
I also prefer to leave the gratuity in cash and not adding it on to a debit card transaction.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Hugo on January 11, 2015, 11:11:39 am
I generally tip around the 10% mark and carry cash for the tip as some places will not include the tip in the card transaction.   The staff are probably on a minimum wage so they would appreciate any tips you give.   Again though, it depends on the service you receive, if you are not satisfied with the service then why would you tip any one.  Again if the service is excellent then you can be more generous than normal.
It's up to the individual on how much they tip or can afford to tip but any amount would be gratefully received by the person receiving the tip.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Fester on January 11, 2015, 03:12:09 pm
10% is around my average, but it depends on the type of business I am in.

For example, I leave a tip in places like Kava, as it is a stand alone business,  but never think to tip in Caffe Nero for example, as they are an international chain.   (Poor staff still on minimum wage though)

There are some (local) establishments which are renowned for NOT passing the tips on to staff, but keeping them for the owner instead.   I never tip in those places.  (The Groes Inn is an example)
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2015, 09:15:13 am
I tip purely on the basis of whether I receive good service or not.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: hollins on January 12, 2015, 10:09:19 am
Yes, me too and usually work out 10% as this is easier to calculate for my poor non mathematical brain.
However I always remember having breakfast in New York with a work colleague. We got up to leave and before we got to the door we were stopped by the waitress and asked to pay the 14% service charge.
Not keen on the places that add an "optional" service charge automatically because then you would have to explain why you felt you shouldn't pay it!
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Ian on January 12, 2015, 10:12:14 am
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before we got to the door we were stopped by the waitress and asked to pay the 14% service charge.

Typical New York, where good service is measured by the number of pieces your plate is in when dumped on your table :-)) Seriously, New York offers the widest range of service I know of.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: mull on January 12, 2015, 09:54:11 pm
Has anyone seen a reason for a "Service Charge".

Whenever I have seen it on the menu I have got up and walked out.

I do not mind tipping at 10+% for good service but refuse to pay for the what should be part of the service.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Ian on January 13, 2015, 07:22:54 am
I thought I knew the answer to that one, so I checked (to make sure) and was rather surprised by what I found...

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Cash tips are paid to individual employees, while credit card tips are paid to the restaurant. When it comes to the “service charge”, the situation remains opaque. That money is classed as part of the eatery’s income, to be used as the restaurateur sees fit. According to the British Hospitality Association, there is no legal requirement for it to pass on any of the service charge, in full or part, to the waiting staff.

What’s more, the service charge delivers a double blow, as while many employees do not benefit from it directly, its presence on a restaurant bill puts off many diners from leaving a cash tip on top (many simply think it is the same as a tip)

Fairly recently, Andrew Percy, the Conservative MP for Brigg and Goole, has called for a change in the law that would allow restaurant staff to determine how tips are shared. The current situation is a mess, with different 'rules' being applied by different places.

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According to the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS), which drew up the voluntary code on tips, diners are often confused by the distinction between service charges, tips, gratuities and cover charges. A service charge, according to the code, is an amount added to your bill before it is given to you and is almost always based on a percentage of the bill. If it is “discretionary” or “suggested” you are free to make the payment or not.
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A tip, or gratuity, on the other hand is a voluntary payment given over and above the amount of the bill (and, believe it or not, any service charge) as a “personal reward” from you to waiting staff.

If you want to ensure your tip or service charge actually reaches the waiters, you need to pay any 'service charge' in cash, 

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In theory, one of two things will then happen: either your server will pocket the money directly or, if there is a pooled-tips system in place, such gratuities should (so that they’re not liable for national insurance deductions) be collected and distributed by the “troncmaster”, a nominated non-management employee. Therefore, management should not be able to intervene to levy any “administration charge”.

So no easy answers, other than possibly to tip the actual waiter in cash.

Quotes from the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/sep/29/how-much-should-i-tip-etiquette-tipping-service-charges) and Andrew Percy MP

Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Hugo on January 13, 2015, 02:42:29 pm
I found that very interesting Ian because if you include the tip in with your card payment then it will appear as an income and the staff may not receive the intended money.
Some businesses have a Troncmaster who will see to tips and service charges and they distribute the money designated for the staff.
NIM02942 – Tips, gratuities and service charges: Tronc arrangements:

However when I have been abroad on holidays I've seen tips given to the Head Waiter to distribute amongst the staff but from experience I'm slightly cynical and make sure that I give the money personally to each individual and then I know that my tips have reached the person that it's intended for.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Fester on January 13, 2015, 02:43:17 pm
Has anyone seen a reason for a "Service Charge".

Whenever I have seen it on the menu I have got up and walked out.

I do not mind tipping at 10+% for good service but refuse to pay for the what should be part of the service.

Mull, I can imagine you must be a real joy to go out for a meal with!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 14, 2015, 10:11:22 am
The former Badgers cafe in the Victoria Centre will be reopening as 'Love To Eat'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 14, 2015, 10:39:48 am
Love to eat badgers? An unusual name!  L0L
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mikethewatch on January 14, 2015, 10:51:01 am
Love to eat badgers? An unusual name!  L0L

Wonder if they will have a sett menu ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 14, 2015, 11:09:24 am
 :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 14, 2015, 11:45:24 am
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 14, 2015, 12:00:55 pm
 $donald$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 14, 2015, 01:08:09 pm
Has anybody read the job advert in the outside windows?
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: mull on January 14, 2015, 04:07:59 pm
Just do not like being ripped off, Still enjoy going out for a good meal.

Why do we let them get away with it ?

If Tesco, ASDA,Aldi or Lidl tried to put a percentage on your bill (for providing a service), I am sure most people would start shopping somwhere else.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 14, 2015, 05:39:53 pm
Fester has just reminded me about the new Portugese Restaurant on Upper Mostyn Street, it looks amateurish beyond belief.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Barney Baker on January 14, 2015, 06:47:20 pm
Good job it was called Badgers before and not beavers otherwise there would all manner of innuendo on this page :o :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 14, 2015, 08:25:53 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: white rabbit on January 15, 2015, 07:45:40 pm
The new Portuguese restarant in Upper Mostyn St sounds like a typical Portuguese restaraunt and will probably be very good :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 15, 2015, 08:09:39 pm
Just been stood outside the Portugese,paint all over the windows,actual glass is filthy and the inside is so bare,does not look inviting at all,but i hope i have got the wrong impression and it works out for them,time will tell.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 15, 2015, 08:36:36 pm
The new Portuguese restarant in Upper Mostyn St sounds like a typical Portuguese restaraunt and will probably be very good :)

Errr.... No.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 16, 2015, 06:58:13 am
It looks like somebody thinks if you put the word cafe in the window you are going to make money and that would be right if they had no competition but in such a cafe riddled st you have to be the best to survive and first impressions its got no chance.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on January 16, 2015, 11:11:47 am
As this new place is Portuguese, I will mosey along and give it the once over.  Surprised that it is, or looks, dirty as the Portuguese are very clean people.  The dirty ones one actually sees in Portugal are generally run by ex-pats from the UK who think we all want a "greasy spoon" cafe when we are on holiday.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 16, 2015, 11:48:39 am
Just been stood outside the Portugese,paint all over the windows,actual glass is filthy and the inside is so bare,does not look inviting at all,but i hope i have got the wrong impression and it works out for them,time will tell.

Just had a look, after the comments made here. Not impressed !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on January 16, 2015, 01:28:56 pm
Has it got a Hygiene Certificate from the Council yet?   ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 16, 2015, 04:12:02 pm
Mr Paul Blanchard, late of Home Cooking has bought Cafe Culture in Conwy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on January 16, 2015, 04:21:50 pm
Re the Portuguese Cafe.

Had a look this afternoon and not the least bit impressed.  The place looked shabby with absolutely no atmosphere, very dark inside and nothing to encourage one to enter.  The "menu" on a piece of A4 tucked inside an excercise book plastic folder did little to inspire me or the Mrs.  Whilst the menu was in Portuguese we did not notice any "typical" Portuguese offerings.  One staple dish of Portugal, Frango Piri-piri, was conspicuous by its absence, (thats Chicken with Piri-piri).  We also regarded the prices as being on the high side for the dishes on offer.  As much as we like Portuguese food there will need to be major changes before we go over the threshold! 
 ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 16, 2015, 04:54:04 pm
I also meant to say that the Prohibition bar is owned by the people who run Characters tea room in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 16, 2015, 09:59:34 pm
As this new place is Portuguese, I will mosey along and give it the once over.  Surprised that it is, or looks, dirty as the Portuguese are very clean people.  The dirty ones one actually sees in Portugal are generally run by ex-pats from the UK who think we all want a "greasy spoon" cafe when we are on holiday.
 ZXZ

I think you will find that there are NO Portuguese people involved in this venture............  an Eastern European chap that I know is involved, plus his girlfriend has been seen within.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 16, 2015, 10:21:57 pm
I saw it this afternoon, looked like Stevie Wonder had painted it, as for the windows.... About as inviting as an abotoir!  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 17, 2015, 04:48:25 pm
Our neighbour recommended a cafe that we didn't even know existed in Llandudno and on Thursday my wife and a friend paid a visit to the Rabbit Hole in Trinity Square and they really enjoyed the meal there.  She liked everything about the place and today insisted on taking me there.
The place is a delight to visit, it is very tastefully themed and spotless inside.   I enjoyed a delicious Tuna melt pasta while my wife had a spicy bean casserole which she also thoroughly enjoyed.
It's well worth a visit and we'll be back there soon and I've seen something on the menu that I'll have next time,       $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 17, 2015, 05:16:11 pm
I've walked past a few times of a lunchtime and must say it looks lovely there, I shall have to try it out soon.
The Imperial Hotel serve a nice lunch , especially if you manage to get a window table, I took the family there over the Christmas break.
We are on the whole quite lucky to have so many choices in the area I feel.

Anybody been to the Queen's Head lately?
I'm told it has been for sale for a while now, the owners have done a grand job over the years.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 17, 2015, 06:06:27 pm
Queen's Head?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on January 17, 2015, 06:33:02 pm
Queen's Head?


Glanwydden
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on January 17, 2015, 07:26:37 pm

The Imperial Hotel serve a nice lunch , especially if you manage to get a window table, ...............

Last time I went it tasted a bit woody, but at least the four of us did get a leg each!    _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 22, 2015, 11:41:54 pm
Yorkie texted me today, and reminded me about Burn's Night, and asked if I had got some Haggis in.
I hadn't, although I do like that lovely, spicy, meaty treat!

So tonight, Mrs F and I were down in town wondering where to go for a meal, and for some strange reason we found ourselves in Wetherspoon's having a quick drink while we decided.   
Looking around, we saw posters for Burn's Night food, and looking at the plates being delivered, it looked delicious.

To cut a long story short, I ordered the Highland Chicken Burger, (it was a choice between Beef and Chicken), and when it arrived it was a full Chicken breast, topped with salad, a pile of Haggis, Onion Rings, etc... and accompanied by Whiskey Sauce and a portion of Chips.   To go with it, I had an Isle of Jura single malt..... the whole lot £7.09.
An absolute bargain.   There were many other varieties of food , whiskey's etc involved in the Scottish offer.

Mrs F had Haggis, Neeps and Tatties..... and that was priced at £2.49     

This offer ends on Sunday night, (Burn's Night), but I will be going again before it's gone.... it really was excellent.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yorkie on January 23, 2015, 08:29:09 am
Didn't make too deep a hole in your Sporran then?    _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2015, 08:51:39 am
This offer ends on Sunday night, (Burn's Night), but I will be going again before it's gone.... it really was excellent.
Perhaps they have had the microwave serviced?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2015, 11:56:47 am
Don't knock it til you've tried it..... and I'm trying it again..... tonight!  ZXZ $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on January 23, 2015, 12:24:16 pm
Sold your soul to that thing in your profile picture!
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: born2run on January 23, 2015, 12:45:05 pm
There isn't a personal service as such in a supermarket though, even less with self service check outs.

I was in Home Bargains in Colwyn Bay yesterday and the cashier was having a very loud chat with the other cashier two tills away!
she scanned my items broke from her convo  to say "£6.80" and that was it! went back to conversing with the other 'employee' Didn't say another word, no please, thank you, nothing.


Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2015, 12:54:21 pm
There isn't a personal service as such in a supermarket though, even less with self service check outs.

I was in Home Bargains in Colwyn Bay yesterday and the cashier was having a very loud chat with the other cashier two tills away!
she scanned my items broke from her convo  to say "£6.80" and that was it! went back to conversing with the other 'employee' Didn't say another word, no please, thank you, nothing.

On the wages they earn B2R?   I'm amazed they didn't roll out the red carpet for you, scatter it with rose petals... and have your limo brought round to the door!
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: born2run on January 23, 2015, 04:41:33 pm
You shouldn't need to be on high wages to know how to say please and thank you Fester  :o

People should still take pride in whatever job they do and do it to there utmost ability. No excuse for rudeness or laziness.
Title: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2015, 10:38:40 pm
This is a thread for members to throw ideas in for new businesses, or anything they would like to see that would benefit this area in terms of employment, tourism or recreation.

We all moan about things closing down, or there being too many coffee shops, charity shops etc.... so being more positive, what would YOU like to see?
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: snowcap on January 24, 2015, 12:04:43 am
can you start the ball rolling with your thoughts of how things could improve.?
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Ian on January 24, 2015, 08:26:40 am
I think a reintroduction of the trams would be an enormous asset to the place. Instead of being routed through Mostyn Street, however, I'd route them along the prom.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: bigbadhenry on January 24, 2015, 09:20:34 am
More use made of the pier, day trips to IOM and Anglesey etc.

The problem is where do the boats come from??? 
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2015, 11:04:31 am
can you start the ball rolling with your thoughts of how things could improve.?

Yes Bri,  I would LOVE to see one or two decent class wine bars in Llandudno.   Having spent time in Chester, Leeds and Manchester recently, there were fantastic cocktail bars such as The Alchemist and The Botanist, plus a whole host of privately owned ones in every town.
I would like to see one in Llandudno, and another at West Shore.
Just imagine, The Sundowner's bar at West Shore, where you can have sit on the balcony watching the sunset over the estuary, over a bottle of wine.   It would have to be pretty big.... because it would be PACKED.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: hollins on January 24, 2015, 11:30:22 am
Agree with that one Fester. I would also like to be able to eat a meal with super fresh fish and seafood looking out on to a view like the West Shore one. Seahorse type food without the dodgy decor please!
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: andyCYD on January 24, 2015, 12:44:06 pm
The cafes and bars at the end of the pier and top of the Orme are currently poor.  These are unique locations on a global scale, and surely there should be scope for something much better. I don't know who owns them or why they don't improve them.

The West Shore is crying out for improvement. The current cafe is a bit disappointing. I would not want to see amusement arcades, but I think there is great scope to promote water sports, cycling and general beach going. It is a complete mystery to me why the Llandudno does not market itself as the resort with two beaches, or why there is such an outcry about the North shore when we have a great sandy beach less than half a mile away.

The Grand Hotel needs to tidied up, externally. I would suggest this is more important than developing the old Pavilion site as the hotel is a real eye-sore and in such a prominent location, whilst the hole in the ground is far less visible.

There must be scope to use the current coach park behind Parc Llandudno better.  It is empty most of the time.  Equally, a park and ride scheme would be great for Llandudno, certainly at certain times.

I am sure more could be made of the paddling pool at Craig y Don. Perhaps this will happen when the lifeboat station is built.

I think the Premier Inn, along with the planned restaurants is going to make a positive contribution. It will certainly shake things up a bit. I can see some businesses losing out, but they will be the ones that have not been making the effort over recent years.

Trams would be a great feature, but I am not sure they would be much practical use unless they linked Llandudno with Colwyn Bay.  Given the cost I can't see them happening any time soon. 

Personally, I am not sure that boats using the pier would have much impact, and can't help feeling the £200k grant that was spent on the facility could have been better spent elsewhere. But I will be very happy to be proven wrong on that one.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: white rabbit on January 24, 2015, 08:10:39 pm
The coach park is used all the time dropping of and picking up day trippers but are not allowed to stay there all day so go and park elsewhere - I don't think it a aste of space
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: OrmeMac on January 24, 2015, 08:38:38 pm
I'd like to see the Pier tidied up and the lighting fixed. If I remember correctly there used to be lights strung all the way down both sides and maybe even across to central lamp posts which have all been taken away. It can be extremely dark at nights and really needs to be sorted out. Some of the lights look as though they are ready to topple into the sea!

The road train should be extended to run to/from the Craig Y Don paddling pool, up to the Pier entrance and then out to the West Shore.

All the ironwork outside the shops should be tidied up and reinstated as necessary plus glass roofing made mandatory to let the light through. Some shops have just filled it all in which makes for a very inconsistent and dull appearance.

The trams up the Orme should run into the evenings with sympathetic lighting installed in them if necessary.

Oh, and don't get me started about the sheer neglect of Halfre Gardens...
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Fester on January 25, 2015, 03:41:13 pm
I've said it before, and I'll keep on saying it.... Llandudno desperately needs a family leisure facility of some kind on the Pier Pavilion Site.
Some kind of Steel and Glass structure, designed sympathetically to how the Pavilion used to look, and incorporating bars, soft play areas, eateries, etc.....  (that list is endless)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on January 26, 2015, 10:19:04 am
Sad to see The Plough in Old Colwyn has closed. It never really took off after the extensive renovations more than six months ago.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 26, 2015, 10:59:59 am
We never visited the pub, I take it that the pub has closed?
Always sad to a closure, especially after an big investment has been made.
It all goes to show that it's still tough out there for a business to flourish.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on January 26, 2015, 11:09:36 am
Sad to see The Plough in Old Colwyn has closed. It never really took off after the extensive renovations more than six months ago.

That's a shame, I went early on and they had blaring dance music in there, not the sort of place for that.
Pubs in OC are very good, much better than Llandudno
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: born2run on January 26, 2015, 11:39:56 am
LASER QUEST
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: born2run on January 26, 2015, 11:42:35 am
Also cut the grass and make a few nice lawns! West Shore is a disgrace as if everywhere else!
except for Craig y Don but that is monopolised by the croquet set

Colwyn Bay has got it right in Erias park.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2015, 12:04:11 pm
I've said it before, and I'll keep on saying it.... Llandudno desperately needs a family leisure facility of some kind on the Pier Pavilion Site.
Some kind of Steel and Glass structure, designed sympathetically to how the Pavilion used to look, and incorporating bars, soft play areas, eateries, etc.....  (that list is endless)
That should certainly be the no. 1 item on any wish list for the town.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2015, 12:05:15 pm
I'd like to see the Pier tidied up and the lighting fixed. If I remember correctly there used to be lights strung all the way down both sides and maybe even across to central lamp posts which have all been taken away. It can be extremely dark at nights and really needs to be sorted out. Some of the lights look as though they are ready to topple into the sea!

The road train should be extended to run to/from the Craig Y Don paddling pool, up to the Pier entrance and then out to the West Shore.

All the ironwork outside the shops should be tidied up and reinstated as necessary plus glass roofing made mandatory to let the light through. Some shops have just filled it all in which makes for a very inconsistent and dull appearance.

The trams up the Orme should run into the evenings with sympathetic lighting installed in them if necessary.

Oh, and don't get me started about the sheer neglect of Halfre Gardens...
Some great ideas, OrmeMac. The lighting on the pier has been terrible for years and will deter many people from visiting in the evening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2015, 05:58:25 pm
born2run we need you to go around Llandudno and explain what the local pubs are doing wrong,i must admit i like the Snowdon,the Cottage Loaf,Gresham,Queen Vic and the Albert,not sure what the Sun inn is like you must explain.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2015, 06:03:00 pm
i would love to see a couple of trendy bars in the Clarence,problem is nobody seems to be pushing the project or they bare  being very greedy with the rent,
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: OrmeMac on January 27, 2015, 11:07:16 am
i would love to see a couple of trendy bars in the Clarence,problem is nobody seems to be pushing the project or they bare  being very greedy with the rent,

Nudest bars? Don't think Mr. Mostyn would like that!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2015, 07:01:19 am
Im so glad they are introducing parking charges on Colwyn prom,i don;t feel so bad now about paying for Bryns re-fit now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 30, 2015, 08:44:04 am
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Im so glad they are introducing parking charges on Colwyn prom,i don;t feel so bad now about paying for Bryns re-fit now.


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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2015, 01:58:52 pm
Im so glad they are introducing parking charges on Colwyn prom,i don;t feel so bad now about paying for Bryns re-fit now.

Re fit? It never started .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2015, 04:14:40 pm
Thought i read it was going ahead,come back Oscar,we need your info.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 30, 2015, 05:24:33 pm
Love to Eat has opened up in the old Badgers, looks quite nice the wife says.
Need to sell a few teas and coffee to make a profit but best wishes to them.
Not my cup of tea unless they have made it look a bit younger if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 30, 2015, 05:36:14 pm
Its about time we had a trendy new bar for the youngsters and me,anyone got any spare cash,we could sell coffee during the day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2015, 08:08:33 pm
Just coffee?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 31, 2015, 01:55:37 pm
We had Breakfast in the Inglenook Cafe in Vaughan Street this morning. Full cooked breakfast for £6 and it was excellent. Do give it a try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 01, 2015, 03:57:12 pm
I am pleased to be able to say that 'Love to Eat' (the old Badgers) is delightful; nice modern 'shabby chic' bright and airy décor, pleasant staff, good service and some really excellent home made cakes that are actually baked on the premises. The Bakewell is superb.

Highly recommended. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 01, 2015, 04:25:20 pm
We had a meal in the Seahorse last night, Don's cooking is as great as ever. The crispy duck in plum sauce was fantastic.  $good$  $good$  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on February 01, 2015, 05:34:34 pm
Thanks for the information on 'Love to Eat' Bosun, Bakewell is my favourite so next time we are in Llandudno will be giving it a visit. ;D

We have had a rather nice meal at the Inglenook cafe and Mr M agrees with you Dave they serve an excellent, reasonably priced breakfast. I'm very tempted to try something off the Polish menu has anyone tried anything? 
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Blongb on February 01, 2015, 09:37:40 pm
The town is in desperate need of large volume of Car Parking spaces at reasonable cost.  ^*^0

More good standard and clean Public Conveniences are required.   {}{}

The current Sea Defences need to be removed and replaced with a more sympathetic scheme.   $booboo$
 
All of the above could be achieved by putting in underground Parking under the promenade.  *&(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 02, 2015, 12:35:41 pm
born2run we need you to go around Llandudno and explain what the local pubs are doing wrong,i must admit i like the Snowdon,the Cottage Loaf,Gresham,Queen Vic and the Albert,not sure what the Sun inn is like you must explain.

Not entirely the pub's fault they have to deal with Devilspoons on the doorstep taking away the custom.
20/30 people in spoons and the place seems dead because of the vastness of the place, put those people in Gresham or the Vic and the place looks lively.

But simply put, the pubs in OC rely on local customers and so treat them well and put things on for them - Red Lion for example has darts, pool, a jukebox, selection of real ales and they put all the football channels on the telly. The Marine regularly has band nights as does the Sun Inn.
Most pubs in Llandudno couldn't give a toss about local custom and choose to rely on tourists instead and I'll give you a prime example, the Carlton stick a pool table up in the Winter then take it away as soon as the summer season hits they remove it to cram in some more dinner tables for the visitors.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on February 02, 2015, 04:55:16 pm
Wetherspoon's Bangor has a sign offering 2 dinners for £20 on Valentine's night for the more tight fisted !


Seahorse is fantastic but if Don is off it can be a different story alas.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 02, 2015, 08:59:14 pm
Wetherspoon's Bangor has a sign offering 2 dinners for £20 on Valentine's night for the more tight fisted !


Seahorse is fantastic but if Don is off it can be a different story alas.

Mr T, all Wetherspoons are doing that offer.... see The Palladium in Llandudno.

Also, I have to say, regarding the Seahorse.....  the majority of the time when I go, it is not Don who is the head Chef on that night.  There is another regular head chef at The Seahorse, (who's name escapes me), but he is superb in all respects.

Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on February 02, 2015, 09:22:25 pm
Parking below the waterline at high tide.......have you forgotten 1993?
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Michael on February 03, 2015, 08:00:34 am
As far as I know the 1993 flood had nothing to do with the level of the sea at the time
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Yorkie on February 03, 2015, 08:45:13 am
Not a viable plan as the costs would be prohibitive.

.The difference in cost between underground and decked parking is huge. Decked parking costs roughly £8,000-£10,000 per space to build. Underground parking costs anything between £18,000-£30,000 per space, depending on ground conditions, contamination issues and the water table.

The above is for an inland situation, now multiply it by two or even three, to account for it being a tidal sea front situation!

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on February 03, 2015, 11:07:33 am
Agree about Don, maybe the night we went was just one of those things that happen.
About time we went again in any case.
Jai Ho Indian is very nice by the way, a little on the expensive side, we mean to try Asia sometime.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Nemesis on February 03, 2015, 11:58:03 am
The car park in Gloddaeth could be either excavated or sympathetically built on to form more car parking spaces at surely far less expense ? It certainly couldn't look any more modern than the new block of flats next to it .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2015, 03:55:22 pm
Agree about Don, maybe the night we went was just one of those things that happen.
About time we went again in any case.
Jai Ho Indian is very nice by the way, a little on the expensive side, we mean to try Asia sometime.

The Asia is really excellent, only the decor lets it down... but the prices and cuisine make up for that.
Looking forward to trying Jai Ho.  $dins$ $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on February 03, 2015, 04:59:36 pm
Not sure when you last went in the Asia, Fester? But they have given it a fresh lick of paint and new lights etc. They have also changed the menu so there are a few more new 'specials' - it is still very good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 03, 2015, 06:25:36 pm
Yes Fester ,and i helped lick it ha
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 03, 2015, 06:40:01 pm
Having been to the Jai Ho several times, I can state that the food is excellent. I have been to India and Asia numerous times and love the food, and the Jai Ho is on a par with the best UK Indian restaurants. My only gripe is that the beer, Cobra or Kingfisher (in my opinion the only thing to drink with Indian food....) is excessively expensive at £3.50 for a small bottle making it about £7 a pint.
Other than that, the Jai Ho is delightful with food to die for and nice staff. Do try it, it's not a curry house, it's Indian fine dining at it's best.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Yorkie on February 03, 2015, 07:41:53 pm
The car park in Gloddaeth could be either excavated or sympathetically built on to form more car parking spaces at surely far less expense ? It certainly couldn't look any more modern than the new block of flats next to it .

Both of the Gloddaeth Street Car Parks are leased to the Council by Mostyn Estates.  The Maelgwyn Road one is a short term lease and is due for development for Residential use.  Or I should say, was, the last info I had.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Nemesis on February 03, 2015, 08:59:48 pm
The Maelgwyn Road one is appallingly dirty and the Gloddaeth one is full of pot holes and the parking lines are barely visible
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 04, 2015, 10:27:55 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wales-first-cat-cafe-could-8571028 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wales-first-cat-cafe-could-8571028)

Much as I love animals, I shall avoid this or be sneezing my head off !
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: Jonty Hammers on February 04, 2015, 05:59:15 pm
1: Do SOMETHING with the Boulevard and the Washington. More in the pipeline with the latter than the former I suppose, but it's an absolute waste to have two cracking venues of that caliber going to waste at that end of town. Even if one were a restaurant and one were a nightclub, rather than both being turned back into pubs/clubs, fine - but right now, there's nothing, and there's little worse than that!

Given a choice (plus a big, hefty pile of money), I would bring back the Boulevard as a nightclub while at the very least preserving the former, hidden theater - apologies to campaigners looking to restore the former Broadway theater but given Venue Cymru is right next door, while a smaller community theater could be the answer to what Conwy Civic Hall USED to be (don't get me started on the travesty of that closing down!!) and could provide kids' groups and the like with a place to rehearse, that space is now served by the improved Theatr Colwyn. I appreciate the costs at Theatr Colwyn may be a smidge prohibitive for small groups, but they at the very least provide a space for community pantomime etc.

Llandudno needs a choice of nightclubs that isn't restricted to Club 147 (apologies to enthusiasts of Fountains, but it's just not big enough). And at the very least, both Boulevard and the Wash need to be open and doing something.

2: (Don't know whether or not it's been touted before, BUT) Create a single, monthly (or every-other-monthly) meeting at a big enough venue where town police officers; town councillors; county officials; members of the Chamber of Trade and Federation of Small Businesses; business owners; the chaps from the Pier; the RNLI; the Hospitality Association; the organisers behind the Extravaganza, Daffodil Campaign and the Alice Trail; representatives from Mostyn Estates; the North Shore committee; the guys from the Great Orme Country Park; Friends Groups of the various parks and management from the Victoria Centre, Parc Llandudno and Mostyn Champneys ALL come together to chat things over in a forum. I've seen it done in other places and it's surprising how many wheels it can oil. Regardless of how busy their schedules might be, I'm sure those various parties have interest enough in Llandudno's welfare to put it together. That creates a single, unified talking shop where everything from parking to rates to crime to tourism to all else besides can be hammered out quickly.

Chaps behind Extravaganza are concerned about rates? Federation of Small Businesses and the Hospitality Association can discuss a way forward with them. And so on and so on. Everyone gets to express their concerns in a frank but forward-thinking environment.

And make it a repeating date so the press know to attend on a regular basis. That would make the people spearheading some of the big initiatives wider-known. And moreover, one would hope it would help stem antagonism - everyone would realise that everyone else is trying to improve the place; just everyone has different ideas on how to do it. I'm sure the Alice Trail is benevolently intended, even if there are natterings on the effect it will have on the town; I'm sure the Extravaganza is difficult to run and organisers hope to bring it back to its Victorian roots; I'm sure the council WANTS to get the Pier Pavilion back in use etc.

My feeling is that a heady chunk of the problems affecting this area are the apparent cloak-and-dagger way in which they are dealt; once that is sorted and everything's out in the open, it's hardly a fix-all button, but it makes sure that everyone is watching everyone else on a frequent basis.

3: Redevelop the tram line, but make it a PIECEMEAL approach; first to the pier (no need for a station, just a drop-off point); then further along the prom; then along Penrhyn Bay etc. Piece by careful, tedious piece. Of course, to have it run along the prom would require improved sea defences (don't want high winds pelting tramcars with stones, do we?) but that can be looked at in the light of what's going on. Likewise, stretch it down to the old station on the West Shore.

4: (Not an outright development, more a change in thinking, but ) - create some sort of Towns Partnership; yes, I'm serious!

Right now, there seems to be a lot of envy between Llandudno and Colwyn Bay; the foremost point being that Colwyn Bay got a new beach while Llandudno had its more prominent one repeatedly covered with layers of stone. And Colwyn Bay is in receipt of various bits and bobs of funding (Townscape Heritager; European regeneration funding etc), while Llandudno is having to fend for itself and fight for its own corner.

Won't bore people with how the two towns differ in social demographic and so one may tick more funding criteria boxes than the other etc etc, but like with the forum idea I mentioned above, there needs to be a greater sense of mutual benefit rather than competition and envy. While Llandudno my be the Queen of Welsh resorts, Conwy Council also has to focus its efforts on a multitude of other tourism offerings, towns, villages, services etc further down the Conwy Valley and stretching from Llanfairfechan to Kinmel Bay. There needs to be less a feeling of everyone fighting for pots and attention and more of helping one another out.



Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: wrex on February 05, 2015, 07:19:10 am
Lot of effort put into that Jonty and very well said.
Title: Re: What would YOU like to see developed?
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2015, 11:37:22 am
Yes, great post Jonty.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2015, 11:51:02 am
We visited Asia (the restaurant, not the country!) for the first time before Christmas and found it excellent.

Where is Jai-ho?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: majormellons on February 05, 2015, 02:02:23 pm
Deganwy Road, Deganwy.

www.jaihorestaurant.co.uk/ (http://www.jaihorestaurant.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on February 05, 2015, 04:37:09 pm
We visited Asia (the restaurant, not the country!) for the first time before Christmas and found it excellent.

Where is Jai-ho?


Next door to Nikki Ips
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 08, 2015, 01:03:04 pm
I popped into the Rabbit Hole near Trinity Church yesterday and had a lovely meal and latte, followed by a chocolate cake and a complementary smoothie.        $good$   
Until very recently I didn't know the cafe existed which is a shame as the place is well worth a visit.  The place is very inviting, the staff pleasant and the food is good and reasonably priced
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 13, 2015, 07:11:17 am
Having a nose at Travelodge last nite as you would expect,noticed 5 men inside Vollams and the lights on in the old navel club so i take it both have had planning permission.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: chemirocha on February 13, 2015, 09:33:23 am
Do you mean naval? Then again, maybe not, it takes all sorts  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 15, 2015, 10:46:35 am
I've always enjoyed the themed evening meals at Home from Home in Penrhyn Bay and yesterday's Valentine Night was no exception.  The management and staff always go that extra step to ensure that you have a really good evening.
We were welcomed with a complimentary glass of bubbly when we arrived and then we had an absolutely delicious 3 course meal followed by a coffee of our choice.
We all had the Thai spiced strips of Welsh black extra mature sirloin steak as starters and I had the fillet of plaice with lobster tails as the main course.   Then that was followed by the most delicious profiteroles I have ever tasted. A cappuccino then finished off a lovely evening.
Excellent value at £24.95
Can't wait to see what the St David's Day menu will be.       $good$ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 21, 2015, 01:10:04 pm
I see that the Fountain in Upper Mostyn Street has applied to serve until 3.30am on 2 nights a week !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 21, 2015, 03:35:31 pm
Does anyone happen to know where the tapas bar is going to open in Conwy? Or any other details?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 21, 2015, 04:54:28 pm
Does anyone happen to know where the tapas bar is going to open in Conwy? Or any other details?

In the old Bank building, on the corner just below Lancaster Square.  Open by Easter I've been told.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 22, 2015, 02:17:03 pm
La Taverna was as  busy as usual last night when we had our meal there.
 Starters     Bruschetta al Pomodoro
Main           Tagliatelle con Pancetta e Funghi
Dessert      Coppa di Ciliege  Vanilla and cherry ice-cream with cherries, maraschino liqueur and whipped cream
 It won't be long before we are back there again because it's such a lovely dining experience and very reasonable too.      $good$
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on March 03, 2015, 05:20:10 pm
Can anyone confirm, or otherwise, that the Groes Inn is for sale? I cannot suggest that I am surprised if it is, I was extremely disappointed with the quality of the food the last time I ate there, and appalled at the attitude of the so-called 'manageress'.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 03, 2015, 08:01:50 pm
Seem to think that I have seen an advert for the sale somewhere.
http://www.christie.com/en/news/2014/11/06/15th_century_snowdonia_coaching_inn_comes_to_market_18135 (http://www.christie.com/en/news/2014/11/06/15th_century_snowdonia_coaching_inn_comes_to_market_18135)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 06, 2015, 07:57:45 pm
Work progressing in,Vollams,in Parade and in the old Victoria wines next to Starbucks,also Foetes confirm new ice-cream parlour in old Bettys fabrics,91 Mostyn st still under offer.
Did i miss anything.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on March 06, 2015, 08:01:31 pm
Yes you did Wrex.  Work seems to be going on in the former National Trust Offices at Drummond House, Trinity Square.  Anyone know what is going on there ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 06, 2015, 09:05:40 pm
As to the Groes, yes it is for sale.  Obviously I cannot comment about Bosuns bad experience. But for what it is worth, the present owners have been there for many many years. I think upwards of twenty. So presumably they must have been doing something right for some of their clients.
  Of course, there is the chance that they have been doing it right for 20 years but have decided they had had enough and let their standards slip, and Bosun suffered. I do know that it has never been a cheap and cheerful type of inn. More the type where the customer had to be on his best behaviour. Don't be offended Bosun, I am sure your behaviour was exemplary . It's just that I am surprised by what you experienced.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2015, 09:57:58 pm
I must admit that on the times I've been to the Groes I've always enjoyed the place and thought that it was well run.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on March 08, 2015, 02:30:35 pm
We went to the Groes as guests of friends who were visiting from abroad and quiet frankly, it was embarrassing. When we arrived, early evening and in plenty of time for the table we had booked, the 'manageress', as I understood her to be, was rude and bossy, refusing to allow us to have a drink at the bar before our meal, quickly ushering us to a table. She gave us the menu's, and then stood over us at the table wanting to know our order there and then. When we asked for a moment to decided, she flounced off. To cut the story short, the food was to say the least, very poor and 'canteen' quality. As I said, as invited guests for the meal, it was embarrassing. The service was chronic with the rest of the staff having the same awful attitude and as we were leaving, I tried to discreetly speak to the only member of staff left in the restaurant (although people were still dining) but he just shrugged his shoulders and walked off. I haven't checked Trip Advisor recently, and I am loath to leave poor reviews, but on this occasion I did, and at that time there were numerous poor reviews. I cannot say that I am surprised that it's for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 08, 2015, 04:00:05 pm
It has been interesting to read these comments on here about the Groes. I have only been there once and that was about 8 or 9 years ago before we came to live here. I took my parents there for a meal as we were staying in one of the cottages on the Bodnant estate at the time.
On that visit I felt we were being processed rather than served and the food came so quickly I even wondered how they could have microwaved it in the time.
Since then I have read favourable reviews on here so I thought I must have just been unlucky but now I am not so sure.
My experience certainly put me off ever going back.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 08, 2015, 07:25:23 pm
I must be sad as i never go out of myway to eat outside of town as i think we have enought good restaurants to support as it is,yet if nobody came into town to eat we would have far less,im an oddity i know.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 09, 2015, 07:19:36 pm
We went to the Groes as guests of friends who were visiting from abroad and quiet frankly, it was embarrassing.

Sorry to read you had a less than perfect meal at the Groes, Bosun. Next time try the Queens Head at Glanwydden. Not so far to travel and you will always have a positive Dining experience. After all it was one of William and Kates choices when they were living on Anglesey.

http://www.queensheadglanwydden.co.uk/ (http://www.queensheadglanwydden.co.uk/)   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on March 09, 2015, 07:54:13 pm
Thank you Blongb, the Queens Head at Glanwydden is relatively close to me in Deganwy and I have enjoyed their consistency of both quality and service for a couple of years. There are actually numerous other decent local restaurants; the Pen-y-Bryn also has the added attraction to me that it also keeps a very good pint. Deganwy also has Nikki Ipps and Jai Ho, both excellent.

Unfortunately, we were guests at the Groes, it was booked out of kindness by friends without us knowing, I would have certainly suggested the Queens, PyB or even the Mulberry if asked.

The Castle View in Deganwy should take lessons from the Pen-y-Bryn or the Queens; does anyone know if is it still for sale?

PS W & K also frequented the White Eagle at Rhoscolyn. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 09, 2015, 08:52:09 pm
We used to go to Casanova's in Llandudno on a regular basis, the atmosphere and food were both good but it was overpriced and we haven't been there for many years.   The Castle in Conwy was the same and we have avoided that place for the same reason.We do like Signatures in Conwy and that is not cheap either but when you compare value for money then it leaves the other two standing and if you join the Signatures club you do get a discount on the price.
We don't mind paying for the food and service but we don't like to be taken for mugs either.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 14, 2015, 02:25:35 pm
Watson's Bistro, nestling within the castle walls at Conwy, will never let you down.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 14, 2015, 06:34:26 pm
Did La Taverna last nite,no complaints.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 18, 2015, 04:39:18 pm
Board outside Snooze bar advertising jobs so i would say it looks like an easter opening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on March 18, 2015, 04:57:30 pm
And an end of summer closing, if they're lucky  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 18, 2015, 08:39:00 pm
Looks like this one will be a nice bar and last a long time
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 18, 2015, 09:28:42 pm
Looks like this one will be a nice bar and last a long time

Just what is needed Wrex, I look forward to trying that.  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on March 19, 2015, 08:49:17 am
Looks like this one will be a nice bar and last a long time

Hope you're right, and I also hope the price of a pint isn't north of £3.50
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 21, 2015, 10:49:49 pm
The wife and I went to the Castle Hotel in Conwy for lunch this afternoon. Everything was very good except my wife’s choice of main course. Her duck breast was tough and chewy the rest of the bird was dry and tasteless, Savoy Cabbage had been blanched but not cooked and Shitake Mushrooms again were too tough to eat. For the price they charged it should have been far less pretentious and a lot more attention paid to detail. It’s a shame because that’s another place we won’t be in a rush to go back to.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 22, 2015, 07:41:17 am
Quote
the rest of the bird was dry and tasteless

You have to work hard to achieve  that with Duck...  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 22, 2015, 08:21:28 am
The wife and I went to the Castle Hotel in Conwy for lunch this afternoon. Everything was very good except my wife’s choice of main course. Her duck breast was tough and chewy the rest of the bird was dry and tasteless, Savoy Cabbage had been blanched but not cooked and Shitake Mushrooms again were too tough to eat. For the price they charged it should have been far less pretentious and a lot more attention paid to detail. It’s a shame because that’s another place we won’t be in a rush to go back to.  &shake&

I hope you made them aware of your problems ?????
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 22, 2015, 08:58:25 am
I'm afraid we too had a rather depressing dining experience on Friday.
We had arranged to meet friends for lunch at the Quay hotel, Deganwy. The friends were staying at the hotel for two nights.
It was our turn to pay for the meal this time so wanting it to be good for them we booked beforehand for 1pm and asked for a table by the window so that our friends could enjoy the view as they live away from here.
We arrived first and were told that a table had been reserved in one of the dark booths on the right as you walk in. We asked to sit in the restaurant part but were told that this area was reserved for afternoon teas. In fact the tea tables were arranged in the area between the bar and the restaurant and the main area remained empty for lunch.
Eventually the manageress was called and seated us in the restaurant by the window as requested but we couldn't help feeling that we were an inconvenience rather than a paying customer.
What I can never understand is why they moved the restaurant down there from the wonderful one upstairs with the gorgeous views. I used to go there often for their set lunch.
I was told by the manageress that it was to accommodate weddings that they hold up there now. A sad loss in my view and I think she agreed with me. She said she had passed the comments on to the new owners as I am not the only one to have missed the upper floor facility.
All this aside when we were finally seated the service and the food was very disappointing. I had to get up and ask for the table to be cleared when we had finished eating. This wasn't done willingly and even then the empty glasses and bottles were left on the table.
The bar menu is very limited and expensive for what it is.
Eventually two other couples were seated either side of us by the windows in the main part of the restaurant because by now the tables in the middle section were all taken by people having afternoon teas. The young couple next to us must have waited more than 45 mins for their snack lunch and they were guests of the hotel and had just arrived.
What an awful start for them too.
I want to like this place, It has such a great location which at present is in my view totally wasted.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 22, 2015, 12:43:13 pm
The wife and I went to the Castle Hotel in Conwy for lunch this afternoon. Everything was very good except my wife’s choice of main course. Her duck breast was tough and chewy the rest of the bird was dry and tasteless, Savoy Cabbage had been blanched but not cooked and Shitake Mushrooms again were too tough to eat. For the price they charged it should have been far less pretentious and a lot more attention paid to detail. It’s a shame because that’s another place we won’t be in a rush to go back to.  &shake&

I hope you made them aware of your problems ?????

We had a similar problem with the main course when we went there one evening and the dessert was nothing short of a rip off.    We didn't complain as we were with friends and they had invited us to the hotel so we didn't want to cause them any embarrassment , but we won't be going back there in a hurry.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 22, 2015, 12:52:22 pm
On a more positive note, on Friday night while Wrex and the others braved the elements to watch Tudno play at Maesdu Park my wife and I were at La Taverna in Church Walks.
We shared a starter, then had a main course and a dessert with half a carafe of wine.     A really nice meal and a nice atmosphere too and at a very reasonable price of £36.50.
It's no wonder the place is so popular,  I just wish that I'd have started going there sooner
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 22, 2015, 06:58:12 pm
The Empire Hotel last night for us.

The £18.95 menu, for 3 excellent courses. including wine, and coffee afterwards is still unbeatable value in my book.

It was as reliably good as it's always been.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 22, 2015, 07:21:36 pm
I left it late booking last nite so we ended up in the Mediterranean,food was nice and the placed packed for a change,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 23, 2015, 06:06:51 pm
I hope you made them aware of your problems ?????

Yes we did Nem in a very positive way. Being in the business we are all used to the professional complainers who only want to get away without paying. We were told we didn't have to pay for the Duck meal as it wasn't cooked to my wife’s liking but we declined their offer and did pay for the meal in full. We provided the waiter with an explanation of what we thought was wrong with the meal and how we thought it could be improved. It would have been far better if someone from the waiting on staff/restaurant manager had actually come over and asked if everything was alright with our meal before they came to remove our plates. I agree with what Hollins said in an earlier post, paying customers really are an inconvenience to the staff. Pretentious Restaurants charging well over the odds for what in effect is mediocre food served with Staff who don’t know how to serve their paying customers need to really start upping their game.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 23, 2015, 09:43:31 pm
As you say Blongb we are all used to professional complainers, but I also see Hollins point. We went out for lunch, which is a very rare occasion, but the family came for the day before Christmas and as I hadn't been well my OH suggested we went out. 4 of us went plus our great-granddaughter to a well known local eatery. The service was awful, the food poor and as my OH only eats peas he requested same. A large pudding basin of these arrived, barely warm, let alone cooked. The Yorkshire puddings were  like shoe leather, in fact I wouldn't have put any of it in front of my guests. As he said, If we had been alone we would have complained, but as we were treating the family we kept quiet. ! The only person who seemed to enjoy her lunch was our great granddaughter who at barely 2 tucked into her sausage and mash ! Glad you complained Blongb, wish we could have done .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on March 25, 2015, 06:40:21 pm
Some rather good news; based on their success, the Albion team in Conwy have brought both the Bridge Inn in Conwy and also a pub in Porthmadog, 

If they run the Bridge in the same manner as the Albion, (and with the same management team, I have no doubt they will) this is excellent news for Conwy, and indeed, for Porthmadog. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llewelyn on March 25, 2015, 11:51:20 pm
The Bridge has been a dump for years as was the Albion , really happy about the new owners.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Daihardwelshman on March 27, 2015, 09:40:49 am
A new Pop up restaurant opened on Builder street last night called The Kitchen, and what i have heard went really well.

It is in the Building that the Brewery have moved into, but hurry, it is only open for 8 weeks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 27, 2015, 07:27:42 pm
Work is well underway on the new Fortes cafe in the old Bettys Fabrics shop. I understand that it is going to be more of a milk bar type cafe than the main Fortes restaurant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2015, 10:26:23 am
We went to The Toad in Colwyn Bay  last night and enjoyed a lovely meal there,  The place was very busy but it had a nice atmosphere and wasn't too noisy.
When the building work was going on around the place The Toad continued to trade and was well supported so it was nice to see the place doing so well.      $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2015, 06:14:38 pm
We went to The Toad in Colwyn Bay  last night and enjoyed a lovely meal there,  The place was very busy but it had a nice atmosphere and wasn't too noisy.
When the building work was going on around the place The Toad continued to trade and was well supported so it was nice to see the place doing so well.      $good$
I used to go there a few years back, they did a lovely burger back then.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2015, 09:10:47 am
Some rather good news; based on their success, the Albion team in Conwy have brought both the Bridge Inn in Conwy and also a pub in Porthmadog, 

If they run the Bridge in the same manner as the Albion, (and with the same management team, I have no doubt they will) this is excellent news for Conwy, and indeed, for Porthmadog.

Brewers behind Conwy's Albion Ale House set to open two new pubs in North Wales
14:00, 31 March 2015 By Mari Jones
Four microbreweries clubbed together to snap up the old Australia in Porthmadog and the Bridge Inn in Conwy, creating 25 new jobs
 

The brewers behind a successful Conwy pub are set to open another two establishments in North Wales.

The Bragdy Nant, Conwy, Purple Moose and Great Orme breweries, who reopened the Albion in Conwy in February 2012, have announced that they have taken over the old Australia pub in Porthmadog and the Bridge Inn in Conwy.

Gwynne Thomas of Conwy Brewery said 25 new jobs will be created by the acquisition of the pubs.

He said: “I’ve got a soft spot for the Bridge, as years ago it used to be the best pub in Conwy, and it’s in an amazing location just by Conwy Castle.


“It will be more family-friendly than the Albion, and there will be food. We’ll be serving traditional Welsh dishes like cawl.

Steve LewisGwynne Thomas of Conwy Brewery at the Bridge InnGwynne Thomas of Conwy Brewery at the Bridge Inn
“We think with the success of the Albion, the opening of a new tapas bar in the town, the continued success of the Liverpool Arms and the Castle Hotel, and with us taking over the Bridge Inn, Conwy will become a very real competitor to Llandudno as a night-time destination, although perhaps more for the 30s and over-40s demographic.”

Mr Thomas said the Australia will open before the summer holidays, and will have “more of a feel of the Albion”.

He said: “I think that, between all of us, we employ about 100 people in the breweries and in the pubs.

“We don’t want to overstretch ourselves, but perhaps in another couple of years we could expand further.”

Only months after opening with the financial backing of a mystery banker, the Albion was garnering rave reviews in national newspaper titles, and was named one of the best pubs in the world by the Observer.

Mr Thomas said: “I did have some worries as people were saying we’d need to offer Sky Sports, jukeboxes and food, but I think we’ve proved them wrong.

“The four of us got together and opened the sort of pub that we’d like to go to, and luckily it has worked.

“We are just as busy in the winter as we are in the summer, which is pretty incredible.”

Laurence Washington, owner of the Purple Moose brewery in Porthmadog, said: “I think the Albion has worked because we’ve created a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. Many of our customers are people who wouldn’t normally go out otherwise.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/brewers-behind-conwys-albion-ale-8955140 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/brewers-behind-conwys-albion-ale-8955140)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2015, 11:25:12 am
We called in last week at the newish Puffin Cafe on the A55 at Penmaenmawr. It used to be the Little Chef and it has been transformed into a very pleasant place to call in for a bite to eat. It's owned by Glasfryn Parc and they use all their own produce in the cafe. I had the breakfast and it was fantastic, will certainly call again. They also have a shop/deli on site.

http://www.glasfryn.co.uk/puffin-cafe-shop-deli-a55/ (http://www.glasfryn.co.uk/puffin-cafe-shop-deli-a55/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 02, 2015, 05:10:43 pm
Good news for Conwy and Penmaenmawr,and Llandudno will lose out but hey ho we cant make people invest in Llandudno can we.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 04, 2015, 09:07:32 am
Called in at the Bridge, Conwy yesterday evening, excellent beer, spotlessly clean, open fire, comfortable with no hated muzac. It's subtly different from the Albion, but with the same winning formula. I wish it well.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 07, 2015, 12:25:15 pm
Visited two venues for the first time over the weekend -

I went out for a family meal at The Castle Hotel in Conwy on Sunday evening. I was surprised to be able to book a table on Saturday lunch time for the next day but after the meal I wasn't complaining. Perhaps a touch steep, the portions for the starters were a bit too big to stomach to be honest. Other than that it was first rate (stay tuned for a taste test review in the Post).

Also called in to Habit tea rooms in Llandudno yesterday - thought it was very nice - lots of staff on hand to help - could perhaps give you a bigger cup for their coffees but the lemon cake I had was delicious.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2015, 12:49:46 pm
I've always liked the ambience of the Castle Hotel.

We went to Asia in Upper Mostyn Street last week, a first class meal, as always.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on April 07, 2015, 11:35:48 pm
I like The Castle too.  Great ambience, but I would add that you need to be in the bar area as opposed to the restaurant, which for some reason can be a bit soulless.  Have been to carlos this evening in Craig y don - personally I don't think you can beat it locally for food, ambience or service.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on April 08, 2015, 12:55:00 pm
             I asked the lads who are converting the old "Butterfly Boutique" shop on the corner opposite Starbucks and the old North Western Hotel (Tudno Castle) what it was going to be and they told me  "an ice-cream shop and cafe".
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 08, 2015, 02:48:57 pm
Gwynant, I have been given to understand Fortes are going into where Betty's Fabrics used to trade from?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 08, 2015, 03:59:37 pm
Yes Brian, that is what I heard as well.
I noticed that the small sweet shop between Starbucks and the Antique shop has closed. The sign said 'We are moving' but as I was driving I hadn't time to read the rest.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Gwynant on April 08, 2015, 04:12:14 pm
Gwynant, I have been given to understand Fortes are going into where Betty's Fabrics used to trade from?
           I think that Fortes is a Cafe which also sells ice cream isn't it Bri?  The lads didn't know what it was to be called.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2015, 04:26:55 pm
Yes Brian, that is what I heard as well.
I noticed that the small sweet shop between Starbucks and the Antique shop has closed. The sign said 'We are moving' but as I was driving I hadn't time to read the rest.
Maisie's Chocolate Shop will be opening there in May.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 08, 2015, 04:52:05 pm
Gwynant, I have been given to understand Fortes are going into where Betty's Fabrics used to trade from?
           I think that Fortes is a Cafe which also sells ice cream isn't it Bri?  The lads didn't know what it was to be called.

"A cafe which also sells ice cream"

Just like every pub round here nowadays is a "restaurant that also sells beer"

North Wales public houses RIP - Wetherspoons done it, in the faux library, with a badly microwaved main course  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 08, 2015, 05:10:45 pm
Gwynant, I have been given to understand Fortes are going into where Betty's Fabrics used to trade from?
           I think that Fortes is a Cafe which also sells ice cream isn't it Bri?  The lads didn't know what it was to be called.

"A cafe which also sells ice cream"

Just like every pub round here nowadays is a "restaurant that also sells beer"

North Wales public houses RIP - Wetherspoons done it, in the faux library, with a badly microwaved main course  &shake&

Been in The Snowdon or Cooney's recently?    (Or Cross Keys, for that matter)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 09, 2015, 08:57:22 am
Or The King's Head or the Cottage Loaf (right next door!). Or The Albert.

Wetherspoons in a town will frequently kill off poor/struggling pubs but the myth they kill all pubs is false.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2015, 09:14:26 am
Wetherspoons in a town will frequently kill off poor/struggling pubs but the myth they kill all pubs is false.
I think that's very true. Their general lack of any ambience or real character will ensure a well managed rival pub with a bit of character can thrive.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 09, 2015, 11:08:41 am
Or The King's Head or the Cottage Loaf (right next door!). Or The Albert.

Wetherspoons in a town will frequently kill off poor/struggling pubs but the myth they kill all pubs is false.

You just named three pubs that precisely prove my point.

The Loaf and the Albert were Pubs at one time
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Greyhound on April 09, 2015, 12:34:45 pm
I think the Loaf is infinitely nicer and more welcoming than it used to be. It's obviously gone for the Pen y Bryn look, but is all the better for it in my opinion.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 09, 2015, 04:30:00 pm
Maybe it is, doesn't change the fact that it isn't a pub anymore.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2015, 06:58:37 pm
Maybe it is, doesn't change the fact that it isn't a pub anymore.
They're just responding to customer demand, I suppose. Most people want a good meal with a drink these days, rather than just a booze up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 09, 2015, 07:39:16 pm
Aren't the Snowdon and the Loaf owned by the same people?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2015, 07:42:09 pm
Aren't the Snowdon and the Loaf owned by the same people?
Yes, Stange & Co own them both.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 09, 2015, 09:45:09 pm
Why does the Albion work then,no food,anyway popped into the pop up restaurant this evening to try and book a table,looked busy and certainley different,anyway could.nt book ,only online and they where booked up anyway so it is very popular,did anybody go to the St Georges pop up restaurant in the Menai suite
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 11, 2015, 07:49:29 am
Following on with the theme of decent pubs, I had a 'discussion' with two Conwy licensees just before the Albion opened. They claimed that there was not enough pub customers to go round the pubs in Conwy already there and that it would just dilute trade even more. I stated (in my own inimitable fashion) that there was plenty of custom locally, but Conwy pubs were not frequented because they were all competing to sell the cheapest lager to the town drunks, thier beer was awful, the places were filthy and the toilets minging. Certainly no place to take Mrs B (unless she was applying for a job as a bouncer) and Conwy pubs were avoided by many decent locals and visitor's alike.

After the obvious success of the Albion, (good beer, clean etc) I reminded them of our conversation. (This actually took place in the Albion) One of them looked around, thought for a moment and then said 'They are catering for a different clientele...'



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on April 11, 2015, 05:29:45 pm
I agree 100% with all you have said Bosun. Mr M and I must be 2 of the "different clientele" as are many of our family and friends living in Conwy. Sadly we wouldn't set foot in any other pub in Conwy Town apart from The Albion and The Castle Hotel for the very reasons you have mentioned.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 14, 2015, 07:13:49 am
There are chairs outside the Snooze bar,we are getting there very,very slowy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 14, 2015, 07:45:18 am
I noticed that when passing the other day.

The lights were on and the doors open.

I asked a young lady walking in when it is likely to open and she said next month so I am assuming in time for the Extravaganza.

I must say it does look quite nice.

I notice the bar is already on tripadvisor.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g190724-d7247448-i116435440-Snooze-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g190724-d7247448-i116435440-Snooze-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2015, 01:19:08 pm
Cafe Cais on the coach park appears to have been renamed to the Troop Cafe, for some reason.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 14, 2015, 01:23:04 pm
Cafe Cais on the coach park appears to have been renamed to the Troop Cafe, for some reason.

It is going to be run by Change Step Wales and veterans suffering PTSD etc.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 14, 2015, 08:35:04 pm
It's not a new eating place in Llandudno but it must be undergoing a change in direction.
  Bodafon farm park has always had a small cafe. But now they are advertising for waiting on staff. In past years I don't mean to be offensive but it was just a snack bar. Kept going because visits to the farm were free. But no picnics. If you wanted to eat, you bought it in the cafe.
  I always thought that was fair. They had to make money from somewhere. But every mother I spoke to about it admitted that they " smuggled" their own food in. So they shouldn't be surprised if they now have to pay for admission to the park.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2015, 09:03:00 am
It's not a new eating place in Llandudno but it must be undergoing a change in direction.
  Bodafon farm park has always had a small cafe. But now they are advertising for waiting on staff. In past years I don't mean to be offensive but it was just a snack bar. Kept going because visits to the farm were free. But no picnics. If you wanted to eat, you bought it in the cafe.
  I always thought that was fair. They had to make money from somewhere. But every mother I spoke to about it admitted that they " smuggled" their own food in. So they shouldn't be surprised if they now have to pay for admission to the park.
Bodafon is very successful these days as an eating place, especially for families with children. We visited several times last Summer and every table was taken with people having meals etc. The covered Courtyard area makes a very pleasant place to eat, especially on a warm Summer's evening and they have an outside pizza oven.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2015, 09:04:12 am
Cafe Cais on the coach park appears to have been renamed to the Troop Cafe, for some reason.

It is going to be run by Change Step Wales and veterans suffering PTSD etc.
Why did CAIS give it up? They spent a fortune on refurbishing it only a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2015, 09:40:04 am
Why did CAIS give it up? They spent a fortune on refurbishing it only a couple of years ago.

I don't think they have, DaveR.

What is Change Step?

Change Step is a CAIS led and DACW managed peer mentoring and advice service. This service is for military veterans and others with post traumatic stress disorder and a range of psychosocial problems who want to make positive changes to their lives.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2015, 01:29:36 pm
Why did CAIS give it up? They spent a fortune on refurbishing it only a couple of years ago.

I don't think they have, DaveR.

What is Change Step?

Change Step is a CAIS led and DACW managed peer mentoring and advice service. This service is for military veterans and others with post traumatic stress disorder and a range of psychosocial problems who want to make positive changes to their lives.
I see, thanks for the info, Bri.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 20, 2015, 09:42:00 am
I see the Haulfre Gardens cafe had a distinguished visitor recently:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 20, 2015, 06:56:03 pm
DaveR i really thought you where going to say All bar one are going in the Clarence or the Snooze bar opens tomorrow or the Royal has been sold and the Mostyn arms is re-opening but alas you have spotted Lord Lucan,Dave what has happened to you.lol
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2015, 12:15:25 pm
DaveR i really thought you where going to say All bar one are going in the Clarence or the Snooze bar opens tomorrow or the Royal has been sold and the Mostyn arms is re-opening but alas you have spotted Lord Lucan,Dave what has happened to you.lol
Snooze Bar is opening 'soon', mate...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2015, 12:21:34 pm
The owner of Fountains Bar has received an £18,000 fine for playing music without an appropriate licence.

http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Running-your-pub/Entertainment/Wales-Fountains-Bar-nightclub-Llandudno-high-court-ruling-18-000 (http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Running-your-pub/Entertainment/Wales-Fountains-Bar-nightclub-Llandudno-high-court-ruling-18-000)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 22, 2015, 01:32:39 pm
Should be fined £50,0000000 for playing that awful music with or without a licence
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 22, 2015, 02:27:07 pm
Should be fined £50,0000000 for playing that awful music with or without a licence

When were you last in?  There is an excellent jukebox in The Fountains, which means you can listen to whatever you like, even that weird Irish tripe you call 'music'   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 22, 2015, 03:46:40 pm
Are you sure there is a jukebox? I've never seen one, even if I'm seeing double I should see at least two, so that wouldn't explain it.
If they have got one in then it must be pretty new. Even then I expect it's one of those awful digital ones and not a proper one!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 22, 2015, 04:05:20 pm
It's like the one in The Cross Keys, with like Ten Billion tunes on it.  Been there about 3 years, which just shows how long it's been since you were last allowed to go out.  :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 22, 2015, 04:30:43 pm
I didn't know the cross keys had one either  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on April 22, 2015, 08:16:33 pm
  I see the transport people are on their way back to Bodafon fields. Good. However I have a small mystery. At least it is a mystery to me.
   All the signs for the farm park, both permanent and temporary, have been taken down some weeks ago. T his suggests something, but I am not going to jump the gun. At the same time the farm park cafe, now retitled restaurant, are actively seeking waiting on staff. Also the farm park social media with Tweets and Facebook entries has become far more active. Indeed I would say in the past it was non-existent, but not now. Plenty to read
  Anyone any ideas? Come to that, is it anybody's business except the farm park itself? God forbid that my mature years are turning me into a nosey busybody.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 22, 2015, 10:44:47 pm
  Come to that, is it anybody's business except the farm park itself? God forbid that my mature years are turning me into a nosey busybody.

Ha ha Mike, that wouldn't make you any different to the vast majority around here!
After all, why are we all on a Forum such as this?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 23, 2015, 09:45:21 am
I would just like to mention I spent Tuesday at an all day meeting at the Quay Hotel in Deganwy.  $good$

I thought the lunch and dinner were both superb as well as the service from staff.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2015, 10:23:52 am
Another visit to the Seahorse last night. As always, the quality of the food was first class. I still maintain this is the best restaurant in Llandudno. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 26, 2015, 12:27:13 pm
Another visit to the Seahorse last night. As always, the quality of the food was first class. I still maintain this is the best restaurant in Llandudno. $good$

I was talking to Don the other night, (Proprietor; Seahorse), and he says there are several celebrities in his place regularly these days.  The cast of 12 Angry Men have been more than once in the last week.
He also has several potential awards pending.... one of them being 'Best Seafood Restaurant in N Wales'
I can't see anyone beating him to it, to be honest.  $walesflag$ $good$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on April 26, 2015, 12:57:39 pm
I love the food there too, just wish they could relocate to different premises.
I'm dreaming now but imagine eating their delicious fish dishes in a second floor restaurant with an outdoor terrace in a rebuilt Pier Pavilion.
I notice that Dylan's is opening in May in that super Art Deco style building on Criccieth promenade. I bet that will be really popular.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 26, 2015, 01:03:11 pm
I must try the Seahorse some time but last night I was enjoying an Italian meal in the nearby La Taverna and it was as nice as ever.  We had a 3 course meal there and not only is the food good there but it's very reasonably priced too.
Mrs H had lasagna for her main course and said that it was the best she has ever tasted and I must agree after tasting some myself.  I had the Tagliatelle con Pancetta e Funghi and that was delicious too.        $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 26, 2015, 01:08:37 pm

I'm dreaming now but imagine eating their delicious fish dishes in a second floor restaurant with an outdoor terrace in a rebuilt Pier Pavilion.


It's just a pipedream Hollins but what an excellent suggestion and location.    It's a shame that they don't make more of the Venue Cymru as a restaurant as the views from it are also superb
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Post by: wrex on April 26, 2015, 04:00:33 pm
Been a few times Hugo,reasonabley priced and always nice,can;t understand why its not open every weekend,show or not.
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Post by: Fester on April 26, 2015, 05:00:53 pm

I'm dreaming now but imagine eating their delicious fish dishes in a second floor restaurant with an outdoor terrace in a rebuilt Pier Pavilion.

Hollins, I'm afraid that dream will have to wait.... we will never see that in our life time, or even in the next generation's life time.
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Post by: DaveR on April 26, 2015, 06:36:42 pm
I love the food there too, just wish they could relocate to different premises.
I'm dreaming now but imagine eating their delicious fish dishes in a second floor restaurant with an outdoor terrace in a rebuilt Pier Pavilion.
I notice that Dylan's is opening in May in that super Art Deco style building on Criccieth promenade. I bet that will be really popular.
Thats a fabulous idea.  $good$

As we all know, Dylans were asked to open in Conwy, then told to go away after spending thousands on preparing plans.  &shake&
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2015, 11:54:16 am
I see in the news today that Costa Coffee are opening 569 new coffee shops over the next few years. I wonder if another Llandudno outlet is on the cards, given how popular it is? Maybe another branch at the top end of town?
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Post by: SDQ on April 28, 2015, 12:28:30 pm
I see in the news today that Costa Coffee are opening 569 new coffee shops over the next few years. I wonder if another Llandudno outlet is on the cards, given how popular it is? Maybe another branch at the top end of town?


I was surprised one didn't open in the refurbished railway station building to be honest.
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2015, 12:30:00 pm
I see in the news today that Costa Coffee are opening 569 new coffee shops over the next few years. I wonder if another Llandudno outlet is on the cards, given how popular it is? Maybe another branch at the top end of town?


I was surprised one didn't open in the refurbished railway station building to be honest.
That's not a bad idea, although I did have a look around when the work was finished and its not that big a space inside.
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Post by: Fester on April 28, 2015, 01:20:21 pm
It would be a good concession to have beneath The Clarence Travelodge.
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2015, 01:36:58 pm
It would be a good concession to have beneath The Clarence Travelodge.
Definitely.  $good$
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Post by: hollins on April 29, 2015, 08:50:03 am


As we all know, Dylans were asked to open in Conwy, then told to go away after spending thousands on preparing plans.  &shake&


There is an interview with the owner of Dylan's in the Daily Post saying they have not given up on the Conwy branch.

"Plans to expand in the future

Dylan’s have previously stated they would like up to five North Wales restaurants and say they have not given up on Conwy.

A previous bid for a quayside restaurant was rejected by the council after a sudden U-turn.

David said: “We will ensure that Criccieth is bedded in over the next year or so but we will then start to look along the coast to the east of Anglesey.

“We have not given up on Conwy. This was rejected last time but I would like to think people may see what we are doing in Criccieth and reconsider.

“If it is not Conwy we will look elsewhere.”

He added: “In Menai Bridge we have 80 staff and hope over time to have the same in Criccieth so we could become a significant employer in this area.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/watch-dylans-boss-countdown-opening-9135170 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/watch-dylans-boss-countdown-opening-9135170)
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Post by: Tom Davidson on April 29, 2015, 10:03:16 am
King's Head in Llandudno last night for entertainment quiz. Fiendishly difficult. Name of Columbo's dog anyone?  ££$
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Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2015, 10:42:02 am
Name of Columbo's dog anyone?  ££$
Bit of a trick question, that one, I think!
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Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2015, 01:21:07 pm
Name of Columbo's dog anyone?  ££$
Bit of a trick question, that one, I think!

A lot of one if you ask me--- you could have said that it was a Basset Hound though !
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Post by: systema on April 29, 2015, 01:53:50 pm
Dog,   ;)
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Post by: Tom Davidson on April 29, 2015, 02:17:34 pm
I was barking up the wrong tree for the whole quiz.
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Post by: Hugo on April 29, 2015, 02:41:53 pm
Apparently the dog was also called Fang in one episode according to Google but that's me cheating.    :-[
Are there any rules on Quizes nowadays to prevent any such cheating?   
With the internet and mobile phones you can find out most of the answers and even years ago, before mobile phones came in I can remember people going out of the room on some pretence and then phoning someone up for the answer.
I can't see any satisfaction being gained from doing that.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2015, 03:22:04 pm
I only found out that 'Dog' was a Basset Hound via Google Hugo, but thereagain we weren't actually in the quiz were we? ?{}?
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Post by: born2run on April 30, 2015, 09:55:59 am
Apparently the dog was also called Fang in one episode according to Google but that's me cheating.    :-[
Are there any rules on Quizes nowadays to prevent any such cheating?   
With the internet and mobile phones you can find out most of the answers and even years ago, before mobile phones came in I can remember people going out of the room on some pretence and then phoning someone up for the answer.
I can't see any satisfaction being gained from doing that.

