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Title: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 31, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
There is a story today concerning a lady from Llandudno which is so important that it is on the front page of the Daily Post but I cannot find one line about this story in today's North Wales Weekly News.

Does anybody know why this can happen to two newspapers within the same group ?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on March 31, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
About the Mum on the School run 3 times over the DD limit with 4 kids in the car?   Only a 2 year ban - Disgusting!

Quote:  "she could lose her job as a tourist information manager with Conwy council as a result of the driving ban"

Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 01, 2011, 04:21:58 AM
Absolutely correct but who decides the story is not worthy of a mention in the NWWN?

and why?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 08:08:22 AM
The deadline for the NWWN will be earlier than the Post, maybe that could be the reason? It will probably be in next week's edition.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 10:13:32 AM
A MUM on the afternoon school run was almost three times the drink-drive limit.

Melanie Woodhouse had four children in her car when police arrested her outside Ysgol Craig y Don, Llandudno, magistrates heard yesterday.

Woodhouse, 35, of Fairways, Llandudno, pleaded guilty to driving with excess alcohol and was banned for two years. She was also given a 12-month community order to include a drink-impaired driver’s course.

James Neary, prosecuting at Prestatyn magistrates’ court, said police were outside the school gates on March 16 checking on parents who parked on zig-zag lines.

They became concerned about Woodhouse as she tried to manoeuvre into a parking space, and when they approached her smelled alcohol on her breath.

When arrested she was found to have 100 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath, the legal limit being 35.

Alex Fitzgerald, defending, said Woodhouse had an alcohol problem and suffered depression, for which she had been receiving counselling. He said she had driven to the school but had planned to walk with the kids to McDonald’s before driving home. He said she could lose her job as a tourist information manager with Conwy council as a result of the driving ban. “She is genuinely remorseful,” he added.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/31/north-wales-mum-was-three-times-limit-on-school-run-55578-28433915/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/03/31/north-wales-mum-was-three-times-limit-on-school-run-55578-28433915/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Paddy on April 01, 2011, 06:50:21 PM
Hands up who's never done that!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: brumbob on April 01, 2011, 07:00:24 PM
not me
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 01, 2011, 07:02:04 PM
Nor me.   D)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 01, 2011, 07:23:30 PM
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Hands up who's never done that!

Done what Paddy?   Z**  $drink1$ (*) (*) ?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 01:07:31 AM
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Hands up who's never done that!

Done what Paddy?   Z**  $drink1$ (*) (*) ?

Tried to manoeuver into a parking space outside Ysgol Craig-y-Don. Seen Paddy do it on many occasion. Don't know how he does it sometimes.

 :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 03, 2011, 08:27:50 AM
Trojan, taxi drivers tend to wait in the middle of the road.  :rage:

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James Neary, prosecuting at Prestatyn magistrates’ court, said police were outside the school gates on March 16 checking on parents who parked on zig-zag lines.

Please note there would be no need for the parents to park on the zig-zag lines if something was done about the school staff parking their cars all day along Clarence Drive.

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: suepp on April 03, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
near our local school it's absolute chaos at 3.15 where various parents  attempt to manoevre their people carriers and 4 wheel drives around one another along the narrowest street in town. Seen many a stand-off causing gridlock at the nearby pedestrian crossing, exacerbated by 3 way traffic lights recently where some company spent a fortnight repairing a short stretch of pavement!

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 07, 2011, 08:06:35 AM
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The deadline for the NWWN will be earlier than the Post, maybe that could be the reason? It will probably be in next week's edition.

I cannot find it today either. 
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2011, 08:12:05 AM
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The deadline for the NWWN will be earlier than the Post, maybe that could be the reason? It will probably be in next week's edition.

I cannot find it today either. 
Are you intimating that dark forces may be at work, Bri?  ???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 07, 2011, 09:56:12 AM
Not exactly my words, DaveR, but what do you think ?  ?{}?

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There is a story today concerning a lady from Llandudno which is so important that it is on the front page of the Daily Post but I cannot find one line about this story in today's North Wales Weekly News.

Does anybody know why this can happen to two newspapers within the same group ?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
 Hmmmmm...  ?{}?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 07, 2011, 11:43:43 PM
FESTER gets a mention in the NWWN today .....    ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY, and two 14 dart finishes !!!!   Z**

(But I'm trying to play it down.. I don't like to make a big thing about it) 

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 08, 2011, 02:35:58 AM
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FESTER gets a mention in the NWWN today .....    ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY, and two 14 dart finishes !!!!   Z**

(But I'm trying to play it down.. I don't like to make a big thing about it) 


 &well&
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 08, 2011, 08:26:58 AM
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FESTER gets a mention in the NWWN today .....    ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY, and two 14 dart finishes !!!!   Z**
(But I'm trying to play it down.. I don't like to make a big thing about it) 

Prettry good to get two 14 dart finishes when you're 180!    L0L   Got a bit of assistance from his Zimmer frame no doubt!     _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 08, 2011, 10:20:41 AM
Yes.. it was indeed fantastic.  World class one might say .... but as I said, I don't like to mention it ... too modest.


Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
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Yes.. it was indeed fantastic.  World class one might say .... but as I said, I don't like to mention it ... too modest.
A modest man...................with much to be modest about.  :laugh:  _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 08, 2011, 11:19:51 AM
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Yes.. it was indeed fantastic.  World class one might say .... but as I said, I don't like to mention it ... too modest.

Go on!  Tell us the whole story, dart by dart, breath by breath, chapter and verse.   :laugh:  I for one, would certainly like to hear every last detail from the practice and preparation for the event right through to the last dart being released from your hand!    _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on April 08, 2011, 12:55:16 PM
Couldn't help laughing at an ad. in this weeks NWWN.  re. a carpet shop in Craig-y-don.

 "We will uplift your old carpets".  What do they do ?  Tell them jokes?  Sing them songs?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Pendragon on April 08, 2011, 04:58:25 PM
There was a funny sign in the Chinese take away in Conwy today. 
I tried to upload the photo off my phone but "computer Say's No"

it read

I am holiday

we back soon

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on April 09, 2011, 10:59:52 AM
There used to be a laundrette owned by Chinese people on Highgate Hill in London it's name took up the whole of the front of the building.
Wisheewasheesplishysploshycleenyknickivellyquickee
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 10, 2011, 12:23:03 AM
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There used to be a laundrette owned by Chinese people on Highgate Hill in London it's name took up the whole of the front of the building.
Wisheewasheesplishysploshycleenyknickivellyquickee

How about the Chinese Laundry Restaurant?

The socks are to die for!  $dins$  :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2011, 12:24:20 PM
I was just leafing through the Weekly News' 'Now & Then' photo supplement and noticed that the images of Rhos On Sea (back page) did not match. 'Now' image was of the beach by the breakwater, whilst the 'Then' image was of the beach round the corner looking towards St Tudnos Church. No wonder the blurb said that a lot had changed!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Blodyn on April 21, 2011, 01:53:46 PM
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the 'Then' image was of the beach round the corner looking towards St Tudnos Church.

