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Title: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2010, 02:17:29 PM
This is an idea for a thread which I've seen used on caergybi.com, in which Llandudno residents can pass on all those little snippets of information, news, gossip, weather etc that aren't really important enough for their own thread but helps to give those people living away from the town a feel for what its like in Llandudno right now. People can add in photos to their posts, if desired. I'll kick things off below.

DaveR
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2010, 02:20:15 PM
The August Bank Holiday was probably the busiest day of the Season here in Llandudno, the town centre, promenade and pier were absolutely jam packed with people. Good to see everyone enjoying themselves and all the town's traders doing well.

Couple of photos:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4941985245_b90f9fbcac.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4941985245/

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4941817825_494165a973.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4941817825/

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4942642720_ddba54cfe5.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4942642720/

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 10:30:03 AM
Something was going on in Upper Mostyn Street about 4pm yesterday. 3 police cars, 1 paramedic and an ambulance were at the flat next to the B W Ryder shop.
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Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 03:25:50 PM
Well, the weather has been getting better every day this week - blazing sunshine, feeling very warm, and the town still very busy with visitors. Im enjoying a coffee outside cafe culture, what a lovely day
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Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
I hear that the old Fruit & Veg shop (The Good Life?) on Upper Mostyn Street (mext to the Con Club) is to become a Mens Barber.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2010, 08:36:48 PM
Where's this rough weather come from? Blowing a gale and bucketing down at the moment!  Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2010, 09:04:15 PM
When has it been any different Dave?
I've been keeping records of my shop takings in relation to the weather per day.
As you know, my living is intrinsically linked to the weather (as is Mike's on his Golf Course)
My records show that over the last 42 days, there were only SIX which I could consider to be great weather.

The Great British Summer eh?  ...and its forecast to be like this for a good while yet!   :weeping:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2010, 09:19:41 PM
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When has it been any different Dave?
I've been keeping records of my shop takings in relation to the weather per day.
As you know, my living is intrinsically linked to the weather (as is Mike's on his Golf Course)
My records show that over the last 42 days, there were only SIX which I could consider to be great weather.

The Great British Summer eh?  ...and its forecast to be like this for a good while yet!   :weeping:
Well, you are halfway up a pier mate!

In town, the weather has been pretty good. I've been able to sit out cafes every weekday for the past month, bar one day I think.  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2010, 11:50:55 PM
I'm Jealous Dave....what a great life you lead.  Z**
The wind has been the main factor, and has caused havoc on the pier, 
As you say, Mrs Fester agrees....the wind does not really reach Mostyn St..
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2010, 08:41:07 AM
Lot of building work going on in the basement of the St Georges Hotel on the St Georges Place side (where the old health club was) and they've ripped out the garden along there too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2010, 04:27:00 PM
The Marine Drive is closed for a stage of the Tour Britannia Rally.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on September 12, 2010, 11:19:43 AM
It's a beautiful sunny Sunday morning with blue sky and blue sea.
(I have to admit it rained quite heavily earlier on).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2010, 03:18:02 PM
Yes, it's turned into a beautiful sunny afternoon, Llandudno is packed with people.

Fester pointed out to me that the Cable Car/Cabin Lift is closed yet again, yet it didnt seem that windy to me.  :huh1:

The Gresham pub was also closed, has that gone bust again?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on September 12, 2010, 04:04:40 PM
Traffic Accident - Conwy Road - Thursday evening

A 17 year old driver had since died.       Full details www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 13, 2010, 08:23:31 PM
Dave,
The Gresham was open and quite busy tonight and last night...
Strange that it was closed on a Sunday afternoon though?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2010, 08:43:49 PM
Yes, bit odd, maybe staffing problems?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 03:34:07 PM
There is a Hearse with a body in the back driving around town to promote the Rocky Horror Show at Venue Cymru from 20th - 25th Sept.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 04:23:16 PM
Worth seeing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on September 14, 2010, 04:26:41 PM
Which one? - the hearse or the show?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:08:06 PM
Just knew someone was going to ask that  WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on September 14, 2010, 05:24:50 PM
Why are there 2 topics called "What's Llandudno like right now", here and in Ask a Local? ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
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Why are there 2 topics called "What's Llandudno like right now", here and in Ask a Local? ???
There should only be one, really. Young Ian has been up to no good, I think. The Ask A Local one can be renamed something else and I shall do it now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:33:58 PM
Lots of work going on in the old Ethel Austin shop - looks as though it will be reopening soon, but as what...?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:37:58 PM
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Young Ian has been up to no good, I think.


 X:(( L0L

Hmmmm..wonder which one was started first....?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:39:24 PM
..and of course, neither was started by yours truly, of course.... WWW WWW WWW WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:40:38 PM
Methinks the Mac user doth protest too much...  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
Ah, my virus-ridden, Trojan-dodging, M$-bedevilled, poorly served PC friend;  we of the Mac fraternity shower unctuous blessings upon you.
 >>>

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:45:25 PM
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Trojan-dodging
I would never do such a thing, he's a good bloke.... <:<:<:<
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
 Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 14, 2010, 07:40:34 PM
 ??? Could the old Ethels be Animal clothing,who have been advertising for jobs :huh1:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 10:08:58 PM
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There is a Hearse with a body in the back driving around town to promote the Rocky Horror Show at Venue Cymru from 20th - 25th Sept.

Promo for the Show:

THE ROCKY HORROR SHOW - UK Tour TV Commercial (Sept 2010) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRpgc8ENPk#ws)
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Post by: Trojan on September 15, 2010, 01:47:37 AM
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Trojan-dodging
I would never do such a thing, he's a good bloke.... <:<:<:<

 8)



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 15, 2010, 04:37:45 PM
 ;)Smyths toys is ready to open on Saturday,i think this will really help LLandudno stay in touch with other shopping towns,unfortunately the town council are doing nothing extra to help the town with xmas lights,shame on the lot of you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2010, 04:42:58 PM
The old Ethel Austin shop looks to be opening as the Publishers Book Clearance or similar. They're looking for staff if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2010, 06:33:58 PM
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The old Ethel Austin shop looks to be opening as the Publishers Book Clearance or similar. They're looking for staff if anyone is interested.
My suspicions were correct.... ;D

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 17, 2010, 10:11:23 AM
It was being stocked with books yesterday, so should be opening soon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2010, 07:07:17 AM
 :) Burger King shop has a sold sign in the window,obviously this does not mean a new shop  will open but its a step in the right direction. :o       
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 23, 2010, 10:55:45 PM
 :) What take away  is applying too open at 135  upper mostyn st.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 01:35:45 PM
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:) Burger King shop has a sold sign in the window,obviously this does not mean a new shop  will open but its a step in the right direction. :o       
Definitely. It's starting to look quite shabby now, so hopefully a new owner will refurbish the outside.
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Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 01:45:15 PM
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:) What take away  is applying too open at 135  upper mostyn st.
135 Upper Mostyn Street is the old Merediths Alternative Goth Shop, next to Home Cooking. Planning application is for a restaurant/take away with outside tables/chairs:

1. Change of use of Retail Shop to Restaurant and Take-Away
2. External Alterations - Rear Yard - Flue Installation
3. Use of area under canopy - table and chairs for dining

Perhaps its a Tapas Bar...  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 24, 2010, 03:23:07 PM
Just what we need - yet another eatery!   _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 24, 2010, 03:32:39 PM
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Perhaps its a Tapas Bar...


Never tasted Tapas..nice?


 ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2010, 04:16:23 PM
I believe it was bought by the guy wh owns the 147 club.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 05:51:20 PM
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I believe it was bought by the guy wh owns the 147 club.
Was it you that was saying on the old forum that he wanted to make it an entrance into the club, Paddy?
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Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 05:52:13 PM
A fine day for a wedding....
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Post by: Fester on September 24, 2010, 06:27:51 PM
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Perhaps its a Tapas Bar...


Never tasted Tapas..nice?


 ???

I hope it IS a Tapas Bar. I really do.
Ian, I take it you are not a lover of Spanish holidays then?
If you were, you could hardly have avoided trying Tapas.

Small rations of local food,  it can be any combination, rices, fish, shellfish, chicken, sausage...its endless really.
But you only try a small amount, and pay a small amount, so you can try many different dishes.
Take a look at LaTasca,  the UK's leading chain in Tapas,  its a great concept and would do really well with old and young diners alike.

Mmmm  Tapas !

 <:> <:>






Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
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I believe it was bought by the guy wh owns the 147 club.
Was it you that was saying on the old forum that he wanted to make it an entrance into the club, Paddy?

It was suggested to me by Paul, who had the shop, that it was to be a dining area leading into the club.

I'd be surprised if permission was granted for a change of use but, if it's attached to the club which already has the necessary licenses, would permission be needed?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 24, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
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Ian, I take it you are not a lover of Spanish holidays then?

Never been to Spain. Fester.   Italy, Germany, France, Denmark, Iceland, USA, Greenland, Canada to name but eight - but not Spain.  Or Portugal.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 24, 2010, 07:52:51 PM
I did not mean to infer that you were not a well travelled man Sir!  On the contrary.

I have never been to Portugal either, but as a great lover of seafood, I keep promising myself that I will.

I like Spain, but not as much as I enjoyed China and India,  trouble is I was always on business, (in my former existence) and I never really got time to explore and appreciate them...

There is a lot more of the US I would love to get to also,  I have a yearning to visit Hawaii and will make that a priority in 2011.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on September 26, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
I'd really forgotten just how good a sunny September weekend can be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2010, 08:08:31 AM
I suspect it won't last  Z@@
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Post by: TheMedz on September 27, 2010, 09:34:42 AM
You called that one correctly Ian.
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Post by: Ian on September 27, 2010, 01:40:55 PM
So it seems....  :weeping:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on September 27, 2010, 07:11:22 PM
As far as I was concerned, this morning very,very peaceful. Not a single person on the golf course, not even a dog walker. Lunchtime, feeling very hungry. Noone around. So I decided, stick a few clubs and balls in a box, a note on the side, "play away, I'll be back shortly" and off I went to a favourite cafe.  Lovely steak pie, mash, carrots, peas, gravy. First mouthful and my phone rings. "Get back quick to your golf course, Theres a gentleman lobbing golf balls at my house---and hes just broken a window."  Me: "Ohh, Blo--- he--" Caller. "Yes. ----pause---- I got your number from the Llandudno forum---I'm a member!!!  Me  "OOOOhhhhhhh, fing blo--- he-- "   Anyone fancy a stone cold plate of steak pie?
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Post by: DaveR on September 27, 2010, 09:05:27 PM
And was there anyone up on the course when you got there?  :golf:
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Post by: ormegolf on September 27, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
Yes, indeed. The phone caller (who is a member of this forum, he gave me his username which I knew well.) But noone else. But I was two golf clubs and about half a dozen balls short, gone missing. That was a chance I took. He mentioned seeing a group of youngsters passing his house, I cannot tell you where because I'm not certain he wants the forum to know about this. Anyway, I caught up with a group of youngsters in the area---one of them knew me by name and I recognised him vaugely from being from Tyn y Coed area.  Anyway things were building up, I straight away said I would pay for the glass, but now it appears that the window is not easy to get at, the house is mega high. So, with his agreement, I called the Police. Also, whilst on the phone, I followed the group of 7 teenagers (I thought they were all in school, I wouldnt have left the clubs if I knew they were roaming at this early stage in the school year). They could see me on the phone, Police wanted a discription,  (Of all seven?) they walked fast, I walked fast, they speeded up, I attempted to speed up (but not too much, I didnt fancy being set about by seven fit 16 yr olds) despite everything we all ended up by Weatherspoons---end of story, they split up and that was it.   I was strongly tempted to go into Weatherspoons and forget about the whole thing!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on September 27, 2010, 10:08:19 PM
Pity there were no PCSO's patrolling the area.
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Post by: Fester on September 27, 2010, 10:59:45 PM
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Yes, indeed. The phone caller (who is a member of this forum, he gave me his username which I knew well.) But noone else. But I was two golf clubs and about half a dozen balls short, gone missing. That was a chance I took. He mentioned seeing a group of youngsters passing his house, I cannot tell you where because I'm not certain he wants the forum to know about this. Anyway, I caught up with a group of youngsters in the area---one of them knew me by name and I recognised him vaugely from being from Tyn y Coed area.  Anyway things were building up, I straight away said I would pay for the glass, but now it appears that the window is not easy to get at, the house is mega high. So, with his agreement, I called the Police. Also, whilst on the phone, I followed the group of 7 teenagers (I thought they were all in school, I wouldnt have left the clubs if I knew they were roaming at this early stage in the school year). They could see me on the phone, Police wanted a discription,  (Of all seven?) they walked fast, I walked fast, they speeded up, I attempted to speed up (but not too much, I didnt fancy being set about by seven fit 16 yr olds) despite everything we all ended up by Weatherspoons---end of story, they split up and that was it.   I was strongly tempted to go into Weatherspoons and forget about the whole thing!!!

Mike !!

This is disastrous news,  :o :oand enough to really get a lesser man down.

If you see them in future, I would be tempted to wrap one of your putters round thier heads!

Pick the biggest one, and the rest of the cowards will run like hell ...!!

There are scumbags everywhere, and they need sorting out.

 :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 06:02:19 PM
Couple of new businesses opening up in town....a shop called (I think) 'Stitch In' on Vaughan Street, a Nail Bar on Madoc Street (where Xpose Clothing was) and it looks as though one of the units in the Victoria Centre has been let, the one on the corner that used to be the Perfume Shop.

Gareth Roberts Opticians will be opening in their new premises on Mostyn Street very shortly, after breaking the World record for longest shop refurbishment.  :D

As Wrex has mentioned, the old Burger King unit has been sold.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 29, 2010, 06:13:30 PM
I was wondering if Mike had been having any more trouble with local yobs?

What has happened with the window breaking situation?  Surely Mike hasn't had to pay for this?

Finally ... I haven't noticed the sheep around in recent weeks.
Does anyone know why?
Have they all been penned back in for the winter perhaps?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2010, 08:02:58 PM
Funny you should say that, I too had noticed far less on my usual walks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 08:08:08 PM
Most of the escapees were rounded up and despatched to the abattoir. There may still be a few holdouts dodging the golfballs in Haulfre gardens.  :P
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Post by: ormegolf on September 29, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
A new business called "Stitch in."  Rather a strange name to pick----too close to "Stitch up" for my liking.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 08:28:51 PM
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A new business called "Stitch in."  Rather a strange name to pick----too close to "Stitch up" for my liking.
I may have got it wrong, it was certainly 'Stitch something'!  ;D Its in the old Baxters Photography shop on Vaughan Street.
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Post by: Fester on September 30, 2010, 12:04:32 AM
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A new business called "Stitch in."  Rather a strange name to pick----too close to "Stitch up" for my liking.

Mike ...is there some reason why you are choosing to ignore my earlier questions?
  .. if so, just tell me,  I'm married so well used to being ignored...

Fest.
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Post by: Ian on September 30, 2010, 07:43:29 AM
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"I met my wife in the tunnel of love  She was digging it..."
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Post by: Trojan on September 30, 2010, 10:06:00 AM
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"I met my wife in the tunnel of love  She was digging it..."

 L0L I love those one liners
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Post by: ormegolf on September 30, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
Fester----most certainly NOT. I don't often ignore anyone, I'm more likely to give them a piece of my mind than ignore. BUT I MOST DEFINATELY WOULD NEVER IGNORE YOU. Sorry you thought it possible.  Now I'll have to end this post so I can go back in the forum to find what you have been asking me!!!!   Hopefully my replieswill be sent in the next half hour  Mike
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Post by: ormegolf on September 30, 2010, 09:06:13 PM
Hello again, especially Fester. I found your queries, sorry I missed the page. No, no more trouble, I havent seen anyone really. Ive got the two clubs back---a local spotted them in the woods overlooking Haulfre Gardens, more or less in line with the "attacked" house. What I think has happened, someone spotted my box with the clubs and balls )that idea of honesty golfing----thats been abandoned)  They helped themselves as they walked down to Llandudno, when they got closer to town they just belted a few balls in the general direction of houses below and then threw the clubs away. It looks as if they were "shot" from outside my patch,  but only just. As to cost of repairing the window, well I must remind you that the broken window belongs to a fellow forum member and reader. As soon as I met him I accepted full responsibility, I should never have left the balls unattended!!!   Its in the hands of the Police now. You live and learn.   As to the sheep, sadly, for them, the only place you will see them now is on the lamb chop menue in Fountains.  Mike
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Post by: Fester on September 30, 2010, 10:03:10 PM
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Hello again, especially Fester. I found your queries, sorry I missed the page. No, no more trouble, I havent seen anyone really. Ive got the two clubs back---a local spotted them in the woods overlooking Haulfre Gardens, more or less in line with the "attacked" house. What I think has happened, someone spotted my box with the clubs and balls )that idea of honesty golfing----thats been abandoned)  They helped themselves as they walked down to Llandudno, when they got closer to town they just belted a few balls in the general direction of houses below and then threw the clubs away. It looks as if they were "shot" from outside my patch,  but only just. As to cost of repairing the window, well I must remind you that the broken window belongs to a fellow forum member and reader. As soon as I met him I accepted full responsibility, I should never have left the balls unattended!!!   Its in the hands of the Police now. You live and learn.   As to the sheep, sadly, for them, the only place you will see them now is on the lamb chop menue in Fountains.  Mike

Hi Mike,
I wondered if you were trying to blot out the issue from your memory.. I knew you wouldn't ignore me as such .. I was just interested to know what had transpired.
So there WAS actually a window broken then?
I have to say that I wouldn't have held you responsible ... its called either ''criminal damage'' or '' accidental damage'' ... and covered on ones house insurance.  Just a get a crime number from the hapless copper and away you go.
Instead I hope our fellow Forum member showed solidarity with you and assisted you in your pursuit of these hoodlums. (I am sure they did)
 $3towns$




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 01, 2010, 10:24:07 AM
Noticed this morning that Mainframe have now got goods displayed in the old 'Spanish Castles and Penumbra ' shop
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 01, 2010, 07:33:19 PM
 :o I was told last nite that the rent for the old halfords store is 200,000 a year rent,that is serious money. :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on October 01, 2010, 07:44:12 PM
Hello to Fester, This is getting towards a personal message board between us---perhaps I'll email anything else on this subject. I must say that I, personally, havent seen the broken window. Not that a broken window would mean very much---I am not suggesting for a minute that this has happened here, but IF anyone was devious enough, a window broken earlier on could be "pulled out of the hat" if anyone wanted compensation.  Ive had this done to me by a private car owner in Paris. Mirrors touched in the Champs Elise or whatever else its called. When I looked at the car, half the side was knocked in. I reckoned the driver did it weeks before and was just driving around until such time as he saw a large left hand drive bus somewhere, then just touched it.As to the group of seven youngsters---another possible suspect has come to light, nothing to do with them. This suspect fits into the facts a bit better. Unless the Police come up with something I doubt if I will ever find out for sure
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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
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:o I was told last nite that the rent for the old halfords store is 200,000 a year rent,that is serious money. :-X
No wonder its empty!  :o
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Post by: Fester on October 01, 2010, 08:07:01 PM
Mike ...

So you've had a bad experience with a mischievous French 'Driver' .... and now its due to an errant '7 Iron' ..

I don't know how you PUTT up with it !!

 L0L L0L _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
Well, Mike's used to it, of COURSE, but things like that would DRIVE us crazy...
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Post by: Fester on October 01, 2010, 08:53:35 PM
''Fairway'' .. sorry I main FairPlay to you .... I can imagine Mike feels a little 'Teed Off' ...and I wouldn't want this to drive a 'Wedge' between us !





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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2010, 09:22:25 PM
Run out of golf related puns, so will post this photo of the pier taken on Thursday which sums up the 'end of the season' feeling, I think:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5042717952_a1904ae42e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5042717952/)
Autumn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5042717952/) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Yorkie on October 01, 2010, 09:54:32 PM
Fester's VANISHING CREAM obviously works then!!!   L0L  _))*  L0L  _))* 
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Post by: Fester on October 01, 2010, 11:43:13 PM
There is more at work here than just end of season though ..
Because just look at the weather .. it was glorious,  but very few people in town,  and even less spending.

Let us not under-estimate the crushing effect of this recession (depression??) .. which will get only worse next year with HIGHER unemployment and HIGHER VAT rates...

I won't starve, (I don't think??) .. but brace yourselves for more and more empty shops...pubs etc..

 Z@@ Z@@ Z@@ Z@@ Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 02, 2010, 08:44:58 AM
Yes - it's not a particularly cheery outlook as we toddle our collective way towards the festive season, is it?


 VV
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Post by: wrex on October 02, 2010, 09:07:17 AM
 :PIan  do not get me started on xmas lights. :huh1:
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2010, 10:40:15 AM
 8) 8)
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Post by: ormegolf on October 02, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Gosh, I'm glad Fester didnt spot my mistake in my post.He would have had a good laugh. I should have written "Right hand drive bus."      Everything that drives around Paris is left hand drive!!!!!  It was only at 2 o'clock in the middle of the night I realised what I had written Mike
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Post by: Fester on October 02, 2010, 09:26:23 PM
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Gosh, I'm glad Fester didnt spot my mistake in my post.He would have had a good laugh. I should have written "Right hand drive bus."      Everything that drives around Paris is left hand drive!!!!!  It was only at 2 o'clock in the middle of the night I realised what I had written Mike

Fester is not that observant, nor that pedantic ....
Nor is he brave enough to DRIVE around Paris.
I take my hat off to you Sir !   &well& &well&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 03, 2010, 12:30:49 AM
 8)  Llandudno today looked very busy and how nice too see. This of course does not mean we stop trying too improve the town like our beloved councillors. ££$
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Post by: Ian on October 03, 2010, 08:15:13 AM
Quote
Nor is he brave enough to DRIVE around Paris.

For that, you need a navigator like my wife. "The only thing I ask," I said, "is don't take me anywhere near Paris!"

Ten minutes later, as I drove down the Champs-Élysées, the thoughts of what I might do if we ever escaped are unprintable...

 ))*
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Post by: ormegolf on October 03, 2010, 07:08:25 PM
Even worse, just yards away, the Arch de Triumph.  That is a sight for sore eyes if you are driving. In passing I would just mention that it is believed by everyone that you are automatically uninsured when you enter this roundabout. When a bump occures (whivh happens many times a day) the gendarmarie take details (maybe) and both drivers are treated equally responsible. No argument, makes no difference who you are or what happened---its 50-50 and you pay half
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 04, 2010, 07:56:14 AM
I think the Arc de Triomphe is more lethal than Hyde Park.  Certainly, there was the same feeling of impending doom I remember as we entered both, although not on the same day, it has to be said.  >?>??
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Post by: Nemesis on October 04, 2010, 08:40:32 AM
Santander is pretty hairy, especially when one of the huge ferries is chucking out cars with drivers who
a)don't know where they are going and
b) have never driven on the wrong side of the road before.
Usually another lot are arriving there to get on the ferries to sail home.
Chaos !
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Post by: Trojan on October 04, 2010, 08:45:34 AM
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Even worse, just yards away, the Arch de Triumph.  That is a sight for sore eyes if you are driving. In passing I would just mention that it is believed by everyone that you are automatically uninsured when you enter this roundabout. When a bump occures (whivh happens many times a day) the gendarmarie take details (maybe) and both drivers are treated equally responsible. No argument, makes no difference who you are or what happened---its 50-50 and you pay half

The Arch De Triumph certainly is a sight for sore eyes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on October 04, 2010, 09:32:28 AM
A beautiful October typically Autumn sunny morning with blue sky, and a heavy dew. :)
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Post by: Yorkie on October 04, 2010, 10:47:47 AM
Reminds me of the young lady who fell asleep on Hampstead Heath and woke up with a heavy Jew on her!!!  _))*
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Post by: Pendragon on October 04, 2010, 01:21:38 PM
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Yes, it's turned into a beautiful sunny afternoon, Llandudno is packed with people.

Fester pointed out to me that the Cable Car/Cabin Lift is closed yet again, yet it didnt seem that windy to me.  :huh1:

The Gresham pub was also closed, has that gone bust again?  :o
This pub is owned by Punch Taverns, 3 years ago my friend and her boyfriend had it.  The rent then was £1,200.00 a WEEK! Thats without the top rate barrels and all other drinks etc you have to buy from them. My sums are written correct honestly, how can anyone hope to survive when realistically it's a weekend only establishment. They don't care if you fall flat on your face as, if you can't pay rent they set their legal rottweillers on you for breach of lease and keep your deposit etc which in most cases is on average £40,000.00. Punch falsify their accounts (they recently got charged in court for this offence related to leaseholders in England)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2010, 06:07:33 PM
A lovely sun rise this morning from Penrhyn Bay beach :) 8)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/October%202010/DSCF0443.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/October%202010/DSCF0448.jpg)

and then we saw about ten dead fish, no idea what happened to them?? :(
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/October%202010/DSCF0453.jpg)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2010, 06:09:29 PM
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Even worse, just yards away, the Arch de Triumph.  That is a sight for sore eyes if you are driving. In passing I would just mention that it is believed by everyone that you are automatically uninsured when you enter this roundabout. When a bump occures (whivh happens many times a day) the gendarmarie take details (maybe) and both drivers are treated equally responsible. No argument, makes no difference who you are or what happened---its 50-50 and you pay half

The Arch De Triumph certainly is a sight for sore eyes.

 _))*  I've had many Triumph cars with worse arches than that TR7 (or is it an 8?)  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
The old Passion for Perfume shop in the Victoria Centre is to reopen as The Perfume Shop.
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Post by: Fester on October 04, 2010, 10:04:43 PM
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The old Passion for Perfume shop in the Victoria Centre is to reopen as The Perfume Shop.

 *&( *&(  Dave, did you notice whether they are using the same glass and silver display cases as were left behind before?  They were very tidy indeed.

Even more  *&(  is the fact that they closed down well before Xmas 2009, which was strange timing  .... then they are re-opening in time for Xmas!

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Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2010, 10:12:46 PM
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Dave, did you notice whether they are using the same glass and silver display cases as were left behind before?  They were very tidy indeed.
They are using the same cases, as far as I could see. All that has changed is that new signage has been put up and the shop has had a clean!  ;D
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Post by: Fester on October 04, 2010, 10:16:52 PM
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Dave, did you notice whether they are using the same glass and silver display cases as were left behind before?  They were very tidy indeed.
They are using the same cases, as far as I could see. All that has changed is that new signage has been put up and the shop has had a clean!  ;D

In that case I regret not paying the pittance I was offered to take them away ... 
Having said that I had nowhere to store them.

This shop will do VERY well in the run up to Xmas, and I asume they have taken a very cheap short term lease.
In other words, they are being allowed to take the cream!!

I will be spending a few quid in there myself.... Mrs Fester has a penchant for all that stuff.


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Post by: Blongb on October 10, 2010, 06:55:15 PM
And the final one on the Gresham for the moment. ZXZ Trapper threw a closing down again party last night and called it a day. With rent, rates and overheads he just couldn't make ends meet. The harder he worked the deeper in the mier he ended up. ))* Let it be a lesson to any young would be entrepreneurs out there; unless its freehold and a freehouse don't touch it with a barge pole Z**
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Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2010, 07:02:56 PM
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unless its freehold and a freehouse don't touch it with a barge pole
Wise words indeed! Shame to see the Gresham go, it was a popular live music venue.  :(
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Post by: ormegolf on October 10, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
A few threads back, Fester talks about the perfume shop closing just before  Xmas at a strange time. And then reopening under a slightly different perfume title. Smells a bit fishy to me!!!
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Post by: Fester on October 10, 2010, 11:16:55 PM
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unless its freehold and a freehouse don't touch it with a barge pole
Wise words indeed! Shame to see the Gresham go, it was a popular live music venue.  :(

After Dave and I had our pub crawl the other night, I met Mrs F in the Gresham ...  it was absolutely heaving.... and excellent.
Strange timing for it to close,  but I suppose it wasn't as busy on non-music nights.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 11, 2010, 05:50:48 PM
Work has started on the old Woolwich premises between the Victoria Centre and next Clearance. 5 men working in there today, good to see another empty shop let.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 12, 2010, 01:20:31 PM
Another couple of shops let on Madoc Street as well.  Another nail bar at the old Xpose clothes shop which years ago used to be Abercolour film processing and nearly opposite a form of internet cafe seems to be opening.
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Post by: Llechwedd on October 14, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
We don't have any nail bars and then all of a sudden we have two?  Like the Clapham Omnibus.  There's also a ciber cafe due to open in Madoc Street.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 14, 2010, 01:46:39 PM
Don't want to be pedantic but do you mean ciDer or cYber?     L0L  L0L  $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2010, 02:25:58 PM
Whereabouts is the Cyber Cafe going to be in Madoc Street, Llechwedd?
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Post by: Nemesis on October 14, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
Speaking of cafes on Madoc Street-- is that Christian Youth place where the pancake place was ever open ?
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Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
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Speaking of cafes on Madoc Street-- is that Christian Youth place where the pancake place was ever open ?
I believe it only opens on Wednesdays at present.
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Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
First of the new nail bars to open on Madoc street:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 14, 2010, 09:50:17 PM
 :'(  Walking around town with the dog tonight made me realise how dead it is,then you think well what is there to do besides drink, drink and drink,no cinema to attract people into town . :rage:
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Post by: ormegolf on October 14, 2010, 10:48:34 PM
Even worse---there is a cinema to attract them out of town
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Post by: DaveR on October 15, 2010, 08:21:29 AM
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Even worse---there is a cinema to attract them out of town
Good point, Mike! I always think the Palladium could have been refurbished into a luxury cinema and would have done well.
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Post by: wrex on October 15, 2010, 12:29:19 PM
Halfords would make a good cinema but its not in the center.The town center needs something to pull people in after 5 30,easier said than done. :leer:
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Post by: Fester on October 15, 2010, 11:44:18 PM
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:'(  Walking around town with the dog tonight made me realise how dead it is,then you think well what is there to do besides drink, drink and drink,no cinema to attract people into town . :rage:

I agree,  its great isn't it! ... and Dave R and I did exactly that tonight ... drink, drink, drink .....    he is such a bad influence...
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Post by: DaveR on October 15, 2010, 11:51:07 PM
Fester is great on Karaoke in the Carlton ...and I have video evidence to prove it!  $lol$
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Post by: Fester on October 16, 2010, 12:29:48 AM
No .... No .... No ....DON'T DO THIS  !!!

You will regret it in the morning ... Z** Z** ZXZ ZXZ

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Post by: Barbiroli on October 16, 2010, 01:09:20 AM
Youi have got to show us all the video DaveR Z** Z**
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Post by: Fester on October 16, 2010, 01:12:58 AM
Thankfully he's off line ..... it appears that Elvis has left the Building.

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Post by: Barbiroli on October 16, 2010, 01:20:37 AM
You are not off the hook yet Fester we still want to know more D) D)
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Post by: Llechwedd on October 16, 2010, 11:22:14 AM
Can't spell cyber sorry.  It's next to the Oxfam charity shop.  The windows are covered but there are people in there working.
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Post by: Llechwedd on October 16, 2010, 11:26:26 AM
Knock down the Clarence or North Western hotels and build a six screen cinema.  easy
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Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2010, 05:32:43 PM
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You are not off the hook yet Fester we still want to know more D) D)
I have the footage and it shall be displayed to all! Seriously, Fester was by far the best of the karaoke singers last night:

LIVE in the Carlton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO-cSDwfI_0#)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 16, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
Well only a couple of hours ago we were  sat chatting with Fester about the X Factor and singing etc and then this video comes up D)  and yes Fester based on that vid you are very good, go for the X Factor next year   D) 8)
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Post by: TheMedz on October 16, 2010, 07:40:19 PM
Fester. Hats off to you. I'm in awe of you being able to do that. I've made presentations to hundreds of people but singing in front of anything other than my bathroom mirror is beyond me.
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Post by: Nemesis on October 16, 2010, 08:01:37 PM
OMG I have a busy day and haven't time to get on line and look what happens !!! :o :D
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Post by: Fester on October 16, 2010, 08:07:59 PM
Oh Dear ... Dave, I shall repay you for this outrage!

Lucky for me, I don't have Adobe Flash Player, so I can't see or hear this abomination myself.
I recall my daughter put a clip of me singing in Spain onto YouTube, (from her inexpensive mobile) and when I saw and heard that it was appaling and I vowed never to get up and sing again.

However ...DaveR is very adept at making me drink far too much beer at the moment .... and one thing led to another.

Medz,  I spent a lot of my previous career giving presentations ... and looking back I reckon most of those were utter garbage too.
Glad all that corporate crap is behind me.

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Post by: Nemesis on October 16, 2010, 08:11:54 PM
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/big/big-smiley-004.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/free-big-smiley.php)
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Post by: Barbiroli on October 17, 2010, 01:05:17 AM
Fester hope i did`nt embararrass you by asking for more but by the way you were good <:<:<:<
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Post by: Ian on October 17, 2010, 08:41:33 AM
Fester...I'm impressed 

X:((

That's a good performance;  intonation was spot on, phrasing, dynamics and style all excellent.

Don't suppose you can read MSS?
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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 08:59:05 AM
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Don't suppose you can read MSS?
He says he prefers the Sunday Sport....  $lol$
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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 02:18:39 PM
Lovely day in Llandudno once the sun came out:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5089466354_c69b0d0598_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089466354/)

Llandudno Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089466354/) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 03:36:20 PM
Cafe Culture has had proper signage installed, looks good:

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Post by: Fester on October 17, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Some good work going on at The Grand Hotel this last few days.

There was a cherry picker type truck outside during the week, , with a guy on the platform dealing with the weeds and other stuff growing out of various nooks and crannies.
Today, there were two men up ladders re-painting the balconies.

Not before time!!

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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 06:14:58 PM
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Some good work going on at The Grand Hotel this last few days.

There was a cherry picker type truck outside during the week, , with a guy on the platform dealing with the weeds and other stuff growing out of various nooks and crannies.
Today, there were two men up ladders re-painting the balconies.

Not before time!!
They also had a climber working from ropes, who was clearing out the top floor gutters. Rather him than me!

Whilst lurking under the Pier today, I took this shot of the Grand Hotel that illustrates very well how it almost appears to be growing out of the rock of the Great Orme. A fantastic building.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5089610093_eb50bf4ec6_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089610093/)
Grand Hotel, Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089610093/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Paddy on October 17, 2010, 10:49:01 PM
Wow! What a fantastic pic. I've never seen the Grand looking so good.
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Post by: Trojan on October 18, 2010, 07:30:02 AM
That IS a great photo Dave.  $cool$
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Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2010, 08:59:51 AM
Thanks!  ;D  I also found a small cave down there, just underneath that old concrete advertising board by the tollgate entrance.

I always like to do photos from new angles, here's one I've not seen before:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5090342124_95679cb0d9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5090342124/)
Llandudno Pier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5090342124/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Trojan on October 18, 2010, 09:04:35 AM
Brill!  &well&
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Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2010, 10:14:52 PM
I'm amazed at the number of new shops opening in Madoc Street lately, must be at least 4 either open or getting ready to open - 'The Hub' Internet cafe, the 2 nail bars, and a charity shop in the old Dafydd Hardy offices.  :)
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Post by: Fester on October 18, 2010, 11:01:08 PM
I'm not amazed..... but I do wish them well.
I wonder if either nail-bar knew the other one was about to open?    ?{}?

Moreover,  in these days of scarce REAL employment, and reduced benefits, people are now forced to try a business venture .... what else is there to do to make a living?

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Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2010, 05:40:38 PM
Indeed. Sometimes, I look at a new business (like that bike hire shop this year) and think to myself...have they really done their homework?

Changing the subject, I also hear that the big slide on the pier is being removed this Winter and will be replaced by another attraction.
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Post by: Fester on October 20, 2010, 08:30:51 PM
As I understand it, the slide and many other things are being removed....mostly temporarily whilst the deck boards in that large area are replaced.
The main gate near the arcade will also be closed to the public for a long time from November.

I did'nt know the slide was being replaced,  but there has been talk of a Victorian style cafe on that site.



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Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2010, 05:49:01 PM
I was pleased to see that workmen were busy inside the old Bay Trading shop on Mostyn Street. Looks like another empty shop gone!  The pace of new shop lettings has certainly increased in the last few months.ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on October 21, 2010, 08:16:53 PM
To follow on from Dave's thread about new shops in Llandudno, I am far more familiar with Rhyl than Llandudno. But during the last nine months or so I have seen a lot of Llandudno and little of Rhyl. But I was in Rhyl one day this week and I was struck, straight away, at how it seemed quiet compared to Llandudno. I don't remember ever noticing anything like that before, in the past. So, maybe there is more hope for you happy Llandudnoites!!!
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Post by: wrex on October 21, 2010, 09:03:19 PM
 ;D  I have just been on  the Venue Cymru website and they claim too have shown a lot of blockbuster films in their cinema,i know nothing about this so called cinema and i am baffled. :-[
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Post by: TheMedz on October 21, 2010, 09:12:32 PM
Walking the  length of the prom yesterday spotted the first few hotels with full Christmas decorations,trees etc. Get your present lists ready because it's not long until Santa comes calling!
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Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2010, 09:27:31 PM
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Walking the  length of the prom yesterday spotted the first few hotels with full Christmas decorations,trees etc. Get your present lists ready because it's not long until Santa comes calling!
It's probably for 'Turkey & Tinsel', rather than Christmas itself. I've always found 'Turkey & Tinsel' to be one of the craziest concepts around, the idea of having a full Christmas/New Year celebration in less than one week in October or November:

Your Turkey & Tinsel Programme

MONDAY: It’s Christmas Eve! - From local departure points relax, get to know your fellow holidaymakers, and enjoy the comfortable coach journey to the venue of your choice. Before dinner you are invited to a welcome reception with your hosts and, after dinner, relax in the bar or lounge and enjoy a drink with your new-found friends.

TUESDAY: It’s Christmas Day! - Start this ‘Christmas’ day with a leisurely breakfast then sit back and enjoy a half day excursion before returning for one of the highlights of the week… a full ‘Christmas’ dinner with all the festive trimmings and a visit from Santa! After dinner enjoy a night of festive entertainment.

WEDNESDAY: It’s Boxing Day! - After breakfast, board your coach for a full day sightseeing excursion before returning to the hotel. In the evening look forward to a Boxing Day dinner followed by festive entertainment and dancing.

THURSDAY: It’s New Year’s Eve! - After breakfast, board your coach for a leisurely full day sightseeing excursion before returning to the hotel. In the evening look forward to a special New Year’s Eve dinner followed by entertainment to see in the ‘New Year’!

FRIDAY: Fond Farewells! - After breakfast it’s time to make our way home, after five festive days of good fun, food and friendship.
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Post by: Fester on October 21, 2010, 09:34:24 PM
I think the Tinsel and Turkey holidays are GREAT!
I know that my Mum looks forward to going on them every year.
Every other year is Llandudno for her.... and the hotels are buzzing with merriment every night.

The old biddies also potter around the town spending money, and generally making the place busier during the day in the months of Oct / Nov / Dec.
Even when the weather is lousy they make the best of it.

Neither is it even restricted to people of a certain age ... I can see the appeal of being royally entertained, fed and looked after for four nights, for about £179 all in!

Don't knock Tinsel and Turkey,  its good for the town, and makes old souls very happy.



 

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Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2010, 09:39:27 PM
It's the idea of pretending its Christmas Day in October that freaks me out.  :o :o :o
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 21, 2010, 10:42:35 PM
I would hate this turkey and tinsel holiday  :o  the thought of xmas now :rage:  in October  Bah Humbug ::)

If it makes money for Llandudno then great, but its not for me  ::)   L0L
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Post by: TheMedz on October 21, 2010, 10:43:32 PM
Well there you go I've learned something else. I now live in a town that celibrates "Christmas" in October. Certainly explains why I kept seeing Santa in the Grand Hotel when I was just about to buy a house this time last year.
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Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 10:49:34 PM
"The old biddies"

Let's hope they use the dedicated "motorised perambulator" lane on the promenade, or thre'll be hell to pay (snigger snigger) %0% $happy$ _))*
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Post by: suepp on October 21, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
Don't forget "Twix'tmas" the period between Christmas and New Year. Sounds like a good way of filling up the hotels at an otherwise very quiet time of year.
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Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:01:23 PM
My husband is a darlin, he's already started getting pressies, he made me laugh the other day he came in with 4 boxes of wine and I've been told NOT to touch them even if my mates are here and we can't be bothered to go to spar!! He's made me sit down and write a xmas pressie list. He's very organised. )*)&

I'm quite happy doing everything a couple of weeks before but he can't be doing with the chaos. <:>
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Post by: Fester on October 21, 2010, 11:11:23 PM
Pendragon ... its YOU that is funny ...   and I've just read your other postings about discipling kids (on Conwy thread) .. hilarious.  L0L L0L

Ever thought about being a councillor?  You'll tie them in knots.

Medz ... All seaside towns run Tinsel and Turkey holidays,  thats why my Mum and her pals go to a different destination every other year!
Take a look on the web,  you can book them everywhere.  Not all hotels do it, Prestige ones like The Empire and The Imperial don't need to.
But .. The Marlborough is already fully booked for NEXT years Tinsel and Turkey weeks,  and very little availability for 2012 !!!

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Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:32:08 PM
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Pendragon ... its YOU that is funny ...   and I've just read your other postings about discipling kids (on Conwy thread) .. hilarious.  L0L L0L

Ever thought about being a councillor?  You'll tie them in knots.

I wouldn't be a councillor if you paid me (  _))* _))* _))*) I like having my own opinion Fester
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Post by: TheMedz on October 21, 2010, 11:42:44 PM
I honestly didn't know "Tinsel and Turkey" existed. Amazing.
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Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:44:33 PM
Ok I confess........ I'm actually in the running for the 2012 "olympic councillor" gold medal............there I said it  ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on October 21, 2010, 11:48:21 PM
I'm not sure I'm that comfortable with women having their own opinions....
Please don't let my wife know that this practise goes on.

Hell, you'll be wanting to vote next. 

 
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Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:53:09 PM
My husband is always given choices mate and the same goes for his opinions
I'm either right or he's obviously wrong !!..............duh..........don't ever let it be said I'm not fair  $hands$ L0L
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Post by: Nemesis on October 22, 2010, 08:37:48 AM
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I honestly didn't know "Tinsel and Turkey" existed. Amazing.

 I am now walking daily past an hotel which is fully trimmed for the silly season and it's not on the prom either. Gives me a dose of the 'glooms'
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Post by: Ian on October 22, 2010, 09:13:35 AM
T & T weeks keep the town going at this time of year. And the visitors love them.
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Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
Animal Clothing is opening in the old Woolwich branch next to Next Clearance:
http://www.animal.co.uk/ (http://www.animal.co.uk/)

Past Times are opening in the old Bay Trading shop:
http://www.pasttimes.com/ (http://www.pasttimes.com/)

Excellent News!  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on October 23, 2010, 04:51:34 AM
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T & T weeks keep the town going at this time of year. And the visitors love them.

  I* It also gives non Christians a chance to sample some decent nosh and have a good old knees-up.  I*
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Post by: Nemesis on October 23, 2010, 08:27:11 AM
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I honestly didn't know "Tinsel and Turkey" existed. Amazing.

 I am now walking daily past an hotel which is fully trimmed for the silly season and it's not on the prom either. Gives me a dose of the 'glooms'

Worse than ever--- went into Store 21 yesterday and Christmas music was merrily blaring out. :o I made a hasty exit !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 23, 2010, 12:44:45 PM
 D)  Mostyn Champneys is heaving this afternoon. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
I'm sitting in the sun on the deck outside Ski Llandudno Lodge. Coffee here is terrible but the views make up for it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 24, 2010, 12:41:15 PM
 ::)  Sitting outside the Neville,beer not too bad,the view of the rail station and the potholed road not too good,but hey who cares its only Llandudno. :P
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Post by: Pendragon on October 24, 2010, 03:31:37 PM
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::)  Sitting outside the Neville,beer not too bad,the view of the rail station and the potholed road not too good,but hey who cares its only Llandudno. :P
Pete the landlord in the Neville and his wife Val are fantastic people.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
The old Motorworld shop on Upper Mostyn Street is to become a Manor Fine Foods shop, run by the same people who run the Manor Hotel in Craig Y Don
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2010, 04:15:17 PM
Lot of work going on to get the Past Times shop (formerly Bay Trading) ready for business. They must have had 6 or more people stocking the shelves today.
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Post by: dwsi on October 24, 2010, 06:46:04 PM
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::)  Sitting outside the Neville,beer not too bad,the view of the rail station and the potholed road not too good,but hey who cares its only Llandudno. :P
Pete the landlord in the Neville and his wife Val are fantastic people.

I'll second that
p.s. remember the great staff too
 Z**
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Post by: Pendragon on October 24, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
 ))*  yeah and the staff too  :-*
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Post by: Fester on October 24, 2010, 07:59:56 PM
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))*  yeah and the staff too  :-*

Especially Tracey !!   :-*
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Post by: Pendragon on October 27, 2010, 07:57:29 PM
I heard a tragic story last night about a landlord in Llandudno (I'm not going to mention names) he was running a pub for Punch Taverns. After doing his uttmost to make the pub work, Punch truly F*cked him over. This poor lad was driven to attempt suicide,(I contemplated it myself over the Albion, I know how he feels) something has to be done to protect these poor people. I'm not posting this as idle gossip, please don't think I am. I'm just recognising his plight. It will probably take someone to fall over the edge for action to happen. Gutted for the lad I really am.
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Post by: Tillymint on October 27, 2010, 11:11:15 PM
I know  of a "couple" who have had this happen as well. Punch promise the earth but never deliver. Phone calls are never returned and "mobiles" always on answerphone. Left to sink or swim, usually to sink like a stone :(.

Most of Punches leased estate is up for sale and  not necessarily as a going concern. They are selling off their assets. The CEO of their leased estate did much the same with a well known "off licence chain" a few  years ago. He left to join Punch. The "Offy" went into Administration at the end of October last year. Watch this space although I hope I am wrong.

We are going to end up with a load of "plastic" pubs with no character or well known "mine host" and very little choice of venue.

Rediculous high rents, low discounts and little or usually no support, coupled with no chance of competing with the big supermarket chains. No chance.  Z** :rage:
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Post by: Fester on October 28, 2010, 12:19:15 AM
Errr... please don't think for one minute that the odd suicide will make any corporate business change direction... it simply means you are DEAD.
They will make a glib statement, a wreath at the funeral, nothing more.

No ... much easier to file for bankruptcy,   stick 2 fingers up to them ... and start again!

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Post by: Jack on October 28, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
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Lot of work going on to get the Past Times shop (formerly Bay Trading) ready for business. They must have had 6 or more people stocking the shelves today.

According to today's NWWN, the Past Times shop is a 'pop-up' shop.  Do I understand this to be just here for a couple of months and will then close again?  Therefore are they coming into the town just for the busy period in the run up to Christmas to 'cherry pick' business.  It must be irritating for existing businesses who sell similiar merchandise but are paying rates and overheads the whole year round.  Is this the future for retail?  Shops becoming seasonal - opening in late October and closing early January.
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Post by: suepp on October 28, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
It seemed quite busy in there this morning, most of the stock is being displayed as reduced and the back of the shop has been made into a makeshift storage area
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2010, 06:18:40 PM
The wind really got up in the late afternoon, the gusts were scattering A-boards, cafe tables and chairs everywhere! I was looking warily at the scaffolding surrounding Wetherspoons but it seems pretty secure, although the dust sheets were starting to get ripped off. The dust from the sandblasting was flying everywhere as well.
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Post by: Quiggs on October 29, 2010, 06:47:41 PM
If the past is anything to go by, you'll need to watch out for flying roof slates,   :(
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Post by: ormegolf on October 29, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
If the wind was bad in town, you can guess what it was like up the Orme. The surprising thing is how quickly it came, no more than ten/fifteen minutes from fairly calm to holding on for your life
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 30, 2010, 12:16:46 AM
You are spot on there Mike,
I was chatting to a couple of people on the Pier at 3.30 ish and we were celebrating how mild the weather was compared to the forecast.... and within 20 seconds of nodding our heads,   my stock was all over the pier,  my sign was flattened... and we were all running for cover.
Scary stuff and damaging.

When I got home, (up the Orme)  my large wooden gates were badly damaged, and bins were all over the road.

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Post by: Ian on October 30, 2010, 08:53:36 AM
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The surprising thing is how quickly it came, no more than ten/fifteen minutes from fairly calm to holding on for your life

Indeed. It also went fairly quickly, but it reminded me of the fact that the UK experiences about 200 tornadoes a year, and the intensity of the wind made me wonder for a moment...
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Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2010, 09:28:29 AM
I was saying the other day that I was working at the end of the Pier one day in the Summer many years ago and what felt like a tornado blew up out of nowhere. It went from being a peaceful, sunny day to absolute chaos in a few minutes, with the heavy wooden doors being ripped off their hinges in the Pierhead Pavilion. Then, it all went calm and sunny again and the Pier's maintenance staff had a hard time believing that high winds had caused the damage.  :o
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Post by: Ian on October 30, 2010, 10:02:56 AM
From what I can find out, it seems that the trailing edge of a front went through.  That often causes squally winds, followed by a veering or backing of the wind direction, and the wind has now veered round to the West.
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Post by: Nemesis on October 30, 2010, 11:09:38 AM
I drove down Arvon Ave at about 10 to 5 and the leaves were whirling up in spirals. A very strange sight.
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Post by: Sara on October 30, 2010, 04:25:51 PM
Asda's car park is a nightmare. Just taken me an hour to get out of there. Cars were bumper to bumper, how there weren't any accidents I don't know. The staff are directing traffic and as I left, the slip road into Asda was being coned off, so traffic coming down the Conway Rd couldn't enter. And it's not even Christmas yet  :(  :( :( :(
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Post by: Yorkie on October 30, 2010, 06:36:17 PM
Nothing unusual about that Sara!   It happens quite often.     $uk
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Post by: Sara on October 30, 2010, 07:13:54 PM
Never taken me that long before tho! Next time will walk and hubby can come in his electric wheelchair, it's amazing how many bags of shopping i can load onto it even with him in it LOL.  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on November 01, 2010, 05:26:26 PM
Manor Fine Foods has opened in Upper Mostyn Street:
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Post by: wrex on November 01, 2010, 05:40:59 PM
 :o    Looks very nice the sort of shop that will attract the finer shopper,will certainly be poping in.Very few postings over the weekend is everybody on holiday,i notice Oscar has gone very quiet so lets try not to go the same way.   ¢¢##
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Post by: ormegolf on November 01, 2010, 07:54:26 PM
I could'nt agree more about the outward appearance of this store. What a difference to the endless bookclearance type of shop, with dayglow paper ( peeling at the edges)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2010, 04:07:10 PM
Just walked up Mostyn Street and wished I hadnt - weather is horrendous! Have gone to dry out in Waterstones coffee shop.
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Post by: Bellringer on November 02, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
Had cause to go to Southport today and just got back. If it's any consolation it's much the same there.
 
We hadn't been there for years and it was only the second time we had ever been through the Wallasey (Mersey) tunnel - we've led a very sheltered life!!
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Post by: Hugo on November 02, 2010, 05:57:55 PM
I took the car in for its MOT at 9.00am and after having a coffee morning followed by a nice meal at the Orient Express I braved the rain and walked up Builder Street only to be told that the car wouldn't be ready until 4.00pm.   :(
On my way back to town I passed Kwik Fit and a notice there said that the MOT's there only cost £35.00   :'(
I thought that I'd pass some of the time in the Library but when I got there the place was closed.
 I eventually ended up in the Conwy Archives where it was nice and warm and dried off until I received the phone call to pick up the car and then got another soaking in Builder Street  walking against the wind and rain.
At least the car passed its MOT thank goodness.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2010, 08:21:11 PM
If it is any consolation the weather in Yorkshire was horrendous too. I was so wet that I almost steamed on the train home.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
Another very wet and windy day in town, shops and cafes all very quiet.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 04, 2010, 04:58:16 PM
Pedro's Cafe 101 was a hive of activity between 3 and 4 this afternoon.  The place gets better every time we go there.    Z**
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Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2010, 05:59:56 PM
I see in the Weekly News that a new business will be opening in St George's Place on Saturday:

Petticoat Lane will be a decorative living and gift shop stocking decorative items, jewellery, accessories, toiletries, children's gifts, cards and gift wrap.