That's why I don't bother much with quizzes anymore. Someone will always cheat and you get ridiculous scores.
The only way it can be prevented is what a lot of pubs do now is to do a round of 5 or 10 questions, no phones out nobody to leave their seats then reveal the answers at the end of each round. Unfortunately I don't think any of them do it round here
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Post by: Hugo on April 30, 2015, 10:52:45 am
I'm with you all the way on that BTR.       I can't see any point in doing a quiz if you're going to cheat, there's no satisfaction gained from winning like that.
It's a shame, as it spoils it for the others who don't cheat.
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Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2015, 09:33:36 am
It's pleasing to see that the Seahorse Restaurant has been selected as a Finalist in the Welsh Food Awards 2015. Well done Don!  $good$
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Post by: wrex on May 03, 2015, 04:49:21 pm
Snooze bar open x
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Post by: Fester on May 03, 2015, 10:58:02 pm
I went in Snooze Bar tonight..... it's OK.

Tastefully decorated, but a sign outside saying 'No card payments, Cash Only', surprised me..... it looks a tad amateurish, and they have been preparing this opening for over a year! 

I'm sure these things will be resolved, it was very busy inside.... and I'll be giving it a few visits.
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2015, 09:30:37 am
We had Dinner in Home Cookin last night, a pleasant meal and it's easy to see why it's always busy.
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2015, 09:31:57 am
I saw the other day that Cafe Express now has a new name...
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Post by: wrex on May 17, 2015, 09:53:42 am
Had an excellent meal in Le Gatte last night in Craig-y-don last night nice people in charge and the food was excellent then a few scoops in the Snowdon and Snooze bar before ending up in the Grand hotel dancing the night away,now i need some asprin.
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Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2015, 09:37:39 am
Snooze Bar was busy when we went in last week. Nice to see somewhere a little upmarket opening.
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Post by: born2run on May 18, 2015, 12:00:02 pm
Avoid the chippy across the road from Gloddath church like the plague!!
It used to be good run by a really nice guy who gave good value for money.
Went in yesterday, don't know if it's been taken over or it was a mate helping him out but there was some gormless lad behind the counter, could hardly speak a word of English.There was two elderly holiday makers there already complaining about God knows what. That should have given me the clue to bolt! I ordered a large chips and cheese - £4.20....yes £4.20!

You should have seen the portion, it was a standard portion not large, there was about 2 blobs of cheese on it, literally two blobs. He didn't ask if I wanted salt and vinegar or put any on.

My missus took it back and made him put more cheese on, where he added about another 2 blobs

What a farce!
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Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2015, 10:45:37 am
Avoid the chippy across the road from Gloddath church like the plague!!
It used to be good run by a really nice guy who gave good value for money.
Went in yesterday, don't know if it's been taken over or it was a mate helping him out but there was some gormless lad behind the counter, could hardly speak a word of English.There was two elderly holiday makers there already complaining about God knows what. That should have given me the clue to bolt! I ordered a large chips and cheese - £4.20....yes £4.20!

You should have seen the portion, it was a standard portion not large, there was about 2 blobs of cheese on it, literally two blobs. He didn't ask if I wanted salt and vinegar or put any on.

My missus took it back and made him put more cheese on, where he added about another 2 blobs

What a farce!
Used to be called Gardners, I think, but that was years ago.

What's the best chippy in Llandudno - all opinions welcome! I think Fish Tram Chips is excellent, myself.
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Post by: born2run on May 19, 2015, 11:20:27 am
The one in West Shore nearest Dyfryn Road school. Good value as well. $good$
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Post by: wrex on May 19, 2015, 12:04:22 pm
Ormeview for me.
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Post by: Bellringer on May 19, 2015, 12:58:26 pm
Harbour View in Deganwy takes some beating.
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Post by: born2run on May 19, 2015, 01:23:28 pm
Harbour View in Deganwy takes some beating.

Not on price :o
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Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2015, 02:09:16 pm
Enochs in the Junction does a fantastic fish & chips too.  $good$
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Post by: born2run on May 19, 2015, 03:17:39 pm
Archways  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2015, 03:52:38 pm
In Conwy, the Galleon is my favourite.  $good$
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Post by: Fester on May 21, 2015, 02:07:45 pm
Archways... agreed.

Having said that, I am yet to try Enoch's.
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Post by: hollins on May 29, 2015, 07:23:18 am
Spurred on by the recent posts on local chippies we went to Enoch's yesterday.
Our only regret was that we had not been before as it was super.
It has got a lot going for it apart from the delicious food. They are open all afternoon which suits our preferred late lunch eating time. The interior is very attractive and the service was so cheerful and friendly.
Take a bow Kayleigh, you would cheer up the most depressed soul.
I asked for plaice and was offered a choice of breaded, battered or poached and also a choice between mushy or garden peas.
It was so delicious, the breadcrumbs were crispy and the fish, flaky white inside.
We were surprised to see that they had a good selection of local beers and Mr Hollins tried an Orme one which he said was good.

Just before we went in the mystery cavalcade of police bikes, unmarked police cars were closely escorting the white Audi again which was mentioned on here last week. I wonder if they are practising for something?
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Post by: Tom Davidson on June 01, 2015, 11:20:26 am
I was in Town House in Llandudno on Saturday - they appear to be trying to brand themselves as a cafe and a bar. That's all well and good but the coffee machine didn't even work. And the barmaid didn't know what an espresso was. Worrying.

In other news I was in the newly-opened Bank of Conwy on Sunday. It's got a very intimidating selection of continental lagers from all over Europe. Pricey but very tasteful decor and a cut above the usual. The barman told us they had run out of food on Saturday night and didn't serve any on Sunday!
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Post by: DaveR on June 01, 2015, 11:36:28 am
Just before we went in the mystery cavalcade of police bikes, unmarked police cars were closely escorting the white Audi again which was mentioned on here last week. I wonder if they are practising for something?
When returning from Manchester Airport, we saw a convoy of police vehicles on the motorway by Chester, heading back from North Wales. There was a large police prisoner lorry, with 2 police cars in front and 3 behind it, all with blue lights flashing.
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Post by: Tom Davidson on June 01, 2015, 12:17:42 pm
The police escort is to do with Paul Williams, a drug dealer from Bangor currently on trial at Caernarfon Crown - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paul-williams-bangor-drug-boss-9297467 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paul-williams-bangor-drug-boss-9297467)
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Post by: DaveR on June 01, 2015, 12:33:17 pm
The police escort is to do with Paul Williams, a drug dealer from Bangor currently on trial at Caernarfon Crown - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paul-williams-bangor-drug-boss-9297467 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paul-williams-bangor-drug-boss-9297467)
That explains it, thank you!
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Post by: Michael on June 01, 2015, 07:28:26 pm
   The Police must think that there s a chance of a massive escape plan on the cards. Is a comparatively small drug dealer could get that sort of support?  Must be mega cash around
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Post by: Michael on June 01, 2015, 07:28:52 pm
   The Police must think that there s a chance of a massive escape plan on the cards. Is a comparatively small drug dealer could get that sort of support?  Must be mega cash around
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Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2015, 08:43:48 am
   The Police must think that there s a chance of a massive escape plan on the cards. Is a comparatively small drug dealer could get that sort of support?  Must be mega cash around
It does seem like a lot of attention, the sort of convoy that you would only usually see for terrorist trials and the like.
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Post by: spotty dog on June 02, 2015, 05:31:05 pm
bank of conwy
Decor is very good but she has run out of money to finish kitchen,( looking for second hand one ) has a donation page on facebook. At present is outsourcing catering not the ideal start but I hope all goes well Her business plan would make interesting reading   
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Post by: Tom Davidson on June 02, 2015, 06:37:46 pm
I hear their attempted kickstarter failed as well.
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Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 08:46:54 am
It seems an odd idea to try and fund a business through donations? :o
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Post by: born2run on June 03, 2015, 10:25:15 am
Walked past the Snooze bar on the weekend. Will have to try and get in and sample it before it closes down.
Noticed their exhaustive list of people they won't let in

No Shorts
No Football shirts
No hats
No Tracksuits
No Scallywags or Ruffians

good luck to them by diminishing their potential market of tourists by about 80% on hot days  ££$
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Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 11:32:58 am
I hear that The Greenery cafe on Lloyd Street has been sold.
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Post by: Fester on June 03, 2015, 12:19:16 pm
It seems an odd idea to try and fund a business through donations? :o

I actually think that it's a great idea, and one that I am actively considering.

A simple outlay on a hat, and a little sign.  Then I can sit cross-legged whilst passers-by toss coins into the hat.
No rent, no stock to purchase, no risk and no tax.   I tell you, it's the way forward.

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Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2015, 10:33:55 am
The new Fortes Ice Cream Parlour opened in the old Bettys Fabrics shop at the bottom end of Mostyn Street this weekend. Looks very classy.  $good$
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Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2015, 11:31:33 am
I hear that The Greenery cafe on Lloyd Street has been sold.
New owners moved in this week....... ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 08, 2015, 12:16:41 pm
I went to Bee Inn in Eglwysbach on Sunday. First rate service, food and decor.

My only criticism would be that I found it a bit odd Yorkshire puds were only standard with roast beef dinner... Luckily they let us request one to go with our lamb  :D
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Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2015, 12:52:26 pm
I went to Bee Inn in Eglwysbach on Sunday. First rate service, food and decor.

My only criticism would be that I found it a bit odd Yorkshire puds were only standard with roast beef dinner... Luckily they let us request one to go with our lamb  :D
Funnily enough, I had exactly the same problem yesterday at the Glasfryn in Mold. I had the chicken roast dinner but only my partner (who had the beef version) received a Yorkshire pud. Excellent meal though, it's well worth a visit, same company as owns the Pen Y Bryn in Upper Colwyn Bay.

http://www.brunningandprice.co.uk/glasfryn/ (http://www.brunningandprice.co.uk/glasfryn/)
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2015, 12:47:10 pm
Mostyns Cafe in Mostyn Street is up for sale, £55k Premium.
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Post by: Tom Davidson on June 17, 2015, 02:06:11 pm
Went to Bank of Conwy for a meal last week - and very good it was too.

 A bit pricey though (the mark up on tapas food must be astronomical) but the lager selection is excellent and the bar service very good.

Taste test coming in the Daily Post (not this week however)
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Post by: Michael on June 17, 2015, 07:46:07 pm
 Tom. Please do your best to produce a genuine taste test as was the norm when it started twenty years ago.
   I presume that the actual visit has already happened. You just haven't got around yet to printing it. Because otherwise you are giving the establishment advance notice of your intended visit. Definitely not recommended. Mike
   P.S. I will never, ever forget a taste test printed maybe 15 years ago. In the Post of course. Memory tells me it was somewhere around the Northop Mold area. It was unbelievably down to the knuckle with their criticisms. Every mortal thing from service, price, quality, toilets, etc etc etc. I remember talking about it to some friend and I said I will bet, first thing on Monday morning, the restaurant owner will be straight to his solicitor to see what if anything he could do. Oh, and the reviewer was definatelty NOT the late Mr Skidmore. He liked everywhere. If he didn't like it, he didn't print it
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Post by: Michael on June 17, 2015, 07:56:56 pm
  DaveR,s post about the sale of the Mostyn cafe. Buy there and you buy a place in the sandwich (no pun) board battle of the Century. Mostyn v what was the Town House. Back to back, not one inch over the border otherwise there is trouble, strategic times of placing and replacing and even taking away.
  My simphaty is entirely with the Mostryn. If they cannot advertise themselves, how is anyone supposed to know they even exist?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 18, 2015, 02:42:55 pm
Hi OrmeGolf,

I do my best to be a discerning critic in taste tests. I'll admit I've been fortunate to only go to fairly good eateries (in North Wales at least). So far my taste tests for the Post have been The Departure Lounge in Abergele, Castle Hotel in Conwy, Paysanne in Deganwy and The Gresham in Llandudno. With Bank of Conwy forthcoming.

Paysanne definitely the pick of the bunch, in my opinion it's the supreme place to eat in the county, ahead even of Signatures. Helped a great deal by Cai's hosting.

I do like the food at Hickory's too but I try to steer clear of anything too saturated by sickly-sweet barbecue sauce.

 



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Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2015, 03:34:12 pm
Have you been to the Seahorse, Tom?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 18, 2015, 03:44:01 pm
Not yet! Does it have a DaveR recommendation?
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Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2015, 04:04:39 pm
Not yet! Does it have a DaveR recommendation?
Definitely! The Gressingham Duck in a sweet oriental plum sauce is my favourite main course there, with the Platter of smoked salmon with a whisky and dill dressing for starter. Yum!!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 18, 2015, 04:18:23 pm
I will have to check it out - perhaps when my parents are picking up the bill  D)
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Post by: Michael on June 18, 2015, 07:34:57 pm
  Thanks Tom for replying to me in such a civil manner. To be honest I didn't really expect a reply at all.
  I must be truthful and its won't be nice reading for the Daily Post high executives. So Tom---cover your eyes.
   Over the last five/six years I have become convinced that the Taste test was nothing more nor less than a blatant advertisement for the venue being visited. So much so that I assumed it was now all above board and public knowledge. An agreed sum of money changes hands for what is to all intents a full page advert, but read by more readers than an advert usually gets.
  So, Tom, I take my thoughts back. At least as far as any of your visits are concerned. Are the visiting guests still mentioned by name? Do they introduce themselves after the meal? I don't know the present practice because I gave up reading them years ago because I was fed up of reading the same old marvellous, unbelievable, wonderfuls. mike
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 18, 2015, 08:26:54 pm
First let me be clear to say I don't speak for the Daily Post on this, just my personal opinion:

I do agree taste test's in the DP can be a bit too positive, I think a discerning critic is what's best for all, especially as some establishments could probably do with some constructive criticism.

It's important to remember the reviews are not anonymous so complete slayings are discouraged - you never know if a business owner might take it the wrong way. I remember a taste test I did for a previous paper while on work ex which was overly acerbic and I was told to tone it down. Chances are if you hint at inadequacies, they'll be picked up on by the reader.   

I can assure you though no payment is involved for a taste test (or at least, I'm yet to receive one).

Oh and I forgot I did a taste test for The King's Head in Llandudno. Wasn't much a fan of that one (good beer and decent food, bad service).


Edit: To add, I personally prefer to go in unannounced on a review and have them only find out when our toggy goes to take a shot of the establishment, I know others might think differently. Sometimes they do know ahead of time due to stories I've done on the business (Departure Lounge, Paysanne) and, if so, I like to include that in the review - in the interests of full disclosure.
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Post by: Tom Davidson on June 19, 2015, 01:06:50 am
Liverpool Arms on Conwy Quay boarded up this evening.
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Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2015, 08:33:40 am
Liverpool Arms on Conwy Quay boarded up this evening.
Wow! What's happened there?
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Post by: born2run on June 19, 2015, 09:00:31 am
Pirate weekend tomorrow as well.  &shake&
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Post by: Fester on June 19, 2015, 11:24:27 am
Liverpool Arms on Conwy Quay boarded up this evening.
Wow! What's happened there?

I did hear a rumour that it was close to going out of business.... I didn't believe it though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 19, 2015, 11:28:17 am
Why close the day before their most profitable day of they year!!
Makes no sense at all
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Post by: Fester on June 19, 2015, 11:29:07 am
Just found out...  (re Liverpool Arms).

Sadly, they were evicted yesterday.

The family got involved in a disastrous property development in Conwy, one which eventually lost them a shed-load, and their living.
It's very sad.
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Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2015, 12:21:19 pm
involved in a disastrous property development in Conwy
Where was this?
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Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2015, 12:46:08 pm
A new lease has been agreed for the former Mr Bs Bistro in Upper Mostyn Street.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2015, 12:47:04 pm
Down near the quayside, a large property purchased with colleagues... and renovated to a VERY high standard.
Put up for sale at £360k,   eventually sold at less than £220k

The irony is, it has sold to an investor from the middle east (Dubai actually), who ripped it apart, refurbed it again.. but has never set foot in it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2015, 12:54:16 pm
Down near the quayside, a large property purchased with colleagues... and renovated to a VERY high standard.
Put up for sale at £360k,   eventually sold at less than £220k

The irony is, it has sold to an investor from the middle east (Dubai actually), who ripped it apart, refurbed it again.. but has never set foot in it.
I think I know the property, its just behind the Liverpool Arms?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2015, 01:34:47 pm
That's the one.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 19, 2015, 01:39:45 pm
ran past there at lunch very depressing site, quay full of tourists and all they have going for them is an ice cream kiosk and a house that isn't very big.  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tillymint on June 19, 2015, 05:55:10 pm
The property you are referring to on Lower Gate St, Conwy was purchased, refurbed and sold by a different former pub Landlord in Conwy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 19, 2015, 05:57:05 pm
Here's what the Post have got on the Liverpool Arms closure: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-pub-closed-after-9492772 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-pub-closed-after-9492772)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tillymint on June 19, 2015, 08:39:14 pm
There is no news like someone else's bad news is there? &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 19, 2015, 08:58:30 pm
Obviously it is sad news, both for the couple who I believe have lost their home and for the town which, for the time being, has lost a business.

However it's a prominent pub ahead of what is anticipated to be a very busy weekend.

Rest assured every effort has been made to contact the couple to put their side of the story across.

I think the Daily Post would have been remiss to ignore the story altogether. It was a real shock to many in the town and our job is to inform on matters of public interest, which I think this falls under.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2015, 11:14:03 pm
The property you are referring to on Lower Gate St, Conwy was purchased, refurbed and sold by a different former pub Landlord in Conwy.

They were colleagues in the venture Tillymint.
I'm not wrong about this by the way, but it is intensely sad..... it could happen to any one of us.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tillymint on June 20, 2015, 01:08:37 am
I am sorry Fester but you are wrong, they were not colleagues at all. One was a former Landlord at the George and Dragon in Conwy ..... this was the gent involved in the refurb of the property on Lower Gate St.

The other gent was the Landlord of the LA until 18th June 2015.

The ONLY other connection is that they share the same surname, with no family history involved.

As far as I am aware one pub was with Punch and the other was with Enterprise, with no financial connection at all.

One of these is a long standing friend of 18 years.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 20, 2015, 09:02:07 am
Incredibly sad - and both poignant and worrying.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
I am sorry Fester but you are wrong, they were not colleagues at all. One was a former Landlord at the George and Dragon in Conwy ..... this was the gent involved in the refurb of the property on Lower Gate St.

The other gent was the Landlord of the LA until 18th June 2015.

The ONLY other connection is that they share the same surname, with no family history involved.

As far as I am aware one pub was with Punch and the other was with Enterprise, with no financial connection at all.

One of these is a long standing friend of 18 years.

Tillymint, aren't we saying the same thing?
'the other gent was the Landlord of the LA until 18th June 2015....'    (i.e just the other day??)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 22, 2015, 12:35:37 pm
I am sorry Fester but you are wrong, they were not colleagues at all. One was a former Landlord at the George and Dragon in Conwy ..... this was the gent involved in the refurb of the property on Lower Gate St.

The other gent was the Landlord of the LA until 18th June 2015.

The ONLY other connection is that they share the same surname, with no family history involved.

As far as I am aware one pub was with Punch and the other was with Enterprise, with no financial connection at all.

One of these is a long standing friend of 18 years.

Tillymint, aren't we saying the same thing?
'the other gent was the Landlord of the LA until 18th June 2015....'    (i.e just the other day??)

Unless he means Los Angeles  Z** ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on June 22, 2015, 12:55:39 pm
This may be controversial, but the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool Arms had been in decline for sometime.  Once a delightful pub, it had become very a tatty and grubby establishment which often ran out of beer at busy periods. The George and Dragon was little better and desperately needs the refit that it's currently undergoing. The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally, and that the requirement is for well run clean pubs, not 'dives'. Let's hope that the LA re-opens with a refurbishment; it's a fantastic location with virtually a captive audience, and correctly run will undoubtedly be a very successful venture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on June 22, 2015, 02:11:42 pm
This may be controversial, but the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool Arms had been in decline for sometime.  Once a delightful pub, it had become very a tatty and grubby establishment which often ran out of beer at busy periods. The George and Dragon was little better and desperately needs the refit that it's currently undergoing. The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally, and that the requirement is for well run clean pubs, not 'dives'. Let's hope that the LA re-opens with a refurbishment; it's a fantastic location with virtually a captive audience, and correctly run will undoubtedly be a very successful venture.

"The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally"

Two of those have only just opened! They don't show anything. I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Come back in a year and we'll see if they are still doing well. My guess is that in the winter they will be deserted.
Where as a 'dive' as you put it, will have a steady stream of local customers all year round. Just like the Malt loaf and mail coach do  that have been open years.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 26, 2015, 09:01:35 am
A new lease has been agreed for the former Mr Bs Bistro in Upper Mostyn Street.

Sadly fallen through so back on the market.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 26, 2015, 09:36:48 am
Quote
I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Sad lack of juggling and magic shops, locally.   :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 26, 2015, 10:14:02 am
Quote
I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Sad lack of juggling and magic shops, locally.   :)

Janet Haworth AM................would be interested.....  :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 27, 2015, 01:37:19 pm
Nice pizza in Snooze bar last night,very busy and nice to see ,then ended up in Cooneys what a contrast,but that is always good,you know what you are getting and Cooneys was busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 27, 2015, 03:46:13 pm
Nice pizza in Snooze bar last night,very busy and nice to see ,then ended up in Cooneys what a contrast,but that is always good,you know what you are getting and Cooneys was busy.

After reading your post, I tried to find their menu on line, ended up on Tripadvisor ...........Interesting comments, all but one positive, bearing in mind the discussion on the "No Riff Raff" sign outside, the majority seem to appreciate the policy.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d7247448-Reviews-Snooze-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d7247448-Reviews-Snooze-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html#REVIEWS)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on June 27, 2015, 08:51:08 pm
  Just for a laugh ----- true story of me going into the Liverpool Arms in Conwy 25 years ago when it was run by a very enthusiastic young manager. Heaving with customers and staff in the tiny bar.
   Young manager shouting "hold on. Hold on everyone. Stop serving. Just for a minute. For a joke."
   "What happens when an eskimo goes for a pee?"   The manager grabs a handful of ice cubes from the bucket and proceeds to propel them like bullets all over the floor of the bar serving area.
   "O.K. now, everybody back to serving."
     Hugh laughs all round. Especially when first one, then another, then another bar staff slipped and fell over the ice.
    Oh if only youtube had been invented in those days
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 20, 2015, 09:43:58 am
Liverpool Arms had boarding down and lots of renovation work going on inside on Saturday.

Also, Conwy was rammed. Stopped three tourists from feeding the bloody seagulls.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 23, 2015, 01:52:53 pm
Dozens battle for Liverpool Arms licensee job in Conwy

Fifty applicants are battling to become the new licensee at Conwy’s most iconic pub.
Last month the Liverpool Arms located on Conwy’s quayside suddenly closed after it was shut down by its parent company Enterprise Inns who went to court to remove the publicans just before Conwy’s Pirate Weekend.
Since then the pub has looked a sorry sight with windows fitted with metal grills. Locals says the quayside has also become visibly quieter since the closure.

But such is the interest in the pub that Enterprise Inns have had to extend interviews for a new publican.
Matt Frost Enterprise Inns area manager said: “I can confirm interviews have had to be extended into four days, as there are 50 applicants.
“It is very unusual as we hadn’t even advertised the pub, people have just heard through the grapevine.
“We are taking our time to find the right applicant, somebody who is local and understands the local community and cares about the area.
MORE..http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dozens-battle-liverpool-arms-licensee-9713164 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dozens-battle-liverpool-arms-licensee-9713164)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 23, 2015, 06:54:20 pm
Today I was treated by my wife to an afternoon tea at the St Tudno's Hotel in Llandudno and what a treat it was.   Tea & Coffee and a  selection of cut finger sandwiches on either white or brown bread of Highland Smoked Salmon with Fresh Cucumber, Roast Honey Baked Ham with English Mustard Egg Mayonnaise
Then Warm home made Scone with Butter Whipped Cream and Preserve, Welsh Cake with Hot Melted Butter,  Slice of Buttered Bara Birth
Followed by Freshly Made Assortment of Cakes of the Day.
Everything was delicious and very well presented but it turned out that my eyes were bigger than my belly and we had to take some home in a doggie bag.
But what an enjoyable experience with very friendly and helpful staff.    From this ideal location we could see the visitors having a great time in the Summer sunshine.  The pleasure boats were full as were the land trains that kept passing by all the time and the children were enjoying the nearby Punch and Judy show.
We will be going back there asap as it was excellent value for £11.95         $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 26, 2015, 12:39:09 pm
My wife and I enjoyed a lovely evening with a couple of friends last night at The Toad in Colwyn Bay.   We all enjoyed our meals which were
very tasty and well presented.
The friends were very impressed with everything about the restaurant and I'm sure that they will be back when they next visit the area.   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 26, 2015, 02:37:00 pm
We have just returned from an excellent lunch in Watkin & Co in the Empire Hotel together with a harpist.

From past experience, we have found sunday lunch is not always available for non-residents.

When it is, I recommend it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 26, 2015, 06:08:35 pm
I've always enjoyed a nice meal in the Poolside bar but a neighbour recently told me about the Watkin & co and how much she liked it there so I must put that on my list for places to go to.
Thanks Bri for recommending it.        $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 27, 2015, 10:38:12 am
Paysanne featured in Olive Magazine this month. My congrats to Cai - http://www.olivemagazine.com/restaurants-and-travel/the-best-mediterranean-restaurants-in-the-uk/10234.html (http://www.olivemagazine.com/restaurants-and-travel/the-best-mediterranean-restaurants-in-the-uk/10234.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2015, 10:56:31 am
Sounds excellent. And well done to them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on July 28, 2015, 06:56:06 pm
I have got a Swiss friend staying with me at the moment so we had a super treat today, lunch at Bodysgallen Hall. It makes such a great day out with the walk around the garden afterwards and this time we were so lucky to be sat in the big window with fabulous views.
Good value considering the high level of excellent friendly service and well cooked food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2015, 10:31:29 pm
A great photo of that cake Hollins,  the others are good too.      ;D

We are going there for afternoon tea soon so I hope that our cakes will be as nice as yours.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 29, 2015, 04:34:01 pm
New licensee of Conwy's Liverpool Arms Pub appointed

Two local businessmen have been appointed as the new landlords of the iconic Liverpool Arms pub on Conwy Quay.
Lance Scally, who is already the owner of the Castle View in Deganwy and The Gladstone in Dwygyfylchi, and Toby Watson, who owns Watson Catering Services and Outside Catering Co based in Llandudno, beat 50 other applicants to take on the role.
The pub was closed suddenly last month by Enterprise Inns, and has looked a sorry sight ever since with boarded up windows, while the Quay has been noticeably quiet.

Matt Croft, regional manager of Enterprise Inns said: “We believe that the experience and combination of skills that Lance and Toby will bring to the Liverpool Arms has justified our decision in appointing them from what was a difficult choice.
“They are both well-known in the county, and understand the local community.”

The pub has undergone a programme of refurbishment, including new toilets, internal decoration, kitchen fit out and a full cellar refurbishment. Following completion of the works, the Liverpool Arms will reopen early August.
Toby said: “We are looking to establish the Liverpool Arms as a quality drink and food quayside venue within Conwy and provide the community with a local hub in such a fantastic location.
“We have listened to both previous customers and staff and we believe that the offering provided will reflect the needs of locals and tourists alike.”

Lance said: “When we reopen in early August we look forward to welcoming back the loyal customer base that Jon and Clare Roberts built up over the last 18 years and a return to its former glory with a creation of the “Pub is the Hub” atmosphere.
Lance confirmed the first floor will be opened for the first time in the near future, and the pub will be serving food such as local Conwy mussels with chips. REFDPost
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on July 29, 2015, 04:53:30 pm
I would really like to believe that this is positive news, but based on The Gladstone and Castle View, I'm not optimistic.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Daihardwelshman on July 30, 2015, 09:34:06 am
If Toby is be doing the food then the food will be of a high standard. Knowing Toby and his outside catering company, there offering is a of a very high standard.

Good luck to them both.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2015, 09:42:58 am
I see that the Coffee Centre (next to Marks & Spencer) is up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 04, 2015, 12:10:14 pm
Not surprised, I remember your list. Way too many of the places!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2015, 12:41:42 pm
Not surprised, I remember your list. Way too many of the places!
Rent is a thousand pounds a week, which is a lot of teas and coffees!  ££$

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=1237&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=1237&o=1)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 04, 2015, 12:44:53 pm
Perfect spot for a pub that  $good$

Not at that rent though
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2015, 01:09:29 pm
Perfect spot for a pub that  $good$

Not at that rent though
Funnily enough, there was a Pub just a few doors away until 1980, where 'Hotter Shoes' is now. It was called the Harrington, originally Harrington House.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 04, 2015, 02:02:11 pm
This one, DaveR, next to Fortes?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 04, 2015, 02:55:29 pm
I would love a pub on that side of the street again - perfect line between the Kings arms and the Carlton since the demise of the Alex.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2015, 06:32:42 pm
Begging letters at the ready......


Dylan's Criccieth restaurant serves 30,000 people in its first three months

Restaurant group Dylan’s is repeating its stunning success on Anglesey with a fantastic opening three months in Criccieth.
The new seafood led restaurant at the Grade II listed Morannedd building in Criccieth opened in May - three years after they opened their first establishment in Menai Bridge.
Speaking to Business Post owner David Evans said he was nervous until the day they opened about whether people would come through the doors at the new eaterie.
But he said he knew from day one of opening the restaurant, overlooking Criccieth castle and its beach, it would work.
David, who has enjoyed a previous successful career in fashion retail, said: “It is always hard before you open because you never know until that first day whether people will come or not.

He added: “We would like a third site, in the Conwy area, although it is going to be very difficult to find something that matches what we have in Criccieth and Menai Bridge.

MORE....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-criccieth-restaurant-serves-30000-9786268 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-criccieth-restaurant-serves-30000-9786268)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 05, 2015, 08:31:24 am
As you may have seen on my tweets (@DPTomDavidson) I was at Dylan's in Menai Bridge on Monday and Graham Rees wasn't hiding his disdain for the fact Dylan's lost out on Conwy quay project.

I must say I agree, perfect sort of establishment for Conwy and ideal location overlooking quay - very similar to current set up of Menai Bridge eaterie.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2015, 09:34:09 am
As you may have seen on my tweets (@DPTomDavidson) I was at Dylan's in Menai Bridge on Monday and Graham Rees wasn't hiding his disdain for the fact Dylan's lost out on Conwy quay project.

I must say I agree, perfect sort of establishment for Conwy and ideal location overlooking quay - very similar to current set up of Menai Bridge eaterie.
I agree too, why wouldn't you want a classy venue like Dylans on the Quay?

I'd be tempted though, to put it in that dull paved area next to the Liverpool Arms, and leave the events space free for future use.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 05, 2015, 09:57:17 am
The chance of eating Conwy mussels overlooking the Conwy quay can't be understated I think. A real shame it wasn't more supported by the town, there is no business like it. Plus it should not be for planners to decide on market saturation in terms of eateries - let markets dictate.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 05, 2015, 10:18:08 am
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Plus it should not be for planners to decide on market saturation in terms of eateries - let markets dictate.

Theoretically, surely shouldn't the planners attempt to represent the implied wishes of the electorate? But it's an interesting thought.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 05, 2015, 08:28:24 pm
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Plus it should not be for planners to decide on market saturation in terms of eateries - let markets dictate.

Theoretically, surely shouldn't the planners attempt to represent the implied wishes of the electorate? But it's an interesting thought.


Not with our planners Ian, after all, they are the one's who approved the monstrosity to be built on top of the Library, way back after the fire.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 06, 2015, 01:40:30 pm
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Plus it should not be for planners to decide on market saturation in terms of eateries - let markets dictate.

Theoretically, surely shouldn't the planners attempt to represent the implied wishes of the electorate? But it's an interesting thought.


Not with our planners Ian, after all, they are the one's who approved the monstrosity to be built on top of the Library, way back after the fire.
Planning laws were far less stringent back in 1966, with Conservation Areas only being introduced in 1967 by the Civic Amenities Act.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 07, 2015, 06:29:32 pm
I called at the Toad in Colwyn Bay today and had  Stir fried chicken in ginger, garlic & sweet chilli sauce,  served with wild rice or hand cut chips.  It was from the Toads £5.00 lunch selection and was delicious.
The place was extremely busy and they were having to turn people away as they were full but the staff were excellent and there was no delay in getting our meal.
It made me think about Porth Eirias and wondered if they were doing as well as The Toad.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 12, 2015, 10:42:13 am
Liverpool Arms re-opens officially 12pm today. I'll be there for a quick pint.  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2015, 08:41:21 pm
Look how Conwy Quay's iconic Liverpool Arms looks now it's reopened

MORE AND PHOTOS....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-liverpool-arms-reopen--9843067?utm_content=buffer12512&utm_medium=social&utm_source (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-liverpool-arms-reopen--9843067?utm_content=buffer12512&utm_medium=social&utm_source)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2015, 10:06:04 am
Look how Conwy Quay's iconic Liverpool Arms looks now it's reopened

MORE AND PHOTOS....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-liverpool-arms-reopen--9843067?utm_content=buffer12512&utm_medium=social&utm_source (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-liverpool-arms-reopen--9843067?utm_content=buffer12512&utm_medium=social&utm_source)
It looks pleasant enough, but I dislike how pub companies always try to impose character, i.e the generic 'maritime' photos of fish etc, instead of focussing more on the local history of the pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on August 13, 2015, 10:36:45 am
Look how Conwy Quay's iconic Liverpool Arms looks now it's reopened

MORE AND PHOTOS....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-liverpool-arms-reopen--9843067?utm_content=buffer12512&utm_medium=social&utm_source (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-quay-liverpool-arms-reopen--9843067?utm_content=buffer12512&utm_medium=social&utm_source)
It looks pleasant enough, but I dislike how pub companies always try to impose character, i.e the generic 'maritime' photos of fish etc, instead of focussing more on the local history of the pub.

The Liverpool Arms in Menai Bridge is a perfect example of your post, previously a wonderful busy pub full of local Menai pictures and prints, a real treasure trove of character and atmosphere, popular with locals and visitors. Since it has been refurbished, NASA would be hard pushed to find any atmosphere in there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on August 13, 2015, 11:34:35 am
Much agree. It looks nice and clean, but where is the localisation. Our local iconic ale house has been stripped of its character. There are some decent pubs in conwy now but will this one be able to compete ? I'm not sure..
This is the result of a typical pub company who are interested in rent, inflated wholesale prices and bums on seats..
The free houses in conwy trade far better than these tied leases. Offering much more than standard cooking lagers and bitters. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2015, 12:55:22 pm
Very true Cat Stevens,lets hope Llandudno gets one soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 13, 2015, 02:26:39 pm
Very true Cat Stevens,lets hope Llandudno gets one soon.

They used to have a few
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 13, 2015, 03:33:01 pm
Very true Cat Stevens,lets hope Llandudno gets one soon.

They used to have a few

But.... if people don't actually spend any money in them, and constantly seek the cheap option, they don't survive.

Which is why places like Deganwy Quay, The Seahorse and the new Snooze Bar get my money.... they are expensive, but WELL worth it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 13, 2015, 03:40:29 pm
And where are the young people supposed to go?

It's fine for elderly rich folk like yourself to frequent those places, but what about penniless youngsters like me  ;)?

I'm sure when you were 18/19 you wouldn't have been drinking in those establishments (Or the Bradford versions of them), but I bet that you had a good supply of fun, cheap pubs with great music and great atmosphere. Llandudno did 15 years ago. It doesn't anymore. Why should the next generation be deprived of what we had?

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 14, 2015, 01:01:33 pm
And where are the young people supposed to go?

It's fine for elderly rich folk like yourself to frequent those places, but what about penniless youngsters like me  ;)?

I'm sure when you were 18/19 you wouldn't have been drinking in those establishments (Or the Bradford versions of them), but I bet that you had a good supply of fun, cheap pubs with great music and great atmosphere. Llandudno did 15 years ago. It doesn't anymore. Why should the next generation be deprived of what we had?

The most accurate post I've seen on this Forum, only marred by the word 'rich'
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 17, 2015, 06:44:22 am
Out for a meal in Paysanne on Friday evening - which was excellent - although someone on the table next to me wasn't happy with the menu not changing very often.

At about 9.30pm I went to Prohibition for an after-drink and it was deserted. The place looks to be struggling.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 17, 2015, 09:17:57 am
Paysanne catered for our work BBQ last week. No decent vegetarian options  :-X
Didn't enamour me to want to vist, do want to go Prohibition though, hope it doesn't close
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on August 17, 2015, 09:50:48 am
I find the Paysanne curious, and interesting in a bizarre sort of way, in that I have no idea why people rate it so highly. I have been there four or five times in the past few years (each time to virtually the same menu) because my good chum and his other half are highly enamoured with the place. Mrs B and I find it very passé and overpriced, with, at best, mediocre food, (my grey steak on my last visit was remarkable for being tasteless,) appallingly expensive wine for what it is, and an irritating, annoying and ingratiating patron.   

Yet others love it.

I suppose that it's good to have choices, and not everyone likes the same thing. I'm not suggesting that the Paysanne is so very awful or terribly dreadful, I just don't think it's very good, and I really don't understand why so many people rate it so highly.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 17, 2015, 10:36:44 am
I for one have only had good meals there, I really enjoy it. And it was fully booked on Friday, people queuing out the door.

Cai's schtick might be a bit irritating to some but I'd rather that then a dull host.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on August 17, 2015, 10:59:06 am
Tom, I'm glad that you enjoyed it, it's just that I don't see, or understand, the appeal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 17, 2015, 12:15:43 pm
James Bond went there didn't he? Must be good  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on August 17, 2015, 10:19:02 pm
James Bond went there didn't he? Must be good  8)

Yes but he was shaken to see the same old menu but not stirred to complain!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 17, 2015, 11:38:18 pm
Paysanne catered for our work BBQ last week. No decent vegetarian options  :-X
Didn't enamour me to want to vist, do want to go Prohibition though, hope it doesn't close

If you don't go, then it WILL close..... but brace yourself, you won't like the prices!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 18, 2015, 06:51:04 am
Two for £10 cocktails on Thursday and Sunday isn't bad. Just steer clear of the "Station Road Mule" it was a real carthorse.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on August 24, 2015, 01:03:52 pm
I'd be grateful for a few recommendations for restaurants in central(ish) Llandudno, specifically that do reasonably priced lunch, and are not too crowded at this time of year. (I realise that it's probably optimistic to ask for both good/reasonable-cost and not crowded). Any food, including exotic, except fish & chips (although I personally love fish & chips). Thanks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 24, 2015, 06:25:43 pm
I'd be grateful for a few recommendations for restaurants in central(ish) Llandudno, specifically that do reasonably priced lunch, and are not too crowded at this time of year. (I realise that it's probably optimistic to ask for both good/reasonable-cost and not crowded). Any food, including exotic, except fish & chips (although I personally love fish & chips). Thanks.

The Cambridge ... or The Cottage Loaf.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 24, 2015, 07:03:07 pm
must book loaf
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 24, 2015, 10:38:08 pm
must book loaf

Count us in Mate!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on August 24, 2015, 11:07:58 pm
Thanks for those. The Cambridge looks very interesting, although it only seems to do lunch at the weekend. Cottage Loaf was indeed already fully booked when I phoned (for tomorrow lunchtime).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2015, 06:30:08 pm
Welsh breweries could hit 100 mark within a year     Z**

If the number of independent brewers in Wales continues to rise, it could hit the 100 mark within the next year.
That is the view of the organisation representing micro breweries which says the thirst for craft beer in pubs and beyond shows no signs of drying up.
It comes as the number of traditional pubs have declined, with a pub closing every couple of days in Wales.
But the number of breweries has doubled in the past five years to 88.
MORE...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-34063142 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-34063142)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 30, 2015, 06:18:28 pm
Not sure if ive read it right on St Davids comm,but i think Mr B.s has been let again
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2015, 10:11:50 am
We went to the Olive Grove in Deganwy for lunch the other day. It's under new ownership and is much improved. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on August 31, 2015, 10:56:17 am
We went to the Olive Grove in Deganwy for lunch the other day. It's under new ownership and is much improved. $good$

Thanks, that's good to know, it was previously sadly lacking. The Station Tea Shop a little way down the road has always been absolutely delightful. I had a superb full cooked breakfast there last week.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2015, 10:03:54 am
We went to the Olive Grove in Deganwy for lunch the other day. It's under new ownership and is much improved. $good$

Thanks, that's good to know, it was previously sadly lacking. The Station Tea Shop a little way down the road has always been absolutely delightful. I had a superb full cooked breakfast there last week.
I believe there's a third cafe opening in Deganwy, in the old Antiques shop?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2015, 10:04:34 am
Went to Tops Chinese Restaurant in Craig Y Don last night, as excellent as always. The best Chinese in Llandudno?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on September 01, 2015, 11:34:08 am
I admit that we have not been to Tops, we must try them. We enjoy Nikki Ipps and think that the food is superb. However, it would be improved if the menu changed occasionally.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 01, 2015, 06:45:53 pm
Mango and Bamboo indian restaurant opening soon in the old Volilams
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 02, 2015, 09:11:09 am
I see that the St Tudnos Hotel is now offering a Full Breakfast to non residents, must give it a try.  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 02, 2015, 04:53:57 pm
Omg that is really pushin DaveR,what is wrong with Mollys
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2015, 08:57:16 am
Omg that is really pushin DaveR,what is wrong with Mollys
Try the Inglenook (Vaughan St) full breakfast, it's fabulous.  $good$  $good$  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2015, 09:27:31 am
I believe the Jai Ho Restaurant in Deganwy is up for sale, due to the Owner moving to the former Vollams shop in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 10, 2015, 08:29:32 am
Work going on in Mr B;s,no idea what we are getting
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2015, 07:25:57 pm
We went to Asia for a curry last night, you would not believe how busy it was, people were queuing down the stairs to get in!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 13, 2015, 08:03:38 pm
We went to Asia for a curry last night, you would not believe how busy it was, people were queuing down the stairs to get in!

That's a long way to go for a meal!  :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 13, 2015, 09:22:39 pm
We went to Asia for a curry last night, you would not believe how busy it was, people were queuing down the stairs to get in!

It is a great meal there, but I've never seen it THAT busy!
Usually you are seated straight away.
Go on a Sunday, and one of your main courses is free...... plus it's never too busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2015, 08:23:28 am
Quote
    We went to Asia for a curry last night,
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That's a long way to go for a meal!  :D

Damn!  Should've been quicker!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2015, 09:08:57 am
We went to Asia for a curry last night, you would not believe how busy it was, people were queuing down the stairs to get in!

It is a great meal there, but I've never seen it THAT busy!
Usually you are seated straight away.
Go on a Sunday, and one of your main courses is free...... plus it's never too busy.
It was absolutely heaving, groups of 6 or more turning up all the time whilst we were there. Every table was taken. Great meal too!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 15, 2015, 04:53:54 pm
From the Daily Post:

Two women were injured after a cigarette lighter was dropped into a deep fat fryer which then 'blew up' in a Llandudno cafe.
The incident happened at the Take A Break cafe in Gloddaeth Street at around 1pm today. According to eye-witness reports, one of the women was attempting to light a grill with a lighter when it was dropped into the fat fryer.

They described it then 'popping' and it is understood oil splashed onto at least one of the women. Other witnesses reported seeing a woman coming out of the cafe clutching her face, and being treated in an ambulance. The woman is believed to have been taken to a minor injuries unit for further treatment to her injuries.

A Fire Service spokesman confirmed they had sent two engines from Llandudno, but the fire had already been put out on arrival.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 15, 2015, 07:51:30 pm
Looks like we may be getting a Rubens coffee shop below Travelodge,they seem to have 8 shops all in the merseyside area,look quite nice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2015, 08:27:04 am
Looks like we may be getting a Rubens coffee shop below Travelodge,they seem to have 8 shops all in the merseyside area,look quite nice.
I've been to the the one in Mold, it was fine but  i wouldn't describe it as anything special.

http://www.rubenscoffee.co.uk/ (http://www.rubenscoffee.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 16, 2015, 09:11:43 am
Looks like we may be getting a Rubens coffee shop below Travelodge,they seem to have 8 shops all in the merseyside area,look quite nice.

How much overpriced coffee can one town consume  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2015, 10:34:39 am
Looks like we may be getting a Rubens coffee shop below Travelodge,they seem to have 8 shops all in the merseyside area,look quite nice.

How much overpriced coffee can one town consume  :o
A great deal, it would seem. The cafes and coffee shops seemed far busier than the actual shops in town this Summer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 16, 2015, 12:18:39 pm
And pubs  Z**

I will never understand it
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 16, 2015, 07:29:35 pm
there you go then,get out of the pub and into Srarbucks
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 16, 2015, 08:36:29 pm
DaveR lets not get fussy now,jobs.one less empty unit ,and more coffee for everyone
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2015, 08:41:48 am
DaveR lets not get fussy now,jobs.one less empty unit ,and more coffee for everyone
It's a WIN-WIN situation!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2015, 04:20:22 pm
Had a few beers around town last night, the only place which was busy was The Snooze bar.
Every table was taken, almost all were eating meals.  It really is a great addition to Llandudno.

Everywhere else (pubwise) was literally deserted.   It was a lovely night in September, so it was pretty disappointing.
Everywhere open, loads of staff / doormen.. no customers.

Eventually, we went to The Asia,  we were the only ones in, so the service was swift.
Once again, we had a fantastic meal, I can only continue to recommend it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: spotty dog on September 17, 2015, 07:00:17 pm
What's  going  on at the Cambridge  restaurant  ,two members of staff  have not been  paid excuse  is restaurant  is going into liquidation  .There  mothers have been to see management and were given same excuse
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2015, 08:41:09 am
What's  going  on at the Cambridge  restaurant  ,two members of staff  have not been  paid excuse  is restaurant  is going into liquidation  .There  mothers have been to see management and were given same excuse
It's been up for sale for a while now. What a shame, that's no way to treat the staff.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 18, 2015, 03:14:18 pm
What's  going  on at the Cambridge  restaurant  ,two members of staff  have not been  paid excuse  is restaurant  is going into liquidation  .There  mothers have been to see management and were given same excuse

If that were happening to my kids, I'd be removing items to the value of !!  *punch*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2015, 08:05:51 am
Enjoyed a meal in the Mediteraenian last nite,we could not get into La Taverna so we always fall back to the Med.Not sure why this place has no locals but it is always good food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 21, 2015, 09:33:52 am
The Dinorben Arms in Bodfari is set to reopen:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/haunted-bodfari-dinolen-arms-re-10095843#rlabs=4%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/haunted-bodfari-dinolen-arms-re-10095843#rlabs=4%20rt)$sitewide%20p$3
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2015, 09:42:04 am
The Dinorben Arms in Bodfari is set to reopen:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/haunted-bodfari-dinolen-arms-re-10095843#rlabs=4%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/haunted-bodfari-dinolen-arms-re-10095843#rlabs=4%20rt)$sitewide%20p$3
I saw that in the paper too, it's going to need a lot of money spending on it as the site is almost derelict now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 22, 2015, 03:35:37 pm
Just a warning :- My oh has just been to get his car M.O.T test done. Normally he walks over to Asda and has a coffee, but as it was belting it down he nipped into BHS café. It was absolutely filthy, every table littered with dirty crocks, the tables and chairs were filthy and the floor was as bad. At this point I might add that my OH is very outspoken, so when the supervisor, summoned by the staff arrived he took one look at her stained and grubby clothing and commented 'My God You're as bad.' I hate to think what goes on in that kitchen, as he said she looked as though she'd been rolling in the food !

I can just imagine the comments I would have received from CCBC if my 'food areas' had been in this state !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 22, 2015, 05:05:44 pm
That place has a 5 star food hygiene rating which seems unbelievable     :o


It's also No119  out of 144  restaurants  in the best places to eat on trip advisor.    I wouldn't like to see No 120 and the others then     &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 22, 2015, 05:09:03 pm
The Dinorben Arms in Bodfari is set to reopen:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/haunted-bodfari-dinolen-arms-re-10095843#rlabs=4%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/haunted-bodfari-dinolen-arms-re-10095843#rlabs=4%20rt)$sitewide%20p$3
I saw that in the paper too, it's going to need a lot of money spending on it as the site is almost derelict now.

It wasn't looking too good when I last saw it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 22, 2015, 06:06:43 pm
That place has a 5 star food hygiene rating which seems unbelievable     :o


It's also No119  out of 144  restaurants  in the best places to eat on trip advisor.    I wouldn't like to see No 120 and the others then     &shake&

Me neither Hugo !

Just read the Trip Advisor reviews, why don't people report such dreadful situations to the appropriate people, not just rattle on on there ?
Apparently the restaurant is a franchise owned by Compass. They want shooting !!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2015, 08:44:30 am
That place has a 5 star food hygiene rating which seems unbelievable     :o
It would seem that the ratings are perhaps more of a box ticking exercise than anything else, with the corporate caterers being able to afford expensive recording systems?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on September 23, 2015, 01:32:58 pm
It's management complacency, if the paperwork is correct and up to date, that's often all they care about. Anyone can tick a box, not everyone is able to use their initiative and see what needs doing. I always remember a local employer telling her staff   "Never walk back to the kitchen without taking something with you", I often  watch cafe and restaurant staff serving customers  and then returning empty handed  to the kitchen past tables that need clearing. I've often been in a busy restaurant and had to ask for the table to be cleared. On the other hand I can see how employees lack concern when they are dictated to from afar,feel they have to jump through hoops whilst being paid peanuts. That boss would roll her sleeves up and muck in at busy times and the staff always seemed happy and hard working.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 23, 2015, 04:34:44 pm
People who work in shops and don't even speak or look at  the customer whilst serving them is a bigger bug bear for me  $angry$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 23, 2015, 06:11:41 pm
People who work in shops and don't even speak or look at  the customer whilst serving them is a bigger bug bear for me  $angry$

Now that I will not tolerate..................in either direction. I have had people expecting to be served whilst on the phone, or carrying on a conversation with someone else. Both are rude and ill mannered.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 24, 2015, 12:24:43 pm
But what can you do?

The other day in One Stop West Shore went like this.

assistant chatting to her colleague, pauses briefly to look at me

'Could I have ten pounds on this please?' holds out electricity card

Without a word - takes card - continues chatting to colleague - puts transaction through and plonks card and receipt on the till!  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on September 24, 2015, 01:31:38 pm
I would have said can you refund my card please I will go elsewhere ,I have done it ,their faces are a picture gobsmacked , same as someone was going through the till at asda, I was behind and said to the cashier bit rude being on her phone isn't she , ignorant cow soon put the phone away .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 24, 2015, 04:07:21 pm
But what can you do?

The other day in One Stop West Shore went like this.

assistant chatting to her colleague, pauses briefly to look at me

'Could I have ten pounds on this please?' holds out electricity card

Without a word - takes card - continues chatting to colleague - puts transaction through and plonks card and receipt on the till!  :o

B2R,  I'm in there most days sending out parcels.
Trust me when I say that your service on this occasion was mercifully quick!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 26, 2015, 07:07:09 am
When is the Turkish restaurant in Mr B;s opening.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 27, 2015, 08:18:30 pm
Oh it is going to be a smoking pipe bar,loads on the curry mile,our first,interesting
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 28, 2015, 09:24:37 am
What on earth is that?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 28, 2015, 09:41:29 am
Think hookah pipes !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 28, 2015, 10:32:14 am
Still none the wiser.  :-[
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 28, 2015, 10:33:42 am
Still none the wiser.  :-[
This sort of thing:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/e-shisha-how-the-new-vaping-pipe-is-rejuvenating-the-uks-shisha-bar-scene-a6668446.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/e-shisha-how-the-new-vaping-pipe-is-rejuvenating-the-uks-shisha-bar-scene-a6668446.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 28, 2015, 11:49:06 am
we're going backwards!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on September 28, 2015, 12:53:32 pm
Still none the wiser.  :-[
This sort of thing:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/e-shisha-how-the-new-vaping-pipe-is-rejuvenating-the-uks-shisha-bar-scene-a6668446.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/e-shisha-how-the-new-vaping-pipe-is-rejuvenating-the-uks-shisha-bar-scene-a6668446.html)


I look forward to it's first raid from the drug squad!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on September 28, 2015, 06:54:11 pm
Many years ago I tried a proper one in Tunisia, not this E rubbish. Cleared my catarrh for weeks. :o ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on September 28, 2015, 08:20:21 pm
 Get you two in on the opening night for Shisha specials ,the old man will love it.lol
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on September 29, 2015, 07:02:48 pm
Went to Conwy this morning and had a lovely lunch at Amelies Cafe Restaurant on the High Street. It's good enough for me to want to go back and try it again.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2015, 08:32:24 am
Went to Conwy this morning and had a lovely lunch at Amelies Cafe Restaurant on the High Street. It's good enough for me to want to go back and try it again.
Been there several times, it really is very good. Shame it's a little bit hidden away on the first floor, many people seem to miss it.

We had lunch in Time Cafe Bar, Conwy last week. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2015, 11:54:22 pm
Get you two in on the opening night for Shisha specials ,the old man will love it.lol

That Shisha place was open last night, but it's a pretty embarrassing effort really.

They have opened the doors, put a small Egyptian looking rug hanging on the wall, and there was no one in.

Well, why would anyone go in?  There is no bar, no food or alcohol for sale.... and no signage telling anyone what the place offers, what you can be or any prices.   

Went past 3 times, and just saw the owner outside looking panicky on her mobile phone.

Doomed I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on October 04, 2015, 03:33:27 pm
Where is it Fester?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2015, 08:16:04 pm
Where is it Fester?

Opposite Fountains Bar in Upper Mostyn St.
It's what was Pars Restaurant 2 years ago, and was Mr B's restaurant last year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2015, 10:20:03 am
I looked at the St Davids Property website the other day and saw that the Cafe Culture/St Georges Plaice building & businesses were up for sale at £1.7m. I looked again yesterday, and the listing had disappeared...how odd?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2015, 10:23:19 am
Slightly out of our area, but I see that 'Oinkys' diner at the Llanddulas Services is up for sale again. Originally a Happy Eater/Little Chef, it's always struggled due to the fact  that its hidden from the A55 to a large degree.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=1278&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=1278&o=1)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 10, 2015, 12:18:32 pm
Back to Llandudno,Sinatara;s in Madoc st looks interesting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 10, 2015, 08:15:58 pm
What is the background to that particular property in recent years, wrex?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 10, 2015, 11:27:07 pm
bakery and church youth club Bri.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 11, 2015, 09:52:15 am
Thanks, wrex.

Do you know whether or not the former bakery was bought with public funds to turn it into a youth club?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 11, 2015, 05:38:40 pm
I THINK THEY MAY HAVE HAD A GRANT TO RENT IT,BUT I DON;T REMEMBER IT BEING UP FOR SALE SO I THINK THE LEASE MAY HAVE BEEN UP,NOT SURE THOUGH bRI.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 11, 2015, 10:51:02 pm
Thank you, wrex.
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Post by: wrex on October 12, 2015, 12:01:28 pm
Work going on in the small unit below Travelodge,could it be Rubens.
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Post by: Michael on October 12, 2015, 10:48:17 pm
Who or what are Rubens?
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Post by: wrex on October 13, 2015, 07:21:57 am
I hope somebody else can answer this for you Ormegolf,not a lot of interest anymore im afraid.
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Post by: Ian on October 13, 2015, 07:42:31 am
I only know the artist. But somewhere I have a vague recollection of a Bakery?
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Post by: Michael on October 13, 2015, 09:47:49 am
 I imagine you are writing about the two retail outlets alongside the front door of the travel lodge. And the fact that they haven't found a tenant.
  This is not surprising. Anyone who has ever had the slightest involvement in retail will know that the position is paramount. Every potential trader falls into one of two groups. First there is the one selling any sort of goods where footfall outside the premises is essential. The second is a specialist. One where the customerwill find out where it is because they are the only ones that sell these goods or, more likely, provide the service.
  This travel lodge site fails on both counts. First is has hardly anyone passing it. Have YOU ever walked along that side of the road? So it would have to rely on the visitors to the lodge or the adjoining hotels or the few residents that live close by. Secondly, a specialised outlet can go in a secondary street, like back madoc street, and do their trade and save themselves a whole load of rent.
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Post by: wrex on October 13, 2015, 11:31:53 am
Its a coffee shop,Rubens coffee
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Post by: born2run on October 13, 2015, 12:06:00 pm
Its a coffee shop,Rubens coffee

Cos we haven't got enough of them  ???
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Post by: wrex on October 13, 2015, 07:54:34 pm
who cares ,its more jobs and a unit gone.
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Post by: Michael on October 13, 2015, 09:38:53 pm
 It will get customers from the travel lodge and that is about all. Unless Rubens is a well known and must go to name. Then it may get a very small number more.
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Post by: wrex on October 14, 2015, 07:19:24 am
Not defending their choice of venue but there are a lot of people coming from the car parks on Gloddaeth ave so there is a fair bit of passing trade.
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Post by: wrex on October 14, 2015, 07:42:16 pm
Sinartra;s could belong to Characters.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on October 14, 2015, 07:59:03 pm
If it's any help Rubens in mold used to be very good and assuming it hasn't changed will be well placed at the Clarence
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Post by: FatAndy on October 16, 2015, 09:56:37 pm
It will get customers from the travel lodge and that is about all. Unless Rubens is a well known and must go to name. Then it may get a very small number more.

Ruben's have cafes at the Albert Dock and Liverpool Central Station as well several sites on the Wirral, Chester and Mold.  They may not be well known in North Wales but I'm sure a lot of visitors will be well aware of the brand.  I've never been in any of their outlets (although I've walked past all of them bar the ones in West Kirby) but they look ok albeit nothing original or out of the ordinary.   I doubt they'll add much to the local economy, they'll just nab some business some of the several thousand other coffee shops that already exist in Llandudno.

p.s. I hope somebody is planning on building new public toilets in Llandudno because given the amount of coffee that's been produced there these days there must be an imminent risk of flooding.
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Post by: Michael on October 16, 2015, 10:39:05 pm
Hello Wrex, you are right about the car parks but the snag is that most of them would be on the other side of a very wide road. I still maintain that only a trickle of people walk past the travel lodge.
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Post by: wrex on October 17, 2015, 08:24:08 am
Lets ssk Nemisis to do a foot count.lol
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Post by: Nemesis on October 17, 2015, 09:18:46 am
Now Wrex ! A foot count would depend on what time of day that it was done !

Another point......now that Nigel Roberts has gone ,early, leaving everyone in the mire with regards to bread orders etc, Vollams is no more, it leaves whatever shop unit goes in the Travelodge open to get in there with Lottery, papers, sweets and general 'holiday buys', not counting the locals who used to go there for papers, cigs, bread etc . Unless someone takes over the existing newsagents as is.
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Post by: Michael on October 17, 2015, 08:12:35 pm
  I must agree that Nigel Roberts closing has altered the whole situation with the Travel lodge unit. If I could I would probably take back every post I have written about this subject!!! I would have thought that Nigel after years of being at this spot would have been excitedly waiting for a bonanza for papers etc off the travel lodge customers.
  Obviously not. Being, I hope, a friend, if only from the last two or three years, I hope the fairly sudden departure has got nothing to do with the publicity  surrounding Oscar
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Post by: Nemesis on October 17, 2015, 08:21:23 pm
Obviously you have never been 'got at' by Oscar !
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Post by: suepp on October 18, 2015, 09:18:45 am

p.s. I hope somebody is planning on building new public toilets in Llandudno because given the amount of coffee that's been produced there these days there must be an imminent risk of flooding.

And while they are at it, fix the disabled access to the toilets on bog island,  how long has that lift been out of action? I was supporting someone in a wheelchair recently and it seemed to have seized up, hardly convenient for a great many visitors I would have thought
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Post by: Michael on October 18, 2015, 01:29:09 pm
Nemesis - I may have been. I very rarely read Oscar so I wouldn't know
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Post by: Fester on October 19, 2015, 07:13:23 pm
Is there a more impressive setting to sit and enjoy a drink?  We are truly blessed.

Outside the Tower Coffee Bar in Conwy today....   
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Post by: llandudnotrust on October 23, 2015, 10:30:04 am
Sinatra's is part of Characters and hopes to be up and running very soon. I was also told that Nigel's old shop is also being considered for a Coffee Shop/cafe
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Post by: born2run on October 23, 2015, 10:38:52 am
If there is one thing this town needs it's more coffee shops. $good$
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Post by: wrex on October 23, 2015, 09:34:11 pm
give me more coffee x
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Post by: Ian on October 24, 2015, 08:21:46 am
Congratulations to the Ty Asha Balti House in Llanwrst, which has been voted the top place in North Wales to have a curry, in a poll of Daily Post readers.

To celebrate National Curry week the Daily Post asked its readers to nominate the best curry house in North Wales. The 10 with the most nominations were then put on Daily Post's Facebook page, where people had to vote for the overall King of the Curry.

Ty Asha Balti House won with 814 votes when the deadline closed on Wednesday, October, 21 at 12pm.
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Post by: Ian on October 24, 2015, 08:26:01 am
Awarded one Michelin star: Tyddyn Llan, Llandrillo
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Post by: FatAndy on October 24, 2015, 10:10:38 am
When I was younger there used to be a saying that the people of Llandudno must have three legs because there were so many shoe shops in the town.  That needs updating to the people of Llandudno must have three mouths given the increasingly bizarre number of cafes/coffee shops.
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Post by: wrex on October 25, 2015, 07:23:26 pm
We could have a great pub crawl if all these coffee shops started selling alchol.lol
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Post by: wrex on October 25, 2015, 07:25:49 pm
Nice curry in Asia friday night,a nice glass of Malbec in the Snooze bar,standing only then a San Muigel in the Gresh.
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Post by: FatAndy on October 28, 2015, 10:08:15 pm
Llandudno's new hookah bar has popped up on TripAdvisor but there are no reviews yet on the quality of the bongs.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d8755352-Reviews-Sphinx_Shisha_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d8755352-Reviews-Sphinx_Shisha_Cafe-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
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Post by: wrex on November 11, 2015, 07:34:31 am
Took me ages but i finally found unit 2 under offer on the Legat Owen site,obviously not bothered about putting a sign on the unit itself
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Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2015, 09:54:10 am
Another visit to Tops Chinese Restaurant in Craig Y Don last Friday, service and food were excellent as always.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on November 13, 2015, 07:10:45 am
Ruben;s coffee told me nothing is set in stone but watch our website.Sinatra;s will be open next week,well done to the family for investing in Llandudno.
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Post by: wrex on November 21, 2015, 12:41:57 pm
Rumour has it that John from the Penrhyn Arms will be taking over the side bar in the Washington next year and having local young bands playing.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on November 28, 2015, 01:16:57 pm
What has happened to the Bamboo (what's its name) curry house opening. Its all gone a bit quite
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Post by: wrex on November 28, 2015, 04:46:39 pm
bit like the Washington,no hurry whatsoever,it must be an Asian thing.
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Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2015, 10:22:14 am
I see the Take A Break Cafe is currently closed after suffering flooding recently.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 02, 2015, 11:46:16 am
Poor Take a Break, we seem to have posts on many different threads !
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Post by: Bosun on December 07, 2015, 03:45:18 pm
I personally have never set foot in the premises, but it's not exactly decent publicity (although, thinking about it, it might be to some people.....) and it seems that Ms Cooney may soon have to update her LinkedIn profile.......

 http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/155806/police-raise-serious-concerns-over-management-of-llandudno-bar.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/155806/police-raise-serious-concerns-over-management-of-llandudno-bar.aspx)
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Post by: DaveR on December 09, 2015, 08:55:42 am
Went to Jasmine House on Friday night. Decent meal, but I think that Tops is still the best Chinese restaurant in Llandudno.
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Post by: Bellringer on December 09, 2015, 11:43:04 am
Hope our Bellringing didn'T put you off or spoil the evening!!
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Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2015, 10:14:20 am
Hope our Bellringing didn'T put you off or spoil the evening!!
Not at all, Stan, it was very pleasant to hear.  $good$
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Post by: Blongb on December 12, 2015, 01:34:36 pm
I was invited to 3RD SPACE at The Great Orme Brewery, in Builder Street, last night for the opening of their new Craft Ale, Lager & Wine shop / bar. It was a fantastic evening. If you haven't already sampled the delights of this wonderful local establishment, then you don't know what you've been missing.  ZXZ  Z**  ZXZ  ££$  $thanx$  $walesflag$  $good$
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Post by: Hugo on December 12, 2015, 04:09:12 pm
LLandudno restaurant scoops triple award.      I'm not a fan of Indian food but for those that are it's good to have this restaurant in the town

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156065/llandudno-restaurant-scoops-triple-award.aspx#.VmxF6x2MQog.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156065/llandudno-restaurant-scoops-triple-award.aspx#.VmxF6x2MQog.email)
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Post by: squiggle on December 12, 2015, 05:02:50 pm
LLandudno restaurant scoops triple award.      I'm not a fan of Indian food but for those that are it's good to have this restaurant in the town

And I'd take something like a vegetable biryani over most other food - spicy but not say Vindaloo (I don't see point in self torture for something too hot for me to taste) is my way.  I think this restaurant must be after my time but good to see you have one doing well.

Thinkng Indian meals in the area, at one time there was a place in the Junction we used a few times for takeaways at home. They did some splendid stuff that I suspect was more sort of Indian home cooking than standard Indian restaurant.  The only problem was you could wait an hour or more to get the meals.  I don't know what happened to it but we stopped using it for that reason.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 12, 2015, 05:45:57 pm
Went to Jasmine House on Friday night. Decent meal, but I think that Tops is still the best Chinese restaurant in Llandudno.

Not keen on their food hygiene rating ! At least it has now risen from 0 !
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Post by: Blongb on December 13, 2015, 10:10:54 pm
To be fair Nem a lot of the low scores on the doors is due to the fact they have no conception of the paperwork and record keeping that is now required. I much preferred the days of the unannounced visit from the health inspector who actually put his/her white coat on and then carried out a physical audit. Now an inspection is just a box ticking exercise.  &shake&
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Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2015, 08:59:09 am
Agreed Blongb,
I have actually heard of someone who said could the inspector come back when they had cleaned up !
Nowadays the book of 'fill in forms ' which has to be kept up to date, is more important to them than white coats and poking around in corners.
My granddaughter had to take her food hygiene certificate when she got a student job serving ice cream, and did it on line ! That says a lot in my old fashioned mind !
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Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2015, 04:28:31 pm
I've just come home after enjoying a delicious Christmas lunch at Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay.    We both had the Turkey dinner and then the nicest Sticky toffee pudding I've ever tasted.
This was followed by a coffee and mince pie to round off a lovely afternoon meal.        $good$
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Post by: DaveR on December 21, 2015, 11:26:12 am
I've just come home after enjoying a delicious Christmas lunch at Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay.    We both had the Turkey dinner and then the nicest Sticky toffee pudding I've ever tasted.
This was followed by a coffee and mince pie to round off a lovely afternoon meal.        $good$
I had the cooked Breakfast in there the other week, very enjoyable.  $good$
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Post by: Tom Davidson on December 23, 2015, 09:09:04 am
I had an evening meal in Watson's in Conwy last week which was absolutely excellent - and good value too at £22.50 for three courses. Service excellent too. 
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Post by: DaveR on December 23, 2015, 10:07:43 am
I had an evening meal in Watson's in Conwy last week which was absolutely excellent - and good value too at £22.50 for three courses. Service excellent too.
Going for a Sunday lunch there early next year, really looking forward to it.
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Post by: hollins on December 25, 2015, 12:38:46 pm
Xmas present from Mr Hollins.........lunch at the skip on New Year's Eve!
Watch this space!
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Post by: wrex on December 25, 2015, 09:04:22 pm
here too,a voucher for the skip to be used by June so i will wait for Hollins report first.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2015, 04:23:43 pm
Let's hope they have got rid of the leaky roof problem and resulting buckets by the time you go
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Post by: hollins on December 31, 2015, 06:45:22 pm
here too,a voucher for the skip to be used by June so i will wait for Hollins report first.

Lucky you Wrex, get that voucher spent. We had a super lunch there today.