Dave, do you perhaps mean St. Trillo's Chapel?  I think that it would be a little difficult to see St. Tudno's Church from there!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2011, 03:24:43 PM
Yes, you're quite right!  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: white rabbit on April 21, 2011, 07:05:36 PM
I noticed that too - one is from Penryhn Bay to Rhos - the other from Rhos the other way
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on April 22, 2011, 04:20:58 PM
 :-X I have not bought a weekly news for 4 weeks now,ifind it very poor these days and if there is anything going on you tend to find out on here.The main reason i decided to stop buying was their neglect for Llandudno,if you can;t find any storeys about the town then follow some old favorites up ,like the railway station,Pier Pavillion,empty shops,town center manager,xmas lights[oops],there just seems to me no interest so i have stopped buying end of. ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 22, 2011, 05:01:42 PM
It hasn't been the same since Auntie Megan left.  :'(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 22, 2011, 05:30:34 PM
Gone down hill since the Jones's sold out!    $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 06:01:11 PM
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:-X I have not bought a weekly news for 4 weeks now,ifind it very poor these days and if there is anything going on you tend to find out on here.The main reason i decided to stop buying was their neglect for Llandudno,if you can;t find any storeys about the town then follow some old favorites up ,like the railway station,Pier Pavillion,empty shops,town center manager,xmas lights[oops],there just seems to me no interest so i have stopped buying end of. ZXZ
What's worth bearing in mind is the Weekly News will fold if sales fall significantly. Yes, it could be far better but would you rather be without it altogether?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 22, 2011, 06:13:45 PM
I do not think I would miss it.  If you look at the balance between editorial and advertising (forgetting the PR items) it has changed dramatically over the years.  The balance is now very heavily in the favour of advertising and to pay the price for a few local articles just ain't worth it in my book!    >>>
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on April 22, 2011, 07:32:01 PM
 ;) Trogan,Aunty Megan ,i remember it was quite a joke in school to get your name on her page,. :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 22, 2011, 08:36:26 PM
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;) Trogan,Aunty Megan ,i remember it was quite a joke in school to get your name on her page,. :laugh:

It certainly was.  L0L

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 22, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
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;) Trogan,Aunty Megan ,i remember it was quite a joke in school to get your name on her page,. :laugh:

It certainly was.  L0L


Didn't they have the Welsh version of Spot the Ball.......Spot the Sheep?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 09:13:42 PM
Maybe we could collectively offer some advice (because I know Weekly News journalists do read the forum) on what we would like to see? Ideas for new features etc?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 22, 2011, 09:57:19 PM
The NWWN being a weekly, cannot ever be successful in reporting topical news items of the day.  Once it has been put to bed, it then has six days of news which if published the following week is history.  This is due to the inclusion of local news in other media such as Radio, Television, Free Press, Blogs, Forums and their own group's Daily Newspapers.  In my view for it to survive it needs to possibly change its format to that of a Weekly Magazine style, rather than continue to attempt to be a newspaper.

Just my thoughts!    $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on April 22, 2011, 10:53:53 PM
 :(In the Llandudno edition it needs to have Llandudno stories and about things the locals want to know about,eg lets have Judith meeting Venue Cymru staff and let them explain why it is so hard to fill the Arena,why not talk to Mostyn estates and ask them why they sit back andexcept the poor standard of xmas lights that the town they supposidly love has to put up with,why not talk to a different town councillor each week so we can see what REAL interest they have,things we may enjoy reading.Of course there is only Judith to do all this and thats what it comes down to,no staff,no interest equals NO SALES. :'(       
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on April 23, 2011, 08:06:31 AM
The NWWN's strength was always topical reporting of community activities, almost the magazine style that Yorkie suggests, in fact.  They were always excellent with school news, clubs, sport and local problems, partly because they 'fleshed out' the stories so effectively and used a lot of photos.  But things are changing - and not only for the NWWN. With the advent of the internet, the papers now publish online and - I suppose   a lot are saying why pay? when they can get it for free.

Inevitably, I suspect, we'll see a  greater trend towards even more advertising which, coupled with the fall in incomes, will mean the NWWN will struggle even more. The National newspapers are finding it pretty tough, so I'm guessing the Trinity group is just about holding its heads above water at the moment.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 23, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
I think it is more like they have a snorkel!     ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
I suspect what will happen in the end is that TrinityMirror (or whoever owns it by then) will decide to pull the plug once it becomes economically unviable (for them). At that point, somebody local could step in, buy it, and return it to its roots by making the suggested changes.  

In 2009, the NWWN sold 15,124 copies (decline of 8.3% on previous year)
In 2010, the NWWN sold 14,127 copies, (decline of 5.3% on previous year)

I did a blog post on the NWWN a few years ago, still remains true!
http://llandudnoandcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-wales-weekly-news.html (http://llandudnoandcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-wales-weekly-news.html)

$walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 23, 2011, 08:42:48 PM
Are those figures a weekly run?  15,124 looks about right for a week.
Or do you mean 15,124K ?  Per annum
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2011, 08:45:59 PM
sales per week
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 23, 2011, 09:43:01 PM
Thats not lot is it ?, given that there is more than one version of it.  (Colwyn Bay/Abergele, Llandudno etc) 

You would think I have a decent chance of winning the prize crossword then!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on April 23, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
Don't forget the North Wales Weekly News and the Daily Post both have on-line versions which could be attributed do dwindling newspaper sales. It would be interesting to see their on-line readership versus their actual newspaper readership.

Having newspapers on-line has been responsible for declining newspaper sales worldwide.

In January, the New York Times started to charge frequent readers who access their website = $$$$

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/business/media/21times.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/business/media/21times.html)

Maybe this will become more common in years to come, if the newspaper industry is to survive?



Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SDQ on April 23, 2011, 10:11:50 PM
Is it just me but I think nothing of paying to buy my daily newspapers but I expect online news to be free. I guess because it's been so easily available for so many years the thought of paying to go to a news website seems wrong.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2011, 10:14:03 PM
I almost wonder if the NWWN stopped putting its articles on-line or reduced each one to a 50 word synopsis, it might boost sales of the print edition?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 23, 2011, 10:17:18 PM
I could never understand the business logic in any News media being available on line for free.

Its like Asda leaving unlimited free food outside, everyday, and having a sign saying...''you can PAY for similar produce inside''

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SDQ on April 23, 2011, 10:18:59 PM
Bit of a Catch 22 situation. If they don't have an online service someone else would provide it but the more they put online the higher the possibility that people will read that and not buy the paper on Thursday.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2011, 09:15:29 AM
Interesting story on the launch of a new local newspaper in Wales. We've said before that some of the principle of reader contributed, ultra local news could be applied to boost the ailing Weekly News:


A new paid-for weekly newspaper has launched in Wales bucking the trend of title closures.

The Pembroke and Pembroke Dock Observer is published by the nearby Tenby Observer, part of the Tindle group.

Several weeklies in Wales have closed in recent years, all dailies have seen a fall in circulation and one group has stopped employing street vendors.

A media consultant says Tindle papers are successful because they concentrate on ultra-local community news.