Also:

The former One Stop shop on Bryniau Road on the town’s West Shore is also being transformed into a shop selling disabled equipment.
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Post by: TELL on November 05, 2010, 12:27:54 PM
I never thought that I would say it, but "well done the council", they have actually posted some news about the firework display on their website! (it's on).
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Post by: Mikethewatch on November 05, 2010, 02:29:08 PM
They would have done better to post it one here at least some people will see it.
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Post by: Ian on November 05, 2010, 02:37:05 PM
I doubt they 'officially' acknowledge our existence.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2010, 07:16:00 PM
 :)   I have never seen Mostyn Champneys so busy,most car park spaces taken,this is why no body will do anything to improve the town xmas lights because they see the town so busy so they say there is no need,lets have some PRIDE[not gay]. :-*
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Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
In town today, I saw two lots of CCBC cherrypickers replacing dead bulbs on the Prom decorative lighting and about 6 gardeners planting out bedding plants on the Carlton roundabout. My questions are...why does this work need to be done on a Sunday and do the Staff receive extra pay?
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Post by: ormegolf on November 07, 2010, 07:15:09 PM
Hello Dave, I don't know about the lights but I think there is some percentage wage advantage in working for cbc on a Sunday. Actually,I would add,in my view, quite right too. But as to the flower bed in the Carlton roundabout, I'm on the Councils side here. Any work on an island such as this is going to create bad delays to traffic, and Sunday is, generally speaking, likely to see less essential (delivery vehicles, 10 min buses etc) traffic. Maybe more weekend visitors, but they have more time on their hands.  Mike  P.S.Yet again I seem to be arguing against a Moderator. I only hope I wont be marked down as an ackward bu----- and thrown out!!!!
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Post by: Fester on November 07, 2010, 07:39:12 PM
Throw him out !!
Now that the weather for Golf has gone, this man has too too much time on his hands...and is obviously bent on causing trouble.

Agreeing with CCBC and disagreeing with the Mighty Moderators is tantamount to anarchy ....

Now, lets get back to model railways and counting Eddie Stobart trucks.

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Post by: Ian on November 08, 2010, 08:59:09 AM
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Agreeing with CCBC and disagreeing with the Mighty Moderators is tantamount to anarchy ....

Nihilist!

 ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on November 08, 2010, 12:28:57 PM
Anyone know why there are no "free range" poppy-sellers in town this year? Plenty of shops selling poppies but somehow it's not quite the same.
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Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2010, 05:11:46 PM
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Anyone know why there are no "free range" poppy-sellers in town this year? Plenty of shops selling poppies but somehow it's not quite the same.
Perhaps a lack of volunteers? People these days lead such busy lives that not that many people have free time to help out, sadly.
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Post by: Essien on November 08, 2010, 08:35:47 PM
I met a poppy seller outside the Coop in Old Colwyn last week , it was piddling down and she was getting quite wet. i asked her "why dont you go inside"? her answer was "if the servicemen of this country have to do their duty in their conditions, then a bit of rain want hurt me" what a lady.  ¢¢##
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Post by: Trojan on November 08, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
Good to see you back Essien!  +}}{--
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Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2010, 08:41:26 PM
Essien, I mentioned you on the Shipping News topic:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=265.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=265.0)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2010, 08:56:45 AM
Looks like being a High Tide today if the winds keep up, might go and take a look. Tide is in at 12.27.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 09, 2010, 12:43:34 PM
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Looks like being a High Tide today if the winds keep up, might go and take a look. Tide is in at 12.27.

Thanks for letting us know, was very impressive at Penrhyn Bay!

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Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2010, 06:39:21 PM
Looks as though the wind made it a better show at Penrhyn Bay and Rhos, rather than Llandudno.  :( Still, there were impressive amounts of foam flying around on Llandudno Prom:
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Good to see you back Essien!  +}}{--
Never been away Trojan, I've turned into a secret lurker. 8)
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Post by: Trojan on November 10, 2010, 01:26:06 AM
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Good to see you back Essien!  +}}{--
Never been away Trojan, I've turned into a secret lurker. 8)

That doesn't surprise me. DaveR has just e-mailed me some forum stats.  ?{}?
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Post by: Pendragon on November 10, 2010, 05:36:36 PM
Just been told now the old "FLICKS" has re opened by the guy who's got the chippy downstairs. I'll have to take a nosy, used to love it in there years ago. D)
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Post by: Pendragon on November 10, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
If I've got it right it's called Mixers now and its a wine bar.  ZXZ
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Post by: Trojan on November 10, 2010, 05:56:22 PM
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Just been told now the old "FLICKS" has re opened by the guy who's got the chippy downstairs. I'll have to take a nosy, used to love it in there years ago. D)

Used to frequent the place myself years ago. Was called the Criterion before it became "Flix".

Had an interesting "going to the flix" decor. Remember sitting having a drink on one of those old "cushy" cinema seats - I think they were from the Savoy when it closed down.
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Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
KFC on Mostyn Street is closed for a few days for a complete refit, just in case you were thinking of going.
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Post by: Fester on November 10, 2010, 07:28:30 PM
I actually WAS planning to go...to KFC ...tonight!
I thought half time in the Man Utd v Man City game would be an ideal time to pick up a De-luxe Bone-less Box!

Sounds like its Pizza... again
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Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 08:06:09 PM
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I actually WAS planning to go...to KFC ...tonight!
I thought half time in the Man Utd v Man City game would be an ideal time to pick up a De-luxe Bone-less Box!

Sounds like its Pizza... again
Hold on...If you're not there, and I'm not there....who's representing the Three Towns Forum in the King's Head quiz?

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 10, 2010, 09:03:48 PM
King's Head Quiz?   Wasn't that on a Thursday?   Can't remember...

But I do remember that we were slightly drunk .... ZXZ   and very stupid.   {}{}
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 09:39:50 PM
It was a Wednesday...and we came third! Even if we were assisted by two Americans and a dog.  $drink$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on November 10, 2010, 09:56:58 PM
I read today that Madoc Street is about to be closed to traffic to allow a Celtic Fair to operate I think for five days. I've never heard of this before, it seems like a good idea. Is it an annual event which Ive never heard of? Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
It usually takes place at the Mostyn Champneys retail park but it's moved to Madoc Street this year. Was supposed to be there last year but they couldn't get the permissions sorted out.

http://www.celticwinterfayre.co.uk/ (http://www.celticwinterfayre.co.uk/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 10, 2010, 10:14:25 PM
I really hope the weather is better for this year's Celtic Fayre than it was last year...

I struggled through the gales and terrible rain to go from tent to tent,  and stall to stall last year,  and it was ''reasonably'' busy ... but I reckon that if we get the bad weather out of the way this week,   it could well be packed every day that it is staged next week.

I'll be there .... so should YOU!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 11, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
We will be there as usual, in our little hut, doing our stint, selling Christmas cards and goods for charity.

Come and buy ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2010, 06:49:46 PM
I noticed that large swathes of the plastic sheeting covering the scaffolding on Wetherspoons are in shreds after the gales last night. Also the side sign on the empty Diskos shop had been ripped off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 12, 2010, 07:45:51 PM
Indeed, we went from the Fat Cat to the Asia last night .. and as you walked round the corner into Gloddaeth St it was like a wind-tunnel.

The Paladium lookd like a massive sailing ship getting its sails ripped apart on a stormy sea.   Like the imagery?

Seriously though, it was getting battered.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2010, 09:03:14 AM
Looks like a large portion of the protective canvas is stuck in a tree in Rectory Lane !
Title: Lost & Found
Post by: TheMedz on November 13, 2010, 12:24:42 PM
I've just had a note pushed through my door re a lost 2 year old black (with white markings on it's chest) Labrador Collie cross called "Alfie" that went missing at 7pm last night (friday 12th November). I assume that because it's come through my door then the dog must  live somewhere on Great Orme. I thought it might be worth widening the distribution of the appeal for info by putting it on the forum. The phone number to ring if anybody finds or has seen the dog is 871516
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 03:18:06 PM
A cold but sunny morning for the Remembrance Sunday ceremony. Did the Mayor and assorted sidekicks really need a Chauffeur driven Limousine to travel the couple of hundred feet from the Cenotaph to the Town Hall?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 03:24:41 PM
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Indeed, we went from the Fat Cat to the Asia last night .. and as you walked round the corner into Gloddaeth St it was like a wind-tunnel.

The Paladium lookd like a massive sailing ship getting its sails ripped apart on a stormy sea.   Like the imagery?

Seriously though, it was getting battered.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 14, 2010, 05:49:04 PM

A cold but sunny morning for the Remembrance Sunday ceremony, says DaveR

Looks like quite a good crowd at the Cenotaph and earlier Holy Trinity Church was full with an additional 20/30 standing.
Title: Re: Lost Black Labrador Collie Cross
Post by: ormegolf on November 14, 2010, 06:09:37 PM
It appears you live in a bad area for lost dogs!!  Only a few weeks ago a lady who lives further along Tyn y Coed lost a border collie cross. She asked me about it and, as it happens, I had seen this dog around five or six hours before. I told her but obviously I didnt know where it had gone. The next day she came back to me, "I've found the dog. I asked a cafe owner on the pier, he said he had seen a similar dog around the Carlton the previous night, and then I found the owners of the shop which used to be Wollies had kept him/her overnight, so Ive got her back. Here---theres the poster of her as a missing dog with phone number etc. You can keep it in case she goes missing in the future."   If I had been her I would take better care of my dog in the future rather than giving out posters!!! Mike
Title: Re: Lost Black Labrador Collie Cross
Post by: TheMedz on November 14, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
is it the same phone number Mike?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 14, 2010, 06:45:32 PM
   ;)Nearly 4 thousand people in Venue Cymru last night, 15 hundred watching Rod Gilbert and up to two thousand five hundred watching Motorhead,now that is what the town needs people coming into town and many staying over night,unfortunatly this does not happen very often,hence the Venue management are failing all Llandudno buisnesses. ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2010, 06:50:08 PM
It was great to see the town so busy Wrex, and a very welcome extra 4,000 customers for us cabbies!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 14, 2010, 07:00:17 PM
 :)  It certainly was nice Paddy but like i say you cabbies and bar owners, hoteliers,cafes are being let down by the lack of gigs in thr Arena and nobody seems to give a hoot just leave the management to fail the town. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 07:21:10 PM
It would be great to have the theatre and arena in use all the time Wrex, but its important to remember that the management don't book the acts, independent promoters do.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2010, 07:57:43 PM
As a matter of interest, does anyone know how much it would cost to hire the theatre or arena?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 08:11:40 PM
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As a matter of interest, does anyone know how much it would cost to hire the theatre or arena?
The Arena would cost you about £4,500 for the night.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 14, 2010, 08:24:47 PM
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its important to remember that the management don't book the acts, independent promoters do.

Being a promoter is a full time job, but it can be done by anyone who's sufficiently determined and has a good, logistical mind. But it's very stressful and extremely hard work.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 14, 2010, 08:35:06 PM
 8)   Dave surely its the managements job to persue the promotors and promote the LLandudno Arena,even the franchise for the caterers cannot be happy with the lack of gigs,for the westlife gig there was no bar in the arena itself,leaving the 2,500 audience to walk too the ocean bar,what was that about. :rage:If the rent for the night needs to come down to help the town thrive so be it,going by the amount of people in the pubs last nite there will be a few closing soon.The buisiest pub we went to last nite was the Kings Arms and that was because at about 11 loads came in from the Motorhead concert at the ARENA. ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 08:40:50 PM
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its important to remember that the management don't book the acts, independent promoters do.
Being a promoter is a full time job, but it can be done by anyone who's sufficiently determined and has a good, logistical mind. But it's very stressful and extremely hard work.
The problem is that most major acts are under contract to a major promoter, so you can't book them even if you had the cash. Add to that the fact that a lot of acts will not even consider Llandudno as it's too far out of the way. Add again the large fees charged by acts and all the ancillary costs that a promoter has to pay, like security, insurance etc and you are laying out upwards of £20,000. That's a big gamble to take, especially if you consider acts like Westlife and the Rocky Horror Show did not sell out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
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8)   Dave surely its the managements job to persue the promotors and promote the LLandudno Arena,even the franchise for the caterers cannot be happy with the lack of gigs,for the westlife gig there was no bar in the arena itself,leaving the 2,500 audience to walk too the ocean bar,what was that about. :rage:If the rent for the night needs to come down to help the town thrive so be it,going by the amount of people in the pubs last nite there will be a few closing soon.The buisiest pub we went to last nite was the Kings Arms and that was because at about 11 loads came in from the Motorhead concert at the ARENA. ££$
I'm sure I was told that the bar in the Arena was not opened for Westlife as it was thought the majority of the audience would be under age!

Another big problem is that the Arena was designed for conferences, rather than concerts and, as a result, the ceiling is too low for major acts lighting rigs. I know, you couldn't make it up, etc.  ))*

I'd agree that the management could do more to try and pursue suitable acts.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 14, 2010, 10:27:49 PM
More can be done, and must be done to promote the Arena,

Its important that people note the REAL answer by Dave to Paddy's question.

i.e.,you CAN rent the arena for approx £4500 for the night ... but the REAL cost of staging the hole event is much higher .. in excess of £20,000
Thats because of ticketing, security, advertising, ..and the percentage that Venue Cymru want from the sale of your tickets.

Any attempt to break into the 'cartel' which is gig promoting will be met with immense frustration.   Any major talent is controlled by maybe two major management companies.... they have thier favoured promoters and venues, and these guys are most unlikely to even return your calls.

That doesn't mean that more cannot be done by the VC management to persue it though.
More nights like last night are vital, otherwise this white elephant will go the way of Conwy Civic Hall ... and close!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2010, 11:39:11 PM
You've taken the wind out of my sails a bit there Fester. I was just knocking up some Take That tickets on my laptop!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2010, 08:19:45 AM
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You've taken the wind out of my sails a bit there Fester. I was just knocking up some Take That tickets on my laptop!
Best knock that idea on the head, Paddy, Take That would want around £100,000+ to appear for the one show....  :o ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2010, 06:08:59 PM
Madoc Street is already closed for the setting up of the Celtic Winter Fayre. Should be a good event, I'll pop down to do some photos tomorrow afternoon.  :)
Title: Re: Lost Black Labrador Collie Cross
Post by: ormegolf on November 17, 2010, 08:41:50 PM
I'm not sure about the phone number, I threw the poster away. But the dogs names are not the same, I think the one I was asked about was called Peggy or something similar  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2010, 05:56:08 PM
Celtic Fayre is well underway, quite a few about even though the weather hasn't been too good so far. Trees along Madoc Street are all strung with blue lights and look pretty good. Naturally, the Town Council haven't bothered to switch their Christmas lights on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 18, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
We had a walk around early this afternoon and there was a really nice feel to the whole thing. Some of the tents were really packed but surprisingly the food demonstration tent was almost empty. Still that did mean I could  go back and get a second helping of the wonderful seafood chowder that was being demonstrated.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 18, 2010, 08:47:18 PM
The place was packed when I passed through today early on then my OH and I went down at lunch time and it was very busy in the tents.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 19, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
Yep, we had a wander around at around 3pm,  quite busy ... and weather was so much better than last year.

I was impressed by the diversity of merchandise this year.... very few cross-overs, and good quality too ... prices of food getting steep though.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 19, 2010, 08:49:01 AM
No cake stands on sale I take it ? :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on November 19, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
I'm looking forward to going today and also a stroll round town!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 19, 2010, 11:26:29 AM
Didn't believe my eyes about an hour ago.
I was parking my car in the Summit Car Park on the Orme when I saw a traffic warden up there issuing a parking ticket ! >>>
There were only 4 cars there including mine, so he couldn't have made much of a killing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
If he gets 25% in every car park the Council will be quids in!               ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2010, 08:26:58 PM
Whilst wandering about in the gloom on the Orme last night taking photos, I noticed that the floodlighting on the Little Orme wasn't working. Then I noticed that the Great Orme floodlighting in the old quarry on Ty Gwyn road wasn't working either. Later on, when passing the top of Penrhyn Hill, I noticed that the 'Welcome To Llandudno' sign wasn't on either!

Not very impressive.  :(

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
    :(  I hope dave that your not suprised,this is the buisiest xmas shopping weekend with the celtic fair being on and our council cannot bring themselves too put any of the town lights on,they really are not interested in helping anyone who is bringing people into Llandudno. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 20, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
As some people may know, there is also an organisation (if one can use such a word) called The Llandudno Civic Council who claim that their main purpose is to monitor the efforts of the Conwy County Council and the Llandudno Town Council and to keep a watching brief on what they do and also their expenditure.

Whatever they are doing they must be doing it in total secrecy, as I have not seen sight or sound of any results of their efforts or any positive action in "monitoring" the two Councils, offering any suggestions, or even publishing any details of their deliberations or meetings.  I am sure local Blogs and Forums would give them houseroom if they were interested in keeping the public informed.  I, for one, would like to know what they are doing, if anything!   >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 21, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
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    :(  I hope dave that your not suprised,this is the buisiest xmas shopping weekend with the celtic fair being on and our council cannot bring themselves too put any of the town lights on,they really are not interested in helping anyone who is bringing people into Llandudno. :rage:

mmm The Celtic Fayre. I happened to be working there yesterday afternoon, in one of the huts. All afternoon some officious bod kept coming round asking if we had heaters on ( not allowed). If he'd seen the state of our fingers and toes he needn't have asked. Fair enough the generators would probably have exploded if eveyone had had one, BUT-- all afternoon the lights kept failing and we were plunged into gloom. Try helping people in and out of those huts and trying to decipher pound coins from 10 pences in the gloom. Not easy, as the afternoon progressed I had to ring my OH to bring a torch, just so that people could chose their Christmas Cards.
Another point-- there were no toilets provided so people were directed to Tribels, bet they were busy !
Ah well at least we raised plenty of money for the charity---  will still be there today-- not manned by myself, but come and buy if you need Christmas Cards.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 21, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
I had a quick gander round the fair this morning. Some lovely stalls there. Had to open up at 11am so didn't get much time. Everyone had raved about the Buffalo Burgers and steaks, so I bought some for tea tomorrow, can't wait to see the boy's face when he's presented with Buffalo.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 21, 2010, 04:10:02 PM
I think the big banner on the front of Wetherspoons is quite impressive:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 21, 2010, 06:01:46 PM
The Celtic Fayre had some interesting stalls .... but it was all a bit flat without any music on??   A band, some singers, some piped Xmas carols.. anything really.

Plus I noticed that organiser guy (Nigel Rose) up to a very clever (or naughty) trick
He made people queue outside one of the tents (not the busiest one either) .. he let people in in a steady trickle... and directed everyone to turn LEFT.
Seemingly a one way system was a good idea.

It was an even better idea given that his wife's stall was the first one on the left.... and you were forced to walk past it!


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on November 21, 2010, 08:23:01 PM
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I think the big banner on the front of Wetherspoons is quite impressive:

What is it for?

So you don't forget what the building looks like, as they're taking so long with the re-vamp?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 04:51:17 PM
A Pedicurist is opening in early December in the old Dr China shop in the Victoria Centre.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on November 22, 2010, 05:46:48 PM
The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on November 22, 2010, 06:00:37 PM
Been lots of birdwatchers around the Mostyn Champneys carpark especially around Aldi, old Halfords and B and Q as there was a flock of 50 or so Waxwings (V pretty little birds from Scandinavia).  Friendly bunch too as they let me look thru their telescopes to get fantastic views. I only went in for some paint....... :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:04:16 PM
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The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???
Hmmmm...something like this....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:10:31 PM
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Been lots of birdwatchers around the Mostyn Champneys carpark especially around Aldi, old Halfords and B and Q as there was a flock of 50 or so Waxwings (V pretty little birds from Scandinavia).  Friendly bunch too as they let me look thru their telescopes to get fantastic views. I only went in for some paint....... :)
I saw a lot of these on the beach at Colwyn Bay the other day and was wondering what they are? I'm sure they're very common.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 22, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
looks like an Oystercatcher, we used to see one that nested on the Cambrian Coast railway, within a couple of feet of the rail!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2010, 06:36:43 PM
Definitely an Oystercatcher.  Lots of them around this area especially near low tide when the sand is available.  They can also be seen at the RSPB at Llandudno Junction once they get the water back in the lagoon!   Here is an RSPB picture.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:39:50 PM
Thanks, both!  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 22, 2010, 07:43:37 PM
The call they make is a dead give away you can hear it from miles away. You will hear them before you see them in most cases.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2010, 08:38:54 PM
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The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???

Mrs Fester tried this in Manchester.... I do hope they are not Pirhanas?
She also thought such a franchise would go down well in Llandudno.
I disagree, because the one in Manchester was a 'stall' on the Arndale concourse (low rent)  .. the Dr China shop rent plus rates plus service charge works out over £30,000 per year.   The unit is very large and needs a lot of turnover to support that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
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As some people may know, there is also an organisation (if one can use such a word) called The Llandudno Civic Council who claim that their main purpose is to monitor the efforts of the Conwy County Council and the Llandudno Town Council and to keep a watching brief on what they do and also their expenditure.

Whatever they are doing they must be doing it in total secrecy, as I have not seen sight or sound of any results of their efforts or any positive action in "monitoring" the two Councils, offering any suggestions, or even publishing any details of their deliberations or meetings.  I am sure local Blogs and Forums would give them houseroom if they were interested in keeping the public informed.  I, for one, would like to know what they are doing, if anything!   >>>
I meant to reply to this post a day or so ago but forgot...

Yes, very unfortunately, the Civic Council appear just as reluctant to tell the people anything as the organisations they are supposedly monitoring! Again, why no website, blog etc to keep residents/taxpayers they supposedly represent informed? They could post information on here with pleasure, if they wanted, and the same goes for any other local organisation.

Lastly, with the greatest of respect, I find their lack of accountability concerning. Don't they effectively appoint themselves?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2010, 09:03:08 PM
With the greatest of DISRESPECT, I think they are a set of self-important pompous clowns.... which we can ill afford.

(I do like the Extravaganza though)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2010, 09:04:56 PM
Civic Council - The Past President and founder of this sham organisation was Dr Craig Cameron who passed away earlier this year.

The current Chairman is ex-Councillor Alan Guinn ably assisted by ex-Councillor Roy Gambrill plus a supporting cast made up of people from the town.  The term 'supporting cast' is rather appropriate as the whole group is rather akin to a Pantomime.     _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 09:18:46 PM
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The current Chairman is ex-Councillor Alan Guinn ably assisted by ex-Councillor Roy Gambrill plus a supporting cast made up of people from the town.
Ah. The same Alan Guinn who is organising the 'Friends of the Happy Valley' group? I think it must be over a year now that I've been waiting to hear about this Group and what it's going to do....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 22, 2010, 09:33:08 PM
An old saying comes to mind. Who will watch the watchers?  $wales They are self appointed, non elected, non effective and undemocratic.  $uk If you want to have a pop at the Council for being ineffectual / inefficient etc. there are plenty of other ways of doing it without becoming yet another hot air factory. $eu
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2010, 09:54:14 PM
The main production centre of hot air is located on the first floor of the Town Hall in Lloyd Street, Llandudno.   Unfortunately output is never at maximum capacity due to non performance, or non attendance, of many of the production vessels.  However, sufficient appears to be emanating to confuse the uninitiated public before it disappears from the building into the ether apparently without purpose or effect.   Or maybe it does make a minor contribution to the increase in greenhouse gases!    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 23, 2010, 08:28:32 AM
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The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???
Hmmmm...something like this....

My daughter booked for this treatment but it was cancelled as all the fish had died !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on November 23, 2010, 09:53:44 AM
wasn't me honest!

If you are interested in Birdwatching Waxwings are  causing excitement amongst the twitchers in B&Q car park and Craig-y-Don Park!http://www.northwalesbirding.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4606&start=15 (http://www.northwalesbirding.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4606&start=15)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 23, 2010, 02:58:53 PM
My friend was telling me the other week that there is a spot in Ruthin where you often get the Waxwings.  We passed it on the way to a walk in Llangollen and it is near to a roundabout on the industrial estate.
Apparently it is the number of Rowan trees there that are attracting the birds
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on November 23, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
Yes they have been seen in abundance down there, haven't seen them myself but yesterday there were watchers with zoom lenses and tripods all set up! I think the spot is at the far end near the garden centre
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on November 23, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
Hi Hugo, Just letting you know I am back in Llandudno. Trying to work my way thru this new format, so different since I was in Aus  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 23, 2010, 04:28:58 PM
Hi Jas, good to know that you're back on the scene, hope you are settling in to your new home and that you've brought your Winter woolies with you for the months that lie ahead.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2010, 06:43:43 PM
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Trying to work my way thru this new format, so different since I was in Aus  :)
I bet the weather is, too!  :o

Welcome back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
Something seem to have gone a bit wrong with the KFC refurbishment, as it has reopened but the only furniture they have are some old patio type tables and chairs scattered around.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 05:58:33 PM
A bit of good news....
Just driven along the prom, and the town looks beautiful...BECAUSE.

1,The Pier Head is beautifully lit.
2,The light in Happy Valley Rd which shines on the Gt Orme is on,and looks great...

and...
3, The light on Ty Gwyn Rd, is actually shining again...(the other one which illuminates the Orme)  ... but that one is so dim that you can only see it by the time you reach North Parade...

Must be the pressure that DaveR applied to the Town Clerk !   Y^^Y &well&
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Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2010, 06:17:13 PM
...and the 'Welcome to Llandudno' sign in Penrhyn Bay is lit up as well! Good stuff!  ;D
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Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 06:26:18 PM
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Must be the pressure that DaveR applied to the Town Clerk !   Y^^Y &well&
It just goes to show a difference can be made through this forum. Its not all just coincidence,    )*)&
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Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 06:39:25 PM
I agree!
This Forum could definitely be a catalyst for a lot of good things.
There are lots of very intelligent and dedicated members (I don't count myself in that number)

Perhaps we could turn our combined focus on one issue....(a relatively small one like the Xmas lights, or a massive one like the Pier Pavilion) ... and not let go of it until some positive action is taken?  Why not?

There is something to be said for 'pester-power'

Through the medium of the Forum, the chosen issue would stay in the spotlight and visible to all.

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 25, 2010, 06:46:59 PM
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I agree!
This Forum could definitely be a catalyst for a lot of good things.
There are lots of very intelligent and dedicated members (I don't count myself in that number)

Perhaps we could turn our combined focus on one issue....(a relatively small one like the Xmas lights, or a massive one like the Pier Pavilion) ... and not let go of it until some positive action is taken?  Why not?

There is something to be said for 'pester-power'

Through the medium of the Forum, the chosen issue would stay in the spotlight and visible to all.




Good idea! I'll vote for the pier pavillion, which annoys me whenever I pass  :(
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Post by: wrex on November 25, 2010, 08:51:51 PM
 ;) Guess what i vote for. :P
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Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 09:54:38 PM
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;) Guess what i vote for. :P
Erm........nooooo don't tell me!...I know this one......erm....erm......  L0L
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Post by: Paddy on November 25, 2010, 10:05:11 PM
I'm with Merddin, it must be the Pier Pavillion. But for Wrex's benefit, when we get the site tidied up we can surround it with pretty lights!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 11:29:26 PM
Trying to be serious for a moment (most unlike me I admit) ... this Forum actually costs money to run.. and we don't pay anything....so perhaps we really should utilise it now to DO something for LLandudno (or any of the 3 towns)
If we don't, I fear that the Forum itself will become less relevant.   I doubt whether Dave and Ian would be happy to see it being used as a talking shop or a medium for games.  But I don't speak for them.

If we don't seize this opportunity and focus our efforts then the issue (for example the Pier Pavilion) will simply fade away again for a long period.

What we decide to do, who is involved and the approach we take should be the tangible subject of the next debate on this Forum.





 
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Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 11:37:45 PM
I would get involved Fester,  I truly think this forum could become a very important and formidable tool we could utilise to bring about change within the tree towns area. Lets see what happens.
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Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 11:53:01 PM
There we go... two of us already.

But you hit on an absolutely crucial point... NOTHING will happen if we wait to see what will happen.

So, I am now going to watch this thread with great interest .. to see what kind of momentum builds (if any)   $3towns$

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Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 11:57:40 PM
Ditto,

quote "they who think their too small to make a difference, have never slept with a mosquito in the bed"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 26, 2010, 08:13:58 AM
This is exactly what a community forum should be doing. Becoming a force for change in the local area. 

There are, however, caveats.  We will not be taken seriously unless and until folk start using their real names on the forum. Dave and I do, but few others display theirs, and that can be a stumbling block, since it implies a measure of fear and reticence to those whose minds we would seek to change.  We don't need to reveal surnames;  in fact, I would countenance against that, although Mike Smith and Jason do, among others, but we need to show people that we're not afraid of speaking out in our own right, and not behind some faintly perplexing sobriquet.
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Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2010, 10:21:46 AM
I don't mind what name people use on here (if we had 10 Daves it could get a bit confusing) but, obviously, we would have to use real names in any communication with outside parties.  :)

Some questions that need answers would be....

1) What problem building/site etc do we choose as the project?
2) What can we actually do to try and resolve the problem?

If I take the Pier Pavilion site as an example -

1) We could ask the local MP, Guto Bebb, to become involved.
2) The new Welsh Assembly member next May should be raring to go, get him involved.
3) Start an online Petition.
4) Start a Facebook page
5) Have a big banner made that said ' This site is a disgrace to Llandudno - Join us if you want to do something about it' and attach it to the fence surrounding the site.
6) Have an 'Eyesore Clock' on a website, that counts how much time has passed since the Pavilion burnt down.]
7) Ask locals and visitors what they would like to see on the site.

Make no mistake though, the Pier Pavilion is a very tricky issue to resolve. A private owner that doesn't want to sell, a Council that doesn't want to use its powers to acquire the site, a WAG that wont have much cash to give grants, and a recession that means private developers will struggle to raise any finance. Not being negative, just realistic.  :)
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Post by: dontheturner on November 26, 2010, 11:11:50 AM

  Hello Pendragon - re: the Mosquito - please!  don't knock it, till you've tried it.  (Sorry! Guys)   Don
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Post by: wrex on November 26, 2010, 12:14:59 PM
  :P I will chair the xmas lights for 2011 campaign. WWW
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Post by: Llechwedd on November 26, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
Put me down for the pier pavilion what you suggest is excellent.
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Post by: Pendragon on November 26, 2010, 03:14:49 PM
I have no problem using my name, most posts explain who I am anyway.
I would like to be involved in the xmas lights too. There's lots of fund raising ideas to consider, take a leaf from Penmaenmawrs book.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 26, 2010, 03:33:42 PM
I've no problem with my name on here, it's Andy Jones, Merddin Emrys just sounds so much more interesting  D)
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Post by: suepp on November 26, 2010, 03:57:28 PM
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I don't mind what name people use on here (if we had 10 Daves it could get a bit confusing) but, obviously, we would have to use real names in any communication with outside parties.  :)

Some questions that need answers would be....

1) What problem building/site etc do we choose as the project?
2) What can we actually do to try and resolve the problem?

If I take the Pier Pavilion site as an example -

1) We could ask the local MP, Guto Bebb, to become involved.
2) The new Welsh Assembly member next May should be raring to go, get him involved.
3) Start an online Petition.
4) Start a Facebook page
5) Have a big banner made that said ' This site is a disgrace to Llandudno - Join us if you want to do something about it' and attach it to the fence surrounding the site.
6) Have an 'Eyesore Clock' on a website, that counts how much time has passed since the Pavilion burnt down.]
7) Ask locals and visitors what they would like to see on the site.

Make no mistake though, the Pier Pavilion is a very tricky issue to resolve. A private owner that doesn't want to sell, a Council that doesn't want to use its powers to acquire the site, a WAG that wont have much cash to give grants, and a recession that means private developers will struggle to raise any finance. Not being negative, just realistic.  :)
I agree with all of the above and think there are some great suggestions, especially the Banner!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2010, 05:17:18 PM
I'm told that all buses from Llandudno heading towards Cowlyn Bay are being diverted along the A470 due to snow on the Little Orme/Penrhyn Hill.
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Post by: Paddy on November 26, 2010, 06:39:37 PM
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I'm told that all buses from Llandudno heading towards Cowlyn Bay are being diverted along the A470 due to snow on the Little Orme/Penrhyn Hill.

Dave, I went over the hill at 15:30 and it was clear. I came back at about 16:15 and it was bedlam. It took me 25 minutes to get from Penrhyn bay roundabout to the bottom of Craigside. I wonder if it was missed by the gritter?
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Post by: Yorkie on November 26, 2010, 06:55:50 PM
It took my other half almost an hour to get from the paddling pool to Penrhryn Bay Post Office.  I thought she'd been kidnapped but I wasn't so lucky!              ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2010, 07:03:22 PM
I noticed a heavy snow shower passing over the Little Orme at about 4.15pm, must have caused the problem.
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Post by: wrex on November 26, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
 :) It was a heavey hail shower and it did cause chaos. :-[
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Post by: wrex on November 26, 2010, 08:58:19 PM
Does anybody know what happened to the illuminated car park signs the town was promised and the town center manager. *&(
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Post by: Yorkie on November 26, 2010, 09:04:43 PM
I think it was Santa Claus who said he would provide them.   Don't tell me that you still believe in him?
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Post by: Trojan on November 26, 2010, 09:27:06 PM
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It took me 25 minutes to get from Penrhyn bay roundabout to the bottom of Craigside.

Meter wasn't running was it Paddy?  ???
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Post by: TheMedz on November 26, 2010, 09:32:15 PM
New use for Mike's Golf Course
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Post by: wrex on November 27, 2010, 04:34:06 PM
 :weeping: Oh my god i have just made the stupid mistake of going to Iceland foods,the car park was chaos its taken me twenty minutes to get to the lights,i must have mentioned this six months ago,Why oh why the managers of these stores are not going mad i don't know,they have to be losing some customers.The traffic lights on Conwy rd are only on green for 9 seconds causing chaos. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 08:06:16 PM
Have I missed something in recent times about cycling being permitted on the promenade?

I am just catching up with this week's Pioneer and there is a letter in the Postbag from Edward R Pickering expressing 'thanks for giving cyclists prom rights'.
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Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 08:45:42 PM
I have now found something on the Pioneer's website www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/95431/thumbs-up-for-llandudno-cycling.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/95431/thumbs-up-for-llandudno-cycling.aspx)

I think Mr Pickering gives the impression that it will go ahead - maybe he is being a bit presumptious.
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2010, 08:50:40 PM
The Llandudno Promenade Consultative Group. Let me guess, the same tired old faces desperately hanging on to the merest shred of supposed power?
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Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 08:53:39 PM
Cllrs John Ridler and Mike Hold appear to be the Town Council's 'appointees' but I was going to ask does anyone else know who is a member of the group?
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Post by: Yorkie on November 27, 2010, 09:40:52 PM
Mike likes to keep in touch with the Deck Chair Attendants hut that he built at great cost!   D)
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Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 09:48:41 PM
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Cllrs John Ridler and Mike Hold appear to be the Town Council's 'appointees'

Representation on Outside Bodies - Llandudno Town Council

www.llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies)
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Post by: Yorkie on November 28, 2010, 08:51:04 AM
Has anyone heard of them doing anything constructive for any of those groups?     ¢¢##
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Post by: Fester on November 29, 2010, 01:04:07 AM
Before the discussion about using this Forum as medium for action descends into oblivion,
I would like to advocate we do a series of POLLS on the subject.
Logically this will gauge the strength of support, and get the general disrection established.

However I am not sure how to set one up, with the voting buttons etc .

Stage 1
A simple YES / NO question .... do you think the forum should be used as a campaign mechanism?

If sufficient voters are seen, go to....

Stage 2
Set out the main options (Xmas Lights, Pier Pavilion etc) to see which one should be the centre of focus.

If the level of interest is deemed to be insufficient, then we settle back into games and quizzes until that fateful day when Dave and Ian have next years bill to pay!
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Post by: Ian on November 29, 2010, 07:38:35 AM
We can set up a poll, Fester, but there isn't the facility to do the if-then option that you suggest.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 29, 2010, 07:43:49 AM
I think that any action through this, or any other, Forum will be much too passive.  After all it is only words on a Computer Screen.

We need Action in the form of correctly presented Petitions, lobbying of MP's and Councillors and those in Authority.   We need organised Marches, publicity in all the available Media, and if neccessary withholding of Council Tax payments.  In fact any POSITIVE action we can conjour up.

Certainly we can issue the Rallying Cry through the Forum and let it be the avenue of communication but the Forum alone will not achieve what we are all seeking.     $wales   $uk   $eu
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Post by: Fester on November 29, 2010, 01:02:08 PM
Yes Yorkie.  Thats it exactly.
The Forum in itself can't do anything... but the representatives OF the Forum can, through the actions you outline.
The Forum would then attract a lot of attention in its own right...and the issues could be followed by 'the masses'

Ian, I was only advocating the stage 2 vote 'IF' there were sufficient responders to stage 1.

After all, there would be little point dividing say eight people across five causes.

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Post by: Micox on November 29, 2010, 04:55:11 PM
 ??? Wot's a goin' on? The last entry on page 22 was: "Has anyone heard of them doing anything constructive for any of those groups? " and now we have a chat about rebellion. *&(
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Post by: Hugo on November 29, 2010, 07:08:04 PM
It must have been colder than usual on the West Shore today because I've just seen a very brief clip on BBC Wales and the water on the beach was frozen!   
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Post by: Fester on November 29, 2010, 09:03:41 PM
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??? Wot's a goin' on? The last entry on page 22 was: "Has anyone heard of them doing anything constructive for any of those groups? " and now we have a chat about rebellion. *&(

Micox, this is because on this thread quite a few conversations can happen simultaneously.... its probably the busiest thread... try to keep up man!  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Fester on November 30, 2010, 11:01:39 PM
Here..(hopefully) is a picture I took at about 3.30pm today from the Orme summit, looking across the Estuary...

Beautiful, but absolutely ball freezing..!!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 01, 2010, 09:09:20 AM
Nice shot, mate.

A fair dusting of snow in the area today, side roads are pretty bad and even the main bus routes aren't great in places.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 01, 2010, 06:32:31 PM
My wife and I went up to Grandpa's grave on the Orme and there were some lovely icicle formations around Marine Drive.  The only camera I had with me was my little Sanyo Exacti so I did take a couple of shots.  If they are any good I'll post them on the Forum.  Got to start preping the evening meal now - something warming is the order of the day!                    :D
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Post by: Blongb on December 02, 2010, 03:05:23 PM
The Government is hoping Small Business is going to help power the economy out of recession, so it was very refreshing to see Gimberts on the Corner of Mostyn Street doing their bit by giving the town’s shoppers a free, up to date, weather forecast.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2010, 04:32:19 PM
Fester encouraged me to give Wetherspoons food another try, so we popped in this afternoon. Within 5 mins of entering, a fight broke out amongst 2 'regulars' that resulted in police and paramedics being called. Burger was good, though...
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 02, 2010, 04:44:43 PM
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Fester encouraged me to give Wetherspoons food another try, so we popped in this afternoon. Within 5 mins of entering, a fight broke out amongst 2 'regulars' that resulted in police and paramedics being called. Burger was good, though...

   We've never seen 'entertainment' in there and 6 of us are going there next week for a xmas dinner, we've always liked the food there, for my simple tastes its very good for the price  D)
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Post by: Fester on December 02, 2010, 05:30:38 PM
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Fester encouraged me to give Wetherspoons food another try, so we popped in this afternoon. Within 5 mins of entering, a fight broke out amongst 2 'regulars' that resulted in police and paramedics being called. Burger was good, though...

The Burger was better than the fight... and lasted much longer.
Apart from the good value food, you have to admit it was a hell of a good shot with that crutch!   WWW WWW

Merddin, I am looking forward to my £7.99 Xmas Dinner in there, one day next week .. with or without the floor show!
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Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2010, 05:44:10 PM
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My wife and I went up to Grandpa's grave on the Orme and there were some lovely icicle formations around Marine Drive.
These were on the Marine Drive today:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5226367291_9403de76b0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5226367291/)
Icicles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5226367291/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Yorkie on December 02, 2010, 05:49:56 PM
Lot better than my shots which were not good enough to post!   ZXZ
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 02, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
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The Burger was better than the fight... and lasted much longer.
Apart from the good value food, you have to admit it was a hell of a good shot with that crutch!   WWW WWW

Merddin, I am looking forward to my £7.99 Xmas Dinner in there, one day next week .. with or without the floor show!


 L0L we're in there next Wednesday at lunchtime, looking forward to it, do I need to book the floor show? L0L
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Post by: Jas on December 03, 2010, 12:02:44 PM
snakecorp, I liked that photo of the icicles. I would love to send a copy to my friends in Aus & tell them, this is my shower now. lol. I am able to download it from here??
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 01:47:12 PM
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snakecorp, I liked that photo of the icicles. I would love to send a copy to my friends in Aus & tell them, this is my shower now. lol. I am able to download it from here??
Yes, just right-click on the photo, then a little menu should pop up with an option to 'save image as' or similar. Save it to your hard drive and then attach it to your email to send.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 03, 2010, 05:33:49 PM
I am absolutely gutted.... I have just arrived home, to find all the doors are open, and everything has gone.... ransacked,...totally empty.

Thats Christmas RUINED.!!!  ¢¢##


What sort of person would do this to someones Advent Calendar????  VV



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 03, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
Does anyone know why the police were seemingly randomly pulling over town bound cars near the Links Hotel this afternoon? On a similar note I was travelling back from Manchester along the A55 near St Asaph this afternoon I was passed at speed by about 6 police outrider bikes (Blue lights  flashing) followed by an unmarked  Volvo Estate and A Police Car (blue lights again) and then 3 further blue lights police bikes. My immediate thought was William on the way back from the world cup draw but instead of continuing onto Anglesey they all went off at the St Asaph slip road. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 07:39:13 PM
As regards the second point, North Wales Police do a lot of police driver training, it could have been something to do with that.
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Post by: Fester on December 03, 2010, 07:42:18 PM
Sounds to me like a VERY important person..... (in the Volvo) .... either Wills or Oscar?

Might have needed to go for a pee at St Asaph?   Or a Big Mac and regular fries?

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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 07:48:55 PM
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Sounds to me like a VERY important person..... (in the Volvo) .... either Wills or Oscar?
Oscar, indeed!  _))* _))* _))*

There was a lot of police activity outside the Orient Express cafe this afternoon.  An umarked police Focus went racing up Mostyn Street with lights flashing, followed closely by a police van. Went I went past about 30 mins later, there was still a police patrol car parked outside in the bus stop.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2010, 08:00:26 PM
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Does anyone know why the police were seemingly randomly pulling over town bound cars near the Links Hotel this afternoon?

Apparently they were stopping cars with snow on the roof - issuing £60 fixed penalty notices - something about it being dangerous if it all flew off over windscreens, following cars etc.

Linda Groom put warning on facebook last night.
"For everyone who drives, if you don't already know, As of tomorrow the
Police will be pulling over anyone driving around with snow on the roof
of their car and will automatically be issued with a £60 fixed penalty
and 3 points on your licence!!! please repost this on your pages"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2010, 08:06:09 PM
The part of the RTA that applies:

s3 Road Traffic Act 1988 (as amended):- "Careless, and inconsiderate, driving. If a person drives a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road or place, he is guilty of an offence."

Never heard of it before in all my years, and that's quite a few!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
It's crazy. They should try using that section of the RTA to target all those idiots driving around town at top speed, instead of focussing on the easy targets yet again.
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Post by: white rabbit on December 03, 2010, 08:13:35 PM
I saw an unmarked police car with flashing blue lights closlely followed by a poloce van with flashing blue lights at Bog Island this afternoon - can't remember what time but around 3pm-3.30?  They were heading up Mostyn St very quickly!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2010, 08:25:12 PM
Re Police action on roof snow.

I try to keep on top of what is happening with the Laws of the Land and this to me is just a bit of opportunism on behalf of the North Wales Police.   I wonder what PC Mike Smith thinks about it?   No doubt such action will make the public more antagonistic towards the Police and reduce cooperation and interest in their welfare.  

Moral in the force is rumoured as being low and the Officers employed on such excercises must feel that the motorist is just being persecuted, and realise the backlash that will result.

Why must they prosecute in this case? Surely better to pass on some advice which would be taken on-board by most responsible motorists.  But that solution is too easy, and certainly not cash generating.

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2010, 10:29:40 PM
I've said for some years that as far as motorists go, with all these dreadful speed cameras etc that the police are just tax collectors and now snow on roofs  :rage:  is half an inch ok or is there a maximum depth allowed? and if you clear it off on to the road will they fine you for littering!
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Post by: ormegolf on December 03, 2010, 10:37:31 PM
God help all coach drivers if they hear of this in Austria!!!
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Post by: TheMedz on December 03, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
sorry it's bit risque but how many points is this one worth?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2010, 10:47:02 PM
quite often I see the waves crashing on to cars on the promenade between Penrhyn Bay and Rhos on Sea, the police should fine the sea for careless and inconsiderate behavour  L0L
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2010, 10:47:59 PM
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sorry it's bit risque but how many points is this one worth?

 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 03, 2010, 10:48:50 PM
I was just driving along and they came out of nowhere!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2010, 10:52:21 AM
Apparently, milk supplies in Asda are running low as all their milk comes from Yorkshire and tankers have not been able to get to the farms. This is were having local suppliers always pays off!

I also noticed in the Co-op yesterday that they had no sandwiches due to 'extreme weather conditions'!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 04, 2010, 01:57:38 PM
There is NO milk in ASDA.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on December 04, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
I cannot confirm this as being true, but years ago the residents of Llanrwst (a market town surrounded by farms) swore that Summerfields milk supplies came from Scotland. It was certainly a large enoiugh lorry to supply hundreds of retail outlets.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 04, 2010, 07:18:31 PM
Did anyone go to the xmas parade today, I was in work so missed it.  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 04, 2010, 07:26:13 PM
Doesn't seem to be any reports from anyone.  I didn't go into town so can't comment.  No doubt the inquest and post mortem will follow in due course!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 04, 2010, 08:08:31 PM
My wife and I walked into town   about 4pm watched the Samba Band outside the town hall and then stood opposite M&S for the parade. As first time watchers we really enjoyed it. Surrounded by children who also seemed to be enjoying it.  Couldn't quite understand the link between Star Wars and Christmas but hey ho.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on December 04, 2010, 08:16:23 PM
Santa in his sleigh came past our house about 15 mins ago :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 04, 2010, 08:29:08 PM
Did any of hislittle helpers knock at your door asking for money?   If not it was probably the real Santa, otherwise it could have been the Round Tablers on their usual Xmas Fund Raising efforts.    ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 04, 2010, 09:46:38 PM
Mrs Fester and I popped down to the Parade...and enjoyed it as usual.
Seen about six of them, but its a nice thing to do..... you don't see such things in most towns!

Mercifully, the rain abated in the late afternoon,... in fact its a standing joke in our house that we know it will rain on parade day.. it always has.

I'm with Medz though,  I am sick of the sight of the tired looking Star Wars stormtroopers... they are in it every year, and poke thier noses into the Victorian Extravaganza parade too!    Thats even more inappropriate, at least Star Wars films are on telly at Xmas..( a tenuous excuse)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2010, 08:46:22 AM
I saw this comment on Facebook last night:

"Just seen Darth Vader and some stormtroopers lead the Christmas parade through town - I wasn't aware that the 25th of December was the day we celebrated Anakin Skywalker's birth. Llandudno Town Council, you are WITHOUT QUESTION an absolute embarrassment and about as much use as a fart in a spacesuit. Go and take a 2,296ft walk on our 2,295ft pier."
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Post by: ormegolf on December 05, 2010, 08:59:53 PM
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Post by: ormegolf on December 05, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
Re the above photo. Bad news for next years unborn lambs. You wont get to Ty Gwyn Road now!!! Hope someone remembers to put a fence at both ends
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
About time too!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 05, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
Good effort but it won’t keep the goats out
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on December 05, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
No, but, apart from Llys Heulig Drive, nobody really minds them. They are happy eating bushes (not grass) and have been around the Orme for well over 100 years---and the visitors on whom we all rely love them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 06, 2010, 09:09:41 AM
Try clearing up if they have managed to get into your garden overnight !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 06, 2010, 11:08:31 AM
Nemesis, I bet you have not lived here that long?
If you had you would know the Goats have followed the same pattern for years and years.
My husband remembers them going into his garden on Gloddaeth ave in the 60's.
They have an excuse to foul the pavement, not like the s..t machines that humans walk around with and let foul the pavements.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2010, 11:40:03 AM
We had the goats in our garden constantly when we lived in Gloddaeth Avenue.   The peculiar thing was that they only ever ate one certain plant.  No good asking me which as I know nothing of horticulture.  The regular pruning by the goats seemed to help the plant rather than anything else.   Long may they reign, especially now that we have moved away!!     ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on December 06, 2010, 01:59:51 PM
There are are at least THREE shrub-like things they are partial to - hebes, pyracantha, and escollona. I have seen a friend's plants of those types well and truly pruned in Abbey Road.

PS Cartier, I don't think you are going to get a very polite reply from Nemesis - she has been around in Llandudno for quite a while.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 06, 2010, 05:16:41 PM
"PS Cartier, I don't think you are going to get a very polite reply from Nemesis - she has been around in Llandudno for quite a while."

Does anyone?
lol.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on December 06, 2010, 05:53:59 PM
Oh, I appear to have stirred up a hornets nest in mentioning the goats. Sorry. But Nemeses, I must say that as far as clearing up after them goes, I would claim to have the record experience on this subject. Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 06, 2010, 07:05:21 PM
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Does anyone?
lol.

Not sure what you mean by that, Cartier.  Can you elucidate, please?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
I think Cartier means,     " Does anyone get a polite reply from Nemesis?"    

Forgive me if my interpretation is incorrect.   ))*

But the lol probably indicates that it was sent in "humerous" tone.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 07, 2010, 09:45:13 AM
He/she never seems happy with the town and is quite sharp on the key board.
I read on the old forum they had only been in the town 10/12 years, so if it's that bad why still here?
No rudeness intended on my behalf.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on December 07, 2010, 12:20:37 PM
Cartier says no rudeness intended towards Nemesis, does`nt sound like it to me.
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Post by: Ian on December 07, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
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No rudeness intended on my behalf.