We approached the skip in terrible weather conditions but were greeted very warmly by a Welsh girl who showed us to our table by the window with a great view despite the awful weather.
The restaurant was pretty full and yes it was quite noisy but we thought this made a good atmosphere.
This is where we had two minor hiccups. The first was that no one came to take an order from us, not even for a drink so I got up and found someone which proved to be our saviour as we were treated very well from that point on and were offered and given free desserts for the initial neglect.
The second problem, no sherry! Oh no, better get some Amontillado in for next time Bryn!
The food was delicious, all of it.
Starters, grilled prawns for me and Conwy mussels for Mr H who said the sauce was the best he had had outside France. We both thought these two dishes would have been better served with a basket of bread rolls.
For the main course I had mushroom risotto, lots of different kinds of mushrooms, exactly the right consistency and served very hot. Mr H had the lobster roll and chips.
The desserts were apple crumble with a crispy nutty topping and panna cotta with poached plums.
What made it for us was being able to sit there enjoying excellent food with the ever changing light from the sky on the sea despite the weather being atrocious at the start.
I would say that the younger staff are still unsure exactly what they should be doing but they now have more senior staff on duty intervening if necessary to make sure things are running smoothly.
We both said we should go with an open mind, in particular me because I had been so disappointed by the building itself but we found sitting inside it and especially by the window you soon forgot how awful it was from the outside. In fact having seen it empty and now with a bustling restaurant inside, I think they have done a good job (inside!).
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Post by: hollins on December 31, 2015, 06:53:26 pm
Lunch, part two.
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Post by: rhuddlan on December 31, 2015, 07:38:24 pm
What is the name of the establishment you keep calling the skip?
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Post by: hollins on December 31, 2015, 07:46:40 pm
Sorry.

Bryn Williams at Porth Eirias.

http://portheirias.com/ (http://portheirias.com/)
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Post by: rhuddlan on December 31, 2015, 08:51:13 pm
Thank you.
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Post by: Hugo on January 01, 2016, 12:18:31 pm
Your meal looked and sounded delicious Hollins,  I'll give it a try sometime.       Hope that you enjoyed the rest of the day and Happy New Year to you with many nice holidays to look forward to.
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Post by: hollins on January 01, 2016, 02:32:51 pm
Happy New Year to you too Hugo. I hope you enjoy your meal there as much as we did.
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Post by: hollins on January 04, 2016, 09:10:38 am
This is the reply to my review on Tripadvisor for Bryn Williams at Porth Eirias.
I am getting the impression that Bryn doesn't rate sherry!


"Many thanks hollins1 for writing your review, Your comments have been passed onto Magwen, who greeted you as well as our front of house team. We are continuously training and improving our staff to the standard expected of Bryn Williams. Our drinks list has been created by Bryn Williams. We're delighted you enjoyed the food and experience here and look forward to seeing you again! "
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Post by: norman08 on January 04, 2016, 11:38:04 am
Walked along there on Saturday shame the outside doesn't look good looks a right mess ,, is Bryan Williams ever there .
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Post by: hollins on January 04, 2016, 11:55:52 am
He was busy in the kitchen when we were there.
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Post by: Bosun on January 06, 2016, 05:00:15 am
Maybe I am missing something here, but having read this piece several times, I still don't understand Bodnant's rationale for explain how they came to be selling Belgian pork as Welsh cured gammon joint..... or am I missing something?

Certainly a PR flop.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/award-winning-conwy-farm-shop-10688209#rlabs=2%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/award-winning-conwy-farm-shop-10688209#rlabs=2%20rt)$sitewide%20p$1
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Post by: Cambrian on January 06, 2016, 09:24:45 am
There do seem to be some quirky things about Bodnant. When I enquired a few months ago if they had any English wine - I had read an article and wanted to try some - a very well spoken young man firmly told me that their "ethos was to promote Welsh produce" and no they did not stock English wine.  He did this apparently oblivious to the irony that his shop was stocked with wine from almost every other country on the planet!
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Post by: Dave on January 07, 2016, 05:10:39 pm
And I thought the citrus fruits they sell were grown in the Orangery in Bodnant gardens. I have been truly deceived!
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Post by: Blongb on January 07, 2016, 07:27:40 pm

It's very reminiscent of the foot and mouth outbreak on Anglesea. Cumbrian Lamb transported down to the Welsh Country Foods site in Gaerwen where it was processed then packaged and sold on as Welsh.

Never ever believe anything printed on the label unless you are absolutely certain where the contents comes from.   $walesflag$
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Post by: Ajllandudno on January 07, 2016, 10:51:53 pm
Not sure how much truth in the 'conversation' I've over heard this evening, however it was about Broadway being sold yesterday........ Was under the belief the trust had till the end of the month to purchess the premises ?? 😕😕
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2016, 08:41:29 am
Sad to hear that the Puffin Cafe on the A55 at Penmaenmawr has closed down due to a downturn in trade caused by continual roadworks on that road.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-blamed-contributing-closure-10698352 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-blamed-contributing-closure-10698352)
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Post by: wrex on January 08, 2016, 04:35:57 pm
maybe they bought Broadway
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wally on January 08, 2016, 06:43:03 pm
I suspect the main reason for the closure of the Puffin cafe is its location. I can't see the attraction of sitting in a cafe overlooking a busy dual carriageway.
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Post by: Bosun on January 08, 2016, 08:22:52 pm
I suspect the main reason for the closure of the Puffin cafe is its location. I can't see the attraction of sitting in a cafe overlooking a busy dual carriageway.

Not exactly sure that's the reason; you can't sit in many motorway service stations and have views like those across the Strait at Anglesey and Puffin Island......



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Post by: Neil on January 08, 2016, 09:26:45 pm
I tried it once and it seemed below average for a Cafe, and the farm shop wasn't very good, it would need to be well above average in both aspects to prosper in that position.
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Post by: Hugo on January 13, 2016, 04:15:42 pm
It was a beautiful morning today when we were shopping in Llandudno but just after midday, the weather changed and became colder and very wet so we were glad to get to the Toad in Colwyn Bay for one of their £5,00 lunch meals.
We had the stir fried chicken in ginger, garlic & sweet chilli sauce, served with wild rice or hand cut chips and it was as delicious as usual.  What we like about the place apart from the food is how well it is run with the pleasant and friendly staff, and the location just adds to the experience.     $good$
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Post by: Bosun on January 15, 2016, 02:31:42 pm
Called in at 'Two the Square' Conwy this afternoon. As usual, the food and coffee in this family owned and run café was really excellent and reasonably priced, I highly recommend it. I wasn't aware that they opened in the evening for dinner, but based on the quality of their daytime food and service, I fully intend to treat Mrs B to an evening meal here in the near future. 

It's a pleasure to be able to deservedly recommend a local family business.
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Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2016, 10:01:45 am
Called in at 'Two the Square' Conwy this afternoon. As usual, the food and coffee in this family owned and run café was really excellent and reasonably priced, I highly recommend it. I wasn't aware that they opened in the evening for dinner, but based on the quality of their daytime food and service, I fully intend to treat Mrs B to an evening meal here in the near future. 

It's a pleasure to be able to deservedly recommend a local family business.
It looked pretty busy when I went past the other day, must give it a try.

Speaking of family owned businesses, we had the full breakfast at the Olive Grove in Deganwy on Sunday. Excellent meal, local ingredients, very enjoyable. Full marks to them.  $good$
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Post by: hollins on January 22, 2016, 06:12:03 pm
We had another delicious lunch today at the skip. We have a friend staying with us from Switzerland and it was good to have somewhere to take her for good food with a great sea view.
Mr H and I had roast skate wing with capers and shrimps and our friend had haddock, chips and peas. Pudding in the photo was warm rice pudding with poached prunes with candied walnuts.
Service was excellent too but the best news is, sherry is coming soon!
Drinks list is being revamped and I am promised!

Have you been yet Wrex?
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Post by: wrex on January 22, 2016, 08:23:28 pm
next month,looking forward to it now
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Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2016, 11:53:35 am
Food does look great, must give it a try soon.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on January 23, 2016, 06:14:53 pm
The chips look like frozen ones and a bit insipid to boot. Must admit I don't like the trend for putting everything in different dishes on the plate either but that's just me. The worst offence of the lot is to serve food on a wooden platter or a piece of slate!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on January 23, 2016, 06:41:05 pm
Yes Dave, I think you are probably right about the frites as they called them but to be fair to them when we ordered they did say that their normal hand cut thick chips were not available. Not sure why but they did say that they had had a run on the haddock dish of the day.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2016, 10:42:18 am
Get you two in on the opening night for Shisha specials ,the old man will love it.lol

That Shisha place was open last night, but it's a pretty embarrassing effort really.

They have opened the doors, put a small Egyptian looking rug hanging on the wall, and there was no one in.

Well, why would anyone go in?  There is no bar, no food or alcohol for sale.... and no signage telling anyone what the place offers, what you can be or any prices.   

Went past 3 times, and just saw the owner outside looking panicky on her mobile phone.

Doomed I'm afraid.
I see that this place has closed down and is up for let again. Who's surprised?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 24, 2016, 02:49:43 pm
I notice Cup'Cakes in Mostyn Street is now empty.

It is opposite the Halifax.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2016, 06:13:28 pm
I thought that the recession had long since ended?

But given the number of recent shop closures, including several on the Pier, and the fact that interest rates still show no signs of rising, I would suggest that it it is still in full swing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on January 24, 2016, 06:22:28 pm
I think it doesn't matter what the economic situation, a poor business proposition will always fail.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on January 24, 2016, 06:57:26 pm
I think it doesn't matter what the economic situation, a poor business proposition will always fail.
 

You are so right Dave, It always sounds good when you are full of optimism, I'm going to open a so and so shop, because there are lots of them in the town, so it must be a good idea. Do the basics first. How many bums on seats do I need to pay the overheads / lease and how much do I need to live on after I've paid the staff / taxman.

My wife's Uncle got the contract to refit the Bakers Oven Shops all over the country because he devised a chair that was perfectly comfortable to sit on for 20mins., but after that it became progressively more uncomfortable. In, drink your coffee, eat your cake, move on.

Now with free wifi available almost every where, unless you charge outrageous prices it's only a question of time before the inevitable closure.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 24, 2016, 08:38:43 pm
That's very true guys, and the Sphinx, plus the Cup's n Cakes shop were both discussed on here at the time of their opening.

Cups n Cakes had very high rents / rates to contend with, and it seemed that only a national branded outlet might succeed in there.

The Sphinx didn't really have a range, and were reliant on the Shisha culture taking hold in Llandudno.  It's not really that kind of town is it?  Not even with the young ones.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 25, 2016, 09:59:14 am
The chips look like frozen ones and a bit insipid to boot. Must admit I don't like the trend for putting everything in different dishes on the plate either but that's just me. The worst offence of the lot is to serve food on a wooden platter or a piece of slate!

I agree there Dave, those chips or frites ( !!!) as they call them don't appeal to me at all. They look decidedly undercooked.!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 28, 2016, 06:43:42 pm
A rather good lunch there earlier, excellent salt and pepper Squid followed by the Skate, 2nd lunch was Squid followed by smoked Haddock on creamed mustard potatoes and a poached egg as a special 2 course for £10.95, full price would have been about £20.
The place was busy by the time we left and 1pm, a lovely lady at reception and service was very good.
Unless you have tried it I think you should take a neutral stance.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on January 28, 2016, 11:10:34 pm
Oh well Beefeater is the big signing into the Tudno Castle,not really good news but at least its getting started thanks to them and we will be getting Prezzo
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Chompy78 on January 29, 2016, 07:58:31 am
Partner and I looked at opening a place. Rents make it impossible for a new business. Need to be a chain with money behind you to open there.

Llandudno unfortunately will become a pretty boring place, dominated by chains and pound shops.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2016, 08:43:08 am
Partner and I looked at opening a place. Rents make it impossible for a new business. Need to be a chain with money behind you to open there.

Llandudno unfortunately will become a pretty boring place, dominated by chains and pound shops.
...as will most towns in the UK, unfortunately. It's fast becoming a corporate world.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 29, 2016, 10:15:38 am
Aren't Premier Inn and Beefeater both owned by the same company?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2016, 12:37:37 pm
Aren't Premier Inn and Beefeater both owned by the same company?
Indeed they are, Bri.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 06, 2016, 04:48:45 pm
Skip correspondent here!
We took my mum for lunch today.
Still no sherry and they shouldn't be too much longer with it as she will be 90 in April!
She had the skate and we shared the fish pie which we thought was over salty.
The last photo is for Hugo........your Swiss style brandy coffee in your home town of Colwyn Bay!
Would be lovely to meet up with you there for one of those some day!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 06, 2016, 06:11:12 pm
That coffee does look nice hope that you enjoyed it and your meal too.     Let's hope that they get the sherry in for you next time you go there.
I was at the Toad yesterday and had one of their £5.00 lunches which was really tasty.   Their Valentine menu looks really appealing too  so I'm looking forward to going there next Sunday.     $good$
   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on February 07, 2016, 11:37:07 am
Living in a town with mainly small businesses and family run shops, it is heartening to see that many shops that were empty five years ago are now thriving, with plenty of variety on offer for  the people that stay at the Castle or the B&B's around the town, and lots of day trippers. There's even a cupcake shop/cafe that seems to do well. There are plenty of small cafes and hairdressers, three charity  shops and a really good antiques centre that features on the Antiques Road Trip now and again. Wetherspoons, who took over the Castle Hotel is always busy, and on a wet Tuesday in February I couldn't find a space in the main car park at 11 am!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 07, 2016, 07:58:30 pm
Which is the good antiques centre? I love a look around those, although mostly I buy things in the Rogers Jones auction.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 07, 2016, 10:09:56 pm
Living in a town with mainly small businesses and family run shops, it is heartening to see that many shops that were empty five years ago are now thriving, with plenty of variety on offer for  the people that stay at the Castle or the B&B's around the town, and lots of day trippers. There's even a cupcake shop/cafe that seems to do well. There are plenty of small cafes and hairdressers, three charity  shops and a really good antiques centre that features on the Antiques Road Trip now and again. Wetherspoons, who took over the Castle Hotel is always busy, and on a wet Tuesday in February I couldn't find a space in the main car park at 11 am!

You're referring to Ruthin I think?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on February 07, 2016, 10:19:45 pm
yes, Ruthin. The Antiques Centre is the Old Picture House on Well Street. A recent American Blog described Ruthin as "Pastoral Funky" which is a pretty good description, with lots of interests catered for in music, arts, crafts etc running alongside  the more traditional chapel, church, schools and sports  based communities. Some decent pubs and great restaurants.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 08, 2016, 07:07:22 am
Poco coffee shop in Nigel Roberts old shop,small Liverpool firm.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2016, 08:58:55 am
Poco coffee shop in Nigel Roberts old shop,small Liverpool firm.
Looks quite nice:
http://www.pococoffee.co.uk/ (http://www.pococoffee.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 08, 2016, 09:41:09 am
Had Sunday Lunch at Bodysgallen Hall yesterday, excellent food, superb service in a beautiful setting.

Absolutely delightful.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2016, 11:13:22 am
yes, Ruthin. The Antiques Centre is the Old Picture House on Well Street. A recent American Blog described Ruthin as "Pastoral Funky" which is a pretty good description, with lots of interests catered for in music, arts, crafts etc running alongside  the more traditional chapel, church, schools and sports  based communities. Some decent pubs and great restaurants.
I was interested to see how the arrival of Costa Costa a year or so ago would affect the smaller cafes in Ruthin. Places like Siop Nain and Chatwins still seem to be thriving though, which is good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 08, 2016, 11:18:15 am
yes, Ruthin. The Antiques Centre is the Old Picture House on Well Street. A recent American Blog described Ruthin as "Pastoral Funky" which is a pretty good description, with lots of interests catered for in music, arts, crafts etc running alongside  the more traditional chapel, church, schools and sports  based communities. Some decent pubs and great restaurants.

Ok, yes that is a good one, I'm always amazed that there is not an antiques centre (with lots of dealers in one unit) in the 3 towns area?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: suepp on February 09, 2016, 01:04:02 am

A couple of cafés have closed down, including the Craft Centre, but have heard there have been a few applications to re open it, Crown House has also closed , I'm pretty sure that this is council owned as well
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 09, 2016, 07:26:47 am
London pub for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 09, 2016, 01:07:49 pm
Thought they were doing ok there Wrex .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on February 10, 2016, 07:26:37 am
Last time I was in the London it was rammed (thought that was a Saturday night before Christmas).

I wonder if it struggled for trade through the week.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 10, 2016, 07:46:29 am
Norm i saw that their landlord had done a runner in Trefriew pub so this could be a reason
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2016, 08:47:55 am
Norm i saw that their landlord had done a runner in Trefriew pub so this could be a reason
I thought that too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 10, 2016, 10:48:16 am
Were they the ones who were on 4 in a bed?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2016, 08:18:36 am
We had Lunch on Sunday at Watson's Bistro in Conwy. Great food and service.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 17, 2016, 07:34:44 am
Wondering what happened to Wildwood restaurant,found a job application for Llandudno on their site,thats a good start
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 17, 2016, 08:36:23 am
Incredibly slowly the refurbishing and rebuilding of the Tal-y-Cafn hotel / restaurant is proceeding. It's been going for about two years, now.  Should be very nice when it's eventually finished, though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2016, 09:22:18 am
Incredibly slowly the refurbishing and rebuilding of the Tal-y-Cafn hotel / restaurant is proceeding. It's been going for about two years, now.  Should be very nice when it's eventually finished, though.
I went past the other day and it looked no different from the previous time (several months earlier) I had gone past!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 17, 2016, 09:57:27 am
Little bit more of the roof underlay has been fixed. We think...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 18, 2016, 10:26:43 pm
I went past this morning and the work was still in progress.   It looks like it will be a nice large building when finished
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 19, 2016, 06:59:42 am
Really enjoyed food in Snooze bar last week,he has done a good job with this pub,rushed nothing and got the clientel he wants,excellent.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 26, 2016, 10:44:04 am
How much is the asking price on the London. Or better still where is it advertised.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 26, 2016, 10:47:24 am
Any one know. Has the Irish Bar Cooneys changed hands as it seems to have been done up and changed its nome
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 26, 2016, 11:06:37 am
Any one know. Has the Irish Bar Cooneys changed hands as it seems to have been done up and changed its nome

Nope, still owned by Mick, but a nice change of image!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 26, 2016, 12:21:17 pm
Any one know. Has the Irish Bar Cooneys changed hands as it seems to have been done up and changed its nome

Nope, still owned by Mick, but a nice change of image!

What is it now?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Lyndylou on February 26, 2016, 02:13:44 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-wildwood-gets-10951780 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-wildwood-gets-10951780)                 

more on the new restaurant  wildwoods.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: bigbadhenry on February 27, 2016, 09:59:48 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-wildwood-gets-10951780 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-wildwood-gets-10951780)                 

more on the new restaurant  wildwoods.

Reported as 91 Mostyn Street, is that the old Timothy Whites shop???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2016, 12:00:33 pm
Correct B B H
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2016, 10:43:03 am
Speaking of Timothy Whites (which I seem to recall was the old Kitchenware shop owned by Boots?), I remember that the shop used to be on two levels, with a small set of steps linking the two levels and the back level being higher. It must all have been levelled out at some point, as it's all on one level now.

I see Wildwood will have the Dining Cinema on the first floor, what a great concept, looking forward to trying it.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2016, 11:06:21 am
We went to the Seahorse on Friday night for a meal and it was as fantastic as always.  $good$

As we were a little early, we popped into Snooze for a drink beforehand, a very pleasant venue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on March 01, 2016, 06:13:49 pm
I see the "Hubble Bubble Café" that was Mr Bs has a LC Hotels sign on the door saying its going to be their Café/Grill !! watch out Osborne  House maybe
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 01, 2016, 06:29:06 pm
I see the "Hubble Bubble Café" that was Mr Bs has a LC Hotels sign on the door saying its going to be their Café/Grill !! watch out Osborne  House maybe

See my Post  Re: Local Eyesores « Reply #1139 on: 25-02-2016, 16:07:15 »
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 02, 2016, 02:17:31 pm
Any updates on the opening date of Mango and Bamboo?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 02, 2016, 05:22:38 pm
They have run out of money,had a meal in Jai-Ho and that is what she said,sticking with Asians what the hell is going on with the Washington
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on March 03, 2016, 07:33:57 am
Think Mango and Bamboo is up for rent with St David's at £15,000 pa
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2016, 08:31:10 am
They have run out of money,had a meal in Jai-Ho and that is what she said,sticking with Asians what the hell is going on with the Washington
That's a shame, I was looking forward to trying it!

Work at the Washington seems to be going on at a snail's pace. It's been 2 years since Planning Permission was granted!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2016, 09:35:55 am
The Portuguese Restaurant at 129 Upper Mostyn Street is back up for rent, £18k per year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 03, 2016, 02:53:47 pm
The Portuguese Restaurant at 129 Upper Mostyn Street is back up for rent, £18k per year.

Every year many of these businesses in Upper Mostyn St turn into something else, a poor value for money or poor quality offer makes it inevitable.
Only businesses like Home Cooking or The Seahorse (round the corner) get it right.  So they survive and thrive.
One that may yet return is The Mediterranean, which I had ignored for years and was just getting to really like, when it closed!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 03, 2016, 05:01:01 pm
Snooze bar has got it right,such a shame people think you only have to open a bar come food outlet and the money will flow,quality food only will make you succeed
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Sara on March 03, 2016, 08:00:32 pm
My daughter Abby works in Snooze.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2016, 02:41:22 pm
The weather was atrocious on the prom at Colwyn Bay but we were glad to pop in to The Toad and have a nice warm welcome there.
We had the stir fried chicken in ginger, garlic & sweet chilli sauce, served with wild rice and hand cut chips off the £10.00 for two lunch time menu and it was very tasty indeed.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 06, 2016, 02:03:51 am
Was having a nice night out tonight, then bumped into Wrex and Mrs Wrex who had been to The Seahorse.... then we all proceeded to get very drunk, which is nice, but I've got to work in about 5 hours !!  Z** $drink1$ ZXZ ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 06, 2016, 01:25:48 pm
My head is banging
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2016, 01:42:59 pm
Not surprised ! 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 06, 2016, 02:45:05 pm
My head is banging
Me too, I'm having a relapse 😣😣
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2016, 06:07:45 pm
You really are a pair of daft beggars !  Alka Seltzer anyone ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on March 06, 2016, 09:51:42 pm
why do we have to suffer for having a good night out, life can be so cruel, get well soon both of you
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 06, 2016, 10:31:32 pm
why do we have to suffer for having a good night out, life can be so cruel, get well soon both of you

It's called 'age' Bri,  and the inability to process alcohol as efficiently as we did as younger men, (if I can remember that far back)

I well recall going boozing straight after playing football or training, maybe 5 nights a week,  never had a problem getting to work the next day.   I couldn't dream of it now. 
I'm actually quite glad about that to be honest.   :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 07, 2016, 08:51:47 am
You are lucky Fest. I used to be able to drink anything ( and everything), but now even a tablespoonful makes me ill. :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: snowcap on March 07, 2016, 11:01:39 pm
i know what you mean Nem. i have to force it on me now as not to be unsociable i just do it to keep my friends happy, is,nt life a bitch.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 08, 2016, 09:41:30 am
Know what you mean Snowcap !!! Daren't even force it ! I wish .....now, so I stick to orange. Mind you it is almost as dear to have a glass of that nowadays !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 08, 2016, 12:13:21 pm
I don't drink much now and when I've had a routine health check the nurse asked me how much I drank and then put me down as a teetotaller.
I must be the first one in the family to be  teatotal so I'll drink to that.       Z**   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on March 08, 2016, 05:35:10 pm
The Lemon Tree, formally Greenery is coming along nicely, good luck to them with their operation.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2016, 09:33:51 am
The Lemon Tree, formally Greenery is coming along nicely, good luck to them with their operation.
I saw last week that it had been completely refurbished. Will look forward to popping in and giving it a try.  $good$

http://www.restauranttrove.com/restaurant/842978342461112/The%20Lemon%20Tree (http://www.restauranttrove.com/restaurant/842978342461112/The%20Lemon%20Tree)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 11, 2016, 11:57:40 am
Poco is opening on Friday, 8 April.  $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2016, 12:49:25 pm
Sad news for lovers of good food in Llandudno...the Seahorse is up for sale as Don is retiring.  :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 11, 2016, 02:38:22 pm
Oh no!    :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 11, 2016, 10:34:23 pm
 Retiring? Retirees are getting younger all the time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 11, 2016, 10:37:03 pm
I hope that you're not planning to retire Mike, you're far too young for that.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 16, 2016, 09:14:44 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-seahorse-restaurant-go-up-11051086 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-seahorse-restaurant-go-up-11051086)

A little more news on the subject  !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2016, 06:59:41 pm
My wife and her friend had lunch in Characters in Llewelyn Ave in Llandudno this week and she was so impressed with it that she took me there today and I really enjoyed what I had.
What was nice about the place today was that a lot of people seemed to be having afternoon tea there, young and old alike.  We didn't have that but we'll be back again as the afternoon tea looked very tempting.    $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on March 21, 2016, 11:17:01 am
Paysanne catered for our work BBQ last week. No decent vegetarian options  :-X
Didn't enamour me to want to vist, do want to go Prohibition though, hope it doesn't close

If you don't go, then it WILL close..... but brace yourself, you won't like the prices!

Wellllll Fester know it all. I went to prohibition last night, very much looking forward to it.
Drove down at about 6pm the place was CLOSED -  $angry$
Sunday spring evening, surely couldn't be a better time to open.
The great orme brewery after though really was  Z** - well worth going if you have never been and they sell proper beer  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 21, 2016, 03:03:02 pm
Went past the new LC Grill, next to the Lilly in Upper Mostyn St, which had its opening night on Saturday. It will make a pleasent change to have a new place that doesn't sell Pizza
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 24, 2016, 11:26:06 am
Conwy county food outlets with a hygiene rating of FIVE
See which restaurants, takeaways and pubs were given the highest rating by the Food Standards Agency
These are the restaurants, cafes, pubs and takeaways across Conwy which have a food hygiene rating of five during 2015 and 2016.
A five rating is the highest number given by the Food Standards Agency meaning the business was found to have ‘very good’ hygiene standards.
When food safety officers carry out inspections, they check how hygienically food is handled, the condition of the structure of buildings and how it manages and records what it does to make sure food is safe.

A full list of 5-rated premises is below. This information is correct as of March 23, 2016.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-food-outlets-hygiene-rating-11049717 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-food-outlets-hygiene-rating-11049717)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 24, 2016, 01:39:10 pm
The Kiosk on Rhos Prom (the one with that pink car outside) has a five star food hygiene rating but I can't see it on the list and it's a nice place to stop and have a drink and a bite to eat       (that's when it's not windy or raining)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 24, 2016, 05:16:02 pm
Conwy county food outlets with a hygiene rating of FIVE
See which restaurants, takeaways and pubs were given the highest rating by the Food Standards Agency
These are the restaurants, cafes, pubs and takeaways across Conwy which have a food hygiene rating of five during 2015 and 2016.
A five rating is the highest number given by the Food Standards Agency meaning the business was found to have ‘very good’ hygiene standards.
When food safety officers carry out inspections, they check how hygienically food is handled, the condition of the structure of buildings and how it manages and records what it does to make sure food is safe.

A full list of 5-rated premises is below. This information is correct as of March 23, 2016.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-food-outlets-hygiene-rating-11049717 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-food-outlets-hygiene-rating-11049717)


Sorry Steve, all that means is the business concerned is good at paperwork and record keeping and has very little to do with actual food hygine or cleanliness standards. Just like many other industries as long as the inspector can put a tick on his check sheet all is presumed to be well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 24, 2016, 05:34:15 pm
"Sorry Steve, all that means is the business concerned is good at paperwork and record keeping and has very little to do with actual food hygine or cleanliness standards. Just like many other industries as long as the inspector can put a tick on his check sheet all is presumed to be well. "

I take your point Blongb, but if they care about the paperwork, we can only hope they put the same effort into their food hygine.     $dins$

And as Hugo points out above the list is not definitive .....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 06, 2016, 12:31:29 pm
Malt Loaf in Conwy closed down the other night. Not enough pints with names like Knobblys Foxy Grouting Stout or enough things on the menu for canine's I would imagine  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2016, 01:11:01 pm
I see CCBC are objecting to the proposed Wildwood Restaurant putting tables and chairs outside its premises. Why would it be a problem when practically every cafe and restaurant along Mostyn St have seating outside?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2016, 01:18:56 pm
Malt Loaf in Conwy closed down the other night. Not enough pints with names like Knobblys Foxy Grouting Stout or enough things on the menu for canine's I would imagine  Z**

I heard that it was being re-vamped and re-opened under it's former name 'The Erskine Arms'
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 06, 2016, 01:41:50 pm
I see CCBC are objecting to the proposed Wildwood Restaurant putting tables and chairs outside its premises. Why would it be a problem when practically every cafe and restaurant along Mostyn St have seating outside?

From memory that part of Mostyn St. does not have a lot of pavement clutter, last year Cups and Cakes had a few tables out on that side, I prefer the open pavement,(unlike the lower end) but understand the need for some tables outside.
Who owns the pavements?   

Just seen this......
Llandudno cinema restaurant in al-fresco dining dispute.
An al fresco dining dispute over tables and chairs could hit plans to bring a 30 job restaurant with its own cinema to Llandudno .

National chain Wildwood wants to open its first ever restaurant in Wales with plans for an eaterie on Mostyn Street.
After applying to come to Llandudno last year it received the backing of Llandudno town council and last month planning officers approved the change of use for the shop unit.

But the plans to push on with the restaurant have hit a snag due to restrictions on seating outside of the venue.
The company wants to put five tables and 14 seats outside the restaurant to increase its covers and also fit with the Mediterranean theme of the chain.
They say the canopy above the unit would be utilised for "al fresco dining" and put the canopy to "good use".

However council officers have included a condition in their planning permission that precludes having any seats and tables outside the site.
Now a bid has been lodged to remove that condition and ensure the 30 job restaurant goes ahead as planned.

Highways officers with the council have already said they have no issue with the plans and a final decision is expected in the coming weeks
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-al-fresco-11145632 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-al-fresco-11145632)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 06, 2016, 02:26:12 pm
This may be controversial, but the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool Arms had been in decline for sometime.  Once a delightful pub, it had become very a tatty and grubby establishment which often ran out of beer at busy periods. The George and Dragon was little better and desperately needs the refit that it's currently undergoing. The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally, and that the requirement is for well run clean pubs, not 'dives'. Let's hope that the LA re-opens with a refurbishment; it's a fantastic location with virtually a captive audience, and correctly run will undoubtedly be a very successful venture.

"The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally"

Two of those have only just opened! They don't show anything. I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Come back in a year and we'll see if they are still doing well. My guess is that in the winter they will be deserted.
Where as a 'dive' as you put it, will have a steady stream of local customers all year round. Just like the Malt loaf and mail coach do  that have been open years.

The Albion is as packed as ever and has been all winter, The Bridge very busy with refurbished letting rooms and The Bank is doing well. The Liverpool Arms and George and Dragon have been refurbished, and now possibly, another 'dive' is being refurbished.

How's the Juggling Ball Shop doing? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2016, 02:35:34 pm
Malt Loaf owned by Stange & Co; only natural that they would want to replicate the successes of the Cottage Loaf and their other pubs on the Wirral, in Conwy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Daihardwelshman on April 06, 2016, 03:36:18 pm
I see CCBC are objecting to the proposed Wildwood Restaurant putting tables and chairs outside its premises. Why would it be a problem when practically every cafe and restaurant along Mostyn St have seating outside?

Why are council officials always up their own A**e??? Dont they realise that people are wanting to invest in the town and bring new jobs here?

If highways have no issue what is the problem?????

 :rage: :rage: :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 06, 2016, 04:31:09 pm
God helps us if CCBC BOLLOCKS THIS ONE UP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on April 06, 2016, 07:06:47 pm
Have CCBC been asked to give their reasons for the condition? That could prove interesting...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 07, 2016, 09:11:54 am
This may be controversial, but the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool Arms had been in decline for sometime.  Once a delightful pub, it had become very a tatty and grubby establishment which often ran out of beer at busy periods. The George and Dragon was little better and desperately needs the refit that it's currently undergoing. The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally, and that the requirement is for well run clean pubs, not 'dives'. Let's hope that the LA re-opens with a refurbishment; it's a fantastic location with virtually a captive audience, and correctly run will undoubtedly be a very successful venture.

"The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally"

Two of those have only just opened! They don't show anything. I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Come back in a year and we'll see if they are still doing well. My guess is that in the winter they will be deserted.
Where as a 'dive' as you put it, will have a steady stream of local customers all year round. Just like the Malt loaf and mail coach do  that have been open years.

The Albion is as packed as ever and has been all winter, The Bridge very busy with refurbished letting rooms and The Bank is doing well. The Liverpool Arms and George and Dragon have been refurbished, and now possibly, another 'dive' is being refurbished.

How's the Juggling Ball Shop doing?

Was doing awful so I had it refurbished and turned into a restaurant now sadly it is no longer a juggling ball shop but is doing 'well'
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2016, 09:50:33 am
I see CCBC are objecting to the proposed Wildwood Restaurant putting tables and chairs outside its premises. Why would it be a problem when practically every cafe and restaurant along Mostyn St have seating outside?

From memory that part of Mostyn St. does not have a lot of pavement clutter, last year Cups and Cakes had a few tables out on that side, I prefer the open pavement,(unlike the lower end) but understand the need for some tables outside.
Who owns the pavements?   
The business owns the section of pavement under the canopy, whilst CCBC owns the 'open' area of pavement at the roadside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on April 07, 2016, 11:50:18 am
Dave when I phoned the council few years ago about the pavement,s they told me to phone mostyns ,they said council owns so much mostyns so much and the premises outside building ,no wonder pavements are a mess they all pass the buck 😡
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 07, 2016, 12:15:45 pm
Weigh up the cost of sitting outside
If you want to put seating on pavements outside your outlets, be aware that in most cases planning permission and highways consent is needed.

With the summer approaching and the hopeful anticipation of some good weather, pub, cafe and restaurant owners will be looking to increase seating and maximise sales by using outdoor tables and chairs where possible.  However, it is not as simple as just buying some furniture and putting it outside on the pavement in front of your outlet.  In the majority of cases planning permission is required, as is highways consent – a licence variously called a pavement cafe licence, tables and chairs licence or alfresco dining licence.

This year there has been a lot in the press about the cost of such licences.  The cost varies across the country.  Each individual council can determine the fee payable but it is safe to say that costs have increased in many areas.  There are reports that in some streets Torbay Council, for example, has increased their rates by 600% leaving one bar owner’s costs rising from £1,000 to £7,000 per year.  You should find out about the cost in your area as it is obviously only worth using an outdoor seating area if it boosts profits.

MORE   http://www.hospitalitylaw.co.uk/weigh-up-the-cost-of-sitting-outside/ (http://www.hospitalitylaw.co.uk/weigh-up-the-cost-of-sitting-outside/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on April 09, 2016, 02:24:34 pm
Heard the portugese may have been aquired by orme brewery,no sold sign though
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: nwpo on April 10, 2016, 04:46:07 pm
Malt Loaf in Conwy closed down the other night. Not enough pints with names like Knobblys Foxy Grouting Stout or enough things on the menu for canine's I would imagine  Z**

I heard that it was being re-vamped and re-opened under it's former name 'The Erskine Arms'

Certainly is.

http://erskinearms.co.uk/ (http://erskinearms.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 10, 2016, 04:59:55 pm
Called at the new Poco Coffee Cafe, that opened today in the old Nigel Roberts shop, great welcome, good food and eager to please staff, I also met the owner Richard Sutton who is as nice as he is professional.
I will be going back.
http://www.pococoffee.co.uk/ (http://www.pococoffee.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2016, 09:24:00 am
Called at the new Poco Coffee Cafe, that opened today in the old Nigel Roberts shop, great welcome, good food and eager to please staff, I also met the owner Richard Sutton who is as nice as he is professional.
I will be going back.
http://www.pococoffee.co.uk/ (http://www.pococoffee.co.uk/)
We also popped in during the morning. Food and drink were good, they maybe have a couple too many tables in there for comfort if it gets full, but they've done a good job and I wish them the best of luck with their venture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 11, 2016, 09:55:09 am
Me and Mrs R agree about there being too many tables and chairs inside.

We also thought there is a need to address a couple of issues with the single toilet.

Their all day cooked breakfast priced at £5.95 including a drink will be a winner especially as the Travelodge next door offers a breakfast box only.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 13, 2016, 11:28:08 am
First look at Conwy Marina's Mulberry pub restaurant after revamp
Conwy Marina pub restaurant The Mulberry is set to re-open next week after a five-month revamp.
Robinsons Brewery have transformed the venue since closing in December and will open it to the public on Monday.
They have already taken on 44 staff and this the workforce is expected to rise to almost 60 by the summer.

MORE AND PHOTOS    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/first-look-conwy-marinas-mulberry-11175398 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/first-look-conwy-marinas-mulberry-11175398)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 13, 2016, 04:06:39 pm
This couldn't have come soon enough, my main problem with the old layout, probably one experienced by most of you, is that there was no wooden dinghy hanging upside down from the ceiling. Fortunately in the new design this has been addressed.

(http://i4.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article11176596.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/JS87206994.jpg)

 $good$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 13, 2016, 04:51:30 pm
This couldn't have come soon enough, my main problem with the old layout, probably one experienced by most of you, is that there was no wooden dinghy hanging upside down from the ceiling. Fortunately in the new design this has been addressed.

 $donald$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on April 19, 2016, 10:43:56 pm
We had another super meal in the skip tonight and big news......sherry is on the drinks menu!
It was the first night tonight of a new menu and Bryn was busy in the kitchen giving instruction.
They had been closed during the day for staff training.
I had an asparagus and egg mayonnaise starter. I had never had it served like that before and it tasted light and fresh. Spring vegetable risotto was also delicious, perfectly cooked.
Mr Hollins had Baked Alaska and I had one of my favourite puddings which was floating islands or in this case one island with pink sugared almonds sprinkled on top.
The service is now both friendly and professional. I particularly liked the way that on our table of six the meals were placed correctly to each person without us having to be asked what we had chosen.
It was very special watching the sun go down from our seat near the window.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2016, 11:02:30 pm
You needed that walk on the Little Orme after munching your way through that meal and it's nice to hear good reports about the restaurant.
I'll have to give it a go sometime, that Baked Alaska looks very tempting indeed. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2016, 03:14:35 pm
Maybe a Dylans Restaurant in Llandudno......

Dylan's restaurant in Menai Bridge has new landlord after Mostyn Estates investment arm buys up property  $good$

 http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-restaurant-menai-bridge-new-11214225 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-restaurant-menai-bridge-new-11214225)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 24, 2016, 02:10:09 pm
We called in to look at the 'refurbished' Mulberry at lunchtime, and didn't like it at all. It's clinical with a hideous finish to the walls and I doubt if NASA could find any atmosphere in there. I do think that £1.5m could have been better spent.

I actually preferred the old Mulberry, and that was bad enough.

No doubt some will like it, but I doubt if we would make any effort to go there. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 25, 2016, 12:29:29 pm
We called in to look at the 'refurbished' Mulberry at lunchtime, and didn't like it at all. It's clinical with a hideous finish to the walls and I doubt if NASA could find any atmosphere in there. I do think that £1.5m could have been better spent.

I actually preferred the old Mulberry, and that was bad enough.

No doubt some will like it, but I doubt if we would make any effort to go there.

We agree on something :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 25, 2016, 12:39:59 pm
The walls do have an odd finish to them, looks as though they are made of thousands of slivers of wood...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 05, 2016, 04:53:30 pm
Yesterday we were invited out to lunch at Tre-Ysgawen Hall on Anglesey.
We had an excellent meal, three courses for £21, two for £15, all delicious and because we were the only diners we ate in a small dining room, not the huge conservatory and it felt like a special private dining experience.
The hall itself is in beautiful grounds and the bluebells are out now too.
The highlight for me though was being shown into a huge lounge with a fire for a cup of tea afterwards and seeing this wonderful brass slipper box by the fire. Now that is something I do approve of and would like one for myself!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 06, 2016, 01:01:09 pm
Conwy's Liverpool Arms scraps expansion due to planning issues.
A spokesperson for Enterprise Inns said: “We can confirm that we put forward an initial planning submission for work to improve to the Liverpool Arms, Conwy.

"However, due to the complexities of the site and its listed status we subsequently decided to withdraw this application while we give further consideration to potential options."
REF DP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 07, 2016, 08:10:12 am
Albert last night was a treat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2016, 11:54:36 am
Pity the same can't be said about the Carlton. They had an awful lot of damage done last night, benches smashed, hanging baskets trashed and many cars in the area had windows smashed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2016, 06:27:02 pm
Pity the same can't be said about the Carlton. They had an awful lot of damage done last night, benches smashed, hanging baskets trashed and many cars in the area had windows smashed.
What happened then?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2016, 07:02:02 pm
Haven't managed to find out from anywhere !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 08, 2016, 11:17:58 am
Just flicking back through this thread and I read Hollins remarks about being pleased at having individual meals served to the correct person without having to be told. This reminded me of the exact opposite which I witnessed a few years ago in the early days of the Avon Conwy.
  The place was a shambles. Everything was going wrong, no menues, queues for drinks whilst staff consulted computer screens etc etc. But the ultimate cock up for want of more refined words was to come.
   There was a large family birthday party at a table close to the bar.all excited youngsters. There was another family group towards the back of the restaurant, more hidden away. All of a sudden the door leading to the kitchens burst open and out came four or five clowns carrying the birthday cake with candles and singing and throwing balloons around. Went straight past the group of excited youngsters and off to the quiet party in the corner, who were staring in amazement quote "we haven't ordered any birthday cakes." So, oh dear, about turn, second rendition of happy birthday to you to the correct table, the birthday girl by now being close to tears.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2016, 11:35:47 am
Mike, that's a bit like the funeral of a guy (a very young guy) I used to work with.
After the funeral we went back to a hotel with a large function room for solemn drinks and a bite to eat.
About 15 mins later the double doors burst open and in flooded a New Orleans style marching band, playing 'when the saints come marching in'
It was only after about 2 mins of this that the close family enquired who had booked this bizarre 'tribute', you see none of us knew the deceased to be a fan of jazz or anything?
It transpired that the marching band was indeed booked, but for a wedding, exactly one year in the future.   Red faces all round, but it soon thawed out, because young Mr Hansen would have seen the funny side of this.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 09, 2016, 10:41:03 pm
I drove up the Orme today and then around the Marine Drive and was looking forward to a nice latte in the cafe by the lighthouse but it was closed.   The place was empty and it looked like there was some work going on inside.
When I arrived there, there was a land train packed with people outside the cafe and behind that was the old tour bus.  I noticed that the land train cost £4.00 for the tour which is a good price really.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 10, 2016, 08:43:40 am
They're laying a new floor in the cafe, Hugo, but they also ran out of water yesterday, following the dry spell.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 11, 2016, 05:41:48 pm
Dylan's opens Anglesey super-kitchen to support expansion                                                                                             
Restaurant chain Dylan’s has opened its purpose built production kitchen on Anglesey to support its sites and drive the growth of its retail products.
The giant kitchen will see staff cooking up fresh bread, prepared seafood and sauces which will then be delivered each morning to the kitchens at their Menai Bridge and Criccieth restaurants.
They say the Llangefni site will further improve the quality and consistency at the restaurants and now gives them the green light to expand further with a new location in Conwy county.

“It gives us the green light for the third restaurant in Conwy and we will step up efforts to find our third location."
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-opens-anglesey-super-kitchen-11315362 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-opens-anglesey-super-kitchen-11315362)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 12, 2016, 08:59:49 am
Dylan's opens Anglesey super-kitchen to support expansion                                                                                             
Restaurant chain Dylan’s has opened its purpose built production kitchen on Anglesey to support its sites and drive the growth of its retail products.
The giant kitchen will see staff cooking up fresh bread, prepared seafood and sauces which will then be delivered each morning to the kitchens at their Menai Bridge and Criccieth restaurants.
They say the Llangefni site will further improve the quality and consistency at the restaurants and now gives them the green light to expand further with a new location in Conwy county.

“It gives us the green light for the third restaurant in Conwy and we will step up efforts to find our third location."
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-opens-anglesey-super-kitchen-11315362 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-opens-anglesey-super-kitchen-11315362)
Maybe the Pier Pavilion redevelopment would be suitable home for them?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 12, 2016, 05:05:33 pm
Wetherspoons interested in Conwy Civic Hall site - sparking concerns from other pub landlords
Pub chain JD Wetherspoon has confirmed it is looking at Conwy Civic Hall and the board will decide whether to press ahead with an attempt to buy the site.

The site is owned by Conwy council and the local authority says it wants to work with a developer to bring forward proposals to regenerate the Civic Hall, which closed in 2014.

Pub group Wetherspoons says it sent a representative to look at the site and are interested in coming to Conwy.
It has sparked concerns with other pub landlords over the threat to local independent drinking places and also groups who want to take on the site for the local community.
A Wetherspoons spokesman said: "We have many pubs in North Wales and we are always looking at new sites.
"We sent a representative to look at the site in Conwy and we have been made aware that it is up for sale.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/wetherspoons-interested-conwy-civic-hall-11321939 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/wetherspoons-interested-conwy-civic-hall-11321939)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 12, 2016, 05:22:13 pm
"It has sparked concerns with other pub landlords over the threat to local independent drinking places"

 Z** What they really mean is 'we won't be able to get away with charging half as much now"

£4.50 for a bottle of Guinness in the bank in Conwy - same bottle in Wetherspoons for less than £2

 ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 12, 2016, 05:40:02 pm
The civic hall in Conwy enjoys a rear entrance onto the quay.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2016, 08:41:35 am
"It has sparked concerns with other pub landlords over the threat to local independent drinking places"

 Z** What they really mean is 'we won't be able to get away with charging half as much now"

£4.50 for a bottle of Guinness in the bank in Conwy - same bottle in Wetherspoons for less than £2

 ££$
Not perhaps a fair comparison - do you think The Bank is able to buy that bottle of Guinness for the same price that Wetherspoons do? It's common for small businesses to pay a higher wholesale price for an item than the big chains actually SELL it for!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2016, 09:04:32 am
When our daughter was in the 'pub trade' she always said that Wetherspoons could sell drink cheaper than she could buy it. it appears that they stock drinks with a shorter 'sell by' date, because of their large turnover.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 13, 2016, 12:20:30 pm
"It has sparked concerns with other pub landlords over the threat to local independent drinking places"

 Z** What they really mean is 'we won't be able to get away with charging half as much now"

£4.50 for a bottle of Guinness in the bank in Conwy - same bottle in Wetherspoons for less than £2

 ££$
Not perhaps a fair comparison - do you think The Bank is able to buy that bottle of Guinness for the same price that Wetherspoons do? It's common for small businesses to pay a higher wholesale price for an item than the big chains actually SELL it for!

There are other locally owned pubs in other towns that manage to charge the same, near, sometimes less than Wetherspoons (indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town)
So I don't buy that argument, now if you're saying that consumers should boycott Wetherspoons in order to support local establishments, then that I am all for.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 17, 2016, 09:52:00 am
There are other locally owned pubs in other towns that manage to charge the same, near, sometimes less than Wetherspoons (indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town)
Which pubs are you thinking of?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 17, 2016, 12:16:06 pm
There are other locally owned pubs in other towns that manage to charge the same, near, sometimes less than Wetherspoons (indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town)
Which pubs are you thinking of?

Mailcoach I think it's called on the high street. There is a big sign outside advertising their prices - pretty much the same as Wetherspoons.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on May 17, 2016, 12:22:35 pm


.....indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town....


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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 17, 2016, 12:40:53 pm
There are other locally owned pubs in other towns that manage to charge the same, near, sometimes less than Wetherspoons (indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town)
Which pubs are you thinking of?

Mailcoach I think it's called on the high street. There is a big sign outside advertising their prices - pretty much the same as Wetherspoons.

B2R, you can't seriously compare the Mailcoach to a Wetherspoons establishment.
The Mailcoach is pretty run down and quite intimidating to walk into.
Tim Martin's company invest massive sums making the buildings they occupy into very beautiful and well managed hostelries.
They might not be to everyone's taste, but you cannot fault the decor or the business ethos.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 17, 2016, 12:51:38 pm
There are other locally owned pubs in other towns that manage to charge the same, near, sometimes less than Wetherspoons (indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town)
Which pubs are you thinking of?

Mailcoach I think it's called on the high street. There is a big sign outside advertising their prices - pretty much the same as Wetherspoons.
Its not locally owned, it's owned by Enterprise Inns who, like Wetherspoons, use their enormous buying power to undercut local businesses.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 17, 2016, 05:07:40 pm


.....indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town....


 _))*

Sorry that should have read 'in Rhyl'. In most other town's Wetherspoons is normally cheaper.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 17, 2016, 05:14:04 pm
There are other locally owned pubs in other towns that manage to charge the same, near, sometimes less than Wetherspoons (indeed Wetherspoons is one of the most expensive pubs in town)
Which pubs are you thinking of?

Mailcoach I think it's called on the high street. There is a big sign outside advertising their prices - pretty much the same as Wetherspoons.

B2R, you can't seriously compare the Mailcoach to a Wetherspoons establishment.
The Mailcoach is pretty run down and quite intimidating to walk into.
Tim Martin's company invest massive sums making the buildings they occupy into very beautiful and well managed hostelries.
They might not be to everyone's taste, but you cannot fault the decor or the business ethos.

Only thing I was comparing was the prices, DaveR is right it isn't locally owned so none of the locally owned businesses in Conwy charge similar prices to Wetherspoons then (probably because they haven't got one - back to my original point!) But locally owned pubs in other towns and cities clearly do - Rhyl being a prime example, Liverpool being another and there are some locally owned pubs in Llandudno that are not far off Wetherspoons either. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 18, 2016, 07:04:51 am
What do we know about the 2 lets in upper mostyn st,work well underway in old Portugese,nothing in old manor foods,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 18, 2016, 10:18:24 am
What do we know about the 2 lets in upper mostyn st,work well underway in old Portugese,nothing in old manor foods,

I talk to an acquaintance the other day in Upper Mostyn St and he said he was planning to open a new restaurant in the old Portuguese place but didn't elaborate further.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 18, 2016, 12:37:44 pm
Morgan, the guy who runs the wood fired pizza van is bringing his business into the old Portuguese thing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 18, 2016, 12:42:34 pm
Morgan, the guy who runs the wood fired pizza van is bringing his business into the old Portuguese thing.

The very same
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 18, 2016, 12:50:10 pm
I think that would be good  $good$ Lot of competition up there though, I wish him luck
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2016, 01:47:39 pm
You can never have enough pizza... $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 20, 2016, 01:26:28 pm
Facebooked Wildwood restaurant this morning and they assured me they where still coming to town,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 21, 2016, 07:22:15 pm
I thought it was not permissible for cafes to trade if they didn't provide a customer toilet, or if the one they had was broken they had to make temporary arrangements with an establishment very close by?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 22, 2016, 07:46:42 am
That only applies if a new one is being opened. But existing cafes are under no such obligation, oddly. The most interesting example of this is Ty hwnt yr bont  in Llanrwst, where there is no toilet, and customers are directed to the public loo across the road.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 22, 2016, 09:17:00 am
And have been ever since I can remember !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 22, 2016, 11:37:03 am
Facebooked Wildwood restaurant this morning and they assured me they where still coming to town,
From the DP this morning.....
National chain Wildwood has got the green light to come to Llandudno after winning its al fresco dining dispute over tables and chairs.
The chain - which has small cinemas in its restaurants - submitted plans in December for an eatery on Mostyn Street, creating 30 jobs.

Planning officers approved the change of use for the shop unit but the plans to push on with the restaurant hit a snag due to restrictions on seating outside of the venue.
The company wanted to put five tables and 14 seats outside the restaurant to increase its covers and also fit with the Mediterranean theme of the chain.
However council officers included a condition in their planning permission that precluded having any seats and tables outside the site.
This was a potential deal breaker and Wildwood last month submitted an application to remove the condition. It was opposed by Llandudno Town Council who said the street furniture would prevent the passage of pedestrians and be detrimental to the street view.

Now planners at Conwy council have allowed the condition to be lifted, clearing the way for Wildwood to start work on the site.
They said: "On balance, the external seating area is considered to be acceptable in this instance."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-wildwood-open-11364633 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-cinema-restaurant-wildwood-open-11364633)


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 25, 2016, 01:32:31 pm
Breakfast at the skip this morning, yummy!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2016, 03:28:21 pm
No fried bread and hash brown?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 25, 2016, 05:39:31 pm
What time were you there Hollins? Doesn't look very busy, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on May 25, 2016, 05:44:50 pm
I went  last friday,ice place ,meu ver limited,masses of staff ,overall i might go again but no rush.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 25, 2016, 05:48:40 pm
What time were you there Hollins? Doesn't look very busy, unfortunately.


10am Tom. Most people were sat by the windows looking out and I try not to take photos of other customers. Every time we have been, usually at lunch time it has been busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on May 25, 2016, 08:21:06 pm
Surely you didn't pay nearly £9. For that breakfast  .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 26, 2016, 08:08:59 am
Oh dear, I seem to be the only forum member defending the skip.
I suppose it is understandable when so much money was wasted during the set up of the place and the massive disappointment when the original design was changed for the worse.
I agree with all that and as I have said before I couldn't have been more against the actual end result of the building.
However for us it is a treat to go there because the food is good and we can sit there with a view of the sea.
I suppose when you are local, unlike us, then a view of the sea is not so important.
As far as the breakfast is concerned, yes, I think it was £8.95 but my husband paid. It is very rare for us to have breakfast out in anything other than a hotel because we don't live in a town so we don't have anything to compare it with in restaurant terms. Hotel breakfasts that we have had recently cost a lot more than that.
I like many others was very sceptical about this venture but I have to say that yesterday the place was being well used.
While we we there yesterday there was a meeting going on in one of the rooms, people were enjoying breakfast in the restaurant including a group having a birthday treat. People using the cafe part for snacks, a sailing course going on in the watersports centre and people out on canoes.
As my mum would say, "It's all going on and I am sat at home!"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 26, 2016, 08:49:10 am
£9 for that!  :o shocking to my inner tightness lol! I would need open wallet surgery to pay that much!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 26, 2016, 08:50:55 am
I've been twice, the first time, with Bryn in the kitchen, the food was excellent and not entirely unreasonable, I thought. Very high quality and the staff were very friendly.

I went back for an evening meal the next week, the food wasn't as good (although still not bad) and the service was, to be frank, dire! I keep meaning to go back as that first meal was so good but I have not got around to it yet.

I was a big critic of the time it took Bryn to set up but now he's here I want Porth Eirias to be a success, of course.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 26, 2016, 11:46:04 am
£9 for that!  :o shocking to my inner tightness lol! I would need open wallet surgery to pay that much!  :laugh:

ME, you're not alone on that.
That breakfast looks almost identical to the one I get in Cafe Indulgence, but at £3.95, which includes a 'posh' coffee!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 26, 2016, 12:20:45 pm
We are regulars in Amanda's cafe in Steptoe's in Colwyn Bay, we can have two excellent veggie breakfasts with toast and drinks for around £11, that's my kind of price!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 26, 2016, 12:38:26 pm
Blimey, I quite enjoyed it until you all started going on about the price of it.
I daren't tell you what else we had!
Don't look ME     :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 26, 2016, 12:48:28 pm
We are regulars in Amanda's cafe in Steptoe's in Colwyn Bay, we can have two excellent veggie breakfasts with toast and drinks for around £11, that's my kind of price!  $good$
Very reasonable
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 26, 2016, 01:30:53 pm
OMG Hollins !

Fester:- Carole's breakfast at Indulgence will be excellent, I've known her for years and she certainly wouldn't fleece you.. and you can tell her I said so when you next go !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 26, 2016, 03:12:27 pm
Blimey, I quite enjoyed it until you all started going on about the price of it.
I daren't tell you what else we had!
Don't look ME     :o

Too late, I have seen it!  :o  :o Unlikely that we will ever eat in the skip, good luck to him if he can charge those prices!  ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 26, 2016, 03:33:02 pm
We enjoyed lunch at one of Ramsey's places in London for less that £80.00 all told.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 26, 2016, 04:13:44 pm
We enjoyed lunch at one of Ramsey's places in London for less that £80.00 all told.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 26, 2016, 05:09:39 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on May 27, 2016, 01:02:00 pm
As it happens we went in the last few days to Bryn Williams Porth Eirias for breakfast, time before was full so we had to leave it.
2 cooked breakfast, 2 Americanos and a toast was £28.00
No fried egg only poached and it says on the menu no changes.
Go to Nino's in Rhos, for £9 you get a plateful including coffee and toast.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 27, 2016, 02:06:18 pm
£28 for that is ridiculous!  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 27, 2016, 03:54:04 pm
Against my better judgement (no accounting for taste) the new Mulberry in Conwy seems to be thriving. Every table outside today was full as I ran past. I had a glance at the menu on the wall a few weeks back, nothing for me there as the vegetarian options such as they are, are limited and lacklustre.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 01, 2016, 12:20:30 pm
Tal-y-Cafn pub to re-open in July after six years
A pub that closed down six years ago is now set to re-open next month - bringing 20 jobs to the Conwy Valley.
The Tal y Cafn Pub on the A470 shut in 2010 and was later sold by Punch Taverns to EPM-UK.
Now after a major redevelopment project the venue is set to re-open in July with a commitment to local food and drink.
They are now starting a recruitment drive to complete the 20 strong team at the venue which will have 120 dining covers.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-re-11401614 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-re-11401614)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 01, 2016, 05:23:41 pm
Nice to see Wildwood has started at last.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 21, 2016, 04:09:04 pm
Wild Horse Brewery in Llandudno was launched just over a year ago - inspired by the craft ales in North America and a home brew kit.   Z**

Now Dave Faragher, 35, originally from Llanddulas , has invested in a huge increase in the capacity of the brewery.
They have gone from a half barrel system to a new 10 barrel brew house, taking the weekly pint production from 480 to 7,200.
Dave said: “This completely changes the scale of what we can do and also allows us to experiment more, increasing the range of beers we can produce here and expanding the draught side.

“We were turning away business in the past because we could not keep up with demand but now that will change and we are actively looking for more pubs to take on our beers.

“We want to bring some new beers that people will not have had in North Wales like Rhubarb Berliner Weisse.
“We will be doing one off beers that we can try out with our first about to launch, a Dry Hop American Wheat. We have 10 of these lined up.

“There is just me and my wife here at the moment but we have just had an ad in for a brewery assistant and we have had 40 applications which is amazing.
“We don’t need anyone with experience so this is an ideal opportunity for someone to come here and learn about brewing.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dave-beers-inall-7200-pints-11504023 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dave-beers-inall-7200-pints-11504023)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 22, 2016, 05:56:25 pm
We had lunch at the Skip today for the first time and really enjoyed the experience.   The window seats gave us an incredible view across the bay and it was nice just watching so many people enjoying the beach and the water sports.
We all settled for the Plaice which was delicious and afterwards had a coffee.    It has a very relaxing atmosphere and the staff were good so it all made for a good first impression.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 22, 2016, 07:31:07 pm
What a relief! So pleased you enjoyed it. I would have felt awful if you hadn't.
We like it for all the reasons you described and especially the viewing position.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2016, 09:50:34 am
Another return visit to the Seahorse last Friday, and another fantastic meal from Don and team. Smoked Salmon in a Whisky & Dill dressing for starters, Duck with oriental plum sauce for main, and Creme Brulee for pudding. Excellent!  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 24, 2016, 07:27:27 pm
We called at the Toad in Colwyn Bay for lunch today and picked the right time too because later on the place became extremely busy and the staff did well to cope with the number of people arriving.
The £6.00 lunch was as good and tasty as ever and a nice cappuccino finished the lunch off.       $good$ 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 24, 2016, 11:00:32 pm
Dave R,  you are a man of Pizza, 
As such I recommend you visit the new Johnny Dough restaurant in upper Mostyn St.
It's fantastic, and I'll be a regular.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 25, 2016, 02:26:07 pm
Dave R,  you are a man of Pizza, 
As such I recommend you visit the new Johnny Dough restaurant in upper Mostyn St.
It's fantastic, and I'll be a regular.
We shall certainly give it a go!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: MrMikeWilson on July 04, 2016, 08:43:43 pm
Coming to Llandudno... Providero 2... I'm a big fan of these guys!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1125521305/providero-tea-and-coffee-house-llandudno (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1125521305/providero-tea-and-coffee-house-llandudno)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2016, 10:56:02 pm
I'm a big fan of Kava, Orient Express, Poco, and the other 573 coffee shops in the radius of 100 yards from this one.
I wonder if anything different will ever open on our streets again?
Although, to be fair, I know more than most why it's probably a waste of time trying.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2016, 08:34:57 am
Coming to Llandudno... Providero 2... I'm a big fan of these guys!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1125521305/providero-tea-and-coffee-house-llandudno (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1125521305/providero-tea-and-coffee-house-llandudno)
It's great to see Providero opening a branch in Llandudno, the one in the Junction was far too small for them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2016, 08:59:42 am
I'm a big fan of Kava, Orient Express, Poco, and the other 573 coffee shops in the radius of 100 yards from this one.
I wonder if anything different will ever open on our streets again?
Although, to be fair, I know more than most why it's probably a waste of time trying.

Llandudno must be approaching over a 100 coffee shops by now, I'd have thought. And the idea that tiny, speciality shops that don't flog coffee could thrive in Llandudno's main areas does seem something of a pipe dream.

I suspect the big problem is that we've become used to almost instant gratification. Last week I had to replace an old NiCad drill which was working perfectly, but the NiCads no longer held a charge.  For the same price as the cost of replacing the batteries I was able to get a new Bosch 18v Li2, as well as its smaller brother. The interesting bit was that Amazon was out of stock of the smaller model, but B & Q had it in stock for the same price, so B & Q benefited. The 18v model, however, was in stock and arrived the day after the order was placed.

I suppose we want everything yesterday, now, and the likes of Amazon has conditioned us into simply accepting that fact. The only small shops I suspect can survive are anything to do with food - such as specialist confectioners - and possibly service industry shops, such as repair shops or video transfer and editing studios. But the days of the small non-food retailer on the high street have gone, I suspect. And I find that sad.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on July 07, 2016, 04:17:41 pm
nice pizza in Jonnys Doughts last nite,nothing else available thought,zilch,unless i missed something
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 22, 2016, 11:04:50 am
Not sure I understand the business plan of Sinatra's on Madoc St.

From the outside it looks like a trendy wine and cocktail bar... yet it has been closed every evening this week. Not sure about weekend opening hours but surprising to me it shuts up shop at 5pm.

Exclusive for ladies who lunch?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 22, 2016, 03:24:52 pm
nice pizza in Jonnys Doughts last nite,nothing else available thought,zilch,unless i missed something

The Gresh was serving quite late Wrex, and also there's always The Asia or the Emperor until at least 11pm
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 25, 2016, 11:46:28 am
Lovely pizza in Johnny Dough's on Saturday night - really cracking. No fannying about with any thing else either, which I like. Pizza or bust, good selection of local drinks too.

After that had a few pints in the Gresham watching the live music - which was okay but the place seemed quiet.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 26, 2016, 09:39:48 am
Good news or bad news...........?

Dylan's restaurant bosses exploring Rhos on Sea site for new eatery.

Restaurant group Dylan’s have confirmed they are looking at four different sites in Conwy - including a landmark site in Rhos on Sea.

Dylan’s has long harboured an ambition to open a restaurant in the county, after already operating two successful restaurants in Menai Bridge and Criccieth.

One site owners are now considering is Rhos Point, in Rhos on Sea, which is ripe for redevelopment.

The area, which used to house a few shops and a restaurant, has become an eyesore. The local authority hopes to demolish all the buildings and get it ready for redevelopment.

One of Dylan’s owners Robin Hodgson said: “We haven’t signed anything yet, or made a decision about a site in Conwy.
“Rhos Point is in an excellent position, and it is a possibility.
“We have not 100% written it off, but we’d have to go to tender like everybody else and that does delay things.
“We’d like to open somewhere in Conwy as soon as possible, we are already a year behind in our plan.”

MORE  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/dylans-restaurant-bosses-exploring-rhos-11662628 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/dylans-restaurant-bosses-exploring-rhos-11662628)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 26, 2016, 10:57:39 am
It's a good job that they moved Jonathan Hughes from the site or they wouldn't have had many customers
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 29, 2016, 05:22:15 pm
New Indian restaurant opening in the old Vollams newsagent's, Gloddaeth Street,.....Mango and ....... ?  cannot remember the last name.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 29, 2016, 06:33:22 pm
Bamboo.
Has it actually got going again? Nothing been happening in there for ages .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 29, 2016, 07:24:39 pm
Bamboo.
Has it actually got going again? Nothing been happening in there for ages .

Passed today and noticed a sign "coming soon"   .....Maybe I have missed it before?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on July 29, 2016, 08:08:17 pm
Last I heard was that they had given up on the idea. Also I think there is/was a sign in the window that the lease was up for grabs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2016, 05:18:37 pm
We enjoyed a lovely evening with delicious food at Signatures Conwy last night.   I had the local Wild Sea Bass with seared king scallop, wild king prawn tagliatelle, glazed courgettes, carrot & coral cream and it was superb           $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 01, 2016, 09:45:30 am
Late Sunday dinner in the Albert yesterday evening. 7/10 - a bit pricey at £10.50 and not up to their usual high standards.

Still enjoyable, perhaps would have been better earlier in the day.

I had roast lamb  $good$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 01, 2016, 04:53:31 pm
Whan do you think you will be having lunch in the Tudno Castle,very quiet the press
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 01, 2016, 05:06:42 pm
The Tudno Castle looked very blue today.


Treated my mum to lunch at the skip today.
Good selection of vegetables in the risotto but a bit too salty for my taste. Mum enjoyed the plaice with asparagus and grapes and I also had a tasty pork terrine for starter and floating islands for dessert but disappointed that the pink sugared almonds from last time had been replaced with pistachios.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 02, 2016, 06:33:53 am
The food fluctuates wildly depending on who's in the kitchen/what's available.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 02, 2016, 09:28:12 am
The wood fire pizza place in Llandudno that Fester recommended some time ago is indeed excellent  $good$
(Even a stopped clock etc  :P) Pizza - brilliant and reasonably priced - Beer - excellent local selection Z**
Few too many hipster types hanging around with dread locks and beards and the like - I think it's the wooden tables that attracts them. but overall a lovely place with a great ambience and will be a regular customer  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 02, 2016, 12:42:05 pm
Llandudno Providero cafe WILL open after customers raised £30,000.

Since opening in Llandudno Junction, thanks to crowdfunding, Providero Tea & Coffee House has proved a massive success which saw space become an issue at the high street cafe.

This saw them launch a KickStarter campaign to collect £30,000 to support the opening of a second cafe on Upper Mostyn Street in Llandudno.
Yesterday they hit the funding target after support from 340 backers, meaning the project will now go ahead.

More and video...... http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-providero-cafe-open-after-11692998 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-providero-cafe-open-after-11692998)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2016, 06:26:39 pm
Lunch at the Hayloft Restaurant, Bodnant Welsh Food Centre yesterday. Very average and a let down on expectations compared to the menu description. Trying to put a twist on the average pub menu but failing with poor combinations and delivery.
What was amusing was when a waiter came to our table with two steaks and asked which of the four of us had ordered them.
"Not us" was the reply.
Waiter goes to another table where two people were seated and asks if they had ordered steak.
Rebuffed he returned to the kitchen to re emerge soon after heading to the only other occupied table in the restaurant.
Right this time!
No wonder my burger was tepid by the time I received it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2016, 05:27:02 pm
Not a specific place but does anyone else share my views on how food is served?
What's it all about when you get you meal served on a piece of roofing material ? I was recently in a cafe where they served hot drinks in a jam jar, complete with the screw top where your lips are meant to be and with a handle to hold on to it. The latter I have to admit were also being sold in Aldi. Why would you want to to buy one? I have yet to hear of anyone who actually serves their dinner on a slate at home so why do you have to put up with it in a restaurant. It's a daft fad.
The ultimate bad combination is chips in a wire basket presented on a flat piece of slate. Vinegar in a jug. You try to trickle the vinegar but it rushes out, covers the chips, drains through the basket and runs off the slate on to the table. If you are unlucky it drains off the table on to your legs!
What's wrong with a proper plate?
 :rage:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 05, 2016, 05:43:11 pm
Found this image just for you :-)  :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 12, 2016, 11:52:58 am
The fountains bar has been reposed ,changed locks and all.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 12, 2016, 01:31:01 pm
Heard that too Wrex - not got it confirmed yet. Apparently someone there early this morning to change the locks.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 12, 2016, 03:43:16 pm
No notice outside saying anything.

However,  the tables and chairs that were outside are all now stacked up inside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on August 12, 2016, 05:10:07 pm
Its not only Fountains that's locked up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on August 12, 2016, 05:17:33 pm
More Dave,can;t just leave it like that lol
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 13, 2016, 09:09:40 am
Is a shop locked up as well ,seemed strange it was locked up when I went there last .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 22, 2016, 08:25:43 pm
I'm told Fountains was shut due to an unpaid roof repair bill, it was then re-opened to sell all the booze off.