Around 1,500 copies were printed for the first edition of the new title which general manager Andrew Adamson said sold out in several newsagents.

He said the Tenby Observer, which employs 15 staff, had always tried to carry news items submitted by people in Pembroke and Pembroke Dock and the volume of contributions had increased.

"That got us to the point where we started to look if there was a demand for this and we said 'let's provide it and see what happens'," he said.

He said circulation figures of newspapers in Pembrokeshire had held up well compared to many of the other parts of the UK and that had also helped give them the confidence to launch the title.

The whole of the county is served by the Western Telegraph newspaper but Mr Andrews said Pembroke and Pembroke Dock did not have a dedicated title.

"The Western Telegraph is a fantastic paper but it physically cannot cover all the smaller community stories."

He said the Observer also covered the type of "parish pump" stories that could not be found on the internet - which has been blamed in part for the national decline in newspaper sales.

Media consultant Robert Lloyd, a former editor of the Carmarthen Journal and Llanelli Star, said Tindle papers operated differently from those owned by the larger media groups such as Trinity Mirror, Newsquest and his former employer Northcliff.

"Ray Tindle specialises in these very old fashioned small newspapers with sales of between 6,000 to 10,000," he said.

"They are profitable and have a loyal readership because he believes in the old fashioned news principles of names, faces and places.

"They receive a lot of contributions from readers so they operate with a fairly small editorial staff.

"It's all the community life that's fit to print from Mr Jones's death to the local WI to school sports days.

"You read the WI reports and they go into the detail of the flavour of jam they made.

"The larger corporations have distanced themselves a bit from their readers by closing offices, centralising production, cutting editions and I think they are missing a trick."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-14085388 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-14085388)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Parry on July 22, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
Hi guys, I thought I'd give a few words on the forum as a regular visitor. I am the Pen and Llan reporter for the NWWN, these are some of my personal views.

The future of newspapers is a huge debate in the media world at the moment. Newspaper sales worldwide are dwindling due to the rise is new technology, so it's no surprise that that NWWN is feeling the pressure. However, new technology is also amazing, because it means the face of news is changing dramatically and news is coming from so many more sources (facebook, twitter, forums)

However, I wouldn't say that we are ailing.

We have made numerous efforts throughout the years to highlight local issues, e.g. library closure proposals, the LDP and more. We have also broken many exclusives, including this week's figures for ex-council chief, Byron Davies' trial, which has been picked up by the BBC and others.

Obviously we are also contesting against a Daily paper which produces very good stories and has a great team behind them. However, we have six great reporters working for the paper who have plenty more time to investigate stories and present more in depth facts. We can also focus on the 'hyper local' stories. (check page 2 school file this week). We have a community news section which is also dedicated to coffee mornings, salsa classes etc. People do want to read what's happening down the road.

The Weekly News has a new editor. Linda Roberts has taken over and introduced some new aspects to the paper. In the Spotlight is focusing on well known characters and getting to know them better. We will also

Like Dave says, we would really appreciate your views on what you'd like to see in the paper. This forum is a great way to keep up to date with happenings and what the views of people in Llandudno and elsewhere are. Keep it up! 

Thanks for reading!

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on July 22, 2011, 04:08:49 PM
 :( I was glad to see you have a new editor and i sent her an e-mail telling her my thoughts on the paper, you as a reporter know our issues reading them on here but never do anything in the paper, this i find quite weird ,especially as there has been no Llandudno stories for weeks.Why have none of you looked into the issues on this forum and tried to make a story to keep Llandudno readers interested? . :roll:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2011, 05:06:23 PM
You and I know, Wrex, - that would just be too easy!   WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 08:48:40 PM
Nice to have Rayyan posting on the Forum, I know he does read it very regularly. One thing I'd personally love to see is for the Weekly News to open up its vast archive of photos and news stories going back to the paper's creation. In the 21st Century, there should be no need need for us to have to trundle off to Conwy Archives to search through Microfilm, when every article and photo could be digitised and put online for many more people to use. Think what a valuable resource it would be.  :)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on July 23, 2011, 09:29:33 AM
 ;) Hello again Parry, i forgot to mention about the extravaganza, for the last 4 years at least your newspaper has completly ignored the event,it just happens to be the biggest event in the area and you ignore it,the whole outfit stinks. :'(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on July 23, 2011, 08:09:30 PM
The whole paper is just filled with tittle tattle.  -  That is,of course, the small space allocated to editorial matter.

I have never seen any publication (except Exchange and Mart) with such a poor relationship between advertising and editorial content.   Without adding up all the column inches devoted to each, I think that the ratio of editorial to advertising is less than 10%.   This results in not enough readers interested in the paper and a very poor readership for any business advertisment.  Extremely poor value for all.  Trinity Mirror deserve whatever happens to them.     :rage:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on July 23, 2011, 10:13:56 PM
Up until 4 weeks ago, I purchased and read the NWWN avidly, and looked forward to it every Thursday..

But one day, I realised that after reading it from cover to cover, I had learned nothing.
The most interesting page was the Obituaries, and I'm not even from Llandudno originally!

I realised that I didn't care about ensless pages of what kids were doing in schools.
I also got heartily sick of local fundraising efforts, ... noble though they are, they are NOT NEWS.

I have not bought the NWWN for the last month now, and have not missed it at all.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2011, 10:39:28 PM
Perhaps we should put the Forum behind a Paywall in the best Digger Murdoch tradition and charge a £1 a month to access it?  ££$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2011, 10:44:28 PM
Mentioning Murdoch just now has reminded me of a bit about his takeover of the News of the World that always made me laugh. I think it was 1969 when he bought it, before then it was owned and run by the Carr family. The main obstacle to getting a deal done was the Chairman of the NOTW - his name was Sir William Carr but he was known to all and sundry as 'Pissing Billy', because he was usually to be found drunk in his office by 10am every day!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2011, 08:15:13 AM
Quote
I realised that I didn't care about ensless pages of what kids were doing in schools.
I also got heartily sick of local fundraising efforts, ... noble though they are, they are NOT NEWS.

But...photos of kids in local schools do sell papers and - to be fair - a lot of people complain bitterly that 'all news is bad', which is hardly the case when a local paper like the NWWN celebrates the positive as often as it does.

Local fund raising efforts may not be news, in the sense of the nationals', but do provide a measure of free advertising for many local groups - a prime function of any community organ, and for that NWWN should be applauded.

The NWWN isn't the place of choice for the aspiring Murdoch, that's for sure, but I feel it performs a valuable service in the area and is better than the free alternatives in that respect. 
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
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I realised that I didn't care about endless pages of what kids were doing in schools.
I also got heartily sick of local fundraising efforts, ... noble though they are, they are NOT NEWS.

But...photos of kids in local schools do sell papers  

For each class of 30, you sell 30 papers (maybe)!  Big deal!
The whole thing has gone down hill since the Jone's sold out!
Like Fester, we find the most interesting section is the Obits, and if one of the family is a local it is even more interesting!   WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on July 24, 2011, 09:09:26 AM
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I realised that I didn't care about ensless pages of what kids were doing in schools.
I also got heartily sick of local fundraising efforts, ... noble though they are, they are NOT NEWS.