I'm afraid that's not how it came across. Nemesis is a valued and regular contributor. I think your comment was misplaced.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 07, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
Nemesis has just come back on line after a hectic few days.
Cartier-- I don't know where you have suddenly sprung from, but I don't consider your comments worth answering.
You needn't think that I shall rise to your needling.
End of.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on December 07, 2010, 02:43:41 PM
Good for you Nemesis  D) D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 07, 2010, 03:08:46 PM
 ;D Thanks !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 07, 2010, 04:53:33 PM
Well perhaps others can see what I mean now.
Keep your hair on. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on December 07, 2010, 05:25:35 PM
And to think I started all this off. I only wanted to show a photo of a cattle grid!!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 07, 2010, 09:31:03 PM
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Well perhaps others can see what I mean now.
Your absolutely right Cartier.............We can see exactly who has the Acid tongue and who's the sharp one on the keyboard.  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 12:17:39 AM
To get back to the Goats for a minute, every year as the winter progresses and fodder gets harder for them to find they jump over my gate, eat most of what's left in my front Garden, leave me loads of little round presents and then move next door to do the same thing all over again. They wont get much this year as the garden is still in bags on North Parade, waiting for the recyclers to come and collect it. As the Goats belong to the town I've often wondered why CCBC isn't prosecuted by the RSPCA for animal cruelty. I understand that they are feral but surely they have a duty of care to provide them with fodder just like any other responsible animal keeper

PS Nemesis welcome back, I don't like needling either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 08:25:51 AM
At one time the old Aberconwy Borough Council were the "carers" for the goats but they officially abrogated their responsibility in the 1990's (I believe).  Since then the goats were not looked after and were classed a feral.  At some time in the 90's Dr Craig Cameron, President of the Llandudno Civic Council, accepted responsibilty but in name only.   For the past few years CCBC have held a watching brief and have carried out a program of keeping numbers down by systematic birth control.   The Orme Wardens do report and take care of any sick or injured animals but that is as far as their interest extends.   The animals are feral exactly the same as the foxes, rabbits, rats, birds, and all the other wildlife on the Orme.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 09:04:57 AM
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At some time in the 90's Dr Craig Cameron, President of the Llandudno Civic Council, accepted responsibilty but in name only.
What was the point of that, then?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 10:10:13 AM
We will never know!   Unfortunately Dr Cameron passed away earlier this year.

There was some publicity in the local rag at the time and even a short video on the BBC Welsh news

His intentions as a Town Councillor and as President of the Llandudno Civic Council, were always generous, but his method of implementation rather questionable.   )*)&

19 September 2000  BBC News
Tuesday, 19 September, 2000, 15:00 GMT 16:00 UK
Fight to keep goats Welsh

The goats have lived on the Orme for a hundred years
A Llandudno town councillor is fighting plans to move some of the town's unique wild goats to England to encourage breeding.
Experts are warning the species could die out unless they are moved from their home for the last hundred years on Llandudno's Great Orme.
But Dr Craig Cameron says splitting up the herd is unnecessary, and could bring to an end the goat's long association with the headland.
The goats living on the Great Orme today are descendants of the first breed to come to Britain.
The cashmere goats were maintained by Queen Victoria and were used as mascots for he Royal Welch Fusiliers.
But the county council is warning that unless they are broken up and encouraged to begin breeding at other sites in Britain the herd will have no future.
Town councillor Dr Cameron said he would prefer to keep the herd together.
"The herd has user rights, " he said.
"They have been here for 100 years. and I intend to make sure they stay here."
Dr Cameron believes there are sufficient numbers here to keep the species thriving, and he is taking steps to try and prevent any break up.
He is hoping to become the legal owner of the herd to allow the goats the right to stay on the Great Orme.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 06:04:11 PM
I have had the great pleasure of meeting both Nemesis and Pendragon.
They are both lovely and very forthright people...... :twoface: :twoface: Neither suffer fools gladly!
(You are both quite similar in that respect)
Different writing styles maybe..?
Anyway I won't hear a word against them....(because I am deaf)


Now...regarding the Goats, they are in my garden regularly and have decimated various trees / shrubs.
I would like to know one simple thing.   Am I allowed to eat them?    $dins$ $dins$   $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 08, 2010, 06:17:06 PM
aah thanks for that Fester.  :P

If you accidently on purpose ran a goat over thus rendering it road kill, you could eat it I would think.

I'M JOKING OF COURSE  L0L

 $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 06:40:41 PM
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aah thanks for that Fester.  :P

If you accidently on purpose ran a goat over thus rendering it road kill, you could eat it I would think.

I'M JOKING OF COURSE  L0L

 $hands$

Mmm good idea.... I won't bother fixing that slipping hand-brake, for the next time I see them in the road!   Yummm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
No point risking damaging your car - just shoot them as trespassers next time they encroach on your property.    Drag the carcass into the garage or shed and I doubt anyone would even know.  The scalp and horns will look great on the trophy wall.                         ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 07:12:50 PM
They really are tough old animals. A couple of years ago again on the Colonnades leading up to Happy Valley, I helped a RSPCA Inspector remove a 4 foot metal stake on which a goat had impaled itself. It had jumped on to it as it came down the hill. The point had gone in at the front just under its breast bone, passed right through its chest cavity and exited just behind its rib cage. As luck would have it, the skewer had managed to miss every thing vital on its way through. After a good twenty minutes tugging and pulling we finally managed to get it out and did that dammed animal show any gratitude? No not a bit of it. It just shook it’s self down and then ran off up the hill.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 07:30:38 PM
BlongB!... Sorry, I should have told you at the time.... the Goat sent you this T-shirt to show its gratitude..

Plus did you know that the 'Thank You Goat' ... is akin to the Xmas Turkey, in the Muslim religion?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 07:38:45 PM
When I liver in Egypt Fester, all the neighbours would buy a live one just before the end of Ramadan. They brought them home and kept them on their balconies until the allotted time and then  ))* they were no more. Can't see Environmental Health letting us get away with that in North Wales somehow   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on December 08, 2010, 07:47:15 PM
Blongb, absolutely first class, and the RSPCA inspector. I doubt very much whether I could helped in a situation like this. I would be good at running for help, and probably that is about all. Unbelievable that the goat survived. What did the RSPCA man make of the fact that it didnt appear to have suffered any serious harm?
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Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 07:54:53 PM
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Blongb, absolutely first class, and the RSPCA inspector. I doubt very much whether I could helped in a situation like this. I would be good at running for help, and probably that is about all. Unbelievable that the goat survived. What did the RSPCA man make of the fact that it didnt appear to have suffered any serious harm?
Just because the goat ran off, that doesn't mean it didn't suffer any serious harm. A goat will do anything to get away from humans, even if badly injured. Remember that time when efforts were made to round up a group of them for rehoming, they jumped off the cliffs rather than allow themselves to be captured. Sadly, I suspect the one that ran off almost certainly died at some point later.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 08:00:49 PM
We both put it down as sheer fluke. Do you remember the judge at the athletics meet who managed to get himself skewered with no lasting side effects, except a couple of extra holes, same thing with the goat. No sign of bleeding and as far as I know the thing is still alive and well  ££$ It had supposedly been stuck there for at least 3 days before we got to it, so I think if it was going to bleed to death it would probably have done so by then given the time frame
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 08, 2010, 09:42:26 PM
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I have had the great pleasure of meeting both Nemesis and Pendragon.
They are both lovely and very forthright people...... :twoface: :twoface: Neither suffer fools gladly!
(You are both quite similar in that respect)
Different writing styles maybe..?
Anyway I won't hear a word against them....(because I am deaf)


Now...regarding the Goats, they are in my garden regularly and have decimated various trees / shrubs.
I would like to know one simple thing.   Am I allowed to eat them?    $dins$ $dins$   $hands$

Thanks Fester and I'm glad we are of a similar nature Pendragon!

Now as for the goat which you are about to curry----- please don't put your extractor fan on fully or I imagine that we'll get the pong down here below you !
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 09, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
All this talk of eating the Orme Goats prompted a prominent member of this Forum to contact me with this fantastic story.
Its all true, but the member in question wishes to remain anonymous,  well just for now...

Just after the war, the member in question and their family had nowhere to live!  So they dwelled for a time in the gunsite buildings on the Orme's western slopes.
Food was on short ration, so the Father shot wild rabbits for food for his family.
Every now and again, the odd goat might 'accidentally' get in the way.
When this happened, there was a surplus of meat, which couldn't be stored (no fridge or freezer), so the member's father sold it in the town, and passed it off as Venison!
No one ever twigged, and repeat orders were frequent.

I love this account, (and more which came my way) I do't think it should be anonymous any longer... in fact it deserves to be written into a book.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on December 09, 2010, 12:56:26 AM
Sounds like one of the Cox family escapades to me!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 09, 2010, 02:30:21 PM
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Well perhaps others can see what I mean now.
Keep your hair on.

Cartier: your style of posting approaches flaming. That is prohibited under our Ts and Cs and we will take action if you persist.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 10, 2010, 12:08:24 PM
Llandudno is a great place to live,but we must get a proactive council and clear the dead wood who are holding the town back. :rage: :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 10, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
I got a big powerful chainsaw when you're ready!      Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 01:47:29 PM
I popped into Wetherspoons yesterday and was interested to see that they had a large framed display all about Alex Munro on the wall by the rear entrance steps. As part of the display, there are a few photos and old programmes, including oddly enough, a photo of the same numbered programme that I have on the forum gallery. Do I have grounds for suing Wetherspoons?  :o  ;D

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Post by: Yorkie on December 10, 2010, 05:00:02 PM
Must be worth a weeks free beer!    Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 05:25:21 PM
The pier is having a lot of repair work carried out at the moment:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
Its good that refurbishment is under way.  But one thing worries me.
Quite a few of the cast iron side rails seem to have fallen apart when removed.
They are brittle and rusted through in parts and I don't see how they can be replaced.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
I noticed that also. Cast iron is very brittle anyway, so it is inevitable that some will be broken whenever they are removed for maintenance. I suppose some new ones will have to be cast. Maybe they can put the kiosk rents up to pay for it?  ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 07:25:09 PM
I know Fester will be interested in this. I've found that last year (year end 2009) that Six Piers Ltd made a LOSS of £7.3 million. This year, they made a profit...of £174,000 on a Turnover of £9.6m. That's rubbish.  Incidentally, South Parade Pier in Portsmouth has been sold, meaning that the company should really be renamed Five Piers Ltd!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 12, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
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Maybe they can put the kiosk rents up to pay for it?  ¢¢##

 L0L L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2010, 08:00:19 PM
By even joking about that subject, it will simply give them more ammunition to do just that.

There are 2 ways to look at any set of figures.
After a loss of over £7m in 2009, they may well have had a target in 2010 to halve that loss, or even break even.   
This may well be seen as an excellent result.   Without knowing the businss plan, who knows?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 08:14:23 PM
I doubt Trevor Hemmings reads this forum....  ::)

It's an appalling result, regardless of the plan. A very poor profit as a % of turnover and I suspect an even more miserable return on capital employed. A business that controls such great assets should be making tons of cash. Should be a GOLDMINE!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 12, 2010, 08:59:17 PM
If you look at all the pies that Trevor Hemmings has his fingers into the little blip in the fortunes of Six Piers won't keep him awake for one minute.  He is personally reckoned to be worth in excess of £300m.  Also the loss on Six Piers will probably be brought into a consolidated statement of accounts with all the rest of his interests and the individual significance will be lost.

I don't think anyone should worry about rent increases!      >?>?? >?>?? $hands$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 09:23:38 PM
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If you look at all the pies that Trevor Hemmings has his fingers into the little blip in the fortunes of Six Piers won't keep him awake for one minute.  He is personally reckoned to be worth in excess of £300m.  Also the loss on Six Piers will probably be brought into a consolidated statement of accounts with all the rest of his interests and the individual significance will be lost.
It's a little more concerning when you consider that, a few years ago, he was worth £1bn!

Seriously, of course, the more immediate relevance is that a business that makes a loss or very small profit is not generating the capital needed to fund future investment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 12, 2010, 09:39:59 PM
However, it is often prudent where consolidation has to take place to allow a loss situation with one or other of the companies.  Without details of all the pies and the countries in which they are registered there could well be a tax benefit associated with the loss.   With a large Empire cash generation in one small part is not neccessarily that important as support is available from the group as a whole.   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on December 14, 2010, 12:21:06 PM
Just noticed a new sign in Past Times shop window.  This shop is only open for Christmas etc. So another empty shop in January!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 15, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
A friend who lives in town told me apparently there was petrol put through the letter box of the Cost Cutter by the Gresham yesterday by a disgruntled customer, is that true  ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on December 15, 2010, 07:21:25 PM
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A friend who lives in town told me apparently there was petrol put through the letter box of the Cost Cutter by the Gresham yesterday by a disgruntled customer, is that true  ?

I heard that someone set fire to the Londis store in the early hours at the top of Madoc Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 15, 2010, 07:33:02 PM
I don't think they set it on fire as they were caught on CCTV across the road but they did put petrol through the letter box ? They got the guy, I was told some "local nutter" was responsible he did it as he'd been barred or  something.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 15, 2010, 07:47:33 PM
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I was told some "local nutter" was responsible he did it as he'd been barred or  something.
There's plenty to choose from!  :o
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Post by: Fester on December 16, 2010, 04:21:13 PM
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I was told some "local nutter" was responsible he did it as he'd been barred or  something.
There's plenty to choose from!  :o

Ha ha, yes... that description hardly narrows it down.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 17, 2010, 04:12:21 PM
Can't believe all this snow, have you seen the size of the flakes, I'm hoping I'll be able to get home tonight, I bet Conwy is even worse. Nice to see though isn't it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: tolly on December 18, 2010, 12:37:54 AM
Teehee i know what you mean,like something out of Monty Python....... D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2010, 02:54:41 PM
I was in Mostyn Street today standing by the Traffic lights outside of M and S waiting for my wife and was looking at the traffic in the street.
The lights were on red so a car travelling in the direction of Craig Y Don  stopped in the centre of the road and then someone just undertook him and shot through the red lights and parked on the zig zag lines by the bank. They were just picking someone up with their shopping.
It was lucky that he didn't run over any one, another guy looked at me in disbelief but by the time I got to the other car he was pulling away probably blissfully unaware of the stupid thing he had done. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dontheturner on December 22, 2010, 01:09:47 AM
Hugo,--- I understand the Driver - he is most likely from Thailand.

My friend, is a lecturer at the King's College, in Bangkok, and was turning right, into the College yesterday morning  (With his signal going) when some prize Thai Driver, overtook, into his Front Door - my friend now has a head injury, and no transport.    *** == This Is Thailand     dontheturner
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Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2010, 08:19:47 AM
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I was in Mostyn Street today standing by the Traffic lights outside of M and S waiting for my wife and was looking at the traffic in the street.
The lights were on red so a car travelling in the direction of Craig Y Don  stopped in the centre of the road and then someone just undertook him and shot through the red lights and parked on the zig zag lines by the bank. They were just picking someone up with their shopping.
It was lucky that he didn't run over any one, another guy looked at me in disbelief but by the time I got to the other car he was pulling away probably blissfully unaware of the stupid thing he had done. :rage:
Amazing, total stupidity.  :rage:
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Post by: Ian on December 22, 2010, 09:56:03 AM
What's been particularly noticeable over the past few weeks is that as soon as we get a substantial amount of snowfall, people seem to disengage their brains. Motorists seem to think they can park anywhere - including the middles of roads, people walk in the road instead of the pavement, and that at a time when the roads are decidedly more lethal, owing to the slushy mess of partially frozen grit, ice and dirt, drivers seem to think speed limits are an aspiration, rather than a restriction and - generally - folk seem to lose their sense of perspective.
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Post by: Jas on December 22, 2010, 11:18:21 AM
You cant believe the snow Pendragaon, This my first Christmas in Wales for over 30yrs. I was thrilled when I first saw it, now I am stuck in the House I am not so sure!!!. Just hope my brother can managed to pick me up on the 25th so I can have some Turkey :laugh: I must say tho it does all look very pretty out there.  MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE.  Jas
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Post by: Pendragon on December 22, 2010, 11:27:14 AM
Merry Xmas to you too Jas.  VV %0%
It does look lovely, but it's causing havok to  businesses.
I won't be able to open today. I'm hoping Xmas eve will be ok as we have a party on.
Theres supposed to be more snow on the way again.
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Click on the blue 'reply' button (bottom RH side) then 'additional options', then browse.  That reveals your desktop, where you simply select the image you want to upload and click.
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Post by: Ian on December 22, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
More comprehensively:

How to upload photos to a post.

1) After writing your post, underneath the message box, click on Additional Options.
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Have a go, any problems, just let me know and I will advise.
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Post by: Jas on December 22, 2010, 04:10:24 PM
thanx Ian, Will try again.    :)
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Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2010, 04:11:50 PM
I understand there has been a rock fall on Marine Drive and it will be closed for a while.
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Post by: Pendragon on December 22, 2010, 11:31:55 PM
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Dominic says your closing next month, bloody shame pendragon.

Cartier I may get a bollocking for this from the moderators but I'm going to say what I think anyway.
There's something particularly spiteful about you. A fly in the ointment so to speak. Your posts are always tinged with a sour vindictive tone.  Dom is in the process of selling the club not that its any of your business but I assure you your not telling me anything I don't know, much to your disappointment I suspect. We will endeavour to keep the club open for as long as possible. No closing date has been determined yet but I assure You of this Cartier I will know well before you do.
 >>> >>>  :rage: WWW WWW
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Post by: Ian on December 23, 2010, 08:16:08 AM
Pendragon:

I must apologise to you for not dealing with Cartier's posting when it was made.  When I saw it, I wondered if there's been any pubic announcement but clearly there hadn't.  We don't want to step in prematurely, but it's now clear that what you have just posted shows we should have acted sooner.

Cartier:

You have continually flouted the Ts and Cs of this forum and if there is one more instance we will take firm action. For now this is a formal warning - and it's your last.


 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on December 23, 2010, 05:36:48 PM
Watch yourself Cartier!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2010, 01:45:47 PM
Congratulations to the swimmers today, they said the sea temperature was -13C surely there would be sea ice? anyway well done to them!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260008.jpg)n

strange effect of water here!!
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260008-2.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260013.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260015.jpg)
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Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2010, 02:10:46 PM
Nice pics, Andy. That girl in the bikini must have been cold!  :o
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Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
Didn't see you there, perhaps you were in the water ;D Someone announced that it was minus 18 degrees, hope for their sakes your figure was correct!
Imagine having all that wet cold camel costume draped round you . Yeuk !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
they were saying minus 13C but I'm sure it would freeze below minus 9C Ian put a link to a site the other day which shows sea temperatures

http://www.seafordweather.co.uk/wl/UKSeaTemp.htm (http://www.seafordweather.co.uk/wl/UKSeaTemp.htm)

mind you I'm sure for the swimmers (of which I was not one  _))* ) it felt like minus 20C  :o :o
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Post by: Ian on December 27, 2010, 08:39:14 AM
Quote
mind you I'm sure for the swimmers (of which I was not one  ) it felt like minus 20C

Given the air temperature, that's eactly what it would have seemed :-))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
Nice video about the recent snow in Llandudno:

Llandudno @ Christmas 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImCfAZcQ0nA#)
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Post by: Richard on December 27, 2010, 07:23:09 PM

http://www.sea-temperature.com/country_water/great%20britain/25 (http://www.sea-temperature.com/country_water/great%20britain/25)

This shows sea temperatures of 7 - 9 degrees, still cold enough to worry a brass monkey. You have to admire the spirit of anyone going for a swim in that!

The Aberporth bouy obs is 8 degress today.
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Post by: TheMedz on December 27, 2010, 07:24:21 PM
Brilliant video.
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Post by: Fester on December 27, 2010, 08:12:35 PM
Excellent video....Well Done Dave R !
The person who spliced all that together must have covered a lot of ground in a short time...because the light was so similar.
Really enjoyed it...
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Post by: Nemesis on December 28, 2010, 12:16:17 PM
Excellent Video
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Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
That's a great video and I've passed it on to a number of friends as I know they'll enjoy watching it.
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Post by: Blongb on December 28, 2010, 04:16:08 PM
Loved the shot of my back gate Dave, your a brave man using that path in the snow. Ring the bell and get a glass of cheer next time  Z**
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Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2010, 04:20:08 PM
Heyyyy, I didn't make the video, I just posted the link to it on here! I'd love to take the credit for it but, no, it was not me, I cannot take the credit!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on December 31, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
Does anyone know if the pubs are open on New Years days if so which one's we've got family over and we might end up killing each other if we spend too much time indoors? and what times Asda is open today?
Thanks folks
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Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
Give 'em a ring!
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Post by: Bellringer on December 31, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Asda's website says that Llandudno is open till 7pm today and open tomorrow 9am to 6pm.

Sorry don't know about pubs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 31, 2010, 05:49:40 PM
Most (maybe all) pubs are open New Years day .... The Queen Vic or The Fat Cat in Llandudno are recommended for lunch...

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on December 31, 2010, 06:29:42 PM
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Give 'em a ring!

I don't think there's any Jewellers open.

It's cheaper to buy alcohol too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 01, 2011, 05:09:05 PM
Amazing the number of businesses closed in Llandudno today, there were a lot of people about but many of the cafes, bars and shops were closed.
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Post by: Trojan on January 01, 2011, 06:09:57 PM
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Amazing the number of businesses closed in Llandudno today, there were a lot of people about but many of the cafes, bars and shops were closed.

What were the people doing, just walking around?
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Post by: Yorkie on January 01, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
No - They were hopping mad!      L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 01, 2011, 08:17:36 PM
Last New Years Day, I wondered around in Llandudno, had a great Sunday Lunch in the Queen Vic... did a bit of shopping and I recall most bars and businesses were open.  It was on that basis that I informed Dingo that most places would be open.

But...as Dave says it was astonishing how many places were closed.
The town itself was very busy... and there were loads of people milling around on the Prom and the Pier...with nothing to spend their money on.

I phoned up a few places that were closed, to ask if they would be open tonight, or even tomorrow.
A couple were opening tonight.   But some won't be open until Tuesday!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 01, 2011, 08:26:36 PM
Then the businesses will be moaning at the end of January that trading has been awful. Moral of the story - you can't take money if your business is closed. Mr Dickens knows this full well, his businesses are always open.
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Post by: Trojan on January 01, 2011, 11:56:06 PM
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Then the businesses will be moaning at the end of January that trading has been awful. Moral of the story - you can't take money if your business is closed. Mr Dickens knows this full well, his businesses are always open.

*photo attached to the moral of the story*
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Post by: Fester on January 02, 2011, 12:19:16 AM
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Then the businesses will be moaning at the end of January that trading has been awful. Moral of the story - you can't take money if your business is closed. Mr Dickens knows this full well, his businesses are always open.

And Rightly So Dave.....   They are usually occupied by you and I !!
If he opens anymore,  I'll go there too!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2011, 08:52:20 AM
I hear there was a serious house fire in Trafford Park, Penrhyn Bay, last night.  :(
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Post by: Ian on January 03, 2011, 09:21:57 AM
I heard that on BBC news this morning, although he mis-pronounced 'Penrhyn' and called it 'Pentryn'.  However, it wasn't on the text service at that point, the excellent adjunct to the BBC news which - sadly - is bearing the brunt of the cutbacks.
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Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2011, 09:24:17 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12106875 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12106875)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on January 03, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Am I alone in thinking that the streets and public areas of LLanduno are getting worse ?
A walk along the North Shore prom this week and it's noticeable that ownershave not been cleaning up after their dogs even when they must be in full view from the hotel windows. There was all too much evidence of people having had the misfortune of treading in it too.What a dreadful impression to give our visitors.
Is it any wonder that many councils have already taken the draconian stand of banning dogs from their public places. At the end of the day the owners only have themselves to blame if this happens.
I think that dog walkers who cannot demonstrate the means to clear up after their animals when out and about should be given spot fines. The excuse that they haven't got a bag just doesn't wear.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
And in the past it has been some well known members of the town who can well afford silver plated bags if neccessary!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 03, 2011, 04:16:46 PM
We walked from Deganwy to Conwy and back yesterday, the footpaths were utterly disgusting with dog fouling. It really was a case of dodging the turds. It really is disgraceful as well as offensive, not to mention illegal.

And before any comes up with us being anti-dog, we are dog owners, but hopefully responsible ones.

Birch the owner, don't blame the dog.  

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2011, 04:48:00 PM
I walked along the coastal path from Conwy to Llandudno yesterday afternoon as well, some sections of it were covered in dog mess, it was every couple of feet. It's obviously not just the odd errant dog owner responsible, it is more widespread than that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 03, 2011, 05:34:13 PM
Irresponsible dog owners even leave piles of it on the Pier!
In full view of children and onlookers.
It is also all along Happy Valley Road outside the Grand Hotel.
It makes me sick.

I don't like dogs actually.... but I also don't blame them for all this either.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 03, 2011, 05:35:19 PM
I totally agree, even the footpath on the bridge was awful. Whilst I am not advocating confrontation, the only way to deal with this is not dog wardens (they are never about when required) or CCTV, (culprits maybe seen but cannot be traced) it's reasonable people politely pointing out to errant dog walkers the error of thier ways.

I, for one, will be carrying a pocket camera with me on my walks in future, as a last resort, to photograph both offenders and fouling.  I am fed up taking our visitors and guests, not to mention our 6 year old Goddaughter,  for walks up to our knees in dog doggy doos.
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Post by: Blongb on January 03, 2011, 05:38:48 PM
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Am I alone in thinking that the streets and public areas of LLanduno are getting worse ?

The North Shore gets like that every Winter Dave and the situation will only improve when or if the Blue Flag regulations ban dogs from the Beach for the season. Then their wonderfully trained owners will take them off to defecate somewhere else without clearing up behind their pets.

We also have to put up with the official Blind Dog toilet which is located the prom side of the North Parade zebra crossing. Wonderful idea of the Council to offer the Blind Visitors staying in the Belmont Hotel a place where they can take their dogs to do there business, but unfortunately no one has made any provision to clean up behind them. Several times this last summer I had to warn families with young children not to sit and picnic there because of the risk of Blindness http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3116684 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3116684)  

Don’t hold your breath for a quick solution as there is only one Dog Warden to patrol the whole of Conwy County
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 03, 2011, 06:21:05 PM
it's in Penrhyn Bay too, along the paths to Angel Bay, up the Little Orme, along the prom to Rhos on Sea, it's one of my pet hates and there are signs warning of a £1000 fine, about time it was enforced, money to be made there! I've said for some time that they should bring back dog licences, I'm not a dog lover at all and I know most owners are good etc but enough is enough even friends with dogs are unhappy about it  :rage:
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2011, 06:49:51 PM
The main problem is that owners take their dogs out to have a crap.  A well trained dog can be taught to defacate in their own garden where it is easy to clean up and of no problem to other people.

For some reason most owners do not make any attempt to train their dogs, for behaviour, socialising with other animals or hygeine.   Such training is not difficult, after all, us humans tend to have regular habits with regard to our own requirements to empty our systems!   We were subject to training, dogs should also be trained.

There is some good training information on the Internet such as:

http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/puppy-house-training.html (http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/puppy-house-training.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 01:32:56 PM
I have to admit to being at a loss to understand why anyone would consider that the reintroduction of dog licences would do anything to stop dog fouling. There is already a £1,000 fine for fouling that is not enforced, so who would enforce new dog licences? The one, singular, Conwy Dog Warden?

Legislation does not work in anti-social matters, there is no-one to enforce it.

The only hope is peer-pressure and making it perfectly clear that dog fouling, like drink-driving, litter and bullying is totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2011, 01:51:01 PM
Yorkie said:-
For some reason most owners do not make any attempt to train their dogs, for behaviour, socialising with other animals or hygeine.   Such training is not difficult, after all, us humans tend to have regular habits with regard to our own requirements to empty our systems!   We were subject to training, dogs should also be trained.

Not always possible Yorkie, how many of us have gone out of the house and then had to go to the loo in town?     Same applies to dogs too but there is no excuse for anyone not picking up after their dogs have fouled.   It is not acceptable and if anyone sees a dog crapping they should approach the owner and ask him to pick it up.
If they are worried about confrontation then take a photo as Richard has suggested and send the photo of the person and/or car to the Dog Warden. Don't forget that you are paying the Dog Warden's wages and they need to know what and where the problem is.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 04, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
Sorry, I should have added that sometimes we all get "caught short" or have the occasional "accident" and animals are no different. >>>

I am of the old school that believes in prevention rather than cure!      :D
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 04, 2011, 02:28:10 PM
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I have to admit to being at a loss to understand why anyone would consider that the reintroduction of dog licences would do anything to stop dog fouling. There is already a £1,000 fine for fouling that is not enforced, so who would enforce new dog licences? The one, singular, Conwy Dog Warden?

Legislation does not work in anti-social matters, there is no-one to enforce it.

The only hope is peer-pressure and making it perfectly clear that dog fouling, like drink-driving, litter and bullying is totally unacceptable.

the money from the dog licence could pay for a warden to enforce the law and then you would also get some fine revenue too  D)  something needs to be done quickly !  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 04:42:28 PM
Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum, the suggestion of the reintroduction of a 37 pence licence that was scrapped in 1987 will solve this problem is fantasy.

I remember all the arguments of the time, including the suggestion of rasing the cost of the licence, but only responsible dog owners had licences anyway.

We have the legislation in place already with the sancton to impose a £1,000 fine that could be used to raise revenue, if that cannot be enforced, further legislation will not work.

You can legislate against anything you can think of, but if it cannot be enforced, it's a waste of time and counter productive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2011, 04:58:17 PM
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Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum
Please feel free to disagree with anyone you like. All opinions are equally valid.
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Post by: Fester on January 04, 2011, 05:34:07 PM
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Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum
Please feel free to disagree with anyone you like. All opinions are equally valid.

In that case...here goes.
There are too many dogs (my opinion) and a walk from Church Walks to The Pier today along Happy Valley Road re-affirmed my belief that the license fee should be £2500. (for any new dogs)  So as not to penalise current owners on limited income.
The fine for fouling the pavements should be £2500 (not a maximum, just a flat rate)
The revenue from all these payments to finance a dog patrol service, one that prowls around towns, just like traffic wardens do, WAITING for dogs to foul, and checking that owners are licensed.

Simples!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 06:23:52 PM
Fester,

Your lucid simplicy and transparancy of vision is a lesson to us all to enable a practical and sensible solution to a problem of only minor irriation.

As you infer, we are taking this issue all too seriously.

The fact that it blights our community, affects local the local economy, spoils our enjoyment of our open areas and potentially blinds children is of course, of negligable consequence.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 04, 2011, 06:26:49 PM
yes please do disagree, otherwise there's no discussion :)
and I'd have the licence fee a lot higher than 37p  I was thinking that if the £1000 fine was enforced once then it would be one hell of a deterrent and no one else would get caught so no wages for the warden!  I'd set the licence fee at around £50 per year, lower for oaps  I normally hate legislation and rules and fines but nothing else seems to work not even the recent story of the young girl blinded in one eye  :rage:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/108348/toddler_blinded_by_dog_poop (http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/108348/toddler_blinded_by_dog_poop)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2011, 06:40:32 PM
Richard, as a dog owner I am 100 per cent behind everything you have said and I would think that every one else is too.
There is little we can do about legislation etc to prevent this type of thing happening but we do have a Dog Warden in the area.   Have you tried contacting the Dog Warden and if so what has he said?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 07:26:28 PM
Hugo, thanks for your support.

I understand that the Bank Holidays have streched CCBC's re-opening until tommorrow when I intend to try and contact someone at the Council. I shall also bring this to the attention of Jason Weyman and Mike Priestly; I have to say that they are very good at taking up issues of local concern.

I shall keep this forum updated of developments, this is a serious and rather horrible issue that needs practical attention.

I will also enquire as to t.he current situation regarding the pedestrian crossing of the railway at Deganwy.

Regards

Richard
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on January 04, 2011, 08:15:48 PM
Richard et al,

I have only just picked up on this thread about the Dog Fouling.
The £1000 fine is enforced and several people have been caught, but they don't receive the greatest of press coverage.
The issue is the chances of the limited resources catching someone at it in the right location at the exact right moment. Resource is an issue (I understand there has been a long term illness issue).
The Police (inc PCSO) also have the capability to issue fines.
I have suggested a name and shame place on the internet to try and help deter others. The situation does seem to be getting worse. I will speak with Cllr Mike.
We have just gone through a Service Prioritisation process to rate all the services we run. I would suggest that the Dog Warden will actually have come up high on the list.
It is not a insignifcant problem and something we have failed to come up with a solution.

As for the footpath across the railway in Deganwy, again this is something that me and Mike are working on. We have done a lot of background work and engaged the time of Council officers. Unfortuately we have no legal case to prevent Network Rail closing. The footpath has never been defined and because it is over a railway it can not be protected even if we can prove it has been used for 100+ years (which we can).

Some individuals may have the option to legal challange based on clauses in their deeds which allows access to the forshore. Network Rail are not the easiest people to work with and we are waiting for them to come back to us.

In the meantime, Network Rail are discussing another piece of land in Deganwy to construct a CCTV camera. I have asked the officers to link this request to giving us a "Permissive Path Order" over the railtrack at Pentywyn Rd. Network Rail have come back to try and disconnect the 2 discussions. I have "advised" our officer to respond and instruct them that we are not preprared to do so. I won't say much more on this, as I wouldn't want to jeopardise proceedings. But this is something that we are keeping a close eye on.

Should we need the "power of the people", we are ready to push the button and get the support of many people behind us. Network Rail are aware of this, so I'm hoping we can acheive something through negotiation first.
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Post by: wrex on January 04, 2011, 08:20:13 PM
 :) Jason while we are talking about railways ,do you know when the Llandudno railway project is going to start. :weeping:
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Post by: JasonW on January 04, 2011, 09:15:38 PM
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:) Jason while we are talking about railways ,do you know when the Llandudno railway project is going to start. :weeping:

wrex, I still belive this is on target for starting in early spring. I will ask some questions tomorrow to see if I can get some better dates. Cllr Philip Evans will know the latest.

I posted this info a while back:
"The situation is very complicated and Conwy CBC will act as a lead partner to apply for the grants required to do the work. There are 3 funding streams required to bring the plan together National Station Improvement Scheme (NSIP), Taith and WEFO.

The NSIP is a scheme provided by WAG following European Convergence funding. To apply for such funding Network Rail must first have performed a tender process for the a Design and Build contract.

WEFO is the Welsh European Funding Office.

“Taith” is a joint board of the six county authorities in North Wales working together to deliver substantial and significant improvements to public transport across the region. Taith have agreed last week that Llandudno Station would have first call on grants available next year. We now have to see if this is enough assurance for Network Rail to proceed with the tender process.

Network Rail have completed the Initial Design stage and should be ready to go out to tender for the Design and Build contract. Assuming all agreed in principle funding comes through then works would be due to start in Spring 2011.

The scheme involves improved passanger facilities, including an enclosed waiting area where the vehicular entrance is currently and a bus stop outside. Car parking will be provided where the disused platforms now are. Cars and Taxis will enter the site where the old building recently demolished was."


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Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2011, 09:18:59 PM
If only we had a few more councillors like yourself, Jason, willing to come on the Forum and update us about various local issues.  &well&
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Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 09:38:48 PM
DaveR,

Wholly agree. I have a rather sad view of politicians in general, but Jason has my catagorical support in his bid to be an AM., I will just be sad to lose him as a local councillor.

It's rather a shame that other local councillors don't emulate him.

R.

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Post by: JasonW on January 04, 2011, 10:08:13 PM
Thanks Dave and Richard,

The strange/annoying thing is I'm not doing anything difficult.
Where I can help I will, where I can't I will say, but will try and find someone else who can.

Christmas is always a time for reflection for me. My decision to stand for the Assembly has taken some of that reflection time over the last week. Should I stay and make a difference in Conwy, or try to make a difference with more strategic issues at Assembly level. It is a difficult one, but I'm sure the electorate of Aberconwy will answer the question for me.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 04, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Jason, fantastic to see your help, perhaps if the £1000 prosecutions were well publicised it might help solve the dog problem
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Post by: Fester on January 05, 2011, 12:05:55 AM
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Fester,

Your lucid simplicy and transparancy of vision is a lesson to us all to enable a practical and sensible solution to a problem of only minor irriation.

As you infer, we are taking this issue all too seriously.

The fact that it blights our community, affects local the local economy, spoils our enjoyment of our open areas and potentially blinds children is of course, of negligable consequence.

Richard, I fail to see how, in my posting I led you to believe I wasn't being serious.
Trust me, I was being deadly serious.
Take it from one who has trod in the damn stuff recently.... and had numerous customers walk it into my shop.
The figures I quoted are precisely whats required to deal with the issue.
There ARE too many dogs.
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Post by: Ian on January 05, 2011, 08:38:09 AM
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Not always possible Yorkie, how many of us have gone out of the house and then had to go to the loo in town?     Same applies to dogs too

I'm not sure it's quite the same for dogs. There are three differences:  dogs tend to be fed the same food and same amounts of food on a daily basis, a practice which is recommended by Vets and hence which tends to make their systems predictably reliable. Secondly, dogs can indeed be trained to defecate on command.  We accomplished that with each of our dogs over many years.  Only sickness or deterioration in old age seems to change that. Thirdly, Canine and Human metabolism is fundamentally quite different; you can only draw a really meaningful comparison between us and pigs, oddly.  Or perhaps not  WWW
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Post by: Ian on January 05, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
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Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum,

We don't have 'senior' members Richard;  only folk who post a lot  :)  And debate is what we're about, so jump on in :-)
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Post by: Ian on January 05, 2011, 08:42:28 AM
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There ARE too many dogs.

There are. And too many clueless owners.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 05, 2011, 08:47:06 AM
and again this Christmas more stories about unwanted puppies, why can people not see that taking on a dog is a massive and expensive responsibility not to be undertaken lightly, bring on the dog licences!
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Post by: Pendragon on January 05, 2011, 09:02:27 AM
I might be wrong here but I remember there only being a hand full of traffic wardens in the area, until the council realised the revenue that could be collected and now they're everywhere. Maybe they should employ more dog wardens with the sole purpose of catching these lazy dog owners. I hate to see dog mess it's disgusting and dangerous. I wouldn't hesitate in telling anyone to clear up after their dog. There's no point in reporting the owners with no evidence. Get these dog wardens to go covert, pretend they are walking their dogs along the paths etc where the majority of offenders are taking their dogs. Think of the revenue. I think a £1000 fine is too much. £250 is a much more attainable amount to actually pay therefore creating more revenue. A dog licence costing £50 is a good idea but I fail to see how this would deter rogue owners. Dog wardens on commission thats the answer me thinks.
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Post by: Pendragon on January 05, 2011, 11:37:01 AM
Matelots in Llandudno has closed until further notice. The owner may employ another Manager but in the present finantial times and the 20% vat it has become increasingly hard to make the business viable. I met some fantastic people who I do not want to lose contact with and enjoyed the job however it is now time to move on and try something completely different maybe.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 05, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
Sorry to hear that A. Hope you find something.
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Post by: Pendragon on January 05, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
Yes so do I but it's the wrong time of year really. These things happen for a reason though I find. Next chapter coming up lol. Thanks Nemises.  :-*
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Post by: DaveR on January 05, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
Sorry to hear this, Angie, not the best start to the New Year for you. Hope you get things sorted out soon.  :(
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Post by: wrex on January 05, 2011, 08:08:15 PM
Many thanks Jason,i have been trying to get any information for months and not one councillor bothered to get back to me,yet a Deganwy councillor comes up trumps,once again thanks.
I see the Cross Keys has new management again and the old Burger King store has lost its sold sign,thats a shame.
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Post by: Paddy on January 06, 2011, 08:26:48 PM
Just read on "Oscar" that the bin-men have caught up.

Had a visit from the bin-men today. It's the first time they've been for four weeks and they took half the rubbish. I've been storing foodscraps in my freezer for a fortnight because I didn't want them to rot outside. I put them out on my way to wotk this morning and they're still there. Should I bring them in and put them back in the freezer?
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Post by: Nemesis on January 06, 2011, 10:13:44 PM
Depends if you have any local tom cats investigating your rubbish and leaving their usual trade mark!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 07, 2011, 08:54:53 AM
It is snowing again.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 07, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
It's also snowing again in Penrhyn Bay!  Get the sled out!     $uk
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Post by: Nemesis on January 07, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
Got the Wellies airing again
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Post by: DaveR on January 07, 2011, 09:41:51 AM
It's not going to last, will have turned to rain by lunchtime, I reckon.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 07, 2011, 09:43:43 AM
Hope all is clear for Sunday-- Family invasion !
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Post by: wrex on January 09, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
 :) Just been looking at the Victorian Extravaganza on google and noticed there are two special trains coming into town for the weekend,the first is a steam loco on the Saturday run by Vintage trains and the other is a diesel hauled train from Sheffield run by Statesman rail. How refreshing it is to know that this event still manages too pull in such interest,love it or loathe it where else would you see such steam traction engines and victorian funfair on the streets. ps the modern funfair pays for the whole event. :twoface:
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Post by: DaveR on January 09, 2011, 08:00:34 PM
I noticed whilst walking on the Orme this morning that the much vaunted new cattle grid at the top of Happy Valley has a bit of a flaw - the pedestrian gate at the side has a gap at the bottom large enough for smaller sheep to easily push themselves through!
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Post by: ormegolf on January 09, 2011, 08:28:36 PM
OOOOhhh dear. I was having a nice day before I read this. No futher comment
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Post by: Blongb on January 09, 2011, 09:55:58 PM
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ps the modern funfair pays for the whole event.

Live and let live Wrex, just as long as the Extravaganza continues
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Post by: Fester on January 09, 2011, 11:55:36 PM
I forgot to mention yesterday and today....The Sheep are everwhere again.

About 40 of them with blue dye branding on them wondering around Llywynon Road on Saturday,  and today (sunday) they are peppered all around the lower slopes of The Orme.

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Post by: Ian on January 10, 2011, 08:06:33 AM
They certainly were on Thursday.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 10, 2011, 08:57:34 AM
There have been alot on the road past St Tudnos and near there on the Marine Drive.
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Post by: ormegolf on January 10, 2011, 12:35:08 PM
So it appears they are on the "wrong" side of this gate. Just as well there is a gap at the bottom---perhaps one or two might find their way under whilst trying to go uphill.
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Post by: TheMedz on January 10, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
A whole flock of them wandering around on the lower part of the Orme around Black Gate currently. Same yesterday but they were chased up the hill by a dog that the owner had kindly let off the lead (See other posts re Dog mess for the possible reason for the owner doing that)
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Post by: wrex on January 10, 2011, 06:40:05 PM
 :DWatching Michael Portillo in Llandudno on his train journeys BBC 2
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Post by: JasonW on January 10, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
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Many thanks Jason,i have been trying to get any information for months and not one councillor bothered to get back to me,yet a Deganwy councillor comes up trumps,once again thanks.
I see the Cross Keys has new management again and the old Burger King store has lost its sold sign,thats a shame.
wrex,
I received an update this morning on the progress.
"Network Rail and the Council's European Funding team are currently working on a bid for ERDF funding. When this is approved Network Rail will be in a position to award a contract. It is still proposed to start work on site in the 2011-12 financila year and complete the following year."

This doesn't sound as promising as the news we had from last September which was more specific of a contract award in the Spring.

See the Local Eyesore thread which gives details of a consultation event at Venue Cymru.
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Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
This is one of two shelters in Haulfre Gardens, Llandudno. The other shelter is even worse - boarded up, unusable and the roof is disintegrating.  When CCBC received a large Lottery grant back in 1999 to renovate the parks, it was on the understanding that they would be appropriately maintained afterwards. What on earth must our visitors think when they see things like this?
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Post by: Yorkie on January 10, 2011, 08:48:46 PM
Problem is that if you rebuild the wall one day it will be knocked down the next.   How much can CCBC realistically spend on continued maintenance in such circumstances?  After all it is the ratepayer who meets the cost in the end.     :rage: 
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Post by: Pendragon on January 10, 2011, 08:53:15 PM
Why not ask the Community Payback Scheme to include this on their list and others like them.
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Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2011, 09:20:11 PM
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Problem is that if you rebuild the wall one day it will be knocked down the next.   How much can CCBC realistically spend on continued maintenance in such circumstances?  After all it is the ratepayer who meets the cost in the end.     :rage: 
CCBC haven't spent one penny on it since it was renovated using Lottery Money in 2000! That's the problem - it's down to neglect more than vandalism.

Community Payback would be a good idea for something like this, it's a fairly simple task.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 11, 2011, 02:08:56 PM
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/01/11/record-passengers-on-great-orme-tram-despite-collision-55578-27963333/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/01/11/record-passengers-on-great-orme-tram-despite-collision-55578-27963333/) *&(
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Post by: Yorkie on January 11, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
QUOTE:  Cllr Billy Evans, of Llandudno Town Council, is thrilled with the tramway’s popularity. He said: “It’s fantastic news. All we need is the weather and people would have no need to go abroad with the attractions we’ve got.”    L0L
UNQUOTE

Well, I suppose, we have the Pier, The Tram, The Cable Car and , and ....... er,  and ...... er, er......  and we have the Pier, The Tram, The Cable Car and er .....!   
Who does he think he's kidding? 
Of course, if it should rain one can always go on the .....er.......er......!      _))*

Got to go a long way to stop folk going abroad, Billy!      ¢¢##
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Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2011, 05:16:58 PM
"Conwy County Borough Council has a good record on health and safety.”
That's not what the Accident Investigation Report said!
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Post by: ormegolf on January 11, 2011, 05:24:23 PM
OOOhhh, Yorkie ---- the passengers on the cablecar and the tram can see at least three good tourist attractions, and two of them are heaving with customers on a nice day. The third one isent actually heaving, maybe an erratic trickle,  but----give me time!!! Mike
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Post by: Hugo on January 11, 2011, 05:35:45 PM
Very well putt Mike

 :golf:
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Post by: Yorkie on January 11, 2011, 06:40:48 PM
Hole in one there Mike - really stymied yours truly!    ))*
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Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2011, 06:10:20 PM
I see Frank Gorka is still valiantly struggling to push forward his plans to renovate the West Shore Tram Shelter, after FIVE YEARS to trying. Full credit to Frank, I spoke to him today and he just keeps on plugging away at it, won't take no for an answer. We could do with more people like him in the town.

Plans for West Shore tram shelter at stalemate
Jan 13 2011 by Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News

NEARLY five years after they were first proposed, plans to convert a derelict Victorian tram shelter into a tourist attraction have made little progress.

Businessman Frank Gorka wants to restore the Grade II listed building at Llandudno’s West Shore and convert it into a small cafe and tourist information centre.

But legal wrangles over the tenancy and a slow moving planning process mean he has become frustrated.

Llandudno Town Council has now decided to take the initiative to try to get the project moving.

Cllr Billy Evans said he and other councillors had recently met with county council officials and hoped they had come up with a solution.

“Having had discussions with Mr Gorka it’s obvious he’s not very happy with the delays. It will be five years next May since he first said he’d be interested in renovating the tram shelter.

“He has employed an architect to draw up plans and submitted an application for change of use, all of which has involved considerable cost and he’s upset at the way he’s been treated by the county council,” claimed Cllr Evans.

He said Mr Gorka felt the county council had made unreasonable demands but was still willing to proceed with the project if a lease could be agreed and permission granted.

Cllr Margaret Lyon sympathised with Mr Gorka.

“This has been going round and round in circles. I admire Mr Gorka for persevering for so long as he has been given the run around by the county council,” she said.

Cllr Terry Davies said the county council was now suggesting that the town council retain the lease of the building and sub-let it to Mr Gorka.

“This is how we should proceed. Mr Gorka has spent thousands on this project and will have to spend a good deal more so he should have it rent free for at least the first ten years,” he said.
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Post by: Fester on January 13, 2011, 06:25:50 PM
Dealing with the Council (any council) is notorously cumbersome and frustrating.

Perhaps Mr Gorka should re-direct his investment and noble efforts towards one of the town's private enterprises?
They would be more eager to accomodate him, and perhaps a privately owned eyesore would be improved very quickly, into an attractive and profitable business?



 
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Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2011, 06:37:44 PM
What could you be thinking of?  ?{}?
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Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2011, 06:41:02 PM
Mr Gorka should put up with his frustration, after all it is not the first time he has had dealings with the Town or County Councils.   He has made a concious effort to get his ideas into fruition and that has been a personal and commercial decision on his part.  Why he should receive any form of compensation either in kind or otherwise is a non starter.

There was enough of Mr Gorka's rumblings when he took over the Rest and be Thankful.  "Thankful" he obviously was not, as he then spent the next few years pushing his development plans to almost make the Cafe into a residential property.

Leave the Tram Shelter as a permanent reminder of our past heritage and put your money into one of the empty shops in the Town, Mr Gorka.

As for Councillor Terry Davies's suggestion of 10 years free rent - he must be living in cloud cuckoo land as usual!
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Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2011, 06:50:36 PM
There is, actually, a precedent already set in the area of a rent free period in return for renovation work. CCBC has recently granted the lease on the old refreshment kiosk on Deganwy prom to someone who will renovate in return for several years free rent. Being as Mr Gorka's renovation costs will be substantially higher, a 10 year rent free period would not seem unfair.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2011, 07:26:47 PM
Point.  Mr G wants the building for a Commercial venture.
He is aware of the present structure and condition and what will need doing to make it suitable for his purpose.
I presume that he has worked out the viability of the venture and what period over which he will need to amortise his initial investment.
Consequently I can only see it as a typical commercial risk that he must take on his own shoulders.

Otherwise, the opporunity of taking a lease on the premises should be put out to tender and all interested parties invited to participate.  With 10 years free I might even be prepared to put in a bid myself!
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Post by: wrex on January 13, 2011, 08:02:16 PM
 :D  Dave i will keep trying for xmas illuminations this town deserves. ))*
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Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2011, 08:04:53 PM
And I'm with you all the way Wrex!      $uk
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Post by: Blongb on January 13, 2011, 09:44:10 PM
What a lot of English residents who have moved into North Wales fail to understand is, it's not the Welsh way to say NO to any proportion: no matter how reasonable, relevant, far fetched or ridiculous, it might be.

No they’ll form a committee to discus the matter in depth and then when any problem arises, they will form a sub committee which in the fullness of time will report back to the main committee.

The main committee will discuss the sub committees report and ask for clarification on this and that, then refer it back to them to discuss it further.

Its even been known for the sub committee to refer the matter to Outside Consultants, which will take at the very minimum a year to report back and cost you and me  (the rate payers) an arm and a leg.

Of course all of this takes time, years in fact when they don’t have to make a final decision  because its still being discussed in committee and because of the Local Government Act 1972 Section 100A Schedule 12A you can't even use the Freedom of Information Act to find out what they were discussing in the first place.

I had a lovely example of this when my Ward Councillor didn't bother to turn up to the sub committees meeting and the Press and Public were excluded and I quote “as they involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in the Act”.
 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>

I'm going on holiday on Saturday for a couple of weeks to ponder what should be done about it. Perhaps we should form a committee and discuss it when I get back.
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Post by: Fester on January 14, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
BlongB !!
It is not a wholly Welsh trait to be indecisive, or shroud and delay matters in endless trails of unnecessary administration.

I have worked for private English and French corporate businesses all my career.   75% of the staff in those businesses always seemed to have no other function than to frustrate progress and produce nothing.


 
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Post by: Yorkie on January 14, 2011, 07:50:31 AM
Like Fester I have also worked for foreign companies for many a year, including the French, Swedish, Germans and Japanese.    Despite their success I found that the worst were the Japanese who (in my day) would do nothing without having had a committee meeting! 