No shortage of people after it, due to prime location.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: garth on August 23, 2016, 03:51:49 pm
Does any body know whether it will reopen as a bar or will it be a completely different business?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2016, 08:40:13 am
I'm hoping the Roberts clan will reopen it as a general store, just like in the old days...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2016, 08:58:50 am
I see the Tal Y Cafn Hotel will re-opening this weekend as a Pub Restaurant, after being closed for 6 years. All the best to Castell Developments (who also own Gwrych Casstle in Abergele) with their new venture.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on August 25, 2016, 07:52:15 pm
  The Tal y Cafn has had three major revamps over the last 15 years. Don't know what went wrong with the first two. The six years closure will do it some good, it might remove peoples memories of it around 12 years ago under Punch Taverns. They put a succession of trainee managers in charge and most of them were terrible.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2016, 08:33:53 am
  The Tal y Cafn has had three major revamps over the last 15 years. Don't know what went wrong with the first two. The six years closure will do it some good, it might remove peoples memories of it around 12 years ago under Punch Taverns. They put a succession of trainee managers in charge and most of them were terrible.
It's in a location that means the food has to be top notch to persuade people to drive over  to it, i suppose.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2016, 10:21:07 am
.First look at Tal-y-Cafn bistro pub after £1m renovation.

Video  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/first-look-tal-y-cafn-11799259 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/first-look-tal-y-cafn-11799259)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 01, 2016, 04:44:26 pm
Absolutely delicious fresh tasting whole plaice was my choice at the skip today. It came with brown shrimp, grapefruit and radish. Full marks for that one.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 02, 2016, 04:44:45 pm
We passed the old Vollams shop in Gloddaeth Steet this afternoon, (where I worked 50 years ago), and the door was open to the new restaurant.

It looks nearly finished and appears quite nice inside.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 02, 2016, 05:44:54 pm
They will have a tough time with Cheaperspoons on their doorstep. Hope they do well whoever they are
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2016, 06:17:04 pm
New Indian restaurant opening in the old Vollams newsagent's, Gloddaeth Street,.....Mango and ....... ?  cannot remember the last name.

Mango and Bamboo Indian restaurant as far as I know.....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 06, 2016, 07:41:43 am
They looked about ready to open when I walked past last week, looking forward to trying it out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2016, 08:33:01 am
They will have a tough time with Cheaperspoons on their doorstep. Hope they do well whoever they are
Asia does very well across the road from Wetherspoons, for people who aren't keen on microwaved Indian food.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 06, 2016, 09:36:21 am
They will have a tough time with Cheaperspoons on their doorstep. Hope they do well whoever they are
Asia does very well across the road from Wetherspoons, for people who aren't keen on microwaved Indian food.  :laugh:

For sure, that's been their years though and has a good reputation, will be harder for a new place.
I prefer Bengal to Asia - there is also a good eat as much as you can place above the Ice cream shop near the conservative club
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 06, 2016, 10:25:11 am
Which Indian you prefer in Llandudno says a lot about a person I think.

I'm not sure what exactly, but y'know... a lot.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2016, 12:35:02 pm
Which Indian you prefer in Llandudno says a lot about a person I think.

I'm not sure what exactly, but y'know... a lot.
Which one would you vote for, Tom?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 07, 2016, 06:59:31 am
I used to be a Bengal man, in fact that was the first establishment I ate in in Llandudno.

Now, I'm swinging more to Asia.

I don't rate either particularly highly in the curry stakes to be honest but they're the only game in town (I think)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 07, 2016, 09:06:41 am
Asia is a nicer place that cannot be argued, but Bengal is better for food. Although I'm vegetarian so couldn't comment on any meat products
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 07, 2016, 01:25:02 pm
Gin boom has seen three North Wales distilleries take craft spirit sector by storm.                  ZXZ

A surge of interest in craft spirits has seen a new gin industry suddenly take-off in North Wales.
Just over twelve months ago there wasn’t a single gin distillery in North Wales but now there are three small producers in the region.

Snowdonia Distillery in the Conwy Valley have been joined by Dyfi Distillery in Corris, Gwynedd, and North Star, also in the Conwy Valley.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/gin-boom-seen-three-north-11852950 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/gin-boom-seen-three-north-11852950)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2016, 08:58:15 am
I prefer Asia really, never had a bad curry there yet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 10, 2016, 12:06:02 pm
The new Mango and Bamboo Restaurant will be offering both an Indian and Chinese Buffet when it opens on the 20th September.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 10, 2016, 12:12:29 pm
I went to Asia last night... maybe all this curry talk got my tastebuds going. It was great! Best one I've had from there yet.

I can't quite remember what it was called, something with garlic and chilli, recommended by the proprieter (who also offered me a half-price second pint while I waited).

He said he wasn't worried about new competition.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: garth on September 10, 2016, 03:01:44 pm
Are there any further developments on what is happening at the Fountains Bar?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 10, 2016, 05:03:48 pm
I went to Asia last night... maybe all this curry talk got my tastebuds going. It was great! Best one I've had from there yet.

I can't quite remember what it was called, something with garlic and chilli, recommended by the proprieter (who also offered me a half-price second pint while I waited).

He said he wasn't worried about new competition.

I think you had the 'South Indian garlic chilli'
It really should be simply called the 'Bangladeshi garlic chilli',  but for some reason the proprietor chooses to put South Indian into the title instead.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 11, 2016, 03:43:21 pm
That's it! It was so good I went back last night for seconds  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2016, 09:39:54 am
Went to the Seahorse on Friday night. The 3 course menu at £29.95 is great value. Food and service were excellent as always, and good to see it packed in there.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 16, 2016, 08:12:43 pm
Went to the Seahorse on Friday night. The 3 course menu at £29.95 is great value. Food and service were excellent as always, and good to see it packed in there.  $good$

Is Don still the chef/owner there? I thought he was selling it.

Two new ticks for me today. First solo lunch at the skip, most enjoyable, followed by a mooch around my first ever B&M store. Blimey, some things are miles cheaper in there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2016, 09:37:36 am
Is Don still the chef/owner there? I thought he was selling it.
Yes, he is...and long may he stay there!  $dins$  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2016, 11:02:55 am
We popped into the new Tal Y Cafn Hotel yesterday, thinking about having a  Sunday Roast there. Unfortunately, it was completely booked up, the Manager told us that they were expecting 150 people that lunchtime! So we ended up at the Royal Oak in Betws Y Coed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 20, 2016, 06:22:24 pm
Mango and Bamboo opens this evening in the former Vollams shop.

£17.95 per adult.

Child prices are available.

Chinese and Indian buffet.

Maybe worth a try, DaveR, if the Tal y Cafn is always full.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 03, 2016, 04:27:51 pm
Wildwood to open tomorrow, according to reports.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2016, 04:34:21 pm
Wildwood to open tomorrow, according to reports.
Its looking great inside. A contractor I spoke to said it was opening tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2016, 09:01:39 pm
Following Bri Roberts recommendation, I was then visited by BlongB, who seconded what Bri said.
So, we went to Mango and Bamboo on Monday.
I have to admit, the quality of food is fantastic.
A few teething troubles around the labelling of what the many dishes on offer were supposed to be, but overall it's great.
We'll be going back there soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2016, 10:11:09 pm
I don't recall actually recommending the new restaurant, Fester, but I am pleased to learn you enjoyed the experience.

Perhaps, we shall soon give it a try as well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2016, 10:23:21 pm
I don't recall actually recommending the new restaurant, Fester, but I am pleased to learn you enjoyed the experience.

Perhaps, we shall soon give it a try as well.

Sorry Bri,  when you said 'worth a try', I took you literally
Make sure you're hungry when you go!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2016, 10:00:03 am
I have heard that Wildwood's did not get approval for the cinema section of their plan, due to noise concerns, ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 04, 2016, 03:05:59 pm
I had a sit-down curry in The Raj in Conwy on Friday night and it was great, comfortably better than Bengal and (probably) better than Asia. Only problem was staff kicking us out at 10.30pm.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2016, 01:29:05 pm
Wildwood is open:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2016, 02:34:37 pm
OOP'S  senior moment, I have just walked past, (other side) and did not notice.....should have gone to S..........
Looks good.

Anybody heard about the cinema issue?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2016, 04:56:11 pm
Wildwood opens Llandudno restaurant...but films are off the menu.

National chain Wildwood has opened its first restaurant in Wales.
The restaurant chain - which is popular across the south of England - has now opened in Llandudno, creating 30 new jobs.
They say the restaurant will bring something new to the seaside resort and add to the eating out scene.
The chain usually has small cinemas at its sites but has had to remove that from the plan in Llandudno because there was not enough space at the unit on Mostyn Street.

MORE  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/wildwood-opens-llandudno-restaurantbut-films-11983796 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/wildwood-opens-llandudno-restaurantbut-films-11983796)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 05, 2016, 07:41:06 pm
The cinema is the USP of the place, now it's just another place to eat. Still, will give it a go.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2016, 05:23:29 pm
Llandudno's Fountains cafe bar will re-open this weekend after closing in the summer.
The pub on Upper Mostyn Street shut suddenly in August with no explanation for the closure.
But they have now announced on social media that the bar will re-open on Friday at  8pm.  ref DP

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on October 07, 2016, 07:26:04 am
We should petition for the reopening of the Ven!

Oh, and the Savoy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 07, 2016, 12:09:18 pm
Llandudno's Fountains cafe bar will re-open this weekend after closing in the summer.
The pub on Upper Mostyn Street shut suddenly in August with no explanation for the closure.
But they have now announced on social media that the bar will re-open on Friday at  8pm.  ref DP

Terrible place, I went to the bar once on a Saturday night to let a member of staff know that their burglar alarm had been going off really loud for the last hour non stop......turned out that was the music.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2016, 09:09:51 am
I went to Asia last night... maybe all this curry talk got my tastebuds going. It was great! Best one I've had from there yet.

I can't quite remember what it was called, something with garlic and chilli, recommended by the proprieter (who also offered me a half-price second pint while I waited).

He said he wasn't worried about new competition.

I think you had the 'South Indian garlic chilli'
It really should be simply called the 'Bangladeshi garlic chilli',  but for some reason the proprietor chooses to put South Indian into the title instead.
'
We went to Asia on Saturday and had the 'South Indian Garlic Chilli'. it was fantastic!  $good$

If you're ever on Anglesey, the Meghna Tandoori in Church St,  Beaumaris does a 'Garlic Chillic Chicken', which is a touch hotter and spicier than the Asia version. Highly recommended!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 10, 2016, 10:27:50 am
My favourite Indian restaurant locally is the Jai Ho, excellent food and usually dependable. The Shapla, (Takeaway)Mostyn Ave, Craig-y-Don is also reliably good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 10, 2016, 10:43:53 am
I was in Asia on Saturday night too. Picking up a takeaway  D) D) D)

I haven't tried the Llanrwst one yet, I keep meaning to.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 10, 2016, 10:51:54 am
Try that Mango and Bamboo.... I'm TELLING YOU!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 10, 2016, 11:11:52 am
It's next on my list!  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2016, 09:52:58 am
Try that Mango and Bamboo.... I'm TELLING YOU!!
Are they going to be doing a proper menu, rather than just the Buffet soon?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 12, 2016, 10:51:00 am
Try that Mango and Bamboo.... I'm TELLING YOU!!
Are they going to be doing a proper menu, rather than just the Buffet soon?

Yep, a la carte in the week, and buffet at weekends..... coming soon,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 12, 2016, 11:50:49 am
Are you their PR Fester?  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 12, 2016, 04:48:33 pm
Are you their PR Fester?  ;)

No, I've only been once, and the info I gave might be the other way round... too much of  Z** see!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 20, 2016, 12:50:43 pm
Wildwood 0. Johnny Dough's 1

Yesterday, Morgan, the proprietor of the most excellent new pizza place, Johnny Doughs, successfully challenged Wildwoods in terms of their misleading signage.

There has been a large sign outside Wildwoods advertising 'Wood Fired Pizza' ever since opening, but their ovens are GAS fired only.
So, once approached, Wildwoods were forced to admit their false claim and remove the signage immediately.

By the way.... we ate in Johnny Dough's again last night, it's fantastic.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 20, 2016, 12:52:02 pm
That's a good story, might clue my colleague onto it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 21, 2016, 12:16:44 pm
I'm surprised you fit in with all them hipsters Fester! It is a great place though, and kids can make their own pizza and have an ice cream for a fiver.

Conwy food festival tonight and a live performance from the mighty Pinc Ffloyd  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 28, 2016, 12:05:36 am
Couldn't find much open to get a meal in after 8.30pm, so tried Wildwoods tonight.
It's quite nice inside, a nice addition to the town, but overall it's pretty average at best.

My starter was Mushrooms, blue cheese, but sprinkled with walnuts?  - a bit weird, but ok for six quid.
My wife had goats cheese, but it was deep fried, pre made microwave fodder, worth a fraction of the six quid it cost.  4/10 she said.

We decided to buy the Gigantica pizza at £13.95,   (To share) Which is 100% more expensive than the regular pizza, but compared to the one I saw on the next table is actually about 12% bigger than the norm!
Spicy meatballs were supposed to be the main ingredient, but there were 4 of them, the size of raisins, strategically placed on this stretched piece of bread.  A bit of shredded ham, some pepperoni, and that was about it.
(Asda meat feat pizza is £3.95, and its brimming with great toppings, and impossible to finish)

So overall, we rated it 6/10,  not good enough really,  it's just mass market, franchise fodder that can be dished up with minimal effort, little or no culinary skill and easily staffed by school leavers or migrant workers.

There are so many better places to eat in the 3 towns area.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on October 28, 2016, 09:32:12 am
Sounds a rip off to me, ( well it would I hear you say ! ) but when you can buy a pizza for 89p in Aldi , complete with cheese and tomato and add toppings to it if you wish, it seems worse ! We have had a few of these, 1/2 each, with a jacket spud, and/or garlic bread plus salad if you like same and have enjoyed them. A bigger appetite than ours would probably want a whole one each, but it is all personal taste.

Here I go again....economy  !! :o :-X
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 28, 2016, 10:32:28 am
We had a superb meal, as usual, in the Jai Ho in Deganwy at the weekend, only let down by the owner standing at our table droning on for some time about problems with the customers at Mango and Bamboo. The problems they are causing are making her consider changing the format of the venue. Whilst I sympathise with her issues, we didn't really want to play Agony Aunt to her problems whilst out for a meal with friends.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 28, 2016, 12:11:08 pm
I keep meaning to try Jai Ho, I've not been to Nikki Ips either, shame on me. Trying to persuade the other half to go out for dinner this weekend.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 28, 2016, 12:54:01 pm
In my every visit to the Jai Ho since it has opened I've never had less than an excellent meal, the quality of the food certainly make it the best Indian restaurant in the area. Last weekend was superb. I only hope that the standard of excellence continues, so many Indian restaurants are very 'hit and miss', the Jai ho, has to date, maintained a continual exceptional standard of food. I pray that it continues!

We also enjoy Nikki Ipps, again, exceptional food with an excellent reputation that is always very busy. The only drawback to Nikki Ipps is a rather limited menu, and after a couple of visits, you feel that you've tried everything on offer and the limited menu doesn't change.

As you can tell, I consider Jai Ho and Nikki Ipps  to be excellent restaurants and we are very lucky to have them, I only wish that more restaurants were to the same standard, but they are few and far between.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 28, 2016, 04:32:06 pm
Mango and Bamboo never seems to have enough customers to have problems with!

Here's a prediction for you,  it will be gone very early in 2017,  and Johnny Dough!s Pizza place will relocate into there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 31, 2016, 08:19:45 am
Do you really think it'll only last a few months?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 31, 2016, 02:21:56 pm
Do you really think it'll only last a few months?

Aye, not enough local trade for all these new eateries.
Incidentally, I met up with a group of my wife's friends last night,  they had all just been to Wildwoods.
Very disappointed with everything, just as we were.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 03, 2016, 11:04:49 pm
Been back to Mango and Bamboo.
Superb food, superb staff ... 4th visit now.
I look forward to more locals trying it, because that's the only way good quality eateries can survive outside of the ever-shortening tourist season.

I know what the owner was saying to Bosun though, because more and more 'problem customers' are being attracted to Llandudno.
I have seen tables of eight visitors in the Emperor Chinese all walk out refusing to pay, after gorging themselves on food and alcohol.  It made me angry and sick for the proprietor.
The same has apparently happened 2 or 3 times in Mango and Bamboo in the previous few weeks.
They don't deserve to be treated this way by scum, freeloading visitors, no one does.

Other than employ a massive, intimidating chef or doorman, I'm not sure what can be done about such anti social characters.
I wish Mango and Bamboo every success though, because they make great food and try really hard.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 04, 2016, 07:55:44 am
Good security cam footage might be a start.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 04, 2016, 12:19:15 pm
Been back to Mango and Bamboo.
Superb food, superb staff ... 4th visit now.
I look forward to more locals trying it, because that's the only way good quality eateries can survive outside of the ever-shortening tourist season.

I know what the owner was saying to Bosun though, because more and more 'problem customers' are being attracted to Llandudno.
I have seen tables of eight visitors in the Emperor Chinese all walk out refusing to pay, after gorging themselves on food and alcohol.  It made me angry and sick for the proprietor.
The same has apparently happened 2 or 3 times in Mango and Bamboo in the previous few weeks.
They don't deserve to be treated this way by scum, freeloading visitors, no one does.

Other than employ a massive, intimidating chef or doorman, I'm not sure what can be done about such anti social characters.
I wish Mango and Bamboo every success though, because they make great food and try really hard.

Surely that's illegal? What was their reasoning?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2016, 01:46:25 pm
Fester do you know whats attracting these ...problem customers...... to Llandudno?  And where are these visitors from ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 04, 2016, 05:31:26 pm
Steve, the benefits culture and changes in society mainly.
But the pier owners encouraging his tenants from Rhyl and Towyn to have day trips in Llandudno brings a certain type of family, regularly, in higher numbers.

B2R,  no reason other than freeloading and anti social behaviour.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2016, 07:23:16 pm
Thanks F.   Its a shame,  I wish M&B and the others  success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on November 05, 2016, 05:38:31 pm
We are very lucky to have such a good choice of places to eat in this town
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Big Alan on November 05, 2016, 06:41:33 pm
Me and Paula saw a couple do a runner from the Gresham on Friday night! :o total shock, didn't look the type. We didn't even get onto it until we saw the young Spanish? Lad leg it after them. Felt sorry for him ???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on November 05, 2016, 07:00:19 pm
Guess that is why places like the Cottage Loaf take your credit card up front and put it in a safe and give you the key.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 05, 2016, 08:09:13 pm
Me and Paula saw a couple do a runner from the Gresham on Friday night! :o total shock, didn't look the type. We didn't even get onto it until we saw the young Spanish? Lad leg it after them. Felt sorry for him ???

He's Greek, Big Al,  and it happens too often in the Gresham and everywhere else.

Jack, you are spot on, and it's a shame it has come to that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on November 05, 2016, 10:35:24 pm
Guess that is why places like the Cottage Loaf take your credit card up front and put it in a safe and give you the key.


I'd never give my card to anyone regardless of the circumstances, that's how a lot of past scams have happened with them cloning the card. I'd offer to pay up front or go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 06, 2016, 08:59:41 am
Me and Paula saw a couple do a runner from the Gresham on Friday night! :o total shock, didn't look the type. We didn't even get onto it until we saw the young Spanish? Lad leg it after them. Felt sorry for him ???

He's Greek, Big Al,  and it happens too often in the Gresham and everywhere else.

Jack, you are spot on, and it's a shame it has come to that.


I am totally shocked that this sort of thing goes on in LLandudno. How very sad. How can anyone think of doing this in the first place and surely they can be found on CCTV cameras these days?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 06, 2016, 09:21:07 am
I agree with SDQ about the credit card but the way around this is for restaurants to adopt the hotel model.  If the Credit card imprint is taken upon arrival then that's a reasonable guarantee for the restaurant.  It's not foolproof, of course, but what is?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 06, 2016, 01:12:52 pm
The type of people that are prepared to leave a restaurant without paying are not worried by CCTV cameras. They are prepared to be physical to the point of violence if anyone attempts to stop them and then, in the rare event that the Police are called, if the Police arrive in time, or if they are identified to the Police, they then claim that the food/meal etc was inferior or poor quality and that they were not prepared to pay; it then becomes a civil matter, i.e. exchange names and addresses and the restaurant has to take civil action to recover the money, and no restaurant is going to do that. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 06, 2016, 01:46:54 pm
Before reading these latest posts, I would have been annoyed if asked for credit details before eating to the point of walking out, I still would not let a credit card out of my sight nor a swiped imprint, however now being aware of the problems I would not object to paying at time of ordering, similar to the system used by bars, I think the restaurants have to get together and work out a method acceptable to both parties .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 06, 2016, 02:12:07 pm
The problem with paying at the point of ordering swings the problem the other way, the customer has no recourse if the experience is unacceptable. I have been in that situation in a restaurant in Stratford Upon Avon, Payment required on order, and a disgusting meal met with shrugged shoulders on complaint. 99.9% of restaurants and customers work well together. It might be suggested that the type of people that do 'runners' can be recognised in advance with a little acumen and common sense, and restaurants should refuse to serve them in the first place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 06, 2016, 04:03:24 pm
I agree that it is a minority causing the problem, maybe restaurants have to accept the situation, the same as shop keepers expect shoplifting?  A sad outlook.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 06, 2016, 08:10:03 pm
I agree that it is a minority causing the problem, maybe restaurants have to accept the situation, the same as shop keepers expect shoplifting?  A sad outlook.

They shouldn't have to do that Steve as the restaurants have to make a living and work hard in doing so.   It's a crime and they should be held accountable for it.
Good CCTV is a must and the images should be circulated by the Police in order to find these scumbags and then they should be barred from the Restaurants and Pubs in the area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2016, 09:51:52 am
I agree that it is a minority causing the problem, maybe restaurants have to accept the situation, the same as shop keepers expect shoplifting?  A sad outlook.

Sadly the instances of shoplifting/stealing seem to be on the up. The Charity shop where I help is constantly being stolen from. CDs mysteriously disappear from their cases, people try things on and leave wearing them, plus their own clothes on top, and jewellery walks very quickly.

How people can live with their consciences I don't know. :-[
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 07, 2016, 10:24:25 am
Consciences?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2016, 11:39:23 am
Consciences?

Exactly  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 07, 2016, 12:22:04 pm
Steve, the benefits culture and changes in society mainly.
But the pier owners encouraging his tenants from Rhyl and Towyn to have day trips in Llandudno brings a certain type of family, regularly, in higher numbers.

B2R,  no reason other than freeloading and anti social behaviour.

I don't see how it's anything to do with benefits. If you are on benefits you shouldn't reasonably expect to eat in nice a restaurant on that kind of budget so they clearly have no intention of paying. Whether they were on benefits or not it seems to me they wouldn't pay. Also when you say 'his tenants from Rhyl and Towyn' I'm not sure what you mean as Tir Prince  doesn't have tenants, it's just a funfair. There are two caravan parks close to there but he doesn't own them, also the tenants at those parks are unlikely to be on benefits as the site fees alone are upwards of £2500 per year.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 07, 2016, 12:27:43 pm
Steve, the benefits culture and changes in society mainly.
But the pier owners encouraging his tenants from Rhyl and Towyn to have day trips in Llandudno brings a certain type of family, regularly, in higher numbers.

B2R,  no reason other than freeloading and anti social behaviour.

I don't see how it's anything to do with benefits. If you are on benefits you shouldn't reasonably expect to eat in nice a restaurant on that kind of budget so they clearly have no intention of paying. Whether they were on benefits or not it seems to me they wouldn't pay. Also when you say 'his tenants from Rhyl and Towyn' I'm not sure what you mean as Tir Prince  doesn't have tenants, it's just a funfair. There are two caravan parks close to there but he doesn't own them, also the tenants at those parks are unlikely to be on benefits as the site fees alone are upwards of £2500 per year.

B2R,  there is a LOT that he owns (in some cases part-owns), that most don't know about.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 07, 2016, 04:29:40 pm
Tonight I'm going to eat at Harveys. Doesn't get mentioned much on here, got a lot of bad press when it first opened I remember but last time I went there it was great. Will let you know how tonight pans out.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 07, 2016, 05:11:35 pm
Tonight I'm going to eat at Harveys. Doesn't get mentioned much on here, got a lot of bad press when it first opened I remember but last time I went there it was great. Will let you know how tonight pans out.

I tried it about 2 months ago, really fancied a burger for lunch, O.H. had club toastie which was very good, however my burger was a disaster, cold greasy undercooked, bun not toasted.........hope you have better luck.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 08, 2016, 09:22:34 am
Was excellent cannot find fault. They didn't have a veggie burger on the menu so the chef made one up from scratch, nice to see some common sense. Massive portions and two meals for £10.99 they also do 5 Budweisers for £10. Cheaper than Wetherspoons I think and I know I'd rather be sitting in there with the excellent music and surroundings than disused warehousespoons
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2016, 09:41:44 am
We went to Mango & Bamboo last Saturday. Whilst the food was good (certainly as good as Asia), I prefer the restaurant style of service, rather than the self service buffet. On balance, I think I prefer Asia.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 08, 2016, 12:05:02 pm
What do you think of the all you can eat place above the Ice Cream shop near the Conservative club?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on November 09, 2016, 12:03:59 am
What do you think of the all you can eat place above the Ice Cream shop near the Conservative club?

I like the Emperor a lot B2R, it's basic Chinese but you never come away hungry, service is quick, beers cold and the food on the starters is always topped up quickly. Mains are cooked to order so all in all good value for money.   Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 12, 2016, 08:38:31 am
I have read on my local news aka Tom's twitter page that Dylans has bought the Washington.
Hooray, can't wait for that one to open.....late spring 2017.
Tom, I have just read that you can't wait either, get in the queue!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-reveal-location-third-restaurant-12163818 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-reveal-location-third-restaurant-12163818)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 12, 2016, 08:51:03 am
I'm looking forward to it a lot! I like Dylans in Menai (not been to the one in Criccieth) although I do think the menu is too big, it's massive!

I really hope it's a success. Obviously Dylans wanted the site on Conwy quay but it was rejected, I think the Washington is a great choice of venue.

Primark, Dylans, Providero... Llandundo really booming atm.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 12, 2016, 09:02:24 am
It will give the skip a run for their money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 12, 2016, 09:13:48 am
Parking would be only concern regarding the Washington site really. Other than that I can see nothing which will stop it being a success
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 12, 2016, 09:21:40 am
The Washington has its own car park at the rear, Tom. There's plenty of free parking all along the promenade and around C-y-D within a few minutes walk.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 12, 2016, 09:28:59 am
Y'see I didn't know that! Must have had a mind blank, fears allayed.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 12, 2016, 09:36:07 am
There is still a taxi rank for several taxis right outside in Clarence Road.

That is the long yellow line you can see in today's press photograph.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 13, 2016, 03:07:07 pm
Salt and Pepper in Llandudno has closed for the winter - they left an interesting note in the door

https://twitter.com/DPTomDavidson/status/797769203952549888
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on November 13, 2016, 09:54:44 pm
Salt and Pepper in Llandudno has closed for the winter - they left an interesting note in the door

https://twitter.com/DPTomDavidson/status/797769203952549888

When the Fat Cat closed and the Lilly took its place, the new owners wouldn't pay the rent on the a joining building, which is owned by the Mediterranean, situated on the other side of Salt and Pepper.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2016, 11:53:14 am
I'm looking forward to it a lot! I like Dylans in Menai (not been to the one in Criccieth) although I do think the menu is too big, it's massive!

I really hope it's a success. Obviously Dylans wanted the site on Conwy quay but it was rejected, I think the Washington is a great choice of venue.

Primark, Dylans, Providero... Llandundo really booming atm.
Dylans buying the Washington is great news, as Mr Fus was obviously never going to happen. I know Dylans will do a fantastic job of renovating the building and providing Llandudno with a few more quality eateries.  ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2016, 09:42:06 am
Do we agree with the owners comments? I'm not sure that I do....


Llandudno at fast food 'saturation' point says restaurant owner forced to close for Christmas

BY OWEN HUGHES 17:26, 15 NOV 2016UPDATED17:26, 15 NOV 2016 BUSINESS

The owners of a restaurant and cafe in Llandudno say they have been forced to close for winter due to the town being “saturated” with cafes and fast food places.

Cindy and Ibrahim Atay have successfully run the Mediterranean restaurant for 24 years and the next door Salt and Pepper cafe for three years.

But they have closed up until next February with the initial sign on the door at Salt & Pepper blaming the opening of too many eating places dishing out “fast food, frozen food, and ready prepped meals”.

The sign added that a number of eating places have already gone bankrupt because of these places and they did not want to join them.

They said that for a business that makes everything fresh it is getting hard to compete outside of the main tourism season.

This was first time they had actually chosen to close for winter with the only previous occasion due to a serious illness.

Speaking to the Daily Post, Cindy said: “We had to make this hard decision because we can’t keep paying staff through winter when we can’t get enough people in to pay their wages.

“In the past we could last the winter but so many places have been allowed to open in the town in recent years that the market is saturated.

“There are now far too many eating places in Llandudno for a town of this size.

“It is okay in the summer when there are lots of tourists around but not this time of year.

“People want to try all these new places so this means less people to come here and because we prep everything from fresh it can mean a lot of food waste if we don’t get as many customers as we expect.

"A lot of these places use frozen food that is ready prepped so there is not the same waste.”

Cindy says that Trip Advisor now shows more than 140 eating places in the Llandudno area, compared to around 70 three years ago.

She added: “We are not happy with the council for allowing so many eating places to open in the town, it will just put other people out of business.

“This town is at saturation point, there are only so many eating places a town needs.”

She added: “We are disappointed for the staff but if we don’t take this hard decision then we could be the next ones going bust, which would be no good for anyone.

“We had to close the previous winter due to Ibrahim being ill but this time we just decided it was best for the business.”

Conwy council have been asked to comment.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-fast-food-saturation-point-12180656 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-fast-food-saturation-point-12180656)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 16, 2016, 11:26:14 am
Saturation point? Maybe.
But there aren't enough 'quality' places to eat.
My last visit to Mediterranean was about 6 out of 10,  so freshly cooked it maybe, but still doesn't reach the 'quality' bracket.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2016, 11:48:48 am
As much as I sympathise with the towns established eateries, it is there responability to keep up to date with trends, it will be survival of the best business minds.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 16, 2016, 12:08:30 pm
Saturation point? Maybe.
But there aren't enough 'quality' places to eat.
My last visit to Mediterranean was about 6 out of 10,  so freshly cooked it maybe, but still doesn't reach the 'quality' bracket.

I totally agree, there are no 'quality' venues in Llandudno. Everything appears to be down to a price. Locally, we have eaten at Taly Cafin, (very good) Hayloft, (very poor for the price) Pen y Bryn (it's just good pub grub) and the Jai Ho (excellent) recently, and several places in Manchester and Liverpool, but we don't venture into Llandudno. We've found the Seahorse (that get's good reviews on here) to be mediocre and variable. and we are not tempted to try them again. Incidentally, we do think that the coffee shop at Waterstones does the best coffee in town.

Just a thought, do any of the hotels provide a really good quality dining experience that we don't know about? 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 16, 2016, 12:59:18 pm
Saturation point? Maybe.
But there aren't enough 'quality' places to eat.
My last visit to Mediterranean was about 6 out of 10,  so freshly cooked it maybe, but still doesn't reach the 'quality' bracket.

I totally agree, there are no 'quality' venues in Llandudno. Everything appears to be down to a price. Locally, we have eaten at Taly Cafin, (very good) Hayloft, (very poor for the price) Pen y Bryn (it's just good pub grub) and the Jai Ho (excellent) recently, and several places in Manchester and Liverpool, but we don't venture into Llandudno. We've found the Seahorse (that get's good reviews on here) to be mediocre and variable. and we are not tempted to try them again. Incidentally, we do think that the coffee shop at Waterstones does the best coffee in town.

Just a thought, do any of the hotels provide a really good quality dining experience that we don't know about?

The food in The Dunoon is amazing....
But I'm not sure if it open to non residents.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 16, 2016, 01:30:35 pm
They are open to non-residents and have a large A board advertising the fact outside. I imagine that it would be a good plan to ring and enquire first as they do a lot of evening events for the Rotary and similar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 16, 2016, 01:56:06 pm
Bosun, have you tried the Signatures Restaurant on the Conwy Morfa?      I've always found the atmosphere and meals excellent and there are also discount offers if you are a member
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 16, 2016, 06:33:39 pm
They are open to non-residents and have a large A board advertising the fact outside. I imagine that it would be a good plan to ring and enquire first as they do a lot of evening events for the Rotary and similar.

Thanks Nem!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 16, 2016, 09:42:14 pm
My pleasure !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 18, 2016, 09:49:23 am
Bosun, have you tried the Signatures Restaurant on the Conwy Morfa?      I've always found the atmosphere and meals excellent and there are also discount offers if you are a member

Sorry Hugo for not replying sooner, we've been away for a day or so. No, we've not tried Signatures but will do so on your recommendation. We actually ate at a Thwaite's pub, the Millstone at Mellor in Lancashire. Although a 'chain' pub, the food was superb, some brilliant takes on standard dishes. I spoke to the head chef and he said that all the dishes were cooked from the basics and nothing was brought in pre-prepared. The prices were about average for good quality pub-grub so there doesn't seem to be a large cost implication, just the requirement for an application of skill and commitment, which certain premises locally could certainly benefit from.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2016, 01:39:52 pm
I hope that you can give the Signatures a try as I don't think that you'll be disappointed with the place or the quality of the food.  Please let us know what you think of the place if you do go there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 18, 2016, 04:53:07 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Lunch today for Hollins, gilthead bream with saffron orzo, (which I found out today is rice shaped pasta, a new one for me) pancetta, braised kale and fennel.

Best of all a view of the raging waves and the changing light over at Rhos.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2016, 06:26:56 pm
You're lucky to have the best of both worlds Hollins, I had the view, but had to make do with a bowl of soup for lunch.    :(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 18, 2016, 06:35:44 pm
Oh no, you are making me feel bad now. I had soup as well!     $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2016, 07:38:55 pm
That's cheered me up no end Hollins.      &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 21, 2016, 08:42:57 am
Upon hearing Bosun's comments that he had found the Seahorse to be 'mediocre', we had no choice but to visit on Friday evening. Fortunately, it turned out that both the food and wine were still great.  clappinghappy

We also tried the Sunday Roast at the Albert on, er, Sunday.  :roll:  At £11.75, it was a tiny bit overpriced, in my view, but it certainly went down a treat. The Albert was absolutely packed to the gunnels due to the Christmas Market but we were served quickly and efficiently.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 21, 2016, 10:15:29 am
DaveR, if you are going to quote me you might at least quote in full; I actually wrote 'We've found the Seahorse (that get's good reviews on here) to be mediocre and variable', acknowledging that it does get appreciative recommendations on the forum. My experience of the Seahorse has been one superb meal, and several mediocre, the last time we were practically force fed and rushed through the meal, they obviously wanted the table for another sitting. That was not a particularly pleasant experience. However, I'm glad that my post 'gave you no choice but to visit' and that you enjoyed it.

The TTF is an excellent tool to recommend and gather support for worthwhile venues, and similarly, advise on those that fall below expectations. However, these are personal experiences and subjective, not definitive statements. That is, apart from whether or not there is a wood fired oven......

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 21, 2016, 10:33:12 am
May I add that if you thought that the Albert's Sunday Roast was 'at £11.75 a tiny bit overpriced', but you had good and efficient service, try The Hayloft at Bodnant Gardens. £16.00 for a Sunday Roast (just the main course) the quality of a factory canteen and with awful service.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 21, 2016, 11:51:53 am
I've not yet tried it myself, but I am being urged by many I know to go to Bodafon Farm for Sunday lunch.
The various members of the Llandudno Sunday club tell me that they try everywhere in the local area, but feel drawn back to Bofafon as it is unbeatable in terms of quality and value for money.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 21, 2016, 03:19:17 pm
I've not yet tried it myself, but I am being urged by many I know to go to Bodafon Farm for Sunday lunch.
The various members of the Llandudno Sunday club tell me that they try everywhere in the local area, but feel drawn back to Bofafon as it is unbeatable in terms of quality and value for money.

I assume this is some kind of Morrissey fan club? If so where do I sign up  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 21, 2016, 03:57:25 pm
Food at the Albert is generally first rate, perhaps a touch pricey for pub grub but I pay it happily considering how consistent the food is. Service is generally good too although I do wish they had table service for food, a minor gripe.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Daihardwelshman on November 21, 2016, 04:11:42 pm
A place which is very good for sunday lunch or evening meal is The Bee inn, Eglwysbach. I know it is a bit further out but worth going
instead of the Hayloft!!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Daihardwelshman on November 21, 2016, 04:28:55 pm

Looks like there is another coffee shop heading for Llandudno :o :o :o :o


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/easycoffee-chain-cup-coffee-costs-12208227#comments-section (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/easycoffee-chain-cup-coffee-costs-12208227#comments-section)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on November 21, 2016, 04:56:37 pm
Great news.
Never paid more than £1 for a cup of coffee in my life. How people have been conned over the past few years for a cup of hot water is beyond me.
There are plenty of mugs around, not only in coffee shops.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on November 21, 2016, 05:06:34 pm
I wonder if Mr Ryanair will enter the market with his "Irish Coffees".
Probably there will be no tables in the cafe so that he can cram a few extra customers in, or pay £1 for a cup or bring your own cup.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 21, 2016, 06:08:30 pm
Great news.
Never paid more than £1 for a cup of coffee in my life. How people have been conned over the past few years for a cup of hot water is beyond me.
There are plenty of mugs around, not only in coffee shops.

I've never paid LESS than a quid!
The Latte and Americano in Cafe Nero are top notch, and HUGE for £2.75p, (or whatever it is)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 21, 2016, 06:31:31 pm
What's that Oscar Wilde quotation?

The cost of everything, and the value of nothing ! :twoface:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 22, 2016, 10:11:45 am
Great news.
Never paid more than £1 for a cup of coffee in my life. How people have been conned over the past few years for a cup of hot water is beyond me.
There are plenty of mugs around, not only in coffee shops.

How interesting. And where do you not pay more than £1 for a cup of coffee? Perhaps you would like to read the link as to the costs of the overheads of running a café, it may enlighten you, it certainly did me.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12099760/TripAdvisor-York-Bennetts-cafe-owner-leaves-brilliant-response-to-one-star-review.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12099760/TripAdvisor-York-Bennetts-cafe-owner-leaves-brilliant-response-to-one-star-review.html)

Mrs B and I enjoy a coffee and we try and avoid the 'chains' and use independent coffee shops. It's not just the coffee, but the ambience as well that counts, it's a nice experience when the two coincide and I can understand the popularity of the 'coffee culture'.

However, I do wonder what that experience is like for less than a £1.00......!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 22, 2016, 10:49:45 am
I agree there Bosun, having refused to drink more than one cup of coffee which we have unfortunately bought, we now, if going out for the day always have a flask of the stuff in the car. There are quite a few places where the coffee is decent, but having been served something resembling dish water we are wary ! Quite happy to buy coffee, if it is coffee, but so much of the stuff just isn't.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2016, 11:26:46 am
Get round to Time Bar in Conwy, because apart from amazing food, they do a cafetière for £2.50.
You get about 3 cups out of it, and it's the best quality coffee I've ever had.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 22, 2016, 12:22:41 pm
I'm with Mull never paid for a cup of coffee anytime ever. I can drink as many coffees as I want all day at work for free that's more than enough. I don't understand coffee shops at all. I couldn't think of anything worse than sitting in a vapid room full of tourists and shoppers drinking a 3 quid cup of pretentious warm water. I hope this pound coffee shops puts all the other ones out of business so they can build something decent instead..... Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2016, 12:34:36 pm
B2R, its freeloading like that, and penny pinching such as you and Mull advocate, that will keep the economy firmly bumping along the bottom, and no wealth being created for those young people trying to forge a career or a business. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 22, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
I'm with B2R on this. And, it's much more sensible to do as he does at this time of year, each evening, take a few cans of low-cost lager down to the park or sit on a seafront bench and drink them rather than having to pay silly prices to sit in a warm pub having to chat to people and listen to inane conversations....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2016, 02:10:32 pm
Dylans are hoping to open the Washington in May 2017 - I think that may be a tough deadline to meet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 22, 2016, 03:49:53 pm
I'm with B2R on this. And, it's much more sensible to do as he does at this time of year, each evening, take a few cans of low-cost lager down to the park or sit on a seafront bench and drink them rather than having to pay silly prices to sit in a warm pub having to chat to people and listen to inane conversations....

Now beer is something worth paying for and so is a good pub. With a separate beer tax at about 54p per pint it's perfectly understandable that it costs a lot more than it does in supermarkets. Coffee on the other hand is not comparable. Pubs have always been traditional hubs for socialising and important in communities. Coffee shops are not and never will be.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 22, 2016, 04:19:52 pm
I'm with B2R on this. And, it's much more sensible to do as he does at this time of year, each evening, take a few cans of low-cost lager down to the park or sit on a seafront bench and drink them rather than having to pay silly prices to sit in a warm pub having to chat to people and listen to inane conversations....

Now beer is something worth paying for and so is a good pub. With a separate beer tax at about 54p per pint it's perfectly understandable that it costs a lot more than it does in supermarkets. Coffee on the other hand is not comparable. Pubs have always been traditional hubs for socialising and important in communities. Coffee shops are not and never will be.

Wrong. Coffee shops have been an important part in many civilisations histories and continue to be so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeehouse
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 22, 2016, 04:32:20 pm
In America perhaps. Certainly not in the UK, what have coffee shops contributed to British society and culture? Pubs have given us or have contributed to countless genres of music, sport, television, comedy, food, literature. The list is endless. Coffee shops, Bob Dylan in the 50s and Friends (both American)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 22, 2016, 05:12:54 pm
B2R, if you had bothered to read the link you might learnt that coffee houses are an important part of British history. Since the 1600's, coffee houses have been seats of learning and business. The London Stock Exchange started in a coffee house, as did the Lloyds Shipping Register, and the auction houses Sotherby's and Christies.

And all rather before any American influence..... The list is endless, but just one example:

In 18th century, Dublin coffeehouses functioned as early reading centers and the emergence of circulation and subscription libraries which provided greater print access for the public. Coffeehouses were a culture symbol where different worlds came together to discuss topics of the newspapers and pamphlets. Most coffeehouses during the Eighteenth Century were equipped with their own printing presses or resided by book shops which most would later merge with for better business. (From Wikipedia)

However, if you require the history of pubs, I suggest you read Pete Brown's excellent books.




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2016, 05:25:25 pm
The figures speak for themselves, the decline in pub numbers has been mirrored by the rise in coffee shops. People prefer them, simple as that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on November 22, 2016, 05:34:33 pm
When I was a lad in Walton Liverpool, before 1960, there was a temperance bar by Walton Church (CofE) that was every bit as busy as the local pubs. I can't remember any coffee shops or tea shops though. Although, there seemed to be a pub every few yards just like Conwy used to be. The temperance bar served draught drinks like dandelion and burdock. I also remember hot Vimto but I can't remember if coffee or tea were served.

My question is: did the Cocoa House in Llandudno serve the same function? Was it Llandudno's forerunner to coffee shops?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 22, 2016, 06:27:20 pm
When I was a teenager in West Yorks, around that time, there were plenty of coffee 'bars' as they were called. We used to hang out for a whole evening, often only buying one coffee. I don't remember ever being asked to buy another, or move on ! Mind you, most of them would have either the 'elf and safety' or food police onto them these days !.We probably spent more money in the juke box and on the pin-tables than we did on coffee.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2016, 08:09:28 pm
When I was a lad in Walton Liverpool, before 1960, there was a temperance bar by Walton Church (CofE) that was every bit as busy as the local pubs. I can't remember any coffee shops or tea shops though. Although, there seemed to be a pub every few yards just like Conwy used to be. The temperance bar served draught drinks like dandelion and burdock. I also remember hot Vimto but I can't remember if coffee or tea were served.

My question is: did the Cocoa House in Llandudno serve the same function? Was it Llandudno's forerunner to coffee shops?

Liverpool city centre was full of coffee shops, the Kardomah chain was particularly popular. The aroma of freshly ground coffee as you walked past them was irresistible.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on November 22, 2016, 09:00:14 pm
Agree about the Liverpool and Southport Coffee shops in the 1960s but in them days we were more interested in the opposite sex.
Happy days.
Now would rather be way up a mountain with a flask of coffee , enjoying the view in peace and quiet. Nice to sit there and enjoy the view, especially with someone close. Would I be sitting next to someone nice in Mostyn Street at £2/£3 pound a cup.
Getting a Grumpy old man now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2016, 10:42:50 pm
Mull and BTR    there is some good news for both of you

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/easycoffee-chain-cup-coffee-costs-12208227 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/easycoffee-chain-cup-coffee-costs-12208227)

The bad news is that it's in Wrexham         


Mull,   I'm afraid that you're going to have to put some money in your sporran when you come here in January.      ;D


 $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on November 23, 2016, 07:29:29 am
Is there one of these in the three towns?

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g60859-d805270-r22115084-Escape_Java_Joint-Madison_Wisconsin.html (https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g60859-d805270-r22115084-Escape_Java_Joint-Madison_Wisconsin.html)

The contributor must qualify for world GOM or GOW competition (Grumpy old).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 23, 2016, 09:08:26 am
I stopped at 'the jazz is so loud' that's enough for me, must surely be a place out of the deepest depths of hell.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 23, 2016, 09:55:01 am
Correlation does not equal causation. Just because the decline of pubs was matched by rise of coffee shops doesn't mean it was caused by it.

Coffee is an American drink but it's obviously more popular than ever in the UK.

Personally I think Llandudno and Conwy have plenty of coffee shops (and some duff ones to boot). That said, a £1 a cup coffee shop should drive down prices and will only kill of the poor/unsuccessful ones.

People say Wetherspoons kills off pubs but it just gets rid of bad ones, I think. Look at how Cottage Loaf has thrived despite the massive Wethers next door.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on November 23, 2016, 10:10:46 am
History of coffee drinking http://www.ncausa.org/About-Coffee/History-of-Coffee (http://www.ncausa.org/About-Coffee/History-of-Coffee)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 23, 2016, 10:58:42 am
Thanks PhilMick; where the fallacy of coffee being 'an American drink' comes from I've no idea. Perhaps people think it's made by Coca Cola?   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on November 23, 2016, 11:30:53 am
Bring back CAMP coffee I say, with condensed milk.       :)


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on November 23, 2016, 11:35:20 am
Was camp coffee made with chickory?

How did that happen?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on November 23, 2016, 11:38:16 am
Was it made in Scotland by any chance:  Z**

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Coffee

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 23, 2016, 12:02:55 pm
Away from coffee debating... Good write up here of interview with chef Bryn Williams about Porth Eirias http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chef-bryn-williams-says-porth-12214594 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chef-bryn-williams-says-porth-12214594)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 23, 2016, 08:06:19 pm
Bring back CAMP coffee I say, with condensed milk.       :)

OMG ! :puke2:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mull on November 23, 2016, 10:54:48 pm
Remember we used to get it when I was on courses at Liverpool Collage of Commerce in early 1960s.

Tasted good then. Thought i was in love then and I suppose that was more important at that time. :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: bigbadhenry on November 24, 2016, 09:36:58 am
Remember we used to get it when I was on courses at Liverpool Collage of Commerce in early 1960s.

Tasted good then. Thought i was in love then and I suppose that was more important at that time. :laugh:


Gawd awful stuff !!!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 24, 2016, 11:43:59 am
More like a laxative than anything else ! WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 24, 2016, 12:38:59 pm
Growing up in a small Staffordshire village in the late 1950's and 1960's, it was all my parents could afford and I grew up thinking that Camp was 'coffee'. My parents used to make it with (sterilised) milk. I don't even know if you can get sterilised milk anymore....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: PhilMick on November 24, 2016, 01:04:14 pm
Sterilised milk and Camp coffee :P

Nearly as revolting as free school milk that had been on a hot radiator until mid morning on a icy  &shake& day.  &shake&

PS You can see steri on many a step in the potteries
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Big Alan on November 24, 2016, 02:40:22 pm
Steri milk on your cornflakes, Scouse $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on November 24, 2016, 03:37:19 pm
I had a lovely Birthday meal with eight friends, in the Kings Head, last night. Every one of us had a really enjoyable food and it was clean plates all round.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 24, 2016, 04:33:29 pm
I had a lovely Birthday meal with eight friends, in the Kings Head, last night. Every one of us had a really enjoyable food and it was clean plates all round.  ZXZ

A belated Happy Birthday to you, glad you had a good time.......  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 27, 2016, 04:22:17 pm
My wife and her friend had a nice lunch at the Toad the other day but she said that parking nearby was a problem.   Luckily they found a space or otherwise would have had to drive on to somewhere else to have something to eat.    The work on the Promenade and the new one way system has certainly had an adverse effect on their trade and I feel sorry for the business as they had a similar problem a few years ago when building work was going on all around them.
The Skip on the other hand has many parking spaces and is only slightly inconvenienced by the promenade being closed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 30, 2016, 10:24:26 am
Dylan's restaurant chain offer sneak glimpse inside planned Llandudno restaurant.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-restaurant-chain-offer-sneak-12233876 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-restaurant-chain-offer-sneak-12233876)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 10, 2016, 08:20:23 pm
A post I saw on Facebook, regarding the new £1 coffee shop....  brilliantly sarcastic, (I hope??)

'More coffee shops is exactly what Llandudno needs...and charity shops...and pound shops.

What about a charity shop where every item is £1 and you can buy coffee, that's what's needed, lots of those'
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 13, 2016, 02:43:41 pm
Noticed yesterday that a Greek Taverna seems to have sprung from nowhere above Mango and Bamboo. Think it used to be some kind of Forces Club, but I can't think which.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on December 13, 2016, 02:46:56 pm
Royal Navy  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 13, 2016, 05:39:50 pm
It's been Jack's Club and various other things in recent years.
I was chatting in broken English to the guy they have brought over from Greece to be the chef.
The actual owner has talked about opening such a place as long as I've known him (local taxi driver), but not he seems to have gone and done it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on December 13, 2016, 06:24:01 pm
Noticed yesterday that a Greek Taverna seems to have sprung from nowhere above Mango and Bamboo. Think it used to be some kind of Forces Club, but I can't think which.

Thanks Jack.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on December 13, 2016, 07:29:50 pm
I was chatting in broken English to the guy they have brought over from Greece to be the chef.

Thought you'd started taking those English lessons at the college?  WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 15, 2016, 12:10:12 pm
Where are you from..................I am from Timor Leste ?            Z**

Booze calculator: What's your drinking nationality?
How does your drinking measure up to the average in countries around the world? Find out below if you are similar to a boozy Belarusian or a teetotal Kuwaiti.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30500372 (http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30500372)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 16, 2017, 01:56:32 pm
Heres one for DaveR.....

Owners of Llandudno's The Seahorse restaurant in sale U-turn after demand from customers.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/owners-llandudnos-seahorse-restaurant-sale-12460247 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/owners-llandudnos-seahorse-restaurant-sale-12460247)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 16, 2017, 02:06:01 pm
Heres one for DaveR.....

Owners of Llandudno's The Seahorse restaurant in sale U-turn after demand from customers.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/owners-llandudnos-seahorse-restaurant-sale-12460247 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/owners-llandudnos-seahorse-restaurant-sale-12460247)
Great news, I'm thrilled to hear this.  $good$  $good$  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on January 23, 2017, 07:54:57 am
Johnny Dough's have had to remove the sign from the front of the business. No real surprise as he didn't get prior planning permission. Hopefully Conwy/Mostyn see sense and allow it.

https://www.facebook.com/jdoughspizzas/photos/pb.1523263131221364.-2207520000.1485158067./1824281734452834/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/jdoughspizzas/photos/pb.1523263131221364.-2207520000.1485158067./1824281734452834/?type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 23, 2017, 09:03:10 am
You can live in hope, Tom, but the words 'sense' and Conwy rarely seem to appear in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on January 23, 2017, 10:51:37 am
Hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 23, 2017, 07:13:24 pm
Business opportunity

https://pococoffee.co.uk/franchises/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2017, 09:21:12 am
Business opportunity

https://pococoffee.co.uk/franchises/
The Llandudno one always seems quite quiet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 24, 2017, 08:30:37 pm
Another coffee shop has now opened in Upper Mostyn Street, where Motor Mania was.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 24, 2017, 09:36:09 pm
Providero?

Is it next to Fountains?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 25, 2017, 10:13:55 am
Providero opened yesterday, best of luck to them with their new venture. $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on January 25, 2017, 05:49:41 pm
I took my mum for lunch to the skip again today.
I have to say that I am repeating what I eat there as the menu is quite short and it doesn't change as often as I would like.
I spoke to the waitress about this last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and she said it was a common complaint from locals.
Bryn Williams was there today and at the end of my meal he came out of the kitchen and I took my chance to ask him if he wanted some feedback which was that local regular customers were desperate for more changes in the menu.
He told me that it had last changed in mid November and it was going to change again mid February.
He said he would only cook with seasonal produce and that in these months the choices were limited.
At no time during the conversation did I feel that he agreed or approved of anything I said. It was much more the case that he knew what was best for me and he was very defensive throughout.
Quite a surprising reaction I thought considering the uphill struggle they have had to get locals on their side.
He did say that a loyalty card was to be introduced shortly.
Bring on Dylan's, I think some healthy competition will help.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 25, 2017, 06:31:39 pm
H. Maybe he is a better chef, than a people person, but not a good situation when one of his best clients feels let down, look on the bright side, it could have been Gordon Ramsey.......  ;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on January 26, 2017, 08:31:15 am
I keep meaning to go back to the Skip, only been twice, first time excellent, second time so-so. Not sure Dylan's is the answer BUT you will get a varied menu (the menu in Menai Bridge is bloody massive)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2017, 11:23:37 am
Providero opened yesterday, best of luck to them with their new venture. $good$
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/llandudno-providero-opens-after-30000-12509381 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/llandudno-providero-opens-after-30000-12509381)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on January 26, 2017, 02:04:20 pm
Hollins, Thanks for mentioning the lack of choice at the Skip to Bryn, his reply is disappointing but not unexpected. I don't think that most people who open Bistro,s in the UK actually know what Bistro means. I have spent quite a lot of time in France, Bistro is a small restaurant mainly serving dishes of the day, usually cheap meat and fish stews at very low cost. So the only part of bryns that relates to a Bistro is the small Menu! Roll on May, at Dillon's.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on January 26, 2017, 02:24:57 pm
I don't mind places with a small menu. In fact I am always suspicious of places with a huge menu.
The point I was trying to make to him was that it would be nice to be able to choose something different over the three month seasonal period if like me you visit regularly. The food is good in my view, the portions are small on some dishes but I prefer that.
However the plaice, bream, risotto, fish fingers and smoked haddock, my usual choices, are wearing a bit thin!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2017, 03:12:24 pm
Hollins, Thanks for mentioning the lack of choice at the Skip to Bryn, his reply is disappointing but not unexpected. I don't think that most people who open Bistro,s in the UK actually know what Bistro means. I have spent quite a lot of time in France, Bistro is a small restaurant mainly serving dishes of the day, usually cheap meat and fish stews at very low cost. So the only part of bryns that relates to a Bistro is the small Menu! Roll on May, at Dillon's.

Yes Neil, most of the Bistros in France have an ever changing menu, at less than exorbitant prices!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 26, 2017, 03:27:10 pm
I don't mind places with a small menu. In fact I am always suspicious of places with a huge menu.
The point I was trying to make to him was that it would be nice to be able to choose something different over the three month seasonal period if like me you visit regularly. The food is good in my view, the portions are small on some dishes but I prefer that.
However the plaice, bream, risotto, fish fingers and smoked haddock, my usual choices, are wearing a bit thin!

Might be time to give Signatures in Conwy a go Hollins.    It might not have the views of Bryn's but the food is very good and the atmosphere and service are very good too.
Have a look at the menu online and see if there is anything that appeals to you and your Mum.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on January 26, 2017, 05:06:55 pm
Good thinking Hugo, thanks. Might get Mr H to treat us!   ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 26, 2017, 07:58:00 pm
If you become a member of Signatures you do get some special offers on your meals like 10 or 20 per cent off.    It's easy to do and both Mrs H and I are members.      $good$
Have a look at their menus on the website and see if anything takes your fancy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on January 26, 2017, 08:23:09 pm
Booked for tomorrow. Watch this space!   ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 26, 2017, 10:42:33 pm
Love the food in signatures also would recommend the new tal y cafn another very good local chef .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2017, 09:19:23 am
I haven't been there since I saw you there in December Norman, but I can't wait to go back soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2017, 03:19:55 pm
Booked for tomorrow. Watch this space!   ;D


I'm looking forward to hearing the feedback from our very own Globetrotting Gourmet.      $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on January 27, 2017, 05:20:26 pm
Ha!
She's back and thank you all who gave me recommendations for Signatures.
I must admit to being rather sceptical of the place mainly because of it's location in a caravan park and I thought it sounded a bit pretentious but I am happy to say that I was proved 100% wrong.
I knew I could trust my fellow forum members as I have had some great tips about the area over many years now.
It all started very well, the acid test, a request for a medium sherry was answered with, "Yes, we have an amontillado." Oh joy!
The service throughout was exemplary from an Italian, a Polish and Mexican waiters.
The food was freshly cooked and served piping hot on hot plates.
We had the lunch of the day menu which we thought was excellent value.
The soup was roast root vegetable and was delicious. I have posted a photo of the other dishes, all very good and beautifully presented.
The only slight snag was being so close to the sea and not being able to see it but without the sand dunes protecting it I guess it wouldn't still be there.
So thanks again forum members!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on January 27, 2017, 06:45:59 pm
My only issue with the place is that it can be noisy. A lot of straight walls and floors, and little in the way of curves or soft furnishings. Fine when it's quiet, but if there's a party in it can become rather loud. But the best chips anywhere :-)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2017, 07:06:04 pm
I'm pleased that you enjoyed your experience there Hollins.  It might be a Caravan Park but it's a bit special and I believe that the Spa there is very good too.
I've found the staff there very good and little Carlos was extremely helpful when I had my birthday lunch there last year.
I could see that my favourite starter, the black pudding was on the menu, hope that it's still on when I go next.     $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 05, 2017, 11:57:27 am
Llandudno's Johnny Dough's pizza restaurant wants to open branches in THREE more towns.

Now owner Morgan Austin wants to increase the size of the site in Llandudno and open new locations in Conwy,
An application has already been submitted to increase the size of the Llandudno site
the plan for Conwy would be for a takeaway site.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/llandudnos-johnny-doughs-pizza-restaurant-12554905 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/llandudnos-johnny-doughs-pizza-restaurant-12554905)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 05, 2017, 10:08:39 pm
Love the food in signatures also would recommend the new tal y cafn another very good local chef .


Thank you Norman for your recommendation for Tal-y-Cafn.
We went along there for lunch today having prebooked. It isn't really a fair test to go for a Sunday lunch and especially as the place was packed when we arrived at 2pm.
I had the roast beef and Mr H the lamb. We both thought the meat was excellent quality (Edwards of Conwy) but the vegetables were rather tired, a symptom of the mass catering Sunday lunch probably.
Unfortunately we were seated in a smallish area upstairs which wasn't as pleasant as the downstairs rooms which were attractively decorated.
It looked as though a lot of money had been spent on the building and the decor.
There are loads of chairs and tables on the terrace outside which I imagine will be very pleasant in warmer weather. By the time we left the place was empty. I think everyone had gone to watch the rugby.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 06, 2017, 08:58:20 am
Love the food in signatures also would recommend the new tal y cafn another very good local chef .


Thank you Norman for your recommendation for Tal-y-Cafn.
We went along there for lunch today having prebooked. It isn't really a fair test to go for a Sunday lunch and especially as the place was packed when we arrived at 2pm.
I had the roast beef and Mr H the lamb. We both thought the meat was excellent quality (Edwards of Conwy) but the vegetables were rather tired, a symptom of the mass catering Sunday lunch probably.
Unfortunately we were seated in a smallish area upstairs which wasn't as pleasant as the downstairs rooms which were attractively decorated.
It looked as though a lot of money had been spent on the building and the decor.
There are loads of chairs and tables on the terrace outside which I imagine will be very pleasant in warmer weather. By the time we left the place was empty. I think everyone had gone to watch the rugby.

That food doesn't look up to your usual standard Hollins although by the look of it the Yorkshire ( odd shape !) did look home made. What was the odd looking thing next to the potatoes please?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 06, 2017, 09:07:43 am
Parsnip!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on February 07, 2017, 08:39:32 am
I bloody love parsnips. For Sunday lunch my favourite is probably the Bee Inn in Eglwysbach - although I think every roast dinner should come with a yorkshire pud, not just beef.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 07, 2017, 09:17:18 am
Mr H agrees with you about the yorkshire pudding. He had the lamb but no yorkshire so I had to give him some of mine!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 07, 2017, 09:28:31 am
I think the debate on Yorkshires depends on family tradition. Nowadays, the trend seems to be to serve them with every roast meat and with the meat. When I was a kid they or it and it was usually a huge thing, cut into portions, was served before the meal, complete with gravy to help fill people up before the meat, probably as there wasn't as much, it being just after the 2nd World War. Any Yorkshire left over at my parents, my Grandma used to take it home and have it warmed up with jam on it !!! She lived to be well over 90 and her diet, to todays standards, was full of fat and sugar.

As for parsnips, I can take or leave them, I only asked because it seemed such a pale affair :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 12, 2017, 12:41:43 pm
Rhos-on-Sea's Cayley Arms pub set for major revamp
The seafront tavern would be re-branded the Cayley Flyer if Conwy council gives the plans the green light.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhos-seas-cayley-arms-pub-12580078 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/rhos-seas-cayley-arms-pub-12580078)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 12, 2017, 04:48:55 pm
Looking for somewhere to go for lunch tomorrow (Monday) with mum and Mr H in the area. There are a lot of places closed on a Monday and I won't go back to the skip until the menu changes. Still the same when I looked a few minutes ago.
Needs to be somewhere with parking not too far away.
I was thinking about the Toad but is that on the stretch that is closed to traffic at the moment?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 12, 2017, 05:04:12 pm
That stretch isn't closed Hollins but it is one way and parking can be quite difficult and a bit steep on the side streets.   Also there are steep steps leading in to the building.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on February 12, 2017, 09:42:13 pm
My wife and I often lunch in Osbourne House Hotel Llandudno, you might be on your own on a Monday, but it has a lovely ambiance and the foods quite good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 12, 2017, 10:05:59 pm
Thanks Neil, It was empty last time we went but yes the food was good and the decor is unusual to say the least!


Thanks Hugo, I was a bit worried about the steps so I think I will leave it until another time. Don't want mum falling again!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 13, 2017, 11:37:46 am
Looking for somewhere to go for lunch tomorrow (Monday) with mum and Mr H in the area. There are a lot of places closed on a Monday and I won't go back to the skip until the menu changes. Still the same when I looked a few minutes ago.
Needs to be somewhere with parking not too far away.
I was thinking about the Toad but is that on the stretch that is closed to traffic at the moment?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/north-wales-chef-bryn-williams-12594904 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/north-wales-chef-bryn-williams-12594904)

Don't think the menu will be on his mind at the moment. :roll:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2017, 11:55:51 am
No new menu coming
and old pier going!

What on earth will Hollins do?        :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 13, 2017, 12:25:43 pm
We have decided to go and try Pen-y-Bryn. Still got a Bryn in there!
Not been before what do we think forum???
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on February 13, 2017, 02:00:42 pm
We gave up after three small faults on three consecutive occasions. Good luck!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 13, 2017, 02:03:13 pm
Oh dear! On route , will let you know!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on February 13, 2017, 05:33:47 pm
We are back, all was well apart from a slightly dry risotto.
The service was friendly and we liked the spacious inside and thought it was nicely decorated.
The distant sea views were also enjoyed from one of the many windows. One room off to the side had a log fire burning making it look welcoming.
I particularly like a place that serves food all day which suits my preferred eating time of a late lunch.

However the best bit of the afternoon came as we were driving away from the pub. I accosted a young man and his dog in the hope that it was Hugo and it was!
Lovely to finally meet you Hugo.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2017, 06:20:50 pm
It was my pleasure Hollins and thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to speak to me.   It was nice to put a face to a name and to meet your Mother and husband.  It was good to see them looking so well after the accidents that they both have had.
I'm pleased that you all enjoyed your food and the experience of the Pen Y Bryn.      $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 20, 2017, 01:27:50 pm
Dylan's release Washington Hotel cocktail lounge CGI image
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-release-washington-hotel-cocktail-12628883 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-release-washington-hotel-cocktail-12628883)

The company is on track to open the new restaurant in the seaside town in May.
They have received £190,000 from the Welsh Government through the Tourism Investment Support fund. http://gov.wales/topics/culture-tourism-sport/tourism/tourism-investment-support-scheme/?lang=en (http://gov.wales/topics/culture-tourism-sport/tourism/tourism-investment-support-scheme/?lang=en)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2017, 02:14:01 pm
Will be good to have another quality addition to the Llandudno eating/drinking scene.

Lot of work going on at the Links Hotel, I see. They're ripping it apart inside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on February 20, 2017, 02:51:12 pm
I got takeaway from Tops last night. Sadly, they got half the order wrong (no king prawn chop suey for us).

The food we asked for was great, the beef dish which was swapped in for the king prawn one... less so.

I've still not tried Nikki Yips, might do that next time I fancy chinese. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 20, 2017, 04:31:18 pm
DaveR, I walked past the Links this afternoon.

There is an artist's impression of the improvements outside and on the corner by the roundabout.

Between the Links and Dylan's, in my opinion, CyD will fast become a much sought after area to buy a property with house prices expected to rise a least 10% in 2017.

Watch this space.  D)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 20, 2017, 04:42:26 pm
I got takeaway from Tops last night. Sadly, they got half the order wrong (no king prawn chop suey for us).

The food we asked for was great, the beef dish which was swapped in for the king prawn one... less so.

I've still not tried Nikki Yips, might do that next time I fancy chinese.

Only been once to Nikki Ips, everyone hyped it to high heaven, so we went with high expectations so we were disappointed.
People come from 30 miles away apparently, as it's such great quality.
I thought it was rubbish to be honest.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on February 25, 2017, 04:12:42 pm
This may be controversial, but the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool Arms had been in decline for sometime.  Once a delightful pub, it had become very a tatty and grubby establishment which often ran out of beer at busy periods. The George and Dragon was little better and desperately needs the refit that it's currently undergoing. The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally, and that the requirement is for well run clean pubs, not 'dives'. Let's hope that the LA re-opens with a refurbishment; it's a fantastic location with virtually a captive audience, and correctly run will undoubtedly be a very successful venture.

"The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally"

Two of those have only just opened! They don't show anything. I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Come back in a year and we'll see if they are still doing well. My guess is that in the winter they will be deserted.
Where as a 'dive' as you put it, will have a steady stream of local customers all year round. Just like the Malt loaf and mail coach do  that have been open years.

I have it on good authority (which normally means that it is a local rumour...) that the Albion and Bridge Inn Conwy consortium (and the Australian Bar, Port Madoc) are planning to take on another two pubs, location currently unknown, on the back of the success of the three current pubs they run. That's a pretty good success story that has shown that they have the a very successful business model. I don't think that it's a coincidence that since the Albion opened and it's success, every pub in Conwy has been re-vamped, tidied up or refurbished, including the Malt Loaf (soon-to-be Erskine Arms) which has reputedly had £750k spent on it. It's a really good news story for Conwy.

Unfortunately Conwy has yet to have a juggling shop......
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on February 27, 2017, 03:51:58 pm
This may be controversial, but the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool Arms had been in decline for sometime.  Once a delightful pub, it had become very a tatty and grubby establishment which often ran out of beer at busy periods. The George and Dragon was little better and desperately needs the refit that it's currently undergoing. The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally, and that the requirement is for well run clean pubs, not 'dives'. Let's hope that the LA re-opens with a refurbishment; it's a fantastic location with virtually a captive audience, and correctly run will undoubtedly be a very successful venture.

"The Albion, The Bank and The Bridge show that there is plenty of trade locally"

Two of those have only just opened! They don't show anything. I could open a juggling ball shop today if I wanted to, would that mean there was plenty of trade for juggling balls locally?

Come back in a year and we'll see if they are still doing well. My guess is that in the winter they will be deserted.
Where as a 'dive' as you put it, will have a steady stream of local customers all year round. Just like the Malt loaf and mail coach do  that have been open years.

I have it on good authority (which normally means that it is a local rumour...) that the Albion and Bridge Inn Conwy consortium (and the Australian Bar, Port Madoc) are planning to take on another two pubs, location currently unknown, on the back of the success of the three current pubs they run. That's a pretty good success story that has shown that they have the a very successful business model. I don't think that it's a coincidence that since the Albion opened and it's success, every pub in Conwy has been re-vamped, tidied up or refurbished, including the Malt Loaf (soon-to-be Erskine Arms) which has reputedly had £750k spent on it. It's a really good news story for Conwy.