But...photos of kids in local schools do sell papers and - to be fair - a lot of people complain bitterly that 'all news is bad', which is hardly the case when a local paper like the NWWN celebrates the positive as often as it does.

Local fund raising efforts may not be news, in the sense of the nationals', but do provide a measure of free advertising for many local groups - a prime function of any community organ, and for that NWWN should be applauded.

The NWWN isn't the place of choice for the aspiring Murdoch, that's for sure, but I feel it performs a valuable service in the area and is better than the free alternatives in that respect. 

But... the dwindling sales of the NWWN would suggest that these things don't sell papers.
Yes, the local charity efforts and school stuff are very laudable, just not really that captivating.
Maybe the NWWN is more at home in a 'local interest' category, rather than a 'newspaper'

'Ho Hum' is my verdict on the publication this last few months.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on July 27, 2011, 10:40:43 PM
Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge spotted at Cineworld Llandudno Junction.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/07/21/prince-william-and-duchess-of-cambridge-spotted-at-cineworld-in-llandudno-junction-55243-29090497/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/07/21/prince-william-and-duchess-of-cambridge-spotted-at-cineworld-in-llandudno-junction-55243-29090497/)

Interesting scoop by the North Wales Weekly News there.

Nothing in this forum or any local blogs regarding the sighting.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2011, 08:07:47 AM
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Nothing in this forum or any local blogs regarding the sighting.  $walesflag$
Perhaps because no-one cares...?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on July 28, 2011, 08:11:31 AM
Stephen obviously does....
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 28, 2011, 09:25:25 AM
who are they?  ???   :laugh:
Title: Re NORTH WALES: PIONEER JULY 27TH 2011 " THEY SHOULD BE SEEN BUT NOT HEARD
Post by: gunnerboy on July 28, 2011, 01:01:24 PM
RE - quote pioneer newspaper  -  Noisy play sessions in a library have angered a town councillor.
Cllr Ann yates a former mayor of LLandudno was shocked by the noise from children taking part in a story time session at the refurbished library on mostyn st llandudno.

Just about sums up the mentallity of our so called councillors for heavenssake
if you find that a distraction pick another time to use the library its for everybody to use and enjoy
is it not refreshing to see youngsters partake in such activaties and enjoying themselves regardless

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2011, 01:29:14 PM
Once you've been Mayor it's very hard to remove the Tricorn Jobsworth Hat!   She is 70 after all and we know what the oldies are like for laying down the law!    WWW

The Town Council Web Site is full of silly spelling errors again!   See how many you can spot.   For the experts - watch for gramatical errors!    :D
Title: Re: Re NORTH WALES: PIONEER JULY 27TH 2011 " THEY SHOULD BE SEEN BUT NOT HEARD
Post by: Pendragon on July 28, 2011, 02:07:15 PM
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RE - quote pioneer newspaper  -  Noisy play sessions in a library have angered a town councillor.
Cllr Ann yates a former mayor of LLandudno was shocked by the noise from children taking part in a story time session at the refurbished library on mostyn st llandudno.

Just about sums up the mentallity of our so called councillors for heavenssake
if you find that a distraction pick another time to use the library its for everybody to use and enjoy
is it not refreshing to see youngsters partake in such activaties and enjoying themselves regardless


Gunnerboy I agree with you entirely it's about time these dinosaurs realised how out of touch they really are. 
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on July 28, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
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Stephen obviously does....

Steven....

Maybe I'm getting caught up in all the US euphoria regarding the couple. The Duchess seems to be following in Princess Diana's footsteps with regard to being a fashion icon over here.

Copies of her ring, her outfits she's worn etc can be found in stores, and advertised on TV.


 

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2011, 07:58:58 PM
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The Duchess seems to be following in Princess Diana's footsteps

Let's hope she steers clear of Paris then....
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on July 29, 2011, 10:49:06 AM
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The Duchess seems to be following in Princess Diana's footsteps

Let's hope she steers clear of Paris then....

Diana wasn't steering Dave.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Quiggs on July 29, 2011, 02:11:42 PM
Further comment is unneccesary   :(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 02, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
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You and I know, Wrex, - that would just be too easy!   WWW

I don't normally respond to comments on blogs, but can't let such an erroneous comment to go unanswered.
Each week the Weekly News carries at the very least between five and six Llandudno stories of over 300, words and many other shorter newsfile pieces. However it must be remembered that the general edition of the paper doesn't just cover Llandudno, it also gives coverage to Deganwy, Conwy, Llandudno Junction, Penmaenmawr and Llanfairfechan and each of those areas has a right to page space.
I notice in previous postings that the paper has been accused of ignoring the Victorian Extravaganza and this is also inaccurate. The Weekly News has always covered the event, and invariably it is given pre-publicity and a picture spread.
Stories have to be based on hard fact, not rumour, speculation, or supposition and if a story meets the necessary critierion it will not be ignored.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2011, 02:00:36 PM
Welcome to the Forum, Craigydonian.  $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Pendragon on August 02, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again the NWWN is completely bias towards the Police and the Council.  I only buy the paper when a local history piece has been submitted by my Gt Aunty Lorna from Penmaenmawr or a particular topic takes my interest (which is a rarity)  :(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 02, 2011, 04:30:46 PM
  :( Sorry to disagree Craigydonian but the papers coverage of news for this town is abysmal and the Thursday before this years extravaganza there was no coverage whatsoever. :rage:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 03, 2011, 12:29:52 PM
It looks as though we'll have to agree to disagree.   
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
I think that over all the NWWN is abysmal.  The coverage of local events is mainly by pictures.   The coverage over more serious news is pathetic.  Overall the Advertising to Editorial ratio is unfair to both the Advertiser and the Reader.  So much advertising that they don't get read because the readers are searching for the news and just page skip.   And with so much advertising there is Little room for local news.  If I were in business, unless I could have the front "ears" I would never advertise in it!   >>>

The best section is definitely the Obits and the sooner we see the Obit for the NWWN the better!   WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Parry on August 03, 2011, 05:00:26 PM
Yorkie, advertising is the lifeline for newspapers in the UK. I was speaking to a landscape gardener from Colwyn Bay yesterday who said he has seen a sharp rise in customers after advertising in the NWWN recently. I don't think the adverts are overread. If our hard news stories are pathetic  then please share some examples.

 
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
Parry - What I have expressed is an opinion which is my opinion.  Thank goodness we don't all agree!   ;D

I am not saying that advertising doesn't pay, when it is in the correct media it does.   In the 1980's I had an advertising budget of £500K  and I had to make sure it paid.  But as a Reader of the NWWN I want better value for my 77 pence than I am getting at the moment.   
:rage:

I get all the adverts I want on TV and in the Pioneer, plus many recommendations from this and other Forums!   
££$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 03, 2011, 11:01:12 PM
My belief is that the NWWN is less of a newspaper,and more of a local interest magazine.

But, this is borne out of two direct pressures, one good the other not so good.