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Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2011, 05:46:11 PM
The massive banner on the front of Wetherspoons blew off earlier today. Still very rough in town.
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Post by: Pendragon on January 15, 2011, 05:59:43 PM
did it blow clean off the building  :o
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Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2011, 06:17:51 PM
I think it was hanging off. The Police arrived and I think contractors removed what was left of it.
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Post by: Pendragon on January 15, 2011, 07:30:30 PM
could have been some major Public Liability claims for that one. its huge  :o
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Post by: Yorkie on January 15, 2011, 07:37:24 PM
Obviously very little risk assessment.  'elf an' safety out of the window!      ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2011, 09:44:46 PM
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:DWatching Michael Portillo in Llandudno on his train journeys BBC 2

The programme can be watched on BBC iplayer here:
BBC iPlayer - Great British Railway Journeys: Series 2: Chester to Conwy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00xhxys/)


The aerial shot of Llandudno Station was completely embarrassing....
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Post by: TheMedz on January 16, 2011, 07:30:14 AM
I must admit the aerial shot didn't stick out for me in the programme. I think Llandudno came out of the programme really positively, as did the Conwy Valley and the whole of the other areas covered in the last three programmes, apart from maybe Blaenau's lack of greenery. I think any potential tourists would look at the programme and think it would be a good place to visit.
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Post by: suepp on January 16, 2011, 01:20:31 PM
it made me want to visit and do the train trips!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 17, 2011, 09:35:49 AM
lots of Minis on the prom yesterday

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1193.jpg)

this was my favourite, a very nice Riley Elf

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1192.jpg)
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Post by: Hugo on January 17, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
That Riley Elf was a nice looking motor but by the time I arrived most of the cars had gone.  There was a nice looking one that caught my attention and it was a limited number export to South Africa,  I had my camera with me but I didn't take any photos of the cars for some reason!
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Post by: Paddy on January 17, 2011, 05:24:53 PM
No cycling on the Pormenade!
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Post by: Trojan on January 17, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
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No cycling on the Pormenade!

Shame about that.

I was thinking of doing the Santa Monica to Llandudno run.

http://www.cyclingnorthwales.co.uk/pages/santa_mon.htm (http://www.cyclingnorthwales.co.uk/pages/santa_mon.htm)
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Post by: Nemesis on January 17, 2011, 06:36:38 PM
How did I miss you people?--See my pics on What's on in Llandudno.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 17, 2011, 07:00:52 PM
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How did I miss you people?--See my pics on What's on in Llandudno.

Just seen your pics, very good, until you mentioned it I'd not seen it in 'What's on'
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Post by: Nemesis on January 18, 2011, 10:28:08 AM
,Twas a good turn up--- they have now supposedly limited the entry to 200 cars. A few years ago we were actually taking part and when all the cars were in the summit car park on the Orme no one could move they were so tightly jammed !
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Post by: Trojan on January 20, 2011, 01:07:23 AM
Did you wear your Mini skirt Nemesis?
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Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2011, 08:57:54 AM
No Trojan I left it in the wardrobe, It was a bit nippy for a Mini ! _))* Not now having a Mini I thought that it wasn't essential !
Don't think there is anything special to ride in what my OH has now got ! Don't think they still make V8 Vegetable Juice !
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Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 09:32:13 PM
Llandudno Library will be reopening next Tuesday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 23, 2011, 06:09:13 PM
Anyone got any ideas why the Police Helicopter was doing low level circling round the Orme for about 30 minutes this evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2011, 06:30:17 PM
Not sure what the problem was (or is?) ... but the helicpter was supported by a van full of police officers and a patrol car too.
The vehicles were going between The Grand and the Happy Valley cafe area... and back.

The seabirds of all kinds were frightened by the helicopter and were swarming around squawking in the sky.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 23, 2011, 06:41:27 PM
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Not sure what the problem was (or is?) ... but the helicpter was supported by a van full of police officers and a patrol car too.
The vehicles were going between The Grand and the Happy Valley cafe area... and back.

The seabirds of all kinds were frightened by the helicopter and were swarming around squawking in the sky.



The helicopter came over me in Penrhyn Bay at around 3.45 pm my pigeons noticed it first and flew off, they can hear lower frequency sound than people!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 23, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
i thought i'd used google to see if anybody had reported anything re the helicopter. No matches on the helicopter but this came up near the top of the  first page of the search. Apparently the Great orme is number 3 in the UK hit parade for alien abductions.http://kevinbraddock.com/media/Abducted.pdf (http://kevinbraddock.com/media/Abducted.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2011, 07:56:56 PM
I noticed today that the Whoops shop in St Georges Place was empty - have they closed or just being decorated maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on January 25, 2011, 05:39:44 PM
That big double fronted shop on Madoc Street that was formerly an estate agents (Was it Reeds Rains?) is now the new offices for Cartrefi Conwy.
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Post by: DaveR on January 25, 2011, 05:57:37 PM
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That big double fronted shop on Madoc Street that was formerly an estate agents (Was it Reeds Rains?) is now the new offices for Cartrefi Conwy.
It was Reeds Rains (formerly Ball & Boyd for years). Good to see such a large vacant shop occupied.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 25, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
Managed to find time to pop into Llandudno Library for a nose today. Have to say it is looking very smart, a credit to the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 27, 2011, 09:32:41 PM
 :(  Walking the dog again tonight through town and there is NOTHING to do,no reason for anyone to come into the town center.Okay,drink,eat and bet,i think the libary was open but that was it.I noticed Oscar praiseing Parc llandudno ,that's fine at least you can go for a coffee but the town center dead.I know we cannot force a cinema into town and it would not b e viable with the Junction being there so i have no idea how Llandudno town center can ever attract people back after six without drink being involved. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 27, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
January and February are pretty dismal months in Llandudno Wrex...

But....today, I have had a couple of pints,  stuffed my face,  and won a few bob in the bookies..... beats walking the dog if you ask me!   L0L L0L
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Post by: suepp on January 27, 2011, 09:46:59 PM
It was the same in Rhyl last Thursday very quiet, few people about, no events at all. Managed to find a cafe open  at 6pm rather than a pub - it closed at 6.30, but I did find out that they now have a street market there every Thursday and Saturday and the cafe had been quite busy during the day (on the street where Wilkinsons is)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 27, 2011, 09:50:31 PM
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January and February are pretty dismal months in Llandudno Wrex...
I like being able to walk across Mostyn Street at this time of year almost without having to look if there's any cars coming because its so quiet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 27, 2011, 09:54:07 PM
Hey Dave-- watch out for cyclists--one sailed out very quietly in front of my car this morning--completely oblivious of anything. Pity I had a large tray of eggs on the front seat. Omelettes anyone? _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 27, 2011, 10:36:30 PM
we were in Mostyn Street this afternoon and I thought how quiet it was, also saw several empty shops and had a quick look at the fishy foot nibbling shop, I wasn't surprised to see no customers, I can't see it lasting long somehow.  Then we looked in WH Smiths at the magazines, I've not bought one for ages but was shocked to see the average price is around £4 :o So many similar magazines covering the same subjects, I can't see them all lasting this recession  ¢¢##                                                                 
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Post by: Fester on January 27, 2011, 10:44:53 PM
Recession Merddin?  We've had that.... it came after the Credit Crunch.... and the banks bale out.

Now we are sliding into something much worse..... Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 27, 2011, 10:50:31 PM
well yes, as you know I have another phrase that covers those fancy names, 'we're in the s*** '  ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 28, 2011, 01:32:35 PM
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 28, 2011, 02:08:50 PM
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exactly !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 03, 2011, 10:49:17 PM
A little riddle. (with feeling) When is a roadside Grit Bin dangerous? Answer. When the council can't be bothered to fill it or remove it, the wind gets up and it keeps blowing into the middle of oncoming traffic. Pathetic!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2011, 12:33:00 AM
Its WILD in the old town tonight...

Mrs Fester and I left The Cross Keys and The Asia at around 11.30. and I took the following 2 pictures.
They are from my phone, and the weather was atrocious.
1st Picture shows the tall hexagonal wooden advertisement hoarding on the Prom ripped from its base, and rolling around.
You can clearly see the base it has become detached from...

2nd picture is the lit signage from the Cumberland Hotel totally destroyed tonight.

I apologise for the quality...

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Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2011, 12:46:20 AM
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Its WILD in the old town tonight...

1st Picture shows the tall hexagonal wooden advertisement hoarding on the Prom ripped from its base, and rolling around.
You can clearly see the base it has become detached from...

It's quite normal for that sign to be blown over Fester. In any sort of a blow you'll find it rolling around the prom. Its happened at least 3 times before just in the time I've lived on North Parade. I hope the Council has the budget to get it repaired, otherwise we'll never know what’s on at Venue Cymru
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2011, 12:51:35 AM
Well it needs totally replacing, as the wood is rotten though and through.
It was breaking apart in my hand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on February 04, 2011, 11:43:49 AM
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Its WILD in the old town tonight...

1st Picture shows the tall hexagonal wooden advertisement hoarding on the Prom ripped from its base, and rolling around.
You can clearly see the base it has become detached from...

It's quite normal for that sign to be blown over Fester. In any sort of a blow you'll find it rolling around the prom. Its happened at least 3 times before just in the time I've lived on North Parade. I hope the Council has the budget to get it repaired, otherwise we'll never know what’s on at Venue Cymru

Not sure that the council is responsible for that morris column.  The only advertisers on it are those that have attractions on the Great Orme (ie Copper Mine, Tramway and Summit Complex).  No other attractions are allowed to put posters on this one.  It is probably their responsibility to fix it and not the councils.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 12:15:27 PM
I think you might be right, Jack. The other ones around town have received some maintenance lately.

I notice that the potakabin toilets down at the coach park have finally been removed. Will anything replace them?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 01:06:28 PM
I'm hearing that parts of the Prom are closed at the moment due to dangerous scaffolding. The scaffolding around Wetherspoons was taking a real pounding last night, as well, don't think I would stand too close to it today!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
For once I agree with the weather-man. This is an A minus storm
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
Prom closed outside the Merrion hotel:
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Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 05:08:46 PM
The remains of the Morris Column get carted off:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 05:11:38 PM
It was very peaceful round by the Pier, the wind disappeared completely and the sea was pretty flat:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2011, 01:11:26 PM
Last night at about 10.30pm two fall pipes on the Arvon Avenue side of the Clarence were detatched at the top and were swaying and banging against the broken vent from the kitchens. Hope no-one was walking under there when they finally flew down. :o
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Post by: Ian on February 05, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Another level three flash warning (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html) for today and tonight from the met office. Beginning to wonder if I prefer snow :-))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on February 05, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
Plenty of water up the Conwy Valley around Llanrwst and Treffriw. Surprisingly Nant Conwy were playing a home game - could be on an island by the time they finish!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
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Last night at about 10.30pm two fall pipes on the Arvon Avenue side of the Clarence were detatched at the top and were swaying and banging against the broken vent from the kitchens. Hope no-one was walking under there when they finally flew down. :o
I thought I heard them clanking in the wind when I went past the other day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Have you heard the cross which is hanging down the side of Christ Church on a windy night? Now that is seriously wierd :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 06, 2011, 08:32:15 AM
We may not have suffered the extreme gusts of places like Scotland, but we're definitely getting knocked about, and yesterday Snowdonia had a whopping 108mm of water dumped on it. Because we're not London, of course, it didn't even feature as an 'and finally' item on the national news.

 High tide at 1230 today is also the highest of the month, so those wanting some decent pics of the Conwy valley flooding should try to make their way to Llanrwst for about 1100.  I'm guessing that the valley itself will be flooded but whether it will have overcome the recent flood drainage work to seep up into the town itself is unclear. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 09:22:50 AM
I'd come up and have a look but could well end up spending more time in Llanrwst than anticipated if both roads down the valley get closed....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 06, 2011, 09:27:52 AM
I'll be interested to see if either of the two roads have closed when we go down later this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 11:10:29 AM
The gales are crazy in town this morning, the simon baker shoe shop sign came crashing down whilst I was walking past.

I'm at West Shore now, you can barely stand up and the tide is massive. Could be flooding later if tide isnt in till half twelve.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 06, 2011, 11:32:51 AM
Just come off the Orme via West Shore-- quite breezy !!Managed to walk the pup, but had to all hang on to each other.
Also saw Simon Baker's sign, lucky it didn't hit someone.
Pipes at the Clarence at an even more perilous angle.Police and local councillor are aware, imagine something will be done as and when someone's car is damaged or worse.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 06, 2011, 12:23:37 PM
Llanwst is now isolated : A470 is flooded - there's a car up to its roof near Tal y Cafn - and the valley across is also cut off. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 06, 2011, 04:33:24 PM
Had to get out of the house, we were going stir crazy.
This weather is horrendous, so against most sensible advice we went to West Shore, (only minutes behind Dave R it seems,  then to Conwy where it was much more sheltered... then down to the beach where the art-deco house is close to the little Orme.   Could hardly stand there, and we got badly sand blasted.
A few pics from my phone camera.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on February 06, 2011, 04:37:11 PM
Looks like Mrs Fester is having a "bad hair day".  $happy$

I expect there wasn't many on the West Shore cycle path.  :cyclist40:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 04:43:18 PM
You missed me at West Shore by about 5 mins, mate.  ¢¢##

The Headlands Hotel sign has lost its N now:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 04:51:01 PM
The scaffolding around Wetherspoons is getting ever more torn and tattered. Is this work ever going to be finished - it's been going on for a year now and there never seems to be any progress on the front bit?
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Post by: Fester on February 06, 2011, 06:22:43 PM
The last update I saw was in the NWWN back in November.
At that stage it said it was a programme of works scheduled to end in April 2011.

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 06:37:14 PM
It's taking so long you'd think Wetherspoons had contracted the job out to CCBC....  :laugh:
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Post by: Trojan on February 06, 2011, 06:43:47 PM
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It's taking so long you'd think Wetherspoons had contracted the job out to CCBC....  :laugh:

I was just thinking along the same lines.  :D
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Post by: brumbob on February 06, 2011, 09:46:01 PM
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Had to get out of the house, we were going stir crazy.
Shouldn't you have been on the pier working?  $smack$

 :laugh:
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Post by: brumbob on February 06, 2011, 09:47:07 PM
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It's taking so long you'd think Wetherspoons had contracted the job out to CCBC....  :laugh:

I hope it's finished before I arrive  ^*^0
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Post by: Fester on February 06, 2011, 09:56:19 PM
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Had to get out of the house, we were going stir crazy.
Shouldn't you have been on the pier working?  $smack$

 :laugh:


Bob, when the Pier is open... I am on there.
However, you will find the Pier closed much more often these days... for various frustrating reasons.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 07, 2011, 08:50:49 AM
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Just come off the Orme via West Shore-- quite breezy !!Managed to walk the pup, but had to all hang on to each other.
Also saw Simon Baker's sign, lucky it didn't hit someone.
Pipes at the Clarence at an even more perilous angle.Police and local councillor are aware, imagine something will be done as and when someone's car is damaged or worse.

Barriers all round last night--- blown flat this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on February 08, 2011, 06:37:50 PM
Planning Application tomorrow:
Code Ref: 0/37261 - 1. Change of use of Retail Shop to Restaurant and Take-Away 2. External alterations (rear yard flue installation & works to frontage) 3. Use of area under canopy for the siting of table and chairs for dining 135 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno.

I visted the site today and it is on the agenda for tomorrow's Planning Committee.
I was just wondering what local views were of the application to change the use to a Fish & Chips/Pizza Restuarant and Shop.

I have my views, but would be interested in Forum members views before tomorrows meeting, as I know Upper Mostyn St is mentoined quite regularly on the Forum.

Full report can be found here: http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2011, 06:52:33 PM
The old Merediths Goth Shop. If done properly, and run properly, I don't think there will be a problem.

One question would be...the area under the canopy outside - would those tables/chairs be for the use of Restaurant customers only or for people buying Takeaway Fish & Chips also? I think it would be desirable to make it for Restaurant customers only, myself, so to avoid potential litter problems.

One other things I just thought of...the shop would look a lot better if the canopy had its glazing reinstated - much more in keeping with the other properties.
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Post by: brumbob on February 08, 2011, 07:02:45 PM
mmmm, a street full of eateries  Z**
It doesn't look like Mrs Lyons is happy though
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 08, 2011, 08:04:43 PM
Its time our Councillors faced reality. Upper Mostyn Street is one of the few areas of Llandudno that works. Yes there are a lot of eating and Drinking establishments there but that’s because there is a demand for them. I read through the list of objections on the planning website and if that is all they can come up with I can’t see it being refused. What's better a vibrant restaurant / takeaway business or an empty retail unit?  ZXZ
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Post by: JasonW on February 08, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
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Its time our Councillors faced reality. Upper Mostyn Street is one of the few areas of Llandudno that works. Yes there are a lot of eating and Drinking establishments there but that’s because there is a demand for them. I read through the list of objections on the planning website and if that is all they can come up with I can’t see it being refused. What's better a vibrant restaurant / takeaway business or an empty retail unit?  ZXZ

Thanks for the feedback so far.
I should have said that I am on the Planning Committee, and hence will be voting on the decision tomorrow.

The problem with Planning Applications is that we are usually presented with list of complaints but rarely see letters or views from those who support the applcation. Hence my attempt to get some views.

The site vist today raised some concerns amongst some councillors about the suitability of the building to convert.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on February 08, 2011, 09:38:17 PM
Just passed an accident on Conway Road. in the same spot as the other fatal accidents took place. there was an ambulance there but the car did`nt look too bad.
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Post by: brumbob on February 09, 2011, 07:32:13 AM
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there was an ambulance there but the car did`nt look too bad.
was the ambulance badly damaged?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2011, 10:27:39 AM
I see the idea of making Ball & Boyd into an Indoor Market has been revived again - a Planning application went in 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 09, 2011, 10:46:52 AM
It will be a disaster.

Last year I considered getting involved,  this year I've wised up!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on February 09, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
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Planning Application tomorrow:
Code Ref: 0/37261 - 1. Change of use of Retail Shop to Restaurant and Take-Away 2. External alterations (rear yard flue installation & works to frontage) 3. Use of area under canopy for the siting of table and chairs for dining 135 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno.

I visted the site today and it is on the agenda for tomorrow's Planning Committee.
I was just wondering what local views were of the application to change the use to a Fish & Chips/Pizza Restuarant and Shop.

I have my views, but would be interested in Forum members views before tomorrows meeting, as I know Upper Mostyn St is mentoined quite regularly on the Forum.

Full report can be found here: http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4)


Application Approved
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 09, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
We went for a walk to Angel Bay this afternoon and there must have been about 12 to 15 seals either on shore ,coming ashore or out in the water. The seals in the water included 4 seals who were obviously 2 pairs playing in the really mild sea. Must have been such a relief after the battering of the last few days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
typical, we live very near there and missed seeing them, most times that we visit Angel Bay we see no seals at all
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 11, 2011, 06:41:33 PM
Something going on by the Regency Royal Hotel in Craig Y Don. The Prom is closed and there are several fire engines and other emergency services vehicles there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 11, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
earlier on this afternoon the police helecoptor was circling over Penrhyn Bay and the Little Orme
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 11, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
It was over the top of Upper .Mostyn St and Gloddaeth as well
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Post by: Trojan on February 12, 2011, 12:46:21 AM
I believe it's back at HQ now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 12, 2011, 10:29:39 PM
The Tudno Castle Hotel is getting worse and worse now, bits falling off it all the time. What a disgrace:

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 12, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
The only way that Eyesore, and The Clarence will be resolved will be demolition......... sadly that is now BOUND to happen.   :( :( :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 13, 2011, 10:26:15 AM
Clarence is in the same state, bits dropping off everywhere and huge cracks getting bigger and bigger
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2011, 02:39:50 PM
The Annual 'Nick Beer' 10k Road Race took place today, with 750 runners taking part. It is now apparently in the Top 5 10km races in the UK:
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Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
he he, look at them all checking their watches
You certainly caught the magic of the moment in that first pic Dave
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Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2011, 03:13:12 PM
Cheers, mate. I thought this one featuring the Mayor could be used for one of Oscar's caption competitions....
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Post by: suepp on February 13, 2011, 03:17:57 PM
great pics! can't think of a witty caption  :o
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Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
Ann Yates about to get a wake-up call

no, nor me suepp, I'm rubbish at captions
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Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
on your marks, get set, Zzzzzzzz
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Post by: Bellringer on February 13, 2011, 04:24:53 PM
Ah, let me think now, how does this thing work??
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Post by: TheMedz on February 13, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
I can think of better places to break down in an RV.
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Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2011, 05:17:13 PM
Good thing the Trams aren't running!
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Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 05:56:05 PM
A ringside view TheMedz  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2011, 06:01:15 PM
Has he broken down or can he not cope with driving up the hill?

Quite often see vehicles stuck there because they can't manage the hill start.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 13, 2011, 06:09:04 PM
Paddy I think it's probably the latter. I'm not making any statements of any kind re the merits of male or female drivers here but he was a she, and she persuaded the policeman/recovery vehicle driver to drive the RV up to the top of Llwynon Road for her.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on February 13, 2011, 06:37:29 PM
I'm not making any statements of any kind re the merits of male or female drivers

Then why do I get the distinct impression you were then Matey  $smack$   :roll:

Pool tonight against the 147, c'mon you Matelots.........us Matelots I mean  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 13, 2011, 06:47:32 PM
 ;D Going back to the Mayor;s old hotel the Tudno Castle,if the owners wanted to really do something they would be applying to build a larger store incorperating a Travel lodge and then get the attention of Primark or TK Makk instead of just leaving until part of it falls on to some pedestrians walking past.NO real push to do anything in this town . :'(
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Post by: Bellringer on February 13, 2011, 08:50:56 PM
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;D Going back to the Mayor;s old hotel the Tudno Castle,

I'm a little confused here. Are you talking about Cllr Ann Yates having the Tudno Castle? I thought she had a hotel in Hill Terrace previously, and prior to David Owen having the Tudno Castle was it not in the ownership of the Devoys for some years?
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Post by: Nemesis on February 14, 2011, 09:31:12 AM
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Cheers, mate. I thought this one featuring the Mayor could be used for one of Oscar's caption competitions....

Does it really make that 'orrible noise?

Nice to see you again Dave.
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 14, 2011, 12:07:03 PM
I was upset yesterday on my weekly walk to the west shore to see that yet another house has been knocked down ready for a nasty, badly designed block of flats to be built.  What ever happened to vernacular architecture?  This town is riddled with god awful new buildings.  Any one know anyone in the planning department?  On the one hand you've got self-appointed Mr Llandudno, Lawson Rea wanting to protect all things Victorian (ugh) and these horrible things.  I think the Tudno Castle should bbe knocked down a nd a cinema built. :(
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Post by: Pendragon on February 14, 2011, 05:38:24 PM
Cheers, mate. I thought this one featuring the Mayor could be used for one of Oscar's caption competitions....

Aah Toto I've clicked my heels three times, why am I still here?
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Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2011, 06:34:14 PM
It's a shame to see that around 20 of the Palm trees on the Prom have succumbed to the recent bad weather and died. I doubt they will be replaced...no money etc etc.
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Post by: Blongb on February 15, 2011, 10:47:57 PM
They have gone to that great Sea of Mediocrity Dave, closely to be followed by the rest of Llandudno.  aaa.gif
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Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2011, 02:14:33 PM
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;D Going back to the Mayor;s old hotel the Tudno Castle,

I'm a little confused here. Are you talking about Cllr Ann Yates having the Tudno Castle? I thought she had a hotel in Hill Terrace previously, and prior to David Owen having the Tudno Castle was it not in the ownership of the Devoys for some years?
It says in the Pioneer she owned the Tudno Castle from 1997 - 2001.

Funnily, her quote on the subject is 'it's about time the authorities did something about it'. An inadvertent admission that the Town Council she is Mayor of is completely powerless and no more than a talking shop!
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Post by: Bellringer on February 16, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
So the Pioneer 'boobed' did they?
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Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2011, 09:55:15 PM
Myself, accompanied by Mr & Mrs Fester, attempted to represent the Forum at the Kings Head quiz tonight but failed due to the fact the place was packed out. However, I did have the pleasure of saying hello to Blongb!  :)

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Post by: Fester on February 17, 2011, 12:21:55 AM
In hindsight, it was probably for the best..... last week after 5 hours boozing we were very stupid indeed,

This week, we had only 4 hours of boozing prior to entering the King's Head, so we would most likely have been moderately stupid.


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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2011, 08:59:57 AM
Wow !-- wonder if you would win if you'd only had 1/2 hour ? _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
Llandudno brass band to record album at Abbey Road studio
by David Powell, DPW West
Feb 17 2011


A BRASS band will record in The Beatles’ famous Abbey Road studios... with a little help from their friends.

Llandudno Town Band will work in the London studio where the Fab Four’s legendary albums such as Revolver and Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band were recorded.

It is thanks to Llandudno-based record producer Gordon Lorenz who will help the 100-year-old band make their own album in May.

They may even recreate the famous Abbey Road photograph if the 30 band members can fit on the zebra crossing.

Mr Lorenz, who has worked there before and chose to use that venue for this project, said: “We will be making an album with Llandudno Town Band accompanying three or four local North Wales artists.

“They are going to be doing a whole range of songs from pop to Italian arias. They will be augmented with keyboards, bass and drums.

“I am hoping to get Graham Goulding from 10cc to play drums.”

Mr Lorenz added: “It was (musical director) Clive Wolfendale’s idea to make an album incorporating vocals of local singers (yet to be named) with a brass band.

“The idea was previously successful in 1973 with Peter Skellern. I have managed to get us into Abbey Road studios where I have worked many times before.

“We will be in the main No. 2 studio at Abbey Road where the Beatles recorded many of their songs.

“We will be walking into a piece of history. The studio has some original features from 1964. Its digital control room has been completely revamped but you know the screens (partitions) were the screens around John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr. And you are aware of the feet that have trodden that floor.”

Last year, Mr Lorenz worked at Abbey Road studios with actress and Gurkas’ rights campaigner Joanna Lumley.

He said: “We recorded a spoken word album of soldiers’ poems.”

The idea for the untitled new album came from Llandudno Town Band musical director Clive Wolfendale.

Mr Wolfendale said: “We will be trying to reflect the music of the last 50 years with pop music and some ballads.

“I grew up with the Beatles – they were fantastic. Their tunefulness and arrangements still sound amazing today. One song we will be covering is With A Little Help From My Friends.”

He added: “We will be using local talent which we have put together. It will just be incredible to record there. It’s such a historic venue. The band are very excited about the prospect of doing it and making sure that the good name of the band is brought even further afield.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/17/llandudno-brass-band-to-record-album-at-abbey-road-studio-55578-28185172/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/17/llandudno-brass-band-to-record-album-at-abbey-road-studio-55578-28185172/)
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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2011, 10:33:48 AM
Cold and mysterious!
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Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2011, 10:52:34 AM
Is this where local people fear to tread...?
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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Yes--exactly !
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Post by: Trojan on February 18, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
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Yes--exactly !

Were you using a zoom lens then?  8)
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Post by: Nemesis on February 18, 2011, 11:08:45 AM
No--wish something would manifest there. It fascinates me !
No evil vibes--- not like Elephant's cave, that gives me the heebie-- jeebies
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Post by: Fester on February 18, 2011, 05:01:51 PM
I noticed that Matelots club is open for business again.... I think Pendragon might be interested to know?

Having said that, I don't think there is much gets past her...
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Post by: wrex on February 20, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
 :)Just googled Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza to see what comes up and it is quite amazing to see a steam train coming in on the Saturday from the West Midlands,on the Monday a diesl hauled special from Sheffield,coaches from as far as kettering,Goole, all advertising they are coming into Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza,love it or loathe it there is one thing it does and that is keeping our town in the tourist spotlight ,which of course is the only reason our town was built. 8)
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Post by: brumbob on February 20, 2011, 04:54:37 PM
http://www.shakespeareexpress.com/tours/tr_2011_0430.htm (http://www.shakespeareexpress.com/tours/tr_2011_0430.htm)

don't forget the ghost train is also coming  :laugh:

shame the extravaganza is on that weekend, wouldn't mind the train trip  :P

Pulled by these two steam engines and what a lot of pollution they make,
quite reasonably priced compared to the ugly diesel from Sheffield and only 5 minutes up the road from me.

Didcot double headed steam 5043,4965 depart. Great Western Incursion. Feb 10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ1iCoH3pIU#)
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Post by: Hugo on February 20, 2011, 05:43:29 PM
There was more gunge coming out of those engines than from the power station in the background.   I can still remember those steam trains going past Maesdu Golf Club and setting fire to the embankments and gorse bushes.
Nostalgia aint what it used to be!
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Post by: Blongb on February 20, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Found out the Alliance Chemist (Formally Moss Chemist) on the corner of Gloddeath St. and Upper Mostyn Street is to close for good in mid April. It appears that now Boots have bought up all the little Chemists, they have too many outlets and don’t need it any more. I wonder what sort of restaurant that will turn into.     Z@@
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Post by: Nemesis on February 21, 2011, 11:07:53 AM
Yes, was told that in confidence by an employee a week or two ago. Trouble is what are all the older folk at this end of town going to do for their medical supplies?
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 21, 2011, 12:10:13 PM
Well like food shopping we have to go to the other end of town and it's always when it's raining and blowing a gale grrr. :(
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Post by: Pendragon on February 21, 2011, 05:02:30 PM
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I noticed that Matelots club is open for business again.... I think Pendragon might be interested to know?

Having said that, I don't think there is much gets past her...
Yeah the guy who owns the place is opening himself for the three days over the weekend.  Friday - Sunday.  He may have a local fella interested in the lease.  I hope he does well. 
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 22, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
I do think that the crocus display looks great on the way in from Penrhyn Bay D)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Feb%202011/DSCF1531.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Feb%202011/DSCF1530.jpg)
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Post by: Jack on February 22, 2011, 04:23:57 PM
Couldn't agree more about the Crocus displays, they look fantastic and nice to think that Spring is finally here!  For all the complaints that we all make from time to time about CCBC, this they should be congratulated on! :)
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Post by: TheMedz on February 22, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
Just spotted the first baby goats (kids?) of the year on the Orme just above Black Gate.
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Post by: brumbob on February 22, 2011, 05:47:39 PM
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Trouble is what are all the older folk at this end of town going to do for their medical supplies?
Can't they use Superdrug, that has a pharmacy.
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Post by: wrex on February 22, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
 :P Who the goats. :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on February 22, 2011, 07:14:13 PM
I was walking past Llwynon Terrrace yesterday and heard this loud clacking noise, There were about 6 goats in the garden of the house called Bodnant having a bit of a butting competition, taking it in turns to rear up and bash their horns against another male. Interesting to watch.
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Post by: brumbob on February 22, 2011, 07:27:10 PM
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere Dave  :twoface:
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Post by: Trojan on February 23, 2011, 03:41:34 AM
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I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere Dave  :twoface:

This is serious BB.  8)

It's the start of the mating season and the males are vying for breeding rights  - the more dominant males have the pick of the heard.
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Post by: Fester on February 23, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
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I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere Dave  :twoface:

This is serious BB.  8)

It's the start of the mating season and the males are vying for breeding rights  - the more dominant males have the pick of the heard.

Its a bit like being in The Washington on a Friday night then?
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Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2011, 11:06:53 AM
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Trouble is what are all the older folk at this end of town going to do for their medical supplies?
Can't they use Superdrug, that has a pharmacy.

Many times it isn't operational, even when the store is open. Like Llechwedd says, it is an upward battle against the wind and rain and if the place isn't open that means two visits.
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Post by: DaveR on February 26, 2011, 11:50:43 AM
An explosion of interest in the tour of the Grand Theatre photos I have on Flickr yesterday, with over 4,500 views of the photos in one day. Wonder why?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157623521219490/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157623521219490/)
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Post by: Yorkie on February 26, 2011, 12:00:53 PM
4,500 people got lost?     _))*
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Post by: Pendragon on February 26, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
Meeting my Dad at the Snowdon today to watch the Rugby.  I do hope Wales win.  I love meeting up with my Dad he's a mine of information on local sites of interest.  He goes away for two weeks on Tuesday, when he gets back I'm going to go through all the old books and pamphlets he has and pick his brains on local history.  Which I will in turn post on here. 
Y'know its incredible the difference Socs made while she was here.  I never thought I'd be interested in walking again and I have a renewed passion for all things local.  I'm pinching that dog she's ace.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 26, 2011, 03:15:42 PM
Just been chatting to Fester and his Mrs on the pier. Think she would have taken my Frizzy home!
 In my book, dogs are better than most people-- they don't tell lies--ask any dog owner ! ;)
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Post by: Yorkie on February 26, 2011, 04:50:11 PM
Well I know that when I used to say to my dog, "Who did that?" if she had been "naughty", I'm sure she shook her head as if to say, "No!"   She was a lovely brindle Boxer and I loved her to bits, so it was virtually impossible to chastise her.       ;D
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Post by: Fester on February 26, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
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Just been chatting to Fester and his Mrs on the pier. Think she would have taken my Frizzy home!
 In my book, dogs are better than most people-- they don't tell lies--ask any dog owner ! ;)

Frizzy is like a living teddy bear....  a very lively bundle of fun.
Please don't make me start liking dogs !!!

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Post by: dwsi on February 27, 2011, 07:15:10 PM
2 Llandudno related amateur weather sites ny the same person

http://www.llandudno.eu.pn/ (http://www.llandudno.eu.pn/)

http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/ (http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/)


 *&(
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Post by: Fester on February 27, 2011, 11:30:14 PM
Very good !!!
I prefer that forecast for this week, to the one offered by BBC Wales....
Can I pick and choose the weather I want?

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Post by: brumbob on February 28, 2011, 01:52:28 AM
It was snowing in Buxton where I was today. :(
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Post by: Yorkie on February 28, 2011, 07:43:19 AM
Isn't there something about, "The Sun shines on the righteous!"?    Maybe you been a bad boy!     _))*
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Post by: Ian on February 28, 2011, 08:32:46 AM
Thanks, Dwsi;  I've added the second link to our 'Useful Links' (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325.msg9853#msg9853) page.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 01, 2011, 10:45:59 PM
It's been a stunning day today in Llandudno, it doesn't get much better than this in early March

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/March%202011/DSCF1708.jpg)
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Post by: Fester on March 01, 2011, 10:58:41 PM
That belongs in a frame !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 01, 2011, 11:07:54 PM
Thanks, I never seem to print any pics and there are many waiting to go on to my Flickr site!
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Post by: Trojan on March 02, 2011, 01:23:46 AM
The sea looks like a mill pond.  :)
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Post by: suepp on March 02, 2011, 11:16:13 AM
Lovely photo, the sea looked so calm and flat, I had to stop the car at West Shore last night as I was passing to watch the glorious sunset
http://
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 02, 2011, 11:52:22 AM
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Lovely photo, the sea looked so calm and flat, I had to stop the car at West Shore last night as I was passing to watch the glorious sunset
http://

 $cool$ lovely sunset!
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Post by: dwsi on March 02, 2011, 06:16:02 PM
Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)
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Post by: DaveR on March 02, 2011, 09:41:24 PM
Cat in the Fat Cat:
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Post by: Fester on March 02, 2011, 10:48:13 PM
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Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)

Mmm, I like that.... bookmarked it to read it all later.
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Post by: DaveR on March 02, 2011, 10:52:29 PM
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Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)
A lot of old photos....that have been nicked off this website's gallery. :rage:
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Post by: Fester on March 02, 2011, 10:55:13 PM
Thought I recognised some of them...... where theres blame theres a claim!   L0L
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Post by: Trojan on March 03, 2011, 12:35:11 AM
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Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)
A lot of old photos....that have been nicked off this website's gallery. :rage:

Yes, isn't it Three Towns Forum member PKevin's site?  ?{}?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 03, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
That site has been there for ages.

Craig Ollerton also produced a disc of postcards of Llandudno, some of which were scanned from cards that I had given him.   I have a copy of the disc, so access to these old pictures is not restricted by any means.
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Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2011, 08:58:45 AM
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That site has been there for ages.

Craig Ollerton also produced a disc of postcards of Llandudno, some of which were scanned from cards that I had given him.   I have a copy of the disc, so access to these old pictures is not restricted by any means.
Most of the photos are taken from the Gallery here, Yorkie. I know that because specific images that I have resized, cropped, enhanced etc (and hence are unique to this Gallery) are reproduced on this other website, not to mention the odd more recent photo that I have personally taken.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 03, 2011, 09:12:17 AM
Not denying there could be some poaching as impossible for me to check all I have against them.  Give him the same punishment as Colonel Gadafi would - chop his hand off.    >>>

You can use a copyright claim against the ISP, that would sort it.
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Post by: suepp on March 03, 2011, 09:14:10 AM
there are some on there that have come from my collection of family photos ! I supose that's what happens when they are posted on public forums,
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Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2011, 09:14:47 AM
Well, the guy is a fan of Llandudno and has obviously put a lot of work into setting up the site, so my only wish really is that he would acknowledge the source of the pics.  :)
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Post by: Yorkie on March 03, 2011, 09:16:14 AM
I've been to it many times when trying to find answers to the Forum's Guessing games!!   Not with much success however!     _))*
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Post by: wrex on March 03, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
 ¢¢## Im not sure where the town turns from here with Hooson;s chemist closing,J D Sports moving on to Parc Llandudno and now Alworths closing down that end of town is going to look horrendous,its no surpriser to me the town council are;nt bothered about xmas lights,there will be no shops left to benifit from them. :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2011, 05:06:16 PM
I was just talking to Darren in Fountains and he said that Alworths was closing down. Thats a real shame. It could maybe do withbeing subdivided into smaller shops or a shopping arcade.
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Post by: brumbob on March 03, 2011, 05:33:53 PM
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It could maybe do withbeing subdivided into smaller shops or a shopping arcade.
Then fester could have one  :)
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Post by: pkevin on March 03, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
HI all,

Yes I do run oldllandudno, but I run it for the community to enjoy.

I started it because i got P*****f with other sites slaping thier copyright/water marks all over the images and pictures, and then having the cheek to selling them to us .

If I have a picture that you own the copyright to, just let me know and i will remove it.  If you want it to stay and want me to put your name on it , just let me know
and I will do it.
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Post by: Trojan on March 04, 2011, 12:58:28 AM
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I started it because i got P*****f with other sites slaping thier copyright/water marks all over the images and pictures, and then having the cheek to selling them to us .

Fair play Kev.

That DaveR has a lot to answer for.  >:(






 8)
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Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 08:16:31 AM
Would make a nice house. I would keep the Town Councillors on to provide the hot air for the heating system.  ;D
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Post by: wrex on March 04, 2011, 08:18:15 AM
 :-* I will offer one hundred thousand and then kick the lodgers out. ZXZ
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Post by: Ian on March 04, 2011, 08:48:52 AM
Quote
I was just talking to Darren in Fountains and he said that Alworths was closing down. Thats a real shame

We were walking round it the other day, and I was wondering how much longer it would survive. Lacking the bulk-buying power of Woolies, and the ability to have branded goods with their name and logo superimposed does leave them vulnerable. It was a good effort to preserve what many have fond memories of, but I'm not surprised they're closing. 
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Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 09:02:57 AM
Looking at the Alworths page for Llandudno:
http://www.alworths.com/llandudno.html (http://www.alworths.com/llandudno.html)

Judging by the bottom photo, there seems to be a bad case of subsidence in the store!  :laugh:

Shame it didnt even last a year:

News Release
22.07.2010

alworths to open its first Welsh store

IT WAS confirmed today that the variety retailer alworths will be launching its first Welsh store next month.

The first store will open in the former Woolworths premises in Llandudno on 13th August, creating 12 jobs for the town, with plans to open a further five stores across North and South Wales.

Alworths is a general retailer stocking a mix of branded toys, sweets, homeware, stationery, entertainment products, seasonal goods and garden items. The new stores will offer a large selection of pic ‘n’ mix along with party accessories, cards and wrap. In addition alworths will stock haberdashery and household convenience purchases and there will be a range of branded goods at competitive prices which will run on weekly promotions.

Llandudno will be the 11th store in the chain. Other stores can be found in Didcot, Amersham, Evesham, Warminster, Wokingham, Cosham, and New Milton. Two further stores opened in Scotland (Cupar and Forfar) last month closely followed by Alloa which opened on 21st July. The first store in Didcot opened on 5th November, 2009.

Alworths Ltd has been created by Andy Latham, ex-Head of Store and Concessions Development at Woolworths, along with a team of 15, nine of whom are former-Woolworths colleagues working alongside him at alworths’ Head Office in Redhill, Surrey.

Andy Latham, Managing Director of alworths says: “We’re delighted to be launching alworths in Wales and we hope the store in Llandudno will be well received by the local community. We’re looking forward to opening a further five stores across Wales, as we strongly believe that there is still a desire for traditional high street shopping.

Alworths is predominately aimed at families and our customers love the fact that they can just ‘pop in’ and pick up a few home essentials, CDs and pic ‘n’ mix in one shop instead of having to drive to out-of-town shopping locations. As this is our first seaside store, we will also be selling holiday essentials and beach toys too.”
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Post by: Nemesis on March 04, 2011, 09:04:34 AM
OOps ))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
We looked round Alworths when it first opened and we thought it was all too expensive  :o
we hoped it would do well but I could not see how with those prices   :o
We stocked up on things like xmas cards when the old Woolworths stores closed down, we have xmas cards that will last for decades!  D)
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Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Speculation in Retail Week that the entire Alworths chain is headed for bankruptcy, as the Founder of the company resigns.
http://www.toynews-online.biz/news/33591/Future-uncertain-for-Alworths (http://www.toynews-online.biz/news/33591/Future-uncertain-for-Alworths)
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Post by: brumbob on March 04, 2011, 12:23:13 PM
If Woolworths couldn't survive the High street any clone of it will also go.
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Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 05:05:09 PM
The former Diskos store on Mostyn Street has been sold
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Post by: Fester on March 04, 2011, 08:01:26 PM
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If Woolworths couldn't survive the High street any clone of it will also go.

That hits the nail on the head... Woolworths (with its good name) failed,  so what chance did a shop offering EXACTLY the same mish-mash range have of being successful.

Hmm, I wonder what Diskos is going to be?  Its been closed for a long time, and it will have to be a good venture to cover the high rental demanded there.
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Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2011, 11:25:51 AM
The final days of Alworths:
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Post by: Blongb on March 05, 2011, 11:11:30 PM
I popped in with the Misses to see if there were any bargains worth having and came out after ½ an hour with a washing basket which cost £2.80p. So I can't see them making a come back on the strength of that.
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Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2011, 07:30:50 PM
The Old Abbey at West Shore intrigues me...I've been past it many times and it always looks closed up and empty but I've seen the odd person wandering around in the past (possibly security or maintenance). Was it not supposed to be a Jewish Mother/Baby home?
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Post by: brumbob on March 06, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
Owned by 'A W Charitable Trust'
Aims & Objectives:
General charitable purposes at the discretion of the trustees with emphasis on the furthering of Jewish education and religion in the UK and abroad.
Some more piccies here
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073 (http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073)
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Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
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Owned by 'A W Charitable Trust'
Aims & Objectives:
General charitable purposes at the discretion of the trustees with emphasis on the furthering of Jewish education and religion in the UK and abroad.
Some more piccies here
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073 (http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073)
Here they are:
http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=283322&SubsidiaryNumber=0 (http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=283322&SubsidiaryNumber=0)

They don't seem to be doing too bad:
"The Charity's property investment portfolio is worth £97,761,659. After mortgages etc. totalling £51,767,755 the net worth of the properties is in excess of £45million."

The Old Abbey is described as a 'Beis Chana, Mother and Baby Home'. I believe the correct spelling is actually 'Bais Chana'.

"The properties include a building which is used as a "Mother & Baby" convalescent home, the cost of
which is £3,036,604."
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Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2011, 03:08:56 PM
Alworths store has been seized by their Landlord for non payment of rent and the locks have been changed.
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Post by: brumbob on March 07, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
Alworths heading for change of ownership

Alworths is reportedly undergoing a restructuring less than 18 months after opening its first shop.
Founded by Andy Latham, a former senior manager at Woolworths, Alworths was among a number of ventures launched after the chain collapsed into administration in 2008.
Documents filed at Companies House show that Mr Latham last week resigned as director, while the company’s registered office address had been changed to “care of” a solicitor in Redhill, the Surrey town where Alworths is headquartered.
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Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
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Alworths store has been seized by their Landlord for non payment of rent and the locks have been changed.

The Eviction Notice. All of the stock, fittings etc are still inside but Alworths cannot get to them - must be a few quids worth there.
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Post by: Llechwedd on March 08, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
There's a bailifs letter on the door of the now closed barbers in Brookes Street too - shame.
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Post by: ormegolf on March 08, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
Going back a day or two to the closure of Wellworths, several members expressed the opinion that if Woolworths could'nt make a go of it, then no similar store has any chance. I agree in Llandudno high street. But with one proviso. If a large company selling in a particular fashion fails, it does'ent necessarily mean that a new firm could not succeed in a particular site doing the same thing because the big national company would have had good stores, middling stores and poor stores, and if it had too many poor stores, then end of story. But someone taking one of the closed good sites could do well. Mike  P.S. I was very touched that one of the forum members, who shall remain anonimous to save his blushes, wrote to me whilst I was away on holiday to see if I was O.K.  Thats more than half my own family bothered to do.
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Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2011, 01:49:03 PM
Good to have you back, Mike!  $walesflag$
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Post by: ormegolf on March 08, 2011, 02:04:35 PM
Thanks Dave. In a way its nice to be back. But then the sun is shining. Dont know if I'll be so keen when the wind and rain return. Mike
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Post by: Ian on March 08, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
Welcome back, Michael :-))
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Post by: Bellringer on March 08, 2011, 03:08:17 PM
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Welcome back, Mike

Hear, Hear.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 08, 2011, 03:27:13 PM
Nice to know that you are back Mike. :)
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Post by: Trojan on March 09, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
Welcome back Mike.

Curry for tea this evening?  $dins$
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Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2011, 09:29:08 PM
Alworths has now reopened, after 'discussions' with their landlords, to carry on with their closing down sale!
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Post by: Trojan on March 10, 2011, 03:02:34 AM
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Alworths has now reopened, after 'discussions' with their landlords, to carry on with their closing down sale!

 $lol$
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Post by: Ian on March 11, 2011, 10:08:11 AM
I've moved the posts that drifted significantly off topic into the Coffee Centre.
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Post by: Richard on March 11, 2011, 11:32:43 AM

I am very pleased to see that continued local concern discussed earlier in this forum has been taken seriously by local councillors Jason Wyman and Mike Priestley who gives an update here on his blog http://mikepriestley.blogspot.com/2011/03/quick-updatedog-fouling.html (http://mikepriestley.blogspot.com/2011/03/quick-updatedog-fouling.html)

Even JFS gives it a mention in her 'non-too-informative' blog.

Alos, there has been much press coverage of local legislation on dogs. The facts are that many, perhaps the greater majority, of dog owners (and I speak as a dog owner myself for the last 20 years) cannot be trusted to clean up the dog mess that thier animals leave behind and the result has to be education and if nesseccary, enforced legislation. 

Dog fouling is one of the most off-putting issues for the area for both locals and visitors alike.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 11:50:09 AM
Good news, it seems to me if dogs are off a lead then some owners will not see what the dogs are doing, if the owners are talking to other people then they cannot see what is happening with their dogs. Dog owners have undertaken a 24 / 7 responsibility to look after every aspect of the dog including cleaning up after them.
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Post by: ormegolf on March 11, 2011, 05:41:36 PM
You are correct about this dog mess problem being off putting. Last summer I spent the first fifteen minutes every day cleaning it up.  But whilst Ive been in India I have given it some thought. Yes---thats right---what a way to spend a holiday!!! But I could'nt help it. As you probably know, in India animals and humans mix together all the time, there are stray dogs everywhere, cattle mix around the markets and come into the entrance of cafes and bars, goats are mingling amongst the traffic. But the dogs. Whilst they are young, male, fit they have a whale of a time, playing around, sleeping in the sun, chasing after each other. And getting food to eat. Most of the ones are saw are far from starving. (If they are old, ill, injured or a bitch---then thats a different matter).  But after a few weeks I noticed, I was amongst them every day and night, and I never once saw any sign of mess from them. Nor did I ever once see one making a mess. Not like here where you see it everyday.
  I thought about this. One thing, of course, is away from the village roads there are plenty of open spaces. But I also thought, is it anything to do with their diet? The indian dogs dont eat canned dog food. No doubt they would if they could get it, but they cannot get it.  If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)  otherwise they just scavange.  Has this got anything to do with it?  Im posting this in the Whats Llandudno like subject because its carrying on from previous posts
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Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 05:51:35 PM
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If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)
Doesn't that make you go  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
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If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)
Doesn't that make you go  :laugh:

not me as I've never eaten it and never will, can't stand the smell of it!  I bet these posts get moved  L0L
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Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
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not me as I've never eaten it and never will, can't stand the smell of it!  I bet these posts get moved  L0L
and I thought it was just me who couldn't stand Indian curry, though I love Chinese curry.  D)
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I bet these posts get moved  L0L
I think Ian secretly likes the authority  _))*
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Post by: Ian on March 11, 2011, 07:43:10 PM
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If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)  otherwise they just scavange.  Has this got anything to do with it?

Interesting.

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I think Ian secretly likes the authority

Don't have to like it, BB;  I've got the power!   WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
 $3towns$ Y^^Y  :D
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Post by: Hugo on March 11, 2011, 09:31:20 PM
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You are correct about this dog mess problem being off putting. Last summer I spent the first fifteen minutes every day cleaning it up.  But whilst Ive been in India I have given it some thought.

You just wait until you get back on the Golf Course Mike there'll be be 6 months of Goat & Sheep's poo waiting for you and that'll take you more than 15 minutes to clear!
Glad to hear that you made it to Goa and enjoyed your holiday there.
 :golf:
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Post by: Richard on March 12, 2011, 03:11:26 PM
There seems to be proliferation of drivers on their mobile phones whilst driving, recently I have seen a woman at the wheel of a vehicle emblazoned ‘Victim Support’ on her mobile, an AA van driver on his mobile, countless others, then lo and behold, today at 11.55 on the island at the Junction, I nearly got speared by a silver Range Rover plastered with ‘The Mulberry’ all over it, and guess what, the driver was on his mobile.

Of course it’s not dangerous, and these people are so important that the law does not apply to them, plus the fact that they are too poor to afford a hands free unit.
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Post by: brumbob on March 12, 2011, 03:19:57 PM
They must belong to the 1 in 40 club that show no signs of impairment whatsoever
http://www.itpro.co.uk/621955/supertaskers-can-safely-use-mobiles-while-driving (http://www.itpro.co.uk/621955/supertaskers-can-safely-use-mobiles-while-driving)
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Post by: Yorkie on March 12, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
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There seems to be proliferation of drivers on their mobile phones whilst driving, etc etc etc   Of course it’s not dangerous, and these people are so important that the law does not apply to them, plus the fact that they are too poor to afford a hands free unit.

I suggest you get yourself a real old banger from Arch Motors with a week or two's MOT, and next time you see one of those arseholes with a mobile phone run into them and then swear blind it was their fault for being on the mobile phone!  Also complain of whiplash and make a monster claim for damages and injury!    L0L   That'll teach them a lesson.
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Post by: DaveR on March 14, 2011, 06:35:05 PM
I was in Cafe Culture earlier and a black Volvo (not the owners, before anyone asks!  8) ) was left parked on the bus stop for at least 10 minutes, causing all sorts of problems for the buses and passengers. A traffic warden arrives and starts to write a ticket. As he does so, a blonde woman runs across the road (maybe from HSBC), says something to the warden, he nods, she jumps in and drives off.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 14, 2011, 06:42:02 PM
He was probably jotting down his telephone number!      WWW
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Post by: Nemesis on March 15, 2011, 11:29:22 AM
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I was in Cafe Culture earlier and a black Volvo (not the owners, before anyone asks!  8) ) was left parked on the bus stop for at least 10 minutes, causing all sorts of problems for the buses and passengers. A traffic warden arrives and starts to write a ticket. As he does so, a blonde woman runs across the road (maybe from HSBC), says something to the warden, he nods, she jumps in and drives off.

mmmm wish I had been there-- the charity shop I help at is on a bus stop and I have seen more than one person get booked whilst lugging boxes of stuff in there which they are donating. I would have asked what the criteria was that this person didn't get booked whilst people who are donating things have been. Grrrr They make me ill.
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Post by: Pendragon on March 17, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
Does anyone know where this centre is going to be? It must be a big building if its going to have 41 bedrooms and other in house facilities.