Unfortunately Conwy has yet to have a juggling shop......

The Albion isn't comparable with the Bridge or the Bank as they don't do food.
Also every pub in Conwy hasn't been re-vamped. The Blue Bell and the Mail coach are exactly the same and as popular as ever. The Malt Loaf as you rightly say is being redone as an eatery so we'll see how well that bodes with the nearest two pubs doing exactly the same thing as well as competition from other restaurants.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on February 28, 2017, 03:24:08 pm
I really hope the consortium are looking at Llandudno, from a personal point of view. Having said that, I was in The Snowon on Sunday and was very impressed, will definitely have to return for a bevvy or two. Ashamed to have not been before.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on February 28, 2017, 03:53:54 pm
I really hope the consortium are looking at Llandudno, from a personal point of view. Having said that, I was in The Snowon on Sunday and was very impressed, will definitely have to return for a bevvy or two. Ashamed to have not been before.

The Snowdon is owned by the same company that own the Cottage Loaf, Erskine Arms etc but hopefully they will leave it alone as it is great as it is.  As an aside the consortium that own The Albion, Bridge etc no longer own The Australian in Porthmadog. Instead, Purple Moose have taken it on, are refurbishing it and will re-open it without the other three breweries.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on February 28, 2017, 04:07:33 pm
Refurbishing it? I could swear I wrote a story not too long about refurbishment when first taken on by consortium.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on February 28, 2017, 04:18:10 pm
Refurbishing it? I could swear I wrote a story not too long about refurbishment when first taken on by consortium.

Having another refurb by the looks of it:

https://www.facebook.com/AustraliaPorthmadog/posts/1662506390709226 (https://www.facebook.com/AustraliaPorthmadog/posts/1662506390709226)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on March 02, 2017, 10:41:52 am
A bit away from the thread. However a mention about the Australia pub in Porthmadog. Thought to myself, been in there years ago.
   However a funny incident years ago in my coach driving days. The firm was m and h of trefnant. I was being briefed by one of the bosses about a school run I was doing at 6 30 the next day. It was a long way, private school of course. Start st Asaph,Abergele, towyn, Rhyl, Prestatyn, meliden, dyserth , trelawned, lloc, gorsedd, Holywell off to Chester. In the towns in order all the pickups were close to a pub. George and dragon, swan in Rhyl, cross foxes Prestatyn, red lion
Dyserth druids gorsedd etc etc. At one stage the boss said to me "do you know where all these pubs are?" My reply. Never mind know them, so far every one you mentioned I have been inside at one time or another
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 02, 2017, 06:52:47 pm
That reminded me of a couple of things that happened to me when I was playing football many years ago.    When we played against a team from Maghull near Liverpool we used to hire a coach and then pick up the players at certain pick up points on the way there.      The last pick up point was outside the Rose and Crown in New Brighton, just outside Mold where my friend Tony was waiting inside the pub for the coach to arrive.
I used to ask the driver to give two hoots on the horn and then I'd go inside to find him.
Unknown to the others the two hoots was a prearranged signal for Tony to order another pint for me and we would enjoy a quick pint together before going on our way to the match.        Z**

Another time was when we used to have the end of the football season do and hire a coach to take the team to and from Tremeirchion where we would enjoy an evening in a pub there.    That was quite a sensible thing to do we thought but the coach owner and driver, who incidentally, is well known to Mike and myself  used to turn up to take us home and join in in our drinking spree and have more to drink than we did.    How he got us all home in one piece driving down those narrow lanes at night must have been more by luck than by judgement.     &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 03, 2017, 09:11:24 am
I know what the owner was saying to Bosun though, because more and more 'problem customers' are being attracted to Llandudno.
I have seen tables of eight visitors in the Emperor Chinese all walk out refusing to pay, after gorging themselves on food and alcohol.  It made me angry and sick for the proprietor.
The same has apparently happened 2 or 3 times in Mango and Bamboo in the previous few weeks.
They don't deserve to be treated this way by scum, freeloading visitors, no one does.
I remembered Festers comments from before when I read this............
Some 120 diners celebrating a baptism at a restaurant in a north-western Spanish town all fled the restaurant at once without paying, the owner said.
The Romanian diners, who had paid a deposit of €900 ($950; £770), left the El Carmen restaurant in Bembibre as dessert was due to be served, Antonio Rodriguez said.
"It happened in the space of a minute," he said. "It was something they had planned and they left in a stampede."
The diners owe €2,000 more, he said.
Mr Rodriguez gave police the details on the reservation but said he held out little hope of being repaid. Police told El Pais newspaper they had not yet been able to contact any of the diners.
The diners had consumed starters, a main course and 30 bottles of various alcoholic drinks, he said, adding that it was the first time in 35 years of working in the restaurant trade that he had seen seen anything comparable.  Ref B
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on March 03, 2017, 12:07:46 pm
I tell you Steve, this sort of vermin are becoming the norm, as each generation is born without the values of their forebears.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 06, 2017, 09:39:19 am
I am sad to read on Tom's twitter this morning that Enoch's is closing the Llandudno Junction branch today.
On a brighter note, (for some!), Bryn has put some new dishes on the menu at the skip.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 06, 2017, 10:16:28 am
I am sad to read on Tom's twitter this morning that Enoch's is closing the Llandudno Junction branch today.
On a brighter note, (for some!), Bryn has put some new dishes on the menu at the skip.

Its ok H. Tom has just revised his DP blog......

Popular chippy... to be refurbished!
Panic over everyone... It appears the message on Facebook is somewhat misleading. The Llandudno Junction chippy is not closing for good, but rather, for a refurbishment.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on March 06, 2017, 10:18:46 am
Enochs announced on Facebook they were closing in Junction however all is not as it seems... see Daily Post site very shortly!

As for my weekend, I darkened the door of The Nevill for the first time in my four years living in Llandudno/Junction. AN absolutely appalling selection of beer (no hand pull whatsoever) but there was a decent lager for £2.50 so I was somewhat pleased.

They had all the footy on and speaking to a few in the establishment there's been a real effort to crack down on the less than savoury characters who used to frequent it. Probably where I'll go in Llandudno to watch the footy in future.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on March 07, 2017, 12:14:28 pm
I tell you Steve, this sort of vermin are becoming the norm, as each generation is born without the values of their forebears.

And they also said that about your generation, and every other generation before that!

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

ATTRIBUTION: Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato, according to William L.
Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277
(1953)."

Bartleby.com
http://www.bartleby.com/73/195.html (http://www.bartleby.com/73/195.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 07, 2017, 02:21:12 pm
Indeed. Nowt new under the sun...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 12, 2017, 05:42:47 pm
Been out for a posh birthday lunch with mum and action man to Tyddyn Llan in Llandrillo.
A great restaurant for a special treat.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 03, 2017, 03:11:18 pm
I was in Johnny Dough's on Friday, lovely pizza once again (and very busy). East on Saturday night was also chocka, we had the gourmet menu for four of us, plenty of food and good quality. Went to Gresham later on, which was absolutely HEAVING. Great to see Llandudno so busy.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 03, 2017, 04:11:22 pm
I was in Johnny Dough's on Friday, lovely pizza once again (and very busy). East on Saturday night was also chocka, we had the gourmet menu for four of us, plenty of food and good quality. Went to Gresham later on, which was absolutely HEAVING. Great to see Llandudno so busy.
Celebrating the win  ?    ......   &well&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 03, 2017, 04:34:30 pm
Not exactly local but I can't see Hollins or my walking friend Uncle Albert Albert dining at either the Bombay Joes in Morfa Nefyn or Steven Gerrard's  Vincent's Cafe

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwickL24zojTAhWrIMAKHUE-A-IQFggvMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fincoming%2Fpopular-gwynedd-restaurants-zero-hygiene-12418452&usg=AFQjCNEA4pn7g3BjGZL2058q5CPIFEpn6g (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwickL24zojTAhWrIMAKHUE-A-IQFggvMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fincoming%2Fpopular-gwynedd-restaurants-zero-hygiene-12418452&usg=AFQjCNEA4pn7g3BjGZL2058q5CPIFEpn6g)

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjri_SLzYjTAhVBDMAKHYxdCMoQFggrMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fnews%2F3227804%2Fsteven-gerrard-and-ryan-giggs-restaurants-both-given-shocking-scores-for-hygiene%2F&usg=AFQjCNG45nzFbOejBcYTXTHu_yCVEvEVEA (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjri_SLzYjTAhVBDMAKHYxdCMoQFggrMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fnews%2F3227804%2Fsteven-gerrard-and-ryan-giggs-restaurants-both-given-shocking-scores-for-hygiene%2F&usg=AFQjCNG45nzFbOejBcYTXTHu_yCVEvEVEA)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 03, 2017, 05:56:10 pm
I was out with the in-laws actually.  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 11, 2017, 08:50:50 am
The renovation of The Links in Llandudno appears to be pretty major... has anyone seen any designs of what the finished article will look like?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2017, 01:13:46 pm
I don't think it has been mentioned on here but there has been shenanigans at the Asia Restaurant.

Following the expiry of the Asia lease, the entire staff have moved across the road to the former Mango & Bamboo restaurant and they have renamed it the Merchant of Spice. The old Asia is now being run by the building's landlord and some hastily assembled staff.

Anyway, we went to the Merchant Of Spice on Friday night and the standard of food was as good as ever was in Asia.  $thanx$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2017, 01:15:30 pm
We went to Wildwood for the first time last night. Early reviews had put us off a bit but we thought it time to give it a go. It was ok, but nothing really special in my view, 7/10 at best.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dunskey on April 11, 2017, 01:42:00 pm
The renovation of The Links in Llandudno appears to be pretty major... has anyone seen any designs of what the finished article will look like?

Here you go.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 11, 2017, 02:04:33 pm
We went to Wildwood for the first time last night. Early reviews had put us off a bit but we thought it time to give it a go. It was ok, but nothing really special in my view, 7/10 at best.

I warned you, but you obviously didn't listen.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Jack on April 11, 2017, 05:34:46 pm
I don't think it has been mentioned on here but there has been shenanigans at the Asia Restaurant.

Following the expiry of the Asia lease, the entire staff have moved across the road to the former Mango & Bamboo restaurant and they have renamed it the Merchant of Spice. The old Asia is now being run by the building's landlord and some hastily assembled staff.

Anyway, we went to the Merchant Of Spice on Friday night and the standard of food was as good as ever was in Asia.  $thanx$

And to confuse things further, 'Merchant of Spice' is only a temporary name and it will be called 'Blue Elephant' in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 11, 2017, 07:03:19 pm
We went to the Ty Asha in Llanwrst at the weekend, having been to the Ja Ho a couple of times in the past couple of months and felt that the standard has slipped.  The Ty Asha was excellent and has regained it's position that in our opinion it's the best Indian restaurant in the area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 12, 2017, 01:52:16 pm
I think it was Fester who said Mango and Bamboo would never last - obviously he was right!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on April 12, 2017, 02:48:21 pm
Even a stopped clock etc etc  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 12, 2017, 04:56:38 pm
I'm disappointed, because the idea and the food were excellent.... but it was way too quiet to be preparing and wasting so much great food, so it was never going to last.

I also said the same about the Sphinx Shisha bar in upper Mostyn St,  and it lasted about a month or less.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on April 14, 2017, 03:20:37 pm
I see the Paysanne was mentioned in the Sunday Times, they described it as a Bistro, I don't think the owner will be to insulted even a small article in the Times must be good for business!
Hope I can get a table next time I try.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2017, 04:03:49 pm
I see the Paysanne was mentioned in the Sunday Times, they described it as a Bistro, I don't think the owner will be to insulted even a small article in the Times must be good for business!
Hope I can get a table next time I try.

The Paysanne is excellent,  and I'd say it is a bistro.  Unless I'm missing something?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Yelboh on April 14, 2017, 08:31:05 pm
Had an amazing meal at Paysanne last night, great food, great wine, great value.  We've been going for years and it's always good.  It was fully booked!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on April 15, 2017, 10:04:05 am
I see the Paysanne was mentioned in the Sunday Times, they described it as a Bistro, I don't think the owner will be to insulted even a small article in the Times must be good for business!
Hope I can get a table next time I try.

The Paysanne is excellent,  and I'd say it is a bistro.  Unless I'm missing something?

A Bistro is lowest form of eaterie in France, usually serving meat or fish stews for a very limited time each day. The word has been hijacked by UK restauranters because they think the word is cute, or maybe because they actually think Bistro is a high end French restaurant.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2017, 11:32:51 am
Outside the Three Towns area, but it's good to see the Dinorben Arms in Bodfari will soon be back in business.         It was a very popular place in the 70's and I've enjoyed many an evening in the place.
It wasn't looking so good last time I saw it when I was out walking in that area so it's really good to see the transformation that has happened since then. 



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gastro-pub-chain-transforms-historic-12898476 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gastro-pub-chain-transforms-historic-12898476)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 16, 2017, 12:54:22 pm
These North Wales outlets are on the Food Awards Wales shortlist
From Michelin star restaurants to country pubs, the dozens of establishments to make the list.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/food-awards-wales-shortlist-2017-12883354?service=responsive#ICID=sharebar_twitter (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/food-awards-wales-shortlist-2017-12883354?service=responsive#ICID=sharebar_twitter)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 16, 2017, 02:10:39 pm
My guests last night went to the Bengal Dynasty and had an appalling meal. After waiting 1 hour 45 minutes for their main course they were served with inedible mush. They complained and the bill was waived, but the B D have certainly lost 2 quite regular clients.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2017, 02:25:22 pm
I noticed that Bombay Joes from Nefyn was not on the list.   It's had very good Trip Adviser ratings but zero star ratings on Food Hygiene.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 16, 2017, 03:05:36 pm
I would have liked to have seen the full list before it was shortlisted and confirmation that to enter is free. 

http://creativeoceanic.com/about.html (http://creativeoceanic.com/about.html)  *&(
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 16, 2017, 03:50:51 pm
I had a curry from the Merchant of Spice/Blue Elephant on Thursday evening and it was excellent - top marks. Also, the name has now fully changed to Blue Elephant!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 16, 2017, 04:19:33 pm
I would have liked to have seen the full list before it was shortlisted and confirmation that to enter is free. 
http://creativeoceanic.com/about.html (http://creativeoceanic.com/about.html)  *&(
Agreed, however very clever, I like the business idea, it pays to market, The Welsh Food industry is not on their list.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 17, 2017, 12:11:33 am
My guests last night went to the Bengal Dynasty and had an appalling meal. After waiting 1 hour 45 minutes for their main course they were served with inedible mush. They complained and the bill was waived, but the B D have certainly lost 2 quite regular clients.

Only been to the Bengal twice,  it was utter garbage both times Nem.
Send them to the Blue Elephant, (despite it having a pink elephant on the sign), it's the same menu as when it was The Asia,  and it's awesome.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on April 17, 2017, 08:48:16 am
Will do. Fes. Thanks for that . :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on April 17, 2017, 10:22:32 am
We went to the Ty Asha in Llanwrst at the weekend, having been to the Ja Ho a couple of times in the past couple of months and felt that the standard has slipped.  The Ty Asha was excellent and has regained it's position that in our opinion it's the best Indian restaurant in the area.

Having recently extolled the virtues of the Ty Asha, we went there a couple of days ago and had a poor meal and poor service. Every dish was bland and decidedly below par. Argh!

But, the place was busy so the management were happy........ so that's all right then......   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 17, 2017, 10:58:14 am
I am sorry to hear about the BG.

We often used to visit there on a Sunday for their value-for-money buffet and were rarely disappointed.

After it changed hands, we went once and in a virtually empty restaurant, we were encouraged to sit at a table immediately next to the only other couple in there.

When we went to the buffet it was empty so we walked out and haven't been back.

I hope the BG soon get their act together including removing all those old wall photographs which have long served their purpose
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 19, 2017, 03:51:14 pm
I am going to the Seahorse for the first time on Saturday and I am excited.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on April 19, 2017, 06:58:05 pm
Er...are those two facts connected?  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on April 21, 2017, 06:49:39 pm
Llandudno's premier bar and restaurant, in danger of losing its license ... as a result of the Landlord's assault on his partner, and the police!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-landlord-threw-partner-ground-12927911 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-landlord-threw-partner-ground-12927911)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 07, 2017, 05:42:40 pm
What a gorgeous day!
Looking good in Conwy and a delicious Sunday roast in Signatures.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2017, 12:47:12 am
Looks like a boiled egg on the top of that cheesecake??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 16, 2017, 09:21:19 am
New Conwy town pub's taste of things to come
The Erskine Arms whets appetites with sample menu - and is just weeks away from opening.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/new-conwy-town-pubs-taste-13039288 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/new-conwy-town-pubs-taste-13039288)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 22, 2017, 07:22:33 am
An expensive and indulgent weekend for me...

Friday night was dinner at Johnny Dough's, absolutely top notch as always. Good sized pizza, tastes fresh, good selection of local booze. 10/10

Carlos in Craigydon on Saturday night, very good Italians (something I'm not normally too fussed on). Great service and quite a nice little restaurant.

Sunday morning soup at Tu Hwnt I'r Bont (spiced parsnip), a hearty portion size served with crusty warmed bread. Personally prefer curried parsnip to spiced parsnip but still good. The scones are good too.

Sunday lunch at The Albert, I am morally AGAINST having to pay extra for a Yorkshire pudding with your roast dinner if it's not beef. Listen here, if it doesn't have a yorkie, it is not a roast dinner in my view. Other than that, the beef I had was a touch overcooked but other than that it was good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2017, 08:39:08 am
Tom. after your gourmet workout I think that you'll need a workout at the gym next weekend instead.      ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2017, 09:20:19 am
An expensive and indulgent weekend for me...

Friday night was dinner at Johnny Dough's, absolutely top notch as always. Good sized pizza, tastes fresh, good selection of local booze. 10/10

Carlos in Craigydon on Saturday night, very good Italians (something I'm not normally too fussed on). Great service and quite a nice little restaurant.

Sunday morning soup at Tu Hwnt I'r Bont (spiced parsnip), a hearty portion size served with crusty warmed bread. Personally prefer curried parsnip to spiced parsnip but still good. The scones are good too.

Sunday lunch at The Albert, I am morally AGAINST having to pay extra for a Yorkshire pudding with your roast dinner if it's not beef. Listen here, if it doesn't have a yorkie, it is not a roast dinner in my view. Other than that, the beef I had was a touch overcooked but other than that it was good.
We went to East on Friday evening, very busy in there. Great meal, as always, a good alternative to Tops if you fancy a change.

Like Tom, we also went to the Albert for Sunday Lunch, had the Beef. Delicious, and a decent sized portion as well. A pint of Birra Moretti washed it all down nicely.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 23, 2017, 07:43:41 pm
This caravan park restaurant will take on Gordon Ramsay and Pierre Marco White to be named UK's best eating place
Signatures in Conwy has been shortlisted for Restaurant of the Year 2017

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/caravan-park-restaurant-take-gordon-13081570 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/caravan-park-restaurant-take-gordon-13081570)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Michael on May 23, 2017, 08:22:00 pm
May I stick my nose in to all these eating posts. Because I don't eat out often so don't feel qualified to comment. Also I am not too sure about posting with very dubious comments. However, moderators no hard feeling if you delete.
  This week was the AGM of an association I am a member of. The venue is moved but for the last few years it's been the Marine in Old Colwyn. Light refreshments provided, nothing fancy, not a meal.
  But this year the venue was changed to Porth Eirias, the main reason being car parking space. I was told that the room costs were the same. I presume that covers the refreshments.
  I cannot beat about the bush. In scouse language I would say " you're having a laugh." The refreshments, if that is the correct word, were terrible. Two choices of sandwiches, both with dried up bread and nothing much in between. Some sort of, I don't know, was it a cold sausage roll. And coffee which I didn't even have.
  By comparison the Marine was a feast. A good choice of fresh hot snacks.
   At least I can boast " oh I've eaten in the Porth Eirias". But don't hold your breath for me to return for a proper meal
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on May 24, 2017, 09:16:57 am
The Mulberry in Conwy was always the same for sandwiches. Dried up bread and a tiny dot of butter in the middle of the sandwich! couldn't even be bothered to spread it to the edges - they always charged about £7 for them as well, ludicrous. Give me Edwards or the Ham Bone any day (although if you're eating outside the battle with the Seagulls might well void your enjoyment)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: BMD on May 24, 2017, 06:17:27 pm
  But this year the venue was changed to Porth Eirias, the main reason being car parking space. I was told that the room costs were the same. I presume that covers the refreshments.
  I cannot beat about the bush. In scouse language I would say " you're having a laugh." The refreshments, if that is the correct word, were terrible.

Are refreshments provided to the rented conference rooms (I assume that's what you mean, rather than the main restaurant area) served up by the Bryn Williams people?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 24, 2017, 06:45:08 pm
We made a reservation for the skip today as we had friends visiting who live inland and we thought they would enjoy the sea view.
We also read on the reviews that a new menu was due end April, beg May.
Sadly, this was not the case so all four of us chose the fish fingers again as did the couple on the next table to us.
Shame the choice is still so limited and not in my view very seasonal at all.
The same cannot be said for the tea menu which has plenty of variety and we spotted a rhubarb spritzer. This was delicious and most unusual.
We were served today by an excellent Spanish waitress from Seville.
When I think of the huge varied choice available on the Dylan's menu I can't help thinking the takings are going to take a dive at the skip when they open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 24, 2017, 09:14:14 pm
Last weekend, one of our daughters, her husband and another couple visited Wildwood.

Everyone ordered a main meal but because our daughter wan't feeling brilliant, she asked if she could please order a half portion of risotto.

Her request was refused leaving her to pay for a £12 meal and having to leave half of it.

Needless to say none of the four will be returning and I doubt if we ever will either.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 24, 2017, 09:22:49 pm
We made a reservation for the skip today as we had friends visiting who live inland and we thought they would enjoy the sea view.
We also read on the reviews that a new menu was due end April, beg May.
Sadly, this was not the case so all four of us chose the fish fingers again as did the couple on the next table to us.
Shame the choice is still so limited and not in my view very seasonal at all.
The same cannot be said for the tea menu which has plenty of variety and we spotted a rhubarb spritzer. This was delicious and most unusual.
We were served today by an excellent Spanish waitress from Seville.
When I think of the huge varied choice available on the Dylan's menu I can't help thinking the takings are going to take a dive at the skip when they open.

Fish Fingers ?  OMG.....I'll send our great granddaughters with you next time ! :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: spotty dog on May 25, 2017, 05:30:39 pm
Lunch at Dylan's today service was perfect they did phone to put back our booking by 30 mins I had Caesar salad it was spot on with a good dressing the other half had seafood linguine plenty of seafood and perfectly cooked our guests had hake ,and sea bass both well cooked and of ample size, so a good start they gave us a tour of the building and we were impressed with the referb but it's going to take some filling in the winters
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 25, 2017, 09:52:16 pm
That's good to hear. Very brave of you going on the first day.
I was wondering who would be first to report back.
Thanks for giving us all the feedback.   $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 26, 2017, 08:03:28 am
I haven't been to Dylan's yet but you're right to say it will take some filling, it is MASSIVE, 250 covers, without including the outside seating.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on June 02, 2017, 10:14:51 am
Mrs B and I visited the refurbished Erskine Arms Conwy yesterday evening and I have to say that I was very impressed. The fitting out is a work of art, with lots of beautiful oak. It's nicely planned too, with different types of seating areas, open plan in parts. (A pity Robinson's didn't use the same interior designer for the Mulberry....) And delightfully, no muzac! There was a good choice of draught beer and the food was very good, the staff keen and friendly. It's a real asset to Conwy.

A little different to the response to when we called in at the new Dylan's on Tuesday lunchtime. No-one sitting outside despite it being a lovely day and just five people inside on the ground floor. We just wanted a light lunch but were told by a bored waitress that upstairs was full and they didn't do food downstairs..... 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on June 02, 2017, 11:29:23 am
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A little different to the response to when we called in at the new Dylan's on Tuesday lunchtime. No-one sitting outside despite it being a lovely day and just five people inside on the ground floor. We just wanted a light lunch but were told by a bored waitress that upstairs was full and they didn't do food downstairs.....
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Do they serve food outside or is that too risky because of gull attacks?
Not a good way to kick off your business though!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 02, 2017, 11:34:08 am
I was looking up Dylan's details on Google the other day, and saw the review section, and was surprised by the negative comments....price of drinks,(careful which wine you order some are £11 per glass) food quality and the comparison to their other sites, bearing in mind the hype over opening of this restaurant, it's hardly a good first impression, which is so important to any new business, let's hope it is just teething problems. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on June 02, 2017, 12:52:16 pm
I only have anecdotal evience of the food quality of the new Dylans, of my three chums who have managed to eat there, one person raved about it (but he is an elderly bachelor who has to eat his own cooking) and two who took parties of five and six people and both described the food as no better than average, certainly nothing special. I have to say that after my experience, I won't hurry back.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 02, 2017, 05:31:45 pm
Anecdotal here too...
Sorry to say that the 2 couple I know who have been, thought it was overpriced and average.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2017, 09:19:37 am
I would always leave a new restaurant for a month or two to allow it to settle down before visiting.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on June 05, 2017, 12:12:42 pm
I would always leave a new restaurant for a month or two to allow it to settle down before visiting.


If everybody did that they'd go bust before you got there!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2017, 09:31:38 am
I would always leave a new restaurant for a month or two to allow it to settle down before visiting.


If everybody did that they'd go bust before you got there!
Hmmm...you may have a point!  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 10, 2017, 10:58:42 am
There's a new Italian ice cream parlour being kitted out in one of the Travelodge's shop units.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 10, 2017, 12:46:41 pm
There's a new Italian ice cream parlour being kitted out in one of the Travelodge's shop units.

Interesting!   It could have quite an impact on the excellent 'Looking Glass' just around the corner.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 11, 2017, 01:51:04 pm
It looks like Dylan's needs to get its act together...
Every recent TripAdvisor review is terrible!!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on June 11, 2017, 02:51:15 pm
Went Friday lunch, quite good Burger, but £5 for a pint of Wrexham Lager!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 11, 2017, 03:04:34 pm
Fair way to go to beat the King's house, though :-) 

TA reviews on that one are decidedly odd. More than half rate it as Terrible and slightly under half as Excellent.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 11, 2017, 07:01:37 pm
Fair way to go to beat the King's house, though :-) 

TA reviews on that one are decidedly odd. More than half rate it as Terrible and slightly under half as Excellent.

It's a kebab house for late night drunks, what were you expecting?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 11, 2017, 07:03:36 pm
 :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2017, 07:42:29 pm
We passed the London in Upper Mostyn Street this afternoon and noticed it had closed for refurbishment by the LC Hotel Group.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 18, 2017, 08:42:43 pm
We passed the London in Upper Mostyn Street this afternoon and noticed it had closed for refurbishment by the LC Hotel Group.

Correct!  They're going for world domination!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2017, 09:50:55 pm
They certainly seem to have the confidence to invest in our town.

My guess is the London could eventually turn out to be another Snooze Bar.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2017, 09:25:04 am
Another great meal in the Blue Elephant on Friday night, the South Indian Garlic Chilli was as fantastic as always. I spotted a famous local journalist in there too.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on June 19, 2017, 11:42:07 am
Yes I rate the Blue Elephant too, we had a good meal across the road in Asia on Sat night so we are spoilt for choice. I like sitting in the window at Asia and watching the world go by, the shop location of BE is its only drawback.

Took the family to Wildwood last week, the food was ok but portions are too small and I thought drinks were expensive. I go to an Italian restaurant for a gut full not to come home for a snack.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2017, 11:51:04 am
You've reminded me that we had lunch in Wildwood on Thursday. It was the '2 courses and a drink for £10' offer and it was very good. I had the Bruschetta as a starter and then the Burger as a main. Bruschetta wasn't massive but acceptable, whilst the burger was a decent size and tasty. We had Prosecco to drink (costs a £1 extra). Nice meal and efficient staff, good value.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on June 19, 2017, 07:28:26 pm
That sounds like good value Dave. I am now a fully fledged fan of Wildwood now my daughter has started work there  :P
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on June 19, 2017, 08:59:59 pm
Some guests went to the Bengal on Saturday and gave quite poor feedback.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2017, 09:25:18 pm
Some guests went to the Bengal on Saturday and gave quite poor feedback.
No one should go there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 19, 2017, 10:26:05 pm
I had a sit down meal in Blue Elephant on Friday night. It was first rate and very good value, less than £40. Two main meals, two rice, two side and two drinks. (Yes, I had company) 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 20, 2017, 12:25:06 pm
There's a new Italian ice cream parlour being kitted out in one of the Travelodge's shop units.

The Crolla Ice Cream Company.....

http://www.crollasicecream.co.uk/home/ (http://www.crollasicecream.co.uk/home/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 20, 2017, 03:43:40 pm
Very nice but opening hours are:

Saturday 8am - 12pm.

Sunday CLOSED

Almost as bad as Wildwood who do not open until midday every day (unless it has recently changed)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 21, 2017, 09:38:07 am
Almost as bad as Wildwood who do not open until midday every day (unless it has recently changed)
It's a restaurant, rather than a cafe, so wouldn't open until lunchtime.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 22, 2017, 12:31:51 pm
One will not be turned away if one orders tea and coffee either inside or out.

DaveR, I would imagine they are losing plenty of income by not opening until noon.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 24, 2017, 02:33:15 pm
Llandudno micro pub plan for cake shop
David Guinn wants the site to promote local ales and lagers from craft breweries in the area.

A mobile bar owner wants to open a micro pub in Llandudno.
David Guinn, who has been running Smooth Mobile Bars for weddings and parties, now wants to bring Tapps Micro Pub to the seaside town.
He says the pub would sell local ales and lagers with a focus on providing an outlet for micro breweries in the area.

Mr Guinn has submitted the pub plan for the site of a cake shop on Madoc Street.
In his application, he said: "At the forefront of my plans for Tapps is to provide a hub for locals and visitors to enjoy a wide array of local ales and lagers, primarily concentrating on local micro breweries and their products.
“Food will also be sourced from local producers, ideally within Snowdonia, as a low key addition to the ales.

“I feel this will offer Llandudno something different to all of the chain style pubs and nightclub venues in town.
“I want Tapps to be a respectable and enjoyable venue for all ages.”
The pub would create up to five full and part time roles.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-micro-pub-plan-cake-13232011 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-micro-pub-plan-cake-13232011)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2017, 06:26:45 pm
Llandudno McDonald's is set to be demolished with two restaurants built at Mostyn Champneys to replace it.

Under the proposal submitted to Conwy council the fast food restaurant would be knocked down with McDonald's moving to a new two storey site next to the Iceland store.
If planning is granted, they would only move once the second site is ready to open.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-mcdonalds-restaurant-knocked-downbut-13264088 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-mcdonalds-restaurant-knocked-downbut-13264088)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on July 11, 2017, 09:25:47 am
Johnny Dough's has twice been a very pleasant experience, both the food and the staff have been excellent.  The first time was so good, we went back with friends and had a really nice supper. It's a real asset to Llandudno.

I can thoroughly recommend the beer in the Bay Hop, Colwyn Bay, an excellent establishment the likes of which I hope to see more in the area.

The disappointment of the year (so far) was the poor meal we had last week at the Seahorse -  bland, tasteless and overcooked. However, the staff were pleasant.

Sadly I keep hearing the same experience being repeated about Dylans, very mediocre and overpriced. Several friends have all reported the same thing, one immensely disappointed with the poor food and service having taken her family there for her mothers birthday. It doesn't fill me with a longing to try it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 19, 2017, 09:52:57 am
Chinese restaurant plan for Rhos-on-Sea's Old Pump House
The former owner of the popular Fu's in Caernarfon is behind the application.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-restaurant-plan-rhos-seas-13351150 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-restaurant-plan-rhos-seas-13351150)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Neil on July 19, 2017, 11:07:12 am
I haven't had a decent Chines since I left Manchester,  some of the local ones can't even cook rice!
Hope this Fu guy can, if this project ever happens.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on July 19, 2017, 11:35:37 am
Fu is from Manchester and previously tried to get the Washington.

Fu's in Caernarfon is standard Chinese restaurant fayre. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 19, 2017, 11:49:30 am
I like East Cantonese Restaurant, have not been disappointed yet, both food and service, I find excellent.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on July 19, 2017, 12:15:40 pm
Chinese restaurant plan for Rhos-on-Sea's Old Pump House
The former owner of the popular Fu's in Caernarfon is behind the application.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-restaurant-plan-rhos-seas-13351150 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-restaurant-plan-rhos-seas-13351150)


I would find it difficult eating in a restaurant that used to be a sewage works to be honest!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 19, 2017, 02:44:01 pm
Have you got inside information on that SDQ because I seem to remember what happened on the West Shore in the 1960's  on a flo tide  too.    :puke2:     
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 31, 2017, 05:56:47 pm
Is it true that a planning application has been submitted to change the Listers shop in Gloddaeth Street into another restaurant?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on August 01, 2017, 12:38:09 pm
Llandudno micro pub plan for cake shop
David Guinn wants the site to promote local ales and lagers from craft breweries in the area.

A mobile bar owner wants to open a micro pub in Llandudno.
David Guinn, who has been running Smooth Mobile Bars for weddings and parties, now wants to bring Tapps Micro Pub to the seaside town.
He says the pub would sell local ales and lagers with a focus on providing an outlet for micro breweries in the area.

Mr Guinn has submitted the pub plan for the site of a cake shop on Madoc Street.
In his application, he said: "At the forefront of my plans for Tapps is to provide a hub for locals and visitors to enjoy a wide array of local ales and lagers, primarily concentrating on local micro breweries and their products.
“Food will also be sourced from local producers, ideally within Snowdonia, as a low key addition to the ales.

“I feel this will offer Llandudno something different to all of the chain style pubs and nightclub venues in town.
“I want Tapps to be a respectable and enjoyable venue for all ages.”
The pub would create up to five full and part time roles.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-micro-pub-plan-cake-13232011 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-micro-pub-plan-cake-13232011)

I would be very excited if this gets off the ground, fingers crossed it does! They will certainly have our patronage.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2017, 08:54:26 am
Had Sunday Lunch in the Albert again last week. Not the cheapest in town but always very tasty.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 03, 2017, 03:04:06 pm
I can't believe you've never seen me in there DaveR, my regular!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 03, 2017, 03:20:05 pm
Doesn't the use of the word 'again' suggest that Dave has eaten there before?
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 04, 2017, 03:55:07 pm
Chinese restaurant plan for Rhos-on-Sea's Old Pump House
The former owner of the popular Fu's in Caernarfon is behind the application.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-restaurant-plan-rhos-seas-13351150 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/chinese-restaurant-plan-rhos-seas-13351150)


I would find it difficult eating in a restaurant that used to be a sewage works to be honest!

A new eatery in Yorkshire has just opened in the village where I lived.....in the old public toilets !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 04, 2017, 11:13:06 pm
I'm hearing that The Royal Hotel has been acquired by the LC (Lawton Court) family, to turn it into a hotel and function rooms. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 05, 2017, 08:21:19 am
I hope you are hearing right as the place has been a derelict mess for too long now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 11, 2017, 06:57:48 pm
The time has come the walrus said for Mr and Mrs Hollins to try Dylan's in LLandudno.
Finally braved it. I had been putting it off because I was desperate to avoid being disappointed.
The reviews have been so mixed but we were determined to go with an open mind.
We were greeted immediately and warmly but here came an initial disappointment which was that the upstairs isn't open at lunchtime on  Monday to Friday.
The staff were all very attentive possibly because I recognised that the owners were there. I realise now having just read Dave's posts that they must have been there for the Food Slam meeting.
At the end of our meal we went for a look around upstairs and the owners took the time to chat with us.
Back to the meal which was by the large window at the far end of the room downstairs.
I think we did a fair test of three courses each. Starters, octopus on foccacia and chicken skewers with pickled vegetables. Mains, seafood linguine and hake with leek and mustard sauce. Puddings, white chocolate mousse with raspberries and churros with vanilla ice cream and chocolate sauce.
Some small criticisms of the food, linguine portion much smaller than at Menai Bridge, topping on hake a bit too salty for me and chocolate mousse too sweet.
I have never seen the interior before but I think they have done a great job. I loved the use of the Welsh double cloth fabrics for the upholstery and the lampshades. The fish water jugs were also attractive and unusual.
Pity we didn't get the upstairs view but the weather was so dull today it didn't matter so much.
Tom, I saw on your twitter page that you had been recently. How did you find it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2017, 02:46:38 pm
Looks somewhat quiet. ????
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 12, 2017, 03:08:37 pm
I thought it was good! I had low expectations following some very mixed reports but I enjoyed it, the whitebait starter was very good. It is pricey but you not paying for the food, you're paying to be in such a lovely space - that said I thought upstairs was quite loud, very echo-y. Nothing there to soak up all the chatter. Still, good to see it so busy. If it was 20% cheaper I'd be a regular customer I think, but alas...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 12, 2017, 03:11:36 pm
Looks somewhat quiet. ????


The photos I took upstairs are empty because it was closed up there at lunchtime during weekdays.
The downstairs ones were taken when the tables had cleared of customers around us because I did not want to invade their privacy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 12, 2017, 03:14:47 pm
I thought it was good! I had low expectations following some very mixed reports but I enjoyed it, the whitebait starter was very good. It is pricey but you not paying for the food, you're paying to be in such a lovely space - that said I thought upstairs was quite loud, very echo-y. Nothing there to soak up all the chatter. Still, good to see it so busy. If it was 20% cheaper I'd be a regular customer I think, but alas...

That's good Tom. I am glad I am not the only one trying to support a new local business. I thought it an excellent new venue and look forward to returning and trying the upstairs too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 12, 2017, 04:08:47 pm
that said I thought upstairs was quite loud, very echo-y. Nothing there to soak up all the chatter. Still, good to see it so busy.

That seems to be a trend in modern eateries. Lots of hard surfaces and few curved surfaces and it makes even normal conversation grow louder, which starts the vicious circle.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Giggly girl on August 13, 2017, 02:13:51 pm
Eaten some lovely food at Dylans, I do go for the fish there.  I agree about the habit of hard surfaces and echoes these days it is annoying.  The Opera Grill in Chester is deafening when busy as is Piccolinos.  I recall Gigolos in Llandudno being clattery though.  I can see their point quick to clean unlike carpeting and drapes but blooming annoying all the same. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 15, 2017, 10:17:46 am
Is it true that a planning application has been submitted to change the Listers shop in Gloddaeth Street into another restaurant?
It's going to be a chip shop, I believe....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 15, 2017, 02:38:54 pm
Is it true that a planning application has been submitted to change the Listers shop in Gloddaeth Street into another restaurant?
It's going to be a chip shop, I believe....

So that whole area which was about 80% retail and 20% food and drink will soon become the other way around.
Only a matter of time before Gimberts becomes a coffee shop, after all I never see anyone buying anything in there and the rent must be massive.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 15, 2017, 02:46:25 pm
Makes sense a lot of people buy stuff online these days. You can't have a coffee or a chip butty online (although that'll probably be next)  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 15, 2017, 03:26:19 pm
Restaurant chain Pizza Express is to come to Llandudno.

The restaurant group has signed up to go into the Tudno Castle Hotel site, which is currently being redeveloped.
Developers said the chain will take on a 2,800 sq ft retail unit on the ground floor of 'Tudno Point' after agreeing a 25 year lease.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/pizza-express-restaurant-coming-llandudno-13478342 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/pizza-express-restaurant-coming-llandudno-13478342)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 15, 2017, 05:03:45 pm
I'm all for more business coming into the town but it'll take a lot to persuade me to ditch favourite pizza place in town - Johnny Dough's.

Seems to be a national trend that towns are entirely taken over with eateries. In the heart of Newcastle I've lost count of the number of restaurants. Llandudno has just got Dylan's, is getting a Pizza Express AND a Beefeater in Tudno Castle. I see chat about the old Listers becoming a fish and chip shop. The London has been renovated and now does food...


There's certainly plenty of choice.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 15, 2017, 05:22:04 pm
I hope that you are not too hungry Tom and waiting for the Castle Hotel to open

Mostyn Estates managing director Edward Hiller said: “The build period will take circa 18 months and initially repairs to the Grade 2 listed façade will take place prior to the commencement of the main build 

You must have tried all the restaurants in Llandudno but have you tried Signatures in Conwy?     It's a bit pricey but if you become a member then there are certain discounts offered to the members
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 15, 2017, 05:30:49 pm
I'm all for more business coming into the town but it'll take a lot to persuade me to ditch favourite pizza place in town - Johnny Dough's.

Seems to be a national trend that towns are entirely taken over with eateries. In the heart of Newcastle I've lost count of the number of restaurants. Llandudno has just got Dylan's, is getting a Pizza Express AND a Beefeater in Tudno Castle. I see chat about the old Listers becoming a fish and chip shop. The London has been renovated and now does food...


There's certainly plenty of choice.

The London always used to do food until recently, but it was crap food.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 15, 2017, 07:08:49 pm
Right you are Fester, I think LC is looking for a more upmarket audience.

As for trying all the food places out... not even close! I've still not been to Lawtons, Romeos, Cambridge Mostyn, La Taverna, Osborne's... haven't been to The Gresham either since they overhauled their menu. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 16, 2017, 08:36:13 am
Makes you wonder how they can all make money if Llandudno really is going quieter year-on-year.  :o

Interestingly Llandudno is quieter this week, and will be for the next two. The pattern of traffic in the town seems to be tied (as you might expect) to school holidays. But it was very busy last week and the two weeks before, but A level results are out this week, which takes out the 18+ market and possibly their parents, and next week GCSE follow, after which they're all getting ready for a return to school. Traffic then seems to increase during September, as the childless, the child-avoiders and grandparents all head for a quieter break, then things fall off again until Easter. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 16, 2017, 10:11:50 am
Right you are Fester, I think LC is looking for a more upmarket audience.

As for trying all the food places out... not even close! I've still not been to Lawtons, Romeos, Cambridge Mostyn, La Taverna, Osborne's... haven't been to The Gresham either since they overhauled their menu.

Tom I see you haven't tried La Taverna in Church Walks yet. My advice, move it to the top of your list.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 16, 2017, 12:16:51 pm
Right you are Fester, I think LC is looking for a more upmarket audience.

As for trying all the food places out... not even close! I've still not been to Lawtons, Romeos, Cambridge Mostyn, La Taverna, Osborne's... haven't been to The Gresham either since they overhauled their menu.

Romeo's was good, but then they got complacent, started cutting corners and our last 2 visits were pretty poor.
Given all the great places to eat around here, it's very unlikely we'll ever go back.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on August 16, 2017, 01:13:08 pm
Fester, I do agree with you re Romeo's.  Friends and family used to enjoy going there but in the last year or so some favourites have disappeared off the menu, the prices are regularly "reviewed" (upwards!) and the quality of food has sadly declined. We now prefer to go to Tops or La Taverna instead.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on August 16, 2017, 01:41:17 pm
I've never been but I'm looking forward to going to Romeo's as it's one of the very few places in town with a decent vegetarian menu. By vegetarian I don't just mean the normal main course with the meat taken out, like some establishments seem to think is ok  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 22, 2017, 08:31:20 am
Saw this on Facebook, love it!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 31, 2017, 06:24:31 pm
Hollins, here's another place for you to try out and you and action man can have a go on the zip wire afterwards.     $good$


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzE2OTAwNjU0MTQmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9TEgzNzhSTHpmTWZBWVVWZ3JZZUxJdyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=31690065414&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgQ2hyb25pY2xl&d=685&t=3&k=36144&fi=119597&ac=&ck=36ba1d37ec3c8ae3e8b9339d0f642dff
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 31, 2017, 06:35:52 pm
Had a very mixed week of reports from guests.

Wildwood--not good
Wetherspoons--food ok, but many tables not cleared.
Snooze--good.
Empire-- The biggest Lamp Shink he had ever seen. 
The last one was a German couple.!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on August 31, 2017, 08:21:14 pm
Hollins, here's another place for you to try out and you and action man can have a go on the zip wire afterwards.     $good$



Thanks Hugo.
Not sure action man is too keen on the Zip Wire experience. I did ask him once but he winced when I told him the price! The friends of ours that stayed at the Harlech Castle apartments went on the Velocity ride and thought it was fantastic.
As far as the new restaurant is concerned maybe it will be a way of getting something different to eat because the skip menu is still largely unchanged. Bit further to travel to the new place though.
Let me know if you try it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 31, 2017, 10:28:23 pm
I may have a meal there in the future but there is no way on earth that I'll have a go on that zip wire.       I don't think the old ticker or the wallet could stand it.      ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2017, 08:53:00 am
We popped into Providero in Upper Mostyn Street yesterday for some coffee & cake. Coffee was very good, as was the cake, and a nice atmosphere in there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 01, 2017, 09:16:26 pm
We popped into Providero in Upper Mostyn Street yesterday for some coffee & cake. Coffee was very good, as was the cake, and a nice atmosphere in there.

Been in twice, and I think it's overrated and pretentious.
Tables full of people occupying them for an eternity, glued to their iPads, making no conversation.. and spending very little.
I'm probably too OLD for that particular place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 05, 2017, 10:06:08 am
Dinner at Johnny Dough's last night - absolutely spot on again and surprisingly busy for a Monday evening. The extension has been completed and the business looks to be thriving, great place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2017, 10:28:41 am
I'm probably too OLD for that particular place.
Yes.  8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on September 05, 2017, 12:18:41 pm
I'm probably too OLD.

YES  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2017, 06:30:31 pm
Kick a guy while he's down, you ageist pigs!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 11, 2017, 08:35:10 am
We visited Bryn Williams' restaurant at Porth Eirias on Sunday morning to try their cooked Welsh Breakfast. Not cheap (£7.95), but delicious! Great place to have breakfast and enjoy the view.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on September 11, 2017, 12:50:37 pm
That seems like ok value Dave, was it busy and di you have to make a reservation?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 11, 2017, 04:45:45 pm
We visited Bryn Williams' restaurant at Porth Eirias on Sunday morning to try their cooked Welsh Breakfast. Not cheap (£7.95), but delicious! Great place to have breakfast and enjoy the view.  $good$

I have just checked back to my previous post about the skip breakfast. It was £8.95 in May 2016.
That was the only time we have been for breakfast but we enjoyed it. I remember getting a lot of stick on here about paying that much for breakfast. Maybe they have reduced their prices.
Did it look similar to ours DaveR?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2017, 08:47:18 am
We visited Bryn Williams' restaurant at Porth Eirias on Sunday morning to try their cooked Welsh Breakfast. Not cheap (£7.95), but delicious! Great place to have breakfast and enjoy the view.  $good$

I have just checked back to my previous post about the skip breakfast. It was £8.95 in May 2016.
That was the only time we have been for breakfast but we enjoyed it. I remember getting a lot of stick on here about paying that much for breakfast. Maybe they have reduced their prices.
Did it look similar to ours DaveR?
Yes, apart from we had scrambled eggs. Lovely breakfast, with top quality ingredients. It is still £8.95, I just checked my bill. 2 breakfasts, plus coffees and orange juice came to £26.30. Nice for an occasional treat - I was saying to my partner that it would be fun to have breakfast there on a stormy Winter's morning.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 14, 2017, 05:54:53 pm
 I made a booking for the skip for lunch today but when the waiter came to take our order I thought that I had booked the wrong place because it was the lovely Italian waiter from Signatures who had moved to Porth Eirias 3 months ago.
I wish him well, a super professional and I should think a great loss to his previous employer.
Food was all delicious but still no change on the menu although my risotto was with vegetables instead of mushrooms today!   :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 14, 2017, 09:06:34 pm
Was he called Carlos by any chance?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 14, 2017, 10:16:50 pm
Sorry, I don't know his name.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SDQ on September 15, 2017, 10:40:25 am
Was he called Carlos by any chance?


Isn't Carlos a Spanish name?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on September 15, 2017, 11:17:43 am
I think Hugo is thinking of the Mexican waiter.
This is the waiter that has moved job.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on September 15, 2017, 11:54:24 am
Dont worry Hugo Carlo is still there it's Simone that has gone to the skip .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 15, 2017, 01:33:11 pm
Thanks Norman and Hollins.     $good$

I'm glad Carlos is still there as he was so helpful when I had a do there last year.    I'm sure that Simone will be missed as I remember him there too.
It was last July 30th when I saw you there Norman, you were just leaving as we were going into the restaurant.  Great food and location and we've been looking at the September menu.    I hope you are a member too as the offers are good.       

$dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 20, 2017, 01:34:31 pm
 Parisella's ice cream coming to Llandudno, ? ?   watch this space ! ! 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 20, 2017, 01:45:29 pm
Conwy ale trail on Saturday following by Johnny Doughs... what Saturdays are made for  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on September 20, 2017, 01:46:30 pm
Parisella's ice cream coming to Llandudno, ? ?   watch this space ! !

It's already available in Happy Valley isn't it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 20, 2017, 01:52:45 pm
Parisella's ice cream coming to Llandudno, ? ?   watch this space ! !
It's already available in Happy Valley isn't it?

I believe Carrie Parisella is thinking of opening a new venue in Llandudno, ?  ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 30, 2017, 12:19:58 pm
Interesting article, mentions good and bad reviews, and planned changes for the side bar, although good ideas, I wonder if this extension will rely on a further Tourism grant (discussed recently in "Points to ponder")

This is what Dylan's has planned next for Llandudno Washington site
Bosses are drawing up detailed plans for the next stage of their £1.5m project.

Restaurant chain Dylan’s is set to submit plans to convert the former side bar at the Washington site in Llandudno into an events space.
The brand’s third seafront restaurant opened in May and has attracted around 2,000 diners a week over the summer.
Director David Evans said there had been “good and bad” feedback from customers and the team were all focused was on ensuring consistency.

Over the next 12 months, the company plans to extend the events offering in Llandudno to include comedy and cinema nights, live music, salsa nights and tea dances.
There will also be a monthly local produce market and occasional in-house foodslam

Article and comments.... http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/what-dylans-planned-next-llandudno-13694794 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/what-dylans-planned-next-llandudno-13694794)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 02, 2017, 02:59:23 pm
The Cross Keys is currently closed and looks to be undergoing a major renovation. Long overdue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on October 02, 2017, 03:06:24 pm
The Cross Keys is our closest pub and I am hoping too it comes back refreshed and with a focus on real ales. Seems to be something that is lacking in Llandudno unfortunately. Hopefully, the planning permission for the micropub across the road from the Cross Keys gets the go ahead.  Z**

Had a very average meal on Saturday night with my family a The New Mediterranean Restaurant, Early in the evening the table next to us refused to pay their bill which was an omen. For the first time ever, I asked for a main meal to be removed from our bill because it was basically inedible. It seems to have a better reputation than this, perhaps they lost their chef recently. Either way, we won't be returning.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 02, 2017, 03:17:36 pm
I heard the Cross Keys is being refurbished into a Sports Bar, whatever that may entail.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 02, 2017, 03:31:54 pm
I'm game for either a sports bar or a real ale pub. Llandudno hasn't either so gap in the market as far as I see it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 02, 2017, 07:34:23 pm
I'm game for either a sports bar or a real ale pub. Llandudno hasn't either so gap in the market as far as I see it.

The 147 in Upper Mostyn Street is a Sports Bar Tom.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2017, 08:55:44 am
I'm game for either a sports bar or a real ale pub. Llandudno hasn't either so gap in the market as far as I see it.

The 147 in Upper Mostyn Street is a Sports Bar Tom.

The 147 used to be frequented by myself when I wanted to watch a live game but in the end I decided that their hygiene standards were so disgusting I wasn't prepared to put up with it anymore.If you can't get a seat and stand in the same spot for too long you are stuck to the carpet, tables are never wiped clean etc etc. That said I haven't stepped inside for about 3 years so things may have changed for the better.
I have tried various pubs and even Rhos Golf Club but none provide the place I'm looking for. For a recent 12.30 KO one place I have been to in the past didn't open until 1.00pm! I now watch BT at home, Sky at a friend's house which is comfortable but not the atmosphere of a bigger pub style venue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2017, 09:25:35 am
Dave, it seems to have changed a lot since I last went there.  &shake&
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2017, 11:51:23 am
I remember it as a snooker club and went a couple of times. A break to me consisted of 2 balls potted in succession!
Interesting dress code at the time, I wasn't aware of a dodgy element when we went! Maybe some people got really upset when they lost?!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 03, 2017, 03:46:49 pm
Club 147 is a bit of a hole though, terrible selection of beer, not a hint of sunlight, sticky floors.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2017, 03:55:29 pm
Club 147 is a bit of a hole though, terrible selection of beer, not a hint of sunlight, sticky floors.

Aha.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2017, 05:37:29 pm
Club 147 is a bit of a hole though, terrible selection of beer, not a hint of sunlight, sticky floors.

Hasn't changed then!! The screens aren't ( weren't) that clever either.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 03, 2017, 09:26:44 pm
Cross Keys renovation pics: https://twitter.com/DPTomDavidson/status/915310507682299904
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2017, 10:50:50 pm
The benches in the same place, the bar just the same.
I see some emulsion on the walks and a new laminate floor.
Not much investment there.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 04, 2017, 10:16:00 am
They have got rid of the crap darts team that used to play there...... $good$

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2017, 10:27:12 am
They have got rid of the crap darts team that used to play there...... $good$

We got rid of ourselves, 2 seasons ago!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2017, 10:43:47 am
This popular restaurant chain is now looking to come to North Wales
The rapidly expanding firm that owns the Botanist chain has its eye on the region.

The nearest Botanist restaurant is currently in Chester   http://thebotanist.uk.com/ (http://thebotanist.uk.com/) with Llandudno, Bangor and Wrexham under consideration for potential new sites.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/popular-restaurant-chain-now-looking-13728694 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/popular-restaurant-chain-now-looking-13728694)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2017, 09:07:06 am
We went to the LC Drink & Dine (the London pub in old money) in Upper Mostyn Street for Sunday lunch yesterday. £9 for the standard meal, choice of beef, turkey or lamb, plus all the usual trimmings. Very good quality and great value for the price.  $good$  $good$

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d12688740-Reviews-The_LC_Drink_Dine-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g190724-d12688740-Reviews-The_LC_Drink_Dine-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 09, 2017, 10:30:27 am
I'll have to try out the LC soon.


I popped into the Cross Keys in Llandudno for a drink on Saturday night. What can I say? They've laminated the floor, given it a lick of paint and put some more TVs in. Unfortunately there was still karaoke and no one seemed to care for the sports on the tellies. Very poor beer selection (mostly lagers) with just one hand pull (Doom Bar) which, on the positive side, only cost £2.

Not sure I'll be rushing back unless it's to watch the footy.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 10, 2017, 09:57:30 am
That is amazingly reasonable for a pint of Doom Bar. My only worry would be that I can't see the regular clientele drinking too many doom bars and it's likely to be sitting there for a long time.

I also saw they are doing free pool, free jukebox and having a live band every Friday night.

It's nice to see a pub, for a change, aiming for the local market rather than the 'golden calf' tourist ploy.

I hope they are succesful  Z**
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 10, 2017, 12:11:21 pm

It's nice to see a pub, for a change, aiming for the local market rather than the 'golden calf' tourist ploy.


I'm interested in your thoughts as to how a pub aims for the 'local market rather than the 'golden calf' ploy', surely a good pub has decent beer, is clean and welcoming to all, visitors and locals alike regardless of demographics of the clientele? Certainly, some pubs because of their location are more inclined to have either more visitors or locals as a customer base, but surely the basics are the same?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 10, 2017, 12:18:49 pm
Price. I don't know about you but if I'm holiday I'll happily spend between 50 and a 100 pound on a good meal and some drinks in a pub. However If I'm going to my local pub 3 or 4 times a week to play pool/darts, watch football, listen to a band etc I don't want to be paying £4 plus a pint and lord knows how much for spirits/soft drinks etc.

Also a 'local' pub has regulars and its own characters, feel and atmosphere. A revolving door 'tourist' pub is never going to have those things.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 10, 2017, 12:28:18 pm
Good points, and hard to disagree with the logic.

Have you read any of Pete Brown's books or writings?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 10, 2017, 12:38:37 pm
I have one of his books - one man walks into a pub, in my bookcase but haven't got around to reading it yet.
I like Bill Bryson and Tim Moore so hoping I will enjoy this book as well.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 10, 2017, 01:16:33 pm
Pete Brown is actually regarded as the 'Bill Bryson of beer' and his book 'Hops and Glory' is excellent, as is 'Three Sheets to the Wind'. 'Shakespear's Local' is leaning to the 'heavy' side, and probably more interesting if you're a Londoner.

'A Man Walks into a Pub' is possibly his best work.

Here's a question for you: Would the Albion in Conwy be so successful if it were on Mostyn Street? If not, why not? And, if it would be, why hasn't anyone done it?

           (I do have my own theory about this...)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 10, 2017, 01:27:26 pm
It's a good question. I dare say their biggest stumbling block would be Wetherspoons - both have no music and a good selection of beer. The Albion doesn't do food and for local drinking pubs in Llandudno you actually have a lot of competition compared to Conwy - i.e the Cross Keys, The Neville and The Kings Arms in spitting distance as well as the Snowdon not fair away. You also have three social clubs competing for local patronage.

I would edge towards the fence and say it would be a risky proposition.

What's your theory?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 10, 2017, 04:50:56 pm
I have watched the success that is the Albion over the past few years, and the refurbishment of most of Conwy pubs - not to mention the opening of a new one, The Bank, at a time when many pubs are closing. I have given the matter due consideration and several moments thought as to the difference between Conwy and Llandudno and my conclusion is the same as yours - price - but from a different angle. The local trade from the relatively affluent rural and semi-rural Conwy area are not so price oriented as 'ambience' oriented; they want a pleasant pub experience, not simply the cheapest. Plus, the average visitor to medieval Conwy is possibly rather different to the average Llandudno visitor, a walker, hiker, history buff or someone who appreciates the 'quaintness', and is prepared to pay for it. Many tourists are foreign and find the prices acceptable. They are, like you and I on holiday, prepared to pay for the nicities in life and the Albion is a bit like a working museum, a feeling of nostalgia for the wood floored pubs of 'Olde'. The boat owners from the marina are another source, and you don't own a boat and berth it in Conwy marina if you are in any way price concious. All of which differ from Llandudno, whose resident population and visitors are possibly far more price conscious, shall we say, and look at price first and quality second; ambience perhaps not of the importance that it possibly is to Conwy clientele. 

So, in all, we agree, sadly, the Albion business model might not work in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 10, 2017, 08:23:56 pm
I'll have to try out the LC soon.


I popped into the Cross Keys in Llandudno for a drink on Saturday night. What can I say? They've laminated the floor, given it a lick of paint and put some more TVs in. Unfortunately there was still karaoke and no one seemed to care for the sports on the tellies. Very poor beer selection (mostly lagers) with just one hand pull (Doom Bar) which, on the positive side, only cost £2.

Not sure I'll be rushing back unless it's to watch the footy.

I did warn you about this.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on October 11, 2017, 09:17:04 am
I have one of his books - one man walks into a pub, in my bookcase but haven't got around to reading it yet.
I like Bill Bryson and Tim Moore so hoping I will enjoy this book as well.
My fave Tim Moore book is You Are Awful (But I Like You), in which he visits the worst parts of Britain. Hilarious!

(https://d1w7fb2mkkr3kw.cloudfront.net/assets/images/book/lrg/9780/0995/9780099546931.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 11, 2017, 09:58:52 am
I've just finished reading that. Great book - poor old Anglesey sea zoo!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 11, 2017, 12:26:01 pm
My question for you Bosun then is, if a Wetherspoons were to pop up in Conwy would the Albion still be as successful?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on October 11, 2017, 01:32:40 pm
So, in all, we agree, sadly, the Albion business model might not work in Llandudno.

The Albions business model in Conwy isn't so clever either, as their expansion into the Bridge is now a thing of the past. After the sale is complete you will at least be able to get a good wood fired pizza there courtesy of Johnny Dough's  $dins$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 11, 2017, 01:49:10 pm
I've just finished reading that. Great book - poor old Anglesey sea zoo!

I nearly went in there once, but shied away... is it really as bad as that?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on October 11, 2017, 01:51:32 pm
So, in all, we agree, sadly, the Albion business model might not work in Llandudno.

The Albions business model in Conwy isn't so clever either, as their expansion into the Bridge is now a thing of the past. After the sale is complete you will at least be able to get a good wood fired pizza there courtesy of Johnny Dough's  $dins$
Might be more in that than a poor business model for a pub in Menai Bridge. There are possible people links between the two businesses as well and it might have been for other business reasons!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 11, 2017, 02:44:49 pm
I've just finished reading that. Great book - poor old Anglesey sea zoo!

I nearly went in there once, but shied away... is it really as bad as that?

I've only been when I was a kid - thought it was great then although I think I was more interested in the big park they had and the picnic food than any of the sea creatures!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 11, 2017, 04:22:37 pm
Llandudno chip restaurant has gone up for sale for more than £1m
The deal includes the long established chippie and accommodation space.
Tribells has been selling fish and chips in Llandudno for 80 years.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-chip-restaurant-gone-up-13747710 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-chip-restaurant-gone-up-13747710)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 11, 2017, 04:37:47 pm
1 million pounds???? You could buy at least 10 bags of chips from there for that kind of money  _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 11, 2017, 04:57:34 pm
So, in all, we agree, sadly, the Albion business model might not work in Llandudno.

The Albions business model in Conwy isn't so clever either, as their expansion into the Bridge is now a thing of the past. After the sale is complete you will at least be able to get a good wood fired pizza there courtesy of Johnny Dough's  $dins$

Actually, I don't remember the Bridge being mentioned at all. The discussion was about the Albion. Whilst the Bridge may have been owned by the consortium that own the Albion, it is a totally different buisness model and has not been referred to here.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 13, 2017, 04:14:08 pm
The benches in the same place, the bar just the same.
I see some emulsion on the walks and a new laminate floor.
Not much investment there.

According to the Pioneer this week - £50,000 was spent  :o

Have they been short changed?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 13, 2017, 06:30:22 pm
We had lunch at Home from Home Cooking at Penrhyn Bay today and enjoyed a Friday Special.   Fish chips and mushy peas with a salad garnish together with either a glass of wine or a bottle of beer.
At £10.00 per person it was very good value for money and the place was jam packed and other people waiting to go in.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on October 14, 2017, 04:13:20 pm
The benches in the same place, the bar just the same.
I see some emulsion on the walks and a new laminate floor.
Not much investment there.

According to the Pioneer this week - £50,000 was spent  :o

Have they been short changed?

I'm not sure that THOSE invoices would stand up to much scrutiny by HMRC.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on October 16, 2017, 09:11:06 am
I went Friday night and it was ....ok. The beer was much better than advertised on here being Guinness golden ale and Hobgoblin. They had a great band playing from Liverpool. Great jukebox, good pool tables and the screens looked good to me as well.
They posted a picture from Saturday showing the glory supporters derby and it looked packed so perhaps this will be the best place to watch live games going forward.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 26, 2017, 01:42:21 pm
Llandudno restaurant and cafe on the market for £1m

The deal also includes five apartments above the main street in the seaside resort.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-restaurant-cafe-market-1m-13791851 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-restaurant-cafe-market-1m-13791851)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on October 28, 2017, 05:26:50 am
Popped into the new Tapps in Madoc Street yesterday evening. Clean, fresh and simple with excellent beer, it's a nice refreshing and welcome change to Llandudno that deserves to do well.

The only downside was the bunch of 'hipster' clientele who thought it neccessary to converse by shouting at each other, oblivious to other customers.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on October 28, 2017, 11:29:35 am
You did well to get in Bosun, we called by at about 8 and the place was heaving. Its pretty small so chances are its going to be hard to get a table most of the time. hopefully it pushes the other pubs to lift their game but i suspect its too small to really hurt them,
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2017, 05:36:22 pm
The Plas Maenan Country House near Llanrwst has been bought-out with a new restaurant also opening at the site.

Owner Mark Richards said: “We have run the Manor Hotel in Llandudno for the last nine years but always had an eye on the Plas Maenan.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/conwy-valley-hotel-snapped-up-13896185 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/conwy-valley-hotel-snapped-up-13896185)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 13, 2017, 08:22:46 pm
It's a nice hotel in a lovely location and we used to pop in there now and again just for a coffee and sit outside and enjoy the views.  Hope that we can still do something like that under the new ownership.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 14, 2017, 07:26:26 am
You did well to get in Bosun, we called by at about 8 and the place was heaving. Its pretty small so chances are its going to be hard to get a table most of the time. hopefully it pushes the other pubs to lift their game but i suspect its too small to really hurt them,

Called in to Tapps at the weekend to see how it was after all the opening hype had died down. In short, excellent. Nice atmosphere, friendly staff and superb beer.

I agree mondie, I don't think it will hurt other pubs, but it will certainly raise an eyebrow and make a few think. It can only be a good thing.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on November 14, 2017, 11:59:30 am
Tapps is a great place but I will have to grow a beard to fit in :D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 14, 2017, 12:21:22 pm
Tapps is a great place but I will have to grow a beard to fit in :D

.....and to communicate, shout loudly at your companions who are 8" away from you whilst they shout back.....
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2017, 09:09:28 am
We decided to go out for dinner on Saturday night and, on a whim, chose Tiffanys. It was great! We had the steak and really enjoyed it, along with a nice Merlot. Very glad we went there, made a nice change from the usual haunts.  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on November 22, 2017, 10:21:50 am
With friends, all curry fiends, we ate at the Jalsa Indian in Conwy last night and (again) had a superb meal. The owner is a lovely chap and you can see through to kitchen from the restaurant and the food being cooked. The kitchen is a work of art, all lined with stainless steel and immaculate. 

It's gaining an excellent reputation, and deservedly so.

P.S. Johnny Dough's hopes to open in the Bridge in Conwy in February. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 29, 2017, 08:35:25 am
Not sure they'll be winning any customer service awards soon

https://ryankonky.com/abusive-staff-from-old-station-hotel-llandudno-show-how-not-to-respond-to-negative-customer-reviews/ (https://ryankonky.com/abusive-staff-from-old-station-hotel-llandudno-show-how-not-to-respond-to-negative-customer-reviews/)

The original review on facebook is a horror show in the comments

https://www.facebook.com/pg/theoldstationhoteljunction/reviews/ (https://www.facebook.com/pg/theoldstationhoteljunction/reviews/)

 ££$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 29, 2017, 10:29:36 am
The Facebook one appears to have been removed. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 29, 2017, 10:37:34 am
Yes they've taken their whole facebook page down! Damage control but a little bit too late I think  :o
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 29, 2017, 10:39:00 am
Not before it made the post though

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/chefs-surprise-response-family-complained-13964778 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/chefs-surprise-response-family-complained-13964778)

Wouldn't be surprised if the nationals picked it up. The Daily Mail loves stories like this.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 29, 2017, 01:47:29 pm
It's a difficult one, that. It does portray just how nasty social media users can get when there's no control on their outpourings (and the chef really did himself no favours - from the photo he seems to bite his fingernails...) but as we all know some people can be extremely demanding and very unpleasant and we don't know how the party itself behaved. No one comes out of it looking good, though.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on November 30, 2017, 08:40:10 am
Agreed but going on social media - especially the official page of the restaurant was an extremely stupid thing to do.
I remember I did "Social media training" about 10 years ago and we warned back then what should/shouldn't be posted even on our personal pages.

The other stupid and potentially illegal thing was after the mother said her son was Autistic the employee said "Take him somewhere else then"

If they keep their jobs I'll be amazed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on November 30, 2017, 09:45:52 am
Agreed. Human stupidity seems to know no bounds.  It's astonishing just how much can be gleaned about people from their the use of social media. User os LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter etc. seem to think it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bosun on December 12, 2017, 11:58:41 am
I have watched the success that is the Albion over the past few years, and the refurbishment of most of Conwy pubs - not to mention the opening of a new one, The Bank, at a time when many pubs are closing. I have given the matter due consideration and several moments thought as to the difference between Conwy and Llandudno and my conclusion is the same as yours - price - but from a different angle. The local trade from the relatively affluent rural and semi-rural Conwy area are not so price oriented as 'ambience' oriented; they want a pleasant pub experience, not simply the cheapest. Plus, the average visitor to medieval Conwy is possibly rather different to the average Llandudno visitor, a walker, hiker, history buff or someone who appreciates the 'quaintness', and is prepared to pay for it. Many tourists are foreign and find the prices acceptable. They are, like you and I on holiday, prepared to pay for the nicities in life and the Albion is a bit like a working museum, a feeling of nostalgia for the wood floored pubs of 'Olde'. The boat owners from the marina are another source, and you don't own a boat and berth it in Conwy marina if you are in any way price concious. All of which differ from Llandudno, whose resident population and visitors are possibly far more price conscious, shall we say, and look at price first and quality second; ambience perhaps not of the importance that it possibly is to Conwy clientele. 