1, On the good side, I hail from a city where the first 20 pages of the DAILY (not weekly) paper is packed with murders, rapes and heinous crimes of all sorts.  The North Wales Coast is much more sedate, I am thankful for it, and it means there is less real news to report.

2, I think the NWWN is chronically under funded, which is WHY, (as Yorkie says) the ratio of adverts to 'news' is so out of kilter.
The adverts are necessary to keep the paper in circulation, and perpetuate the small amount of news coverage by keeping too few journalists employed.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2011, 08:17:26 AM
I always enjoy reading the Weekly News (and have done for 30 years) but think it's certainly fair to say that it looks as though the budgets have been cut significantly since it was taken over by Trinity in 1988. Example of this - you often see the same story that appeared in the Daily Post a couple of days earlier, pretty much word for word, and you also see the odd story from outside the area that looks as though it was added to fill in a blank space.

This link has some interesting statistical information about the Weekly News and a breakdown of its circulation:
http://www.nsdatabase.co.uk/newspaperdetail.cfm?paperid=751 (http://www.nsdatabase.co.uk/newspaperdetail.cfm?paperid=751)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 04, 2011, 09:14:47 AM
Dave, if you remember I found that old August 18th 1977 copy of the Weekley News under our bathroom carpet and it was a broadsheet back then and very interesting too.  Headline news 'Help for people stranded by bridge'  ( to do with Tal -y-Cafn bridge) It's fragile but still readable!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on August 04, 2011, 09:21:54 AM
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On the good side, I hail from a city where the first 20 pages of the DAILY (not weekly) paper is packed with murders, rapes and heinous crimes of all sorts.  The North Wales Coast is much more sedate, I am thankful for it, and it means there is less real news to report.

Exactly my thoughts. Sometimes no news is good news.  Z@@ But if there's no news to report, it can't be reported.

What kind of news are people actually seeking?

Take Conwy County for example. Of all the six Unitary Authority areas, Conwy has the lowest proportion of people aged
16 and under (17%), the lowest proportion of people of working age (60%) and the
highest proportion of people aged 65 and over (23%).


With figures like that, one can see why there's not much news happening.

http://www.wedhs.org.uk/pdf/pub/nwales_regional.pdf (http://www.wedhs.org.uk/pdf/pub/nwales_regional.pdf)

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
There may not be that much actual news in terms of man murdered in pub or similar, but there is certainly a lot that could be covered that isn't - too often, a story consists of a rehashed press release or council report rather than any real journalism.

Let's take the Pier Pavilion site, for example. I hear people in town complaining about it constantly - yet the NWWN has never really done a proper feature on it. It was I that did the digging at the Land Registry to find out who the real owner was, something that the NWWN should have done and they could maybe even tracked him down or just phoned him to ask him what his plans are for the site etc etc and put his side of the story across?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on August 04, 2011, 09:34:49 AM
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There may not be that much actual news in terms of man murdered in pub or similar, but there is certainly a lot that could be covered that isn't - too often, a story consists of a rehashed press release or council report rather than any real journalism.

Let's take the Pier Pavilion site, for example. I hear people in town complaining about it constantly - yet the NWWN has never really done a proper feature on it. It was I that did the digging at the Land Registry to find out who the real owner was, something that the NWWN should have done and they could maybe even tracked him down or just phoned him to ask him what his plans are for the site etc etc and put his side of the story across?

Good point.

Reporters reading this forum take note!

The more publicity and pressure on the site's owner to do something the better.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on August 04, 2011, 09:45:17 AM
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There may not be that much actual news in terms of man murdered in pub or similar, but there is certainly a lot that could be covered that isn't - too often, a story consists of a rehashed press release or council report rather than any real journalism.

Let's take the Pier Pavilion site, for example. I hear people in town complaining about it constantly - yet the NWWN has never really done a proper feature on it. It was I that did the digging at the Land Registry to find out who the real owner was, something that the NWWN should have done and they could maybe even tracked him down or just phoned him to ask him what his plans are for the site etc etc and put his side of the story across?

Good point.

Reporters reading this forum take note!

The more publicity and pressure on the site's owner to do something the better.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 04, 2011, 11:00:31 AM
Trojan
I take it the first post was for the Daily Post and the second for the NWWN?

Or am I just having a bout of deja vu?    ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 04, 2011, 12:02:21 PM
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There may not be that much actual news in terms of man murdered in pub or similar, but there is certainly a lot that could be covered that isn't - too often, a story consists of a rehashed press release or council report rather than any real journalism.

Let's take the Pier Pavilion site, for example. I hear people in town complaining about it constantly - yet the NWWN has never really done a proper feature on it. It was I that did the digging at the Land Registry to find out who the real owner was, something that the NWWN should have done and they could maybe even tracked him down or just phoned him to ask him what his plans are for the site etc etc and put his side of the story across?

The Weekly News has known the name and contact details of the real owner for several years. He's a gentleman living in the Midlands, who refuses to answer enquiries about his plans for the Pavilion. He has also proved intransigent when various companies have put in offers for the site - it seems his valuation of it is well above what the current market value is considered to be.
The only solution to this problem would be for Conwy County Council to seek a compulsory purchase order, but this would involve a considerable outlay of council taxpayers money. The Weekly News has pointed this out in the past, and does keep up to date with the situation - see today's issue!!
Unlike some other local newspapers the Weekly News doesn't rely on press releases for stories it relies heavily on ciontacts who inform reporters of stories they feel should be covered. Often these are positive good news stories, and thankfully we don't live in an area where there is too much bad news, however the paper never shirks from covering controversial stories provided they can be presented in a fair and balanced way and don't have adverse legal implications.
Good point.

I re-jigged your post so it displays properly - DaveR
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 04, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
 ??? Craigydonian we know a Mr Taylor from Worcester owns the site what we want to know is why CCBC don;t act on the mess he owns, have a campaign to force CCBC into acting,now that would be a use for the NWWN.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Parry on August 04, 2011, 04:50:39 PM
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I think that over all the NWWN is abysmal.  The coverage of local events is mainly by pictures.   The coverage over more serious news is pathetic.  Overall the Advertising to Editorial ratio is unfair to both the Advertiser and the Reader.  So much advertising that they don't get read because the readers are searching for the news and just page skip.   And with so much advertising there is Little room for local news.  If I were in business, unless I could have the front "ears" I would never advertise in it!   >>>

The best section is definitely the Obits and the sooner we see the Obit for the NWWN the better!   WWW


I respect your comments Yorkie. But surely they should also be based on fact. If you are stating that there is so much advertising that stories don't get read or if Wrex states that there have been no Llandudno news for weeks, then it isn't true.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 04, 2011, 06:40:46 PM
Hello again Parry-

My views are my views, Wrex's views are Wrex's views.  Your views are your views.  I quite frankly, don't give a toss for what you think of my comments and do not have to prove anything.   

I may be right and I may be wrong, so may Wrex, but shortly to justify matters I will be starting an analysis of today's issue of the NWWN, column inch by column inch.  And if you want it in metric measure, I will gladly carry out a conversion for you.