St Dunstan’s, the national charity that aims to provide an independent future for blinded ex-Service men and women, as we will be opening a 41 bed centre in Llandudno, Wales in late summer or autumn 2011. The Grade II listed building provides a number of services to beneficiaries and will be active and open 24/7 throughout the year.

I  know now, just looked it up.  What a beautiful looking building it is too.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 17, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
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Traffic Accident - Conwy Road - Thursday evening

A 17 year old driver had since died.       Full details www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251)

How many more before the police get off their backsides and monitor this piece of road in the evenings?   That piece of road together with the roundabout at each end are treated as a race track. 
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Post by: Llechwedd on March 17, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
Pendragon - The St. Dunstan's Centre is what used to be Lady Forester's Home and subsequently the north Wales Medical Centre.
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Post by: DaveR on March 17, 2011, 01:09:45 PM
It's a great building; I went for a nose round it a few years ago:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/1517302710_ceb695ad66_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/1517302710/)
Lady Forester’s Convalescent Home, Llandudno - Front Facade (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/1517302710/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Pendragon on March 17, 2011, 01:17:02 PM
Thanks Llechwedd - I've only really seen it through the trees.  I love buildings like these.  I love the one of Pwllcwrhon hall too Dave.  When I was writing up the Chronicles of Thomas Roberts (which is nearly finished) this building was mentioned in connection with Sir David Erskine and I thought at first it was, or had been situated in Conwy.  So that answered that question too.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2011, 01:22:54 PM
The inside of the Lady Forresters was very impressive when it was the North Wales Medical Centre, very elegant decor.
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Post by: Trojan on March 17, 2011, 06:20:28 PM
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The inside of the Lady Forresters was very impressive when it was the North Wales Medical Centre, very elegant decor.

This was the dining hall when it was Lady Forester's:
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Post by: brumbob on March 17, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
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It's a great building; I went for a nose round it a few years ago:
It looks like that awful stone cladding in your photo  :-\

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Post by: Paddy on March 17, 2011, 07:43:13 PM
I read in the Pioneer today that St. Dunstans have just recieved £2.5 million from RBL.

I can't believe ther're only 41 bedrooms in there!
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Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2011, 05:53:25 PM
The seagulls are happily munching their way through another batch of dead starfish that have been washed up on the beach:
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 06:14:20 PM
What's with all these dying fish, Sardines, Trout etc.  I know they've given various excuses but there has to be something going on.
My conspiracy theory is under water testing somewhere.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2011, 07:04:23 PM
Many species of sea fish are credited with committing Hari Kari and the starfish is just one of them.  Everything from whales to spratts do it.  It is just the lemming theory, one jumps over the cliff so they all follow.  Daft innit?
 )*)&
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:19:54 PM
Please don't think I'm taking the proverbial, Yorkie, although I am giggling, are you saying that all those 100s of tons of fish in Australia (I think it was) committed suicide?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2011, 07:23:57 PM
Without wishing to appear pedantic - Yes!

Mass suicide, not exactly unknown amongst the human race. ZXZ
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
This was January 2011.  Experts say these two events were not connected, I can't believe it was a coincidence?

A SECOND mysterious disaster killed 100,000 fish on the day 5,000 birds dropped dead from the sky in the same US state, it was revealed yesterday.

Shoals of drum fish corpses littered a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas River and washed up near Ozark city.

A tugboat operator found them on New Year’s Eve at the same time that flocks of blackbirds started smashing into the ground at the Arkansas town of Beebe, 125 miles away.

There was the Australian Sardines, 100s of tons, then the Trout in the UK only last week. Plus two lots of suicidal Starfish!   :o


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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
I know that mass suicide amongst humans has gone on in religious sects, are there any other instances.  I'm interested now
 ?{}?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2011, 07:37:07 PM
One quick reference for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide)
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:50:57 PM
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One quick reference for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide)
That's really interesting reading, brave really I suppose. Thanks Yorkie
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Post by: Trojan on March 18, 2011, 08:51:31 PM
We had a similar problem down in Redondo Beach last week.

The fish were packed into the harbour like........sardines.

Millions of Dead Fish - KCAL 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niP6E9ZEeLI#ws)
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Post by: Fester on March 18, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
The starfish are not suicidal,  they are just SLOW.

Basically the tide was out to the lowest level that I have ever seen it, and the Starfish just can't move quickly enough to keep with the 'drift out'

The seagulls don't even like then that much .... they mess about with them, nibble a bit off, drop them on the prom and the pier... but they are more trouble than they are worth (especially if there are some mussels or ice cream in the vicinity)

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Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2011, 10:44:31 AM
Found 1/2 of one in one of my flower pots last week--- gross  :roll:
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Post by: Trojan on March 19, 2011, 02:27:58 PM
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Found 1/2 of one in one of my flower pots last week--- gross  :roll:

Mussel or ice-cream?
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Post by: Paddy on March 19, 2011, 02:35:02 PM
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Found 1/2 of one in one of my flower pots last week--- gross  :roll:

Mussel or ice-cream?

Seagull?
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Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2011, 05:57:51 PM
No wings on it, so it didn't fly there !! _))*
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Post by: Trojan on March 19, 2011, 07:26:15 PM
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No wings on it, so it didn't fly there !! _))*

Gull?
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Post by: Trojan on March 19, 2011, 07:27:15 PM
Seagull steals food from Puffins beak:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/810446-seagull-steals-a-puffins-food-from-its-mouth (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/810446-seagull-steals-a-puffins-food-from-its-mouth)
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Post by: Fester on March 19, 2011, 07:29:28 PM
Thieving b****r...
But is it really a seagull?  With that beak and head colouring?

Where did the solitary wing come from?

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 19, 2011, 07:32:56 PM
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Thieving b****r...
But is it really a seagull?  With that beak and head colouring?

Where did the solitary wing come from?



Arthur Gull  :D
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Post by: Yorkie on March 19, 2011, 07:35:41 PM
Black Headede Gull Summer Plumage.
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Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 03:21:31 PM
To go with the very low tide yesterday was a very high one this morning - good thing there wasn't a gale blowing!
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Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:16:32 PM
Hey, The Grand Hotel has just caught my eye.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 20, 2011, 05:22:52 PM
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Hey, The Grand Hotel has just caught my eye.  :)

you need some eye protectors  8) :P L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
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Hey, The Grand Hotel has just caught my eye.  :)

you need some eye protectors  8) :P L0L

 $lol$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2011, 11:08:16 AM
What a fantastic day it was yesterday, weatherwise. I was sitting outside Cafe Culture in the afternoon and it was so warm in the blazing sunshine that it actually began to feel a little bit too hot! Not quite so nice today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on March 23, 2011, 11:24:36 AM
Yesterday was beautiful, wasn't it.  This was a view from the Great Orme yesterday.  Aren't we lucky to live here!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2011, 11:25:10 AM
Was also very pleasant sitting on Pedro's landing stage outside 101, and the air is not quite so toxic as Mostyn Street!    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 23, 2011, 05:21:31 PM
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Was also very pleasant sitting on Pedro's landing stage outside 101, and the air is not quite so toxic as Mostyn Street!    ZXZ

Does Pedro fly a helicopter?  :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2011, 05:24:47 PM
No - it's for his Ark when we get the floods.    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 23, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
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No - it's for his Ark when we get the floods.    _))*

 :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on March 24, 2011, 02:41:31 PM
   Where is Cafe Culture?? 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 03:00:18 PM
Its across the road from HSBC
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 03:59:31 PM
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   Where is Cafe Culture?? 8)

 :)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
Where was that taken from, Trojan?  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 09:42:59 PM
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Where was that taken from, Trojan?  8)

An Arriva open top sight seeing bus. (Boarded outside Nigel Roberts' Newsagents)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 09:48:12 PM
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Where was that taken from, Trojan?  8)

An Arriva open top sight seeing bus. (Boarded outside Nigel Roberts' Newsagents)
thats....http://www.nigelroberts.co.uk/ (http://www.nigelroberts.co.uk/)   :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 24, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
Never knew Nigel had a website.... did you have a hand in that Dave?


Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
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Never knew Nigel had a website.... did you have a hand in that Dave?
Certainly not! I would have made sure the shop was correctly placed on the map, for starters, instead of it being shown as at the bottom of Arvon Ave...  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 11:44:01 PM
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Never knew Nigel had a website.... did you have a hand in that Dave?
Certainly not! I would have made sure the shop was correctly placed on the map, for starters, instead of it being shown as at the bottom of Arvon Ave...  :roll:

It's not the location of the shop, it's where Nigel Roberts likes to hang out and watch the world go by.  ^*^0 (*) $00$ :cyclist40:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 11:46:06 PM
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Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

 >?>?? Wasted journey that was.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 24, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
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It's not the location of the shop, it's where Nigel Roberts likes to hang out and watch the world go by.  ^*^0 (*) $00$ :cyclist40:
Perhaps he sits on the corner with Bugsy
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 24, 2011, 11:53:10 PM
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Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

 >?>?? Wasted journey that was.

Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 24, 2011, 11:59:02 PM
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Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.
ha ha, it's great to read these old posts again
http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html (http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 25, 2011, 12:09:47 AM
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Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.
ha ha, it's great to read these old posts again
http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html (http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html)

 L0L Every one a classic!

It's actually rather sad; the town needs a good forum, but one untainted by the owner's delusions of paranoia and the astonishing ineptness of 'Trojan'. Why the decent contributors to that forum have swallowed his tales so easily for so long is utterly beyond me. Without being unkind, I can only assume they are relative novices in the internet world and thus susceptible to the strange constructs of the truly deluded.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 25, 2011, 12:13:20 AM
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Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

 >?>?? Wasted journey that was.

Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.

We stopped at the Baytree so I could drop off a gift for my mate.  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:19:39 AM
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my mate.  8)
8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on March 25, 2011, 08:29:58 AM
Thank you Dave & Trojan, I had a fav coffee shop on the Gold Coast & have been trying to find one in Llandudno. At the moment I like Le Gatte in Craig y Don but will try C.C.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:09:03 AM
Kava in Upper Mostyn Street is also very good.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:14:40 AM
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It's not the location of the shop, it's where Nigel Roberts likes to hang out and watch the world go by.  ^*^0 (*) $00$ :cyclist40:
Perhaps he sits on the corner with Bugsy
I'll ask Nigel when I see him....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
Planning Application has gone into convert the old Shus shop in Lloyd Street into a cafe/restaurant. Think it is the Hambone expanding.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
Visitors to the town will not go short of places to eat then?    Just the lack of entertainment to sort out now!    L0L

Oh!  And the Christmas lights, and pot holes, and 1001 other things.     ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 06:13:49 PM
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Planning Application has gone into convert the old Shus shop in Lloyd Street into a cafe/restaurant. Think it is the Hambone expanding.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/100416/museum-first-for-extravaganza.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/100416/museum-first-for-extravaganza.aspx)
must just be a temporary museum
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2011, 08:08:57 PM
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Thank you Dave & Trojan, I had a fav coffee shop on the Gold Coast & have been trying to find one in Llandudno. At the moment I like Le Gatte in Craig y Don but will try C.C.

I like Le Gatte too and the Cappuccino there is the nicest I've tasted anywhere.  Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay is also a good place to go and is usually quite busy which is a good thing nowadays.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 08:13:36 PM
I'm quite happy with the Cappuccino at Wetherspoons
I can have 2 or 3 for the price of 1 in Cafe Culture
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
There's Cappuccino's and there's Cappuccino's Brumbob and I bet that Le Gatte's will beat both Wetherspoon's and Cafe Culture.      ;) ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:19:59 PM
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I'm quite happy with the Cappuccino at Wetherspoons
I can have 2 or 3 for the price of 1 in Cafe Culture
But you can you sip it outside in the sunshine and watch the world go by, Brumbob?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
and choke on the car fumes or smokers  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
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and choke on the car fumes or smokers  :laugh:
Rubbish!!  Wetherspoons is a soulless mausoleum of a building...you'd best advised to take a torch if you go there. ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2011, 09:06:21 PM
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But you can you sip it outside in the sunshine and watch the world go by, Brumbob?

Did you mean sPit ?    L0L

I favour Pedro's Cafe 101, small and bright, facing directly South and away from the road with easy parking.  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
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But you can you sip it outside in the sunshine and watch the world go by, Brumbob?

Did you mean sPit ?    L0L

I favour Pedro's Cafe 101, small and bright, facing directly South and away from the road with easy parking.  :D
Not a lot of good when you want a coffee in central Llandudno, though....  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:21:06 PM
Anyway, Fortes in Rhos is better than any cafe named so far!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 25, 2011, 10:29:14 PM
I have to stick up for Wetherspoons Coffees,  its the Lavazza brand,  its excellent... and its he cheapest in town.
Also, get your card stamped and you get one free, after buying the previous 5.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2011, 07:41:00 AM
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Anyway, Fortes in Rhos is better than any cafe named so far!  ;D

I'll go along with this, problem is it's no good when you want a coffee in central Llandudno!    :P   :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 08:02:19 AM
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I have to stick up for Wetherspoons Coffees,  its the Lavazza brand
Good coffee depends upon two things....good quality coffee beans...and the correct preparation. Wetherspoons have the first bit correct....  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on March 26, 2011, 08:32:11 AM
Went to Wetherspoons once (not for Coffee tho), loved that they had saved some of the features of the old Palladium. but hated the rest of it. Think I will stick with Le Gatte for the time being.   (Hi Hugo) :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 26, 2011, 10:13:38 AM
La Gatte was excellent when we went, and a lovely ambience.  But you pay for that!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:26:10 PM
Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 06:35:12 PM
Why has that lamppost not got a light on top of it  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:35:39 PM
Good to see the Palladium finally being uncovered...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:38:31 PM
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Why has that lamppost not got a light on top of it  :rage:
None of them have, apart from a couple down by Bog Island and a few in Upper Mostyn Street. They were all removed when the present method of lighting Mostyn Street by floodlights above the shops was installed in the 1970s. There was talk of them brought back into use but it comes down to £££ as always. Most towns would be cherishing an original Victorian feature like that, Llandudno's are abandoned...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 06:40:57 PM
They should have left the lights on top even if they weren't in use  :rage:

The Palladium is looking pristine  $good$

seems like they are having a bit of planning trouble with the new signs though
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:45:21 PM
Yes, they should look like this...:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/25702328_dccfd99eed.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/25702328/)
Victorian Lamp at Llandudno, North Wales (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/25702328/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

or this...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3362/3435760004_d22198aff1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3435760004/)
The Blue Lamp (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3435760004/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Very elegant designs, both of them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:51:06 PM
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The Palladium is looking pristine  $good$

seems like they are having a bit of planning trouble with the new signs though
Yes, and I'm not quite sure why.   $scratch$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 26, 2011, 09:05:57 PM
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Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...

Mine was a bit out of date I suppose. Not so easy for me to pop into town on a regular basis.  ££@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
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Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...

Mine was a bit out of date I suppose. Not so easy for me to pop into town on a regular basis.  ££@@
Pfft, as if living 5000 miles away is any excuse.  $sunny$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 26, 2011, 09:16:06 PM
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Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...

Mine was a bit out of date I suppose. Not so easy for me to pop into town on a regular basis.  ££@@
Pfft, as if living 5000 miles away is any excuse.  $sunny$

At least you can see the St Georges Place sign clearly in my photo!  $happy$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
 :rage: Having just been to Iceland foods i cannot believe why the Managers of all those stores are putting up with those traffic lights,9 seconds their on for its a joke,,fourteen shops on there and it is all judged on Asda,i cannot believe nobody else is not bothered by Highways joke of transport management in this town .I thought we were getting electronic car park signs to show availability,anyway no wonder Aldi want to get of there when their customers can;t. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
I have been on a visit to Aldi in Llandudno this afternoon.   Didn't have any long wait to get through the traffic lights.  The wait was to get out of the retail park back onto the road!   >>>

And this was about 10 past 3.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 29, 2011, 06:55:05 PM
  ¢¢## Llandudno right now is very quiet,no developments and no news,even Oscar can find nothing going on. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 07:02:25 PM
I can tell you that according to the Llandudno Town Council the following amounts have been given to the Llandudno Rugby Club:
2004     500.00
2005     500.00
2006     500.00
2007    2000.00
2008    1000.00
2010    1000.00
2011     500.00

Seems to be a regular "gift", surely grants should be for special needs, not an annual income source!

No influence by any particular Councillor has been declared. 

Other figures are awaited regarding other grants or subsidies.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 07:38:52 PM
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No influence by any particular Councillor has been declared.

 *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 08:04:26 PM
Can you get a better picture, we have the Town Twinning to do yet!     L0L  
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Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 08:34:49 PM
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Can you get a better picture, we have the Town Twinning to do yet!     L0L  

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20203529005 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20203529005)

 _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 08:49:36 PM
How did I miss it?    L0L    L0L     L0L    $eu  

Vive la Ville de Wormhoudt!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 08:53:58 PM
Some of the comments on The Wall are hillarious:  L0L

I was bored to tears on the M6. My mp3 player died thus was forced to listen to him for eleven hours.

But one day, I'm convinced the knowledge about the hidden bunkers WILL save my life.


On a diving trip to Malta in the early '90s he announced us to a hotel receptionist as four skin divers.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 08:56:22 PM
I read them all and also checked out all his "friends".  I wonder if he knows?     _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on March 31, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 31, 2011, 09:12:38 PM
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Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
To knock down the lodge that was knocked down months ago?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 12:12:26 PM
St. Dunstans new centre will need 70 staff, all the info is here if anyone is interested:
http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/about_us/working_for_st_dunstans/index.html (http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/about_us/working_for_st_dunstans/index.html)

Photos of the work to get the Centre ready are here:
http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/support_us/llandudno_capital_appeal/llandudno_centre.html (http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/support_us/llandudno_capital_appeal/llandudno_centre.html)

(http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/images/gallerymainphoto/915_photo_4.jpg)
Image courtesy St. Dunstans
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2011, 12:48:02 PM
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Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
To knock down the lodge that was knocked down months ago?

The builder obviously knows the loopholes in planning laws! I can't see the Lodge here in the photo I took on the 7th October 2010.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 08:24:04 AM
Cycling on the promenade update.

1057. CYCLING ON LLANDUDNO PROMENADE

The Capital Programming and Traffic Engineer sought Members’ views
regarding the use of Llandudno Promenade for un-segregated cycling, and
to review the byelaw prohibiting cycling.

Representations had been received from the Llandudno Promenade
Consultative Group requesting a review of an existing cycling prohibition
on the Promenade.

The issue had been placed on the Communities Forward Work
Programme by Councillor Christine Rees Jones.

In support of reviewing cycling on the promenade Councillor Christine
Jones made the following observations:-

•   Not allowing cycling on the promenade was out of step with other seaside towns

•   Cycling should be allowed for reasons of health, tourism and leisure

•   In relation to health and safety issues, accidents also happened on roads and pavements

•   Cycling on the Parade was dangerous

•   The byelaws were not clear and could be open to interpretation

•   Cyclists should be allowed on the Promenade on an informal basis

•   Cycling could be allowed for a trial period

•   A Task and Finish Group could be established to look at best practiceof other Local Authorities which permitted cycling on theirPromenades

Comments and answers to questions were as follows:-

•   On 24 August 2006 Cabinet had refused a variety of options to allow cycling on the Promenade

•   Parade Road, adjacent to the Promenade, was dangerous for cyclists

•   The Promenade was wide enough to allow cyclists and pedestrians

•   Mostyn Estates would need to be consulted, in the first instance, before consideration was given by the Council to allow cycling on the
•   Promenade; this was to ascertain whether they would object as they own the Promenade

•   Although the byelaws could be improved upon, for clarity the Acting Corporate Director confirmed that cycling was not permitted on the Promenade

•   If objections were made against a change to a byelaw it could lead to a public inquiry

•   Heritage Lottery Funding had been received for the gardens, which ran parallel to the Promenade, and Local Electoral Division Members did not want them removed in order to provide a cycle route

•   The need for cyclists to obtain insurance, in case of accidents, was discussed

•   Although there had been no reported accidents or collisions between cyclists and pedestrians, there had been anecdotal evidence of incidents and near misses

•   Health and safety issues would need to be considered in detail

As a way forward it was agreed to establish a politically balanced
Promenade Cycling Task and Finish Group to review the previous decision
of Cabinet not to allow cycling on Llandudno Promenade.

RESOLVED that

a politically balanced Promenade Cycling Task and Finish
Group be established to:-

•   Consult with Mostyn Estates
•   Ascertain best practice of other Local Authorities
•   Discuss Health and Safety Issues
•   Review the current byelaw

Councillor Linda Groom requested that her voted against the above
recommendation be noted.

Councillors Philip C. Evans J.P., Linda Groom and Margaret Lyon declared
a personal, but non-prejudicial interest in the above as they are all
Members of Llandudno Town Council

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2011, 08:46:35 AM
This whole cycling on the Prom thing is a non issue and a waste of Council time. I see people cycling on the Prom every day. Incidentally, I was walking along the Prom in Colwyn Bay last weekend and, once again, cyclists were riding on the pavement rather than the cycle path.
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Post by: Waffagolf on April 02, 2011, 10:22:25 AM

My Dad used to live in the Lodge they've knocked down. I have a picture of him as a 2 or 3 year old sitting right outside with his mum on the doorstep watching him play. I was very sad when I heard the Lodge had gone.

Nasty accident not far from there the other evening when a cyclist coming down the Orme at speed around 8pm collided with a fox crossing the road. One could not see the other. I'm told the cyclist was not in a good way.
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Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
To knock down the lodge that was knocked down months ago?

The builder obviously knows the loopholes in planning laws! I can't see the Lodge here in the photo I took on the 7th October 2010.
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Post by: Ian on April 02, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
Welcome to the forum, Waf
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 12:29:55 PM
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•   Cycling on the Parade was dangerous

I wonder if a one way system down the Parade and back up Mostyn Street (or vice versa) for all traffic could be the answer.  :cyclist40:
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Post by: Paddy on April 02, 2011, 01:41:50 PM
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•   Cycling on the Parade was dangerous

I wonder if a one way system down the Parade and back up Mostyn Street (or vice versa) for all traffic could be the answer.  :cyclist40:

It's a good idea which has been mooted often over the years. It would certainly solve the problem of tailbacks caused by coaches loading/unloading on the Prom.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 02, 2011, 01:58:21 PM
I can give you a plan which I drew up a few years ago whilst I was in Hospital for a few weeks following an operation.    No one was interested despite the relative simplicity of the arrangement.    $walesflag$



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Post by: Ian on April 02, 2011, 02:05:41 PM
Twenty four years ago, a plan to pedestrianise Mostyn Street was put forward, to be defeated by the shops en masse complaining it would destroy their businesses through the loss of 'passing trade'.  Twenty four years on and the declining number of surviving shops are blaming the Parc Llandudno and Mostyn Champney shops for their impending demise. Perhaps if they'd employed a little more foresight and a little less tunnel vision Mostyn Street would still be thriving.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 05:42:12 PM
Ian, I was not suggesting pedestrianisation.

If all the traffic went up Mostyn Street with M&S on their right-hand side this would immediately eliminate the present queues coming down Mostyn Street towards Bog Island.

There already is a designated cycle path that comes down Conway Road by the Magistrates' Courts to join up with my proposed one-way route up Mostyn Street.

I would certainly be interested in listening to Yorkie's suggestion if he is prepared to share it with us.

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Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
A real feeling of Summer today, with beautiful weather and both the tramway and cable car in full operation. Town and Pier were packed.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5582729524_2159aedc18_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5582729524/)
Descending the Great Orme (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5582729524/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

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Post by: brumbob on April 02, 2011, 06:42:43 PM
A picture that must have been taken a million times
but you still made it look good  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on April 02, 2011, 07:46:27 PM
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I would certainly be interested in listening to Yorkie's suggestion if he is prepared to share it with us.
I shall endeavour to commit it to a graphic format (a picture) and then post a scan to the Forum.  Give me a day or so.   ZXZ
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 08:08:15 PM
I can't wait.   *&(

 :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: 
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Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 02:03:52 AM
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Welcome to the forum, Waf

Welcome back Waffagolf.....long time no see.  8)

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Post by: Ian on April 03, 2011, 09:14:23 AM
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Ian, I was not suggesting pedestrianisation.

I know.  I mentioned it only as an example of how narrow interests often prevent changes for the better in the town.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2011, 10:54:20 AM
We had a great time yesterday in Venue Cymru,  we went for a walk in the morning and when I was going past VC I remembered that David Dickinson was there with the team from 'Dickinson's Real Deal' so we popped in for a quick look. There were not many people there and we watched a few deals being done and retake after retake! There are 4 separate dealers sections, each with it's own film crew, several times we were required as extras in the background, afterwards we were rewarded with free coffee & food (no entrance fee either, right up my boulevard  ;D ) After about an hour and a half we thought lets go home and find something to sell, so after a quick sandwich at home (I eat a lot :laugh:) we returned clutching valuable antiques ;)  we had our items looked at and 2 were selected to be filmed for the show, the first was an enamelled sign (Lyon's Tea) that I had bought for a tenner about 3 years ago at a car boot, Helen was doing the on screen bit and the dealer offered £60  :o  D) Helen turned to me in the background and asked if that was ok, I nodded in agreement (in my head I was screaming 'YES, YES!!! ) That was a good result!  Our other item was filmed also with er indoors but the offer was not enough so on the 28th April it's off to Morgan Evans,  Anglesey  for auction, we had a good chat with the auctioneer afterwards and we will be putting a few other items into the same auction  D)
In all a great day, cost nowt and a good earner too, David Dickinson is a total professional, going form dealer to dealer filming different deals, he was good to talk to too!                 
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Post by: suepp on April 03, 2011, 11:01:25 AM
that sounds great,  will watch out for it on the box! *&(
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
It may well be around 4 months before they show it, I believe they will make 4 shows from the filming on Saturday.
I forgot to mention that they filmed a piece on Punch and Judy whilst we were there .
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Post by: brumbob on April 03, 2011, 01:10:31 PM
Great result Andy, let us know nearer the date of broadcast
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Post by: wrex on April 03, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
 :()Ihave just got back from a weekend in Liverpool so decided to pop down to Llanrhos cemetry and put some flowers on Mums grave,it was very busy and i was shocked to see the place looking such a mess.I do go on  regular visits and will admit it normally is well kept,but to think it is mothers day and the CCBC did not check the place out is not very nice. ¢¢##
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Post by: brumbob on April 03, 2011, 05:08:43 PM
The Registrar and his staff can be contacted regarding any crematorium or cemetery matter on 01492 544677
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Post by: wrex on April 03, 2011, 06:28:19 PM
 :( Im not really trying to make an issue out of this as the cemetry normally is very well kept its just the thought of hundreds visiting there today on what must be the buisiest day for visits that the CCBC did not cut the grass or empty the bins on friday. :'(
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Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 07:14:16 PM
Whilst passing through Llandudno Junction today, I noticed that all the street nameplates had been replaced with fancy new ones, even ones on alleyways!

Sadly, Llandudno itself hasn't had any new ones in yonks, just look at the state of them (see pic below). I'll ask the same question again...what has Llandudno Junction got that other parts of the County haven't? Answers on a postcard please to Mike Priestley, the Cabinet Member for the Environment, c/o his Llandudno Junction ward....
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Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
There's a building plot for sale on Llys Helig Drive - see attached plan (Plot is in yellow, Old Abbey is in red to aid identification). Offers over £700,000.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2011, 07:38:07 PM
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...what has Llandudno Junction got that other parts of the County haven't?

lots of cash? 
the signs in Penrhyn Bay are no better  :(
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Post by: wrex on April 04, 2011, 05:07:55 PM
 ??? I have just noticed that two little cul de sac;s at the top of builders st have permits for residents parking,now i know the people of Charlton st,Jubilee st,Caroline rd ,have been trying for years because office staff and shopworkers park outside their houses all day,yet Marion place and Marion rd have been given this privilage,why? :roll:/
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Post by: Yorkie on April 04, 2011, 05:35:37 PM
The Junction is being "attended to" so that all those folk working in the new Assembly rooms building will have a clean and pleasant environment in which to frollic and play.    Z**
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Post by: Paddy on April 04, 2011, 05:44:41 PM
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??? I have just noticed that two little cul de sac;s at the top of builders st have permits for residents parking,now i know the people of Charlton st,Jubilee st,Caroline rd ,have been trying for years because office staff and shopworkers park outside their houses all day,yet Marion place and Marion rd have been given this privilage,why? :roll:/

I can only assume it must be to stop the Council workers from the depot just up the road leaving their cars there all day?
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Post by: wrex on April 04, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
 8) Very true Paddy ,so why are the Mostyn ward streets left to put up with parking everyday,could it be certain Clls have more say on Tudno. :-\
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Post by: JasonW on April 04, 2011, 08:28:36 PM
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...what has Llandudno Junction got that other parts of the County haven't?

lots of cash? 
the signs in Penrhyn Bay are no better  :(
Merddin Emrys you are absolutely right. £400K infact
see http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=28168&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=28168&Language=1)
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Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
What I genuinely don't understand is why Llandudno Junction keeps getting singled out for special treatment. All of the pavements, street lighting, railings etc were replaced using money from Tesco back in 1997...and now yet more work gets done whilst other towns and villages in the County get nothing and havent had a penny spending on them for years - Rhos on Sea springs to mind?
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Post by: JasonW on April 04, 2011, 08:56:46 PM
I agree, by putting all the money into the more deprived areas it means those other areas just deteriorate further.
Unless something is done to improve the more viable but still struggling areas like Llandudno, Rhos on Sea, Deganwy then all that happens is a continually downward spiral that will ultimately create more deprived areas.
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Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:24:50 PM
 :roll:I notice a certain councillors road is having dropped curbs installed and the pavements recovered,when the likes of Caroline road has been completly ignored,but i supose that is why he gets the votes on his ward . :rage:
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Post by: Yorkie on April 06, 2011, 09:28:50 PM
Are you talking about Councillor Philip Evans?   Who presides over one of the most deprived wards in the whole of Wales, where he has been a Councillor for over 30 years!

Maybe he thinks that a few dropped kerbs will help to engraciate himself with the voters who have been let down during those years.
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Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2011, 11:05:02 AM
'Hitler’ threat to Jewish ex-lover
by Dan Beavan, DPW West Apr 7 2011

A MAN accused of threatening to disfigure his Jewish ex-partner shouted “Heil Hitler” as he was led from the dock in court yesterday.

Stephen Murray, 29, of Parc Bodnant, Llandudno, pleaded guilty at Prestatyn magistrates’ court to two offences of breaching a restraining order prohibiting him from approaching his former partner Ashleigh Terry.

ŠProsecutor Nia Lloyd said on April 4 and April 6 Murray sent her menacing text messages.

In one message he said: “I am back, I am back. Heil Hitler” and in another he told her: “I’m going to shave your head and draw noughts and crosses on your ugly Jewish face with my trusty blade Geronimo”.

He also wrote: “You can’t restrain the Luftwaffe with a restraining order”.

Murray also admitted 12 offences of causing criminal damage after slashing the tyres of cars on the road where Ms Terry’s mum and sister lived.

Simon Sargent, defending, described the whole incident as “regrettable” but stressed that no violence had occurred.

He was committed to Mold Crown Court for sentence.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/04/07/hitler-threat-to-jewish-ex-lover-55578-28475115/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/04/07/hitler-threat-to-jewish-ex-lover-55578-28475115/)
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Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2011, 07:44:39 PM
The building at the bottom of Mostyn Street that used to house the Wonderllandudno gift shop has been bought by Mostyn Estates who are renovating and redecorating.
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Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
There's a boat in trouble out in the Bay, the Lifeboat has just gone out to rescue it.
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Post by: Trojan on April 08, 2011, 05:31:04 PM
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There's a boat in trouble out in the Bay, the Lifeboat has just gone out to rescue it.

This rescue seems to be taking a long time.  ???
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Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2011, 05:41:13 PM
Nah, the Lifeboat attached a line to the boat in distress (which was not far from the pierhead) and towed it off in the direction of Conwy after about 10 mins.  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on April 08, 2011, 09:05:42 PM
Tomorrow is Grand National Day.   A good Tip with a local connection is:

OSCAR TIME
Worth chancng a quid or so!     L0L

My tip is BIG FELLA THANKS
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Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
Busiest day of the year so far in Llandudno. The sunshine has brought the crowds out in force.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 09, 2011, 04:30:30 PM
Well a SECOND place with Oscar Time  Wasn't a bad result.  Big Fella Thanks   was 8th so didn't do too bad.   And I didn't get the tips off my Daughter this time!    Z**
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Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2011, 08:13:41 PM
A busy Llandudno today:
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Post by: Paddy on April 10, 2011, 04:43:32 AM
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A busy Llandudno today:

Which carried on into the night.  The wheels didn't stop turning until two minutes before I poured my first vodka at 4am!
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Post by: wrex on April 10, 2011, 08:14:38 AM
 ;D Sweet dreams :-*
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 08:47:50 AM
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A busy Llandudno today:

Which carried on into the night.  The wheels didn't stop turning until two minutes before I poured my first vodka at 4am!

$good$
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 05:20:57 PM
The Hoosons and old Boots Chemists shops on Mostyn Street have had their windows blocked up after closure and all the signage removed this afternoon. Odd that no attempt has been made to let the premises before closure?
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 05:38:40 PM
Another beautiful day, town seemed even busier than yesterday:
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 05:45:48 PM
Several of the town's miscreants were caged this afternoon at the pier entrance in aid of St. Davids Hospice and were only released when they had raised enough money for the charity. Amongst those visible are the Pier Manager, Conservative AM candidate Janet Finch-Saunders, The Manager of the Imperial Hotel, The Manager of Bodyshop, The Headmaster of Ysgol San Sior, The Manager of the Afon Conwy, The Mayor of Llandudno... Fair play to them all for being sporting enough to take part.
http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/ (http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/)
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 06:03:10 PM
Some more photos of the St. Davids Hospice Fundraising event on the Pier.

1) Pier manager, Simon Mason, slips out of his handcuffs.
2) The Mayor of Llandudno, Ann Yates, is removed by PC Mike Smith after some unseemly behaviour.
3) Marcus Williams (Manager of the Imperial Hotel) attempts a spot of singing.
4) Ian Jones (Headmaster of Ysgol San Siôr) also attempts a spot of singing.
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 06:13:56 PM
Some more photos...

1) Sue Jeffrey (Manager of the Llandudno Bodyshop) takes the microphone for a sing song.
2) Catwoman (Janet Magill) strikes her best Shirley Bassey pose.
3) Double Act - Man In Black (Derrick Orme - Tudno FM Presenter) and Pier Manager Simon Mason attempt a double act. Key word...'attempt'.  :laugh:
4) Some say she's just a clown...but we know better. The legendary Janet Finch-Saunders!!!
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Post by: Trojan on April 11, 2011, 05:39:20 AM
Captured the event well there Dave.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2011, 01:36:43 PM
The Great Orme Tramway seems to be going backwards (not literally) in terms of its financial performance:

In 2008/9, it had a turnover of £620,000 and a Profit of £30,000
In 2009/10, it had a turnover of £710,000 and a Profit of £21,000

All figures from:
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/430/200910_Statement_of_Accounts_postaudit.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/430/200910_Statement_of_Accounts_postaudit.pdf)
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Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
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The Great Orme Tramway seems to be going backwards (not literally) in terms of its financial performance:

In 2008/9, it had a turnover of £620,000 and a Profit of £30,000
In 2009/10, it had a turnover of £710,000 and a Profit of £21,000

If all they can make on £620,00 is a measly 5% (approx), and 3% (approx) on £710,000 someone needs firing!   Was there exceptional overheads those years, or was it just damn bad management?   I feel a FoI request coming on!     D)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2011, 03:49:48 PM
they did have some accident repairs to do in the winter of 2009 / 2010 and if I remember correctly they stopped running after the accident on the upper section
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Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2011, 04:44:50 PM
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they did have some accident repairs to do in the winter of 2009 / 2010 and if I remember correctly they stopped running after the accident on the upper section
Surely their turnover would have fallen then, not increased?  ???
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
it's the only thing I can think of that was different, without seeing their accounts we can only speculate. As a business the profit seems very poor, but with a tramway lots of maintenance will be needed, I'm just very pleased that it's running at all  D)  I do wish that there was a discount for locals or a season ticket available

 
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Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2011, 06:20:31 PM
Become a Councillor you can also get Theatre tickets then!.  Get on the Theatre Committee and they then throw in a few lot of drinks.     $angry$
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Post by: wrex on April 11, 2011, 10:06:19 PM
 :) Yorkie,behave. 8)
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Post by: Yorkie on April 12, 2011, 08:11:10 AM
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:) Yorkie,behave. 8)

You know it's true - and also you get free drinkies after many of the Full Council Meetings, if you just hang back a bit instead of dashing off home!   I have seen a few Councillors come out of the Town Hall a little the worse for wear.   Have a look at the booze bill for the year ...---... Ah! just realised that's a bit difficult as it is "hidden" in the Petty Cash Account!    D) 

Yorkie knows, yer know!   _))*
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Post by: Nemesis on April 12, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
Surveyers at the Clarence this afternoon.
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 02:48:09 PM
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Surveyers at the Clarence this afternoon.
Hmmmm...Travelodge....Wetherlodge...Premier Travel Inn....?  8)
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Post by: Nemesis on April 12, 2011, 02:53:52 PM
Falling down into Arvon Ave?  ;D
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Post by: wrex on April 12, 2011, 05:41:49 PM
 8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ
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Post by: Trojan on April 12, 2011, 06:22:20 PM
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8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ

Maybe Boots the Chemist has some ointment Wrex.  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
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8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ
They were still there at about 5.45 when I went past....
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Post by: Trojan on April 12, 2011, 06:45:53 PM
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8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ
They were still there at about 5.45 when I went past....

Alright then......where's the photo?  :D
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 11:22:11 PM
No photos, I'm afraid!  :laugh:

The THV Patricia appeared off the end of Llandudno Pier this afternoon, to carry out some work on navigation buoys. Quite a large ship:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2929219351_43916e4c30_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewfield/2929219351/)
THV Patricia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewfield/2929219351/#) by kate&amp;drew (http://www.flickr.com/people/drewfield/), on Flickr
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Post by: Nemesis on April 13, 2011, 02:24:39 PM
Still surveying outside the Clarence.
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Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 02:26:16 PM
Such a detailed survey can only be for major work... 8)
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Post by: Nemesis on April 13, 2011, 02:28:02 PM
Hope so -- the place is a wreck.
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Post by: wrex on April 13, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
 ;D Once again Oscar seems to be more interested in politics rather than what is happening next door at the Clarence,six months ago it would have been big news on thoughts of Oscar,now not even a mention,i think he has given up on whats going on and just chasing Conservatives. :-*
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Post by: Trojan on April 13, 2011, 07:14:36 PM
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;D Once again Oscar seems to be more interested in politics rather than what is happening next door at the Clarence,six months ago it would have been big news on thoughts of Oscar,now not even a mention,i think he has given up on whats going on and just chasing Conservatives. :-*

Relax....I've just made a phone call.  :D
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Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 07:26:37 PM
I think it is positive news regarding the Clarence.   ;)
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Post by: Trojan on April 13, 2011, 10:27:18 PM
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I think it is positive news regarding the Clarence.   ;)

Hmmmm, that impeccable source again eh?  D)
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Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2011, 08:50:23 AM
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I think it is positive news regarding the Clarence.   ;)

Hmmmm, that impeccable source again eh?  D)
That's the one.....  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2011, 11:12:08 AM
A local Estate Agent has confirmed that Travelodge have secured a site in Llandudno. May be the Clarence but that is not confirmed.  $walesflag$
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Post by: Fester on April 15, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
Its one of those blissful, still evenings in Llandudno tonight..
Made even more heavenly by a few ''buy one get one free'' drinks in the newly re-furbished FatCat Bar with Dave R.

Its also nice to see that the Empire Hotel have properly prepared the outdoor pool area for the coming season. (see below)
I used to love it there on my many visits, and it brings back fond memories.

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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:27:16 PM
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Made even more heavenly by a few ''buy one get one free'' drinks in the newly re-furbished FatCat Bar with Dave R.
You beat me to it!  :o Yes, the Fat Cat is only half finished but it was nonetheless open and serving fine food and drink. Busy as well, lots of finely dressed ladies there.  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:30:50 PM
Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?
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Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2011, 08:32:18 PM
Could be the Bass Festival.   Fishy business,
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Post by: Fester on April 15, 2011, 08:33:27 PM
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Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?

 :o :o  There's a beach at North Shore now?? 
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:34:35 PM
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Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?

 :o :o  There's a beach at North Shore now?? 
To paraphrase Basil Fawlty...Yes, you'll find it between the Sea and the Promenade...  L0L
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Post by: norman08 on April 15, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
must have been loads of burst pipes  in town today  never seen so many welsh water vans
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Post by: Fester on April 15, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
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Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?

 :o :o  There's a beach at North Shore now?? 
To paraphrase Basil Fawlty...Yes, you'll find it between the Sea and the Promenade...  L0L

...and thats the Beach then is it?
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:48:28 PM
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...and thats the Beach then is it?
That's the one....
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/27621337_43b0a80dfe_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/27621337/)
Llandudno Promenade, Llandudno, North Wales (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/27621337/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
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must have been loads of burst pipes  in town today  never seen so many welsh water vans

It looked to me as if they may have had a meeting in Venue Cymru this morniing.
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Post by: Blongb on April 15, 2011, 10:51:13 PM
It was a meeting this afternoon Bri, the Welsh Tories launched their manifesto for the May election to the Welsh Assembly. Their candidate is Janet Finch-Saunders
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Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2011, 06:28:27 PM
The Land Train, Vintage Bus and Open Top Tour Bus were all lined up at the Pier gates this afternoon:
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Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
It was a beautiful sunny day in Llandudno and the prom was packed with people. As I was driving along I could see a lot of Porsche cars on the prom so I hope someone from the Forum has taken a few photos to go on here.    :)
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Post by: Fester on April 17, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
Tonight after work, it was an idyllic evening, so Mrs Fester and I packed a bottle of wine and a picnic in the rucksack and off we went.

We walked up to the Orme summit, and then accross to Angelsea Road back via the narrow paths high up above Lys Helig Drive.

As the sun set, we were counting our blessings, and I took these pictures of the sun going down from the vantage point of our picnic spot.

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Post by: Pendragon on April 17, 2011, 09:18:54 PM
We are so lucky living in the area we do.  I'd hate to live in a city, I really would.  Nice pics Fester  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on April 18, 2011, 12:06:53 AM
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We are so lucky living in the area we do.  I'd hate to live in a city, I really would.  Nice pics Fester  ;D

I agree, I just can't stand living in a city.  :-[
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Post by: Trojan on April 18, 2011, 12:07:38 AM
 ;D
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Post by: DaveR on April 18, 2011, 08:13:54 AM
Did you take those pics, Trojan?
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Post by: hollins on April 18, 2011, 10:21:22 AM
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Tonight after work, it was an idyllic evening, so Mrs Fester and I packed a bottle of wine and a picnic in the rucksack and off we went.

We walked up to the Orme summit, and then accross to Angelsea Road back via the narrow paths high up above Lys Helig Drive.

As the sun set, we were counting our blessings, and I took these pictures of the sun going down from the vantage point of our picnic spot.



How romantic!
I hope you have had some good business in this lovely weather we have been enjoying.
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 18, 2011, 11:50:35 AM
Can anyone tell me how any body seems to be able to come in to Mostyn Street and sing/play/yell without being moved on?  in London you have to have a street performers licence but here it seems anyone can appear and launch forth. Last week some over amplified woman was screeching outside Jessops.  Today a bloke is playing the bagpipes outside St. John's church. No one seems to come and move them on.  Back in the day we had two bye laws inspectors, do you remember them?  Couldn't put any displays outside shops beyond the verandah etc. etc.

Llandudno used to be so nice.
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Post by: Pendragon on April 18, 2011, 11:59:50 AM
 _))* are you referring to that old lady accompanied by the little Pug dog that sits on a blanket thoroughly unimpressed.  Or the other guy who reminds me of Father Francis by Marks.  :o
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 18, 2011, 12:06:55 PM
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  Today a bloke is playing the bagpipes outside St. John's church.

Hmm... wasn't Yorkie looking for a Scottish costume a few weeks ago.............. ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2011, 12:37:58 PM
Yes I was!   Got the whole works - tried it all on - and decided I looked like a poor version of a Scottish , haggis eating, caber tosser - a tosser anyway!     L0L    As much as I like haggis, I decided it wasn't for me so the whole lot went back and my bank balance benefitted from the refund.  
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 18, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
 L0L L0L  so it wasn't you with the bagpipes then?  :D
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Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
The perfect Tosser!   L0L

Caber Tossing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujpfCRpqkFs#)
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Post by: dwsi on April 18, 2011, 10:09:38 PM
Huge skip fire outside Llandudno Police Station tonight
http://yfrog.com/h4orhynj (http://yfrog.com/h4orhynj)
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Post by: Trojan on April 18, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
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Did you take those pics, Trojan?

No, I didn't take them.
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 19, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
No the lady with the dof plays the keyboards and Ian whatsit sings - both badly but I've got used to them and I assume that as they are nearly alweays here that they are local.  The woman singing was so loud it was awful and as for the b***** bagpuipes sounds like a cat being castrated.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 19, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
Ah! That would explain why for the last couple of days our cat has been looking very concerned every time I go in the knife draw. Noise travels incredibly far round here I'm in the garden and it sounds like guy with the bagpipes is right next to me. 
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Post by: Nemesis on April 19, 2011, 04:04:53 PM
OMg Bagpipes always make me need the loo--- shall have to avoid going into Town ;D
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 20, 2011, 11:42:26 AM
 ;D
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Post by: STDH on April 20, 2011, 03:28:15 PM
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Several of the town's miscreants were caged this afternoon at the pier entrance in aid of St. Davids Hospice and were only released when they had raised enough money for the charity. Amongst those visible are the Pier Manager, Conservative AM candidate Janet Finch-Saunders, The Manager of the Imperial Hotel, The Manager of Bodyshop, The Headmaster of Ysgol San Sior, The Manager of the Afon Conwy, The Mayor of Llandudno... Fair play to them all for being sporting enough to take part.
http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/ (http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/)
Correction : The Manager of Imperial Hotel wasn't present, it was the Manager of The Marine Hotel, Llandudno ( Marcus Williams)
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 21, 2011, 11:49:37 AM
Oh god, that over-amplified screeching woman is back.  Cuurently being blasted out of my seat in the library.  Why does no one stop her what a racket.  AND she has been singing tenor arias too.  hmm.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 21, 2011, 08:57:18 PM
Apparently roadside parking in Llandudno is now absolutely FREE.   All you have to do is speak nicely to the Traffic Wardens or whatever they call them nowadays.  That is if you can find one.   Just think of a simple reason such as you are going to the loo, loading, unloading, have no change, waiting for your aged parent, left your Blue Badge at home etc etc. Any simple excuse will probably work. 

 It seems that more than one of the Wardens are "unavailable" at the moment and the ones left are not too keen on punching numbers into their machines, thats just too much like hard work and can result in a severe case of repetitive finger injury..

This possibly accounts for the traffic chaos we have seen in the Town of late and a large reduction in Penalty Charge Notices.   ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on April 22, 2011, 12:36:24 AM
Yorkie, are we talking about the first wave of CCBC cuts?  Is it a deliberate (but non-advertised) bonus?
Are we talking about staffing problems?   Or is it once again a case of gross mis-management.

Please elaborate.

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Post by: Yorkie on April 22, 2011, 08:53:45 AM
Nothing to do with cuts - they wouldn't be so daft as to cut off a revenue stream would they?

Just seems that more drivers are getting away with illegal parking and Wardens are possibly turning a blind eye.    There also seems to be a slight reduction as some Wardens have not been seen on the streets for some time, maybe they have retired but then we would see their replacements.   Funny old World.    :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 01:15:58 PM
Currently long delays on the prom at craig y don, some poor person has been knocked over outside regency royal hotel and traffic is one lane.
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 07:34:20 PM
Very busy indeed in Llandudno today, perfect start to the Season:
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Post by: Ian on April 23, 2011, 07:43:23 AM
That last photo could have been taken in the '50s.  Great sight.
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Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2011, 09:03:15 AM
Definitely great to see. It looked like a day in the middle of August:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5029/5644173232_1bc49e7ff8_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5644173232/)
Busy, Busy, Busy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5644173232/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: wrex on April 23, 2011, 06:38:57 PM
 :o Read some disturbing news on the coach drivers club forum about our coach park,the council have taken away the security guard and coaches have been broken into on 3 consecutive nights,why is the camera not catching them ,the police watching ,and CCBC NOT CARING ABOUT TOURISM.The posting was put up on the 23 april so very recent problem.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 23, 2011, 07:09:48 PM
The County Parking Manager left recently and I believe that he has not been replaced, but another staff member put in charge.  Also 2 of the outside Parking Staff are "off" for some reason other than holidays etc.

Break ins of coaches has always been a problem as long as I have known, as entry to the Builder Street park is possible out of sight of the guard, especially at night.
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Post by: Trojan on April 23, 2011, 10:17:22 PM
Perhaps the DDS (Dudno Death Squad were responsible?

After all, Maesdu Park is just a.......stones throw away.  8)

http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/page/7/?pages-list (http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/page/7/?pages-list)

Running with the wrong crew

Llandudno, the Queen of Resorts, has been besieged by a spate of Juvenile Delinquency. In an attempt to explain the problems everyone has their theory; “Disgusted of Craig-Y-Don” blames the lack of national service. “Outraged of West Shore” blames immigrants from Conwy, Save Our Scenery blames the impending Wind Farm.

In an effort to understand the problem Llandudno’s premier TV Channel, the Llandudno Broadcasting Corporation, sent their intrepid reporter to interview the leading members of Llandudno FC’s notorious firm; the “Dudno Death Squad” (DDS). Here is a transcript of the interview.

“(Cue panning panoramic shot of Llandudno Bay)

(Voiceover from Interviewer over footage): “Llandudno has always been “The Queen of Welsh Resorts” but now…

(Pull out to see Interviewer standing by Camera Obscura, interviewer adopts judgemental tone)

“…..something is rotten. The Dudno Death Squad have been running amok”

(Cut to Interviewer interviewing DDS’S “Top Boy”  Johnny X – Pixelated for anonymity)

Interviewer: “So, how do you feel about being singled out by people regarding the recent trouble in Llandudno?”

Top Boy: “Well we can’t do much about what people think but it’s sound that we’ve got a rep, like.”

Interviewer: “Do you feel in any way shameful about what’s happened”

Top Boy: “Nah mate, it’s sound”

Interviewer: “Could you tell us about some of the incidents you’ve been involved with?”

Top Boy: “We don’t like our end to be taken so we try to defend the honour of our town. We’ve seen ‘em all off. Denbigh, Holyhead, Flint. The naughtiest firm we’ve come up against was Lex 11, respect to them, they went toe to toe and didn’t give it toes, big respect. Most firms give it the big one, all mouth. They arrange an off and don’t show. It’s up to them to meet us, we’re the top boys around here. The most fun we’ve had has been in away games”

Interviewer: “Could you give us a few examples?”

Top Boy:” There was one good tear up I can tell you about. We were away at Mynydd Isa. We had good numbers, all 6 of us had turned up. We started to chant about them being interbreeding mongs and living in slums. They didn’t like this obviously, and we faced off. They charged us but we held our ground. Then we charged them and we ran ‘em. The Interbreeders gave it toes. We’d taken their end and we were kings!!”

Interviewer: “A few people don’t seem to fear you…”

Top Boy: “What you talking about, who doesn’t fear us? You’re joking!”