So, in all, we agree, sadly, the Albion business model might not work in Llandudno.

This is a complete rarity, and I type through gritted teeth, but, I have to admit it, something that doesn't happen very often, but it does seem that I might be, oh alright, I admit it, I was wrong.

It appears that the Albion business model has worked in Llandudno.     I'm pleased to see that Tapps is a great success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2017, 11:43:45 pm
We decided to go out for dinner on Saturday night and, on a whim, chose Tiffanys. It was great! We had the steak and really enjoyed it, along with a nice Merlot. Very glad we went there, made a nice change from the usual haunts.  $good$

Being retired, (or kind of), it’s given us chance to pop in to many of the local places that I’ve never tried before.
So for lunch today, we tried Tiffany’s.   I can’t believe that we’ve never set foot in there, it’s just one of those things.
The menu is limited to say the least, and I had to choose lasagne, because everything else looked even more bland than that!   
It was adequate I suppose,  for £8.95 it was probably as good as a supermarket one at say £1.99.
I realise you pay for the surroundings, a bit of side salad etc... but Ho hum was my verdict.

Mrs F got the spinach and pesto pizza, which she thoroughly enjoyed.
I have to say the coffee was excellent to be fair.

It was ok I suppose.... worth a try, but I won’t be rushing back.





Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2017, 03:00:26 pm
I read this article online earlier today and found it so refreshing and it restores your faith in human nature.  I seem to remember something similar going on in either Colwyn Bay or Llandudno last year




http://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=118229 (http://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=118229)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on December 21, 2017, 06:46:32 pm
Yes Hugo last year the young couple who have the chippy opened their doors for the homeless on Boxing Day , how many do you reckon took the offer up ?? ,this year the troops cafe on Mostyn broadway are doing the same lets see how many turn up .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2017, 07:05:03 pm
Thanks Norman, I seem to remember it now that you've mentioned the chippy.  Which chippy was it?

It's a nice gesture to make at this time of the year.    $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on December 21, 2017, 08:40:19 pm
Yes the young couple who own the chippy in Victoria st Craig y don give up their family day and not one turned up ,hope this year they have more success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2017, 10:52:20 pm
Thanks Norman,  it was still a lovely gesture of the couple to make that offer.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on December 22, 2017, 12:16:47 pm
Yes Hugo last year the young couple who have the chippy opened their doors for the homeless on Boxing Day , how many do you reckon took the offer up ?? ,this year the troops cafe on Mostyn broadway are doing the same lets see how many turn up .

The majority of the homeless community in Llandudno were at the Hope Restored Christmas dinner as they are every year and all year round where hope restored look after them. If you want to do a gesture for the homeless donate some money to the charity, not just at Christmas but at any time of the year. Llandudno does have an ever increasing problem with homelessness but not enough(thankfully) to facilitate a chippy needing to be open all day for them.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 22, 2017, 05:12:36 pm
Yes Hugo last year the young couple who have the chippy opened their doors for the homeless on Boxing Day , how many do you reckon took the offer up ?? ,this year the troops cafe on Mostyn broadway are doing the same lets see how many turn up .

The majority of the homeless community in Llandudno were at the Hope Restored Christmas dinner as they are every year and all year round where hope restored look after them. If you want to do a gesture for the homeless donate some money to the charity, not just at Christmas but at any time of the year. Llandudno does have an ever increasing problem with homelessness but not enough(thankfully) to facilitate a chippy needing to be open all day for them.

Thanks BTR  for posting that piece about Hope Restored, I've just read about it and Brenda and her team are quite remarkable people doing a fantastic job and deserve all the support people can give.    Like you say these vulnerable people need support all year round not just at Christmas, as do some people living on their own hence the gesture by the Ladies from Barmouth. 

http://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=118229 (http://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=118229)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on December 24, 2017, 11:41:43 am
There is a concert to raise money for hope restored at venue cymru in February there’s been a few of these in the past and despite the music always being fantastic attendances haven’t been great. Hopefully this one will get a few more people. The TVW stock on the prom August bank holiday did really well and raised a lot of money for hope restored.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 24, 2017, 12:06:58 pm
I hope that the event is well supported because Brenda and and all the volunteers do need the finances so that they can continue their good work.
Reading about the good work that Hope Restored has done reminded me of a TV programme about Sister Rita, affectionately called  "Attilla the Nun"  who was doing a similar thing in the deprived areas of Manchester.


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2018, 10:40:27 am
The Haulfre Gardens tearoom is up for sale.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on January 18, 2018, 12:08:08 pm
Here is the link for the concert in Venue Cymru on February 11th to support Hope Restored

http://tvwales.co.uk/next-level.html (http://tvwales.co.uk/next-level.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on January 20, 2018, 11:41:50 am
The Haulfre Gardens tearoom is up for sale.
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 20, 2018, 02:07:47 pm
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71036240.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71036240.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 20, 2018, 10:00:09 pm
I’m tempted to buy it, and shut it down... just to annoy the ignorant dog owners who make up 95% of the clientele.

When I’m sat trying to have a nice relaxing coffee, taking in the vista, and you’ve got Bonzo, Fido et al, jumping up at me or closing in on me, slobbering expectantly for some food..... No, I don’t think they’re lovely and cute, and no I don’t care if they’re just playing, or saying ‘hello’

Keep the damn things under control, thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Quiggs on January 21, 2018, 12:23:37 am
Down Boy, Down   _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on January 21, 2018, 02:23:38 pm
I’m tempted to buy it, and shut it down... just to annoy the ignorant dog owners who make up 95% of the clientele.

When I’m sat trying to have a nice relaxing coffee, taking in the vista, and you’ve got Bonzo, Fido et al, jumping up at me or closing in on me, slobbering expectantly for some food..... No, I don’t think they’re lovely and cute, and no I don’t care if they’re just playing, or saying ‘hello’

Keep the damn things under control, thanks in advance.


 *punch* *punch*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 21, 2018, 05:47:09 pm
I had one of their "Fishy Friday Specials" at Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay and really enjoyed it.    Fish, chips, mushy peas and a salad garnish plus either a glass of wine or bottle of lager and it was a delicious meal for £10.00    I'm not surprised that the place was packed         $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 22, 2018, 01:28:40 pm
Thinking of your ten pound meal, Hugo, check this out for a shocker.......

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42772609 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42772609)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 22, 2018, 02:17:50 pm
That's a shocker Steve         :o         I wonder if there were any other customers were there at the time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 23, 2018, 11:12:30 am
Thinking of your ten pound meal, Hugo, check this out for a shocker.......

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42772609 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42772609)

Definitely out of my league Steve, but I'll mention it to Tellytubby and Rhuddlan who might like to dine there on one of their many continental holidays.
More in my league is the Valentine evening at Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay.     A three course meal plus a glass of fizz on arrival and at £24.99 it's well worth it.     I've already  booked my table today so I can post the menu on here now.      ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 30, 2018, 01:21:15 pm
An historic inn that re-opened after a £1m redevelopment in 2016 will undergo a minor revamp to relaunch itself as a “gastro pub”.
The Tal-y-Cafn in the Conwy Valley was shut for six years after closing in 2010.
But after a six figure renovation by Castell Developments the site re-opened 18 months ago.
It enjoyed a stunning start with diners flocking to the inn but over time some of that trade fell away.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/1m-revamped-pub-close-again-14218698 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/1m-revamped-pub-close-again-14218698)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on February 01, 2018, 10:54:42 am
An historic inn that re-opened after a £1m redevelopment in 2016 will undergo a minor revamp to relaunch itself as a “gastro pub”.
The Tal-y-Cafn in the Conwy Valley was shut for six years after closing in 2010.
But after a six figure renovation by Castell Developments the site re-opened 18 months ago.
It enjoyed a stunning start with diners flocking to the inn but over time some of that trade fell away.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/1m-revamped-pub-close-again-14218698 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/1m-revamped-pub-close-again-14218698)
At the start, they were happily turning away customers. Perhaps they should have been more accommodating then?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Giggly girl on February 01, 2018, 06:52:53 pm
I would use the Tal y Cafn more is they reinstated the childrens play area, that was something popular back in the day, it is dangerous for little ones there now with all the stones.

Home from Home, not a very romantic setting In my humble opinion.  Him indoors would not be popular if he chose there for our meal.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 01, 2018, 10:35:41 pm
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Home from Home, not a very romantic setting In my humble opinion.  Him indoors would not be popular if he chose there for our meal.


So where would you recommend for that very romantic setting then?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 08, 2018, 12:50:11 pm
McDonald's demolition and restaurant relocation set for go-ahead
Officers have given their verdict on the plan for two new restaurants.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mcdonalds-llandudno-restaurant-mostyn-champneys-14262531 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mcdonalds-llandudno-restaurant-mostyn-champneys-14262531)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2018, 03:19:09 pm
Chip fryer fire at the Lemon Tree cafe, mostly smoke damage.    Ref DP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on March 06, 2018, 01:26:50 pm
A big thanks to Hugo for recommending the Toad.
We enjoyed the fish and chips there yesterday.
I had the "mini" portion £6 (see photo) and Mr H had the large £11.95. Mr H thought the Brakspear ale was delicious.
The service was friendly and efficient and the owner took the trouble to explain to us how the previous owner had made the quirky interior based on Toad of Toad Hall.
It was a bit grey yesterday but still nice to have the sea view.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2018, 03:00:14 pm
I'm pleased that you enjoyed your meal at the Toad, we normally have  the Stir fried chicken in ginger, garlic, mixed peppers & sweet chilli sauce for £6.00 Served with wild rice or hand cut chips but we ask for "half and half" and get both the rice and chips      ;D
When we go there in the evenings we ask for the window seats, there is one in the bar area and a big round one in the other room and then we  can enjoy the sea views while we are eating.
Those steps are steep, no problem for Mr H  but maybe for the elderly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 06, 2018, 03:23:31 pm
The Toad is one of the gems of the area and has been, for a long time.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2018, 03:34:15 pm
To be fair to the Toad they have had a lot of problems to face in the past with the development of the apartments either side and last year's prom fiasco so they deserve to succeed.
   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 08, 2018, 04:06:15 pm
The old snack bar in Madoc St. is being stripped out, no clues as to what they intend.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2018, 07:16:43 pm
I was back at the Toad in Colwyn Bay today and enjoyed the £6.00 lunch.   Mrs H and I had the stir fried chicken in ginger, garlic, mixed peppers and sweet chilli sauce with chips and wild rice and it was delicious.
I must have been concentrating too much on my food when I've been there previously but this time I did notice all the things that were shown in Hollins'  recent quiz question.      ;D 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 16, 2018, 04:01:35 pm
After complaining that the menu at the skip didn't change often enough I think it is only fair to say that they now do a weekly changing lunch menu. Really good value at £16 for 2 courses and £20 for 3.
I have had two different ones now and both were excellent. Today's was crispy cod with spring greens and crab bisque followed by raspberry bakewell tart.
The new one starts each Monday.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 21, 2018, 04:45:20 pm
National chain Costa Coffee wants a new cafe on a Llandudno retail park.

Mostyn Champneys' owner Hercules Unit Trust(HUT) has submitted plans for a large Costa Coffee cafe close to TK Maxx.

The planning report claimed the cafe would not take away trade from other cafes and would instead meet 'latent demand' from shoppers using Mostyn Champneys.

Fast food chain McDonald’s has already been given the go-ahead to demolish its restaurant in in Mostyn Champneys and relocate to a new two storey site next to the Iceland store.

There are plans for another restaurant chain to come to the existing McDonald's site.  ref DP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on May 21, 2018, 05:42:38 pm
This week's menu at the skip already tried and tested! Delicious and great value.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on May 21, 2018, 08:52:16 pm
This week's menu at the skip already tried and tested! Delicious and great value.

As you like fine dining Hollins, may I recommend: the Cae Mor Seafront Hotel Llandudno at 6 Penrhyn Crescent Llandudno LL30 1BA

An airy hotel offering fine dining with parking.

01492 878101
caemorhotel.co.uk
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 10, 2018, 06:28:12 pm
We had Sunday lunch today at the Plas Maenan Hotel and it was the first time that we had been there since the new management took over.
We had a drink on the verandah first of all and enjoyed the panoramic views before the meal.   We both had Roast Beef and Cherry Trifle in the dining room and it was one of the nicest Sunday Lunches that we have ever had and the service was excellent too.
I can see us going back there again very soon
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 10, 2018, 07:09:13 pm
It sounds lovely, Hugo.

Although, I must confess I had to google ‘crostinies’.  :)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on June 10, 2018, 09:28:25 pm
Went to the beach cafe penrhyn bay yesterday family afternoon tea well recommend it , sit on one of the garden tables watch the world go by .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 10, 2018, 10:29:49 pm
Went to the beach cafe penrhyn bay yesterday family afternoon tea well recommend it , sit on one of the garden tables watch the world go by .

Mrs H went there last week with a friend and really enjoyed her meal and everyone I have spoken to who has been there said the same
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on June 12, 2018, 02:41:03 pm
Went to the beach cafe penrhyn bay yesterday family afternoon tea well recommend it , sit on one of the garden tables watch the world go by .

I’ve never heard of it, sounds like one to seek out!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 12, 2018, 02:45:01 pm
Went to the beach cafe penrhyn bay yesterday family afternoon tea well recommend it , sit on one of the garden tables watch the world go by .

I’ve never heard of it, sounds like one to seek out!

It's in Glan Y Mor road Fester opposite the breakwater.   I'm going to try it myself asap
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on June 12, 2018, 04:18:57 pm
I took my mum to the Dinorben Arms today. Another lovely meal.
Yes Hugo, the well is still there as is the original room at the back which I took a photo of for those of you who remember it in the old days.
The bar man told me it has been open now for one year and two months since the refurbishment..
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 12, 2018, 04:38:46 pm
Thanks Hollins, you've brought some nice memories back to me about the place
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 30, 2018, 05:04:00 pm
I went to the Beach Cafe in Penrhyn Bay for the first time this afternoon and had a delicious Tuna and cheese toastie and a pot of tea. The place is spotless and the staff excellent.
I had heard some very good reports about the place before and after going there today, I can see why it was so highly rated.     Next time I might have the afternoon tea just like my cousin Norman did recently, it sounds very tempting indeed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on June 30, 2018, 10:41:37 pm
Glad you enjoyed it fab weather to sit there taking the sites in , you won't be disappointed with the afternoon tea .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 03, 2018, 11:47:12 am
Poco Coffee appears to have gone bust despite a recent merger with the Coal Shack.

* Ian, can you please rotate?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on July 03, 2018, 01:42:37 pm
Time Cafe Bar Castle Street Conwy is up for sale, the owners have moved on to Plas Maenan.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2018, 08:58:27 pm
I’m personally glad that the Coal Shack has gone.
Despite glossy promotional stuff and attractive prices, it was terrible when I visited recently.
Why oh why can’t places who base their business on burgers actually deliver a decent quality burger ?
I’ve seen it time and again, especially during the Extravaganza, where local businesses churn out fairground quality burgers and charge way over the odds for them.

It’s just pure greed.

Edwards of Conwy would supply them a burger that they would be proud to sell, for only a few pence more than the cheap crappy ones.
It’s just self defeating behaviour, and terrible business sense.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: squigglev2 on July 05, 2018, 02:23:52 am
I don’t know how it does now as we don’t get out often that way and it’s changed hands a while back but there was a lay-by stop on the Holt road not to far from me that did a roaring trade and had an excellent local reputation. He may have done similar with other things but I know he sourced his burgers from a local butcher.   As far as I can see, it can work well even for something like a road pull in.

(Although I live with 2 non meat eaters and I am as likely to take a veg option [but not egg – shame as we  kept hens a few times but I’ll only eat egg  in cooking, eg. in a cake] myself, but parents also reckoned his omelettes were superb so maybe he used free range eggs...)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 06, 2018, 08:01:32 pm
Poco Coffee appears to have gone bust despite a recent merger with the Coal Shack.

The Cambridge Restaurant has also been repossessed by its landlord and this is summer !!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 06, 2018, 10:51:20 pm
I foresee many others going the same way Bri.
I’m hearing, and seeing for myself that the season is once again getting ever shorter,  and within that, the trading day is getting shorter.
It’s a phenomenon I mentioned 2 or 3 years ago, and it seems to be accelerating.

Some bars in Llandudno no longer open on Mondays at all..., and of those who do, most open from teatime only.
Last night we were around town, and The (new) Belmont was entirely empty, as was Gresham.
The ludicrously overpriced Snooze had about 8 tables full of customers.
Fountains had a live band on stage.... and not a soul in the bar to listen to them.
The only relatively busy bar was The Irish Bar.  He has the sun until late evening, and keeps his prices sensible.
It’s a mean old scene out there,  but quality and price will still get patronage, as evidenced by the queue outside Home Cooking, right up to closing time.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2018, 06:57:38 pm
It sounds lovely, Hugo.

Although, I must confess I had to google ‘crostinies’.  :)

After having had such a delicious meal at Plas Maenan we decided to go back again for Sunday lunch.  We sat on the balcony and had drinks as we did before and the waiter brought the menu to us to select our meal.  There was no set menu for Sunday lunch so I went inside to see if there was another menu but was told that there wasn't another menu as some guests had said that it was too hot for a three course meal so the set menu was withdrawn but will be reinstated in September!
Other guests had also been looking forward to the set course but unlike us they decided to have a drink and  go without ordering any food.   With no roast beef on the menu we ordered something else but it'll be a while before we venture back again because of other things that happened today
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 05, 2018, 07:57:27 pm
How disappointing, Hugo?

I hope you suggested they amend their website for Sunday Lunch 12-5pm.


http://www.plas-maenan-hotel.co.uk/dining.php (http://www.plas-maenan-hotel.co.uk/dining.php)


http://www.plas-maenan-hotel.co.uk/dining-sunday-lunch.php (http://www.plas-maenan-hotel.co.uk/dining-sunday-lunch.php)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2018, 10:21:02 pm
It was disappointing Bri, especially after our last visit there.     I just hope that our experience today was just a blip as the place has so much potential.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 13, 2018, 12:41:44 pm
Plans are in for a new micro-pub.
Dave Guinn opened his first small drinking spot in the town last October with the launch of TAPPS on Madoc Street.
This has proved a major success with drinkers which has encouraged Mr Guinn to propose opening a second site.

He wants to convert a former osteopathy premises in Craig-y-Don into a bar - called The Ascot Taproom,A planning application has been submitted to Conwy council
 “We feel this will offer Craig-y-Doin something new, which is presently lacking, we wish it to be an enjoyable venue for all ages to enjoy local products.”    REF DP

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Edith Perry on September 26, 2018, 04:24:49 am
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere (I looked but couldn't see it), but this is what the owners plan to do with the West Shore Beach Cafe, if they can get the permission.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SxMyvnf6/1_Plans-to-redevelop-_West-_Shore-_Cafe-in-_Llandudno-_Plans-submitte.jpg)

As I'm always complaining about irresponsible developments, I'm glad to say that I think this would make a very nice addition to the area, improving upon the current structure, and surroundings greatly. A selfish part of me actually really likes the underdevelopment of the West Shore, not wanting it to get too popular! But they've obviously put a lot of heart and soul into the project, and unlike some I could mention, they seem to have excellent taste, and a design that really does look like it will drastically improve upon the current structure.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 26, 2018, 07:37:26 am
Thanks for posting that design Edith, it looks good and I hope that the owners can get the go ahead.     With the West Shore you will never get it developed while they still have the sand problem that has been created by the Council but luckily for the cafe it is not in the area that has been adversely affected by the sand.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on September 26, 2018, 09:19:58 am
Now let's see what happens here with our council 🤔 Sitting outside there watching the sunsets  food and a glass of wine 🌞 No better place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on September 28, 2018, 08:15:34 am
I think the plans are amazing , this of course is rented off the Council.
In the case for transparency I hope the council know what they are doing with a fair lease and a fair rent, it works both ways.
Why in any case does the council keep hold of such assets?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 28, 2018, 05:54:23 pm
A North Wales restaurant has been given an award from the world's most famous food guide.

Every year the Michelin Guide celebrates restaurants all across the country with Bib Gourmand awards.
Named after Bibendum - the Michelin Man - the award highlights establishments which offer " good quality, good value cooking ".The 2019 awards bring 27 new restaurants to the foodies' bible which now includes a total of 143 - including one from North Wales for the first time ever.
The restaurant is none other than Bryn Williams at Porth Eirias, Colwyn Bay - described as a "striking beachside brasserie" by Michelin.   ref DP

See what happens when you marry a Glasgow girl...........  ;)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2018, 04:22:41 pm
Poco Coffee appears to have gone bust despite a recent merger with the Coal Shack.

The old Poco site..........Hopefully the new owners will have better success with " The Loaf Coffee & Sandwich Bar" ,  they are already in Colwyn Bay and making a good impression according to reports .
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 20, 2018, 11:28:48 am
Interesting article on Dylan's    talking about the challenges faced with the Llandudno restaurant, recruitment and the hike in business rates.
And the recruitment solution idea "They are also looking to a new potential source of talent, HMP Berwyn in Wrexham.
He said that the prison should be seen as a resource with a potential workforce there that could help address the recruitment problem.

"Unlike Menai Bridge and Criccieth it did not enjoy instant success but David said that they are now establishing themselves in the town.
He said: "Llandudno has been a challenge but it is contributing now and we have a good young kitchen team in place there.
"It had been a slow burner compared to other sites.
We were also hit with a 500% increase in rates which doesn't help."
www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-boss-talks-recruitment-llandudno-15304691 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/dylans-boss-talks-recruitment-llandudno-15304691)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on October 20, 2018, 12:53:14 pm
how has 500% just appeared
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on October 20, 2018, 01:26:54 pm
That has to be a misprint.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 26, 2018, 06:20:05 pm
The sea was pretty rough today by the Beach Cafe in Penrhyn Bay.       No wonder there was no one eating outside today!       ;D
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 04, 2018, 09:12:34 pm
Nice to see Tiffanys basement bar opening as a Jazz bar,town is crying out for something different
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2018, 10:15:07 am
That has to be a misprint.
I assume a VOA revaluation of the premises rateable value occurred.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on November 13, 2018, 03:31:40 pm
That has to be a misprint.
I assume a VOA revaluation of the premises rateable value occurred.

Washington Hotel, East Parade, Llandudno, LL30 1BE
Local authority reference 165027900053
Description Rateable value
Current valuation
Public house and premises £105,000 25 May 2017
Other valuations
Public house and premises £21,250 1 April 2017

Public house and premises £23,750 1 April 2010

Public house and premises £50,500 1 April 2010
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on November 13, 2018, 05:17:32 pm
nice new cafe at 14 Clonmel st
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2018, 04:41:20 pm
On Monday when we went out for lunch, a friend of my wife's had been to Fryday's  Fish and Chip shop in Penrhyn Bay and highly recommended it for the Senior Citizens special, so today we decided to give it a try.
We drove there and parked at the back of the cafe and went inside for the meal and found it was just as nice as we had been told it was.   It was a delicious meal finished off with a good choice of various Parisells'a ice creams and the lady who served the meal was extremely pleasant and friendly so it was a very enjoyable experience.
The cafe is closed over Christmas but opens again on the 7th January 2019 but we'll be back there again soon after it reopens


SENIOR CITIZEN SPECIALS
MONDAY-FRIDAY ONLY
(excluding bank holidays)
Fish, Chips and peas served with Homemade
Tartare Sauce & Lemon Wedge & bread & butter
PLUS a pot of tea for one
or coffee
and a Parisella's ice cream     £7.20
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 18, 2019, 10:41:19 am
Has anyone seen the planning application for the Neville, wanting to do 19 apartments.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: born2run on January 18, 2019, 12:37:59 pm
Is that yet another pub closing then?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on January 18, 2019, 04:05:11 pm
I have just had a look at the application Norman and if you want to see it, go on to Conwy County Borough Council Planning Site & it's Reference No 0/45869. They have photomontages of what it will look like and I think it looks very good indeed. They are doubling the size with an extension in the car park at the back & it's for 20 apartments. The applicant are PJ, NN & AM Jones & the owner of the site is Mr P Lloyd.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on January 18, 2019, 05:26:56 pm
Yes Meleri I've seen the plans and pics it looks very good must admit, they must be digging deep to have car parking, I was the First /second person in there when the family opened it 😢.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 22, 2019, 01:33:23 pm
The Pioneer's article on the Nevill...........

The Nevill, located across the road from the Llandudno train station, which currently consists of a ground floor pub, owner accommodation above and a car park to the side is set to be redeveloped into 20 "high quality" residential apartments.

Landlord Peter Jones has run The Nevill for more than 33 years but has decided to retire and following no interest in anyone wanting to take on the business he decided for the redevelopment option.

Matthew Jones Architects have now taken on the project for the new redevelopment and plans have been submitted to the council with a decision expected early this year.

Matthew Jones, director of Matthew Jones Architects in Deganwy, said: "We are really pleased to help with this exciting project.

"The building is ideally located in the centre of town, right opposite the train station, and whilst the loss of the pub is regrettable, this residential conversion will give the building and locality a new lease of life.

"Whilst preserving the traditional Victorian Architecture, we have designed a new modern ‘extension’ that respects the traditional building and conservation area."
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Pendragon on January 22, 2019, 02:23:43 pm
It's a shame it's closing the Neville is a good pub, had many good times in there with Pete. Needs must I suppose its a big building the overheads must be enormous and let's be honest the pub game is not what it was. There's countless Hotels, B and Bs, Travel lodge etc so residential apartments are the best way to go. I think Petes made the best decision. Still the pub will be missed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2019, 05:13:48 pm
We went out for lunch today and it was back to Fryday's in Penrhyn Bay where we had the senior citizen special.  Cod, Chips and peas served with Homemade Tartare Sauce & Lemon Wedge, bread and butter plus a pot of tea and an ice cream.
We both chose the Parisella's Cherry and Almond ice cream
The food was delicious and the batter on the fish was the best my wife has tasted.    Apart from really great value at £7.20 the atmosphere there is very friendly and the waitresses there were excellent
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on January 26, 2019, 12:23:31 pm
Pete from The Nevill is obtaining the permissions to build those apartments yes, but up to now he hasn’t got a developer to take it on.
Yes, he is planning to sell up and go ahead, and he’s been very open and honest with his customers and various darts and pool teams about it.
He’s spent a fortune thus far on his designs and applications, and has done a very good job of it.
However, I reckon the pub will still be there for a year or so, at least.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2019, 03:04:54 pm
We had the cooked breakfast at the Olive Grove in Deganwy this morning. Not the cheapest but very good quality.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on January 26, 2019, 03:37:45 pm
Yes we walk along from Westshore a couple of times a week to visit The Olive tree at Deganwy
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on February 08, 2019, 08:53:11 am
Got to try Taylors cafe opposite the town hall on the corner breakfasts are brillian! Great value for money and they let dogs in sneaky walk on a Sunday morning and a belly buster breakfast mmmmmm
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 08, 2019, 04:34:49 pm
Got to try Taylors cafe opposite the town hall on the corner breakfasts are brillian! Great value for money and they let dogs in sneaky walk on a Sunday morning and a belly buster breakfast mmmmmm

Any food place that lets dogs in is one to devoutly avoid I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 09, 2019, 08:45:12 am
It's a highly contentious issue. Some owners believe they'll miss out on custom if devoted owners can't bring their dogs in, as some owners can't bear to be parted from their dogs. Others, however, feel that many folk instinctively mistrust restaurants that permit dogs inside.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: dingo20 on February 16, 2019, 09:58:41 am
Why would allowing dogs in to a cafe put you off going in?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on February 16, 2019, 11:49:35 am
Not everyone wants to share a confined space with someone else's beloved pet that they seem to think has equal status to humans. Some dogs are well behaved, fully trained ,beautifully groomed and might well be acceptable. Some however won't be, they'll smell doggy, particularly on  a wet day, they'll shed hair which will end up who knows where and they will slobber at the sight of food and might even shake their heads and send slobber flying everywhere.
That's why it's best to just say "No dogs allowed".
On the other hand, a warning sign clearly stating dogs are allowed gives those who don't want to share their space with our canine friends the chance to look for an alternative elsewhere.
The cafe owner can decide which gives them the best business opportunities.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 16, 2019, 01:56:24 pm
Correct Dave,  but there are too many Dog Friendly cafes now.
I’m going to open an openly Dog Hostile Cafe,  I think I’ll do well.
Case in point, I was in Cafe Nero yesterday with Dave R,  and the quiet looking Mutt laid at the side of the table next to me, stood up and shook itself.
The sun streaming through the window clearly exposed the cloud of dust and hairs which cascaded all around as a result.
Why should I have to inhale all that crap?
It’s incredibly unhygienic to let dogs into any place serving food and drink.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 16, 2019, 03:04:40 pm
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On the other hand, a warning sign clearly stating dogs are allowed gives those who don't want to share their space with our canine friends the chance to look for an alternative elsewhere.
The cafe owner can decide which gives them the best business opportunities.

You are right Dave, when you pay good money for a meal or even just a coffee, you want to enjoy it and be comfortable in the surroundings and not be distracted by other things.
I do own a dog but I never take him with me when I am going somewhere for a meal,  that's only my choice but I can also see other peoples point of view.
I took a couple of friends out for an evening meal and the restaurant was really nice and the food was delicious and very reasonably priced but we weren't prepared for loads of screaming little kids running about the place at 9 o'clock in the evening  and being a nuisance to the other customers  who were trying to enjoy their meal.   I'm not exaggerating but it was like "Nightmare on Lloyd Street"
If only they had posted a notice on the door giving us a warning of what we could expect then we could have gone elsewhere.
It's about 10 years ago and we have never been back.     It is a nice place and I couldn't fault the food, so it is good for some but not for me and if you don't like a place for one reason or another then don't go there as there are plenty of alternatives in the area

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 16, 2019, 04:38:50 pm
Kids and Dogs Hugo,  I suffered at the hands (or paws) of both of them yet again this morning.
It could only have been worse if I’d been accosted by a group of dogs, who smoke! 😂
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 16, 2019, 05:52:07 pm
Kids running riot are the fault of the parents. As are badly behaved dogs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 16, 2019, 07:29:15 pm
There are a lot of adults i hate sharing my coffee and a pint with lol
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on February 16, 2019, 11:38:23 pm
There are a lot of adults i hate sharing my coffee and a pint with lol

That reminds me, we need to get a night out sorted you and I !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 26, 2019, 06:43:47 am
Apparentley the Gresham have taken over the Lilly.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2019, 07:17:04 pm
Nice to see people looking around the old post office today,i know that means nothing but it nice to know there are people interested.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 07, 2019, 06:22:02 pm
Snowdon pub looks very nice but LLandudno has a long way to go before it reclaims the number one spot from Conwy.Lets hope the Gresham taking over the Lilly is a start
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 07, 2019, 06:23:51 pm
i wonder if the moatyn arms will re-open,maybe the Lawton arms
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 10, 2019, 02:17:45 pm
sorry
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on March 11, 2019, 07:39:30 pm
Mcdonalds is starting at last,no need to reply
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 09, 2019, 10:48:54 am
Costa coffee Conwy closing............."We can confirm that as of the Thursday April 25 the store on Castle Street, Conwy, North Wales will be closed, with all team members offered alternative employment with Costa Coffee at the store in Colwyn Bay.
Ref Dp
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 10, 2019, 11:59:25 am
FAT Cat is making a return to Llandudno.

The Fat Cat Cafe Bar will open at 149 Mostyn Street on Friday, April 12 at 8pm.
The build is the former Lilly Bar & Grill.
Nick Ellis, owner of Club 147 and The Gresham, purchased the business about six weeks ago and decide to rebrand as a nod back to the past.                https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17563630.fat-cat-cafe-bar-opening-in-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17563630.fat-cat-cafe-bar-opening-in-llandudno/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on April 17, 2019, 12:38:43 pm
We had a delicious lunch at Pale Hall on Sunday. Beautifully decorated inside and good friendly service.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/how-north-waless-only-five-16141014 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/how-north-waless-only-five-16141014)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on April 17, 2019, 07:03:02 pm
Very nice but not exactly local!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 22, 2019, 03:55:30 pm
The only magic and illusion bar in Wales is set to open in Llandudno
A night of psychic phenomena and bizarre entertainment that will make you "question your senses".

The Magic Bar Live, one of the only establishments of its type in the UK and thought to be the only in Wales, will be serving up a mix of cocktails and stage magic in Llandudno
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/only-magic-illusion-bar-wales-16309875 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/only-magic-illusion-bar-wales-16309875)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on May 22, 2019, 06:04:19 pm
Excellent news for the town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 23, 2019, 10:31:12 am
HUGE pub chain JD Wetherspoon is not ruling out a second attempt to snap up Conwy’s Civic Hall which will go back up for sale this Summer.   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17657039.despite-failed-bid-pub-chain-say-they-will-discuss-conwys-civic-hall-when-it-is-re-marketed-this-summer/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17657039.despite-failed-bid-pub-chain-say-they-will-discuss-conwys-civic-hall-when-it-is-re-marketed-this-summer/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2019, 11:18:30 am
Locals are baffled by the closure of a £1m gastro pub for 'kitchen maintenance'.

The Tal-y-Cafn in Conwy Valley was re-opened in 2016 after a major renovation.
It had previously been closed for six years.
Last autumn general manager Graham Higgins took over the site, buying up the pub and other assets from the former owners.
But around three weeks ago the pub closed with signs in the windows saying it is shut for "kitchen maintenance".

Residents say there has been no sign of any work taking place, and there has been no response to North Wales Live attempts to contact the owners by phone and email.
Cont........ https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/1m-gastro-pub-closed-kitchen-16393271 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/1m-gastro-pub-closed-kitchen-16393271)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on June 08, 2019, 01:52:41 pm
Rumour has it the owner of the Tal-y-Cafn couldn't make it work & it has gone into liquidation owing over a million. Yet another rumour is that the people who own The Toad are taking it on & are opening next month. We will have to wait & see what happens in the hope this time service is better, portions are larger & prices a lot lower.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cambrian on June 08, 2019, 05:21:04 pm
I have also heard that new owners are taking over.  It may just be the times I called but it always seemed to be closed until mid-day during the week.  If it had looked open, even for coffee, it might have attracted more trade.  I hope the new people are more commercially savvy and make a success of the place which is a good location.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2019, 07:04:57 pm
You are right there Cambrian, they have done the place up nicely and it's in a very handy and beautiful location being so near to the river so it would be an ideal place for having just coffee or a lite bite.
When we go up the Conwy Valley we often used to stop at Plas Maenan just for a coffee and just sit outside when the weather was good
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 10, 2019, 11:25:51 am
Rumour has it the owner of the Tal-y-Cafn couldn't make it work & it has gone into liquidation owing over a million. Yet another rumour is that the people who own The Toad are taking it on & are opening next month. We will have to wait & see what happens in the hope this time service is better, portions are larger & prices a lot lower.

Your rumour appears to be correct, and I am sure Hugo will be happy, I know he enjoys eating at The Toad, so good news all round.

Pub boss takes on Tal-y-Cafn with plans for revamp
The owner of The Toad in Rhos-on-Sea has signed a lease at the Conwy Valley pub.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/pub-boss-takes-tal-y-16405349 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/pub-boss-takes-tal-y-16405349)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 10, 2019, 12:24:53 pm
That's good news Steve     $good$


I believe that the owner of the Toad also has the Manor in Conwy.   I haven't been there yet but hope to do so soon.

https://www.themanorconwy.co.uk/ (https://www.themanorconwy.co.uk/)



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 07, 2019, 09:48:20 am
Further to this post............Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways,         « Reply #3719 on: January 22, 2019, 01:33:23 PM »                                                                                                   

Plans for 20 new flats in the centre of Llandudno are set to be shot down next week.

Members of Conwy’s planning committee meeting on Wednesday will discuss an application convert the old Neville Hotel site into flats.
This application relates to the site on a corner position at the junction of
Augusta Street, Vaughan Street and Oxford Road in Llandudno, opposite the train station.
It seeks planning permission to turn the public house into flats and to build  building to form 20 apartments and associated works on its car park.  Cont.... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17754408.flood-risk-lack-parking-flagged-concerns-llandudno-flats-plan/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17754408.flood-risk-lack-parking-flagged-concerns-llandudno-flats-plan/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 11, 2019, 09:51:16 am
Re above.....   Former pub conversion into flats given go ahead against advice
Councillors approved the plans for the Nevill in Llandudno, despite officers recommending it should be refused.

“Everybody knows that large public houses are no longer viable, something has to be done with this site.

“The land next to it has been a mess all of my life. Are we abandoning Llandudno? We expect the hotels on the front to invest, we’re building a new Premier Inn, we’vew got a new police station, all of those would be flooded long before the Nevill."

“We either continue to invest in Llandudno or we write it off and we’re not ready to write it off, it’s the premier resort of Wales."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-nevill-planning-flats-16564813 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-nevill-planning-flats-16564813)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 13, 2019, 10:07:30 am
Tal-y-Cafn's new boss says he will 'grab opportunity' to return pub to its glory days
The Conwy Valley pub has reopened after a revamp of the site.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/tal-y-cafns-new-boss-16540867 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/tal-y-cafns-new-boss-16540867)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 17, 2019, 05:26:03 pm
We had a meal at Signatures today, a wedding anniversary celebration (35 years...).  For those who haven't heard of or tried the place I have to say Signatures stands head and shoulders above the local eateries. 

It has a lot going for it, including ample free parking next to the restaurant, easy to reach (first exit after the Conwy Tunnel driving West) and, most importantly, great food.

Really excellent eating places are thin on the ground. We've eaten at Gordon Ramsey's, the three Michelin starred Royal Monceux in Paris, the St Pancras in London and our most recent discovery - the York Marriott. What's special about all those is that they make apparently simple food taste very, very different.

Dave R recommended Signatures and we've never looked back. It's on a caravan site, which can make some people raise an eyebrow, but the food is outstanding.  Best of all they have their own 'club' which is free to join and offers discounts when dining.

But for a great meal I don't know of anywhere as good and certainly nowhere better.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 17, 2019, 05:38:15 pm
Best wishes and congratulations to you both on your anniversary................    clappinghappy
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 17, 2019, 06:51:36 pm
Congratulations and best wishes to you both and you couldn't have picked a finer place to celebrate the occasion.      I had my 70th birthday there and they couldn't do enough to make the day go well
In your words "It may be on a caravan site, which can make some people raise an eyebrow"  but some of those " caravans"  cost over £300 K  so you are looking at something quite exclusive
I hope that you are a member of Signature like we are because you can get some very nice offers when you are a member
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 17, 2019, 07:07:06 pm
Thank you, both, and we are indeed members.  Had a long chat with Jimmy himself, today, as it was quiet, and talking to him it's very clear why the place is as good as it is.

The caravans are indeed pricey, and one owner leaves his Bentley on site while he works in London, then comes back for weekends, eats at Signatures and retires to his luxury mobile home.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 17, 2019, 07:18:08 pm
Very nice for some and I must admit that wouldn't mind a caravan on the site as it has everything and is in a lovely location.

Just as an add on here, I did some research into a Williams family some time ago and was able to unite her with the current Williams family and Geoff Williams was an old friend of mine from our teenage years,    We all met at St Tudno's Church and Geoff told me that Jimmy was his older brother.      My favourite restaurant by a mile
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on July 17, 2019, 10:30:24 pm
Signatures is indeed excellent, and unbeatable in this area.
Important to point out that they also offer 20% off your entire bill, including drinks, on a Wednesday. That’s a Facebook offer.
Watsons Bistro in Conwy is not far behind signatures in terms of quality also.

Deganwy Quay Hotel on the other hand is just terrible.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 18, 2019, 08:35:44 am
That's why we like going on a Wednesday :-)  Jimmy was saying Wednesdays are often slow at lunchtime. When we went there were only around 8 other covers in use.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2019, 04:33:52 pm
Fresh plans for Conwy Valley pub have been revealed
The Red Lion in Ty'n-y-Groes closed in 2014 and has been on the market since then.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-plans-conwy-valley-pub-16607998 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-plans-conwy-valley-pub-16607998)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 26, 2019, 09:38:28 am
I see L’s Coffee & Bookshop (Conwy) have been voted Cafe of the year (North)  in the National Welsh Cafe awards... https://www.lscoffee.co.uk/l-s-coffee-books-conwy.html (https://www.lscoffee.co.uk/l-s-coffee-books-conwy.html)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 26, 2019, 09:53:56 am
Well, it certainly wasn't for the quality of their website:

"Here in L’s Coffee & Bookshop we are in a prime location, located halfway up the left hand side of the high street. Here you will discover a wonderful array of delicious mouth watering foods fit for a king and L’s Coffee and Co carries on in that tradition today. A tradition that means L’s is the sort of place that even Royalty would feel at home.

Whether your coming in for a coffee on the go, breakfast on the run, lunch with the family, or just an afternoon tea with your friends, L’s has a great menu of food and drink to tempt you back at anytime of the day. Children and dogs are always welcome here and with free doggie treats and plenty of water, we’ll look after your four legged friend just as well as we would look after you.

We also have plenty of room for buggies outside as our Conwy shop, has a purpose built an tea garden to the rear, which allows you to while away the hours chatting and drinking coffee after lunch."

Wonder why places pay for a website and don't bother getting anyone to check the English?  I'd do it for nothing, but people seem to assume they know all about how to write.  What I find very odd is that the same people would almost always ask for help with their accounts. First impressions count - and what a badly written web page does for me is put me off ever going there. If they can't get a simple thing like the website well written, what hope is there for anything else?

It's a bit like that appalling travesty in the Victoria Centre: the shop in the NW corner with the enormous sign: "You know Who's".  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 26, 2019, 11:18:48 am
Schweppes ?   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2019, 02:39:24 pm
I have been past the Marmalade Cafe in Rhos Road  Rhos on Sea many times and it has always been busy so that is a good sign.    I've never been in it before but today due to a change of circumstances in our day out Mrs H took me for lunch there.
We had the meal inside the cafe and the outside is deceptive because the cafe is quite big inside it and it has a very tempting menu
We both chose the Panini with Tuna melt and sweet chilli and it was very tasty indeed.    We'll be back there again soon but can understand why it is always busy.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on August 02, 2019, 04:04:57 pm
Pleased to hear you & Mrs H had a nice meal at The Marmalade Cafe Hugo, it's one of our favourite daytime places to eat. They will be opening the cafe at the new Archive in Conwy in Autumn, so with all the frequent visits you make to the Archive, you can kill two birds with one stone & eat there as well. They also make delicious cakes too.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2019, 04:26:52 pm
Thanks for the info about the Archives Meleri,  I'll probably spend more time in the cafe than in the Archives.      ;D

Mrs H went to the Marmalade Cafe for the first time recently and that's why we went there today.   Apart from such a good menu I couldn't take my eyes off all those cakes there, they looked absolutely delicious.       $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 02, 2019, 05:30:30 pm
I like the sound of the Marmalade, will give it a go soon......

Owners of Conwy's best-loved Italian to sell up after 30 years
Popular family-run Alfredo has been put on the market, and is likely to remain a restaurant.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/owners-conwys-best-loved-italian-16687237 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/owners-conwys-best-loved-italian-16687237)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 04, 2019, 07:11:01 pm
It might still be a restaurant in future, but it won’t be Alfredo’s.... and that’s a disaster.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cordyline on August 05, 2019, 01:18:21 pm
...meanwhile the Bird scarer kite appears to be working at West Shore Beach Café

LINK (http://www.westshorebeachcafe.com/webcam-in-llandudno/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2019, 03:23:24 pm
Thanks for posting the link on the West Shore, it certainly seems very windy there today   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 19, 2019, 10:16:30 am
We were in Bangor last week so we went back to the Domu Cafe/bistro in the High Street for lunch.     It has a very friendly atmosphere and the staff are really nice and the vegan/ vegetarian food is delicious.    I just wish that the place was nearer home so we could go there more often

http://domukafe.com/ (http://domukafe.com/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 19, 2019, 11:50:18 am
That kite's impressive.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2019, 02:30:04 pm
Ye Olde Bull Inn in Llanbedr-y-Cennin  to reopen soon.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2019, 02:50:56 pm
LLANDUDNO jazz fans no longer have to wait until the summer.

The first of a new series of monthly jazz shows at the Underground Bar at Tiffany's Cafe Bar, Llandudno begins on Thursday, September 26th with the return of Danish artist Sara Oschlag.

Following the appearance from the Sara Oschlag Trio, the Llandudno Jazz events will continue with Art Themen on Thursday, October 31, Neil Yates Thursday, November 28 and Alans Barnes for a festive evening on Wednesday, December 18.

Tickets are £8.50 from ticketsource.co.uk and £10 on the door. All proceeds go to help St David's Hospice.

This exciting new venture features some of the finest jazz talent the UK has to offer, with all net profits will go to St David's Hospice via the late founder of the Llandudno Jazz Festival Ed Burke's three brothers Tom, John, Henry.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17883457.llandudno-jazz-welcomes-sara-oschlag-art-themen-monthly-series/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17883457.llandudno-jazz-welcomes-sara-oschlag-art-themen-monthly-series/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cordyline on September 08, 2019, 11:40:30 am
Recently we stayed at Station House (https://www.hoseasons.co.uk/cottages/station-house-uk6408) Tal y Cafn; it was excellent, home from home  :)
Return train fare to  Llandudno for  three adult was less than £6

Being next door, we had a couple of  evening meals at the Pub (https://talycafn.com/)
which has been refurbed nicely, food was good especially the Sticky toffee pudding  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 08, 2019, 04:57:02 pm
It looks like a really nice place to stay and is in a lovely location with the bonus being the restaurant next door.     That stretch of line from Llandudno to Blaenau Ffestiniog is free to travel on providing you have your bus pass
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Cordyline on September 10, 2019, 02:29:48 pm
I was recently in Starbucks Mostyn St coffee shop, when I heard the Barista shout:

“Cappuccino for Spartacus”

twelve people stood up



(http://playfoursquare.s3.amazonaws.com/pix/15892690_Fa7xqvJXEA8w1NqdtDwVQ6dYvnFtElgLX7ZkuBbkTDY.jpg)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2019, 03:51:25 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 19, 2019, 11:39:43 am
Disgruntled residents fed up with late night noise from patrons of a nightclub are objecting to plans to extend its licence.

The Broadway Boulevard nightclub in Llandudno has asked Conwy Council’s licensing committee to grant it an extra one hour of opening so it can keep going until 4am.

This means the club will be open to play music and sell alcohol until 4am seven days a week up from the current three nights a week it opens.   

cont.........  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17913313.llandudno-nightclub-wants-open-4am-seven-nights-week/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17913313.llandudno-nightclub-wants-open-4am-seven-nights-week/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 24, 2019, 04:43:48 pm
AA Hospitality Awards:

Bryn Williams at Porth Eirias, in Colwyn Bay , was crowned Restaurant of the Year Wales.
Praising Bryn Williams, an AA inspector said it had "Floor-to-ceiling windows offer sweeping views of Colwyn Bay, and exposed steelwork, pendant lights and industrial-chic create the feeling of a hip, big-city eatery."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/aa-hospitality-awards-restaurant-pub-16972242 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/aa-hospitality-awards-restaurant-pub-16972242)

Obviously great recognition for Porth Eirias and Colwyn Bay, but there was one comment, at the bottom of the article, which had a ring of truth to it.

comment.....
"Nice ratepayer subsidised bistro for the wealthy retired, next year it will be Dylan’s turn"
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 26, 2019, 10:15:21 am
Disgruntled residents fed up with late night noise from patrons of a nightclub are objecting to plans to extend its licence.
The Broadway Boulevard nightclub in Llandudno has asked Conwy Council’s licensing committee to grant it an extra one hour of opening so it can keep going until 4am.
This means the club will be open to play music and sell alcohol until 4am seven days a week up from the current three nights a week it opens.   
cont.........  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17913313.llandudno-nightclub-wants-open-4am-seven-nights-week/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17913313.llandudno-nightclub-wants-open-4am-seven-nights-week/)

“The concerns of the neighbours are specifically related to noise and people leaving the premises at a late hour with the noise and anti-social behaviour that follows.

“Having heard from the applicant that everything in place at present is there to prevent a nuisance and that the neighbours continue to be affected we do not feel that there are any further conditions that can be applied if an additional hour is granted.

“The committee was satisfied when it heard from the neighbours and the committee is concerned that it will only move the problem to a later hour. The committee acknowledges the offer to amend the application but we do not feel this overcomes the concerns of the neighbours. The position of the committee is to refuse the application.”

The applicant can appeal the committee’s decision to the Magistrates Court.                            ref DP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: spotty dog on September 26, 2019, 11:53:19 am
I do believe the Broadway was a nightclub prior to the house's being built.planning should of been aware and acted accordingly
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 26, 2019, 12:04:57 pm
At that time they also had the Washington Hotel on the other side and there would be a lot of noise coming from there too
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways & Distilleries
Post by: SteveH on September 28, 2019, 09:21:57 am
This was a bit of a surprise,  "Conwy Archives site at Old Board School on Lloyd Street, to become a distillery"  at first I wondered if this would affect Hugo's excellent searches, then I thought what if he still went there after the conversion, would his reports be accurate $drink1$ 

Penderyn whisky reveals location of new £5m North Wales distillery
The development will also include a visitor centre


Penderyn has secured a Welsh Government cash offer to build a £5m distillery and visitor centre in Llandudno.


Cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/penderyn-whisky-reveals-location-north-16992980 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/penderyn-whisky-reveals-location-north-16992980)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2019, 03:28:55 pm
Colwyn Bay's The Station pub has shut and there's rumours it could reopen as a sports bar
The Station Road venue closed on Sunday and staff have still not been told when it will reopen or when they can return to work.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/colwyn-bays-station-pub-shut-16947025 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/colwyn-bays-station-pub-shut-16947025)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Llewlyn on October 01, 2019, 10:11:52 pm
If it gets like the one they took over in Conwy its nightmare. Noisy, rough obnoxious.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 03, 2019, 01:42:59 pm
Cayley Flyer,   Rhos Promenade  up for grabs...

Ingoing Cost:   £17,000.00
Rent:           £40,000.00
Agreement Type:   Tenancy

https://www.findmypub.com/properties/view/22022 (https://www.findmypub.com/properties/view/22022)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 10, 2019, 05:13:29 pm
Sunday lunch, you know where!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 11, 2019, 11:09:42 am
Hollins, your photos make everything look delicious but what is that in the photo as I can't quite make it out?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 11, 2019, 01:30:18 pm
Hollins, your photos make everything look delicious but what is that in the photo as I can't quite make it out?

Baked Alaska??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 11, 2019, 03:12:24 pm
I did think that it could be a Baked Alaska but it's many years since I've seen or even eaten one
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on November 11, 2019, 03:22:12 pm
A proper Baked Alaska has to be one of those frozen Swiss Roll with ice cream in the middle covered in meringue.  Can you still buy them?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: hollins on November 11, 2019, 03:43:45 pm
Yes, Baked Alaska.
We were talking about that version yesterday Dave. I think it was called Arctic Roll. Not sure if you can still buy it.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 11, 2019, 06:11:13 pm
A proper Baked Alaska has to be one of those frozen Swiss Roll with ice cream in the middle covered in meringue.  Can you still buy them?

When ice cream was sold in blocks I made many a baked Alaska by putting one on top of a slab of sponge cake, sometimes dribbled with sherry and coating it carefully in whipped egg white and sugar mix. Very hot oven till brown. Always went down well at dinner parties ! $bounce$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 20, 2019, 10:36:37 am
I hope they are as successful as the "Grape to Glass"  https://thegrapetoglass.co.uk/ (https://thegrapetoglass.co.uk/)  an excellent establishment.

Rhos-on-Sea craft beer bar with Sherlock inspired name set to open

When Tim Watson met his namesake they came up with the ‘Elementary’ idea to open up a new craft beer bar in a village determined to promote independents.

Wine expert and beer enthusiast Tim Watson opened Grape To Glass in Rhos-on-Sea three years ago and it has become a major success, both as a retail store and hub of the community.

He had always been keen to create a bigger space for socialising and also had a passion for craft beer.
This saw him get into a conversation with another Tim Watson, who sold up Kinmel Arms, in St George, last year and after travelling was keen for a new challenge.    cont   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-craft-beer-bar-17283528 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-craft-beer-bar-17283528)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2019, 04:31:33 pm
We went to Llanberis yesterday to see an old friend at his cafe there and it was great catching up with him over a cup of coffee and a tea as well as a delicious piece of Bara Brith
It's not a traditional cafe by any means but if anyone is in the area then you'll get a warm welcome from Steffan as well as a warm glow from the coal fire that always seems to be on there
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 23, 2019, 10:23:44 am
Tal-y-Cafn pub in the Conwy Valley is set to close again - and could remain shut unless action is taken on business rates.

The pub reopened over the summer when the owner of The Toad pub in Rhos-on-Sea Peter Hammond signed a lease to take on the site.
But Mr Hammond told North Wales Live the pub would close on December 1 due to personal reasons.

The owner of the site Bill Edwards - who has invested more than £1m into the property in recent years - says there were three parties interested in taking on the lease.

However he warned that they were "hesitant" because of the high level of rates on the building, which has a rateable value of £75,500 with the Valuation Office Agency(VOA). Using the multiplier it leaves a rates bill of around £3,000 a month.....
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-close-17301153 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-close-17301153)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on November 24, 2019, 02:53:23 pm
Yet another Restaurant/Cafe about to appear in 50 Mostyn Street which has just been granted change of use from a retail shop, it will include an outside seating area.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: OrmeMac on November 24, 2019, 05:09:22 pm
The Looking Glass at the top end of Mostyn Street is in the midst of a major refurbishment https://www.facebook.com/llandudnoice/ (https://www.facebook.com/llandudnoice/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on November 24, 2019, 08:16:34 pm
50 Mostyn st another restaraunt/ cafe, but they are all the same somebody should open something different and inviting, if it's true that the old hmv shop ( out door clothing) now would make a great food bar/ music venue even have an upstairs.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 24, 2019, 08:25:22 pm
Didn’t that shop used to be a picture house?

I am too young to remember..
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on November 24, 2019, 11:10:54 pm
 &shake&        _))*
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on November 25, 2019, 11:30:04 am
50 Mostyn st another restaraunt/ cafe, but they are all the same somebody should open something different and inviting, if it's true that the old hmv shop ( out door clothing) now would make a great food bar/ music venue even have an upstairs.

No chance Norman as the clothing chain signed a 10 year lease on the shop which is why the landlord didn't renew HMV's lease.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on November 25, 2019, 11:59:54 am
Ah I did hear somewhere it was closing, thought it was a good scource.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 15, 2020, 05:14:08 pm
It was cold when we got out of the car on Colwyn Bay Promenade but at least we had a warm welcome when we walked into The Toad.
A chicken stir fry and then a nice cappuccino went down very well on this cold afternoon    $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2020, 05:45:05 pm
We've visited the Thaitastic Restaurant (situated on the first floor in the old Cambridge Mostyn Restaurant on Mostyn Street) a few times since it opened. Food is fantastic, the Thai Green Curry is perfect.  It's closed now till the end of January but well worth a visit when it reopens. $hands$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 19, 2020, 10:39:28 am
Thanks for posting that Dave as I had no idea that there was a Thai restaurant in the area        $good$

We used to go to the Thai in Deganwy and the food was delicious there but then it closed so we'll have to give the Llandudno one a try as soon as we can
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 19, 2020, 05:31:16 pm
Hugo, there is another Thai restaurant in Gloddaeth Street where Poyntons the butchers used to be.  $dins$

There has also been yet another for a while at Lyndale Hotel in Old Colwyn on the main road opposite the old Queens Hotel.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 19, 2020, 05:33:09 pm
ThaiTastic has a hygiene rating of 1 unfortunately, in fairness it was about the time it opened.
 

 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 19, 2020, 10:20:02 pm
Hugo, there is another Thai restaurant in Gloddaeth Street where Poyntons the butchers used to be.  $dins$

There has also been yet another for a while at Lyndale Hotel in Old Colwyn on the main road opposite the old Queens Hotel.

Thanks Bri,  I'll check the Gloddaeth Street one out but will pass on the Lyndale Hotel as I had heard about it before
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2020, 03:42:52 pm
A shame to see that Providero Limited is in administration with significant debts. The business appears to have been taken over by Mostyn Estates/Peter Ormerod.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 23, 2020, 04:48:45 pm
A shame to see that Providero Limited is in administration with significant debts. The business appears to have been taken over by Mostyn Estates/Peter Ormerod.
Second time his name has come up this week............

Quote from: Meleri on January 13, 2020, 03:32:54 PM
Just thought I would have a look at how the application for the new Coop on the old Billingtons Garage site was going, but it appears to have disappeared. The application 0/46933 registered 23/12/2019 isn't now on the CCBC Planning portal, does anyone know if it has been withdrawn?

A DP story this morning has some interesting news.............. "The application for the new store has been submitted by the Llandudno Investment Partnership, which is a collaboration between Mostyn Estates and local businessman Peter Ormerod."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-co-op-conwy-could-17533546 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-co-op-conwy-could-17533546)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 26, 2020, 10:22:18 am
A shame to see that Providero Limited is in administration with significant debts. The business appears to have been taken over by Mostyn Estates/Peter Ormerod.

Providero cafes and brand saved by investors as company goes into liquidation
The sale has secured jobs at the popular coffee shops in Llandudno and Llandudno Junction.

This has now seen the assets sold to investors - including Edward Hiller at Mostyn Estates - which has secured the future of the cafes and the jobs of all the staff.

The original company has now gone into liquidation with insolvency practitioners Parkin S Booth handling the affairs. A statement has shown creditors are owed just over £200,000 - mainly to private investors.      more https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/providero-cafes-brand-saved-investors-17625443 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/providero-cafes-brand-saved-investors-17625443)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 01, 2020, 10:16:17 am
Some unexpected names.

The 12 Conwy businesses with a one star food hygiene rating
These ratings are accurate as of January 30, 2020

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-businesses-one-star-food-17666539 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-businesses-one-star-food-17666539)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 01, 2020, 10:27:35 am
Interesting to see Dave's favourite - the  Thai Tastic - on the list.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Meleri on February 01, 2020, 11:08:05 am
Bit of a shocker seeing Nikki Ips Deganwy  :-\
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 01, 2020, 12:32:55 pm
I've not been to Nikki Ips for years but always enjoyed the meals that I've had there but I'm going to wait a bit longer before I go to Dave's  Thai Tastic  restaurant.     It's a shame because I have enjoyed Thai food in the past
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 01, 2020, 01:17:18 pm
Bit of a shocker seeing Nikki Ips Deganwy  :-\

I was surprised too, but I remembered seeing this story last December, unfortunately true or not, it will still, affect their business, ....no smoke without fire.

"Renowned Nikki Ip's restaurant drops to one hygiene rating - and reveals just how it happened
The well-known Chinese restaurant in Deganwy has won numerous awards and attracted widespread acclaim.

Manager Stefan Kingdom said the rating dropped after the inspectors discovered no hot water was available during their visit.

"Unfortunately, during the day of their visit, we discovered our gas boiler was leaking," he said.
"The gas engineer came and, when he went away to get parts, unbeknown to us he'd turned the boiler off.

"Unfortunately, when the inspectors tried to wash their hands, they noticed there was no hot water.

"I told them about the boiler, and they said as there was no hot water the restaurant should have been closed down."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/renowned-nikki-ips-restaurant-drops-17330863 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/renowned-nikki-ips-restaurant-drops-17330863)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 01, 2020, 03:22:39 pm
This is what depresses me about the entire concept of the hygiene ratings. It's not the first instance I( know of where a single issue has been he cause of a downgrade. And hot water isn't actually necessary for washing hands.  It's certainly more convenient but a good quality soap and cold water will get hands just as clean. bacteriologically speaking. The dishwasher would have its own internal hot supply.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on February 02, 2020, 12:41:22 pm
A lot of the Hygiene Rating System comes down to having the correct paperwork and record keeping plus the necessity of having passed courses in hazard analysis and critical control points (HACCP) and reaching the required level 2 in approved food Hygiene. Without having complied with that, you will automatically get a one star rating. It doesn't mean the food served in such establishments is bad or unsafe, just that the business hasn't or couldn't comply with the regulations. By the same token, just because a business has a 5 star rating doesn't mean all is well, just that on the day of the inspection all the tick boxes on the inspection sheet were ticked and the records were up to date. That unfortunately is where the Environmental Health Inspectors loose their way. Because if all the paperwork is in place, they can then show due diligence if anything goes wrong and have covered their backside.

The former system of an Environmental Health Inspector carrying out an unannounced  physical, hands on inspection with the ability to shut a business down on the spot if it didn't come up to standard, this was in my opinion far more likely to find the rotten apples  $cofffee$     
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 02, 2020, 03:06:34 pm
Blongb,  do the Inspectors now advise the business of the date when they are coming to inspect it?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on February 02, 2020, 03:38:34 pm
No announcements they just turn up. Well they do to us anyway
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on February 02, 2020, 05:23:11 pm
It's the same for most, but some have sources within the department.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on February 02, 2020, 08:15:12 pm
I found walking around with them if you said what they wanted to hear you were ok, it daft if your paperwork isn't up to date, some used to just write the temp of the van and any reg number, we used to get told we were having a visit.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on February 03, 2020, 11:49:28 am
No announcements they just turn up. Well they do to us anyway

And us, usually sit at the kitchen table and have a coffee ! $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 24, 2020, 01:04:09 pm
I've only just read the report  of Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay and it really is worth going for a meal there.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/unassuming-restaurant-north-wales-coast-17743012 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/unassuming-restaurant-north-wales-coast-17743012)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 25, 2020, 03:06:45 pm
A POPULAR tea house and hot stone restaurant is selling up after eight years in the town.

Characters, on Llewelyn Avenue in Llandudno, is on the market due to ill health.

Posting on Facebook, Brett and Annie Sinclair said: "As many of our regular customers know last year we had to reduce trading hours due to ill health within our the family.  cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18260189.popular-tea-room-hot-stone-restaurant-characters-llandudno-goes-sale/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18260189.popular-tea-room-hot-stone-restaurant-characters-llandudno-goes-sale/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2020, 10:35:12 am
PLANS to turn the former Marks and Spencer menswear store in Llandudno into a bar and restaurant are back on.

Loungers are looking to take on part of the 55 Mostyn Street site, which has been empty since February 2018 after the M&S store which had stood there for eighty years was closed.

The planning application submitted on February 26, states the proposal would include the “Subdivision of the unit into two parts - a change of use of Unit A to Use Class A3 (Cafe/Restaurant).”

It would also see a “change of use of the highway to external seating area, shopfront alterations and the installation of an extraction system”.            cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18279596.loungers-restaurants-bangor-prestatyn-planning-open-one-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18279596.loungers-restaurants-bangor-prestatyn-planning-open-one-llandudno/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: OrmeMac on March 04, 2020, 01:41:15 pm
the M&S store which had stood there for eighty years was closed.

I can’t remember M&S being on that site for 80 years. The building is far more recent than that.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2020, 04:35:36 pm
Brewer's Fayre & Table Table etc  to close by Friday

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/brewers-fayre-beefeater-cookhouse--17949142 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/brewers-fayre-beefeater-cookhouse--17949142)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 19, 2020, 06:24:25 pm
Many of the sea front hotels are now closing for a few months.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2020, 06:27:14 pm
Any idea which ones Ian? Got a friend supposedly coming to one on a coach trip next week and she hasn't head any thing as yet.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 19, 2020, 06:29:34 pm
The George and the Imperial for certain are closing. Once I know precise dates from them and others I'll post them in here.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2020, 07:46:32 pm
Thanks Ian.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on March 19, 2020, 09:50:16 pm
The Somerset for Defo lots of coach companies have cancelled, if the imperial & st Georges are struggling no chance for the smaller ones. 😢
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 20, 2020, 08:57:25 am
The Empire Hotel phoned last night to cancel a booking of mine and informed me they are closing after Mothering Sunday lunch .
Title: Re: All pubs, bars and restaurants ordered to close
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2020, 05:36:00 pm
All pubs, bars and restaurants ordered to close
Boris Johnson has just announced that all leisure premises must close

Boris Johnson has ordered that all pubs, bars and restaurants must close.

He said the move is necessary to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

And he pleaded with people not to take the opportunity to go out tonight for a last opportunity to socialise.

The move comes as the country continues to battle to Covid-19 outbreak.

He asked that all such premises close tonight, as soon as possible, and do not re-open tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 04, 2020, 03:51:01 pm
Restaurant and bar plan for Colwyn Bay's 'hip street' - with UK pizza chain among those interested
This is the latest proposal for Penrhyn Road which has transformed itself in recent years.

Plans are in for a new restaurant and bar at a former bank site on an up and coming street that has been transformed in recent years.
Penrhyn Road in Colwyn Bay has reinvented itself over the last five years with new bars, cafes and micro-pubs opening on the street.

Despite the general gloom in the hospitality sector due to the coronavirus lockdown there is still confidence about the long term future of the road.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/restaurant-bar-plan-colwyn-bays-18196599 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/restaurant-bar-plan-colwyn-bays-18196599)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 22, 2020, 10:49:42 am
Probably the same people who park at Snowdonia, leave litter on the beaches, and think that social distancing is for others.

Restaurant bosses are uniting in a campaign to slash the number of no-shows as the hospitality sector faces its most challenging year in a generation.

Restaurants in Wales are slowly emerging from lockdown, with outdoor hospitality opening earlier this month and indoors due to open on August 3.
They now face a critical few months as they try to claw back losses from a five-month closure.

This has seen a No More No-Shows campaign start to tackle the issue of diners not showing up to bookings and not even bothering to cancel.
There is particular anger at the small minority who book multiple sites and then decide on the evening where to go.

Award-winning chef Jimmy Williams from Signatures restaurant, Conwy, urged people to support North Wales restaurants.
He said: “If you’ve already pre-booked with one, make sure you show up or at least notify the restaurant in advance if you’re to be absent.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/unbelievable-selfishness-restaurants-warn-no-18639337 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/unbelievable-selfishness-restaurants-warn-no-18639337)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 25, 2020, 10:10:32 am
Two stories this morning.........


Rules for drinkers and diners
once pubs and restaurants open - and will two metre law be enforced
The sector received the go ahead to open outdoors earlier this month and is due to open indoors on August 3
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rules-drinkers-diners-once-pubs-18659032 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rules-drinkers-diners-once-pubs-18659032)


Five-star food hygiene heroes in Conwy
See which restaurants, takeaways, pubs and hotels were rated best in class in 2020
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/five-star-food-hygiene-heroes-18656242 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/five-star-food-hygiene-heroes-18656242)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 27, 2020, 10:22:33 am
A PAIR of Vaughan Street businessmen have become a trio to rejuvenate a Llandudno Venue.

Eric Ledru of coffee shop Blend and hair salon owner Clinton James have taken on 3rd Space on Clonmel Street.

The venue and eatery closed shortly before lockdown, with former chef Paul Gregson joining with the partners to bring it back into the fold as the town's second Blend.

cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18609223.llandudnos-clinton-james-blend-set-transform-former-3rd-space/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18609223.llandudnos-clinton-james-blend-set-transform-former-3rd-space/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2020, 12:56:42 pm
I enjoyed a takeaway chippy meal from the Archway Chip Shop in Conwy last night and ate it on the quay.     There were many people there enjoying themselves in what is a beautiful location and to be fair although it was the busiest we had seen it for some time most people seemed to be abiding by the social distancing rules.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 06, 2020, 04:52:55 pm
There are quite a few places taking part in this offer and all tastes are catered for

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/find-north-wales-restaurants-doing-18725228 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/find-north-wales-restaurants-doing-18725228)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: cusco1950 on August 19, 2020, 06:53:43 am
What happens to the Gresham and Club 147 now. HM Revenue have applied for for and been granted a High Court winding up order and appointed a Liquidator from Birkenhead.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 22, 2020, 12:11:06 am
What happens to the Gresham and Club 147 now. HM Revenue have applied for for and been granted a High Court winding up order and appointed a Liquidator from Birkenhead.

I assume that applies to the Fat Cat Bar too, seeing as the same staff operate both bars.
I believe they were sold to a guy in Rhos who had no experience in running bars.
Look at where that gets you?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 22, 2020, 01:42:37 pm
Ever since I've lived here the Gresham has struggled to be economically viable and although it has tried to reinvent itself several times, I just can't see it being a commercial success.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 22, 2020, 06:19:53 pm
The Gresham lost its way when the back bar ( smugglers den ) closed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on August 23, 2020, 11:04:31 pm
Still open ??
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 24, 2020, 09:35:35 am
What have the reopened the smugglers den 🤔
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 01, 2020, 10:14:30 am
Tal-y-Cafn pub to reopen after sale to popular pub and restaurant chain
The pub in the Conwy Valley closed last November but a new buyer has been found.