A quick look shows about 27 pages of mixed editorial and advertising and 53 of advertising.  I think my comments will be substantiated.  Now why don't you do the same and see if we agree?   
££$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 04, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
Of course there are more pages of advertising to editorial if there weren't no newspaper could survive - certainly not a weekly.
I think the crux of this debate is that the some people would like the Weekly News to be the Llandudno Weekly News and ignore the rest of the large geographic area it covers, and I'm afraid that just isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2011, 08:40:34 PM
But isn't that the idea of having several different editions?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 04, 2011, 08:42:53 PM
The ABC figures on the latest Certificate is a total circulation of 14,127 copies spread amongst the various areas.  Not very impressive. 
 >>>
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: outlawowl on August 04, 2011, 09:29:14 PM
A bit surprised with all the negative comments about our local newspapers.
Times are tough for most businesses . . . including newspapers . . . and we are fortunate in media terms to live in a region like the Colwyn Bay/Llandudno/Conwy area where we are served by a regional daily (The Post), a paid-for weekly (The Weekly News) and a free newspaper (The Pioneer).
In many parts of the country, newspapers have closed and people are left to find out information from blogs (some like this are great but are in the minority), from community mags or local radio...none of which give the breadth the coverage available in local newspapers.
We should read them, contribute to them and not moan about the few pence they cost to buy........and they also give added flavour to your fish and chips ..
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 04, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
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But isn't that the idea of having several different editions?

Living in Penrhyn Bay I never know which edition to buy, so I just look at the website, mind you now we have the amazing Nigel the news bot, I can see it all here!  D)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 05, 2011, 07:06:56 AM
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A bit surprised with all the negative comments about our local newspapers.
Times are tough for most businesses . . . including newspapers . . . and we are fortunate in media terms to live in a region like the Colwyn Bay/Llandudno/Conwy area where we are served by a regional daily (The Post), a paid-for weekly (The Weekly News) and a free newspaper (The Pioneer).

What is at they say, "Three's a crowd." ?   There is probably the crux of the matter, we have three rather poor quality rags all putting out the same information and the advertisers having to pay through the nose to be included in each of them.   Reduce it to one good weekly newspaper and the problem could be solved.  Please discuss!     >>>
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 05, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
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But isn't that the idea of having several different editions?

Living in Penrhyn Bay I never know which edition to buy, so I just look at the website, mind you now we have the amazing Nigel the news bot, I can see it all here!  D)

There are three editions of the Weekly News.
The General edition covers Llandudno, Deganwy, Llandudno Junction, Conwy, Penmaenmawr and Llandudno Junction.
The Colwyn edition covers Colwyn Bay, Mochdre, Old Colwyn, Rhos-on-Sea, Llanddulas and Abergele.
The Conwy Valley edition covers the area from Glan Conwy to Cerrigydruidion including Betws-y-Coed and Capel Curig.
Some stories run in all three editions, but the front page and page three always carry stories directly related to the area covered by that particular edition.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 05, 2011, 02:51:12 PM
 :) Hello again Craigydonian,i have a test for the NWWN  find out why the Venue Arena is underused , your paper in the past has reported how much the complex loses in a year , so send a journalist to meet the management and ask why there are no concerts on a weekly basics [ or one every 6 months ] this will not be a made up storey it will be real and you can then tell all Llandudno readers why this Arena is so empty nite after nite after nite. Z**
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 05, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
Wrex, every theatre in the UK almost without exception operates at a loss and rely on sponsorship and subsidies to sustain them, but it's generally felt that this is worthwhile to sustain live theatre.
The arena was not intended to cater solely for concerts, it also house conferences and exhibitions as well as theatrical performances which won't fill the 1,200 seat theatre.
Llandudno Youth Music Theatre recently presented the musical The Wiz there, and it was a fantastic production put on by local youngsters aged from 11 to 18. There are also theatre and ballet workshops there on a regular basis.
In November it will host a major national conference, as well as Wales Rally GB, which between them will bring thousands of high spending visitors to the resort.
However i think it would be unrealistic to expect it to host events on a nightly or even weekly basis, even some of the country's major venues don't achieve that.
I think the truth about concerts is that it is too small to take major bands/solo artists which somewhat limits its' appeal. Perhaps you should write to the theatre management to suggest some acts/names you would like to see there?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 05, 2011, 03:53:41 PM
 :) The Arena holds 2,500 and has had lots of top groups which proves it can be done,the next one is Will Young in November. My gripe is why so few a question the NWWN COULD ASK, IF THEY COULD BE BOTHERED. :rage:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 05, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Like any propoganda material the NWWN prints what it wants to.     WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 06, 2011, 09:14:05 AM
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There are three editions of the Weekly News.
The General edition covers Llandudno, Deganwy, Llandudno Junction, Conwy, Penmaenmawr and Llandudno Junction.
The Colwyn edition covers Colwyn Bay, Mochdre, Old Colwyn, Rhos-on-Sea, Llanddulas and Abergele.
The Conwy Valley edition covers the area from Glan Conwy to Cerrigydruidion including Betws-y-Coed and Capel Curig.
Some stories run in all three editions, but the front page and page three always carry stories directly related to the area covered by that particular edition.
Hope this helps.

It seems to me that we only need one edition, if I buy the Llandudno copy it implies that I have no interest in Colwyn Bay news, this area is not large enough to need splitting up news wise, just do one issue, it might even save on costs?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on August 08, 2011, 01:08:53 AM
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There are three editions of the Weekly News.
The General edition covers Llandudno, Deganwy, Llandudno Junction, Conwy, Penmaenmawr and Llandudno Junction.
The Colwyn edition covers Colwyn Bay, Mochdre, Old Colwyn, Rhos-on-Sea, Llanddulas and Abergele.
The Conwy Valley edition covers the area from Glan Conwy to Cerrigydruidion including Betws-y-Coed and Capel Curig.
Some stories run in all three editions, but the front page and page three always carry stories directly related to the area covered by that particular edition.
Hope this helps.

It seems to me that we only need one edition, if I buy the Llandudno copy it implies that I have no interest in Colwyn Bay news, this area is not large enough to need splitting up news wise, just do one issue, it might even save on costs?

Yes quite. The title North Wales Weekly News is rather misleading as Craigydonian says the paper only covers an area of the North Wales coast  from Abergele to Penmaenmawr and a section of the Conwy Valley.

Rhyl and Wrexham are major towns in North Wales and Bangor is a major city but are outside the coverage area, apparently.