Interviewer: “Well some people we’ve spoken to have said that you’re not proper hooligans, you’re just kids who’ve just watched Green Street and the Football Factory a lot. They say that you’ve just copied the phrases in it”

Top Boy: “That’s bollocks. Yes we have watched them a lot of times but they’re good films. We’ve read all the Hooli-books too. My favourite is “Running with the Really Naughty Crew” by Yeovil’s top boy, it’s so life like. Anyway you shouldn’t listen to other people, the Interbreeders have been chatting doggy doos on the internet about us. They’re just jealous of us, jealous of our reputation as North Wales’ finest. How can you say we’re not proper hooligans? Look at our clothes, we’re proper casuals.”

Interviewer: “What do you mean by “Casuals” “?

Top Boy;They’re just boys that like dressing for matches. Look at our labels, top notch clobber; McKenzie, Carlotti, Nike, Regatta. We were the first dressers in North Wales, everyone is jealous so they start rumours. The thing about casuals is that you’ve got to be one step ahead; We’ve heard about this clobber called “Rock Island” or something, it’s dead hard to get and we’ll be the first to wear this in North Wales, you’ve got to stay ahead”

(Cut to Interviewer standing by Camera Obscura, interviewer adopts judgemental tone): There you have it, unrepentant and unashamed. The Dudno Death Squad.

Now you may have been hearing a lot about Goats breaking and entering into gardens, here’s Derek Smalls with a report…”


 _))*
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Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2011, 08:47:50 AM
David Curtis captured this great shot over on West Shore:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/5646731816_57a11154e2_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24433707@N08/5646731816/)
Suspended-animation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24433707@N08/5646731816/#) by David_Curtis (http://www.flickr.com/people/24433707@N08/), on Flickr
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Post by: Fester on April 24, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
?????? What's great about a shot containing road signs and supermarket polybags?????

I think a truly GREAT shot is one which either evokes emotion, or makes one reach it inot thier pocket to buy for the living room wall.

I think Flickr is a case of The Emperors New Clothes !


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Post by: suepp on April 24, 2011, 09:30:42 AM
The goats on the ledge looking up to the oblivious passers by with their supermarket bags and contemporary clothes, the road sign a clue to the surroundings that the photo doesn't show, The car passengers pausing to look at the view inches away from their car, nice social comment for the 21st century ! or unwitting testimony that in years to come will have people debating the make and model of the car and wondering what happened to the building!  ;)
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Post by: Ian on April 24, 2011, 09:48:12 AM
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I think a truly GREAT shot is one which either evokes emotion, or makes one reach it inot thier pocket to buy for the living room wall.

But surely that's going to be different for everyone?
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Post by: suepp on April 24, 2011, 10:07:42 AM
FlickR isn't just a showcase for clever photographers, there are snapshots with little artistic or aesthetic appeal but which capture the moment, just like the family albums we all have.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2011, 05:48:44 PM
What's Llandudno like now?--Busy !
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Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
Nice to meet you again today, Nem. You beat me to it with that particular pic, so I will contribute one taken from the top of the Little Orme this morning:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5649947053_a00d9404d5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5649947053/)
Sweep of Llandudno Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5649947053/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: suepp on April 24, 2011, 10:25:34 PM
stunning &well&
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Post by: Fester on April 25, 2011, 12:59:53 AM
Not bad Dave... better than goats, supermarket polybags and roadsigns anyway ... Hmmm   $cool$
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Post by: Jas on April 25, 2011, 08:44:59 AM
Lovely Photo Dave .I have friends coming to visit from Aussie next month & have sent them a copy to give them a foretaste of what they will see here. Jas
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Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
Nice to chat again Dave, I did venture onto the first bit of the pier--mad fool that I am, but was glad to get home !
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Post by: Micox on April 25, 2011, 04:02:11 PM
Hey Trojan.

LBC left out the Llanerchymedd Loyalists who decend from the hills to savage the DDS - or they used to on Saturday nights at the Winter Gardens!  <:<:<:<  $bounce$  $angry1$
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Post by: Trojan on April 25, 2011, 04:24:35 PM
Yes, but they could never get past John 'Concho' Davies from the CPC (Cwm Place Catholics), on the door at Paynes Cafe Royal though.  ZXZ
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Post by: TheMedz on April 27, 2011, 06:40:53 PM
A fire on Augusta St this afternoon. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13216112 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13216112)
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Post by: wrex on April 27, 2011, 09:23:58 PM
 :o Who ever has taken over the Oscar roll is obsessed with polotics,i used to enjoy hearing things about Llandudno and whats going on,but all you get now is BORING polotics,come back the REAL Oscar. ZXZ
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Post by: Pendragon on April 27, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
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:o Who ever has taken over the Oscar roll is obsessed with polotics,i used to enjoy hearing things about Llandudno and whats going on,but all you get now is BORING polotics,come back the REAL Oscar. ZXZ
Wrex I absolutely agree.  I have never kept secret the fact I know naff all about politics.  Oscar used to involve at least one other local issue in his blog.  Now I have a look, see more politics again and immediately switch off. Where is he?   
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Post by: Nemesis on April 27, 2011, 09:54:48 PM
Have just had a quick look---------see what you mean.
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Post by: Fester on April 27, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
I prefer OSCAR when he persectutes local misfits and ne'er do well's.   I can join in then... and its funny!

With politicians, I find that over the years, they all seem to blend in and sound just like each other.

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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 02:38:17 PM
*Road Closure Notice*
Mostyn Street from North Western Gardens to Trinity Square West and all side roads around Trinity Church (trinity west, east, south) will be closed from midnight tonight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
Parts of central Mostyn Street will be closed overnight from 7pm to 7am, for two nights starting 4th May, to allow resurfacing work to take place.
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Post by: Bellringer on April 28, 2011, 04:58:13 PM
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*Road Closure Notice*
Mostyn Street from North Western Gardens to Trinity Square West and all side roads around Trinity Church (trinity west, east, south) will be closed from midnight tonight.

BUT THERE WILL STILL BE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE CHURCH AND ITS CAR PARK FROM THE SOUTH AT THE REAR OF THE CHURCH ie from the direction of Vaughan Street along Charlton Street, and from the lights at the top of Trinity Avenue/Augusta Atreet.
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Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2011, 02:12:56 PM
Feels a bit odd in Mostyn Street at the moment, lots of people but only the odd car so it is much quieter than usual. Must have felt like this in Victorian times.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 29, 2011, 06:45:29 PM
I need to go parental visiting and get onto the A55 either around 10am tomorrow morning or afternoon around 3pm. Any suggestions re what the best way out onto the A55 from the Orme will be tomorrow at these times ? I'm currently thinking of  turning right at the Empire and then onto Church Walks or Abbey Road going over the railway bridge and out? Any alternative suggestions gratefully accepted.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 29, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
I would stick with you what you propose and I doubt if you will have much difficulty.
 
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Post by: Micox on April 29, 2011, 07:17:03 PM
 ;D "Parts of central Mostyn Street will be closed overnight from 7pm to 7am, for two nights starting 4th May, to allow resurfacing work to take place."

What, after they've buried Kate and William?  WWW $walesflag$
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Post by: Ian on April 29, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
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I'm currently thinking of  turning right at the Empire and then onto Church Walks or Abbey Road going over the railway bridge and out?

The trickiest bit is Gloddaeth Ave if they have the transport parade at that time.  But I doubt 10 or 3 will be that bad.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2011, 09:39:11 PM
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I need to go parental visiting and get onto the A55 either around 10am tomorrow morning or afternoon around 3pm. Any suggestions re what the best way out onto the A55 from the Orme will be tomorrow at these times ? I'm currently thinking of  turning right at the Empire and then onto Church Walks or Abbey Road going over the railway bridge and out? Any alternative suggestions gratefully accepted.

So long as you use Church Walks or Abbey Road at the times you suggest and you are prepared to joust for a passing place you should be OK.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 29, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
At 10.00 you could go round Marine Drive, along West Shore and then into Bryniau Road.
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Post by: Fester on April 29, 2011, 11:59:55 PM
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;D "Parts of central Mostyn Street will be closed overnight from 7pm to 7am, for two nights starting 4th May, to allow resurfacing work to take place."

What, after they've buried Kate and William?  WWW $walesflag$

Mean spirited Micox,  very mean spirited.
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Post by: wrex on April 30, 2011, 07:53:43 AM
 8) Im very interested in CCBC approach to the coach situation in town,we know they have scrapped security and now the gates have to be left open due to the death of a young boy with simlar gates in Manchester,god nows where they are putting all the daytrip coaches this weekend because they have filled Builders st with ccbc skips and veichles.I know they are refitting the tin shed on Broadway but if it is not open why have they not put temporay units there for this weekend,i know CCBC put all their efforts and resources into Colwyn Bay Prom day and charge Llandudno for it. If any one gets a chance especially on sunday and Monday drive past Builders st mid afternoon too see where these coaches park im baffled unless they send them out of town somewhere. Z**
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Post by: wrex on April 30, 2011, 08:01:26 AM
 ;) Don;t forget that ther is a special steam engine pulling into Llandudno station at lunch time bringing extravaganza supporters into town from the West Midlands,actually i think it is being pulled by two steam engines,how nice that will look. Z**
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Post by: Ian on April 30, 2011, 08:05:02 AM
How's it all going, Wrex?  Any problems?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 30, 2011, 09:08:10 AM
wrex, coaches usually park free all day in either the disused Halfords car park or in the cul-de-sac by the fire exit of Queen Elizabeth Court.

I cannot understand why CCBC cannot hold their Prom Day in Colwyn Bay on Whit Monday when there is never anything on.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 30, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
BTW, Colwyn Bay are playing FC United in the Evo-stik play-off final at 3pm on Monday afternoon with a full house of 2,000 spectators expected.

With that and the Colwyn Bay Prom Day, it will be very busy over there.
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Post by: wrex on May 01, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
 ZXZ Packed too the rafters ,that;s what LLandudno like right now,and how nice too see. Z**
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Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 06:10:01 PM
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ZXZ Packed too the rafters ,that;s what LLandudno like right now,and how nice too see. Z**
I was saying just the same thing to a local shop owner yesterday.  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on May 01, 2011, 09:25:09 PM
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BTW, Colwyn Bay are playing FC United in the Evo-stik play-off final at 3pm on Monday afternoon with a full house of 2,000 spectators expected.

With that and the Colwyn Bay Prom Day, it will be very busy over there.

Sounds like it will be a good game. I bet they'll be stuck like glue to their seats.  8)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2011, 09:42:39 PM
 L0L  get a grip man  ;D
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L0L  get a grip man  ;D

I think we've just bonded Merddyn.  Z**
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Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
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;) Don;t forget that ther is a special steam engine pulling into Llandudno station at lunch time bringing extravaganza supporters into town from the West Midlands,actually i think it is being pulled by two steam engines,how nice that will look. Z**

Someone raised the subject of how the steam trains turn round.
My very knowledgeable neighbour has furnished me with this info.

It was simpler in the old days they would go to the turntable
 

Yes they have to go to Holyhead where there is a system for them to go in a loop to come back.

 

On Saturday the 2 steam loco’s were pulling the train to Junction.   At Junction one was released and placed at the end of the train so on arrival at Llandudno – one loco pulling and one at the back pushing.

 

The one at the back reversed out of Llandudno with the carriages the one at the front reversed to a set of points onto another line.   Then the carriages were pushed back into Llandudno and the 2 loco’s went off to Holyhead and round the loop – facing the Junction.    At Junction they would then reverse to Llandudno to attach to the carriages.     So when they left they were both pulling the carriages.

 

With a diesel they have a driving cab at each end. 

 

A friend who loves ‘diesels’ calls these steam trains ‘kettles’ and on the way back to the West Midland they caused 6 lineside fires.

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Post by: Llechwedd on May 03, 2011, 01:17:07 PM
Gosh han't it gone quiet?
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2011, 12:06:05 PM
I'm sitting on the balcony outside Ski Llandudno having lunch - it's lovely and sunny up here, with a great view across the bay. Llandudno is a great town on days like this.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
Man's body recovered from sea off Great Orme, Conwy

The body of a man has been found in the sea off the Conwy coast.

It was recovered from waters off the Great Orme in Llandudno by an RAF Valley rescue helicopter and lifeboat crew on Sunday afternoon.

Holyhead Coastguards were alerted by the crew of a boat at 1250 BST.

North Wales Police are investigating to identify the man and discover how he came to be in the water. His body has been taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd, Bangor.

A spokesperson for Holyhead Coastguards said they were not looking for anyone missing in the area at the time.

An inquest will be held in due course.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13327811 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13327811)
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Post by: wrex on May 08, 2011, 06:11:04 PM
 ;)Great views ,lovely town, the main reason WE all strive to keep it going in all weathers,
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Post by: wrex on May 11, 2011, 10:38:33 PM
 :'( I do hope that i have got this wrong but im sure i have read that  Rhos has just had its beach replenished with new sand,TAKE A LOOK AT THE NORTH SHORE CCBC. $angry$
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Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2011, 05:01:23 PM
I was passing through Llandudno earlier and noticed an Arriva bus parked outside HMV with its hazard lights flashing. There were several Arriva staff on board and a couple of Police, along with a Police car and van parked alongside. No idea what was going on but possibly some sort of fight/disturbance maybe?
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Post by: Nemesis on May 16, 2011, 05:41:10 PM
Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !
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Post by: Fester on May 16, 2011, 06:33:29 PM
It caused gridlock, right back to the roundabout at Hooson's corner.
Coaches and cars were backed up along Gloddaeth, and I had to go to Asda via Modoc St.
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Post by: Trojan on May 17, 2011, 01:33:17 AM
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Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !

If she went to ASDA to buy the milk then I would have to agree with you. Quite a trek from the town centre.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 17, 2011, 11:03:37 AM
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Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !

If she went to ASDA to buy the milk then I would have to agree with you. Quite a trek from the town centre.

Poundland actually !
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Post by: Trojan on May 17, 2011, 05:17:55 PM
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Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !

If she went to ASDA to buy the milk then I would have to agree with you. Quite a trek from the town centre.

Poundland actually !

 :laugh:
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Post by: ormegolf on May 17, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
Is Poundland the same as "every thing a pound" ?  If so, how much milk do you get for a pound, I pay around 48p for a little one, then about 87p then I dont know but I suppose £1-50. Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on May 18, 2011, 02:26:23 PM
Think she gets a 4 pinter for £1---- same price as it was on offer in Asda this morning.
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Post by: JasonW on May 18, 2011, 04:04:09 PM
I've just returned from a consultation event at Llandudno Swimming Pool regarding the Shorline Management Plan.
The event is now open to the Public until 8pm this evening.
Well worth attending, deals with West Shore and westwards, but does show the future is not bright for Llandudno (and other areas of the Conwy Estuary route). (infact the forum name would probably need to change unless serious consideration is taken to the plans).
In the words of the Consultant, if Llandudno was not so important in terms of economics and housing, then the decision would be just to let the sea reclaim it.
The other issue with Llandudno is not as easy as building sea walls, as the sea level increases will come from beneath the town, not nescessary from the coast. We have a fair few years until this point but the plans do need some thought on how we deal with the threat. West Shore being an interesting point, should we allow nature to take its on course and create a natural defence.

Following is extract from poster:
Shoreline Management Plan, Llandudno Swimming Pool
Public consultation event on the second generation of Shoreline Management Plans that affects Conwy's coastline between Llanfairfechan and the Great Orme, Llandudno
Public Exhibition is open from 3pm, with regular presentations by Consultants, Royal Haskoning about the SMP with time for open discussions/questions.
The West of Wales Shoreline Management Plan (SMP) provides a high level strategy for managing flood and erosion risk for the coastline between St Anne's Head, at the entrance to Milford Haven and the Great Orme.
The Plan assesses these risks to people and the developed, historic and natural environment. It considers the immediate risks and how management of this risk can be developed in to the future in a sustainable manner, to ensure that this does not tie future generations to costly and unsustainable management. Although the Plan focuses on management of risks and defences, it has to take account of the broader issues of coastal management. It provides a framework with which opportunities for broader management can be considered and aims to provide the foundation for balanced management of other issues relating to the coastal area.
The draft SMP2 documents are available for review on the SMP website www.westofwalessmp.org (http://www.westofwalessmp.org) www.westofwalessmp.org (http://www.westofwalessmp.org), where you can also provide comments.

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Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2011, 02:41:21 PM
*reads report and makes note not to buy any property in Llandudno*  :o
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 20, 2011, 03:53:05 PM
I've not read the report, but before we bought our property in Penrhyn Bay we rejected several as a result of looking at the flood map!

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Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
I noticed that one of the empty shops in Madoc Street has been taken and is to become ACME Games.
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Post by: Paddy on May 21, 2011, 03:12:52 AM
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I noticed that one of the empty shops in Madoc Street has been taken and is to become ACME Games.

Dave, they used to be next to Molly's Cafe on Augusta St. so that unit is now empty!
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Post by: wrex on May 21, 2011, 08:54:57 AM
  :) It is nice to see all the big works going on in Colwyn Bay,it needs regenerating so good luck,what alarmed me was the plans for their railway station as ours is still not finalised,i have a horrible feeling that Llandudno;s station is going to be sacrificed to the fund the Bays new station. :-[
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Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 10:58:39 AM
It's utter chaos in town at the moment - nobody has any idea which way they are supposed to go by car. Roads seem to be closed entirely at random, people are just driving around trying to work out which way they are supposed to go. This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.
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Post by: wrex on May 22, 2011, 11:32:41 AM
 :)Just had a little stroll down the prom,i noticed that our little patch of beach by the cenotaph is still covered in stones ,seaweed and litter,while sat in the CCBC HUT NEXT TO THE CENOTAPH is a member of CCBC staff reading a paper ,what a shame he does;nt have a rack then he could rack that small patch each morning looking for litter,glass etc.There is no will power with CCBC to look after the North shore,pour some West Shore sand on our beach and not R O S LIKE THEY HAVE.Does anyone remember CCBC buying a machine too clean the beaches at a great cost to us,where is it ? :rage:   
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Post by: Ian on May 22, 2011, 11:44:28 AM
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This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.

I'm not sure organisation and Cabinet decisions occupy any mutual ground. In fact, to judge from today, I suspect the entire concept of organisation is anathema to the council cabinet.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 22, 2011, 01:37:40 PM
Just returned from a stroll as far as the middle of the pier. The whole place is chaos, I counted about 3 people on the prom, not many on the pier and the town is jammed with motorists being turned back and forth. One man got out of his car by the Empire and said to the marshall standing there "How the F***** ing H*** am I supposed to get out of this god-forsaken place". Excellent for tourism :roll:
Poor Fester is twiddling his thumbs in his shop-- perhaps a claim to the Council for loss of buisness could be the order of the day !!

I can see a punch up before today is over. These race people haven't a clue what they are doing . >>>
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 22, 2011, 01:54:07 PM
sounds like the same organisers who tried organising a drinking session in a brewery ;D
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Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 02:58:24 PM
Looking at the race route, you do have to wonder how anyone thought it could not cause major disruption in the town? We did predict it on here after all! Surely CCBC must have looked at the proposed route and said "Sorry, you'll have to rethink this, it will cause too much disruption'? There certainly needs to be a major rethink before any similar race is allowed again.
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Post by: TheMedz on May 22, 2011, 08:02:45 PM
Nice weather currently but the met office have issued a "be aware" warning for Northern England and Wales for tomorrow (it was "be prepared" and for Tuesday morning as well but they've scaled it down a bit) and we are just on the southern edge so keep your fingers crossed.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html?day=2 (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html?day=2)
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Post by: Fester on May 22, 2011, 09:57:22 PM
With regard to the Race event today... after 5 fruitless hours supposedly 'working', I finally admitted defeat and asked Mrs Fester to drive down and pick me up to go home.

Well, that was as stressful as anything else has been today.

She tried to get from Asda to the Pier, a half hour nightmare... during which she encountered many 'road rage' type incidents of people going berserk at Marshalls and each other.

Then, as we tried to go up Ty Gwyn road...(our only route home) ..a Marshall said, 'Sorry, you can't go up there..please park up over there''

After getting the sharp end of my tongue...Mrs F had no choice but to blatantly ignore him... and drive up Ty Gwyn Road.

Today was a write-off business wise (at least for many) .. and an unmitigated disaster in terms of organisation.


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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 22, 2011, 10:16:21 PM
I was wondering why these runners coudn't have run several times up and down the promenade to avoid road closures?
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Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2011, 08:15:23 AM
Good point!
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Post by: Llechwedd on May 23, 2011, 12:50:57 PM
As this town drpends on tourism why on earth wssn't the Tourist Information Office open on Sunday?  There were piles of confused people going up to the Library doors and walking away disgusted.  You'd think in the summer they would open. :(
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 23, 2011, 02:35:15 PM
Re the running event, i noticed that the Great Orme tour bus was closed as a result of the running, do they get compensated for loss of trade I wonder?
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Post by: Ian on May 23, 2011, 02:48:29 PM
I don't think so.  Neither do the cafes on the specific routes - such as the Orme Drive itself.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 23, 2011, 04:54:51 PM
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As this town drpends on tourism why on earth wssn't the Tourist Information Office open on Sunday?  There were piles of confused people going up to the Library doors and walking away disgusted.  You'd think in the summer they would open. :(

We found that out a couple of weeks ago when we urgently wanted a list of available accommodation in Llandudno.

With the Tourist Information Office being in such a prominent position, it makes sense to keep it open on Sundays.

In fact, I was left wondering if it was closed on Saturdays as well.

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Post by: Blodyn on May 23, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Sorry to hear that business was so bad on Sunday, Fester.  We could see from the Great Orme how quiet the pier was. 

In the evening I was talking to a gentleman who's a regular visitor to Llandudno.  He'd come to the town on Sunday with no special plans and was standing by the road waiting to see what was going on, when one of the race officials roped him in as a marshall.  He then spent two hours standing on a corner directing runners and traffic but fortunately did not seem to have suffered any abuse for his good deed. 

Regarding the Tourist Information Office, I think that it's open when the library is, so it should be open Saturday mornings.  I thoroughly agree that a TIO in a tourist town should be open all weekend. 
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Post by: ormegolf on May 23, 2011, 09:21:20 PM
After 30 or so years you would have thought the message would have got through to local government that if you offer a tourist service in a tourist service area, that you need to be open when you are needed. i.e. bank holidays, weekends etc. Not a Wednesday morning in the first week of February.   Why do I say 30 years? Well probably the first, and worst, example. Politically a new look, Thatcher and all that. The Lowther, a private girls school in Bodelwyddan, had closed. So, partially to preserve the building, the Council (I imagine Clwyd) decided to dip their toes in the murky waters of commercialism. They bought it. Big fanfairs of trumpets. In October. Spent all winter working on making it into a tourist attraction. Renamed Bodelwyddan Castle.  What excitement when it opened on April second. Two weeks later, what a storm of abuse. Easter came and went, visitors scrambled to have a look at this new attraction, but, what happened. It was closed.
     At the inquest afterwards the Council said that all their employees from top to bottom took it for granted that they worked a 9 - 5 5day week, and definately off on Bank holidays. Bodelwyddan Castle was now council owned and operated and in never occured to ANYONE that it should be open. End of story.
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Post by: wrex on May 24, 2011, 04:29:50 PM
 :-[ None of us should be surprised at the tourist office being closed,this is CCBC we are dealing with.They are still doing up the tin shed on the Broadway coach park at least 10 weeks they have been there,extravaganza Sunday they had 70 coaches there and no toilet,yet they managed to put some on the prom on Sunday,AMAZING bunch of idiots. :o
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Post by: Jack on May 24, 2011, 06:05:54 PM
McCarthy and Stone are seeking planning permission to turn Plas-y-Dre (the former council run old people's home) and the building next to it into a new development of retirement flats.  The property is situated on Gloddaeth Street opposite Bryant and Hocknell.  They are currently seeking local people's views on the plans.
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Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
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McCarthy and Stone are seeking planning permission to turn Plas-y-Dre (the former council run old people's home) and the building next to it into a new development of retirement flats.  The property is situated on Gloddaeth Street opposite Bryant and Hocknell.  They are currently seeking local people's views on the plans.

I take it they're looking to demolish and rebuild? The existing buildings are not very attractive. There was a strong rumour last year that the Police wanted to move the Police Station there.
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Post by: Jack on May 24, 2011, 08:41:18 PM
Yes, knock it down and start again and landscape the site too.  I can't imagine there will be too much opposition - as you say Dave the current buildings have little aesthetic value.
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Post by: TheMedz on May 24, 2011, 10:26:26 PM
I don't know if it was the after shock of all the winds of the last couple of days but the weather walking around town later on this afternoon, although still breezy, felt warm and welcoming. Just nice to be out in the fresh air.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 25, 2011, 04:47:13 PM
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It's utter chaos in town at the moment - nobody has any idea which way they are supposed to go by car. Roads seem to be closed entirely at random, people are just driving around trying to work out which way they are supposed to go. This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.

Dave you've been quoted in the Pioneer on page 4, word for word  $3towns$
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Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2011, 05:54:57 PM
Hmmm, yes.  ??? I see they also nicked my news about Dominos Pizza looking for a site in Llandudno that was on here a week or so ago.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 25, 2011, 06:10:28 PM
I've thought for some time that the local papers just get a lot of stuff from here and then we read it a few days later! (when it's old news) :roll:
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Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2011, 06:15:44 PM
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It's utter chaos in town at the moment - nobody has any idea which way they are supposed to go by car. Roads seem to be closed entirely at random, people are just driving around trying to work out which way they are supposed to go. This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.

Dave you've been quoted in the Pioneer on page 4, word for word  $3towns$

There is a link to this on the BBC News website as well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wales/north_west_wales/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wales/north_west_wales/)


Fame at last ?
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Post by: Fester on May 25, 2011, 09:22:47 PM
Having read that article, my previous low opinion of David Williams has been fully confirmed, and surpassed.

Whether it be his woeful comments about what to do with the Pier Pavilion, or the less-than-edifying state the exterior of his own hotel has been allowed to fall into. I am constantly underwhelmed by what I see and hear fom him.

To say there has to be ''pain'' to get ''gain'' is a total nonsense.

All that is required is a modicum of common sense and rganisational planning.

I too am all for any events being brought to Llandudno, (I am a well known fan of the Exravaganza) ... just manage them properly, that all I ask.
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Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2011, 09:28:32 PM
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I too am all for any events being brought to Llandudno, (I am a well known fan of the Exravaganza) ... just manage them properly, that all I ask.
That's it in a nutshell. There have been many other such events in the past, none of which have caused the disruption that this one did. Poor planning is the reason why. Let's hope the Organisers learn from the feedback when they organise the next one.
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Post by: Ian on May 26, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
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Let's hope the Organisers learn from the feedback when they organise the next one.

Hmmm.  The biggest problem was when the cabinet approved all the road closures without - apparently - considering the effects. If we're hoping they learn from the feedback...
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Post by: Llechwedd on May 26, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
That's it then.  Half the shops are empty; buildings going to rack and ruin with no one with the energy to do anything about it; the towns going to be flooded and cycling allowed on the Prom.  I'd go if I had any money the whole place is going to hell in a hand cart.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 26, 2011, 01:10:09 PM
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Having read that article, my previous low opinion of David Williams has been fully confirmed, and surpassed.

Whether it be his woeful comments about what to do with the Pier Pavilion, or the less-than-edifying state the exterior of his own hotel has been allowed to fall into. I am constantly underwhelmed by what I see and hear fom him.

To say there has to be ''pain'' to get ''gain'' is a total nonsense.

All that is required is a modicum of common sense and rganisational planning.

I too am all for any events being brought to Llandudno, (I am a well known fan of the Exravaganza) ... just manage them properly, that all I ask.
The man is blinkered-- he goes round to people in the hospitality trade to 'see if their premises are suitable to be part of the Llandudno Hospitality Association'. Look at his own--It would have fallen down if someting hadn't been done this last month.
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Post by: dingo20 on May 26, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
I was invited to join the Llandudno Hospitality Association (I didn't get the honour of a visit) but had to point out that I'm not in the Hospitality trade I was then offered to join as an associate is it worth it? Seems pretty expensive and I'm not sure what I'd get out of it.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 26, 2011, 01:20:47 PM
No it's not and nothing . ??? The slate plaque is nice though !!!
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Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 02:50:38 PM
 :( Why don;t the hoteliers get rid of Mr Williams and start sticking up for themselves.When was the last time they confronted the town council about the state of the beaches,the empty shops,railway station,coach park,xmas lights ,its their buisnesses that suffer when nothing is done but they seem to sit back and let Mr Williams do nothing.Get him out ,make CCBC FILL THE A ZXZRENA WITH GROUPS AND THEN FILL YOUR HOTELS WITH CONCERT GOERS
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 26, 2011, 03:07:22 PM
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That's it in a nutshell. There have been many other such events in the past, none of which have caused the disruption that this one did. Poor planning is the reason why. Let's hope the Organisers learn from the feedback when they organise the next one.

To date, I have not contributed to last Sunday’s fiasco because I knew I was going to the Theatre of Dreams for a day out and I was always going to miss the road race.

However, as a long-standing resident of C-y-D, I will submit my own feedback.

I had seen all these yellow road signs on lampposts saying certain roads would be closed for at least a couple of weeks before the event.

Initially, I thought the roads were being closed for resurfacing work because I do not remember seeing any mention of a road race on the yellow signs.

Something else I never saw either was a plan of these road closures all joined up in the local newspapers showing how Llandudno was going to be affected last Sunday.

Had a map been provided then I would imagine motorists could have planned better.
 


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Post by: dingo20 on May 26, 2011, 03:10:29 PM
Total agree get people to the Venue and business will follow for all. A lot of hotels do golf breaks but not many do the Theater breaks which is understandable as there isn't a consistant number of quality shows on, very frustrating as most touring shows / groups would be happy to add a date on their tours.
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Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 03:27:03 PM
  8) To be honest Dingo i feel the theater does okay its the Arena where they let themselves and the ratepayers [hoteliers] down by their lack of  ANYTHING INSIDE IT AND ESPECIALLY POP CONCERTS ,WHICH WHEN THEY DO MANAGE ONE GO DOWN VERY WELL. $walesflag$
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Post by: dingo20 on May 26, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
If it was in private hands you'd make sure you had the place fully utilised even if it meant breaking even on some nights or offering to amateur acts. Mr Williams doesn't seem too popular, I've only spoken to him twice and because he didn't offer me or my business anything I ignored him.
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Post by: Waffagolf on May 26, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
A letter was supposed to be put through every letterbox along the Llandudno 10 route informing both residents and businesses about the race. On the reverse of the letter was supposed to be a breakdown of the entire route from start to finish so everyone along the entire route were informed. The yellow road signs did state the wording "Llandudno 10" at the top of every sign. They were the first words one would read. Date and times were clearly stated of the closures.

The letter should have contained details of the official Llandudno 10 website, so anyone could visit the site and see a pictorial breakdown of the exact route, a corner by corner, road by road visual breakdown of the entire route. There was also a written breakdown of the entire route PLUS and aerial view showing the exact course the runners would take.

The letter should also have stated that a copy of the road closure order was available for anyone to see prior to race day. I should add that I saw road closure details in local newpapers and on other websites prior to the race. I even heard a race Representative on our Community Radio Station stating the route of the race to the listeners.

It would be interesting to know which homes or businesses along the route didn't get a letter, if any, as this was a stringent and must do part of the organisers agreement with CCBC in order to get the roads closed. If letters were not received, then the organisers were remiss and should be taken to task over it. They were under no illusions that letters should be put through EVERY letter box on the 10 mile route. No exceptions.
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Post by: DaveR on May 26, 2011, 04:39:43 PM
I think a big part of the problem was the signage...or lack of it. There were 'Road Closed' signs and cones everywhere but no indication at all of an alternative route so motorists were just driving around trying to find a way out or in.

A good example was trying to leave the town via Craig Y Don. You went down to the Boulevard roundabout - the road onto the Prom was closed, so all traffic went straight across onto Mostyn Ave. They got to the junction with Clarence Road and, there, Mostyn  Ave was coned off, so all traffic turned left into Clarence Road (obviously a nightmare because it is quite narrow). Then, when they got to the Prom, they had to turn left back towards the Boulevard roundabout as the way right was coned off!

Totally ridiculous!
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Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
 Get JFS on the case,the sinod can sort it out. D);)
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Post by: Paddy on May 26, 2011, 04:48:26 PM
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It would be interesting to know which homes or businesses along the route didn't get a letter, if any, as this was a stringent and must do part of the organisers agreement with CCBC in order to get the roads closed. If letters were not received, then the organisers were remiss and should be taken to task over it. They were under no illusions that letters should be put through EVERY letter box on the 10 mile route. No exceptions.

I didn't get one!
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Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 04:49:34 PM
 ;)Is Yorkie on another cruise? :P
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Post by: Trojan on May 27, 2011, 05:41:25 PM
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;)Is Yorkie on another cruise? :P

Maybe he fell off over the Atlantic.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 27, 2011, 06:22:03 PM
 L0L L0L
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Post by: DaveR on May 29, 2011, 09:34:04 PM
I noticed that repair work was taking place on Christchurch - a new owner maybe?
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Post by: dwsi on May 29, 2011, 09:46:05 PM
Llandudno canoe and mountaineering club and folk club

https://sites.google.com/site/tonyfranks/home/john-evans-book
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 29, 2011, 09:56:09 PM
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I noticed that repair work was taking place on Christchurch - a new owner maybe?

Does anybody know where the church records are kept for a marriage during the 1830's ?

I once tried the Rev Keith Jones about 15 years ago without much success.
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Post by: wrex on May 30, 2011, 08:56:32 AM
 :) How does Llandudno start to attract young families into town again,there are hardly any coaches coming in for daytrips at the weekends ,during the week there are still a few but they are full of pensioners who are happy with what the town has to offer,but families on a wet day forget it and until we have one quality wet weather attraction families will not gamble on the weather.I;am surprised nobody has ever opened a pottery,childrens museum,model railway but you can;t force people but the town definatly needs one thing that will attract the family into town wet or dry. :'(
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Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 08:59:57 AM
There's  a sort of Pottery on Llywelyn Ave:
http://www.pots2colour.co.uk/ (http://www.pots2colour.co.uk/)

...but you're right. We could with a few more indoor family attractions to keep children occupied.
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Post by: Ian on May 30, 2011, 10:16:36 AM
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model railway

There could be some mileage in that idea.  I've always thought a monorail running along the prom, around the Little Orme (just above the waves) and into Colwyn Bay could be a nice idea.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 30, 2011, 10:32:32 AM
Bring back the tramway $good$
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Post by: Ian on May 30, 2011, 11:15:28 AM
That would certainly be a winner.
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Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
The Tramway wouldn't really be feasible unless it had a dedicated route, there would be traffic chaos otherwise.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 30, 2011, 12:36:01 PM
also some flats would need to be demolished to rebuild the  Rhos on Sea depot (the office is still there and is for sale!) I'd have thought there must be someway of running the trams with cars and I say that as a very keen motorist as well as liking trams :)
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Post by: Hugo on May 30, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
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model railway

There could be some mileage in that idea.  I've always thought a monorail running along the prom, around the Little Orme (just above the waves) and into Colwyn Bay could be a nice idea.

They did try something similar in Rhyl many years ago but it never caught on and was pulled down after a while.
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Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
The Rhyl Promenade Monorail was opened by Terry Wogan.
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Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 12:39:27 AM
On the point of wet weather tourist attractions. Let's not forget that the company behind the Rhyl Sea Life Centre wanted to come to Llandudno as their first choice. But the council being the council, turned them down, so they went to Rhyl, and Llandudno lost out.  :(

Madness when you think the SLC is open almost everyday of the year.

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Post by: born2run on May 31, 2011, 01:47:49 AM
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On the point of wet weather tourist attractions. Let's not forget that the company behind the Rhyl Sea Life Centre wanted to come to Llandudno as their first choice. But the council being the council, turned them down, so they went to Rhyl, and Llandudno lost out.  :(

Madness when you think the SLC is open almost everyday of the year.



Completely stupid as Rhyl is closer to the bigger and better Blue Planet in Ellesmere Port.
Llandudno would have got the trade from the west as well as the other tourists and done even better than Rhyl - In my humble opinion
Just think of the jobs it could have created for one!

Reminds me, I saw some guy doing an indepedant history walkabout thing a few weeks ago, about 6pm on a Tuesday. He must have had about 40 old people following him around, surely there is a market for a decent historical museum, that is centrally located and well funded? They could do one for the whole of North Wales not just Llandudno, would be plenty of content.
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Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 08:08:14 AM
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model railway

There could be some mileage in that idea.  I've always thought a monorail running along the prom, around the Little Orme (just above the waves) and into Colwyn Bay could be a nice idea.

They did try something similar in Rhyl many years ago but it never caught on and was pulled down after a while.
It was a commercial disaster, as I recall:
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Post by: Blodyn on May 31, 2011, 11:37:01 AM

Does anybody know where the church records are kept for a marriage during the 1830's ?

I once tried the Rev Keith Jones about 15 years ago without much success.
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I think that Christchurch might have become part of Gloddaeth United, so it might be worth contacting them: 

http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/ (http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/)
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Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 06:29:02 PM
I saw our AM Janet Finch-Saunders in Madoc street with James Jackson, the estate agent, this afternoon. Looking for a Constituency office, perhaps?
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Post by: TheMedz on May 31, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
The cycling on the prom issue has made it onto the BBC website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13605040 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13605040)
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Post by: ormegolf on May 31, 2011, 08:49:54 PM
The Rhyl monorail was a complete disaster from the word go. Just one incedent of probably hundreds. Within the first week of operation one of the cars, loaded with passengers, came off the rail at one end, and was suspended leaning over at about 30 degrees unable to move repeat FULL OF PASSENGERS. That got the Company plenty of press publicity, photos. The reason it came off was because the bend was too tight, as simple as that. So for the rest of its limited life it just went along the straight bit and then reversed back along the same section.
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Post by: wrex on May 31, 2011, 09:00:24 PM
 :D Talking of cycling on the prom,who should cycle past us last night large as life ,CLL Janet Howarth,ok its not a finable offence but a TORY cycling on the promenade,woo. WWW
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Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 10:30:49 PM
Forgot to mention earlier, but I heard last week that the Arriva Open Top Bus Tour around Llandudno & Conwy will not be running this year.
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Post by: Blodyn on June 01, 2011, 12:02:38 AM
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Does anybody know where the church records are kept for a marriage during the 1830's ?

I once tried the Rev Keith Jones about 15 years ago without much success.

I think that Christchurch might have become part of Gloddaeth United, so it might be worth contacting them: 

http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/ (http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/)
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Oops - messed up the quote here!  This was supposed to be an answer to Bri Robert's question on 29 May (reply # 1097).  Hope you find this answer, Bri! 
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 01, 2011, 02:14:43 AM
Thanks, Blodyn.

Somebody suggested that to me a few years ago on the previous forum and I did contact the vicar at Gloddaeth United at the time.

However, the vicar did confirm he now had the records but not those gong back to pre-civil registration in 1837.



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Post by: Trojan on June 01, 2011, 02:16:34 AM
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:D Talking of cycling on the prom,who should cycle past us last night large as life ,CLL Janet Howarth,ok its not a finable offence but a TORY cycling on the promenade,woo. WWW

 L0L
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Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 05:48:37 PM
 :P Oscar has really ripped into CCBC over their neglect of Llandudno,good reading. :laugh:
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Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 07:11:41 PM
 :) I have just been up Cwm mountain to see how the tres are taking shape,from the bottom you would think their were no trees there,but once you get on the paths you can see them popping up all over the place above the ferns.Lets hope that no fire bugs go up there this year.  ???-*
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Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
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:P Oscar has really ripped into CCBC over their neglect of Llandudno,good reading. :laugh:
I'll go and have a look and report back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 07:41:48 PM
I've read Oscar's post and...don't really agree with all of it.

The fact is Llandudno is busier than it has been for many years. I've been told that certain Hoteliers have already taken more money this year than they did all last Season. There is no shortage of people visiting the town.

So..what are Llandudno's problems?

1) Large number of empty shops - A UK wide problem. High rent, high rates, chain retailers going out of business, growth of Internet sales are the reasons why. Only a combination of lower Rent & Rates can revitalise the main shopping streets.

2) Lack of tourist attractions/facilities - Llandudno has slowly lost a few attractions over the years and they have not been replaced. We need more indoor attractions, especially ones suitable for families with young children. Public spaces like Happy Valley are woefully underused - the dead hand of CCBC is responsible.

3) Decline in maintenance of public areas - a particular bugbear of mine. Broken pavements, unpainted railings, flowerbeds grassed over - all small things in themselves but which all add up to give an impression to visitors of a town in decline, a town with no civic pride. We must never forget that visitors always have the choice about where they can go for a break and a tatty seaside town will result in them going somewhere else next time.

4) Increasing visitor accommodation expectations not being met - Hotels like the Clarence and Tudno Castle Hotel gave up the ghost because of lack of investment over the years resulted in an accommodation experience that was less than appealing. Visitors are used to high standards in their own homes these days and will not accept anything less when on holiday. Llandudno Hotels need to raise their game.


Lastly, a question. I was walking along the Promenade this morning and musing to myself how little we hear from Llandudno Hoteliers on the decline in some aspects of the town. If my lifeblood was a Llandudno hotel, I would be raising hell about CCBC's treatment of the town. Yet we hear very little?
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Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 08:01:03 PM
It is a typical British trait NOT to complain.   ;)
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Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 08:02:48 PM
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It is a typical British trait NOT to complain.   ;)
...and look where it's got them.  ;)
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Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
Absolutely!   I get told off by the Mrs for complaining too much!   :rage:
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Post by: Nemesis on June 05, 2011, 09:08:06 PM
. I was walking along the Promenade this morning and musing to myself how little we hear from Llandudno Hoteliers on the decline in some aspects of the town. If my lifeblood was a Llandudno hotel, I would be raising hell about CCBC's treatment of the town. Yet we hear very little?

Try the backlash-- it's not good !
Direct to the council --fine.
Public complaints-- ouch !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 09:41:45 PM
One would think that the Llandudno Town Council would do something about it by constantly lobbying the County Council.    Unfortunately all the Town Councillors are interested in is their little insignificant "enterprises".   Read the minutes in the Library and see exactly what they say and do.   Lots of small talk and precious little action.   The whole lot need sacking!     $angry$

Forgot, there are a few Town Councillors who are also County Councillors with a direct line to the County!  One is now even an Assembly Member, wonder how effective she is going to be?    L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 05, 2011, 10:26:49 PM
This is what I contributed on Oscar, on this subject.

''Why would areas such as Bodafon Fields be required to be developed? When there are perfectly good commercial sites crying out to have attractions built on them.
West Shore and The Pier Pavilion site could house fabulous 'Disney Quest' or Blackpool 'Sandcastle' type attractions.
Llandudno is not short of ideas, nor places to site them... it is short of willpower and a management team capable of making them happen''.
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Post by: suepp on June 06, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
One Campsite would be great, not talking about a great big commercial site, but one with a decent shower block and small clubhouse and shop would do. The site of the Gogarth Abbey would be ideal!
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Post by: hollins on June 06, 2011, 07:38:30 PM
What's Llandudno like right now? This post is not entirely accurate as this is about my day out to Llandudno earlier today!

I had a lovely day out today in Llandudno. It started off by picking up the glass from Builder Street West. I found someone called Jason but he had never heard of the forum or Trojan so sorry about that Trojan but I did try!
I then decided to visit Haulfre Gardens which I have never been to before. I had seen Dave R’s
photos of the place on flickr. Fester had warned me that they didn’t look as good now but I was still quite shocked at the state that they have been allowed to get in to.
I made a mistake in thinking they were near the Happy Valley gardens so I started there. I walked past the cable car station and on up past the ski slope on to the rocks overlooking the bay.
What a magnificent view from up there and it was so beautifully clear today.
Then I descended the hill past the donkeys and still looking for the gardens I walked up the hill following the signs to Mike’s golf course. It was fascinating walking past all the things I read about on the forum! The tram driver gave me a lovely smile when I took his photo!
I thought I would ask Mike where the gardens were but unfortunately his sign said, “Lunchtime, back at 2.15”.
I walked back down the hill and asked a council worker and he showed me a nice path across the tops which came down in to the gardens. What incredible views from there. How in this world can they let this amazing place deteriorate like that!
I read on a posting recently from Dave R how infuriated he is with the council for letting brickwork and paintwork become shabby. I saw exactly what he meant today (see last two photos).
I had a nice lunch sat outside at the tearoom.
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Post by: hollins on June 06, 2011, 07:41:36 PM
A couple of negative photos but I hope someone from the council is looking in. This is what a first time visitor saw at the gardens today.
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Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
Well, it sounds as though you had quite a pleasant day out!  :)

Haulfre Gardens is in a poor state and is almost embarrassing. As you say, a wonderful location, but spoilt by the lack of maintenance to both the gardens and the shelters within. Happy Valley is a lot better but still nowhere near as good as it could be.  :(

The good old days...

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Post by: Ian on June 07, 2011, 08:13:23 AM
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Not sure where the Mostyn Champneys traffic lights link has gone

I finally found the topic where you'd originally posted about the lights, and moved the newly created topic into it.  It's now here:

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=324.50 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=324.50)

Meanwhile, I've also moved your post into it.
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Post by: Blodyn on June 07, 2011, 09:50:16 AM
I'm glad that you enjoyed your day out in Llandudno, Hollins, and hope that you'll come again despite the poor state of the gardens.  There are some lovely walks on the Great Orme, with more of the splendid views.  If you get a copy of the map mentioned in this thread it will tell you lots of interesting things to look out for:

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=215.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=215.0)

The map is available from the cafe halfway around Marine Drive.  In the thread, the name of the cafe hasn't displayed properly and I'm having the same trouble with it.

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Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 10:03:08 AM
The map is also on sale in the Haulfre Gardens Cafe.
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Post by: hollins on June 07, 2011, 11:05:07 AM
Thanks for the map info Dave and Blodyn. I should have had that yesterday but still it was fun exploring!
I come to Llandudno every week to do my food shopping. I feel so lucky to be able to do such a mundane job in such a lovely place.
I will buy the map next time and make sure I do lots more walks on the Orme.
 $thanx$
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Post by: CurlyCap on June 07, 2011, 12:59:10 PM
I think a few more signposts would be helpful on the Orme.

There's a lovely woodland walk infront of our house that leads to Haulfre Gardens but unfortunately many people trudge up the Hill and Tram Track looking for it but then end up wondering around, unsure which way to go next.

Some more little wooden signs, showing the various trails and walks would benefit many of the walkers.
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Post by: Trojan on June 07, 2011, 06:49:01 PM
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It started off by picking up the glass from Builder Street West. I found someone called Jason but he had never heard of the forum or Trojan so sorry about that Trojan but I did try!

Thanks anyway hollins, he wouldn't have known me as Trojan. Maybe curiosity will get the better of him and we will get a new forum member.  :)
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Post by: Ian on June 08, 2011, 08:25:47 AM
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Some more little wooden signs, showing the various trails and walks would benefit many of the walkers.

Good idea. 
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Post by: Pendragon on June 08, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
We were in Jacks (was Matelots) on Sunday night for a pool match.  We were greeted by 8 local llandudno girls in fancy dress, they had taken part in the Race for Life on Rhyl prom on Sunday morning.  They had walked just over 3 miles dressed in pink complete with pink affro wigs, fair play to them they had raised over £1,200.  Well done ladies.  $good$
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Post by: Fester on June 08, 2011, 09:03:37 PM
Not sure which thread is appropriate for this (possibly) encouraging news...

As some Forum members are aware, Dave and I, (along with Mrs Fester) have been looking at several business opportunities in Llandudno / Conwy and Rhos in recent months.
Some projects have been abandoned as not viable, others are still ongoing... but this week 2 premises which Mrs F, (who is in charge of such matters) was due to view, have been chalked off the appointment list...as they have been snapped up!

I am referring to the Diskos and Homestyle premises, close to each other in Mostyn Street.

I have no information as to what businesses are to open therein, but it is potentially a positive move for that part of Llandudno.

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Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2011, 09:13:30 PM
I was going to mention that but forgot, so well done.  $good$
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Post by: ormegolf on June 08, 2011, 09:27:03 PM
Hollins, sorry to have missed you. It is only this week that Ive tried out this "gone for lunch" idea. As far as I know you are the one and only person to have suffered!!! Not much consolation, I know  But, on Monday, I never saw a sole all day, and, I can tell you, that was a mighty long day with a flask of stewed tea to keep me company. After Friday that will be the end of the lunch hour because, according to last years takings, at least I take a fiver or so every day. Sorry again Mike
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Post by: Blodyn on June 11, 2011, 11:06:07 PM
It's been another lovely evening in Llandudno. 
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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 02:53:05 AM
Nice pic.  $good$
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Post by: born2run on June 12, 2011, 10:06:52 AM
I've got some quite nice pictures of the views in Conwy I've taken at lunch times... Where could I put them on here?

 $thanx$
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Post by: Ian on June 12, 2011, 10:25:13 AM
In Everything to do with Conwy?

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12.525 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12.525)
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Post by: wrex on June 12, 2011, 04:30:59 PM
 :( Wet that is what town is today and i have seen a few coaches coming in for the day,oh my god i thought what are those poor souls going to do in town today,the war museum,Llandudno museum,3 amusement arcades and shop oh ten pin bowling that is it.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 12, 2011, 04:47:10 PM
You sound like Senna ! WWW
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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
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:( Wet that is what town is today and i have seen a few coaches coming in for the day,oh my god i thought what are those poor souls going to do in town today,the war museum,Llandudno museum,3 amusement arcades and shop oh ten pin bowling that is it.

When you think that the majority of the coach passengers are elderly it seems a travesty that there is nothing suitable for them to do.

The war museum will probably bring back unpleasant memories and all those machines in the local amusement arcades appear to be geared toward the younger element. (well, apart from one-armed bandits and penny pusher machines)

As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2011, 05:25:37 PM
Perhaps we need to reopen the Prize Bingo somewhere!
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Post by: dwsi on June 12, 2011, 05:27:51 PM
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As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?

this is how -> http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx (http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx)   ;D

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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 12, 2011, 06:23:33 PM
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Perhaps we need to reopen the Prize Bingo somewhere!
I notice whenever I pass it, the Amusement Arcade by North Western Gardens does Prize Bingo.
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Post by: suepp on June 12, 2011, 06:37:24 PM
Llandudno in the rain - nothing better than a nice cosy pub to sit in, who needs Bingo!
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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:16:41 PM
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As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?

this is how -> http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx (http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx)   ;D


 _))*
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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
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Llandudno in the rain - nothing better than a nice cosy pub to sit in, who needs Bingo!

You can drink in the Conservative Club AND have a game of Bingo on certain nights.  +}}{-- $drink$

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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:20:35 PM
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Perhaps we need to reopen the Prize Bingo somewhere!
I notice whenever I pass it, the Amusement Arcade by North Western Gardens does Prize Bingo.

Robins Bingo was the best at that location.