They have secured a business rates reduction for the pub - and it is now being sold to Imagine Inns.
The pub chain operates at four locations in the North West of England - in some cases transforming sites and their fortunes.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-reopen-18857065 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tal-y-cafn-pub-reopen-18857065)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 25, 2020, 09:55:13 am
I believe there is a new Chinese restaurant in the Upper Mostyn St. area ?   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 25, 2020, 01:38:26 pm
I believe there is a new Chinese restaurant in the Upper Mostyn St. area ?

It is going to be within the Annan Hotel on the corner of Abbey Road and Arvon Ave.....if it is the same one. Eat in only, opening Dec 1st.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: llandudnotrust on November 25, 2020, 02:41:14 pm
Could be handy
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 25, 2020, 03:36:00 pm
Could be handy

OK if you eat Chinese food, My OH doesn't !
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 27, 2020, 03:05:11 pm
I believe there is a new Chinese restaurant in the Upper Mostyn St. area ?
It is going to be within the Annan Hotel on the corner of Abbey Road and Arvon Ave.....if it is the same one. Eat in only, opening Dec 1st.
Thanks Nem.........
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on November 27, 2020, 09:24:04 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 03, 2020, 10:41:05 am
We haven't had a meal in a cafe since before the first lockdown, so our visit to Marmalade's in Rhos on Sea yesterday was a bit strange.   However as soon as we went in to the place we felt at ease straight away
The place is as safe as anyone can make it and the staff were very friendly and helpful and the meal was as tasty as we remembered the meals to be.
It was good to see that the place was busy too       $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 10, 2020, 10:03:00 am
Historic Conwy pub that once had pet lion is now up for sale
The Lion Inn in Gwytherin dates back to the 17th century and the village inspired popular Brother Cadfael series

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/historic-conwy-pub-once-pet-19428983 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/historic-conwy-pub-once-pet-19428983)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 19, 2020, 11:25:55 am
The 13 North Wales pubs that have made the Good Pub Guide 2021 after 'nightmare year'     


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/13-north-wales-pubs-made-19480768 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/13-north-wales-pubs-made-19480768)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, ...........new McDonald's in Llandudno.
Post by: SteveH on January 28, 2021, 12:47:55 pm
BUILDING work has started on a new McDonald's in Llandudno.

The existing McDonald's restaurant on Mostyn Champney Retail Park will be moving into the new larger site, being built next to Iceland.

A McDonald's spokesperson confirmed to the Pioneer: "We are excited that building work has begun on a new site within the Mostyn Champney Retail Park, which our existing restaurant will be moving to in the Summer.”

The existing restaurant, opposite Argos, is set to be demolished.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19045956.work-begins-new-mcdonalds-restaurant-mostyn-champneys-retail-park-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19045956.work-begins-new-mcdonalds-restaurant-mostyn-champneys-retail-park-llandudno/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 31, 2021, 09:51:29 am
McDonald's restaurant build gets underway at North Wales shopping park
The new restaurant on Mostyn Champneys in Llandudno will replace its existing site.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mcdonalds-restaurant-build-starts-trigger-19732986 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mcdonalds-restaurant-build-starts-trigger-19732986)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 03, 2021, 10:03:06 am
Johnny Dough's pizza chain is opening two new sites in North Wales while the owner also plans a new concept.

The brand started up in a mobile pizza van in 2015 and opened the first restaurant in Llandudno the following year.
Two years later they took on the Bridge pub in Conwy in a partnership with the four breweries that own the pub.

Now they plan to open in Colwyn Bay and Penmaenmawr - both at former butchers' stores.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/johnny-doughs-pizza-chain-open-19756337 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/johnny-doughs-pizza-chain-open-19756337)
Title: Re: Sunday roast dinner .... for delivery or collection
Post by: SteveH on March 07, 2021, 10:13:11 am
14 businesses in Conwy that you can order a Sunday roast dinner from - for delivery or collection
These are a couple of places in Conwy that offer delivery or collection of Sunday roast dinners - to enjoy at home!

The Bull Hotel in Abergele offers collection and delivery. Roast dinners are £7 each. Order by calling 07852433655.

Caffi Crempog in Abergele offers delivery. Its roast dinners are priced at £7. To make an order call 01745 824444.

Marmalade Kitchen in Rhos on Sea offer delivery and collection. One course roast is £8.95 and two courses is £10.95. Free delivery within 5 mile radius with a £5 charge elsewhere - though there's a £10 minimum order for deliveries. Call 01492543024 to order.

Tour, Rest and Eat at the Whitehouse Hotel in Llandudno offers delivery between 1pm and 6pm. It's £9.95 for adults and £4.95 for children. Delivery available with a 5 mile radius and free on orders over £12. Order by calling 01492 876209.

The Tal-y-Cafn in Conwy offers roast dinner delivery between 11am and 4pm. Prices start at £10 for the main meal with children's portions from £6. Delivery costs £2 and is only available within a 5 mile radius. Order on the website.

Signatures Restaurant in Conwy offers takeaway between 12pm and 6pm. It costs £13.95 for the main. Visit the website for details and call 01492 583513 to order.

The Cayley Flyer in Rhos on Sea offers collection from 12pm. You can find out more on 01492549617.

Ty Gwyn Hotel in Betws-y-Coed offers roast dinner collection. Main courses are £10. Call 01690710383.

Ann's Kitchen in Mochdre offers collection and delivery. The main course roast is £7.95. Order on 07598629641.

Funky's Bar and Grill in Llandudno offers delivery. The main course is £7.95. You can order by calling 01492471567.

Hungry Harry's at Llandudno Rugby Club offers collection and free local delivery. One course is £9. You can place any order by contacting them on Facebook.

The Peacock Lounge at Ty Gwyn Holiday Park in Abergele offers delivery from 12pm. Adult roast from £9.95 with a children's portion priced at £5.95. Order through their website.

Morton Grill and Brew in Abergele serves roast dinner for delivery from around 12pm. It's priced at £6.99 for adults and £4.99 for children. You can find out more by calling 01745 799781.

Min y Don in Towyn will deliver a roast dinner within the local community. Meals cost £5.60 and there's free delivery within a 2 mile radius, with a "small charge" for anything over. Order on 07435 300127 or via Facebook.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2021, 09:45:04 am
Loungers drops Llandudno M&S site restaurant plan - but there is good news
The restaurant and bar brand had been due to move into the former Marks and Spencer satellite store

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/loungers-drops-llandudno-ms-site-20210359?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/loungers-drops-llandudno-ms-site-20210359?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 25, 2021, 10:10:37 am
Welsh Apprentice winner Alana Spencer to open seafront dessert cafe in North Wales
The Aberystwyth baker who won The Apprentice 2016 will open a new cafe in Llandudno

The Apprentice champion has taken on a former cafe in a well-known location in Llandudno ? and is set to transform it into a mecca for desserts.

This week she confirmed to North Wales Live that she will be taking over a 'prominent' and 'very busy' location in Llandudno but is yet to disclose exactly where.

Alana will serve everything from ice cream sundaes to savoury snacks to a few surprise items that people may not expect - and maybe a few cakes as well.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-apprentice-winner-alana-spencer-20230703?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-apprentice-winner-alana-spencer-20230703?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: spotty dog on March 25, 2021, 05:19:05 pm
I believe it to be Craig Y Don paddling pool cafe
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2021, 08:45:11 pm
Interesting! There is talk the paddling pool will not be reopened either from what I can gather.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 26, 2021, 04:17:37 am
The former Ham Bone Cafe in Lloyd Street maybe more suitable?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2021, 07:06:28 pm
The former Ham Bone Cafe in Lloyd Street maybe more suitable?

Didn't realise H B had stopped trading there but it would seem a better alternative.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 26, 2021, 09:01:11 pm
The Ham Bone has not stopped trading.

Their former restaurant next door to their retail outlet has been up for sale or rent for a while.

For the record, I have only suggested this to be a more attractive alternative for the young lady’s business than the CyD Paddling Pool Kiosk.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 30, 2021, 08:10:18 am
I believe it to be Craig Y Don paddling pool cafe

Spotty Dog was Spot On        $good$


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-apprentice-winner-alana-spencer-20279722 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-apprentice-winner-alana-spencer-20279722)


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on March 30, 2021, 08:41:00 am
As others have said what the people there want is tea/ coffee chips etc oh and a basic ice cream and the Lilo,s blowing up, £15 k rent, good luck to her.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on March 30, 2021, 11:11:41 am
All you have to do is to work out how many bums on seats do you have to have to meet your financial obligations. with 15K rent, a less than ideal location, I'd give her a year, two at most to realise great idea wrong everything else  ))*  $booboo$.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2021, 10:43:15 am
Pub landlord completes £250k renovation to welcome back punters for the first time since lockdown
The Penrhyn Arms in Penrhyn Bay has undergone intense work since landlord Mark Roberts took over the venue four-years-ago
The pub has a lot of history and I remember one of the Landlords many years ago called John Bryn Mor.   A really nice guy and quite a character


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/pub-landlord-completes-250k-renovation-20336433 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/pub-landlord-completes-250k-renovation-20336433)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on April 11, 2021, 12:09:44 pm
Pub landlord completes £250k renovation to welcome back punters for the first time since lockdown. The Penrhyn Arms in Penrhyn Bay.


Penrhyn Side surely?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2021, 12:50:37 pm
Pub landlord completes £250k renovation to welcome back punters for the first time since lockdown. The Penrhyn Arms in Penrhyn Bay.


Penrhyn Side surely?

 ))*      My mistake           Penrhyn Side it is.     It's a while since I've been inside the pub but must give it a go when it's open.   Good luck to Mark Roberts  $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 18, 2021, 10:17:14 am
McDonald's says it plans to move into its new restaurant in Llandudno this summer as it relocates in the town.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/mcdonalds-move-new-restaurant-summer-19977598?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=exchange (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/mcdonalds-move-new-restaurant-summer-19977598?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=exchange)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on April 18, 2021, 02:10:26 pm
I know everything is thrown up these days, but this is beyond.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 12, 2021, 10:09:15 am
A late night licence for a new McDonald's restaurant will turn Llandudno into "the likes of Rhyl where standards are lower", an unhappy resident has claimed.

A Conwy county council licensing committee is set to consider whether the new fast food outlet on Mostyn Champneys Retail Park, Llandudno, should be allowed to trade 24/7 at a meeting this week.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/24-hour-mcdonalds-would-lower-20565525?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/24-hour-mcdonalds-would-lower-20565525?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 20, 2021, 02:07:46 pm
As others have said what the people there want is tea/ coffee chips etc oh and a basic ice cream and the Lilo,s blowing up, £15 k rent, good luck to her.

Welsh Apprentice winner Alana Spencer to open seafront dessert cafe in North Wales..........


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on May 21, 2021, 05:56:40 pm
Good luck to her with this venture. I hope she will stock a few things suitable for kiddies 'at the seaside', as well as her fancy menu. $cofffee$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 29, 2021, 11:03:47 am
Award winning North Wales pub can only open three days a week due to staffing crisis
This highlights an issue seen across hospitality and leisure due to staff leaving the sectors and Brexit preventing recruitment from the EU

An award winning pub in North Wales says it can only open three days a week due to the recruitment crisis in hospitality that is hitting the sector across the country.

Kinmel Arms at St George near Abergele is currently flooded with bookings and will boom further next week with the spring half term.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/award-winning-north-wales-pub-20698233 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/award-winning-north-wales-pub-20698233)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 01, 2021, 08:15:11 pm
My wife and I have been isolating for so long now that it's been about a year since we last went out for a meal.    We were a bit nervous when friends asked us out for a meal a week last Sunday but any apprehension soon went when we arrived at Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay
The place is spotless and the tables screened off so we relaxed straight away and enjoyed the Sunday roast which was as tasty as when we last went there                     $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 02, 2021, 12:48:32 pm
A RESTAURANT that serves Turkish, Greek, Italian, Spanish and French cuisine in Llandudno could soon be changing hands.

The Mediterranean Restaurant, which has been serving customers in the town for more than 25 years, is run by Ibrahim and Cindy Atay.

The couple are looking to move on to pastures new and also intend to sell their takeaway business in the near future.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19344304.llandudno-restaurant-serving-customers-25-years-sale/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19344304.llandudno-restaurant-serving-customers-25-years-sale/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 09, 2021, 10:08:33 am
McDonald's has delayed the opening of its new Llandudno restaurant due to an IT glitch.       ref DP

There is no current new date as they work to rectify the issue.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 18, 2021, 10:15:25 am
A WINE bar forced to close during the pandemic has been given a new lease of life with a revival of the Roaring Twenties.

Waterfront has opened with a 1920s theme in Deganwy after the former Prohibition Wine Bar ceased trading last summer.

It followed a difficult year with zero cashflow for the Station Road bar, sister to Characters Teahouse and Hot Stone Restaurant in Llandudno, was left empty for months with dozens of jobs lost.

Mon Interiors, based in Llandudno Junction, saw an opportunity to reinvigorate the space with the chance of attracting some of the 250,000 that visit Llandudno each year, with a boost in visitors expected amid travel concerns and restrictions.

The interior branding specialist worked over the last 12 months to create the contemporary space, which will offer fine wines and nibbles.

“One of the things we aimed to achieve on this project was a luxury destination that is sensitive to its surroundings,” said Jennifer Williams lead interior designer and owner of Mon Interiors. “A nod to the seaside location - but without being too predictably ‘coastal’.”

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/business/19380681.1920s-themed-wine-bar-opens-deganwy-hopes-attract-staycation-tourists/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/business/19380681.1920s-themed-wine-bar-opens-deganwy-hopes-attract-staycation-tourists/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 19, 2021, 09:39:19 am
The "scourge" of no-shows are a "genuine threat" to already under pressure pubs and restaurants in Wales - but owners are finding ways of tackling the problem.

Hospitality in Wales has reopened after months of lockdown but still faces limits on capacity and the challenges of social distancing.

"Members are telling me that customers are aware of limited space and are making multiple bookings and selecting their destination on the day.

"However, and most importantly, they are not informing the businesses that they will not be attending.

"My local pub lost 30 bookings for Sunday lunch recently for no-shows and another pub was highlighted in the media for 34 no-shows for lunch.

"This shocking position is compounded by the enforced turning away of walk-ins because unfulfilled reservations have taken out the limited capacities available because of regulations under Covid.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/scourge-putting-north-wales-pubs-20850474 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/scourge-putting-north-wales-pubs-20850474)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 27, 2021, 06:05:23 pm
I went to the Loaf Cafe on Friday for the first time and really liked the place.   I didn't know where it was until my wife told me and it's situated on the corner of Bodhyfryg Road and Gloddaeth Street and was previously a newsagents.
The food was delicious and there was a good choice on the menu and importantly in the present climate the place feels safe and it had a nice relaxing atmosphere there                 $good$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....New Conwy cafe
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2021, 10:11:16 am
The Official Jester of Conwy has opened a new coffee shop with his partner - and it even has its own tower!

Russel Erwood, known as Erwyd Le Fol, and Kimberly Edmunds opened the The Jester’s Tower on Castle Square last month.

The cafe is described as set in a ‘unique and quirky space’ over two floors in one of the original medieval towers of Conwy town walls, originally used as a lookout tower.

The Jester’s Tower offers a range of food and drink options including house cured salt beef, sandwiches, Welsh cakes made to the jester’s family recipe and coffee made with beans from Heartland Coffee Roasters in Llandudno

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19408631.official-jester-conwy-opens-coffee-shop-conwy-partner-even-tower/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19408631.official-jester-conwy-opens-coffee-shop-conwy-partner-even-tower/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 10, 2021, 09:45:03 am
The cafe that's ranked the number one place to eat in Llandudno
The Loaf Coffee and Sandwich Bar boasts one of the best breakfasts in Llandudno but if it wasn't for the queue you might not notice it

We went there just after 10.00 am one day and had the breakfast ( it is only served up to 11.00am ) and really enjoyed it.   It's lovely food and very good value for money


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/can-you-really-one-wales-21002852 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/can-you-really-one-wales-21002852)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 14, 2021, 10:41:34 am
Pubs, hotels and restaurants in North Wales tourist towns having to turn away customers due to lack of staff

The lockdown hit hospitality and retail sectors have been impacted by staff leaving during the pandemic and Brexit making recruitment from the EU far more challenging.

One of the biggest issues is Brexit stopping workers coming from the EU.

cont https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/pubs-hotels-restaurants-north-wales-21045674?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/pubs-hotels-restaurants-north-wales-21045674?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on July 14, 2021, 12:02:50 pm
Quote
retail sectors have been impacted by staff leaving during the pandemic

Hmmm.  But how many of the retail sectors made staff redundant to save themselves a bit of money? That report is one-sided.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on July 14, 2021, 05:11:47 pm
So many factors in this issue, brexit has a very big impact in it, the Europeans would work and mostly live together, also the wage has a lot to do with it, when the St Georges hotel advertise for loads of staff it's telling you something, shame the likes of Jfs don't come in the real world.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 03, 2021, 10:09:00 am
A CAFE with an environmentally friendly twist will soon be opening its doors in Conwy.

The Conwy Repair Cafe will have a ‘soft launch’ in St Mary’s Church Hall on Wednesday, September 8 from 10am - 1pm, ahead of its official public opening on Wednesday, October 13 at Llandudno Junction Community Club.

The Friends of the Earth-backed project, organised through Repair Cafe Wales, will differ from your standard cafe thanks to an important idea to help stop broken items ending up in landfill.

Repair cafes are run by volunteers, some of whom are ‘fixers’, who will try to repair broken items that people bring in.
Fixers can share their skills, empowering people to carry out their own repairs in the future.

Alison Shaw, of Conwy's Repair Cafe, said: "We throw away vast amounts of stuff; even things with almost nothing wrong seem beyond repair.

“The trouble is, many of us have forgotten that we can repair things ourselves, or we can't remember how."

There are more than 1,500 Repair Cafes across the globe, with many in the UK.
The volume of raw materials and energy needed to make new products is reduced as a result, and can save people money.

The Repair Cafe also lets people see their possessions in a new light, and once again appreciate their value, as well as changing people's mindsets - essential to kindling enthusiasm for a sustainable society.

And as well as being able to get your broken goods fixed while having a chat, you can have a brew and a piece of cake.

If you think you have skills you can offer, or would like to help behind the scenes, please email repair.cafe.conwy@gmail.com or register your availability and capabilities for the Conwy Repair Cafe at www.repaircafewales.org/volunteer-form (http://www.repaircafewales.org/volunteer-form).

For more updates, follow them on Facebook                                      ref pioneer

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 07, 2021, 10:05:55 am
A former bistro in Llandudno left untouched for nearly a decade has now come on the market.

Number 1’s Bistro, on Old Road in Llandudno, was taken on by Howard and Annie Daniels back in 2003 - with Annie in the kitchen and Howard front of house.

But the couple retired from running the site more than eight years ago.

A spokesman for William Gleave said: "An opportunity to acquire this former 'Bistro' restaurant with four bedroom maisonette above and off road parking to the front.

"This imposing late Victorian residence is in need of renovation throughout and would be an ideal project for the discerning buyer. "

It is on the market for £315,000.     

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/llandudno-bistro-untouched-closing-nearly-21234611?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/llandudno-bistro-untouched-closing-nearly-21234611?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways hotels staffing crisis
Post by: SteveH on August 14, 2021, 09:56:47 am
North Wales hit with hospitality staffing crisis despite boom in staycations and surge in tourists
Hotels, bars and restaurants are struggling to recruit workers in what looks like the region's busiest ever summer

Now exclusive figures from Recruitment and Employment Confederation (REC) show the scale of vacancies in Wales, as the region looks to capitalise on a bumper year for visitors.

In June, when pubs and restaurants were getting ready for “Freedom Day” on August 9, there were 5,837 vacancies in the hospitality sector in Wales.

That’s more than twice the 2,497 vacancies recorded in June 2019.

Kitchen and catering assistants were the most wanted across the country this June, with 2,195 open positions (up from 888 in 2019), followed by 1,869 vacancies for chefs (up from 847) and 497 bar staff jobs (up from 205 in 2019).

It comes after a bi-annual report of UK destinations, published by Sykes Holiday Cottages,saw North Wales dislodged Devon and Cornwall from the top spot for 2021, for summer holidays.

The top three locations in Wales include two in the north, Anglesey and Llandudno, with Barmouth named the third fastest-growing destination in the UK and Menai Bridge (Porthaethwy) in sixth spot.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-hit-hospitality-staffing-21290775 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-hit-hospitality-staffing-21290775)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 15, 2021, 10:04:59 am
As Wales recovers from the pandemic, there are more new jobs in Gwynedd but fewer in Cardiff, a think tank says.

Research from the Resolution Foundation says the bounceback has been uneven across the UK.

Communities where work is reliant on tourism have seen the number of jobs increase in recent months.

In contrast, the numbers of people working in cities such as Cardiff continue to lag behind the pre-pandemic levels.

The report says not only are more people spending their holidays in the UK but many are still working from home and not making trips to work in bigger cities.

Initially during lockdown communities that depended on tourism and jobs in hospitality were the hardest hit.

cont  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58184055 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58184055)

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 16, 2021, 09:40:19 am
Former Greene King boss snaps up 18 historic coaching inns - including two in Wales

Two of the inns are in Wales - the Castle Hotel in Conwy and the Royal Oak Hotel in Welshpool.

cont  https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/19511924.former-greene-king-boss-snaps-18-historic-coaching-inns---including-two-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/19511924.former-greene-king-boss-snaps-18-historic-coaching-inns---including-two-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 16, 2021, 11:46:45 am
Former Greene King boss snaps up 18 historic coaching inns - including two in Wales

Two of the inns are in Wales - the Castle Hotel in Conwy and the Royal Oak Hotel in Welshpool.

cont  https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/19511924.former-greene-king-boss-snaps-18-historic-coaching-inns---including-two-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/19511924.former-greene-king-boss-snaps-18-historic-coaching-inns---including-two-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)

That's very good news to hear Steve, it means I won't have far to go to get a nice pint of Abbots Ale  $drink1$
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 18, 2021, 09:46:41 am
Serious staff shortages remain in the food and drink industry despite 21,000 more people in Wales being out of work compared with a year ago.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said there were 62,000 unemployed people at the end of June, down 6,000 on the previous three months.

There are also 68,000 furloughed jobs and it is not known if employees will have work to return to when the scheme finishes at the end of September.

Employers in the hospitality sector are having to compete for staff, driving up wages.

For years it has been an industry dominated by low pay and has struggled to be seen as an attractive industry with a strong career path and opportunities to develop.

As a result, employers have relied on staff from EU countries where the industry is rated more highly, but many of those employees have returned to work in the EU since Brexit.

cont  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58241503 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58241503)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on August 18, 2021, 11:01:59 am
Seems to be exactly what Fester forecast at the time of the referendum. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: mondie on August 23, 2021, 11:08:49 pm
Former Greene King boss snaps up 18 historic coaching inns - including two in Wales

Two of the inns are in Wales - the Castle Hotel in Conwy and the Royal Oak Hotel in Welshpool.

cont  https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/19511924.former-greene-king-boss-snaps-18-historic-coaching-inns---including-two-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/19511924.former-greene-king-boss-snaps-18-historic-coaching-inns---including-two-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)

That's very good news to hear Steve, it means I won't have far to go to get a nice pint of Abbots Ale  $drink1$

It is very good news, the place needs a good clean and better management. Hopefully, this is the beginning of something good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2021, 10:10:43 am
Just heard West Shore Chip shop closing down ?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 27, 2021, 11:30:33 pm
Seems to be exactly what Fester forecast at the time of the referendum.

Yes, Ian.
Sadly it has only just started to come to pass.
I went on to predict shortages of fresh food, and also meat and chicken, from abattoirs and farms.
You see British people simply don’t want to do jobs like that anymore, especially young people.
I also predicted inflation.   
Im afraid that too is evident, and it’s going to get a whole lot worse.
Very ominous for those with pensions or savings.
 




Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Dave on August 28, 2021, 02:13:36 pm
I rarely go in to town but did so the other day and noticed we have at least one Big Issue seller back on the streets. Considering the number of businesses, particularly in hospitality, that are desperately short of staff I'm surprised that there is still a need for this means of getting gainful employment but there again it's a soft and possible lucrative alternative to actually working.
Am I being totally unjust in my opinion?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2021, 02:19:10 pm
Time to empty the Job Centres.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2021, 03:56:20 pm
I rarely go in to town but did so the other day and noticed we have at least one Big Issue seller back on the streets. Considering the number of businesses, particularly in hospitality, that are desperately short of staff I'm surprised that there is still a need for this means of getting gainful employment but there again it's a soft and possible lucrative alternative to actually working.
Am I being totally unjust in my opinion?

I would imagine that most people feel the same as you do Dave, apart from one or two do-gooders.     It's begging, no if's or buts and it's illegal
The Police should remove them from the streets and take them to the Police Station where Social workers can give them any help or advice or dare I say it, try to find them employment
Before anyone says that they were not asking for money, I parked at M &  S  for about 10 minutes and during that time the guy sitting on the floor in the drizzle was given money on four occasions.   Not once did he refuse to accept the money and in fact he was also given a very small package by an equally scruffy individual.
It's not picking on people who are down and out as there is help out there for anyone seeking it.   People need to take some responsibility themselves
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 28, 2021, 08:32:06 pm
Hugo that guy outside M & S was given a flat a local girl sorted getting him one people helped decorate and kit it out he last a few weeks before him and his druggy mates trashed it. 😡
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 29, 2021, 08:53:55 am
You just can't help some people Norman unless they are prepared to help themselves and it certainly wasn't a sweet in the package that the guy was given.
I remember some trouble in Abbey Road when it became a place for the homeless and vulnerable  people and this article seems to back it up.        .     


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ghost-town-warning-after-homeless-21414688 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ghost-town-warning-after-homeless-21414688)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 29, 2021, 11:00:56 am

I remember some trouble in Abbey Road when it became a place for the homeless and vulnerable  people and this article seems to back it up.        .     


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales- is another/ghost-town-warning-after-homeless-21414688 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ghost-town-warning-after-homeless-21414688)

There is now another holiday property which is housing homeless
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 29, 2021, 11:35:49 am
I hope that the residents behave themselves a lot better than the other place did
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 29, 2021, 11:54:45 am
This is more for families, so apart from trouble with rubbish to begin with, which was CCBCs fault for not providing the correct bins and the pong of 'weed' things have been far better managed.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 29, 2021, 12:43:15 pm
Nemesis their is more than one, the one in deganwy Ave + 2 on the front, catrefi have a lot to answer for housing one family.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Nemesis on August 29, 2021, 01:23:21 pm
They seem to be putting them all over town.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Fester on August 29, 2021, 10:52:59 pm
They seem to be putting them all over town.

It’s quite natural really.
When CCBC are offering a very lucrative deal for anyone housing people for them.
Be it homeless people, migrants or refugees.
£100 per night for bed only, and an extra £30 per person if you provide them two meals.
There are other, similarly lucrative packages available if you own a private house, and you are prepared to let CCBC house people.
In addition, they will maintain the propane refurbish it should any damage be found at the end of the lease period.
It’s certainly understandable why hotels would seek this stable and relatively high revenue stream.



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DVT on August 30, 2021, 09:37:27 am
... and I guess it's us paying for it as local Council Tax payers. 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Blongb on August 30, 2021, 01:02:35 pm
More beggars sitting in Mostyn Street as I walked through this morning. Unbelievable with all Hotels crying out for Staff. It's time our Police moved them on after all they do have the power to do so.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 30, 2021, 01:06:54 pm
 I know 2 local councilors tried to put a stop with these beggars who sometimes get dropped off in fancy cars but didn't get any support off the rest 😡
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 08, 2021, 09:55:13 am
Chef who worked with Heston Blumenthal opens dream restaurant in North Wales 'food paradise'
Nick Rudge was spurred on by the success of a takeaway service he ran in the spring

An ambitious chef who has worked with Heston Blumenthal is opening a new restaurant in a "food paradise" of North Wales.

Nick Rudge was previously on the celebrity chef's team at Michelin-starred The Fat Duck in Bray near Maidenhead, and also ran a temporary delivery service from his Llandudno home when COVID-19 restrictions were eased in the spring.

But he has harboured a dream of opening a permanent restaurant of his own in Conwy High Street.

The restaurant is called The Jackdaw - a traditional name given to people born within the town walls - and is due to open above the former bingo hall in the coming weeks.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/chef-who-worked-heston-blumenthal-21503927?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/chef-who-worked-heston-blumenthal-21503927?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 26, 2021, 12:35:05 pm
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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 03, 2021, 02:01:53 pm
A North Wales restaurant chain is closing one of its US-style diners and drive-thrus.

Harvey’s New York Bar and Grill said its Rhuddlan outlet in Denbighshire will be shutting its doors tomorrow, October 4.

The announcement, made on social media, follows the closure of Harvey’s Pwllheli restaurant last year, which failed to re-open after lockdown.

It leaves the chain with just two restaurants, in Llandudno  and Bangor.

Owner Craig Holmes said he was unable to comment on the reasons for the latest closure at present.           ref DP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Conwy
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2021, 10:05:11 am
Chef Nick Rudge, who worked at Michelin-starred The Fat Duck in Bray near Slough, opens The Jackdaw in Conwy High Street on Thursday evening.

The 27-year-old has been busy getting his eaterie, which will use local produce as much as possible, ready and the response has been tremendous.

He said: "I've been over here pretty much every day for a while, painting, tiling and helping on the desk. My brother has been working on the computer which has been a great help."

Hungry customers have been booking online or by email as the phone line hasn't been running yet.

Nick said: "It seems that every Saturday night is fully booked. It's been amazing and very heartwarming. A lot of the customers are locals which is great.

"However, we're also open on Wednesdays and Thursdays for dinners and Fridays and Saturdays for lunches too.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/chef-who-worked-heston-blumenthal-21776440?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/chef-who-worked-heston-blumenthal-21776440?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 01, 2021, 10:21:55 am
THE owner of a Llandudno-based brewery has hailed the cancellation of the planned rise in the tax duty on spirits, wine, cider and beer, as announced in the Budget speech by Chancellor Rishi Sunak on Wednesday.

But Dave Faragher, who founded Wild Horse Brewing Co in 2015, added that the five per cent cut to rates on draught beer and cider from containers larger than 40 litres, as of 2023, may have been misinterpreted as customers ‘paying less for their pint’.

As well as fuel, the planned rise in duties on alcoholic products were cancelled by the Chancellor, who called the UK’s 380-year-old system of alcohol duty ‘outdated, complex and full of historical anomalies’.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19682436.llandudno-brewery-owner-beer-duty-freeze-great-news-industry/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19682436.llandudno-brewery-owner-beer-duty-freeze-great-news-industry/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 07, 2021, 09:36:53 am
Popular Italian restaurant back on the market with reduced price tag          ref DP
Alfredos Restaurant in Conwy was first put on the market in 2019 for £825,000

The popular Alfredo Restaurant in Conwy is back on the market after being run by the same family for 32 years.

The restaurant has been operating in Conwy since 1959 after the building - the former Boot Inn and Plas Coch - was converted into an eatery.

Founded by Italian Biagio Ramiconi, the restaurant has been put back on the market after it failed to sell in 2019

The price has been reduced from £825,000 to £649, 950, and is now being put up for sale with Fletcher & Poole estate agents.
It has 120 covers and has been a favourite spot for visitors and locals, and is an institution in the medieval town.


A pub in the Conwy Valley brought back to its "former glories" in recent years is now on the market.                  ref DP
Y Bedol bar and bistro, in Tal Y Bont, has like many rural pubs had its ups and downs in recent years.

But owners Steve and Marion Hesketh took over in 2016 and have put money and passion into revitalising the local in a venture that has proved "overwhelmingly successful".

Now the site is on the market with estate agent Dafydd Hardy for £435,000.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 18, 2021, 10:06:49 am
A55's American rock 'n' roll diner offers 'disappointing' trip back in time
Mark Williams enjoyed the 50s feel of the OK Diner but was less impressed with the food after a long wait

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/a55s-american-rock-n-roll-22482637?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/a55s-american-rock-n-roll-22482637?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on January 06, 2022, 06:25:34 pm
First pictures of holiday lodge complex being developed next to Conwy pub
The eco-friendly structures are being made in Canada and will each have a distinctive design feature

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-pictures-holiday-lodge-complex-22667965 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-pictures-holiday-lodge-complex-22667965)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 07, 2022, 09:57:23 am
They do look like a good asset for the area, but a bit disappointing that they could not find a Welsh design and builder for log cabins in the Conwy valley of all places, nine wooden lodges – and one “super lodge” would have been a good pay day for a local company.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DVT on January 07, 2022, 11:49:53 am
... there is also a big supply of good quality pine, spruce and redwood not more than a mile from that location, just waiting to be cleared up.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 25, 2022, 10:22:35 am
A TEA house and restaurant in Llandudno has announced it will be closing next month following 10 years in the town.

Characters, on Llewelyn Avenue, will no longer be open from March 5, it was confirmed yesterday (February 24).

It has been run by husband and wife, Brett and Annie Sinclair.

A post from Annie, written on Characters’ Facebook page, read: “I would like to thank all our loyal customers over the past 10 years for all your support.

“Unfortunately, Characters will be closing its doors from March 5.

“Anybody with outstanding vouchers will be fully reimbursed or alternatively, if you would like to come and use them and come to Characters one last time before we close, you will be able to redeem them until March 5.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19951794.popular-llandudno-tea-room-restaurant-close-10-years/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19951794.popular-llandudno-tea-room-restaurant-close-10-years/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2022, 06:26:30 pm
I enjoyed a delicious meal of Scampi and Chips at the Loaf in Gloddaeth Street Llandudno today.     $good$ 
It was well worth the trouble of finding a place to park in the town due to the road works that are going on
The cafe is closed next week due to the fact that the place is expanding into the building next door.         
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 09, 2022, 01:57:29 pm
DEALS worth more than £500,000 were clinched at a two-day trade expo organised by a top Gwynedd food distribution company.

Bumper crowds attended the Harlech Foodservice Food and Drink Expo which made a triumphant return after being cancelled last year because of COVID-19.

About 2,000 customers attended the high profile event at Venue Cymru in Llandudno.

The expo is one of the highlights of the catering calendar for food and drink producers and their trade customers across tourism, restaurants, pubs and cafes in North Wales, the North West and Midlands.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19979567.bumper-crowds-deals-worth-500-000-north-wales-trade-expo/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19979567.bumper-crowds-deals-worth-500-000-north-wales-trade-expo/)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 22, 2022, 10:01:40 am
North Wales restaurant firm Johnny Dough’s is set to open a new site in a popular seaside town. The chain already has four sites in the region.

Now, owner Morgan Austin has taken over the former Natwest bank site in Rhos on Sea and will bring the brand to the town after research shows the area is the second most searched in the UK on Rightmove. The popular pizza brand is set to open its fourth site next week in Penmaenmawr, with the Rhos-on-Sea site being its fifth and will be projected to open for July 2022.

Speaking to North Wales Live, Mr Austin said: “There is nothing like this with a wood fired oven in Rhos-on-Sea, so we won’t be taking trade from anyone and hopefully we will actually bring more people into the town. We will bring an increase to the night time economy and give locals and tourists more choice.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/popular-north-wales-restaurant-chain-23455520?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/popular-north-wales-restaurant-chain-23455520?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 25, 2022, 10:06:58 am
update on above story..........

A TEA house and restaurant in Llandudno has announced it is to return, just three weeks after it looked to have closed its doors for the final time following 10 years of business.

Characters, on Llewelyn Avenue, had seemingly shut for good after March 5, but is now due to re-open, once the premises have been given “some well-deserved TLC with a slightly new look”.

On Monday (March 21), a post on Characters’ Facebook page read: “After a great deal of thought and many family meetings, we have decided that Characters will remain in the family and be passed down to the next generation.

“It was incredibly hard and emotional to start clearing Characters out after all these years and all the wonderful memories it holds for our customers and for our family.

“So, (we) have decided we are going to re-open Characters and give the place some well-deserved TLC with a slightly new look, but still very much the quirky Characters that you all know and love.

“Opening date to follow soon. We hope to see you all very soon.”              ref pioneer

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2022, 01:44:59 pm
A pub in the Conwy Valley brought back to its "former glories" in recent years has closed suddenly. Y Bedol bar and bistro, in Tal Y Bont, has had its ups and downs in recent years.

But owners Steve and Marion Hesketh - who took over in 2016 - have put money and passion into revitalising the local in a venture that has proved "overwhelmingly successful". It has won a TripAdvisor certificate of excellence and a CAMRA best newcomer award.

Last month North Wales Live reported it had gone on the market with estate agent Dafydd Hardy for £435,000. The couple said they had decided to "call time" and hand the baton over to new owners.

Now the pub has closed. A message on their Facebook page said it was "closed until further notice". Worried customers have replied asking about the owners and the pub but no more details have been provided although they have said "everyone is fine".

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-pub-restored-former-glory-23584180 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/conwy-pub-restored-former-glory-23584180)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 05, 2022, 09:54:30 am
A Llandudno nightclub has been sold to a former business rival in the town, following a competitive bidding battle. In an announcement on Facebook, Broadway Boulevard revealed they are now under new ownership and will join the group behind Club One47.

The One47 group took over the business on Friday, April 1. They have promised to make changes to revive the nightlife of North Wales, bringing back some of the town's old favourites and giving people a reason to travel into the area for their "big night out".

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-nightclub-broadway-boulevard-sold-23595026 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-nightclub-broadway-boulevard-sold-23595026)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 10, 2022, 10:00:44 am
North Wales' first bubble tea store opens in Llandudno shopping centre
BubbleNinja, in the Victoria Shopping Centre, will be the first store of its type in North Wales

A taste of Taiwan is coming to a popular North Wales shopping centre. BubbleNinja is opening inside the Victoria Shopping centre, Llandudno, in a long-vacant unit formerly occupied by a family run off-licence.

It will be a first of its kind for North Wales, and will join a line up of popular coffee shops in the town, including Costa Coffee and Café Nero. But BubbleNinja will offer a taste from the east, described as a combination of a drink and dessert, and claims to stand out from the crowd.

The brand has already gained a strong social media presence with over 2000 likes on their page within two weeks of announcing their arrival into the town. The shop will open on Sunday, April 10 and is offering two for one on all drinks for the day.

Bubble tea is a tea-based drink that originated in Taiwan in the early 1980s. It is commonly served in clear cups and consists of tea accompanied by chewy tapioca balls, also known as "boba" or "pearls".

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-first-bubble-tea-23643860 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-first-bubble-tea-23643860)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 14, 2022, 10:06:48 am
A LLANDUDNO restaurant was among the winners at a national annual awards evening celebrating Welsh food businesses earlier this week.

Indulge Restaurant, based on Madoc Street, was crowned outstanding restaurant of the year at the Food Awards Wales 2022, which was held at the Cardiff City Stadium on April 11.

Initially based in Conwy Valley following its 2018 opening by Sonny Walker and wife Monika, the restaurant moved to Llandudno following the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, and has not looked back since.

Beating eight other finalists, Sonny, Monica and three other staff members shared a table at the event with another North Wales-based winner: Green Island Bistro in Rhuddlan, who was named café/bistro of the year (north).

“I was at Signatures (Conwy restaurant) for nine years, and we won awards, and it was always a great feeling when it happened, but knowing that this one for us was pretty amazing.

“We won in the Welsh Hospitality Awards 2019 for best restaurant team - that was really nice, and then this one is like a step up from that.”

For more information, go to: www.facebook.com/indulgeatllandudno (http://www.facebook.com/indulgeatllandudno).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 29, 2022, 09:02:48 am
A NEW Costa Coffee store has opened in Mostyn Champney Retail Park.

The new store boasts a digital feel alongside freshly baked pastries and M&S food available to customers.

Visitors to the store will now be able to choose their favourite food or drinks from digital menu boards, and can even order in advance through Click & Collect on the Costa Coffee app.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20100199.new-costa-coffee-store-opens-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20100199.new-costa-coffee-store-opens-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2022, 09:46:04 am
This sounds good, anyone tried it ?................

Rousta’s Restaurant, 12 Mostyn Avenue, Craig y Don, Llandudno, LL30 1YS. Telephone: 01492 864056

Greek food at its hearty best just a few miles from home at Rousta’s Restaurant, a family owned venue which this month celebrates the milestone of its first full year of opening.

Don’t be misled by the unpretentious exterior - this is a busy eat-in restaurant, café and takeaway offering a mouthwatering mix of home cooked traditional and modern Greek dishes. The extensive menu features meat, vegetarian and vegan options, but no fish or seafood.

Many familiar favourites such as stifado, dolmades, souvlaki, tzatziki, gyros, houmous and baklava are available, but what sets it apart from other Greek establishments is that it also provides some lesser known options handed down through the Rousta family over many years that you are unlikely to see elsewhere. Greek tradition means diners should never leave feeling unsatisfied, so be warned - go there hungry as portions are really huge.

full article https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/roustas-massive-portions-leave-diners-23932929?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/roustas-massive-portions-leave-diners-23932929?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2022, 11:09:28 am
Hospitality costs: How will firms survive after summer?
By Huw Thomas
BBC Wales business correspondent

Surging costs mean the summer season may be the last for some hospitality businesses in the struggling sector, a politician has warned.

cont  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61496599 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61496599)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2022, 09:04:00 am
Loungers will be opening their Llandudno venue in the next few months. They will be taking over a prominent retail site in the town centre, but its not the old M&S...
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 28, 2022, 11:19:55 am
M & Co?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2022, 05:08:51 pm
M & Co?

;)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: wrex on June 03, 2022, 07:41:00 am
On one job advert it gives 2-4 Gloddaeth st but no change of use or licensing so its not happening there anytime soon although building was sold last september.Old Animal shop is the only thing happening besides the new Bar & grill at Tudno point
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 13, 2022, 09:32:17 am
Six North Wales restaurants on shortlist for the World Culinary Awards
The global initiative recognises and rewards excellence in the food industry

Rina van Staden, director, World Culinary Awards, said: ?We are delighted to reveal the 2022 nominations for our 3rd annual World Culinary Awards programme. The culinary industry has bounced back strongly after the challenges of the past two years and it is encouraging to see the exceptional quality of entrants received this year. We look forward to seeing strong interest and support from the culinary community once voting gets underway.?

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/six-north-wales-restaurants-shortlist-24190307?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 16, 2022, 02:55:58 pm
M & Co?

;)
UK restaurant chain submits plan to take on Llandudno retail unit
Loungers has been trying to come to Llandudno for years and has identified the current M&Co site for a restaurant

A  restaurant chain has submitted its plans to open a site in Llandudno. Loungers had previously hoped to bring the brand to the former Marks and Spencer satellite store on Mostyn Street.

After initially being rejected by planners in 2019, an amended plan was given the go-ahead but with the pandemic impacting the hospitality industry the chain withdrew its plan in 2021. Last month North Wales Live revealed the brand was now looking for staff in Llandudno although they did not want to comment on the plans.

read more https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/uk-restaurant-chain-submits-plan-24240547
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways......Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2022, 10:29:32 am
A PUB in Colwyn Bay has closed as of today (July 18), a decision that it said has been taken ?with a very heavy heart?.

The Pavilion, on Abergele Road, shared the news on Friday.

The pub posted: ?As a community, we felt it best to be completely open and honest with everybody, and it is with a very heavy heart we announce that as of Monday, our doors will be closed.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20285848.popular-colwyn-bay-pub-announces-closure-with-heavy-heart/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2022, 04:07:02 pm
A blogger from North Wales has launched a website that offers recommendations, news and openings of eateries in Anglesey, Conwy and Gwynedd.

North Wales Grub  https://www.northwalesgrub.co.uk/  was started by Lisa Lympany as a social media blog highlighting eateries in the three counties, including offering recommendations on where to go, reviews of places Ms Lympany had visited, and news regarding fresh openings and updates.

Following the success of North Wales Grub on Instagram and Facebook, which became the go-to source of information for many on where to eat and drink during the COVID-19 lockdowns, Ms Lympany decided to make adapt the blog further.

?As the North Wales Grub social media accounts became more popular, I received a surprising amount of feedback saying they?d like the recommendations to be available in a web format,? said Ms Lympany.

cont           https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20287014.foodie-spots-gap-market-new-eatery-website/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SAJ on July 18, 2022, 05:38:48 pm
I was recently treated to afternoon tea at ?Y Llew Coch? in Ty?n y Groes. I was just looking at the photos which has made me feel a bit peckish. The food was really good and I?m sure I?ll be making a return visit, maybe for one of their light lunches. With so many pubs closing down, it?s nice to see this one reinventing itself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2022, 12:50:24 pm
We visited Rousta's Greek Restaurant in Mostyn Avenue Llandudno for the first time last night and really enjoyed the evening.    As soon as we entered the place we had a nice warm welcome from a member of this Greek family run business.    The atmosphere was good and the Greek music played quietly in the background made us remember some nice holidays in Greece.
We both chose the Souvlaki meal from the Grilled Dishes and it was delicious    10 out of 10 but we had been warned that the portions were large.   We couldn't finish it all but took the meat home in a doggy bag for our dog to finish it off
We did have ice cream for a dessert but it was certainly an acquired taste and didn't like it at all, but we'll know for next time
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2022, 10:03:49 am
A nice reminder of one of our better cafe's......

The Beach Caf? Bar, Penrhyn Bay: Popular spot with panoramic sea views 'offers just about everything'

As its name suggests, The Beach Caf? Bar is close to the beach but is also adjacent to the Wales Coastal Path and North Wales Cycle Path. So, there is no excuse not to get here either by land, sea or bike.

The newly refurbished caf?-bar is actually located right opposite the beach in Penrhyn Bay and the new decking lets you take in the wonderful sea view. It looks more like a converted house rather than your typical shabby beach hut.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/beach-caf-bar-penrhyn-bay-24713257?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2022, 09:59:36 am
The hidden micropub with a 'banging beer selection' that's tucked away on a Llandudno backstreet
TAPPS micropub could be mistaken for a house on first glance - but it's so much more than that

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/hidden-micropub-banging-beer-selection-24821712?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways ...The Toad
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2022, 10:20:42 am
A PUB in Colwyn Bay has said it will remain closed indefinitely after it was the target of an arson attack earlier this week.

The Toad, on West Promenade, was due to be closed from September 24-30.

But after the incident on Tuesday morning (September 27), it confirmed it will remain closed ?for the foreseeable?.

It plans to reopen once the damage caused by the attack has been repaired.

A post on the pub?s Facebook page read: ?We were due to reopen tomorrow, but due to a random arson attack in the early hours of Tuesday morning, this has caused some considerable damage to The Toad.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/22903299.colwyn-bay-pub-closes-for-foreseeable-following-arson-attack/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2022, 12:13:37 pm
I'm sorry to read that article as the owners of the Toad have had to overcome obstacles in the past such as the building of the flats on both sides of the pub and the Promenade works.
It's a nice place to go to for a meal and I hope the Toad will open again asap
In the meantime the low life from out of the area who has committed the crime should be dealt with properly and should not have a suspended sentence as he could well strike again
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2022, 10:23:19 am
Legendary local restaurant boss closes Llandudno Italian after 30 years
Antonio Manfredino started Valentino Ristorante & Pizzeria in 1992 and has put his heart and soul into the food for three decades

While Antonio is going there is hope the restaurant could remain. Talks are taking place over someone potentially taking the site on.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/legendary-local-restaurant-boss-closes-25195531
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2022, 10:27:31 am
North Wales county tops national list for the most places in the AA Restaurant Guide 2023
Conwy is top of the pile in Wales

A North Wales county has topped a national list for having the most eating places in the AA Restaurant Guide 2023. AA Publishing has launched the "perfect guide to the UK?s top dining destinations".

It features over 1,400 restaurants which have been awarded Rosettes for culinary excellence by the AA?s professional inspectors. Conwy is the county with the highest number of restaurants in Wales, with 11, followed by Gwynedd and Pembrokeshire with nine each.

Conwy's list includes the three Rosette The Jackdaw, in Conwy town and Bodysgallen Hall, near Llandudno with Bryn Williams at Porth Eirias and Signatures restaurant, Conwy, among the two Rosette sites on there.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-county-tops-national-25247226?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2022, 10:27:56 am
JOHNNY Dough's has opened its latest restaurant in Rhos-on-Sea.

The new restaurant, located at the former Natwest bank site, opened on Saturday, October 22.

Morgan Austin, founder of the popular pizza brand, now has five sites in North Wales: Llandudno, Conwy, Penmaenmawr, and Johnny Dough?s Junior in Colwyn Bay, but this is by no means his final project.

Morgan said: "We signed the lease in May. We were slightly delayed with certain aspects of the project but that?s just the way of the world at the moment.

"The opening went well and I think Rhos is great place with a lot to offer tourists and locals alike.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 29, 2022, 02:25:02 pm
Talk that Ridiculously Rich By Alana, prom cafe has closed its doors for good.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 09, 2022, 10:17:07 am
BUSINESSES based in Towyn, Conwy and Gwynedd were among the winners at the 2022 Welsh Restaurant Awards.

CJ Taco, on Sandbank Road, Towyn, was named Mexican restaurant of the year at last night?s (November 7) awards, which was held at the Mercure Cardiff Holland House Hotel and Spa.

Indulge Restaurant, Llandudno (best of North Wales); Ty Asha Balti House, Llanrwst (Bangladeshi restaurant of the year); Sheeps and Leeks, Caernarfon (restaurant team of the year); and Ling?s Restaurant, Bangor (buffet restaurant of the year) were also winners last night.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23109342.towyn-conwy-gwynedd-businesses-winners-welsh-restaurant-awards/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 10, 2022, 10:41:09 am
?Blod?s Coffee Corner?, on Abergele Road, is available to purchase for ?25,000.

Its current lease has eight-plus years remaining, with rent of ?550 a month, fixed for the next four years no business rates.

With all catering equipment kept up to date regularly, the business is all-but set up for a new owner to take on.

The caf? closed seven months ago due to owner Deniz?s deteriorating health.  ref pioneer

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 12, 2022, 10:15:17 am
A pub that had been a home for "goths and emos" before its closure has gone up for sale. The Pavilion in Colwyn Bay shut back in July.

At the time the operators said they were shutting it "with a very heavy heart" and that they had been proud to create a community that people "did feel a part of". They also said that the "bar for goths and emos" had experienced trouble from those who didn't understand the community.

Now the pub has been placed on the market with commercial agent Fleurets. It has an asking price of ?500K.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/north-wales-pub-goths-emos-25493228?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways......Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on November 27, 2022, 10:33:43 am
Trendy bar that's one of the 'finest looking' in Wales up for sale after closing
Sheldon's opened as a modern craft ale, wine and cocktail bar back in 2018

A trendy bar - dubbed one of the "finest looking" in Wales - has been placed on the market. Sheldon's opened as a modern craft ale, wine and cocktail bar back in 2018 after the owners transformed a former stationery shop that carried the same name.

It had proved a major success in the town - adding to the reputation of Penrhyn Road as a popular evening out destination. But like all hospitality businesses it was impacted by Covid lockdowns and restrictions as well as then facing a huge spike in energy costs.

The freehold is on the market with St Davids Commercial for ?189,950.

Colin Flannigan, from St Davids Commercial, said it was an "immaculate" site. He added: "It is a good investment opportunity as we have tenants lined up."

The listing described the bar as "undoubtedly one of the finest looking wine bars/cafes available". The site is 2,112 square feet in total with a fitted bar and kitchen.         ref DP

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 03, 2022, 10:44:25 am
A JAZZ concert will be held at a caf? and bar based in Llandudno later this month.

Singer Sara Oschlag will be performing at Tiffany Caf? & Bar, Gloddaeth Street on Thursday, December 15.

Joining her will be Arnie Somogyi, and guests Neil Yates and his backing duo.

Tickets are available now and are priced at ?14 in advance, and ?16 on the door (doors open at 7pm).

To secure yours, either contact Tiffany or purchase them from the caf? and bar itself.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on December 14, 2022, 10:01:51 am
North Wales restaurant named best in the country at global culinary awards
Signatures in Conwy took the prize with another top award coming to North Wales in the hotel restaurant category
I must admit that it is one of my favourite restaurants


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-restaurant-named-best-25746455
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 14, 2022, 10:29:23 am
2nd story today......

UK chain secures planning for Llandudno restaurant
Loungers will take on the M&Co store unit on Gloddaeth Street

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/uk-chain-secures-planning-llandudno-25745538?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 20, 2022, 09:47:40 am
Llandudno's former Valentino's restaurant reopens under new Italian family
The restaurant closed after 30 years in October when Antonio Manfredino announced his retirement

But now the Venezia family have taken on the site.

Sibilla and Michele Venezia have more than two decades of restaurant experience and ran a successful site in Craig-y-Don for many years, leaving three years ago.

The reopened restaurant on Gloddaeth Street is called Da Venezia - with other family coming on board to help run the site. A spokeswoman for the family said: ?After years of successful trading in Craig-y-Don, the Venezia family are back with their new Italian restaurant.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-former-valetinos-restaurant-reopen-25792982?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways......Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on December 22, 2022, 10:26:57 am
AN UPMARKET wine bar has unexpectedly closed its doors  - just three years after opening.

Sheldon's, which was located on Penrhyn Road in Colwyn Bay, opened on Friday, November 2 2018. About 20 jobs were created.

Sadly the building is now on the market with St David's Commercial for ?189,950 (freehold); A sign has been placed in the window.

A description into the retail premise on the St David's Commerical wesbite says: "Undoubtedly one of the finest looking wine bars/cafes available.

"Ground floor extending to some 194m2, 2112 square feet in total with fitted bar, kitchen, ladies/gents wc, rear access with roller shutter doors.         ref pioneer
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Top TripAdvisor pub
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2022, 10:44:53 am
Conwy's top TripAdvisor pub stands out - but it's not where you might expect it to be
The tucked-away pub has jumped to the top of the list

Across Conwy county there are dozens of pubs, each with their own merit and style and reason to tempt you in. As such, you'd expect the most popular pub in the area - according to TripAdvisor - to stand out.

Yet the best pub in Conwy for 2022 is tucked away on a backstreet in Llandudno, away from the hustle and bustle of the popular town's high street. This pub is The Snowdon, which sits nestled close to the Great Orme. Tucked among hotels and houses, it can be easy to miss, though it'd be a shame to do so.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/news-opinion/conwys-top-tripadvisor-pub-stands-25808691
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2022, 10:29:58 am
Inside the new ?Craft Beer Cave? open in Penrhyn Bay!

TWO beer enthusiasts have opened a new craft ale bar in Penrhyn Bay, ten months after selling their popular previous premises.

Beverley Williams and partner Roland Edwards have opened the Craft Beer Cave, having sold their B-More Local convenience store and original beer cave in February this year.

With Beverly having worked in the off-sales sector for many years and Roland a seasoned stock purchaser, the pair and their staff have lots of knowledge to share with customers to help them pick the perfect pint.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23214601.inside-new-craft-beer-cave-open-penrhyn-bay/

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 10, 2023, 10:40:31 am
A RESTAURANT in Llandudno has shut its doors, with its owner citing a multitude of financial headaches as the reason for its closure.


Bistro Bach, on Mostyn Avenue, Craig-y-Don, ceased trading on November 26, 2022.

The restaurant opened in 2016 and was a two-man operation, with business partners Bobby Sirrah and Craig Jones covering front of house and the kitchen respectively.

But due to such factors as rising energy prices and the cost of living crisis, Bobby said continuing to run the restaurant was no longer financially viable.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23173638.llandudno-restaurants-soul-destroying-closure-amid-financial-issues/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 12, 2023, 10:17:56 am
A FAST food chain is set to open its own express kitchen within a caf? and bar in Llandudno.

Hungry Cow, which opened its first restaurant in Holywell last February, will soon be setting up from inside The Fat Cat Caf? Bar, 149 Mostyn Street.

The chain, known for its huge burgers, wings and loaded fries, is also due to open its second restaurant in Mold early this year.

Its ?express menu? will be confirmed soon, with Hungry Cow adding that it is ?hoping to be open within the month? at The Fat Cat.

It also stressed that it is not replacing The Fat Cat Caf? Bar, which will continue to be open as usual; rather, it will be operating within its premises.

Orders can be made on Hungry Cow?s own mobile app.  ref pioneer

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 13, 2023, 10:35:29 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded to 22 of Conwy?s establishments, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.


List of Restaurants, cafes etc  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23241926.23-conwy-establishments-given-new-food-hygiene-ratings/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 14, 2023, 10:18:12 am
Conwy pub that closed suddenly last year is now set to reopen
Y Bedol in Tal-y-Bont was closed 'until further notice' last April and had remained shut

The couple have announced the pub will reopen in April. They are currently recruiting for staff for when the doors open.

A spokesperson for the pub told North Wales Live: "Steve and Marion are delighted to announce that Y Bedol Inn will be reopening on 6th April. Stephen has had two new knees and is now fighting fit and is looking forward to getting back in the kitchen.

"We will be serving our tasty homemade pub favourites again and our famous Sunday lunches will start on Easter Sunday. We are both looking forward to seeing all our loyal customers again and we will be taking bookings from April 1 onwards."

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-pub-closed-suddenly-last-25967771
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2023, 10:19:57 am
A pub in a seaside village is set to reopen in the coming weeks. The Cayley Flyer on Rhos-on-Sea promenade closed its doors last autumn and has been shut since then.

Another pub in the village - The Toad - is also currently shut due to a fire in September.

But recruitment is now taking place at the Cayley for a kitchen team so that the site can reopen. A revamp is also taking place ahead of the reopening.

It is understood the pub will reopen in February. A spokesperson said they were hiring for The Cayley - with chefs required to work in a ?fast paced kitchen?.

They added: ?They must be able to work as part of a team and individually. Duties will include, organising deliveries, placing orders and working with fresh produce. Must be available to start end of February and be flexible with working hours. Email sarahblackfoxleisure@gmail.com.?

The operators said they would release more information in the coming weeks.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 24, 2023, 10:22:50 am
Llandudno bar shuts as alcohol licence 'surrendered' and repossession notice posted on door
Fountains Bar & Cafe of Upper Mostyn Street hasn't reopened since a party on New Year's Eve

Locals have reported seeing fridges, sound and lighting equipment being removed from Fountains Bar. Signage for the bar has also been removed.

At first mystery surrounded the sudden closure as sheeting was placed up across the windows, but a repossession notice has now been attached to the front door of the venue

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-bar-shuts-alcohol-licence-26045098?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

image, taken from outside the bar which appears to show dismantled tables and chairs inside.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways...Rhos on Sea
Post by: SteveH on January 25, 2023, 10:41:28 am
Popular wine shop and craft bar in Rhos-on-Sea to close  :(    but new venture is coming   :D

The Grape to Grass wine shop and tasting room and the Elementary by Messrs Watson and Watson bar will close

More read on.. https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/popular-wine-shop-craft-bar-26055577
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.............JOBS
Post by: SteveH on January 27, 2023, 10:20:19 am
Loungers Llandudno recruitment drive begins ahead of opening

A vacancy for an Assistant Manager role at the new restaurant has now been spotted on job site Indeed, with the role paying up to ?29,000 per year.

The vacancy was posted six days ago, and the job description reads: ?Exciting opportunity for an Assistant Manager to join this new opening and become part of one of the most successful restaurant groups in the UK.?

The new tenants are set to create up to 30 jobs and invest around ?1.25million into the site, but it remains unknown when it will open.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Llandudno........JOBS
Post by: SteveH on January 31, 2023, 10:07:37 am
CAF? and bar chain Loungers will be opening its Ormo Lounge in Llandudno on Wednesday, 10 May.

Loungers will transform the Gloddaeth Street site, that previously belonged to M&Co, into a retro-inspired retreat, with a nod to a glamorous bygone era.

Patterned wallpapers, tiling and stripped wooden floors will feature alongside oversized vintage sofas, upholstered lounge chairs, artwork and statement wall and pendant lighting, creating a variety of cosy and elegant drinking and dining areas to choose from.

Ormo Lounge will cater for all tastes throughout the day with a varied all-day menu.

The all-day menu will feature everything from tapas and salads to burgers and buttermilk fried chicken, with vegans and those favouring a gluten-free diet well catered for with their very own menus.

Loungers Llandudno recruitment drive begins ahead of opening

Particular attention will be paid to families, with a selection of games, books, colouring pencils and pads on offer.
A full menu, high chairs and baby-changing facilities will also be available for Little Loungers.

?Our Lounges strive to put community at the heart of hospitality and our teams always go the extra mile to make a difference.

?They are actively encouraged to connect with their communities by working with local groups, charities, organisations and businesses that are at the heart of the fabric of local life.

?We are very much looking forward to welcoming local residents to Ormo Lounge.?

Ormo Lounge will create approximately 27 jobs, with a range of front- and back-of-house roles currently available.

For those interested in working at the Llandudno Loungers, go to: https://thelounges.co.uk/jobs/.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 17, 2023, 09:29:30 am
Popular Llandudno pub the Cross Keys has reopened with a brand new look after undergoing a ?280,000 refurbishment. The venue, on Madoc Street, has welcomed customers again after closing last month.

The six-figure investment has meant the interior and exterior has been upgraded, while a new entertainment programme has also been introduced. The bar is now kitted out with a new pool table, an illuminated dartboard, and new games machines.

TVs are also now visible from anywhere in the bar. The pub, which is part of the Craft Union Pub Company, will host a launch party to mark the refurb on Saturday, February 18.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/popular-llandudno-pub-reopens-new-26256128
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....NEW food hygiene ratings
Post by: SteveH on February 25, 2023, 10:20:49 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded to 15 of Conwy?s establishments, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: Mamma Rosa at 11 Mostyn Avenue, Craig y Don, Llandudno; rated on January 27
Rated 5: Bank of Conwy at 1 Lancaster Square, Conwy; rated on January 27
Rated 5: Pebble Restaurant at 11a Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on January 26
Rated 5: Upper Crust Too at Ableworld, 16 Mostyn Broadway, Llandudno; rated on January 26
Rated 5: Home from Home at 2 Broadway, Trafford Park, Penrhyn Bay; rated on January 25
Rated 5: Molly's Cafe at 18b Augusta Street, Llandudno; rated on January 25
Rated 5: Romeo Ristorante Italiano at 25 Lloyd Street, Llandudno; rated on January 25
Rated 5: The Loaf, Coffee & Sandwich Bar at 12-14 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on January 25
Rated 3: Caffi Ty Tan Llan at Tanllan Cafe, Cerrigydrudion, Corwen; rated on January 12
Rated 2: Riverside Cafe at Bont Y Castell, Aber Road, Llanfairfechan; rated on January 18

Pubs, bars and nightclubs
Rated 5: Llandudno Rugby Club at Bodnant Road, Llandudno; rated on January 27
Rated 5: Penmaenmawr Golf Club at Conwy Old Road, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr; rated on January 5
Rated 4: Rhos Fynach at Rhos Promenade, Rhos On Sea: rated on January 9
Takeaways
Rated 5: Golden Bay at 69-71 Foryd Road, Kinmel Bay; rated on February 7
Rated 5: Robs Fish & Chip Shop at 56 Marine Road, Pensarn, Abergele; rated on February 7
Rated 4: Harvest Moon at 6 Mona Buildings, Station Road, Llanfairfechan; rated on January 9
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 26, 2023, 10:08:24 am
The Llandudno small plates restaurant where the food melts in your mouth
Next Door Restaurant has only been open a short amount of time but it has already become a firm favourite

Eating out is deliciously different at the Next Door Restaurant, Llandudno?s recently opened award-winning venue. The restaurant promises to use top-quality local and regional produce from fields and sea to showcase the true taste of North Wales.

Word travelled fast and since its opening last May and this newcomer has become firmly established as an exciting addition to the resort?s vibrant culinary scene. Ideally located in Gloddaeth Street close to the town centre and promenade, it has gained a Diners? Choice badge from Open Table and was nominated as a finalist in the Best Newcomer category for the Go North Wales Tourism award 2022.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/reviews/llandudno-small-plates-restaurant-food-26312680?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 01, 2023, 10:11:08 am
A LLANDUDNO pub has a new look as well as a new menu thanks to a ?100,000 cash injection.

The Carlton is part of the Stonegate Group. The group invested more than ?100k in the pub to enable it to "bring the best in hospitality to the Llandudno community and beyond".

The venue benefits from new furnishings, flooring and decoration. Photos, charting the history of the seaside town, have also been put up on the walls.

The menu has been re-designed and opening hours extended; customers can now enjoy breakfast from 9.30am.

Having worked at the pub for more than 15 years from front-of-house roles to day-to-day running, Becky Gill is remaining in the management team.

Becky said: ?It has been a lively few weeks getting everything prepared and opening again and very exciting too. The feedback we have had so far on the new look and the offer has been really good, both here and online with reviews.?

The new menu, which now features pizzas, is proving popular with customers.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23352241.carlton-llandudno-reopens-new-look-new-menu/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 02, 2023, 10:16:18 am
A MICROPUB has opened in Rhos-on-Sea on the site of a popular cocktail bar which recently closed.

Tapps at Rhos opened earlier this week on Everard Road, and occupies the former Cocktail Club site.

It is the third bar in a fast-growing chain owned by Llandudno resident Dave Guinn, who also runs the popular Tapps at 35 and The Ascot Tapproom in Llandudno.

The new Tapps is a food and drinks hub, which offers a wide selection of niche and independent IPAs, porters, ciders and beers, including wheat beer.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23355743.take-look-inside-new-micropub-open-rhos-on-sea/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 10, 2023, 10:46:55 am
A CAF? which is among the oldest in Colwyn Bay is welcoming customers once again after being taken on by new owners.

?Blod?s Coffee Corner?, on Abergele Road, re-opened on Wednesday, March 8, having been closed since last April.

It has re-opened under the ownership of Tyler Booker, a 26-year-old chef, and her partner, James Jones, 36, who also owns Lawn and Order gardening and landscaping services in Colwyn Bay.

Both have lived in Colwyn Bay for most of their lives, and Tyler said: ?We've both grown up here and have always seen what a lovely caf? it is.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23376653.successful-re-opening-one-colwyn-bays-oldest-cafes/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: temperance on March 12, 2023, 05:32:26 pm
Hello everyone

I was in Rhos yesterday, and the Corner Cafe has closed.

TL
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 14, 2023, 10:02:45 am
A PUB in Conwy is up for sale as part of a chain?s decision to market 61 establishments across England and Wales.

Pub chain Marston?s currently operates more than 1,700 pubs and bars across England and Wales, with around 300 tenanted and 500 leased.

However, 61 of these have gone on the market, with Marston?s wishing to ?focus on our strategic objectives and maximise returns from our core estate.?

Cross Keys, on Llanrwst Road, Llansanffraid Glan Conwy is among these pubs, one of seven across North Wales, with another in South Wales.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23383097.conwy-pub-sale-chain-cuts-non-core-properties/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.......food hygiene ratings
Post by: SteveH on March 15, 2023, 10:13:49 am
29 Conwy establishments given new food hygiene ratings

LIST    https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23386194.29-conwy-establishments-given-new-food-hygiene-ratings/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Llandudno........JOBS
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2023, 02:27:11 pm
CAFE and bar chain Loungers will be opening its Ormo Lounge in Llandudno on Wednesday, 10 May.

Loungers will transform the Gloddaeth Street site, that previously belonged to M&Co, into a retro-inspired retreat, with a nod to a glamorous bygone era.

Patterned wallpapers, tiling and stripped wooden floors will feature alongside oversized vintage sofas, upholstered lounge chairs, artwork and statement wall and pendant lighting, creating a variety of cosy and elegant drinking and dining areas to choose from.

Ormo Lounge will cater for all tastes throughout the day with a varied all-day menu.

The all-day menu will feature everything from tapas and salads to burgers and buttermilk fried chicken, with vegans and those favouring a gluten-free diet well catered for with their very own menus.

I visited the Wells, Somerset, branch of Loungers last Summer and was very impressed with the service and quality of food. It should be a good addition to Llandudno's eateries.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2023, 10:07:36 am
Conwy Marina bar and restaurant The Mulberry reopens after makeover
The waterfront venue has reopened its doors after undergoing refurbishment

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-marina-bar-restaurant-mulberry-26500565?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Conwy Valley
Post by: SteveH on March 21, 2023, 10:32:56 am
A POPULAR tearoom in Llanrwst has re-opened after a change of lease, with a new look and menu.

Tu Hwnt I'r Bont Tearooms, a 15th century Grade II listed building, changed hands in January via agents St David?s Commercial.