Surely there's news happening in these areas also?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2011, 08:15:35 AM
That's an interesting idea. I like read about what's happening in the Conwy Valley and Colwyn Bay areas but have to use the website to do so.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SDQ on August 08, 2011, 08:42:04 AM
I always thought the NWWN covered a wider area as the name suggests and the more local issues were covered by the Llandudno Advertiser, Abergele & St Asaph Visitor & Rhyl Journal. Surely if they did just one issue covering a wider area with a section for each major town it would make more sense and increase circulation. As Dave has said, a lot of us like to read about the other areas as well as the one we live in!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: dwsi on August 08, 2011, 07:44:28 PM
Coming this week: Your new-look Weekly News - North Wales Weekly News http://bit.ly/osXCt1 (http://bit.ly/osXCt1)

Have they been reading this forum?  D)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2011, 07:48:48 PM
I hope they get their RSS Feeds sorted out so poor old Nigel the News Bot doesn't get the blame for out of date news!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 08, 2011, 07:50:46 PM
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Coming this week: Your new-look Weekly News - North Wales Weekly News http://bit.ly/osXCt1 (http://bit.ly/osXCt1)

Have they been reading this forum?  D)

They all read this forum, every last word of it  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 08, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
 ;) That;s right they all read the forum and Oscar but they still can;t understand why we get pee;d off with them for NOT following any of the threads up, thick or wot. D)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on August 09, 2011, 07:33:31 AM
Pick up your Weekly News this week and will will see something a little different. (This doesn't make sense)

As always it will be jam packed with news, entertainment and sport but will have a slightly different feel. (what, no adverts and it will feel like it's made from recycled toilet paper?)

We hope you like it and look forward to getting your feedback. (You can be sure of that)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 09, 2011, 08:08:57 AM
I did hear a rumour that to get a doubling in circulation this week they are making it a BOGOF.

Buy one get one Free!    L0L
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on August 10, 2011, 04:19:27 PM
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There are three editions of the Weekly News.
The General edition covers Llandudno, Deganwy, Llandudno Junction, Conwy, Penmaenmawr and Llandudno Junction.
The Colwyn edition covers Colwyn Bay, Mochdre, Old Colwyn, Rhos-on-Sea, Llanddulas and Abergele.
The Conwy Valley edition covers the area from Glan Conwy to Cerrigydruidion including Betws-y-Coed and Capel Curig.
Some stories run in all three editions, but the front page and page three always carry stories directly related to the area covered by that particular edition.
Hope this helps.

It seems to me that we only need one edition, if I buy the Llandudno copy it implies that I have no interest in Colwyn Bay news, this area is not large enough to need splitting up news wise, just do one issue, it might even save on costs?

Yes quite. The title North Wales Weekly News is rather misleading as Craigydonian says the paper only covers an area of the North Wales coast  from Abergele to Penmaenmawr and a section of the Conwy Valley.

Rhyl and Wrexham are major towns in North Wales and Bangor is a major city but are outside the coverage area, apparently.

Surely there's news happening in these areas also?

When the Weekly News was founded in Llanrwst in the late 19th century the owners chose a title which  is generally acknowledged as being misleading as the paper has never covered a wider area than the one it covers now.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2011, 09:04:48 PM
North Wales was smaller in the 19th Century!   WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 10, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
and a week was only 6 days! thats inflation for you  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 11, 2011, 09:48:08 AM
Just finished reading this weeks issue and it has worded out at approximately 9.687 pence per minute.  That's more expensive than the Cinema!    Next week I think I'll just read the Obits in the shop whilst I pay for my Daily Express.    L0L
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2011, 11:48:41 PM
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Just finished reading this weeks issue and it has worded out at approximately 9.687 pence per minute.  That's more expensive than the Cinema!    Next week I think I'll just read the Obits in the shop whilst I pay for my Daily Express.    L0L

Yorkie, as long as you don't feature in the Obits, then you are doing well !
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 12, 2011, 10:20:02 AM
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Yorkie, as long as you don't feature in the Obits, then you are doing well !


That's why I look - just to make sure that I'm still here!    L0L
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on August 13, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
I was interested to see that the NWWN had a new look this week that is until I read it.  What has changed?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on August 13, 2011, 12:41:25 PM
Going back around 20 posts but still on this subject, a bigger NWWN could'nt surplant the Rhyl Journal. Thats a rival paper, and always has been.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2011, 03:53:31 PM
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I was interested to see that the NWWN had a new look this week that is until I read it.  What has changed?

Zilch, nothing, nowt, keiner, nicht, rien, nada, ingenting, ei mitään, Ничего, niente, Τίποτα, Niets, Wala lang, nashi, ekkert, Nihil, dim byd  -  Ble mae'r ty bach?    :D
 
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 14, 2011, 01:22:30 AM
 L0L  Funny Yorkie,   very funny....   :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 14, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
Just trying to cater for everyone.    Do you know that you can get Government leaflets (especially how to claim benefits) in well over 50 languages?   Bet we wouldn't get them in English or Welsh in other countries.   Funny old World we live in.   ZXZ   Z**   WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 16, 2011, 09:29:12 PM
 The Pioneer seems to have gone back to being a Colwyn Bay paper.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 18, 2011, 08:19:20 AM
Its shortly after 8.00 a.m. and I have finished reading the NWWN, what little there was to read amonst the advertisments.
I did read a few adverts, in particular those on page 69 (very apt), where they are advertising advertising space!    ;D

Can the Estate Agents justify the great expense they must have with the large space they take?   Or is that why their fees are so high?   :roll:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 18, 2011, 12:34:25 PM
I see that the Ellens Castle Hotel received a nice bit of free advertising in the Weekly News this week - a form of compensation for them being highlighted in that article about failing pubs and hotels last week, no doubt! I suspect the Weekly News received a very angry phone call from the owner, particularly as he is trying to sell the business at present.  :o
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on August 19, 2011, 12:22:18 PM
Interested to see in this weeks NWWN that a plot of land is for sale by auction on Ty'n y Coed Road???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 20, 2011, 12:54:28 AM
Does it specify where this land is, Llechwedd?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on August 20, 2011, 11:25:23 AM
It's an auctioneers ad. on a right hand page and it refers to land with planning permission near Headland house and tram track???  I think the auction is on Monday - sorry given my paper away.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 20, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
Hmmm, at the foot of Llican Terrace, and where it leads into Ty'n y Coed Road there was some land for sale about 3 years ago.
Some workshop or garage type building was demolished, and the land was sold for development.
It is accross the road from where the tram track bends round to go up Killen's hill.

No building ever took place though, so this must be it, back on the market again.
If the banking is excavated properly, any building there will have the most spectacular views, right down into the bay.

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SDQ on August 20, 2011, 07:45:48 PM
I'd be surprised if they gave planning permission for a house to be built there, but I agree about the view as it's lined up perfectly with the road for an uninterrupted view.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 20, 2011, 11:15:24 PM
Planning permission was granted SDQ, and the land was sold (and partly cleared) on that basis.

But then it stalled,  I just assumed it was down to a lack of funds in the recession.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2011, 11:20:56 PM
I believe..that was the property/land that took so long to get planning permission the developer eventually submitted a complaint to CBBC that the Planning Dept were incompetent? I could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on August 20, 2011, 11:44:18 PM
If so, and it eventually got passed on that basis, is that perhaps why the development never went ahead?