"It's on the blue five and two fifty two"
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
The Prize Bingo on the Pier was excellent at one time  ;)
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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
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The Prize Bingo on the Pier was excellent at one time  ;)

I heard the prizes went missing on numerous occasions.  8)
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Post by: Fester on June 12, 2011, 11:03:41 PM
How did you come by that Salad Spinner and that Set of 6 Arcopal glass tumblers Dave?  :laugh:

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Post by: TheMedz on June 12, 2011, 11:16:41 PM
You've got me thinking now Fester. What was the make written on the bottom of the school dinner water glasses?
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Post by: Ian on June 13, 2011, 07:51:55 AM
Duralex?  (http://www.drinkstuff.com/products/search.asp?searchfield=Duralex%20Glasses&gclid=CP6X3u-lsqkCFQod4Qod8SmiKA)
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Post by: TheMedz on June 13, 2011, 07:54:32 AM
Thanks Ian
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2011, 08:19:59 AM
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The Prize Bingo on the Pier was excellent at one time  ;)

I heard the prizes went missing on numerous occasions.  8)
They weren't worth nicking, mate.  :laugh:

In a previous life, I used to choose the prizes for the Prize Bingo on the Pier. One thing I learnt was..if an item looked so tasteless that you wouldn't have in your house, then order lots of it. One of the most sought after prizes was a large plastic clock in the shape of a gold coloured elephant. It was massive and the clock face was located where the body of the elephant was. The curious thing was that the clock hands each had a butterfly attached - I never found out why.  ???
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Post by: hollins on June 13, 2011, 09:15:19 AM
The description of the prize made me chuckle this morning!
Thanks for that.  It also convinced me that Fester's comments on what people want to buy in town are complelety correct!
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2011, 09:27:49 AM
Perhaps a mid ground of tasteful gifts/souvenirs at affordable prices is the answer. But is that achievable...maybe?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 13, 2011, 10:05:29 AM
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In a previous life, I used to choose the prizes for the Prize Bingo on the Pier. One thing I learnt was..if an item looked so tasteless that you wouldn't have in your house, then order lots of it. One of the most sought after prizes was a large plastic clock in the shape of a gold coloured elephant. It was massive and the clock face was located where the body of the elephant was. The curious thing was that the clock hands each had a butterfly attached - I never found out why.  ???

 :o I've seen trying to find one of those for years! It will go with my pink giraffe clock with a penguin on each hand!  :laugh:
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Post by: Blodyn on June 13, 2011, 12:09:23 PM
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:( Wet that is what town is today and i have seen a few coaches coming in for the day,oh my god i thought what are those poor souls going to do in town today,the war museum,Llandudno museum,3 amusement arcades and shop oh ten pin bowling that is it.

When you think that the majority of the coach passengers are elderly it seems a travesty that there is nothing suitable for them to do.

The war museum will probably bring back unpleasant memories and all those machines in the local amusement arcades appear to be geared toward the younger element. (well, apart from one-armed bandits and penny pusher machines)

As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?

The country park Visitor Centre at the Great Orme summit is very interesting and those who’ve come for the scenery might enjoy it, while others might like Randolph Turpin’s bar.  Much of the Great Orme Mines is under cover and one can also have a coffee there and browse the secondhand books. 

BUT: how is a coach passenger to get to these attractions?  An open sided tram is not very alluring on a wet day and the 73 bus provides a rather limited service, leaving passengers at the summit for 2 ½ - 3 hours on a Sunday (on other days there are four, rather than three buses).  Much as I love the Great Orme I’m not sure that, as a visitor, I’d want to spend so long at the summit on a wet day and there is no timetabled stop for the copper mines.  Even this assumes that: the visitor know about the bus (remembering that Tourist Information is closed on a Sunday); arrives in time for the first bus; is able to get back from the Orme in time for their coach home. 

I’ve not really helped very much, have I?!
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
I can see what looks to be a largish fire up in the Maes y Castell area of Llanrhos. Lots of black smoke billowing over.
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Post by: wrex on June 16, 2011, 05:18:57 PM
 ;D I take it from the lack of disscusion that the weekly news has none in today,concerning Llandudno  anyway. ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
This graffiti has appeared on the Prom, who could be responsible?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 16, 2011, 06:03:03 PM
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This graffiti has appeared on the Prom, who could be responsible?

Hmm, were there any witnesses?  L0L


(Jehova's  ;D )
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Post by: Yorkie on June 16, 2011, 06:52:44 PM
They needed it to "save" someone!    _))*
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Post by: Trojan on June 17, 2011, 05:20:27 AM
"We love God & Jesus"

I thought they were supposed to be the same?  ???
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Post by: Ian on June 17, 2011, 08:22:59 AM
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I thought they were supposed to be the same?

One of the great mysteries of the Christian religion, T. There's also a third aspect of what is purported to be the same supernatural being. All very difficult to understand.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 17, 2011, 08:56:25 AM
Isn't Jesus supposed to be the Son of God?     $good$
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Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 09:21:46 AM
If he really was the Son of God it would mean he was a celestial being (I think that's the right word) which in turn would mean he was actually an Alien.  The one characteristic of all religious denominations is they pray to the sky.  He could also of been considered as a fore runner to David Blane or our very own Derren Brown.
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Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 10:47:57 AM
Today sermon is brought to you by the Reverend DaveR  _))*
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 10:59:14 AM
 :laugh: How unfortunate that my hand happened to be covering my face when you took that photo.  8)
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Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
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:laugh: How unfortunate that my hand happened to be covering my face when you took that photo.  8)
Yes quite  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:13:37 PM
The new Coach Park Cafe looks to be ready to open.

"A MUCH missed facility will reopen and form part of a project to help train people who have overcome drugs and alcohol problems, therefore assisting them back into employment.

The cafe on Llandudno’s Mostyn Broadway coach park closed two years ago but will reopen next month after being completely refurbished. It will be staffed by six people at a time who will be mentored by experienced catering professionals.

Clive Wolfendale, the chief executive of alcohol and drugs charity Cais which will run the scheme said he hoped it would receive a positive response.

“We have the support of the Welsh Assembly Government and Conwy County Council and with their help have completely refurbished the building.

“The town council has also been very supportive of the project which will give people the opportunity of getting training which will help them find employment.

“The cafe has been in disrepair and was an eyesore and it has been completely renovated to a high standard as have the toilet facilities in the building.

“It will be professionally managed and we believe it will offer a much needed facility for both visitors and locals alike,” he said."

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/16/llandudno-cafe-will-help-rehabilitate-recovering-addicts-55243-28883577/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/16/llandudno-cafe-will-help-rehabilitate-recovering-addicts-55243-28883577/)
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Post by: ormegolf on June 17, 2011, 08:24:51 PM
I have spent many an hour in that cafe in my Nat Express days. It will be busy at certain times on certain days in the summer, but virtually nil in the winter. If you are a local and feel like supporting it in the lean times, DONT EVEN THINK of parking your car in the hugh expanse of empty tarmac. I fully agree that all that space is needed for coaches picking up and dropping off on a summer saturday, but that is really the only time. God help any coach driver who thinks he might park there at a quiet time, forget it unless y.ou have a deep pocket to pay the fine.
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Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 08:42:13 PM
I like the final quote in that item about it being ''professionally managed''

That is one hell of a claim, and something that is in woefully short supply in the whole of the UK.

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Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 07:48:12 AM
 :D The sun is out,rumours flying all over the place and JD sports opens today,hey. :-*
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Post by: llandudnotrust on June 19, 2011, 05:37:23 PM
What is Llandudno like right now "Fantastic" I have just walked to St Davids College Fete and then to Conwy and back along West Shore. Yep Knackerd but what a place to live. :D
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Post by: wrex on June 19, 2011, 06:14:01 PM
 :) Is the project for the church on abbey rd going ahead,there seems to be a lot going on and what has happened to the golf driving range, just like the Poundstretchers signs everything has dissapeared. Z**
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Post by: Nemesis on June 19, 2011, 06:25:25 PM
According to the local 'gossip' it is to be a children's play centre called Bonkers ! :o--- Mmmm I thought that as well ! I'll believe it when I see it-- they have been mucking about for so long.
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Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 01:41:58 AM
I wondered why the Police helicopter and Lifeboats were active so much the last two days... now I see why.

Here... a lady missing from The Risboro hotel since Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177)

Have you seen her?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 20, 2011, 05:52:22 AM
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God help any coach driver who thinks he might park there at a quiet time, forget it unless y.ou have a deep pocket to pay the fine.

I think you will find the coaches park for free in either the Old Halfords Car Park or outside the Fire Exit of Queen Elizabeth Court in C-y-D.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 20, 2011, 07:55:09 AM
As usual the "powers that be" welcome with open arms all visitors to the town.  The Llandudno On Street Parking Order prohibits the parking of coaches on every street in the town.   All drop-offs and pick-ups should be at the Coach park where one has to pay through the nose for the priviledge.  Unless they are delivering to an hotel.

On a Bank Holiday we can get approximately 150 coaches in a day so it is a big money earner, and there isn't even a decent toilet facility for the passengers arriving or leaving.  The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet.   Just imagine the state of that at the end of a day with up to 7,500 people going through the coach park!    :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2011, 08:16:29 AM
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The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet. 
You're joking?!  :o
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Post by: Ian on June 20, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
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Just imagine the state of that at the end of a day with up to 7,500 people going through the coach park! 

Having said that, don't many modern coaches have their own on-board, toilets?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 20, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
But are passengers, Ian, allowed to flush the toilet when the coach is stationary at the station?  ?{}?
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Post by: Yorkie on June 20, 2011, 10:19:34 AM
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The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet. 
You're joking?!  :o

No I am not!
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Just imagine the state of that at the end of a day with up to 7,500 people going through the coach park! 

Having said that, don't many modern coaches have their own on-board, toilets?

Which can get full very quickly!   And there are not many places to empty them!
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Post by: norman08 on June 20, 2011, 10:34:06 AM
 and how long did it take to do the work on that tin shed , walk past the coach park see how full it does,nt get, the council are having a sign made VISITORS NOT WELCOME  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Ian on June 20, 2011, 10:45:29 AM
One big problem with the entire area is the lack of decent toilets for visitors. And so many of our visitors are elderly, who require the loo fairly often.
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Post by: catlover on June 20, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
Any arty photos of sunshine cafe and happy valley would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, from a llandudno lover who visits once a year. $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on June 20, 2011, 05:54:39 PM
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I wondered why the Police helicopter and Lifeboats were active so much the last two days... now I see why.

Here... a lady missing from The Risboro hotel since Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177)

Have you seen her?
No , but the Police dogs etc were combing the streets on Saturday night, we had the biggest German Shepherd that I have ever seen outside our front gate. They closed the roads whilst they searched with the dog and it headed off up toward the Orme.
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Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 07:24:52 PM
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I wondered why the Police helicopter and Lifeboats were active so much the last two days... now I see why.

Here... a lady missing from The Risboro hotel since Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177)

Have you seen her?
No , but the Police dogs etc were combing the streets on Saturday night, we had the biggest German Shepherd that I have ever seen outside our front gate. They closed the roads whilst they searched with the dog and it headed off up toward the Orme.

The trouble is, I keep thinking I see her all over town... but a lady in her late fifties, with neat blonde-to-greying hair, dressed in walking gear... they all look so much alike.
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Post by: ormegolf on June 20, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
Getting back to the toilets and coaches discussion. Go to Pringles in Llanfair P.G., a medium sized retail "woolen mill" type of store, and you will find upwards of 50 toilet spaces in the mens. That is because they know that when a coach arrives there are 25 upwards males heading straight there. All at the same time
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Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 09:04:51 PM
Did you say 25 UPWARD males Mike?   :o :o
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Post by: SDQ on June 20, 2011, 09:06:03 PM
When I was bus driving they used to 'look after' the drivers to make sure they stopped there so the amount of toilets was probably a calculated investment to be honest.
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Post by: Pendragon on June 21, 2011, 05:47:32 PM
Is there a strike at Craig y Don school?
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Post by: Pendragon on June 21, 2011, 06:50:19 PM
OOps sorry it's next Thursday.  Facebook
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Post by: ormegolf on June 21, 2011, 08:11:31 PM
SDQ, of course its an investment, no need to be honest about it, they are rightly proud of them. Edinburgh Woollen Mills are professionals. The point I'm making is that Llandudno coach station its toilet (and maybe its Cafe, I dont know about the new one) is not a good professionaly planned facility.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 21, 2011, 08:34:43 PM
Even the old mobile unit they had at the Coach Park couldn't cope in the silly season!   That had 4 urinals and two WC's for men and 4 WC's for the ladies.   Despite regular cleaning during the day it was a mess and it is a wonder that people used them.  Needs must I suppose!   ZXZ
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Post by: JasonW on June 21, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
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The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet. 
You're joking?!  :o
Mr Clive Wolfendale submitted a planning application to replace the toilets on the coach park. The application was considered at May's Planning Committee meeting.
The application was to demolish the existing facility and to replace with a "Ship Container" looking system. The committee refused the application as the Container system was not acceptable, but the committee were keen for an amended scheme to be resubmitted. Authority was delegated to officers to negotiate a more visually acceptable solution.
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2374&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2374&Ver=4)

Text from minutes:
 
Code Ref: 0/37711 - Demolition of Existing Toilet Block and Erection of Replacement Portable Toilet Block, Caffi Cais, Coach Park, Mostyn Broadway, Llandudno

Minutes:

An addendum to the report was presented, highlighting the primary considerations of the application i.e. the desirability of preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of the Conservation Area and the desirability of preserving the setting of the adjoining Listed Buildings.
 
Members considered the type of portable structure being proposed as inappropriate for a Conservation Area and for the delivery of tourism.  However, Members recognised the need for such a provision, but with improved design/structure.  As a consequence, the Committee were minded to refuse planning permission, but grant delegated authority to the Development and Building Control Manager to determine a revised application for an improved design of toilet block.
 
RESOLVED:-
(a)   That the Planning Committee be minded to refuse planning permission.
 
(b)  That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation.
 
(c)   That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine any re-submitted proposal/application under delegation.
 
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Post by: wrex on June 21, 2011, 10:28:12 PM
 :( What a load of rubbish,the coach park is in a back street and is looking over the back of Parc Llandudno,its just a plan,like Llandudno station to not spend the money as its all going into Colwyn,it stinks. :rage:
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Post by: Fester on June 21, 2011, 11:30:32 PM
Indeed, it seems that the inclination is always to BLOCK doing something... rather than commit TO doing something.

Why was there no resolution to make a deadline for this so called IMPROVED proposal?

Nothing focus's the attention like a deadline.
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Post by: DaveR on June 22, 2011, 09:58:38 AM
Funding has been approved for the Alice In Wonderland Town Trail at a cost of £90,000:

The connection between Alice in Wonderland and Llandudno is well
known.  The proposal consists of a number of features which start from
the Llandudno Promenade, leading up the Happy Valley, finally ending at
the entrance of the Alice in Wonderland garden trail.  This will offer a
number of opportunities ranging from family outings, educational trips,
both formal and informal, and enhancement of the visitor experience,
which in turn plays an integral part of supporting the local economy. 

The proposal consists of installing the following elements:

Mosaic panels depicting Alice in Wonderland characters designed
by  pupils from Ysgol y Gogarth will be fixed to structures in
Llandudno Bay, Llandudno Promenade and Happy Valley Park.

Five large wooden carvings depicting Alice, the Queen of Hearts,
the Mad Hatter, the White Rabbit and the Caterpillar will be
positioned around Llandudno, with some set into existing
flowerbeds and enhanced by appropriate bedding.  Each carving
will ‘signpost’ on to the next feature.

A Victorian bandstand will be built as a new feature, consisting of
balustrade panels featuring characters such as the Dodo, Playing
Card, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Walrus and Caterpillar. 
This feature will enable opportunities for schools and local groups
to practice instrumental performances.

A floral clock will provide a major feature, depicting the White
Rabbit’s pocket watch, created on the Llandudno Promenade.  The
clock will measure approximately 2 metres, it will be designed to
generate solar energy to power the GRP timing mechanism,
ensuring the clock continues to offer the correct time all year round.   

In order that people are encouraged to follow the trail from the
promenade to the Alice in Wonderland garden trail, a series of
cement rabbit paw prints will be embedded, and small arrow signs
will lead to the next feature.
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Post by: wrex on June 24, 2011, 07:08:48 PM
 ;) Very wet at the moment but we are promised some sun,whoopee L0L
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Post by: wrex on June 25, 2011, 04:40:17 PM
 :) Bonkers fun center opening soon,old church ,Abbey rd,it will be somewhere for kids in the rain. :-*
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Post by: DaveR on June 25, 2011, 04:48:46 PM
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Bonkers fun center opening soon
It's been open for years, Wrex, we call it the Town Hall.  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on June 25, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
or Bodlondeb  _))*
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Post by: Trojan on June 25, 2011, 06:18:34 PM
 L0L
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Post by: wrex on June 26, 2011, 01:39:05 PM
 :D Dave i expect that from Yorkie not you.You now as well as i do they really want to improve Llandudno, but hav;nt got a clue. L0L
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2011, 01:40:45 PM
It's the hottest day of the year so far (24degrees) and a cold beer outside the Fat Cat is very pleasant.  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on June 26, 2011, 03:12:17 PM
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:D Dave i expect that from Yorkie not you.You now as well as i do they really want to improve Llandudno, but hav;nt got a clue. L0L

Just remember Wrex that it also gave you a lot of entertaining evenings!     _))*   _))*
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Post by: wrex on June 26, 2011, 03:38:01 PM
 ;)WITH THE TWO OLD MEN AT THE END LIKE THOSE TWO OFF THE MUPPETS DO YOU MEAN. L0L
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Post by: Yorkie on June 26, 2011, 03:48:13 PM
Just the two of could have done a better job that the few who did turn up!     $good$
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Post by: suepp on June 26, 2011, 03:53:18 PM
Just had this alert on facebook

If anybody knows where a 7 year old boy called Elliot is please notify police straight away, he went missing from Llandudno beach 30 mins ago, he has green tshirt and shorts on and a cap with monster on it. That's all I know sorry. Pls copy this as your status if ur local. Thanks.

updated now he has been found by police :)
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Post by: tangodude on June 29, 2011, 07:29:45 AM
Just spent a pleasant break in Llandudno. The weather helps, of course, but it is one of my favorite seaside towns. It is showing the effects of the recession, with more than a few empty shops in the town centre, but it still has a lot going for it. Some great pubs - the Kings Arms, the Queen Victoria, the Cottage Loaf........and I had a great meal at the Lilly on West Shore. No gripes, really, although 2.50 to drive round the Orme came as a bit of a shock.

As locals, you probably don't appreciate what you've got, which is one of the best resorts in the UK. Don't knock it!
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Post by: Yorkie on June 29, 2011, 08:46:12 AM
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No gripes, really, although 2.50 to drive round the Orme came as a bit of a shock.

Most people are quite happy to pay the £2.50 Toll to enjoy one of the most interesting experiences that Llandudno has to offer.    Marine Drive has been a Toll Road since 1878 or thereabouts and all the income is ringfenced and used to maintain the facility.   The Toll Fee also covers parking charges at the Summit so one does get double value.

If you have a relative buried on the Orme, the Council issue a Cemetery Pass free of charge to relatives of the intered person.  Annual Season Tickets are also available at a very reasonable cost.

If one's desire is ONLY to drive round, then many would still consider the fee good value.  :D
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Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 10:45:50 PM
I noticed today that the flower display at the Boulevard roundabout had been reduced in size by about 70% and the rest of the area grassed over. Looks pretty rubbish now.  :(
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
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  Annual Season Tickets are also available at a very reasonable cost.


How do I get one of those?
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Post by: dingo20 on July 01, 2011, 08:44:34 AM
http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/ (http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/)

Good luck to them hope it's very successful
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Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2011, 08:48:22 AM
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http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/ (http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/)

Good luck to them hope it's very successful
Yes, hope they do well.  ££$
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Post by: suepp on July 01, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
I'll definitely be  giving a try! (with the Grandchildren!)
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Post by: Blodyn on July 01, 2011, 02:50:55 PM
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How do I get one of those?

Contact Parking Services at CCBC. 
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Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
I went past the Coach Park earlier and it was good to see that the cafe was looking very smart, a most definite improvement. The people working in the cafe have not started tidying up all the flower beds around the coach park as well and are  doing a very good job.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on July 02, 2011, 07:37:53 AM
The sun is shining on Heaven today. Z**
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Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Who's he??? ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on July 02, 2011, 04:48:32 PM
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Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 06:05:34 PM
Another beautiful day in Llandudno:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5159/5894526350_f77abb8a4a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5894526350/)
Yachts in the Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5894526350/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Barbiroli on July 02, 2011, 06:10:17 PM
Lovely photo Dave, We are so lucky to live in a place like this.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 02, 2011, 06:56:21 PM
I agree, but it is just a pity that we can't enjoy it!   I tried to park in town today to take a stroll along the prom and despite having a blue badge I found it impossible to park anywhere.  After a fruitless search for a space we came home and sat in the garden!   

Game, set and match to the tourists!    8)
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Post by: TheMedz on July 02, 2011, 09:40:04 PM
Great photo Dave. Were you afloat to take it?
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Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
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Great photo Dave. Were you afloat to take it?
Thank you. It would have been very pleasant to have been in a boat today but I was just on the beach by the paddling pool using a zoom lens.  :)
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Post by: SDQ on July 02, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Great pic, good view of the Orme in the background right up to Bay View Terrace with Llwynon Rd going up to the left.
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Post by: Fester on July 02, 2011, 11:18:39 PM
Indeed, one of those blissful evenings in the bay tonight.

Where it is calm and still enough for people to enjoy a night on thier boats anchored in the bay, and the sunset is beautiful against the Little Orme.

My camera phone at 10pm tonight can't really do it justice, but you get the general idea.



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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 12:17:28 AM
Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?
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Post by: Fester on July 03, 2011, 12:21:36 AM
I maintain that he was definitely insane... apart from the tambourine and the ridiculous prancing,   he had an Elvis T-shirt under a tweed jacket,  and the worst comb-over I have seen in 20 years.

He definitely should not have been out on his own.
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Post by: TheMedz on July 03, 2011, 12:42:35 AM
Hair in the community?
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Post by: TheMedz on July 03, 2011, 12:53:20 AM
We must have out there about 15 minutes before you. We had just been for a fabulous meal at East for the second week running.(visits home from 2 sons = 2 excuses for taking them out for a meal!)  I recommend the crispy duck in Plum Sauce
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 05:59:09 AM
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Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?

Anyone got a video of him?  L0L
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Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 08:54:32 AM

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Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?

I think he was just a happy chappy - pity more people aren't like this, it would brighten up an otherwise troubled World! 

Maybe I should get out there with my Kilt and bagpipes!    L0L   
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Post by: suepp on July 03, 2011, 12:08:40 PM
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I maintain that he was definitely insane... apart from the tambourine and the ridiculous prancing,   he had an Elvis T-shirt under a tweed jacket,  and the worst comb-over I have seen in 20 years.

He definitely should not have been out on his own.

was he actually doing himself or anyone else any harm?

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Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
This must be his Dad    L0L

Praise God with Timbrel and Dance hr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwzhTlDnss#)
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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 06:14:01 PM
Another glorious day, and an opportunity for me to highlight the shameful situation of the LLANDUDNO letters in Happy Valley that are viewed by tens of thousands of people every year from the Pier covered with concrete instead of colourful flowers.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5271/5897953230_36c989a6a5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5897953230/)
LLANDUDNO (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5897953230/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Nemesis on July 03, 2011, 06:27:41 PM
Were you down at the other end of the prom Dave? There were some excellent cars to look at !
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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 07:39:20 PM
I missed them, unfortunately, as I was on the boat trip that goes round the Bay. I did see all the Scooters that were by the Cenotaph.

Boat Trip to Little Orme:
1) A look at Villa Marina from the sea.
2) Close up look at the Elephant's head on the Little Orme
3) Angel Bay from the sea
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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 08:04:37 PM
One of the customised Lambrettas on the Prom this afternoon:
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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 08:28:04 PM
A tale of two towns....

Two photos are attached to this post; the first one shows the seafront gardens at Llandudno this week. The second shows the seafront gardens at another seaside resort, Eastbourne, this week. Can anyone spot any discernible difference in the effort the respective local councils make?  _))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 08:48:30 PM
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A tale of two towns....

Two photos are attached to this post; the first one shows the seafront gardens at Llandudno this week. The second shows the seafront gardens at another seaside resort, Eastbourne, this week. Can anyone spot any discernible difference in the effort the respective local councils make?  _))*

Embarrasing really :-[  I wonder how the two towns parks and gardens budgets compare?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 08:54:39 PM
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Were you down at the other end of the prom Dave? There were some excellent cars to look at !

I was there 8) 

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030049.jpg)

This Triumph Vitesse had very shiny paint!
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030045.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030036.jpg)

There was also a trailer enthusiasts meeting going on (er indoors made me put this on! I think it was something to do with the sailing dingys :laugh: )


(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030057.jpg)
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Post by: Trojan on July 04, 2011, 12:58:30 AM
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There was also a trailer enthusiasts meeting going on (er indoors made me put this on! I think it was something to do with the sailing dingys :laugh: )

 L0L
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Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 01:08:47 AM
I can see your Mrs in the shiny bonnet.... but I can't see you taking the picture!

Where you off further up the prom, dancing with your tambourine?

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 06:27:57 AM
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I can see your Mrs in the shiny bonnet.... but I can't see you taking the picture!

Where you off further up the prom, dancing with your tambourine?



 L0L  no I'd forgotten my tambourine yesterday  ; :P  I carefully lined myself up with the central bonnet strip when I took the picture  ;D
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Post by: Ian on July 04, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
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Can anyone spot any discernible difference in the effort the respective local councils make?

What's also interesting is that the two towns probably attract a very similar demographic .
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Post by: Nemesis on July 04, 2011, 09:15:33 AM
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Were you down at the other end of the prom Dave? There were some excellent cars to look at !

I was there 8) 

You don't say ! Glad you didn't get me in your pics ! And you actually met Clive !!
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Post by: Trojan on July 04, 2011, 09:22:42 AM
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I can see your Mrs in the shiny bonnet.... but I can't see you taking the picture!

Where you off further up the prom, dancing with your tambourine?



 L0L  no I'd forgotten my tambourine yesterday  ; :P  I carefully lined myself up with the central bonnet strip when I took the picture  ;D

Have you been on a diet?  :o
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Post by: Nemesis on July 04, 2011, 09:24:06 AM
Doesn't need to ! He can easily hide behind the bonnet strip.
 That is meant as a compliment M.E.!! ;D _))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 09:25:39 AM
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Have you been on a diet?  :o
   

No never been on a diet in my life  D)   it was just the way the relections worked  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 09:27:38 AM
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Doesn't need to ! He can easily hide behind the bonnet strip.
 That is meant as a compliment M.E.!! ;D _))*

You would be amazed how much I eat to stay thin  L0L  $dins$
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Post by: TheMedz on July 04, 2011, 10:19:10 AM
Just spotted Huw Edwards being filmed on the Tram up the Orme. Has anyone any ideas of any forthcoming TV series he might be making, that we can look out for?
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 04, 2011, 12:06:13 PM
Thanks so much for all the beautiful photos. you post Dave you've got such a good eye - the other ones probably good too.

Yesterday morning, Sunday, I walked round the Marine Drive as it was so warm and beautiful.  So quiet and the water still ,well apart from the mechanised arm chairs whizzing above my head and those stupid little speed boat thingys.  I pity anyone living in Llys Helig Drive with all the racket going on.

I did my best impression of a police man and stepped out in front of a car which was going the wrong way along Marine Drive - above the gun sight before the houses start.  He ground to a halt and I said - he was English in his 50's - didn't you see the huge No Entry signs you are going the wrong way.  You'll get killed.  He said petulantly well how do you get round don't tell me we've got to drive through Llandudno?  I told him to reverse which he wouldn't do.  Luckily two cars came up behind me and were laughing at him.  So he then tried in his long open top Mercedes to do a 29 point turn and you know how wide the road is.  His wife told him to stop pratting around.  Where can I turn he growled.  Down there where it says No Entry I said.  men honestly.....!
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Post by: Blodyn on July 04, 2011, 01:18:10 PM
Well done, Llechwedd!
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Post by: dwsi on July 04, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
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Just spotted Huw Edwards being filmed on the Tram up the Orme. Has anyone any ideas of any forthcoming TV series he might be making, that we can look out for?

He is currently filming 'The Story Of Wales' for the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/06_june/23/wales.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/06_june/23/wales.shtml)
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Post by: TheMedz on July 04, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
Thanks dwsi.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
We saw a great sunset on Sunday evening

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030003.jpg)
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Post by: Blodyn on July 04, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
Lovely picture, Merddin Emrys. 
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Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2011, 08:12:38 AM
Nice one, ME!  $good$
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Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:32:48 AM
Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
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Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:

it's disa 'pier' ed  L0L

Fester ate it after his hunger strike became too much $dins$  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2011, 09:47:34 AM
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Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:
Didn't you know? It's been sold to the Chinese and they have had it disassembled and shipped over to Fangcheng...
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Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:55:42 AM
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Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:
Didn't you know? It's been sold to the Chinese and they have had it disassembled and shipped over to Fangcheng...

 :o There's a large black market in imported piers at the moment.
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Post by: wrex on July 06, 2011, 03:58:23 PM
 ;)Iloved Daves picture comparing Llandudno and Eastbourne,just goes to show what commitment there is to tourism,were ever they can stop cutting grass or get rid of a few more flower beds then they will.the best example is the Llandudno sign in the Happy Valley,lets hope the FOTHV get flowers back in there for next year. Z**
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Post by: Trojan on July 06, 2011, 11:30:12 PM
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;)Iloved Daves picture comparing Llandudno and Eastbourne,just goes to show what commitment there is to tourism,were ever they can stop cutting grass or get rid of a few more flower beds then they will.the best example is the Llandudno sign in the Happy Valley,lets hope the FOTHV get flowers back in there for next year. Z**

Bring back Llandudno Urban District Council!
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Post by: suepp on July 07, 2011, 11:29:15 PM
Earlier this evening at Deganwy, sorry its a bit small, it's from my phone
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Post by: dingo20 on July 08, 2011, 08:22:15 AM
Just come back from walking the dog up past the back of The Orme Golf (no 1 hole) and there are two tents pitched on the fairway. Has Mike got side line going on? I noticed the other morning around 20-25 goats (i tried to count them they kept moving) saves mowing it!
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Post by: TheMedz on July 08, 2011, 09:01:33 AM
The goats are going soft these days if they've started sleeping in tents. I do hope the tents are not the solution achieved to solve another Orme resident's short term accommodation problems for his builders :)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 08, 2011, 09:29:17 AM
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The goats are going soft these days if they've started sleeping in tents. I do hope the tents are not the solution achieved to solve another Orme resident's short term accommodation problems for his builders :)
L0L
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Post by: ormegolf on July 08, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
Two tents around the first hole?  h u dont know     anthing    about  t h   a$t.  S orry a out typing. Some frechgus  f orsed    a  bottle of    n ce french  w ne o n 2 me this a m
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Post by: suepp on July 08, 2011, 09:13:44 PM
 ZXZ ;D Love it!
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Post by: Fester on July 08, 2011, 09:41:51 PM
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The goats are going soft these days if they've started sleeping in tents. I do hope the tents are not the solution achieved to solve another Orme resident's short term accommodation problems for his builders :)

Hmmm... stop giving me ideas!
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Post by: born2run on July 10, 2011, 09:53:49 AM
Llandudno Swimming Pool  $angry$

What a bloody mess! Fester will appreciate this, booked up from 12pm until 9pm for a "Swimming party" then "Swimming gala"
Apart from my own annoyance at paying £30 a month and not being able to swim on what should be a peak day - I also saw in the 45 minutes or so I was at the gym tons of people going in and walking straight back out obviously beingtold they couldn't swim.

Who the hell decides it's acceptable to book out a PUBLIC swimming pool for a private party on one of the busiest saturdays of the year??
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Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2011, 04:44:22 PM
Sad to see a spate of sudden hotel closures this week. Two have shut their doors, with a third on the brink. Tough times for the small hotelier.  :(
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 10, 2011, 05:13:16 PM
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Sad to see a spate of sudden hotel closures this week. Two have shut their doors, with a third on the brink. Tough times for the small hotelier.  :(

Not in Llandudno, but not that far away!

'A chain of hotels run by businesswoman Stephanie Booth has gone into administration.

The development with Llangollen Hotels has led to the immediate closure of the Wynnstay Arms in Wrexham and the Fantastic Fun Houses in Mold and Wrexham.'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14066043 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14066043)

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Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2011, 05:25:49 PM
Makes you wonder how she would have got the money to buy Wrexham Football Club if her bid had been successful...?  :roll:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 10, 2011, 06:31:50 PM
must be why she pulled out of it, perhaps?
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Post by: suepp on July 10, 2011, 07:44:32 PM
The Anchor in Ruthin was open yesterday -  in fact the hotel side was full. Very quiet in the pub though, but that could have been due to ten local village pubs putting on the "Route 76" Beer festival by bus.  - or the fact that the BBC and the Daily Post had reported it to have closed. They have got plenty of bookings for the forseeable future, including a regular coachload from Russia.

The Wild Pheasant in Llangollen is still open, -(lovely hotel and they do good deals for spa days)  both are owned outright, the other businesses were leased.

They sold off the Castle Hotel Ruthin to JD Wetherspoons some time ago, but it remains empty and boarded up - which is very much an eyesore given its prominent position on the town Square  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 11, 2011, 12:21:26 AM
Having spent a lot of time in Ruthin, I am surprised that Wethersoons took the Castle Hotel Pub.

It was never a busy enough area (even at weekends) to merit a large chain pub, which requires to order in food and drink in bulk.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 11, 2011, 05:23:06 PM
they were going to turn it into a pub and hotel, which is needed in Ruthin - Only the Anchor, Ruthin Castle and one or two   B&B's provide accommodation at present. The Castle is always busy at weekends with weddings, and the Anchor often accommodate wedding guests from the castle and the regular influx of Russians.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 11, 2011, 07:27:06 PM
Just spotted the Royal Scotsman parked up in Llandudno. Fabulous train currently on a tour of Great Britain. Just look at the prices!

http://www.royalscotsman.com/web/rs/journeys/4_131550.jsp (http://www.royalscotsman.com/web/rs/journeys/4_131550.jsp)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 09:10:47 AM
Trams and cruise ships - The future of tourism in Conwy
by David Powell, DPW West Jul 12 2011
 
TRAMS, cruise ships and seagull-proof bins are all part of a major masterplan to revitalise tourism in an area where the industry is worth £600m.

Councillors will today be asked to back a “Destination Conwy” action plan aimed at drawing in visitors to spend money in the county.

One of the key proposals is to commission a feasibility study into whether it is possible to bring back traditional style trams to the county’s resorts.

The idea is they could be used by commuters and tourists, although no proposed routes have yet been decided.


The plan also wants a study to look at repairing and re-instating Llandudno Pier’s docking facility to be able to handle 700-passenger pleasure cruise ships from Liverpool and other ports. It could be used by the Waverley and Balmoral vessels, Isle of Man boats or coastal cruises, but Llandudno couldn’t take the large liners which berth at Holyhead.

Another task is to fit bird proof flaps to all litter bins and promote a “Do Not Feed the Seagulls” publicity campaign, in a bid to clean up the streets. Other schemes include improving the urban “evening economy”, and promoting the county’s “All The Little Shops” project to boost retailers, scrapping eyesore buildings, sprucing up public toilets in Llandudno, Conwy and Betws y Coed, and devising a register of approved street performers.

The plan also aims to develop “Sport Tourism”, particularly focusing on golf, mountain biking, cycling, rugby, walking and sailing.

And it includes boosting the profile of heritage sites like Conwy Castle and the Great Orme gun site artillery centre.

If approved, Conwy will work on the changes with a 15-member steering group made up of tourism operators.

Jim Jones, Conwy’s coastal community development spokesman, said the Council wants to work in partnership with the tourism industry.

Tourism already generates £600m a year in Conwy and employs 10,820 people in a county which has 70,000 bed spaces – that’s some 24% of the North Wales stock.

Conwy now has a destination manager, George Brookes, a destination development officer and a destination marketing officer. Mr Brookes will be a point of contact between the authority, tourism operators and the public.

Another task will be to keep records of “bed availability” across the county’s hotels and B&Bs. The council wants to encourage more people to use tourism trails throughout the county and wants to see more parks and coastal reserves cleaned up to get Green and Blue Flag status. It is also planning better tourism signage and more interactive information boards to be fitted at Tourist Information Centres.

Conwy’s Cabinet will be reminded in a report today that a lack of co-ordination was highlighted by the Welsh Audit Office in 2002. Officers tried to improve but only had “limited success”. An officer’s report will say that any lack of support for tourism this year could dent “potential benefits and growth” of the £600m-a-year industry.

North Wales Tourism spokesman Chris Jackson, also administrative director of the Welsh Mountain Zoo, welcomed the plan, but added: “We would like a harmonised approach with all the local authorities in North Wales so visitors enjoy consistently high standards.”

Full PDF document is here (9mb): http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000171/M00002707/AI00025273/AppendixBEnglishDestinationDocument.pdf (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000171/M00002707/AI00025273/AppendixBEnglishDestinationDocument.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 12, 2011, 10:11:43 AM
Wouldn't it cost a fortune to create a tram network surely better ways to spend money to increase trade? I have friends who come over to Llandudno and Conwy to visit from all part of the UK, but mainly from the Manchester area. They all say the same thing after 6pm the town centres shut down so they all go home or back to their hotels/B&Bs. I had family who spent an hour looking for an ice cream after 5:30 and gave up in the end. Conwy county needs a better plans than this we need to be bringing in a better range of tourists, like young families, younger day & evening trippers maybe create a festive like local music or jazz/blues. I can't get excited about this plans seems like same old same old. :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 10:31:52 AM
I agree; any sort of Tram system would cost many millions and would be unfeasible given how busy modern roads are. How about hiring a  fleet of vintage buses and having a scenic route from Conwy to Colwyn Bay via Llandudno instead?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 12, 2011, 10:38:01 AM
What happened to the road train in Conwy? Did they bloc k it
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 12, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
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Wouldn't it cost a fortune to create a tram network surely better ways to spend money to increase trade?

It would cost quite a bit - probably the same as the sea defence works in Colwyn Bay - but there's something quite special about riding in trams, and wherever they've been reintroduced in the UK they've become tourist attractions in their own right.  However, tracks could be relaid along Gloddaeth Ave, then the prom - a la Blackpool - then through Bodafon fields.  The only real issue would be the hill between Llandudno and Penrhyn Beach, and that could simply be single track, running at the centre of the downhill lane, thus allowing traffic to co-exist.  Once at the bootom, it would return to the the prom, for the length to Old Colwyn.

There would be some inconvenience to cars, certainly, but it would go a long way to reinforcing the more sedate pace of life in the area and I'd bet it would bring in quite a lot of visitors. .

If someone suggested building it now, the nay-sayers would say that the Great Orme tram was a non starter, but just look at how that brings people in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 11:24:32 AM
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It would cost quite a bit
Probably the understatement of the month!  WWW  Light rail systems cost a minimum of $15m (so say £10m) a MILE. You're looking at over £100m easily, and possibly much more. Remember the reason the original Tramway isn't still around is because it went bust due to competition from buses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 12, 2011, 11:52:11 AM
to think, there used to be a great tramway here and in the good old days of the Llandudno Urban District Council great rides on great old buses (Marine Drive and the Circular tour) I like DaveR's  idea of hiring vintage buses, it could combine with the current Marine Drive Tour  D)

Where did it all go wrong?....   (still a great place though! :) )
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 12, 2011, 01:41:09 PM
The delivery of water to the standing steam train yesterday has badly damaged the station platform.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 12, 2011, 02:40:41 PM
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Light rail systems cost a minimum of $15m (so say £10m) a MILE.

That's assuming land purchasing - the biggest element - ground levelling and much more.  A local tramway could operate on the proms and public highway, which would slash the capital investment required, plus the fact that Tram systems - although incurring initially higher capital costs than buses - recoup this through greater reliability, prolonged life and passenger attraction.  Can't imagine too many making a special trip to Llandudno to ride a bus....  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 06:29:19 PM
Hmmm...how many towns of Llandudno's size have had a tram system built in the last 50 years?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 06:36:02 PM
Two things I noticed in town today...the Cashpoint at Lloyds Bank was out of action and it looked as though it had been attacked, the bit where the cash comes out was melted away. Secondly, there seems to be a Lifeboat launching trial taking place next to the Paddling Pool.
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Post by: Ian on July 12, 2011, 06:48:46 PM
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Hmmm...how many towns of Llandudno's size have had a tram system built in the last 50 years?

Good reason to start the ball rolling...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 12, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
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Two things I noticed in town today...the Cashpoint at Lloyds Bank was out of action and it looked as though it had been attacked, the bit where the cash comes out was melted away. Secondly, there seems to be a Lifeboat launching trial taking place next to the Paddling Pool.

I saw the destroyed cashpoint too, all burnt out.....  there was a sign attached saying ''out of order''   The most pointless sign in the history of the world I thought.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 12, 2011, 11:13:44 PM
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I saw the destroyed cashpoint too, all burnt out.....  there was a sign attached saying ''out of order''   The most pointless sign in the history of the world I thought.


how about this one?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on July 14, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Absolutely gorgeous and if anyone knows how to keep this beautiful weather for the next two days I would be most grateful!
My sister is staying in Llandudno for the weekend to clebrate her 20th wedding anniversary.
Fingers crossed but the forecast is bad.
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Post by: wrex on July 14, 2011, 04:08:59 PM
 ;) Im of to Sandwich for the open golf, so when i get back i expect the water feature in the happy valley to be working, the flower beds that CCBC have left to have been weeded, the Arena to be booked up with gigs and at least one shop to have been occupied.I can dream. :-*
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Post by: Hugo on July 14, 2011, 04:21:05 PM
There was a lot of activity with the lifeboat going on just beyond the paddling pool on the Promenade today. I didn't stay there long enough to find out what exactly was going on but noticed that there were a number of prominent signs in that area of the prom that said there was to be no parking there on Saturday and Sunday.    ???
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Post by: Hugo on July 14, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
Saw a repeat on BBC 2 last night of the Great British Railway Journeys and it covered Llandudno.  Excellent filming of Llandudno but a pity about the Railway Station which is an eyesore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2011, 04:58:09 PM
Hugo, I am sure I read somewhere they were carrying out a test over at Craigside I suspect for a new lifeboat station.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
Yes, it has been a beautiful day again.

We strolled down the promenade and then the pier stopping off for a coffee.

I did something what I have been meaning to do for while and timed the little kiddies’ balloon ride on the pier and noticed for £1.50 per kiddie and the ride always lasts 2 minutes and 45 seconds before cutting off

The speed boat from the jetty lasted 7 minutes and cost only £4 per person.

After having been on the sped boat for the first time earlier this month I would definitely recommend it.

Next, my first trip on the cable cars.    ;D

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Post by: Pendragon on July 14, 2011, 05:50:55 PM
Oooh Bri I went on those cable cars a few years ago and the kids thought it was funny to rock the car..............needless to say I haven't been on them again nor will I.   ;D  Not even I'm that brave.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 14, 2011, 05:55:32 PM
Re the lifeboat
Flying_Shannon.MPG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcTXJ7UGVg#)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 14, 2011, 11:00:29 PM
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Oooh Bri I went on those cable cars a few years ago and the kids thought it was funny to rock the car..............needless to say I haven't been on them again nor will I.   ;D  Not even I'm that brave.

The Cable Car is a fantastic ride, its blissful on a day like this.... and well worth the £7.00 return fare.
Think of it as £3.50,  for a brilliant ride, and same again to get back down.

I wish it would operate more often, I only get chance to ride it a couple of times a year... but I have been on it a couple of times in the last two weeks.
Thats probably it for me until next year, unfortunately.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on July 15, 2011, 12:21:14 AM
A few years ago my mother and I had a ride up in the cablecar with a sandbag for company.  I think that the wind must have been borderline for operating and the sandbag was to stabilise the cablecar if empty. 

When we were children, my sister and I used to urge our father to "Look how high up we are, Daddy!"  He disliked heights and didn't have much inclination to look down.  However, if you don't mind heights it's a lovely rides, as Fester says, and it's so quiet. 
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Post by: Trojan on July 15, 2011, 01:04:57 AM
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There was a lot of activity with the lifeboat going on just beyond the paddling pool on the Promenade today.

Do they have a new tractor? I have not seen that one before.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
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There was a lot of activity with the lifeboat going on just beyond the paddling pool on the Promenade today.

Do they have a new tractor? I have not seen that one before.  :)
It's a new one they're testing. I think it's also to see if a Lifeboat can be launched successfully at that point, to see if a Lifeboat Station there may be feasible.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2011, 09:46:29 PM
Due to the torrential rain all day today, the Triathlon was not quite the crowd puller that was hoped for:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 17, 2011, 10:36:58 PM
DaveR, as a result of the bad weather, I have an idea today's triathlon was eventually only a duathlon. 
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
I believe the swim was cancelled but they did an additional run instead.  :)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2011, 03:13:01 AM
I only quoted what I heard over the tannoy when I drove past late morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2011, 12:08:35 PM
There was an attempt earlier today to steal the cash machine at Carmens Convenience Store in Craig Y Don. Lots of police activity there at the moment.
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Post by: Micox on July 18, 2011, 06:02:57 PM
Well if it's convenient, it's convenient!  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
Courtesy of Tudno Fm's Twitter:

If you had Wedding Photos, family portraits etc, taken by Image Gallery Photographers formerly of Upper Mostyn st, Llandudno and have not been able to collect them due the shop closing, please Inbox TudnoFM as the landlord has found quite a lot and is happy for people to collect them!

I understand the Photographers vacated the premises in something of a hurry a few months ago and decided to take the carpet and electric sockets with them. Nice.
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Post by: wrex on July 20, 2011, 08:09:35 AM
  :-[   So Mr Williams of the Hospitality Assoc has spoken up and what has he come up with,Llandudno needs a multi-story car park,who would spend millions in Llandudno on a car park ,hope someone tells him there is a new car park going on the station .Now Mr Williams why don;t you bring up your utter disgust at the Pier Pavillion fiasco as the chief of Llandudno;s tourist assoc instead of bleating on about a non starter,the whole town is run by BAFOONS.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 20, 2011, 09:37:41 AM
Why does he think we need another car park? Don't we have one in the centre of town plus the new one at the station plus the two car parks at Moyston Champs and the B&Q retail park (can't think of the name). I think he needs to get his head from up his own backside and represent his members, what a plonker!
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Post by: DaveR on July 20, 2011, 11:52:07 AM
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?
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Post by: Yorkie on July 20, 2011, 07:47:51 PM
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  :-[   So Mr Williams of the Hospitality Assoc has spoken up and what has he come up with,Llandudno needs a multi-story car park,who would spend millions in Llandudno on a car park ,hope someone tells him there is a new car park going on the station .   

I think we have known since the year dot that Llandudno needs to do something about its traffic problem.  More parking is not the answer.  Parking outside of the town is what we need.   Park and Ride has been spoken of but to my mind not with enough thought.

Llandudno is not the only place with a traffic and parking problem, Colwyn Bay has a lesser problem and Conwy has an increasing problem.

I think a Park and Ride could be set up (and more important a viable solution) by having a P & R system to service all three areas with a circular journey in both directions.   All that is required is a suitable piece of land within the triangle of the Three Towns, such as the strip alongside the A470 between the Junction and  Llandudno.

It could be called the Three Towns Park and Ride!!!   ZXZ   What does everybody else think?   WWW
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Post by: SDQ on July 20, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
It would have to be linked to the A55 somewhere central so what about one of the fields around the Mochdre area?
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Post by: Fester on July 21, 2011, 12:26:55 AM
First, I think that more needs to be built and created to give people a reason to bring their cars here...

Before you build more carparks, build more attractions!

The amount of signs in hotel windows saying 'VACANCIES' in July is pretty alarming.

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Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2011, 09:25:50 AM
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The amount of signs in hotel windows saying 'VACANCIES' in July is pretty alarming.


One of the reasons for this is that since the completion of the A55 Expressway and the M56 Llandudno has become within the day trip limit from as far away as Birmingham and Sheffield etc.   The increase in day trip coach traffic over the past years has been a testament to this.

Irrespective of vacancies in hotels the traffic problem still exists.  Before increasing this problem by attracting more visitors we have to ensure that the infrastructure is in place to cope with the numbers!   Also Llandudno is a centre for tourism in North Wales and it is not just local attractions that bring people here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Before we spend all this money, it's worth nothing that car journeys are actually falling in response to high fuel prices. 30% of drivers have cut down on longer car journeys. This is a trend that can surely only continue as oil supplies diminish? Perhaps we should be thinking about building a bigger Railway Station instead?  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089)
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Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2011, 10:19:14 AM
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Before we spend all this money, it's worth nothing that car journeys are actually falling in response to high fuel prices. 30% of drivers have cut down on longer car journeys. This is a trend that can surely only continue as oil supplies diminish? Perhaps we should be thinking about building a bigger Railway Station instead?  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089)

I somewhat agree with what you say but for a family of 4 it is still much cheaper (and more convenent) to travel by car!   Before the railway comes back into its own, people will have to change their mentality about having a door to door service!    ;)

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Post by: dingo20 on July 21, 2011, 10:42:53 AM
Park and ride seems like a good idea what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester which stop at all the tram and rail way stations and the main attractions within the city. You could extend this to Colwyn Bay and Rhyl which would encourage the need for people not to use their cars. With families you can get a family rail card which is about £ 10 (this could've gone up) this give 2 for 1 on some tickets. What about a taxi pick up linked in with the hotel / B&B's deals they offer. I did see one hotel in Colwyn Bay that offers a home pick up drop off and day trips using their own vehicles, good idea? Add a suppliment to cover fuel?
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Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 10:50:48 AM
Many people are not aware of a scheme called Groupsave, whereby 3 or 4 people can travel by train for the price of 2. Applies to any destination in the UK, single or return.

"GroupSave offers the opportunity for three or four people (minimum one adult) to travel for the price that two adults would normally pay on various off-peak ticket types. Up to four additional children can accompany the main party, and travel at the flat fare of £1 each, single or return (not valid on ScotRail). In addition two children under the age of five can travel free of charge with each fare paying passenger."

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr354fdc0a0400020101fea1769fbf60/details.html (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr354fdc0a0400020101fea1769fbf60/details.html)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 10:53:52 AM
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I somewhat agree with what you say but for a family of 4 it is still much cheaper (and more convenent) to travel by car!   Before the railway comes back into its own, people will have to change their mentality about having a door to door service!    ;)



It will be along time before I'm forced out of using cars (probably never!), I love travelling in my own space and don't forget two thirds of the petrol price is tax  :rage: :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 11:07:49 AM
There's always the Segway....
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Post by: dingo20 on July 21, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
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There's always the Segway....

As I said just the other day, I'd love a go on one of them  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
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What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

there's an idea, remove the horse from the trap and fit an engine! wonder if anyone's tried that yet?  ^*^0
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Post by: Trojan on July 21, 2011, 12:24:26 PM
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What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

there's an idea, remove the horse from the trap and fit an engine! wonder if anyone's tried that yet?  ^*^0

Yes they have. It was called a Horseless Carriage. The forerunner of the modern motor car.  :D
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Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
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There's always the Segway....

As I said just the other day, I'd love a go on one of them  :laugh:
Just looking at their UK website. The main model, the i2, has a 24 mile range and top speed of 12.5mph. Would be ideal for the cycle track along the Prom!
http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5 (http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5)
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Post by: Trojan on July 21, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
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I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
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Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 01:20:39 PM
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I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.
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Post by: Trojan on July 21, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
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I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.

What's wrong with the sinage?  :-X
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
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Just looking at their UK website. The main model, the i2, has a 24 mile range and top speed of 12.5mph. Would be ideal for the cycle track along the Prom!
http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5 (http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5)

I can't get that page to load up for some reason, I still can't see why they are not legal here, when disabled buggies are allowed

'The Highway Act of 1835 renders the Segway PT illegal in the UK on pavements. They cannot be used where bicycles can (even electric bicycles) because they do not have pedals - and they cannot be used on the road as a motor vehicle because they do not meet any kind of permitted type approval in the UK. The only place they CAN be used is on private property (and only with the land owner's permission).'

http://www.legalisesegways.co.uk/ (http://www.legalisesegways.co.uk/)

they seem to me to be ideal for the prom etc

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 02:02:59 PM
I've just looked on Ebay at Segways and they are not cheap :o I would not want to leave it anywhere at these prices!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Segway-i2-Transporter-bonus-brand-new-fast-ship-/180696528979?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a125a3853 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Segway-i2-Transporter-bonus-brand-new-fast-ship-/180696528979?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a125a3853)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
I thought the blonde came with it!    L0L

Nearer to £5k in the UK!   Lot of money for a couple of gyroscopes!     >>>
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Post by: Fester on July 21, 2011, 11:08:02 PM
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I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.