It opened its doors once again on March 18 under new leaseholder Carrie Parisella following a total refurbishment of the site, as well a new website and branding..... https://www.tuhwntirbont.co.uk/

Carrie also owns Parisella?s Ice Cream Parlour in Conwy, and her family have been in the catering industry for more than 60 years, while she has also enjoyed a career in finance.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23397990.llanrwst-tearoom-listed-building-re-opens-new-menu/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on March 21, 2023, 10:51:17 am
It used to win on the basis of simplicity alone. Home made scones, butter, jam and cream were the staple and their Welsh rarebit quite phenomenal. Now the ice cream will be outstanding, one assumes.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Conwy Valley
Post by: Hugo on March 21, 2023, 11:32:10 am
Carrie also owns Parisella?s Ice Cream Parlour in Conwy, and her family have been in the catering industry for more than 60 years, while she has also enjoyed a career in finance.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23397990.llanrwst-tearoom-listed-building-re-opens-new-menu/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

That brought back some nice memories for me because I remember Joe Parisella coming in to Cwm Place and selling his ice cream.   That must have been about 65 years ago and Joe had his ice cream at the front of his tricycle and usually parked his tricycle by David Rawling's house.   Good old days
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 21, 2023, 02:05:12 pm
I bought a BMW off him back in the late 80s, business was good 8)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DVT on March 21, 2023, 02:22:34 pm
Parisella's ice creams sold in Bodnant in Dell cafe - I recommend the bara brith flavour!
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on March 22, 2023, 10:15:33 am
Llandudno bar which closed its doors for final time on New Year's Eve goes up for auction
Fountains Bar & Cafe on Upper Mostyn Street hasn't reopened since a party on New Year's Eve

Situated on Upper Mostyn Street at the top of the town's high street, Fountains was a popular place to eat, drink and dance. Mystery surrounded the sudden closure as sheeting was placed up across the windows, with a repossession notice appearing on the front door of the venue days later.

The building is held on a lease for 2,000 years from December 1907, with a guide price of ?200,000 to ?250,000. The online auction with All Wales Auction takes place on Thursday, May 4.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-bar-closed-doors-final-26527166?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 23, 2023, 10:28:15 am
Bryn Williams' seafront restaurant in North Wales retains its special Michelin status
The Michelin Guide has named the venues awarded the prestigious Bib Gourmand for the year

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bryn-williams-seafront-restaurant-north-26532244?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 24, 2023, 10:25:36 am
'Iconic' Alfredo Italian restaurant in Conwy sold after more than 30 years with same family
The Alfredo restaurant was founded by Biagio Ramiconi and been run by the Scaletta family for 33 years

Now it has been announced that the restaurant has sold. It has been bought by Richard Reynolds, who owns the Bodnant Welsh Food Centre in Tal-y-Cafn.

Colin Flannigan, from St Davids Commercial, said on social media: "Well Alfredo's Conwy completed yesterday. Pete and Chris have developed an iconic business known and loved by many .We wish the new owners all the best."  ref DP
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 29, 2023, 10:27:21 am
A Vietnamese restaurant has opened at the old site of a popular caf? in Llandudno.

Vietnamese Street Pho have opened at 151 Mostyn Street, where the Salt & Pepper Caf? Restaurant used to be.

The restaurant is run by the owners of the neighbouring The Mediterranean Restaurant, and offers a range of food options with a street twist.

With noodle, rice, roll and soup dishes galore, the restaurant caters to both bookings and walk-ins.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23418730.authentic-vietnamese-restaurant-opens-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 30, 2023, 10:49:10 am
North Wales restaurant boss plans to open axe throwing bar in Llandudno
Morgan Austin, who set up Johnny Dough's pizza chain, will launch Johnny Throws

The chucking of axes has become a craze in UK cities and he wants to bring this experience to Llandudno. He has a venue on Upper Mostyn Street and hopes to be open in May if he can secure the permissions needed. There will be 10 jobs created.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-restaurant-boss-plans-26588542
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2023, 10:35:55 am
A PROPERTY in Llandudno currently occupied by an Italian restaurant has been put on the market.

The site, 147 Mostyn Street, is available on a leasehold basis, with a premium set of ?45,000, and is where the restaurant ?Sapore? is based.

Estate agents St Davids Commercial describe it as a ?fully fitted and equipped restaurant/caf? bar owing to relocation?, set in a ?very popular trading location?.

Viewings for the site, which comprises 900 sq ft, are available by appointment only, which can be made by visiting the St Davids Commercial website.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 01, 2023, 10:09:32 am
THE BOTANICAL Lounge in Colwyn Bay is set to close this weekend, as the owner moves on for personal reasons.

The caf?/bar/kitchen, at 162 Conway Road, has become a popular place since it opened at the end of December 2021, with an expansive menu, a vibrant interior and great customer service.

The owner of the bar will be moving on due to a ?change in personal circumstances?, and thanked all those that had supported the business to this point.

Tomorrow (Saturday, 1 April) will be there last day open, and the business is available on a lease with Dafydd Hardy.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23427624.colwyn-bays-popular-botanical-lounge-set-close/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 06, 2023, 09:54:33 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded to 15 of Conwy?s establishments, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

list ....https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23431263.15-conwy-establishments-given-new-food-hygiene-ratings/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Conwy pub that closed suddenly last year will reopen today
The pub went on the market in 2021 for ?435,000

A Conwy pub that closed suddenly last year will reopen today. Y Bedol, in Tal Y Bont, has been owned by Steve and Marion Hesketh since 2016.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-pub-closed-suddenly-last-26637715?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.....Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on April 11, 2023, 10:33:05 am
A FAST food chain based in North Wales is to open another new site this summer.

Hungry Cow, which opened its first restaurant in Holywell in February 2022, will soon be setting up at the former takeaway site of Virgilio?s Portuguese restaurant on Penhryn Road.

The chain, known for its huge burgers, wings and loaded fries, opened its second restaurant in Mold early this year.

It also has two express kitchens; one in Llandudno, which opened last month; and one in Prestatyn.

Hungry Cow express kitchen opens inside Llandudno caf? and bar

Hungry Cow said: ?We are super excited to be opening another location this summer 2023!

?We have taken on the former Virgilio?s takeaway site, and renovations are well on their way to transform it to a Hungry Cow bar and restaurant.

?We will be operating dine in, takeaway and delivery.

?We will be serving a range of cocktails, draught lager, Welsh craft ales, and a selection of spirits and ciders.?

Christy Goode, from Flint, set up Hungry Cow in 2021 after first renting pub kitchens at the George and Dragon in Flint and the Cross Foxes in Prestatyn, before opening his own restaurant in Holywell.  ref pioneer
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on April 18, 2023, 10:14:15 am
A NEW takeaway serving gourmet burgers and more is set to open in Colwyn Bay later this week.

?The Byre? will be based on Conway Road, and is to celebrate its first day of business on Thursday (April 20).

As well as gourmet burgers, it will also serve loaded fries and ice cream milkshakes.

The menu at The Byre (Image: Scott MacAlpine)
It will be run jointly between two former chefs: Scott MacAlpine, originally from Scotland but who has lived in Colwyn Bay for the last 10 to 15 years; and Jake Jones, from Llysfaen.

Scott previously worked at Bryn Williams at Porth Eirias, and both also have experience of the kitchen at Llandudno?s Dunoon Hotel.

This will be their first venture into the business world.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23461502.new-gourmet-burger-takeaway-colwyn-bay-due-open/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 05, 2023, 10:25:43 am
THE OPENING of the Ormo Lounge in Llandudno is just a week away, and excitement is already building.
Restaurant and bar chain Loungers has transformed Gloddaeth Street site, which was previously home to M&Co for more than 20 years.

The retro-inspired retreat, with a nod to a glamorous bygone era, will be open all day, and will serve breakfast and brunch options, sandwiches, flatbreads, tapas, burgers and desserts.
cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23500252.opening-ormo-lounge-llandudno-just-week-away/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


A Llandudno bar which closed its doors after a big New Year's Eve party has been sold at auction. Fountains Bar & Cafe shut at the end of December and was stripped of all its assets.

Sheeting was placed up across the windows, with a repossession notice appearing on the front door of the venue on Upper Mostyn Street days later.
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-bar-closed-suddenly-been-26848590?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 09, 2023, 09:58:13 am
Llandudno restaurant serves up 'modern Italian food with a Welsh twist'
Sapore is 'mini in size but maxi in meal appeal', our reviewer found

If you fancy a taste of la dolce vita without travelling far, look no further than Sapore Restaurant ? a delightful family run eatery that brings the genuine cuisine and atmosphere of Italy to the heart of Llandudno.

In Italian the word ?sapore? means taste or flavour and here it is provided in abundance, as my dining companion Elaine and I found recently when we sampled some of the house specialities. Mini in size but maxi in meal appeal and hospitality, this unpretentious restaurant tucked away near the top of Upper Mostyn Street offers an extravaganza of authentic Italian food that is lovingly cooked and attractively presented.

Importantly, it's affordable! Previously known as Lawtons Cafe Grill, the premises reopened in August 2021 in the hands of new owners Adriana and Lorenzo Lo Conte and their family, who successfully ran Mamma Rosa Restaurant in Craig y Don for nearly a decade.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/llandudno-restaurant-serves-up-modern-26827445?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 10, 2023, 09:50:16 am
A PROPERTY previously occupied by a restaurant in Llandudno has been made available to let after its closure late last year.

24 Mostyn Avenue, Craig-y-Don, is available to let with estate agents St Davids Commercial on a three-to-five-year lease.

The site was home to Bistro Bach from 2016 until November 2022, when the restaurant?s owners were forced to close amid a number of financial issues.  pioneer
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 12, 2023, 09:48:07 am
Coast replaces Alana Spencer at seafront cafe site in Llandudno as doors reopen
The Apprentice winner announced her departure last month but the paddling pool kiosk is now back open

Popular cafe brand Coast has opened its seafront site in Llandudno after the departure of Apprentice winner Alana Spencer.

The seafront site is owned by Conwy council and the tenancy was secured by Darren Randle, who runs the Coast cafe and gift shop and Salty Cow milkshake bar in Rhos-on-Sea.

His team set about transforming the site after getting the keys, nice to see the exterior colour changed, This week it opened to the public. The paddling pool next to the site remains empty due to problems finding a contractor to carry out anti-slip safety work but it is hoped this will be rectified in the very near future.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coast-replaces-alana-spencer-seafront-26895140

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2023, 10:15:17 am
LOOK: Inside the new Ormo Lounge caf? bar in Llandudno!

HUNDREDS of people went along to the new Ormo Lounge in Llandudno, which celebrated its opening today (May 11).

The caf? and bar, part of the stylish Loungers chain, opened at the Gloddaeth Street site previously home to M&Co.

The bar was busy throughout the day, with its food menu proving popular ahead of an official opening ceremony at 6pm, which will invite other businesses from Llandudno to establish a rapport.

cont plus photo gallery  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23516236.look-inside-new-ormo-lounge-cafe-bar-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on May 20, 2023, 10:01:16 am
A POPULAR caf? in Rhos-on-Sea has gone on the market, with the current leasehold owner saying it would be an ?incredible opportunity? for potential buyers.

The family-run Marmalade Kitchen, at 14 Rhos Road, is up for sale for ?224,995.

Marmalade currently offers a diverse range of food and drink options and also caters for delivery with a separate ?meals on wheels? menu.

The business is owned by Sophie Reynolds, who also runs clothing shop Ellekat and accessory/gift store EK&Co.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23534722.business-usual-rhos-on-sea-kitchen-cafe-sale/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....New Llandudno restaurant
Post by: SteveH on May 24, 2023, 10:04:14 am
AN INDIAN restaurant will welcome customers in Llandudno for the first time later this week.

?Llandudno Tandoori Restaurant? will celebrate its grand opening on Thursday (May 25), and will offer customers a ?true taste of India?.

The restaurant will be found at 5 Gloddaeth Street.

Its website will launch tomorrow (May 24), while you can book a table at the restaurant now.

Though the restaurant will not serve alcoholic drinks, customers are entitled to bring their own.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23541990.new-llandudno-restaurant-promising-true-taste-india-open/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.......Conwy
Post by: SteveH on June 06, 2023, 10:02:23 am
PLANS for a new brewery and taproom bar in Conwy town centre have been approved by the council.

The industrial unit at 6A Lancaster Square, located down the alleyway between Saffron and The Cosy Home Company, will become an ancillary taproom bar and brewery.

The application was submitted by Black Cloak Brewing Ltd, which already runs the Black Cloak Brewery & Taproom on Abergele Road, Colwyn Bay.

The popular pub/bar serves a wide range of IPAs and craft beers, and promises more of the same for Conwy residents and visitors to the town.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23568506.industrial-unit-conwy-town-square-become-brewery-taproom/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....NEW food hygiene ratings
Post by: SteveH on June 07, 2023, 10:11:14 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded to seven Conwy establishments, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: Coffee V at 18 Mostyn Avenue, Craig Y Don, Llandudno; rated on May 19
Rated 5: Home Cookin? at 139 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on May 18
Rated 5: Tiffanys at 15 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on May 17
Rated 5: Tribells at 8-10 Lloyd Street, Llandudno; rated on May 16
Rated 5: Ty Llywelyn Community Cafe at Ty Llewelyn, Ffordd Yr Orsedd, Llandudno; rated on May 16

Pubs, bars and nightclubs
Rated 5: The Station at 1 Station Road, Colwyn Bay; rated on May 22
Takeaways

Rated 5: Red Chili at Crown Bach, Bridge Street, Abergele; rated on May 22
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2023, 02:07:03 pm
Just passed the new Ormo Lounge absolutely heaving, looks like it is affecting nearby established eateries.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2023, 11:19:44 pm
It's good to hear that the place is so busy and it'll be good for the town but it won't stop me going to the Loaf next door as the food there is delicious.       Mrs H and I always have their Scampi and chips and the service is good too
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 12, 2023, 09:53:32 am
A CHINESE restaurant in Llandudno is closing its doors to diners after 30 years.

Jasmine House Chinese Restaurant, which is located on Mostyn Street, above the shopping arcade and cafe, will close on July 1.

They posted on social media on Saturday, June 10: "We are sadly to announce that on the July 1 2023, Jasmine House will be closing after over 30 years.      ref pioneer
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 21, 2023, 11:53:04 am
A shame that Tops Chinese Restaurant have vacated their premises in Craig Y Don due to a lease expiring. I understand that they will be reopening at another local location in a few months.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on June 21, 2023, 11:55:13 am
Did they ever have a place at West Shore?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2023, 09:52:32 am
Did they ever have a place at West Shore?
Not to my knowledge, they?ve been in Craig Y Don for a good few years now.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 23, 2023, 10:13:03 am
Hugo will be pleased..

A restaurant in Colwyn Bay is due to hold a ?soft opening? after nine months of closure following an arson attack.

The Toad, on West Promenade, will return - with a new logo - initially on Saturday (June 24) from 7pm, before it plans to re-open fully on Friday, June 30.

It follows an incident at the pub on the morning of September 27, 2022, which left the premises requiring an entire refurbishment.

READ MORE: https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23608795.colwyn-bay-pub-set-re-open-nine-months-arson-attack/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on June 23, 2023, 10:46:29 am
Thanks Steve, that's really good news.    I'm pleased to hear that they are opening again as the place has had to put up with a lot of obstacles over recent years and it deserves to succeed.
I'll be visiting there asap
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 24, 2023, 09:42:55 am
New bubble tea restaurant is like visiting Vietnam without leaving Llandudno
Julie Richards-Williams gives her verdict on a recently-opened place that has already gained a strong following

Located near the top of Upper Mostyn Street, this super little eatery is the latest venture of Vietnamese restaurateur Hao Tran and his wife Merry, who own the popular Mediterranean Restaurant next door. On the site of the former Salt and Pepper Caf? the couple have created a culinary oasis, combining quality locally sourced Welsh produce with Asian knowhow to produce a menu that is deliciously different.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/new-bubble-tea-restaurant-like-27151465?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 27, 2023, 10:04:11 am
A Llandudno cafe that closed recently will reopen under a new brand. Blend was opened on Clonmel Street by Clinton Parker in 2020.But it was announced earlier this month that it was closing along with hair salon Clinton James, which Mr Parker had run for nearly 30 years.

Now though it has been revealed that the Blend site will reopen. It has been taken on by Magic Bar Live. They currently do magic shows a number of nights a week in a bar on the first floor of the The New Alexandra Hotel, based on the same street.

Chris Williams, from The Magic Bar, told North Wales Live: "Our current venue The Magic Bar Live has been based at The New Alexandra Hotel since 2019. We have welcomed lots of locals and tourists to our venue in that time and built up a reputation for being a must visit attraction in Llandudno.
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-cafe-reopen-under-new-27203874?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


A Cafe and bar in Colwyn Bay is due to return after being taken on by new owners.
Botanical Lounge, at 162 Conway Road, had shut on April 1, with the previous owner citing a ?change in my personal circumstances? as the reason for moving on.

But on Friday (June 23), it was confirmed that the venue is set for a re-opening.

A statement on its Facebook page read: We are the proud new proprietors of Botanical Lounge and we are excited to announce that we will be opening very, very soon.

We cant wait to welcome you all for breakfast, brunch and lunch and a cup of Heartland coffee.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on June 29, 2023, 10:13:32 am
Old Colwyn pub named Gastro Pub of the Year at prestigious awards

THE OWNERS of a pub near Colwyn Bay are ?overwhelmed? to have been named Gastro Pub of the Year at a national food awards ceremony.

The White Lion Inn, in Llanelian near Colwyn Bay, was among the finalists for the ?Gastro Pub of the Year North? at the Food Awards Wales.

Despite fierce competition, the pub claimed the title at a ceremony in Cardiff.

Simon and Nina Cole, the owners of The White Lion Inn, said: ?We are overwhelmed to have won this award.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23621574.old-colwyn-pub-named-gastro-pub-year-prestigious-awards/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.....Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on July 04, 2023, 09:57:00 am
A LLANDUDNO tearooms is to be sold for the ?right price? after 16 years under the same family.

The owners of Haulfre Tea Rooms, have said they are ?tentatively thinking? about selling on the business.

Located on the side of the Great Orme, the popular cafe offers stunning views of the town and surrounding area, and is believed to date from the 1860s

The Grade II listed property on Cwlach Road, which comes with a four bedroom apartment, has been run for the last 16 years by Diane Easter.

The property previously went on the market in 2018, but remained in Ms Easter?s hands.

In a post on social media, the business revealed they were again looking into selling, telling the Pioneer it would be for the "right price
"After 16 years we are tentatively thinking about selling on our beautiful tearooms.

"We welcome any enquiries but no time wasting."

The property is believed to have been originally built as a summer house for the tea importer, grocer and yachtsman Sir Thomas Lipton.

It was then acquired by industrial chemist and Victorian entrepreneur Henry Pochin, owner of Bodant Garden , who later sold to the whisky magnate Johnnie Walker, who in turn sold it to the world renowned orchid grower Joseph Broome who extended the garden?s terraces.

In 1929 the gardens where bought by the local authority who created a public park, opened by former Prime Minister David Lloyd George, who planted a tree.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2023, 09:25:48 am
Popular Llandudno bar which shut suddenly is set to reopen its doors
An application has been submitted seeking a new premises licence for Fountains Bar & Cafe

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/popular-llandudno-bar-shut-suddenly-27253470
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Rhos on Sea
Post by: SteveH on July 06, 2023, 09:39:23 am
A POPULAR Italian restaurant in Rhos-on-Sea will be known by a new name.

Known previously as La Dolce Vita Italia, on Penrhyn Avenue, it will now be known as Number 25 after the business underwent a renovation.

The restaurant said the new, slightly less exotic name is to reflect the work being done on both floors of the site.

The owners did ensure that despite the name change, the business will offer the ?same food, same great service?.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways,,,,,,,,,The UK's hospitality sector
Post by: SteveH on July 10, 2023, 10:28:44 am
The UK's hospitality sector is still short-staffed and businesses fear they will struggle to cope over the busy summer holiday season.

It comes as former government minister George Eustice called for EU workers to be allowed into the UK to ease post-Brexit shortages.

Trade body UK Hospitality also said staffing was in "serious crisis" - with vacancies 48% higher than pre-Covid.

The government said staff could be hired under its points-based system.

Restaurateur Stephen Montgomery told the BBC he was "anxious to a degree" about the summer. He runs Our Place in Annan, near Lockerbie - he is also chair of the Scottish Hospitality Group.

"Just as we were trying to take the business from five to seven days a week, bang we lost two members of staff, both front of house," he said.

But it means he may have to cut down his opening hours. "If I have to close to make sure my staff aren't burned out, I will. Why risk losing more staff for financial gain?"

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66021588
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.....Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2023, 10:32:53 am
A burger chain has announced when its latest new restaurant will open its doors.

Hungry Cow, which first opened in Holywell in 2021, is opening a third restaurant in Colwyn Bay.

It opens its doors this Friday (July 14). The initial opening hours will be Wednesday - Sunday 4pm-10pm.

Hungry Cow is known for its burgers, wings and loaded fries.    pioneer

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 14, 2023, 10:50:57 am
New owners of beloved Conwy restaurant say they've 'hit the ground running' after taking on site
Alfredo Restaurant has operated in the heart of Conwy since 1959

he restaurant - based in a large 13th Century building - had been an institution in the town so he had big boots to fill. But Richard said the transition has been well supported by the Scaletta family.

Richard, who also owns Bodnant Welsh Foods, Eglwysbach and Tribells fish and chips in Llandudno, said: ?Alfredo?s has been a well-known and fondly-regarded destination for visitors to Conwy for decades, and I?d like to thank Pete and Christine not only for all of their work in building up Alfredo?s reputation in the last 30 years, but also for their support and advice during this transition. Taking on Alfredo?s has been smooth thanks to their help, meaning we?ve been able to hit the ground running as we look to a busy summer season.?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-owners-beloved-conwy-restaurant-27314283
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.,.,,...Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on July 15, 2023, 09:56:13 am
New cafe bar in Llandudno breaks sales records for UK chain
The Ormo Lounge is the most successful opening ever in the 22 year history of the Loungers group

The spectacular interior has got people talking and this has been backed up with fantastic early sales. It may have taken the brand four years to open in the town but it looks like the effort was worth it.

This week Loungers revealed that sales in the weeks since opening had surpassed any previous site launch in its 22 year history. That puts it at number one from over 230 sites - quite an accolade for the seaside town.

The brand also hope to create a 10 bedroom hotel on the upper floors of the building.
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-cafe-bar-llandudno-breaks-27306905?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


A POPULAR ice cream parlour in Llandudno has gone on the market, with the owners saying it was a ?tough decision? to make.
The Looking Glass, at 100 Mostyn Street, was started by couple David and Jenny Page in 2014, offering a ?unique? blend of ice cream flavours, including orange marmalade cheesecake and black currant and liquorice.

With sorbets, hot drinks, cakes, and other dessert options, the place quickly gained a big following and dedicated customers.

David added that whoever purchases the business will have the option of taking on their unique recipes and flavours, and that the ?fantastic? group of staff would come with the sale.

He continued: ?It?s a pretty special little business, that means a lot to a lot of people, it means a lot to us also - we feel it?s the right time to move on.?

For more details on the listing, including its asking price, contact paige.brindel@knightsbridgeplc.com.

Read more https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23655783.popular-ice-cream-parlour-llandudno-sale-almost-10-years/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways...new food hygiene ratings
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2023, 10:06:27 am
14 Conwy businesses handed new food hygiene ratings

List ........ https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23660213.14-conwy-businesses-handed-new-food-hygiene-ratings/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=d2a6ee64-29aa-4d6b-be9e-e1a0d906a347
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 20, 2023, 09:43:45 am
A GREEK restaurant opened its doors in Rhos-on-Sea on the weekend, welcoming customers to try its authentic cuisine.

Dionyssos Resto, named after the Greek god of wine and ecstasy, opened at 9-11 Everard Road, and is run by managing director Petros Fillippidis.

It is the third in a chain of Greek restaurants in North Wales, joining White Tower in Llandudno and GRK Spot in Bangor.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23663884.inside-authentic-new-greek-restaurant-rhos-on-sea/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on July 28, 2023, 10:16:37 am
A CONVERTED Welsh Methodist chapel in Conwy has added food to its attractions with the launch of a ?small plates menu?.

?The Hidden Chapel?, found on York Place (off Lancaster Square), has hired a new head chef, Daniel Peate, in the process.

Using ingredients sourced from the region, and creating dishes freshly prepared in its kitchen, The Hidden Chapel says Daniel has put together ?a menu full of flavour?.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23684423.converted-chapel-conwy-expands-starts-serving-food/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways ...........Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on August 03, 2023, 10:02:12 am
THE site of a cafe in Llandudno has been sold after it was placed on the market for a five-figure sum.          ref pioneer

19 Lloyd Street, home to Taylors Cafe and Restaurant, was put up for sale via estate agents St Davids Commercial on a leasehold basis for 20,000 with a reduced premium.

The lease will be for three years at a rental of 14,000 per annum.

Earlier today (August 2), the estate agents confirmed that a sale of the site has now been completed.

St Davids describes the site as a very prominent corner cafe/wine bar arranged on ground and lower ground floor, adding that it was available only due to our clients other business interest?.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways...
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2023, 09:30:23 am
A popular village pub in Conwy that closed down earlier this year is set to reopen. Annie and Mike Rowlands have wasted no time in getting the Mountain View in Mochdre back up and running.

Despite only receiving the keys to the pub this week, the couple are set to reopen their local pub this Friday. The pub closed back in April, and Annie and Mike are looking to restore it to its "former glory" once it is back open.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/popular-village-pub-conwy-reopen-27453885?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


AN INDIAN restaurant and takeaway is set to open its doors in Llandudno, having taken over the site of a former Chinese eatery.

Mostyn Tandoori opens tomorrow (August 4) at the former home of Jasmine House Chinese Restaurant, a popular destination which closed on July 1 with its owner wishing to retire.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23699773.new-indian-restaurant-bring-culinary-extravaganza-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 08, 2023, 09:34:04 am
The future of a popular Llandudno bar looks set to be decided tomorrow at a Conwy licensing sub-committee meeting. Fountains Bar and Cafe, on Upper Mostyn Street, closed in January following a New Year's Eve party.

Local businessman Philip Ashe, who has run several other pubs and bars in the area, has submitted a licensing application to reopen Fountains, selling alcohol and playing music. But a licensing sub-committee meeting will take place tomorrow (Tuesday) following objections from residents.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/future-llandudnos-iconic-fountains-bar-27473863?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


A NEW axe throwing bar in Llandudno is now taking bookings.
Morgan Austin, founder of popular pizza chain Johnny Dough's, is behind Johnny Throws which is located on 145 Upper Mostyn Street.

Players can book a one-hour session [training for all participants on 'proper throwing techniques' is given 15 minutes before.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23705775.axe-throwing-bar-johnny-throws-now-taking-bookings/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 10, 2023, 10:02:16 am
Complaints, 'mistake' and deadlock - Inside the tense meeting over Llandudno Fountains bar's future
Conwy councillors now have five days to decide whether the venue can reopen

A decision on the future of a popular Llandudno bar will be decided following a tense licensing meeting at Conwy's Bodlondeb HQ. Local businessman Phillip Ashe addressed Conwy's licensing sub-committee this afternoon (Tuesday) following his application for a premises licence at Fountains bar on Upper Mostyn Street.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/complaints-mistake-deadlock-inside-tense-27482273
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: norman08 on August 10, 2023, 12:52:03 pm
Let?s not forget Phil Ashe is only the front on this. He has a licence, I like his comment to the residents that are not happy., well they new their were bars there when they movedi in. That was when the bars closed at 11 now it?s 1/2/3 am,   Who has really bought it.   
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2023, 09:47:54 am
A PROPERTY in Llandudno previously occupied by an Italian restaurant has been let after it was put on the market.   ref pioneer

The site, 147 Mostyn Street, was made available on a leasehold basis in March, with a premium set of ?45,000.

It was where the restaurant ?Sapore? was formerly based prior to its closure.

Estate agents St Davids Commercial confirmed today (August 11) that the property has now successfully been let.

St Davids described it as a ?fully fitted and equipped restaurant/caf? bar owing to relocation?, set in a ?very popular trading location?.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.......Conwy
Post by: SteveH on August 15, 2023, 09:48:09 am
THE GARDEN of a well-known pub in Conwy town centre is to be transformed, after planning permission was secured.

The beer garden area at the George & Dragon, at 21 Castle Street, will see new timber clad seating booths, a central planter and festoon lighting installed.

The planning application, submitted by Stars Pubs and Bars, underwent several consultation stages, due to the site?s importance with regards to its heritage.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23721668.beer-garden-makeover-plans-popular-conwy-pub-approved/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2023, 03:04:58 pm
If you like Indian food, I can recommend the new Mostyn Tandoori restaurant on Mostyn Street (in the old Jasmine Garden).
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways......Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on August 23, 2023, 10:29:26 am
LAND being disposed of by the council could be snapped up by Wetherspoon to create a beer garden.

Conwy County Borough Council's Cabinet reaffirmed their decision today (Tuesday, August 22) of 11 July, to dispose of a parcel of land at the Market Hall site, Colwyn Bay.

The former Market Hall was demolished in 2013 as part of plans to revamp the town centre.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23740621.pub-shows-interest-colwyn-bays-former-market-hall/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2023, 09:58:12 am
A BREWING business from Llandudno have created a beer dedicated to the ?fantastic? town and its people.

Wild Horse Brewing Co?s new craft beer, Tudno Pils, is a tribute to the resort town, which the company said ?inspires us to do what we do on a daily basis?.

The company was founded in 2015 by Dave and Emma Faragher.

They both grew up in the area and, after 13 years away and inspired after visiting dozens of craft breweries across Canada and the USA, returned in 2014 to open a brewery of their own.

Now a team of ten, beer is brewed in small 16HL batches at their Llandudno brewery, with the team doing everything onsite from milling grain right through to kegging and canning, with the beers unfiltered, unpasteurised and vegan friendly.

A spokesperson for Wild Horse Brewing Co told the Pioneer: "Tudno Pils is our tribute to our hometown Llandudno.

?Like the rest of North Wales, Llandudno inspires us to do what we do on a daily basis; the ornate Victorian architecture, rugged beauty of the Great Orme, breathtaking sunsets on West Shore and countless other scenes in our truly unique hometown.

?We feel incredibly lucky to be able to brew beer in this amazing place for the fantastic people of Llandudno and we wanted to try and capture that with this beer."
ref pioneer
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 25, 2023, 09:49:52 am
Dylan's names opening date for new restaurant at former shop of Salvage Hunter Drew Pritchard



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dylans-names-opening-date-new-27590332
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on August 25, 2023, 09:59:53 am
North Wales Wetherspoon?s gets go-ahead to buy 'eyesore' site for seaside beer garden
Hopes are rising of a breakthrough in a long-running impasse over a derelict site in Colwyn Bay

It's about time that that land was developed but I hope that the eyesore of the Imperial Hotel across the road  is improved too



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-wetherspoons-gets-go-27588095
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on August 30, 2023, 10:07:34 am
Fountains Bar in Llandudno will fully reopen despite concerns from residents
It has been granted a licence to open until 2.30am on weekends and bank holidays and midnight on weekdays

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/fountains-bar-llandudno-reopen-despite-27614837?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 10, 2023, 09:56:31 am
A CAFE which is among the oldest in Colwyn Bay is offering customers a huge free cooked breakfast if they can eat the entire meal within 30 minutes.

Blods Coffee Corner, on Abergele Road, is among those across the UK holding the ?666 Devil's Breakfast Challenge.

This sees hungry customers served six bacon rashers, sausages, eggs, hash browns, pieces of black pudding and toast, as well as double helpings of beans, tomatoes and mushrooms.

Anyone who can eat all of that in half an hour gets it for free, as well as having your picture placed on the wall of the cafe, and 25 per cent off your order the next time you visit it.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23774672.colwyn-bay-cafe-invites-customers-face-cooked-breakfast-challenge/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Here is a very popular video of what the challenge is like..... video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjPo5i1NdZs

 5.1M views  7 months ago  #Wales #FoodChallenge #EatingShow
 
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2023, 10:34:16 am
Hope the cost includes free transport to the nearest cardiac facility :-)
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 14, 2023, 11:14:28 pm
I went to Talgoed Garden Centre in Glan Conwy yesterday for some Spring bulbs and enjoyed a Parisella's ice cream while we were there and also had a quick look at the Cafe menu
Today we went back again for more bulbs but had a small breakfast there consisting of an egg, sausage, rasher of bacon, hash brown, beans and a round of toast.   Two meals and a pot of tea for two and just under 10.00 pounds!
It was a real tasty meal and the staff were very friendly so we'll be going there on a regular basis from now on
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2023, 04:20:42 pm
Dylan's names opening date for new restaurant at former shop of Salvage Hunter Drew Pritchard



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dylans-names-opening-date-new-27590332
Drew Pritchard has bought a large Georgian house in central Bath to renovate. I was in Bath over the Summer and it's a lovely place.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2023, 10:18:11 am
I went to Talgoed Garden Centre in Glan Conwy yesterday for some Spring bulbs and enjoyed a Parisella's ice cream while we were there and also had a quick look at the Cafe menu
Today we went back again for more bulbs but had a small breakfast there consisting of an egg, sausage, rasher of bacon, hash brown, beans and a round of toast.   Two meals and a pot of tea for two and just under 10.00 pounds!
It was a real tasty meal and the staff were very friendly so we'll be going there on a regular basis from now on

Hugo, Interesting article, does make you wonder, after your recent visit Talgoed Garden Centre.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reviewer-loved-small-breakfast-big-27712459
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2023, 11:58:28 am
Thanks for posting that link Steve,   I do like the cafe and the quality of the food there.

I don't mind how much I pay for a meal providing the quality is good and for a number of weeks I used to go to The Furnace at Bodnant for a breakfast.   It wasn't cheap by any means but the quality was good and we always enjoyed the meal.    That was until The Furnace must have changed its food supplier and to add insult to injury the half a tomato was reduced to a quarter of a tomato.     At 26.00 pounds or thereabouts enough was enough and we haven't been there since
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.....Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on September 19, 2023, 10:23:05 am
A CAFE and restaurant in Llandudno has is up for sale, as the owners look to sell the business.    ref pioneer

The popular Orient Express Cafe & Restaurant, at 8 Gloddaeth Street, is on the market with estate agent St David?s Commercial for 80,000.

The business has a 20-year lease on the property, which was renewed in June this year.

Its existing use is A3 class, which authorises the sale of food or drink for consumption on the premises or of hot food for consumption off the premises it excludes takeaway and fish and chip usage.

The profitable business is made up of a ground floor that extends to 755 square feet, with space for 40 covers inside, a kitchen, rear access and a front area under the veranda with room for 16 covers.

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways..........Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on September 20, 2023, 09:55:25 am
THE OWNER of an award-winning vegan bistro is preparing to open a new 'plant powered cafe' in Llandudno.

Sara Turner, who owns Green Island Bistro on Rhuddlan High Street, is aiming to open Pip & Oat in February 2024. She will be moving into a unit on Clonmel Street [currently a photography studio]. Her lease will begin in January.

Pip & Oat is set to have a relaxed cafe vibe and will feature locally sourced food and drink. It will also be dog friendly.

The menu will feature delicious cakes, sandwiches, pancakes and kebabs.

Sara said: "Llandudno has been crying out for a vegan cafe for a long time. As a vegan myself, I get frustrated by the lack of options on offer especially in such a large and well visited town.

"Our lease will begin in January but as the venue is currently not a cafe, we will be totally kitting it out but we are hoping to open February time. We have lots to plan including menus, suppliers, new staff and also designing the cafe from scratch.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23800934.dog-friendly-plant-powered-cafe-open-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways........Craig-y-Don.
Post by: SteveH on September 21, 2023, 09:29:33 am
TWO friends who met on the school run 15 years ago have taken over the reins of a much-loved cafe.

Alexandria Mia Geeson, 50, and Jennifer Claire Dallaway, 43, are the new owners of Coffee V in Craig-y-Don.

Alexandria, of Penrhynside, and Jennifer, of Glan Conwy, have already put their own stamp on the business. Opening hours have been extended, the interior has been decorated and pair plan to host event in the evening over the coming months.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23798656.friends-take-much-loved-cafe-craig-y-don/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways......Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2023, 09:59:58 am
A BUILDING in Llandudno that is home to two businesses has gone on the market.

The site, which occupies both 5 Gloddaeth Street and 5 George Street, is home to Dinos Cafe & Restaurant and hair salon MODE Male Image.

The property is now on the market with estate agent St David?s Commercial, for a price of 255,000 pounds

The ground floor investment would not see the businesses taken over, which are operating on leases Dinos lease runs out in 2035, while MODEs runs out in 2026.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23807768.llandudno-building-home-two-businesses-sale/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on September 28, 2023, 09:49:01 am
A RESTAURANT in Conwy was crowned the best in Wales this year at an UK-wide awards ceremony earlier this week.

The Jackdaw, on High Street, won restaurant of the year Wales at the prestigious AA Hospitality Awards, held at JW Marriott Grosvenor House in London on Monday evening (September 25).

Nick Rudge who opened The Jackdaw in 2021, said: Myself and the team are absolutely delighted to be recognised as AA restaurant of the year in Wales.

With there being so many amazing restaurants in Wales, its very humbling and a great honour.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23818019.conwy-restaurant-named-wales-best-2023-aa-hospitality-awards/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


photo The team from The Jackdaw receives its award at the AA Hospitality Awards 2023.
Title: Re: Welsh Hospitality Awards 2023: North Wales winners
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2023, 10:10:25 am
Welsh Hospitality Awards 2023: North Wales winners

BUSINESSES and individuals from the hospitality sector were celebrated during an awards ceremony.

The Welsh Hospitality Awards 2023 took place on Monday, October 2 at the Mercure Holland House Hotel in Cardiff.

The awards celebrate "excellence" in the country?s  hospitality industry and aim to highlight the "very best" hotels, restaurants, bars, spas, and more.

Among the winners were The Kinmel Arms in Abergele who won category - Boutique Hotel of the Year.

Llandudno Bay Hotel won Hotel Team of the Year and Sheeps and Leeks in Caernarfon scooped Casual Dining Restaurant of the Year North.

Full story  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23830288.welsh-hospitality-awards-2023-north-wales-winners/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways........Best restaurant in Wales
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2023, 10:45:58 am
A RESTAURANT in Llandudno has been named as a finalist for the best restaurant in Wales prize at this year?s Italian Awards.
Mamma Rosa, based at 11 Mostyn Avenue, will discover if it wins the award at a ceremony at The Queens Hotel in Leeds on Sunday (October 8).

The family-run Italian business is run by couple Sam and Rebecca Ricketts, and not only serves a selection of pizzas and pastas, but also afternoon tea.

Sam and Rebecca took on the business not long before the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.

Mamma Rosa said: Well, what can we say... apart from a big thank you to all who voted for us!

And a massive thank you to all of the staff for their unbelievably hard work that they have put in to help us along the way. Let's see what happens

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23838726.llandudno-restaurant-finalist-best-wales-italian-awards/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2023, 10:24:07 am
A MEMBER of the Scaletta family - who ran and owned Alfredo?s for more than 30 years - has joined the team at Number 25 Bar & Bistro kitchen team.

Jerome Scaletta has joined the Italian restaurant in Rhos-on-Sea [previously known as La Dolce Vita Italia] as senior sous chef. He will work alongside chef Jacek Korniak.

A spokesperson for Number 25 Bar & Bistro said: "We are absolutely thrilled to announce that Jerome Scaletta has joined the Number 25 Bar & Bistro kitchen team. Jerome has come to us from Alfredo's in Conwy, where he worked alongside his father for an impressive 27 years to bring the best Italian food to North Wales. He will now be working with our chef Jacek (right) who has been an integral part of La Dolce Vita for the past 17 years.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23838389.number-25-bar-bistro-welcomes-jerome-scaletta-alfredos/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 12, 2023, 09:42:45 am
Five Llandudno businesses handed new food hygiene ratings

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: Venue Cymru at The Parade, Llandudno; rated on September 27
Rated 5: Dewi?s Community Kitchen at Ty Llewelyn, Ffordd Yr Orsedd, Llandudno; rated on September 7
Rated 5: Carlo's at 2 Pleasant Street, Craig Y Don, Llandudno; rated on September 19

Takeaways
Rated 5: Tango Ice Blast at Llandudno Pier, North Parade, Llandudno; rated on September 20
Rated 5: The Godfather at Penrhyn House, 20 Augusta Street, Llandudno; rated on September 19
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on October 14, 2023, 03:59:43 pm
I had a very tasty breakfast in Talgoed Nursery Glan Conwy this morning.   The price had risen to ?4.00 since our last visit but it is still a bargain.   Delicious food, very friendly staff and a nice atmosphere no wonder the place was full, we'll be back there again next week
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.......Rhos on Sea
Post by: SteveH on October 16, 2023, 10:08:45 am
A POPULAR cafe in Rhos-on-Sea caf? reopened today (October 12), shortly after winning a TripAdvisor Travellers Choice Award 2023.

Marmalade Kitchen, at 14 Rhos Road, was recognised for its popularity with customers, with the award given annually to businesses that consistently receive ?Excellent? and ?Very Good? ratings from their customers.

The caf? closed on October 2 for refurbishment work, wishing to ?spruce up? ahead of the hectic Christmas season, with today?s reopening ?very busy?.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23851921.rhos-on-sea-cafe-reopens-fresh-off-winning-travellers-choice-award/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2023, 09:50:03 am
Welsh indy coffee shops guide includes host of local cafes
See if your favourite has made the guide dedicated to Wales? booming coffee culture

The best spots to drink and buy speciality coffee has been compiled in the first guide dedicated to Wales? booming coffee culture. Indy Coffee Guide Wales features independent Welsh coffee shops, cafes, roasteries and trainers.

They've named 60 outstanding indie businesses serving a top-notch brew - including a decent number in North Wales. The full list is below if you want to check if your favourite has been added.................

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/welsh-indy-coffee-shops-guide-27944307?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 24, 2023, 09:29:31 am
A LIVE music and magic bar in Llandudno said they are ?very grateful? to have been nominated for two tourism awards.

The Magic Bar Live, on Clonmel Street, has been shortlisted for the final of two categories, ?New Tourism Business of the Year award? and the ?Resilience and Innovation Award?, at the Go North Wales Tourism Awards.

The winners will be announced on November 23, but the establishment?s two nominations surely bode well ahead of the ceremony.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23874131.llandudno-bar-nominated-two-go-north-wales-awards/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2023, 09:53:21 am
Environment: What will plastic ban mean for takeaway prices?

Kebab shops along Cardiff's most famous takeaway street have said they are prepared for a ban on single-use plastics - but it could mean pricier takeaways.

Disposable plastic cutlery and trays are among the commonly littered products being outlawed in Wales.

Several traders spoke of a scramble in recent weeks to get hold of more expensive eco-friendly alternatives.

It follows similar bans in England and Scotland.

The Welsh government said the changes - which take effect on Monday - would help tackle "the damaging flow of plastic waste" into the environment.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67238310
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.......Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on November 01, 2023, 10:31:58 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been given to four businesses in Colwyn Bay, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

The food hygiene rating scheme gives businesses in England and Wales a rating of 0-5, 5 being the highest, based on their hygiene standards.

The scheme is run in partnership with local authorities and in Wales businesses are obligated to display their rating.

The following businesses were given ratings:                             ref pioneer

Rated 4: Top Tasty at 425 Abergele Road, Old Colwyn; assessed on September 25
Rated 4: Sheldons Cafe Bar Ltd at 8 Penrhyn Road; assessed on September 19
Rated 3: Colwyn Bay Kebab at 26 Abergele Road; assessed on August 17
Rated 3: Colwyn Spice Hut at 361 Abergele Road, Old Colwyn; assessed on September 14
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 07, 2023, 09:53:22 am
A Welsh restaurant has been named the best in the country at a glitzy award ceremony in Dubai. The World Culinary Awards are held every year and reward excellence in the dining industry across the world. As well as overall global winners, awards are also handed out to restaurants from each country represented at the event, as well as a prizes for the top hotel restaurants in each nation. Experts and members of the public were invited to vote online to select the winners.

The best restaurant in Wales award was given to Signatures in Conwy, which also won the prize at the 2022 event, which was held at the Atlantis Royal in Dubai. The restaurant beat off competition from Michelin star rivals in Wales. The best restaurant in England was named as The Fat Duck, which is run by TV chef and personality Heston Blumenthal.

cont https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/restaurant-named-best-wales-glitzy-28051840?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.............Rhos on Sea
Post by: SteveH on November 11, 2023, 10:54:45 am
A BUILDING that is home to a popular caf? in Rhos-on-Sea has been sold, but the business remains on the market.  refpioneer

The three-storey building, at 14 Rhos Road, is occupied by Marmalade Kitchen, a restaurant and caf? that is also for sale.

The site, comprised of the caf? area and a five?bed maisonette, was on the market with estate agent St David's Commercial for ?150,000 but has now been snapped up.

Meanwhile, Marmalade remains on the market, having been put up for sale in May.

The family-run caf? is up for sale for ?224,995, and offers a diverse range of food and drink options and also caters for delivery with a separate ?meals on wheels? menu.

The business is owned by Sophie Reynolds, who also runs clothing shop Ellekat and accessory/gift store EK&Co.

It recently underwent an extensive refurbishment, and is on the market with Rhos-on-Sea-based Wynne Davies Estate Agents, whose described its listing as a ?rare opportunity to purchase one of the best reviewed, very well presented and established cafe/ restaurant in Rhos On Sea.?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2023, 10:01:32 am
A POPULAR caf? in Llandudno is set to close next month, saying the decision was made with a ?heavy heart?.             refpioneer

Emjays Caf?, in The Mall Shopping Arcade at 39 Mostyn Street, announced it will cease trading from December 24 due to ?personal reasons?.

The owners said the caf? was now available to buy, with ?wonderful customers and a warm, cosy atmosphere?.

In a social media notice to customers, Emjays Caf? said: ?It's with a heavy heart that we have decided to close Emjays Cafe due to personal reasons.

?However, the opportunity to buy the cafe is available.
?It's a wonderful little cafe with amazing customers and a warm, cosy atmosphere.
?If you are interested, please message the page privately, and more details will be provided.

?Our last day of trading will be the 24th of December.

?Thank you so much to all our customers - this decision has been extremely difficult to make.?
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 15, 2023, 10:09:27 am
A BAR and bistro restaurant at a luxury lodge park in Conwy which opened earlier this year is set to expand by welcoming the general public.

The Swallow?s Nest, at Conwy Lodge Park, has been exclusively for park owners so far, but will open up to the public from Friday, November 24.

Based on Llanrwst Road, the park is situated among 100 acres of woodland in the Conwy Valley, overlooking the River Conwy.

At The Swallow?s Nest, the menu includes stone-baked pizzas, Welsh steak and vegetable pie, home-made Welsh beef lasagne, braised Welsh lamb shank, and more.

Its ingredients are sourced from across North Wales, while the bar offers a range of drinks from fresh barista coffee to cocktails and ales.

?The Swallow?s Nest is still going to be closed when the park itself is shut, in January and February, but will re-open to all again in March. It?s going to be a bookings-only restaurant.?

For more information on The Swallow?s Nest or on Conwy Lodge Park itself, visit: www.conwylodgepark.co.uk.

?We?re busy there with the park owners all the time. We do Sunday dinners, cooked breakfasts, all country-style sort of things.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23924443.new-bar-restaurant-conwy-lodge-park-open-general-public/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2023, 10:11:18 am
A CAF? in Colwyn Bay and a chippy in Conwy have each received a 2023-24 ?Good Food Award? for caf?s and fish and chips respectively.

HAUS Coffee, on Penrhyn Road, and Fishermans Chip Shop, on Castle Street, were given the awards, which have celebrated culinary excellence across the UK since 2002.

READ MORE:  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23923479.colwyn-bay-cafe-conwy-fish-chip-shop-earn-good-food-award/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 22, 2023, 10:10:41 am
A noted North Wales restaurant in a Victorian manor house has closed suddenly. The Manor Conwy?s website shut down abruptly just days after Christmas menus were unveiled and festive bookings taken.

The restaurant and bar, on the outskirts of Conwy town, is owned by the Gorse Hill Caravan and Lodge Park but it is run by tenants as an arms-length business. Park owner Rob Thomas-Evelyn believes all bookings have since been refunded but he pledged to personally deal with inquiries should anyone feel they have slipped through the net.

He said: ?The tenants had been here 18 months but they gave me just three days' notice they were leaving a week last Sunday. I understand the decision was financial.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/top-restaurant-shuts-refunds-christmas-28148496?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on November 25, 2023, 10:01:02 am
Green fingers make LLandudno botanical cafe a sweet treat to remember
This bustling plant paradise features in the Indy Coffee Guide Wales

Botanical Babe Plants is a houseplant shop and caf? located in Llandudno. They sell a large range of houseplants and offer workshops including terrarium-making classes and re-potting sessions.

Tesni, the owner, started the business during the pandemic and began by selling cuttings of her plants. She also offers tips on keeping them alive, which would be an essential bit of info for me.

The caf? was recently named as one of the best spots to drink and buy speciality coffee. Botanical Babe was in the first guide dedicated to Wales' booming coffee culture.

Indy Coffee Guide Wales featured independent Welsh coffee shops, cafes, roasteries and trainers and ?Botanical Babe? was named as one of the businesses serving a top-notch brew. The caf? on Mostyn Street certainly grabs your attention as the place is packed full of plants and is an oasis of green leaves and nature.
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/greenfingers-make-llandudno-botanical-cafe-28138956?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Former deli site in Llandudno remains empty after business move
The 5 Lloyd Street property was previously home to The Ham Bone, a popular deli, for several years before being taken over by Feasterz, a burger and milkshake business.

The site is now vacant after the latter moved, with potential for a caf? and restaurant space with a possibility of securing an alcohol licence.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23946998.former-deli-site-llandudno-remains-empty-business-move/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 13, 2023, 09:54:15 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been handed nine businesses in Llandudno and Conwy, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

The food hygiene rating scheme gives businesses in England and Wales a rating of 0-5, 5 being the highest, based on their hygiene standards.

The scheme is run in partnership with local authorities and in Wales businesses are obligated to display their rating.

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: Coffee V at 18 Mostyn Avenue, Craig-y-Don, Llandudno; rated on November 14
Rated 5: Inglenook at 2 Vaughan Street, Llandudno; rated on November 10
Rated 5: Jona's Kitchen (Oriel Cafe) at 10-12 Vaughan Street, Llandudno; rated on November 10
Rated 5: Merry Moon Bubble Tea at 151 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on November 9
Rated 5: Telfords Bistro Ltd at 26 Castle Street, Conwy; rated on August 31

Takeaways
Rated 5: Chish N Fips at 11 Victoria Street, Craig Y Don, Llandudno; rated on November 28
Rated 5: Panku at Asda Supermarket, Conway Road, Llandudno; rated on November 22
Rated 4: FIVE, at 5 Castle Street, Conwy; rated on October 26
Rated 3: Fu House, at 136 Conway Road, Llandudno Junction; rated on October 16
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways....Turkish restaurant to open
Post by: SteveH on December 15, 2023, 12:15:56 pm
RENOVATION WORK is being undertaken at the site of a former caf? in Llandudno, with a Turkish restaurant set to open there soon.

The ground floor site, on the corner of Arvon Avenue and Gloddaeth Street, is part of the Travelodge complex at the old Clarence Hotel building.

The corner plot was last occupied by the Eagles Continental Caf? in 2018, and has remained empty since.

However, the site is being renovated ahead of the opening of Istanbul Restaurant Caf? Bar & Grill, whose sign simply says it will be ?opening soon?.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23989429.turkish-restaurant-open-llandudno-site-renovated/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways......Rhos on Sea
Post by: SteveH on December 23, 2023, 10:26:24 am
Number 25 review: New and 'classy' Italian bar and bistro already a hit with locals
Julie Richards-Williams had high expectations for this newcomer and she wasn't disappointed

Excellent food and drink in a stylish contemporary setting- all this and more is on offer at Number 25, a family friendly bistro and bar that is fast becoming the top spot to wine and dine Italian style in the picturesque village of Rhos-on-Sea in Conwy.

Whether you want just a coffee, a quiet drink and nibbles with friends, a big birthday bash or a romantic dinner for two, there?s something for everyone, as my friend Nerys and I found when we put the recently opened venue to the test.

Formerly known as La Dolce Vita, a popular Italian restaurant in the centre of Penrhyn Avenue for some three decades, early in 2023 it was bought by New Zealand born Grant Hamilton and his wife Kate, who transformed the place, giving it a classy modern image.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/number-25-review-new-classy-28316489?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on December 31, 2023, 09:44:15 am
Six North Wales pubs looking for a new landlord in 2024

Many of our pubs have been the heart of our communities for centuries. We have lost quite a few over recent years, but the ones that remain play an important role in many people's lives.

There are a number of pubs on the market in North Wales, with plenty of potential opportunities for the next generation of business-minded people. They range from a hub in the centre of Machynlleth to a double-fronted property in Llanrwst, and the The Dudley Arms, Llandrillo

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/six-north-wales-pubs-looking-28362241?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.....food hygiene ratings
Post by: SteveH on January 03, 2024, 10:18:47 am
Nine Conwy businesses handed new food hygiene ratings           pioneert

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: The Sandwich Boutique at 13 Conway Road, Colwyn Bay; rated on December 7
Rated 5: Dylan's Restaurant at 9-13 High Street, Conwy; rated on November 23
Rated 4: Blue Elephant at 96-98 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on November 20
Rated 2: Dionyssos Resto at 11 Everard Road, Rhos-on-Sea; rated on November 16
Rated 2: We Cycle at Conway Road, Llandudno Junction; rated on November 23

Pubs, bars and nightclubs
Rated 5: Colwyn Bay & District Club Ltd at 31 Coed Pella Road, Colwyn Bay; rated on December 13

Takeaways
Rated 4: Squires at 2a Llandudno Road, Penrhyn Bay; rated on November 20
Rated 3: Dynasty Chinese Takeaway at 78 Abergele Road, Colwyn Bay; rated on November 23
Rated 2: The Byre at 160 Conway Road, Colwyn Bay; rated on August 3
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 10, 2024, 10:18:11 am
A CHINESE restaurant in Llandudno has closed ahead of a move to a new location in the town, which it hopes to complete in the coming months.

Tops Chinese Restaurant, which was based at 43 Mostyn Avenue, will open at 7 Carmen Sylva Road.

The business told the Pioneer that builders were working on getting the new site ready, and that they hoped to open in ?a couple months?.

Tops is highly-rated and has established a dedicated customer base since opening in 2013.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24037606.chinese-restaurant-llandudno-reopen-new-location/

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 13, 2024, 09:22:11 am
Restaurants: Fears for future after spate of closures in Wales

Industry insiders fear a bleak future for Wales' restaurants following a spate of new year closures.

Cardiff's Kindle, Brass Beetle, along with the Conway pub, all announced they were shutting as a result of rising costs.

Now calls are being made for the Welsh government to rethink plans to cut rates relief from 75% to 40%.

The Welsh government said it was giving ?134m in rates support next year on top of permanent schemes worth ?250m.

In the draft budget in December, as well as announcing plans to slash rate relief from 75% to 40%, it said business rates would rise 5%.

In England rate relief will remain 75%.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67961150
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2024, 09:50:03 am
Welsh Government accused of dealing 'hammer blow' to shops, restaurants and pubs in rates snub
Discount does not match that in England but minister defends decision as calls grow for u-turn

In the draft budget the Welsh Government took the decision to only reduce rates by 40% for 2024/25 and use the money saved on public services. This comes at a time when pubs and restaurants are closing every single day across Wales and the rest of the UK.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-government-accused-dealing-hammer-28456754
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways.......Craig-y-Don.
Post by: SteveH on January 21, 2024, 10:04:38 am
Some venues are an instant success with the public - so it was with Someplace Else, a cosy wine bar and restaurant that is adding an extra dimension to the social scene in Craig-y-Don.

 In just a few short months this independent family owned establishment has gone from being an unknown newcomer to one of the top spots to eat and drink in the Llandudno area, with a strong local following plus an increasing number of customers recommended by neighbouring guest house owners.

Delicious home cooked food, wines, drinks and service to match are on offer six days a week and prices won?t break the bank

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/someplace-else-craig-y-don-28468083?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 27, 2024, 10:20:23 am
The Jackdaw Conwy named among the best restaurants in the UK

The Jackdaw Conwy - located in Conwy - was revealed as the 24th best restaurants on the list.

SquareNeak said the restaurant blends "modern British and Welsh techniques and flavours in a smart, contemporary dining room".

Describing the Conwy-based establishment, the restaurant experts added: "The Jackdaw name has special significance in Conwy, North Wales - Jackdaw (or jac-do in Welsh), is the nickname given to a person born within the walls of Conwy town, taken from the jackdaws which can be found nesting in the walls of the town and castle.

read more https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24077601.conwy-restaurant-named-among-best-uk-2024/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on January 30, 2024, 09:57:53 am
A POPULAR Italian restaurant is officially on the market.

Mamma Rosa, on 11 Mostyn Avenue, Craig-y-Don, Llandudno, made the "difficult decision" last year to put the restaurant up for sale.

The leasehold is on the market for ?50,000 with Dafydd Hardy Estate Agents.

There is also a two-bedroom apartment on the second floor.

A description of the property says: "A two-storey established licensed restaurant premises, trading as Mamma Rosa.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24083269.much-loved-family-restaurant-craig-y-don-sale/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 01, 2024, 10:01:39 am
PREPARATIONS are well underway to open Llandudno's first 'plant powered cafe' which will also be dog friendly.
Sara Turner, who owns Green Island Bistro on Rhuddlan High Street, is aiming to open Pip & Oat in February.

She is moving into a unit on Clonmel Street, previously Precious Memories Photograph

Speaking ahead of the new venture, Sara said: "Preparations are going well. We've had to fit all new equipment in the property such as plumbing and kitchen so this has taken the most time.

"We will be serving a range of light bites, hot food, cakes, snacks, coffees, teas and cold drinks. All our food and drink will be plant based and nut free, with gluten free options too and the cafe will also be dog friendly."
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24087572.plant-powered-cafe-pip-oat-llandudno-open-soon/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


The Waterfront in Rhos-on-Sea placed on the market
A MUCH-loved cafe previously known as Nino's is up for sale.

The Leasehold (premium) for The Waterfront, in Rhos-on-Sea, is on the market for ?195,000 with St Davids Commercial.

The business was established in 1948 and was "modernised" in November 2020.

A description into the property on St Davids Commercial says: "100 per cent Prime Restaurant/Caf? for sale as a going concern. Undoubtedly one of the finest locations in the area overlooking the bay and the fabulous beaches that Rhos-on-Sea has to offer.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24087743.waterfront-rhos-on-sea-placed-market/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589



Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 02, 2024, 09:09:21 am
The Senedd rebuffed calls for the Welsh Government to reverse plans to slash business rates relief for the retail, hospitality and leisure sectors - in a move described as "death sentence" for some in the sector. Peter Fox led a Conservative debate, raising concerns about business rates relief falling from 75% to 40% under Welsh ministers? draft 2024-25 spending plans.

The MS urged the Welsh Government to use money from Westminster to support businesses and protect jobs by keeping the 75% rate. Mr Fox warned that businesses in Wales will pay almost twice as much in non-domestic rates than if they were based in England.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/death-sentence-pubs-restaurants-senedd-28553778
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 03, 2024, 10:06:50 am
YouTube star BeardMeatsFood   https://www.youtube.com/@Beardmeatsfood   took on 'impossible' biggest breakfast in Wales and the eyes said it all
No-one had even attempted it before - then along came Adam Moran, also known as BeardMeatsFood

He?s taken on the world?s biggest creme egg, tackled a 20-inch baguette and defeated Scotland?s biggest burger. YouTuber Adam Moran has even seen off the legendary Octuple Bypass Burger at the Heart Attack Grill in Las Vegas.

For his latest encounter with Desperate Dan food, he headed to North Wales for a new eating challenge that has never before been undertaken, let alone completed. You'll find it at Anne?s Kitchen in Mochdre, Conwy, and it involves sitting down for a monster Full Welsh breakfast weighing in at an estimated 10,000 calories.

The 38-year-old from Leeds, better known as BeardMeatsFood, has earned the title of Britain?s number one competitive eater. His YouTube channel has 3.65m followers and he?s so popular that he?s taken out a ?1 million insurance policy on his stomach and tastebuds.

After setting up his cameras, staff served up a meal that contained eight of everything: bacon rashers, sausages, eggs, hash browns, fried bread and black puddings. On the side were beans, saut?ed potatoes, mushrooms and tomatoes. All had to be washed down with eight slices of toast and a litre of milky coffee.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/youtube-star-beardmeatsfood-took-impossible-28544844
Title: Re: NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded 13 businesses in Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on February 04, 2024, 10:05:52 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded 13 businesses in Llandudno, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

The food hygiene rating scheme gives businesses in England and Wales a rating of 0-5, 5 being the highest, based on their hygiene standards.

The scheme is run in partnership with local authorities and in Wales businesses are obligated to display their rating.

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: Llandudno grill ?n? shakes at 147 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on October 12
Rated 5: Coast Cafe at Waterside, Colwyn Road, Llandudno; rated on August 15
Rated 5: Nana's Fish & Chips at 18 Chapel Street, Llandudno; rated on August 15
Rated 5: Upper Crust at Bryn Y Mor Hotel, 25 North Parade, Llandudno; rated on August 15
Rated 5: Wok?n?Roll, Thai Noodle Bar at 106b Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on August 15
Rated 5: Ormo Lounge at 2-6 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on July 28
Rated 5: Town House at 64 Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on December 13
Rated 4: Kava Cafe at 102-104 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on November 28
Rated 4: Johnny Dough's Llandudno at 129 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on November 28

Takeaways
Rated 4: Orient Express Cafe Restaurant at 8 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on December 5
Rated 4: Dinos Llandudno at 5 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on December 13
Rated 4: Indian Kitchen at 15 Ffordd Las, Llandudno; rated on January 11
Rated 2: New Hong Kong Takeaway at 19 Augusta Street, Llandudno; rated on December 5
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2024, 09:27:54 am
The Midland will close its tapas restaurant in Conwy. It was revealed in early December that the restaurant on Castle Street was up for lease due to a "relocation".

Now bosses have confirmed it will close on Sunday, February 11. The Midland restaurant in Beaumaris is not affected.

They blamed the cost of living crisis as well as the impending reduction in business rates support from Welsh Government from April. Welsh Government took the decision in the draft budget in December to reduce rates support for retail, hospitality and leisure from 75% to 40% for 2024/25 - a decision slammed by businesses and opposition parties.

The Midland said: "With profound regret, we must announce the closure of our Midland Conwy restaurant from Sunday 11th February. This difficult decision has been looming over us, exacerbated by the cost of living crisis that has notably impacted the hospitality sector and, in turn, our valued patrons.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/midland-close-tapas-restaurant-conwy-28609350
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: Hugo on February 19, 2024, 05:40:33 pm
I had lunch at the Toad in Colwyn Bay on Saturday for the first time since just before lockdown in 2020.    It was good to be back there and the place still retains its old charm and the food was delicious too.
I won't leave it so long before I go next time but Covid and an arson attack on the place accounted for the lost years
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 20, 2024, 09:30:12 am
I had lunch at the Toad in Colwyn Bay on Saturday for the first time since just before lockdown in 2020.    It was good to be back there and the place still retains its old charm and the food was delicious too.
I won't leave it so long before I go next time but Covid and an arson attack on the place accounted for the lost years
Good to hear that it is open again, hope all goes well for them................


Popular Llandudno pub closes for two weeks for 'TLC'   pioneer
The Cottage Loaf, at Market Street, is closed for two weeks from today (February 19) for what the business said was some 'well earned TLC'.

The business apologised to customers for any inconvenience the closure would cause.

In a notice to customers on social media, The Cottage Loaf said: "We will be closed for two weeks from Monday whilst some well earned TLC and a few maintenance jobs take place in the pub.
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2024, 10:15:25 am
THIS week the Great British Menu will feature some of the brightest talents from Wales.

Tonight's episode (Tuesday, February 20) will see three newcomers join the competition.

These include Corrin Harrison from mid-Wales, who has spent most of his career at one of the UK?s best restaurants, Ynyshir, and has just set up a sister restaurant to it in Machynlleth.

From Llandudno is inventive chef, Nick Rudge. After training under Heston Blumenthal, he created a takeaway business during lockdown in 2021. It was a sell-out success, so he opened his own restaurant in Conwy, The Jackdaw, creating surprising dishes.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24130982.conwy-chef-nick-rudge-competes-great-british-menu/
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 27, 2024, 09:52:53 am
BUSINESSES from across the North Wales coastline have been represented among the finalists for prizes at the 2024 Food Awards Wales.

These awards look to honour the top culinary destinations in Wales, while recognising the hard work of those committed to providing the country with the freshest of products.

They also show off the best restaurants, takeaways, pubs, hotel restaurants, cafes and bistros, as well as those who help explore new flavours and cuisines from different cultures.

cont / list of winners ..........  https://www.denbighshirefreepress.co.uk/news/24144179.food-awards-wales-conwy-denbighshire-gwynedd-anglesey-finalists/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on February 29, 2024, 09:53:47 am
AN AWARD winning vegan bistro in Rhuddlan is up for two more gongs!

Green Island Bistro on Rhuddlan High Street, owned by Sara Turner, has been nominated for both the 'Best Vegetarian Establishment' and 'Vegan Restaurant of the Year' in the Food Awards Wales 2024.

The awards look to honour the top culinary destinations in Wales.

Sara said: "We are nominated for both Best Vegetarian Establishment and Vegan Restaurant of the Year. Best vegan establishment is a new category which is fantastic to see and it would mean so much for us to win either category, especially as there are only a couple of businesses included from North Wales.

Sara recently opened Llandudno's first 'plant powered cafe' - Pip & Oat.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24151663.rhuddlans-green-island-bistro-shortlisted-two-awards/

Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 12, 2024, 10:11:14 am
THE leaseholder of a popular pub in Colwyn Bay has criticised the chancellor for putting ?another huge nail into the hospital industry coffin? through the Spring Budget.

Jeremy Hunt MP confirmed on March 6 that, from April, the amount small businesses can earn before they must register to pay VAT will rise from ?85,000 to ?90,000.

This will mark the first time this rate has increased in the past seven years, but Pete Hammond, of The Toad, on West Promenade, said VAT is ?absolutely killing the industry?.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24176981.colwyn-bay-pub-leaseholder---budget-puts-nail-hospitality-coffin/


Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways
Post by: SteveH on March 25, 2024, 10:03:00 am
The worrying response to restaurant's candid post after one of 'quietest days ever'
It is well documented that the hospitality industry has been hit hard recently with several prominent businesses shutting up shop

A Welsh restaurant has shared that they experienced "one of the quietest days" they've ever had this week in a bid to reassure struggling businesses that they are not alone. Catch 22 Brasserie in Anglesey shared the candid post on their social media page amid the hospitality industry's ongoing crisis.

In the first three months of 2024 alone, growing numbers of prominent restaurants in Wales have announced their closures amid the perfect storm of changes to business rates and the increased cost of living. And for those who are managing to stay afloat, it seems that footfall is lower than ever.

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Title: Re: Cafes, Restaurants, Pubs & Takeaways...New food hygiene ratings
Post by: SteveH on March 27, 2024, 09:51:57 am
NEW food hygiene ratings have been awarded to 19 businesses in Llandudno, the Food Standards Agency?s website shows.

Restaurants, cafes and canteens
Rated 5: Kava Caf?, at 102-104 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on January 29
Rated 5: Dylans, at The Washington, The Parade, Llandudno; rated on January 23
Rated 5: KFC, at 37 Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on January 22
Rated 5: Rousta's Greek Restaurant, at 12 Mostyn Avenue, Llandudno; rated on March 1
Rated 5: Subway, at 16 Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on January 16
Rated 5: Harvey's New York Bar & Grill, at 72 Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on February 21
Rated 5: St Georges Plaice, at 3 St. Georges Place, Llandudno; rated on February 14
Rated 5: Indulge Restaurant, at 39-41 Madoc Street, Llandudno; rated on March 4
Rated 5: Providero, at 112 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on March 4
Rated 5: White Tower, at 25 Lloyd Street, Llandudno; rated on February 28
Rated 5: Mostyn Tandoori, at The Mall, 39 Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on February 27
Rated 3: Blue Elephant, at 96-98 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno; rated on November 20
Rated 3: The Looking Glass, at 100 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on February 14
Rated 2: Caffe Nero, at 81-83a Mostyn Street, Llandudno; rated on January 17

Pubs, bars and nightclubs
Rated 5: Ascot Taproom, at 3 Victoria Buildings, Mostyn Avenue, Llandudno; rated on February 5
Rated 5: Cross Keys Inn, at Pendre Road, Penrhynside, Llandudno; rated on February 5
Rated 5: Llandudno Cricket Club at Llandudno Cricket Club Sports Pavilion, The Oval, Llandudno; rated on February 14
Rated 5: The Nevill, at Vaughan Street, Llandudno; rated on March 13
Rated 5: Llandudno FC Clubhouse, at Maesdu Park, Builder Street, Llandudno; rated on March 12