What's wrong with the sinage?  :-X

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the signage at either Cafe Culture or the Chippie next door.
It is tasteful, in keeping with the conservation area, and unobtrusive.
Methinks that someone is being victimised... :-X :-X
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Post by: Trojan on July 22, 2011, 12:42:13 AM
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I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.

What's wrong with the sinage?  :-X

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the signage at either Cafe Culture or the Chippie next door.
It is tasteful, in keeping with the conservation area, and unobtrusive.
Methinks that someone is being victimised... :-X :-X


What again?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 09:06:59 AM
BT are upgrading the Llandudno Exchange to enable Broadband speeds of up to 20Mbps.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 22, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
Yes, I have just read that news in today's edition of the Daily Post but it doesn't say when.

Does anybody know the answer?
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Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 09:30:13 AM
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Yes, I have just read that news in today's edition of the Daily Post but it doesn't say when.

Does anybody know the answer?
Will be upgraded by next Spring.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 10:00:31 AM
What about Rhos on Sea exchange (which serves Penrhyn Bay) ?
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Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 10:02:42 AM
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What about Rhos on Sea exchange (which serves Penrhyn Bay) ?
No upgrade, as of yet. I get over 8Mbps in Colwyn Bay (which uses the Rhos exchange) and I find that more than enough.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
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What about Rhos on Sea exchange (which serves Penrhyn Bay) ?
No upgrade, as of yet. I get over 8Mbps in Colwyn Bay (which uses the Rhos exchange) and I find that more than enough.

We can only dream of such exotic speeds here in Penrhyn Bay!  currently it's 3.2Mbps which is not too bad for here!
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Post by: SDQ on July 22, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
No such luck where I live, 0.5Mbps and fingers crossed the signal holds long enough for me to get my online business done before it drops off.  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 01:54:44 PM
that is very very slow, unexcusable these days!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 01:56:27 PM
Just seen 3 dead seagulls together in the road on the North Shore, very odd, were they poisoned?
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Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 02:07:49 PM
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Just seen 3 dead seagulls together in the road on the North Shore, very odd, were they poisoned?
A suicide pact? Poisoned chips?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 02:30:41 PM
it's very odd, they didn't look like a car had hit them, more like they were dumped there, it was holding up the traffic!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 22, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
Hope they belong to the happy gang who wake me up at 4am and earlier every morning!
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Post by: TheMedz on July 22, 2011, 06:36:09 PM
Please let them be part of the seagull Riverdance troup or the seagull synchronised swimming team (if it's been raining) that perform on my dormer every morning from about the same time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
The Lloyds Bank Cashpoint is still out of action, must be two weeks since it was damaged. Surely it only takes a few days to send a new machine out and install it?  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 23, 2011, 10:01:37 AM
 ;) Why don;t we ask each block of hotels on the Promenade to adopt the flower beds infront of each block then we may get to Eastbourne;s standard,ok it lets CCBC off the hook but they don;t care anyway so what;s too lose. :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: poppy on July 23, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
Two large vans with adverts on the side, sitting on the prom in Rhos, advertising events in Llandudno.
Methinks the Llandudno area should be content with the numbers they already have.  :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2011, 11:22:45 PM
Things have come to a pretty pass when the flower displays in Rhyl are way ahead of Llandudno's:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2011, 08:23:00 AM
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what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester

Missed this earlier.  We had a hop-on, hop-off bus service: Arriva tried one with open-top double deckers for two years, and eventually gave up on it, because it never made any money. Never been quite sure why it didn't work.  Possibly the concept needed better explanations, or perhaps the weather for the past three years hasn't been the greatest for travelling on open top buses.  But something is needed. Apart from anything else, you need to separate traffic and pedestrians.  However, any innovatory scheme is going to require investment, and that's rather thin on the ground just now.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2011, 09:01:40 AM
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what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester

We had a hop-on, hop-off bus service: Arriva tried one with open-top double deckers for two years, and eventually gave up on it, because it never made any money.

The problem we have is not getting around - it is more where to park all the cars!    ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
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what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester

Missed this earlier.  We had a hop-on, hop-off bus service: Arriva tried one with open-top double deckers for two years, and eventually gave up on it, because it never made any money. Never been quite sure why it didn't work.  Possibly the concept needed better explanations, or perhaps the weather for the past three years hasn't been the greatest for travelling on open top buses.  But something is needed. Apart from anything else, you need to separate traffic and pedestrians.  However, any innovatory scheme is going to require investment, and that's rather thin on the ground just now.
That was an overpriced tourist tour, though, rather than a transport service. It was far too expensive for anyone to use it just as a means of getting from A to B. A free or low cost (all fares £1) bus service operating at 20 minute intervals would be a different proposition.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2011, 10:00:12 AM
Yes - I think they got several things wrong on it. But a modified, lower-cost version might have been very useful.  As you say, any public transport system has to run frequently to be of any real use.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 24, 2011, 05:15:12 PM
We were in Liverpool last Friday for the centenary celebrations for the Royal Liver Building and the opening of the new 'Museum of Liverpool' so decided to use the Hop-on Hop-off bus before we returned home

It was only £6 for an hour tour of the city and as our tickets lasted 24 hours, we went around for a second time and got off to see one or two attractions.

There is always going to be another bus coming along every 20 minutes.

Liverpool has become an excellent destination for day trippers especially down on the Waterfront.

Something Llandudno could learn a lot from.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 05:22:58 PM
It was Civic Sunday today and so I thought I would take some photos of this event. It was good to see so many Councillors turning out for the free meal ceremony.
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 05:24:22 PM
Some more photos:
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
It was also good to see in these times of cutbacks that money was found to hire two limousines to ferry the Mayor and entourage around. No need to save money when it's someone else's money you're spending, eh?  ;)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 24, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Was there a circus in town? looks like a few clowns around  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2011, 07:20:43 PM
The biggest laugh is the Mayor's Sergeant seen on the extreme left of the fourth photo of the second group.  When he retired from being the Town Hall Caretaker they gave him the Sergeant's job for some reason.  I have yet to discover what he does, but we do pay him the odd thousand(s) or so a year!    :D

David Jones seems to be pondering what it is all about!     ;)

Wonder how much it all cost including the bun fight after the parade!    Z**
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 09:29:16 PM
This yellow Double Decker was parked on the Prom this afternoon, preparing for the 'Jagger & Woody Breakfast Show' tomorrow morning LIVE from Llandudno!

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5971083779_a4f6c76eb5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5971083779/)
Jagger &amp; Woody (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5971083779/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
I am currently trapped in Langtrys bar thanks to Fester - its like going back in time to 1973. Please can someone rescue me? :o WWW
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Post by: Nemesis on July 25, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
Why are you trapped? Are your feet stuck to the floor? Or shall I ring for the coastguard? Or the Lifeboat? _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 25, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
He was trapped because he drinks too slowly, and is too tight to waste beer....  Z**

So, he would rather sit through a cheesy comedian and singer... his fault not mine!
The more you drink the better the singer sounds, I always find.

Anyhow, Dave loved it really... next stop The British Legion, The RAOB club, ...and then the West Shore Social Club!   ZXZ ZXZ
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Post by: Nemesis on July 25, 2011, 10:08:09 PM
OMG Don't wake me up on your way home !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
The Elms Hotel up by the Pier roundabout has gone up for sale, on the instructions of the Receivers. Shame, its in a great spot and looks very pleasant. Built in 1881 and yours for £450,000 for the residue of the 2,000 year lease.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
I had intended to go for a walk on the Great Orme today but as I drove to Llandudno I could see that the clouds were very low so I opted for a drive over the Orme instead
I drove down past St Tudno's Church and there was a gang in high visibility vests who were offenders in the community so it was nice to see them doing something worthwhile there.  I stopped on the zig zag road and as there was no one in the toll booth I drove around the Marine Drive for free.    ;D
At the Rest and Be Thankful I enjoyed a coffee latte and cake and as the weather deteriorated further I got in my car to drive home.
A camera crew passed me and I could see them setting up the equipment on the other side of the road to the R and BT.  As I drove more and more crew came past and around the corner were about 4 people all in anoraks with their hoods up but I'm sure one of them looked like Iolo Williams so perhaps they were filming something for the BBC.
It's a pity they weren't there yesterday as the day would have been perfect for filming.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2011, 01:20:43 PM
Were you wearing shorts? If so I drove past you by the old tea gardens.If not someone else had stopped , got out of the car and was peering over the edge ! Got caught in that mist walking the dog, so cut my own walk short, now trying to dry the washing whilst the rain pelts on the roof.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2011, 01:23:36 PM
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I stopped on the zig zag road and as there was no one in the toll booth I drove around the Marine Drive for free.    ;D

The Toll Booth at the bottom of the Zig-zag is never manned so it is now always free from this point to West Shore.    ZXZ
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Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2011, 01:34:35 PM
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I stopped on the zig zag road and as there was no one in the toll booth I drove around the Marine Drive for free.    ;D

The Toll Booth at the bottom of the Zig-zag is never manned so it is now always free from this point to West Shore.    ZXZ

How long has it been like that then Yorkie as it doesn't seem that long since I was chatting to the guy who was in the booth?     ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 28, 2011, 01:54:50 PM
Don't forget that for just £15 you can have a pass for 12 months that includes parking at the summit, bargain!  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
My OH is friendly with the toll keeper by the pier and the toll booth at the bottom of the zig-zag hasn't been manned this season or last.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on July 28, 2011, 02:51:03 PM
Probably down to some bright spark on this forum pointing out to the world that there's  a bloke with a good deal of cash sat in a booth miles from anywhere! :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
The Zig-zag Toll never did take much money.  It was more a deterant to stop people getting a free trip round by going via the tram track and zig-zag route.   The Toll at this point started in about 1993 and ran until 2 years ago and as far as I know there was never any serious problems.
 Z**
   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2011, 03:27:21 PM
And to think that I've been walking around the Great Orme all this time so I don't have to pay a toll charge!    ;)

Anyway has anyone got any info on the film crew that was filming opposite the R and BT?  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 29, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
Apparently, they're making a reality show in which 3 'celebs' navigate their way around the Orme and over to Liverpool using traditional methods.  They filmed at the R & BT cafe, then were taken down to the pier, from where they were supposed to sail on a small boat to Liverpool landing stage.  The show's working title is "All roads lead to home" and will be on BBC2.
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Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2011, 11:10:25 AM
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Were you wearing shorts? If so I drove past you by the old tea gardens.If not someone else had stopped , got out of the car and was peering over the edge ! Got caught in that mist walking the dog, so cut my own walk short, now trying to dry the washing whilst the rain pelts on the roof.

Yes, that must have been me. I was looking to see if anyone was in the Toll Booth and then watched your car going past the toll booth before I headed down there myself.
Did you notice the film crew on your drive around the Orme Nemesis?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 29, 2011, 11:38:54 AM
No I didn't, as I passed the cafe the mist was rolling down so much that I put my headlights on , so was probably looking the other way !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on July 29, 2011, 11:54:11 AM
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Apparently, they're making a reality show in which 3 'celebs' navigate their way around the Orme and over to Liverpool using traditional methods.  They filmed at the R & BT cafe, then were taken down to the pier, from where they were supposed to sail on a small boat to Liverpool landing stage.  The show's working title is "All roads lead to home" and will be on BBC2.

I understand that the programme makers are sending the three "celebrities" on a journey through Wales, passing through Llandudno.  They are supposed to be travelling without maps or compasses and navigating by the landscape, sun, etc.   One of the researchers for the programme made some enquiries about St. Tudno's, with a view to including it in the programme, but we haven't heard any more so we've obviously been left out.  They wanted to know whether the altar is in the east of the church (it is), whether the graves face east (most of them do, apart from those which seem to have been "fitted in" as space allowed) and whether the graves of priests face west, i.e. facing their congregation.  I've only recently learnt about the latter tradition from a friend at a village church in England and other people I've mentioned it to have been as ignorant as me.  I went around the churchyard and checked all the clergy graves (about 20 of them) but it was all very democratic - they faced the same way as everyone else.  Perhaps the researchers found another church on the route which fitted all the criteria, though once one has found the east it's surely not necessary to find the west too but I suppose it would give them more to talk about in the programme. 
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Post by: dwsi on July 31, 2011, 07:11:53 PM
BBC News - £5m Mostyn gallery redesign wins Eisteddfod medal http://bbc.in/o5Limf (http://bbc.in/o5Limf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 01, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
 :( I am not quite sure how many cuts have been made in the CCBC parks dept, but considering its the hight of the season our grass and flower beds have been left unweeded and uncut and it all looks a mess,Either CCBC parks dept are only concentrating on Conwy and Colwyn Bay or they have nobody to look after Llandudno. :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2011, 08:03:24 PM
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:( I am not quite sure how many cuts have been made in the CCBC parks dept, but considering its the hight of the season our grass and flower beds have been left unweeded and uncut and it all looks a mess,Either CCBC parks dept are only concentrating on Conwy and Colwyn Bay or they have nobody to look after Llandudno. :rage:
Very true, Wrex. I don't see why the Town Council can't save the £4000+ cost of the Civic Sunday event and spend that on enhancing the flower displays around town? Something that all the people could appreciate, not just the chosen few...  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 01, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
 :roll::) Because Dave they don;t give a damn, they only see things they want to, take the xmas lights ,not one agreed with me that they were crap,not one,these flower beds and grass won;t have been noticed by any of them.Why are there no lines on this new cycle path,cars are parking on the cyclepath on Maesdu rd and the reason no lines and when you reach the rugby field there is a sign telling you to dismount,what sort of cyclepath tells you to get of your bike,mad. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2011, 08:59:54 PM
I see that the local morons had been busy on Friday or Saturday night, windows were smashed in both Marks & Spencer and the Taylors clothes shop (in The Mall shopping arcade).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2011, 06:04:17 PM
Several people have commented to me lately about the street traders that have appeared in Llandudno. First, there was the Jewellery guy often to be found outside RBS, now there is the Temporary Tattoos stand that wanders around Mostyn Street. I take it they are operating illegally, or can we all set up shop on the pavement free of any rent or rates to pay? At a time when CCBC is cracking down on legitimate businesses with a A Board on the pavement or a cafe displaying signage on its canopy, it seems a little odd that they are quite happy for the street traders to continue operating?
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Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
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:( I am not quite sure how many cuts have been made in the CCBC parks dept, but considering its the hight of the season our grass and flower beds have been left unweeded and uncut and it all looks a mess,Either CCBC parks dept are only concentrating on Conwy and Colwyn Bay or they have nobody to look after Llandudno. :rage:
Very true, Wrex. I don't see why the Town Council can't save the £4000+ cost of the Civic Sunday event and spend that on enhancing the flower displays around town? Something that all the people could appreciate, not just the chosen few...  $angry$
I saw this comment on Oscar's blog:

"In the Bay of Colwyn Town Council we don't have a sergeant of a Mace bearer or any other trappings of pomp and ceremony. Our Mayor making ceremony is done at the AGM of the council and the mayor lays on a buffet for visiting mayors. There is a Civic Sunday church service and lunch which councillors themselves have to pay for. The Mayor's Allowance is £1000 per year, to pay for travel, hospitality and any contributions the mayor wish to make to societies etc that invite them -such as raffle tickets, donations. The Mayor also hols an event to raise money for their nominated charity."

Take note, Mayor Robbins! The Town Council is not a gravy train to fund your jollies!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 02, 2011, 06:42:02 PM
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Several people have commented to me lately about the street traders that have appeared in Llandudno. First, there was the Jewellery guy often to be found outside RBS, now there is the Temporary Tattoos stand that wanders around Mostyn Street. I take it they are operating illegally, or can we all set up shop on the pavement free of any rent or rates to pay? At a time when CCBC is cracking down on legitimate businesses with a A Board on the pavement or a cafe displaying signage on its canopy, it seems a little odd that they are quite happy for the street traders to continue operating?

Wheel clamp them  WWW
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Post by: dwsi on August 02, 2011, 09:29:29 PM
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Several people have commented to me lately about the street traders that have appeared in Llandudno. First, there was the Jewellery guy often to be found outside RBS, now there is the Temporary Tattoos stand that wanders around Mostyn Street. I take it they are operating illegally, or can we all set up shop on the pavement free of any rent or rates to pay? At a time when CCBC is cracking down on legitimate businesses with a A Board on the pavement or a cafe displaying signage on its canopy, it seems a little odd that they are quite happy for the street traders to continue operating?

I saw this street trader on towyn crossroads 2 weeks ago
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 09:06:30 AM
The Council have the powers to deal with such matters but like fly posting, promenade parking by campers and a miriad of other things they do absolutely eff all. >>>

They make the Rules and then throw the book away it seems!    $angry$
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Post by: hollins on August 03, 2011, 09:17:28 AM
I was amazed to see the temporary tattoo man providing his service yesterday right outside M&S. He was almost in the place where the man normally stands with the Big Issue.
 If it is illegal how they possibly could stand in such a prominent position?
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 06:22:49 PM
Nice to meet you and your family today, Barbiroli.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 06:23:56 PM
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I was amazed to see the temporary tattoo man providing his service yesterday right outside M&S. He was almost in the place where the man normally stands with the Big Issue.
 If it is illegal how they possibly could stand in such a prominent position?
The Tattoo Man and Jewellery Man were side by side outside RBS Bank today, I'm surprised the Manager hasn't asked them to move.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
They may well be on land leased or owned by the Business (Bank or whatever). They only commit an offence if they trade on the public highway (pavement) and do not have the required licence.  You can bet they know the law and use it to their own advantage! 
 WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2011, 08:15:20 PM
Interesting, I'll have to set up a car boot sale stall there, it would save me the cost of the pitch fee :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 08:20:07 PM
...and i shall have a fleet of bicycles selling ice cream from pavement locations throughout Llandudno!
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Post by: hollins on August 03, 2011, 08:22:32 PM
Maybe PC MIke Smith could tell us what the law is and why they are not being moved on?
I have often seen sellers in cities packing up quickly and moving on if they see a policeman coming.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 08:33:37 PM
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...and i shall have a fleet of bicycles selling ice cream from pavement locations throughout Llandudno!

Mobile Ice-Cream sellers have to have a licence!  They get moved on by the CEO's (Parking Bods).  If my memory serves me right all Llandudno Roads are covered by the Statute and Trading is forbidden.  Begging is easier!   Sit there with a cap in front of you, say nothing and people will literally throw money at you! L0L

Hollins - they don't want to get booked and the offence generally used is Obstruction of the Highway (pavement).
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
Speaking of begging, I notice that a man has taken up residence in the entrance to the empty Hoosons Corner premises and is there begging every day.
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Post by: Fester on August 03, 2011, 10:49:30 PM
Before I took on my current miniscule business on Llandudno Pier, I applied to CCBC to be able to sell local seafood produce, from a mobile van around town.

I wanted to sell Conwy mussels etc, as I had seen a kiosk on Conwy Quay with a long queue, and I thought it would be a nice business in many ways.  (I could eat the left overs too!)
CCBC gave me the list of streets where trading would be allowed, (at a price for the license)
You've guessed it,  any street of any reasonable footfall was banned, ... I think Madoc St was the closest I was allowed to get to real people.  So it was a non-starter.

But now, if the tattooist and jewellery guy can hawk their wares unmolested, then I might as well set up on the Prom, next to the Punch and Judy.  Whats fair for one.....
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Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2011, 06:07:43 PM
Well, what an interesting afternoon I've had. I was just walking through town when I spied a Friend of the Forum. He told me that workmen were busy in the Clarence Hotel, so we went over to see and, after a brief chat, were allowed to go inside for an accompanied look around.

We went in though the side door and straight into the old Beijing Chinese Restaurant (originally the Royal Oak Bar). No furniture remained, but the old range in the kitchen was intact and still smelt of Chinese food! We then walked through into what had latterly been the Rumourz bar before closure. There were pools of water on the floor here and you could see where a large section of ceiling had collapsed over the bar. There was also an old Punchball coin-operated machine, that had been destroyed by vandals. The smell of damp was very strong. On the ceiling here was a massive plasterwork rose, must have been 10 foot across, still in good condition. There was a very nice tiled floor in this area, must have been original, very intricate design.

Next up was the old main staircase area - another massive plasterwork ceiling rose and an ancient lift (the sort where you had to slide the metal folding door across) was slotted into the middle of the staircase. A quick peep through into the old Sakura Restaurant (still furnished), and we headed up the once very grand staircase to the First Floor. It was sad to see that some of the carved wooden tops of the staircase bannister had been smashed by vandals but the good news was that there were lovely stained glass windows on the staircase that were completely intact.

On the First Floor, we had a quick look in the Bedrooms, still furnished in some cases with wardrobes etc but everything combustible is currently being removed from the building. There were small items of debris strewn around the entire building and I noticed the electric sockets and switches had been ripped out by thieves. Up again to the second floor, lots more bedrooms with odd pieces of furniture in them and even the odd picture hanging on the wall. Floor was a bit ropey in places, perhaps as a result of thieves pinching copper pipes. Up once more to the top floor, lots of attic rooms that must once have accommodated the staff. Not tiny rooms but not much fun for a tall guy like myself, as headroom was very limited in the corners. The roof was leaking in quite a few places and the plaster had fallen away. A quick look into the room that held the winding gear for the Lift (all original) and we headed back down.

No photos, I'm afraid, it was a spur of the moment visit and it was too dark inside for my iphone camera to operate. The building was actually in slightly better shape that I expected, but a considerable investment will be needed to transform it into its new role. As to what that role is, it would appear that my earlier 'unconfirmed fact' regarding the new owners was correct.  ;)
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Post by: Fester on August 04, 2011, 11:41:54 PM
What an excellent and interesting account.

I am delighted that one of the town's eyesores will soon be under renovation by a major company, who will invest heavily.

It will revitalise the whole Gloddaeth / Arvon Avenue area, which after the closure of the Clarence, and the DSS residents of The Jenivore episode, was looking decidedly ropey.

Could things be on the up?
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 05, 2011, 12:27:24 PM
Who has bought it?
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Post by: Nemesis on August 05, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
Just noticed a large For Sale Board outside the old St George's Church. Hope we aren't having another empty building !
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Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2011, 04:41:33 PM
That's interesting, it's been used as hq for the clunk click software company recently. Did you see which estate agent it was?
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Post by: Barbiroli on August 05, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
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Nice to meet you and your family today, Barbiroli.  :)
  Good to meet you also Dave,nice to put a face to the name  :)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 05, 2011, 06:17:04 PM
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That's interesting, it's been used as hq for the clunk click software company recently. Did you see which estate agent it was?

St David's
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Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2011, 06:27:02 PM
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That's interesting, it's been used as hq for the clunk click software company recently. Did you see which estate agent it was?

St David's
Thank you! It's up for rent at £24,000 a year:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=1&p=721&o=37 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=1&p=721&o=37)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 05, 2011, 07:16:43 PM
I have been a customer of Clunk Click for many years.

I hope everything is alright.

I think I had better boot up my notebook asap to ensure my daily backup happens.

It was yesterday.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 06, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
The sign doesn't say if it is for sale , to let, or whichever. Nor if it is the whole building, or just office space. I too looked on the web page, that infers that it is just to let, there are pics of the interior which looks as though it is all of it, but I wouldn't be sure as they have re-used the mezzanine floor which Drew Pritchard put in. It reads as though it is the whole thing-- an awful large space !!
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Post by: TheMedz on August 07, 2011, 04:28:24 PM
Lifeboat AirSea Rescue exercise this afternoon.

Sorry about the low quality of the picture
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Post by: llandudnotrust on August 07, 2011, 06:02:18 PM
Nearly took my roof off  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2011, 06:59:03 PM
Was a very good demonstration. Lots of speculation amongst the crowds as to whether Prince William was flying the Helicopter!

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6018305513_1e90e6ba58_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6018305513/)
Winch me up! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6018305513/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 07, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
 $cool$  excellent shot there!
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Post by: dwsi on August 07, 2011, 07:59:19 PM
Alterations and extensions to unit 6 to form units 5A and 6 on Parc Parc Llandudno http://bit.ly/nr3koc (http://bit.ly/nr3koc)

Llandudno Town Council – Recommend refusal on the grounds that it will limit pedestrian access for pedestrians from Craig y Don to Parc Llandudno.
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Post by: TheMedz on August 07, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
As usual Great Photo Dave.  Ours were an experiment in taking pictures with a compact digital through a pair of handy binoculars.  I think maybe some investment in a zoom lens for my camera might be called for.  I noticed from way up here in the "stalls" that there was a cherry picker raised up by the cenotaph. Were they filming the exercise?
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Post by: wrex on August 07, 2011, 08:57:28 PM
 ??? Congratulations to the town council,they would rather see the hoardings around the back of Parc Llandudno instead of one new unit and an extension to another,braindead.The grounds for their refusal being no access at nite from that corner, its not as if any off them are leaving Broadway Boulavard and need the short cut is it. Why don;t the oldies retire and let some new blood on the council,people who realise there may be some jobs for local youth in these two new units. GGMS
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Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
Close up of the RAF Seaking Rescue Helicopter:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6019303902_b7b0608110_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6019303902/)
RAF Rescue Helicopter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6019303902/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: ormegolf on August 07, 2011, 09:54:53 PM
Getting back to the street traders in Llandudno, I can speak from a position of having plenty of knowledge on this subject. I have known market type traders who would have given their right arm to trade on Mostyn Street, and I can tell you, you have NO CHANCE. The only way a trader MIGHT squeeze in would be on a forecourt privately owned---but then he would have to pay a very fat rent to the landowner, so much that it would'nt be worth his while. There are many local by laws which would stop any street trader, and, obstruction of any sort on a public pavement is definately no-go. The present traders  that have been mentioned will only last a day or two before they are seen off.
  Why do I claim to have plenty of knowledge? Well for many years I operated a shop on Towyn crossroads the definate centre in North Wales of forecourt trading, legal, semi legal and downright illegal. Not so much now, lockup tiny shops were built to try and stop the hundreds of traders there in the 70s/80s.  I myself sold everything on my forecourt outside my shop--I also let off the rights to certain patches of ground for other traders. So I have had experience as the big bad landlord. I have also had the experience of being instantly arrested by a plain clothes cop in Liverpool for selling. wait for it, balloons. No stall, nothing but a pocket full of balloons and a large inflated balloon over my shoulder. Marched off to the Cheapside (thats a nick in the Pool), searched, cautioned not quite thrown into a cell but not far off, and an appearance in Court about five or six days later. I remember it was three days before Xmas, I thought I might get a bit of seasonal mercy. Fined £60  (in 1977, a lot of cash at that time) and a warning that I wasent to go back on the street to try and make cash for the fine. Mike  P.S. In case you are wondering the balloon was a con, I will admit to it.  The one over my shoulder was specially made and had wrinckles on the side and was around six foot long. The ones I was selling were, of course, uninflated and had wrinckles on. But you couldnt blow them up!!  But, they were only 20 pence and I was short of cash at the time.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 07, 2011, 10:19:04 PM
I thought you were such an upright citizen, Mike!
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Post by: Fester on August 07, 2011, 11:54:55 PM
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I thought you were such an upright citizen, Mike!

He was selling balloons, not viagra Blodyn.. :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Trojan on August 08, 2011, 01:23:11 AM
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Lots of speculation amongst the crowds as to whether Prince William was flying the Helicopter

You mean they actually cared Dave?  ???
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Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2011, 07:49:58 AM
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Alterations and extensions to unit 6 to form units 5A and 6 on Parc Parc Llandudno

Llandudno Town Council – Recommend refusal on the grounds that it will limit pedestrian access for pedestrians from Craig y Don to Parc Llandudno.

Llandudno Town Council Planning Committee and the Full Council have, as far as I know, never had one of their recommendations passed by CCBC.  They are totally ineffective as a governing force for the people of the Town.
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Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
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Lots of speculation amongst the crowds as to whether Prince William was flying the Helicopter

You mean they actually cared Dave?  ???
Not really.  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on August 08, 2011, 08:23:21 AM
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Nearly took my roof off  :laugh:

Thought it was coming through my back door !
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Post by: wrex on August 08, 2011, 10:49:31 AM
Yorkie all i can say is thank god ,if their recomendations had been observed this town would be dead on its feet. WWW
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 08, 2011, 11:40:26 AM
In London you have to have a street traders licence and also a licence to busk and if not you are moved on pretty sharpish.
Yesterday tatoo man was out and a rather good sicxpiece combo of what looked like south Americans outside the Alex.  Wonder if they could be heard in Trinity church?
No police around of course and we don't have bye laws inspectors any more so it seems anyone can come and screech out of tune or play the keyboards badly or beg and no one cares.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2011, 01:51:07 PM
When I was in the Met we had lots of fun and games with the "barra boys" and their fruit and veg barrows, it was just one continuous battle.   The other street traders were mainly the "sell from a suitcase" brigade selling everything from nylons to perfumes.  Most would operate from close to the doorways of the big stores in Oxford Street and such.  We would go in the back entrance, remove helmet and come out of the front and nab them red handed!   Didn't make much difference to them getting caught, they seemed to regard the ensuing fine as their "rent".   _))*

The street girls at the time would get "nicked" for soliciting every month and their £2 fine was considered in the same way.  In fact if they had not been arrested for a week or so would come into the Police Station and "give themselves up" so that they could pay their fine.   It seemed to be a matter of pride with them to show their mates they were still working girls!!    L0L
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Post by: Bellringer on August 08, 2011, 03:41:59 PM
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  Wonder if they could be heard in Trinity church?


Yes, and even above the sound of the bells before the service started at 10.30 both yesterday and a week ago.

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Post by: ormegolf on August 09, 2011, 11:28:35 PM
Going back a few posts to Fester's response. No, I was'ent selling Viagra, nor even taking it------I didnt need it!!! Not quite so certain now, but---who knows, if the circumstances were right.  And as to the balloons, sales were good until Easter Rantzon (if I have named her correctly) exposed it on T.V. and the sales instantly went pop.
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Post by: Trojan on August 10, 2011, 01:39:04 AM
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And as to the balloons, sales were good until Easter Rantzon (if I have named her correctly) exposed it on T.V. and the sales instantly went pop.

Esther Rantzen Mike.

I heard your prices were slightly inflated.  :__)+
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
Wonder who actually showed you round the Clarence Dave?
Whitbread have denied that they have any interest in it ! Page 3 of today's Pioneer.
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 11:52:46 AM
They were workmen who were busy inside for several days.

Llandudno is shown as a target town on their acquisitions list:
http://www.whitbread.co.uk/whitbread/property/hotelsrestaurants/targettowns.html (http://www.whitbread.co.uk/whitbread/property/hotelsrestaurants/targettowns.html)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Mmmm-- wonder if or who  they really were? If Whitbread declare in the press that they have no connection with the Clarence  why they would send in workmen? Something doesn't tally somewhere !
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Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2011, 12:02:06 PM
It would, of course, be a Travelodge Brand which is the hotel side of Whitbread.  What's in a name?   WWW

I would have though that they would not shy away from publicity and would grab every opportunity to put themselves on the map.   C'est la vie!    :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 12:06:05 PM
That is the only way that this could have happened-----Travelodge wasn't mentioned though ! Do Whitbread actually own both? According to Wikipedia they don't--- unless that is out of date .
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
Premier Inn is the Hotel division of Whitbread. Travelodge is a separate company and has no connection.

The workman we spoke to said he had worked on the new Premier Inn at Lancaster?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 10, 2011, 12:37:04 PM
Travelodge has beens owned for the past five years by Dubia International Capital who had previously been interested in the Tudno Castle Hotel.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 01:22:19 PM
Thanks for that-- I thought not !

The mystery deepens ! :o
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Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2011, 01:23:48 PM
B****r, I've been booking myself into the wrong hotel for the past 6 years!!   L0L 
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
The truth will come out in the end, I suppose!  $walesflag$
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 02:42:26 PM
The allseeing Oscar says...

The Pioneer today pours cold water over the Clarence Hotel  by saying that it will not be converted to a Premier Inn , that despite what a certain councilor say is TRUE, it will NOT be converted to a Premier Inn. However there is very good news on the horizon and it is only a matter of time before it will be announced that a very reputable company has exchanged contracts on the now dilapidated hotel. I assure you that this is NOT speculation but fact, I am bound by  confidentiality and will not break this, but think it will be good for that area of town.
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Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2011, 09:32:10 AM
Boxer Randolph Turpin named “Turnip” in leaflet error

RENOWNED boxer Randolph Turpin was famed for his prowess in the ring – but a new tourism leaflet calls him a turnip.

The misspelling is on a promotional leaflet produced by Llandudno Attractions Consortium. Instead of saying that the Great Orme Summit Complex includes Randolph Turpin’s bar, it instead trumpets the delights of “Randolph Turnip’s Bar”.

Bar manager Ron Jones was horrified when it came back misspelt from the printers.

He said: “I was embarrassed. We’d had 130,000 leaflets made and distributed and it was too late to bring them all back. The mistake has been made somewhere along the line.”


Tourist Dave Swanton spotted the gaffe in the leaflet. He said: “My dad had once told me about Randolph Turpin so when I visited the complex and picked up the leaflet, I thought it was hilarious.”

Mr Swanton, who is a BBC radio journalist and Sale Sharks rugby union club spokesman, is even giving the typographical error a light hearted mention on his programme this weekend.

Printers WO Jones Ltd of Llangefni said it works hard to eradicate all mistakes. A spokesman said: “We endeavour at all times to ensure any spelling mistakes are spotted and rectified.

“All art work is proof read to the customers and is signed off before going to the printers. If an error is found at a later date sadly this is beyond our control.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/)

 :laugh:
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Post by: Blodyn on August 11, 2011, 01:21:35 PM
Here's a view from the Great Orme today!
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Post by: Jack on August 11, 2011, 01:28:59 PM
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Boxer Randolph Turpin named “Turnip” in leaflet error

RENOWNED boxer Randolph Turpin was famed for his prowess in the ring – but a new tourism leaflet calls him a turnip.

The misspelling is on a promotional leaflet produced by Llandudno Attractions Consortium. Instead of saying that the Great Orme Summit Complex includes Randolph Turpin’s bar, it instead trumpets the delights of “Randolph Turnip’s Bar”.

Bar manager Ron Jones was horrified when it came back misspelt from the printers.

He said: “I was embarrassed. We’d had 130,000 leaflets made and distributed and it was too late to bring them all back. The mistake has been made somewhere along the line.”


Tourist Dave Swanton spotted the gaffe in the leaflet. He said: “My dad had once told me about Randolph Turpin so when I visited the complex and picked up the leaflet, I thought it was hilarious.”

Mr Swanton, who is a BBC radio journalist and Sale Sharks rugby union club spokesman, is even giving the typographical error a light hearted mention on his programme this weekend.

Printers WO Jones Ltd of Llangefni said it works hard to eradicate all mistakes. A spokesman said: “We endeavour at all times to ensure any spelling mistakes are spotted and rectified.

“All art work is proof read to the customers and is signed off before going to the printers. If an error is found at a later date sadly this is beyond our control.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/)

 :laugh:

NEW? The leaflet was printed in March and has been distributed for the last 6 months!
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Post by: Nemesis on August 11, 2011, 02:40:55 PM
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Here's a view from the Great Orme today!

Exactly--- I ended up soaked to the skin with a very wet white thing on the end of a lead !
Hope it clears before the concert tonight.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on August 11, 2011, 03:50:46 PM
Concert ??
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Post by: Blodyn on August 11, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
Thanks, Nemesis. 

Llandudnotrust, it's the Celtic harp concert at St. Tudno's Church this evening. 

Leading Celtic harpist Delyth Jenkins will be performing there at 7.30 pm.  Tickets are £8.00 (concessions £5.00).  It should be a lovely concert but I hope the weather doesn't put people off. 
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Post by: llandudnotrust on August 11, 2011, 04:09:56 PM
Oh heck not looking good  :(
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Post by: TheMedz on August 11, 2011, 05:53:02 PM
As per Blodyn's photograph no view from the top of the Orme for most of today and yet the trams were packed all day.
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Post by: ormegolf on August 11, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Yes, I noticed the packed trams as I made an escape to Macdonalds. An hour later I returned up the Orme only because I knew my Council greenkeeper was up there. Whilst talking in the shelter of his cab, golfers started to arrive. Within fifteen minutes I had 32 players on the course (max 36 i.e. 4 playing each hole) at one time they could'nt even see the flags. A bit hair raising for me --- no chance of dodging a stray ball, you couldnt even see it.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 11, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Delyth Jenkins gave a wonderful concert at St. Tudno's this evening, performing traditional tunes, her own compositions and one by her violinist daughter, Angharad.  Forty very appreciative people braved the dismal weather to attend and in such a small church that's enough to feel like a good sized audience - and it even stopped raining during the evening. 

For those who weren't able to attend, you can hear some samples of Delyth's music on her own website. (http://www.delyth-jenkins.co.uk/)

Sorry this isn't a clearer photo. 
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Post by: ormegolf on August 13, 2011, 09:11:01 PM
Anyone know what has happened to the weekend festival on Bodafon fields?  The fairground is there, all set up, but appears to be deserted. I understood it was a two day event, today and tomorrow, with all manner of things happening.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
They are using the top field up by the main buildings.
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Post by: jemima on August 13, 2011, 10:43:23 PM
I believe there is a dog show and carnival queens tomorrow as well as a parade  from near the Merrion Hotel - at 12.30.
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Post by: ormegolf on August 14, 2011, 12:18:48 PM
Well, I'm not so sure. At 9.30 this morning there was one, and only one, large man in a dayglow coat stood in the middle of the entrance road. I didnt bother asking him any details,I feared the worse. It must have cost the fairground people tens of thousands to move all their tackle and then not to be open at 7 p.m. in the evening----something doesent make sense
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Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 12:52:14 PM
There was some sort of incident on the Orme earlier - the Coastguard, Helicopter and both Lifeboats were out on the curve before the Lighthouse. Last pic shows the RNLB Andy Pearce being towed back to the Boathouse:
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Post by: ormegolf on August 14, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
The road around the Orme is closed----cars being turned back at the tollhouse
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Post by: ormegolf on August 14, 2011, 01:28:31 PM
The road is closed because runners are coming around in the "wrong" direction
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Post by: dwsi on August 14, 2011, 04:53:11 PM
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There was some sort of incident on the Orme earlier - the Coastguard, Helicopter and both Lifeboats were out on the curve before the Lighthouse.

BBC News - Two Cheshire kayakers rescued off Llandudno coast http://bbc.in/pvohGO (http://bbc.in/pvohGO)
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Post by: hollins on August 14, 2011, 04:57:27 PM
Escape to the country on BBC at the moment. Just done a piece on Llandudno, the pier, St Tudno's church.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 14, 2011, 05:00:14 PM
Old program - was shown a long while ago.   Z**
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Post by: dwsi on August 14, 2011, 05:01:51 PM
A new blog about Llandudno 'Orme Views' http://bit.ly/q45ejP (http://bit.ly/q45ejP)
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Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 06:59:31 PM
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A new blog about Llandudno 'Orme Views' http://bit.ly/q45ejP (http://bit.ly/q45ejP)
££$
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Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 07:00:30 PM
The Annual 'Headstock' music festival at the King's Head Pub was in full flow when i passed this afternoon:
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Post by: ormegolf on August 14, 2011, 08:52:06 PM
If I had known that was going on-----it might have been shutters up and me down the hill
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Post by: Nemesis on August 15, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Credit where credit is due-- it was quietened at a reasonable hour. Seem to remember alot of whingeing last time !
Looks good-- town seemed deserted yesterday evening-- everyone was there !
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Post by: wrex on August 16, 2011, 09:03:49 PM
 :o Sorry to be so negative about THE FLOWER BEDS BUT THEY LOOK DISGUSTING,FULL OF WEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CUT ALL STAFF IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,its a shame some of us are proud of Llandudno and others are letting it go. :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2011, 09:20:11 PM
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:o Sorry to be so negative about THE FLOWER BEDS BUT THEY LOOK DISGUSTING,FULL OF WEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CUT ALL STAFF IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,its a shame some of us are proud of Llandudno and others are letting it go. :rage:
Agreed. Another area which the Town Council could chip in and do something useful instead of spending £4000 on Civic Sunday jollies for themselves.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 17, 2011, 08:13:14 AM
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:o Sorry to be so negative about THE FLOWER BEDS BUT THEY LOOK DISGUSTING,FULL OF WEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CUT ALL STAFF IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,its a shame some of us are proud of Llandudno and others are letting it go. :rage:

The Bloom Judges have long since been and gone Wrex,  what more do you expect?  I think the Judges should return a few months later and see if the displays have been kept up to scratch!   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 17, 2011, 07:59:49 PM
I was just browsing the Town Council's website and was amazed to see so many spelling mistakes in the Mayor's Biography (spelling errors in bold):

The Mayor, Cllr Greg J T Robbins late father's family are from the area.  His grandfather owned a farm in Llandudno Junction and until fairly recently he had relatives running a shop and a cafe in Llandudno.  Although he was brought up in England, he fell in love with llandudno from an early age as his family always came to the town on holiday and to visit relatives.  He moved back to the area in 1984.

He works as a Contracts Manager for a lcoal construction company and has been involved in the industry sicne starting work on the Conwy Tunnel in 1987 for Tarmac Construction.  Cllr Robbins is married to Debbie with two daughters, Kira aged 14 and Holly aged 25, and has two grand children, Elysia and Jack.  He is also an animal lover and has three rescue dogs at home.

Prior to becoming Mayor, he has held the office off Deputy Mayor, has been Chaimran of the Planning Transportation Committee for two years and is a very active member of various other committee and sub-committee including Community Services, Fiannce and General Purposes, Tranpsortation and Public Rights of Way, Decorative Lighting and Staffing.  He also represents the Council on the Great Orme Management Advisory Group, the Llandudno ad Colwyn Bay Light Tram Society and the Llandudno Development Partnership.

In addition to is council held positions, he is the Treasurer of the Llandudno and District Darts League, a Governor of Ysgol John Bright High Schol and Vice Chair of Governors of Ysgol Morfa Rhianedd Primary School.  He was also the Chairman of the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza until December 2010.  Cllr Robbins also has a long standing interest in Amateur Rado having held a callsign since 1992 and he was Secretary and then Chairman of the North Wales Radio Society for several years and helped organise the annual Radio show that is held in Llandudno.

He has a passion for local history and with the backing of the Council is currently working on a Living History project for the town to make the history of Llandudno mroe accessible.


http://llandudno.gov.uk/mayor/ (http://llandudno.gov.uk/mayor/)


Unbelievable...not to mention embarrassing! Do they not even possess a spell checker at the Town Hall?

If Mayor Robbins is passionate about local history, he could do worse than have a browse through the Forum, where he will find the largest collection of Llandudno photos and memories in existence anywhere...  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on August 17, 2011, 08:17:12 PM
I've also had a go at them on NIGGLES about 30 minutes before your post.  Great minds think alike!   ZXZ
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Post by: ormegolf on August 17, 2011, 10:14:12 PM
Dave, my friend, sorry to disagree with you. I don't think any of these are spelling mistakes---they are keyboard errors i.e. mistyping.  I make them all the time, sticky keys etc
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ormegolf on August 17, 2011, 10:16:47 PM
Mind you, this is probably a worse sin because even a quick glance shows the mistakes. Very careless and unbusiness like
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 18, 2011, 02:46:22 AM
DaveR, you missed a couple of other grammatical errors but I shall let you off as there were so many errors in the first place.

Did you also notice the 'Calendar of Meetings' ended three months ago?

http://llandudno.gov.uk/calendar-ofmeetings (http://llandudno.gov.uk/calendar-ofmeetings)

This list should have also been updated by now for 2011-12.

http://llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies (http://llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 18, 2011, 07:17:39 AM
Dave and I posted within the same hour, Dave on this and me on the Niggles thread.  I covered the Calendar.

A Freedom of Information request was put in by Oscar about the Mayor's Sargeant and there is a large section on the said person which makes it look as though he does more work than anyone else!   How ridiculous to waste money on someone to "help to ROBE the Mayor".  When did we have "eminent" persons and "dignatories" visiting?   Surely such persons should be met by no less a person than the Mayor himself?

Yet another plethora of spelling errors (not typing errors).  Serjeant is an antiquated spelling.

QUOTE
The Mayor's Serjeant

The post of Mayor's Serjeant was established in 2003 by the Town Council as an Honorarium Office and the role broadly covers the following areas:

•To assist the Mayor personally in carrying out their (only if Mayors) duties and civic engagements, including robing.
•To attend and accompany the Mayor/members of the Council at various civic functions or engagements which occur throughout the year.
•To attend Council and other meetings, as required.
•To receive offical guests at civic and other occasions, as required.
•To assist The Mayor/Town Clerk with the smooth running and hosting of the practical side of all Civic functions and events, including: the Annual General Meeting; Civic Sunday; Freedom Parades; Wales in Bloom; Llandudno in Bloom; Miss Alice competition; Town Twinning; Fireworks night; Remembrance Sunday, Christmas Parade and others as needed.
• To assist The Mayor/Town Clerk with visitors to the Town Council eg: Schools; Community/Voluntary Groups and representatvies; overseas visitors; civic dignatories/eminent persons; representatives from the UK Armed Forces (past and present); businesses, individuals.
•To assist the Town Clerk, where required, with appropriate, minor, maintenance works.
UNQUOTE
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Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2011, 09:24:03 AM
Llandudno carnival unlikely to go ahead next year
Aug 18 2011 by Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News

IT’S unlikely there will be a Llandudno Carnival next year as the weekend two-day event operated at a loss.

Organiser Linda Groom said people seem to have been put off by the £3.50 entrance fee which also included entry to Bodafon Farm Park in Craig-y-Don.

“It was very disappointing that we didn’t get better support as the event was in aid of two local charities, Ysgol y Gogarth and St David’s Hospice,” she said.

“We had the best ever entry for the carnival queens competitions, and for the morris dancing and majorettes, with competitors coming from all over North Wales and the north of England, but it was a pity local people didn’t support us better.

“It’s unlikely it will be held again, and I’m not willing to continue as chairman as it’s upsetting to put in so much work and not get public support,” she explained.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/18/llandudno-carnival-unlikely-to-go-ahead-next-year-55243-29252943/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/18/llandudno-carnival-unlikely-to-go-ahead-next-year-55243-29252943/)
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
 ;) I pray that CCBC parks dept do not get a job lot of chrysthanums again next year ,tyey look cheap and nasty, not sure what Conwy and Colwyn Bay have got.Obviously they have made massive cuts in staff and flowers ,no weeding ,very little grass cutting, ok sign of the times but what will they cut next Llandudno railway station development .
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 19, 2011, 12:17:40 PM
Actually I was thinking how nice and jolly the orange and yellow flowers round the islands are looking especially in the misderable weather. Shame they do it just for that competition - isn't that cheating?
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Post by: Nemesis on August 19, 2011, 02:52:07 PM
As I drove round the roundabout, by the Carleton, I too thought how cheerful the huge Marigolds edged with blue Lobelia looked !
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Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
The Carlton display is a good one.  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on August 19, 2011, 02:57:36 PM
Probably the only one I see as I usually have to wait to drive round the roundabout. $good$
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 04:57:53 PM
 ;) If everyone is happy with the display , no problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2011, 05:34:12 PM
The ones on the Prom need the most attention, as far as I can see. Weeds everywhere, large patches of bare earth, half dead plants...not good.
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Post by: white rabbit on August 19, 2011, 08:19:21 PM
I walked up Mostyn Street today and also thought how nice the marigolds looked on the corners of  Trinity Square
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Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2011, 08:31:37 PM
This clever device appeared outside the Library a few weeks ago; it is a touch screen information point and contains information on everything from local cafes to the time of the next bus or train.
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Post by: ormegolf on August 20, 2011, 08:57:50 PM
Looks very similar to one put up in Llanrwst a fair while ago. I thought that was fine except I had some doubts about its positioning. Its in the main car park on the way to the toilets, and, maybe, walked past to the town. Apart from that, full marks.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 22, 2011, 03:05:56 PM
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Escape to the country on BBC at the moment. Just done a piece on Llandudno, the pier, St Tudno's church.

Just catching up with things after a week away.

This sounds like a programme which my sister saw the last time it was on.  My sister was horrified to hear the Blue Badge Guide talking about St. Tudno's Church while in the background could be seen not the ancient church of St. Tudno but the 20th century cemetery chapel!  It was also a bit odd that the Guide was able to pronounce "Llandudno" correctly but could not do the same with "Tudno".  Blue Badge Guides are supposed to know what they are talking about, so my sister emailed the Guide in question and received a rather unsatisfactory answer about the BBC being responsible for what was shown.  It seemed to be very sloppy research and production. 
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Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2011, 11:17:33 PM
The view over Llandudno just before the thunderstorm hit this afternoon:
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Post by: dogstail on August 26, 2011, 12:14:41 AM
the sky was awfully dark when i was lookin out the window at work, didnt hear any thunder although many people told me it did!!
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Post by: Trojan on August 26, 2011, 01:27:30 AM
Looks like a volcano erupted in the Carneddau.  :)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 26, 2011, 10:32:46 AM
Erupting water instead of lava. The roundabout at Hooson's Corner was rapidly flooding when I passed by.
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Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2011, 03:43:59 PM
Sainsburys have a Alcohol Licence application on the door of Alworths.
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Post by: wrex on August 26, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
Oh god i hope the town council don;t object and blow this one. WWW
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Post by: dwsi on August 26, 2011, 07:34:24 PM
Llandudno Railway Station on Track for Improvements | Welsh Icons News http://bit.ly/oYN6Y1 (http://bit.ly/oYN6Y1)
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Post by: ormegolf on August 26, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
Thunderstorms, flooding----first I've heard about that, and I was up on Llwynon Road all afternoon and evening. It rained, but nothing exceptional. Obviously very localised.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 09:15:50 AM
Three very heavy rainstorms last night, garage full of water this morning--- British weather ! :rage:
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Post by: Bellringer on August 27, 2011, 10:30:41 AM
Well it is August Bank Holiday weekend! If you want to go some where indoors, there's a fair at Holy Trinity Church, proceeds to re-roof St Tudno's on the Orme.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 10:52:20 AM
Agggggh-- Just got caught in this lot on the Orme with Frizzy dog. That's me finished for today-- I'm going nowhere unless it fines up. Might drift along if the weather improves.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2011, 12:41:21 PM
I notice there have been a few sellers of Rag Mags in Mostyn Street for the past few days dressed up in fancy dress.

I didn’t buy one myself because I still have a daughter at university and she came home at the end of May and will not be going back until next weekend.

Can someone please confirm they are genuine sellers even though the universities are shut?
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 03:28:00 PM
I don't think they are students, put it that way. ;)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2011, 04:08:03 PM
Surplus stock maybe.  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 04:43:41 PM
To be honest, I don't think its got anything to do with raising money for any university, it's a straightforward money making scam. Why not ask them which university they go to and see what they say?  ;)

This article explains more:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8429288.Warning_over_York____Rag_Mag____vendors/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8429288.Warning_over_York____Rag_Mag____vendors/)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 07:42:23 PM
It's back to the Street Traders regulations again!  Need a licence - do they have one?

There is also the scam of selling badges and other small things for so called "charity" by chatting all the oldies sitting along the prom.  They will cough up for anything without even thinking.

I was at Tesco once publicising the I.A.M. Advanced Driving program and old ladies were walking up to us with a pound coin in their hands without an inkling of who or what we were!  Amazing! :D
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Post by: ormegolf on August 27, 2011, 08:46:24 PM
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