A rhetorical question,  its only speculation.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on August 25, 2011, 05:51:38 PM
Saw the headlines today so i bought the paper, it actually had Llandudno news and letters so for a change it was a good read ,nice to see the kiddies indoor play center up and running. :P
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on August 26, 2011, 10:36:15 AM
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Saw the headlines today so i bought the paper, it actually had Llandudno news and letters so for a change it was a good read ,nice to see the kiddies indoor play center up and running. :P

They have made a magnificent effort, lovely pots of flowers outside the doors ready for the opening this morning as well. $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: dwsi on September 01, 2011, 01:57:42 PM
Plaid Wrecsam: Welsh newspaper circulation continues to slide http://bit.ly/phfdYS (http://bit.ly/phfdYS)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on September 08, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
Todays NWWN.  RNLI called out inshore rescue boat to a woman who waded in to sea at Rhos.  The boat was travelling by ROAD when re-called.  eh?  What if there was atraffic jam etc.?  Surely it's juts as quick by sea. ???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2011, 01:36:45 PM
The Inshore Lifeboat is always towed by Land Rover to the scene of a rescue. I've seen them travelling and they move pretty fast with the blue lights and siren on, it would never be as fast in a boat.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Llechwedd on September 09, 2011, 12:43:18 PM
Oh.....ok :(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on September 09, 2011, 01:04:11 PM
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The Inshore Lifeboat is always towed by Land Rover to the scene of a rescue. I've seen them travelling and they move pretty fast with the blue lights and siren on, it would never be as fast in a boat.

I can't see how you would get the Land Rover inside a boat to begin with.  ???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
I see North Wales Newspapers have just launched a new website, to display and sell photos from their Photo Library. What a great idea, if only the Daily Post/Weekly News could do something similar - they have a vast treasure trove of local history that no-one ever gets to see.

http://www.localbygones.co.uk/ (http://www.localbygones.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 17, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
I was very annoyed to see that my photo of the Torchlight Parade in Conwy has appeared on page 10 of this week's Weekly News. This is a copyright image and no-one has sought my permission to use it in a publication or paid me for the use of it.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6095/6333306898_0a344bcac6_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6333306898/)
Conwy By Torchlight (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6333306898/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on November 17, 2011, 12:55:08 PM
Sue them!   In fact save the Legal Fees, just send them an invoice for £1,000.00 or whatever you think is reasonable!

If you use my advice I will bill you accordingly!   _))*   _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Pendragon on November 17, 2011, 01:11:57 PM
Cheeky buggers mind you knowing the weekly news there wouldn't have been anyone there taking photos anyway.  I mean this kind of event is not news worthy is it  WWW.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 17, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
I'm sure you should get some compensation (again) last time I thing it was architects wasn't it? WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 17, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
DaveR, I suggest you immediately send an e-mail to the Editor seeking an early explanation.

Please let us know how you get on.

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: dwsi on November 17, 2011, 05:12:57 PM
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Sue them!   In fact save the Legal Fees, just send them an invoice for £1,000.00 or whatever you think is reasonable!

If you use my advice I will bill you accordingly!   _))*   _))*

Believe it or not, this is not as stupid as it sounds. An actor friend of mine, sends an invoice to the relevant production company whenever he appears in a clip show of some kind. He always gets paid  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on November 17, 2011, 05:45:45 PM
Stick an invoice up their jacksie mate... its outrageous, and laziness on their part.

£1000 for the infringement, and £1000 for the theft of intellectual property.

Its outrageous, quite a few things have been outrageous today.  I'm off to 'Niggles' to tell you ALL about it.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 17, 2011, 07:26:43 PM
I have emailed the Editor and await his response.  $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on November 17, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
Your communication will probably finish up in the Readers' Letters section!    _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on November 17, 2011, 09:36:33 PM
 Becareful Dave, going by the four full pages in there today i think a certain  gentleman must have bought the paper ,only buissness not advertised seems to be the Baytree.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 17, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Half of the Baytree is up for sale.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2011, 08:43:08 AM
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I was very annoyed to see that my photo of the Torchlight Parade in Conwy has appeared on page 10 of this week's Weekly News. This is a copyright image and no-one has sought my permission to use it in a publication or paid me for the use of it.
This matter has now been resolved. It turned out that the Weekly News acted in good faith and were passed the photo from a third party who was obviously not conversant with copyright issues. I shall not name them on here to spare their blushes!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2011, 08:35:09 AM
Congratulations to Judith Phillips for her long service to the Community by way of her articles for the NWWN!

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Pendragon on November 24, 2011, 10:48:46 AM
Are you joking Yorkie !!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on November 24, 2011, 11:05:15 AM
http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/11/24/north-wales-weekly-news-journalist-judith-phillips-celebrates-her-50-year-career-in-the-spotlight-55243-29829734/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/11/24/north-wales-weekly-news-journalist-judith-phillips-celebrates-her-50-year-career-in-the-spotlight-55243-29829734/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2011, 01:06:04 PM
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Are you joking Yorkie !!

No - I think Judith has worked long and hard over the years.  She has done what her Editor and the publisher have required.  50 years of working for that outfit deserves a medal let alone  a few lines of congratulations!

Without her there would not be much of a paper, or should I say even less than there is!   :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2011, 01:51:34 PM
I like to buy the Weekly News, as much to support it as a local newspaper than anything else. But, I have to say it's becoming a struggle to justify the 77p.  I read this week's copy in 5 minutes flat - it seems to be all soft 'human interest' stories than any  real local news.  :(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: dwsi on November 24, 2011, 06:21:59 PM
Liverpool Daily Post to switch from daily to weekly frequency in the New Year - Liverpool News - News - Liverpool Daily Post http://bit.ly/vXhBr5 (http://bit.ly/vXhBr5)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Pendragon on November 24, 2011, 06:28:55 PM
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Are you joking Yorkie !!

No - I think Judith has worked long and hard over the years.  She has done what her Editor and the publisher have required.  50 years of working for that outfit deserves a medal let alone  a few lines of congratulations!

Without her there would not be much of a paper, or should I say even less than there is!   :D
Sorry but i think Judith is as bad a reporter as the rest of them.  Twice I  had to contact the paper regarding what Judith had written off the back of press releases given by the council with no consultation with myself her excuse she couldn't contact me, what a pile of drivel when you consider opening hrs were 11am till 11pm.  nah sorry the reason she's been there for 50yrs is a pay packet every month for basically doing naff all to do with local reporting.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2011, 06:42:09 PM
Sorry to hear of your experience -  but at least you haven't had your phone tapped, your dustbin searched, notes in your childrens satchels, been hounded by reporters or had photographers following you and your family's every move!

The NWWN and TM Group do have a complaints proceedure or there is always the Press Complaints Commission.

I had a similar problem with a Llandudno Town Council statement given to the NWWN and my complaint was dealt with very effectively and efficiently by Judith and Steve Stratford.  Not so by the Town Council.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Pendragon on November 24, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
Hmm all I got was a tiny little apology in the paper.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
The front page NWWN photo this week of snow on the prom appears to date from the 1970s or early 80s, as the lamposts have not been painted white for many years...
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2011, 03:18:23 PM
Be thankful, DaveR, they have not 'borrowed' one of yours again
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 09:54:22 PM
Indeed, Bri!  ;)

I wonder how many people noticed the fake letter in the NWWN this week? How did they allow 'Oscar Roberts' to get through their checking procedure? Or do they even have a checking procedure?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on December 24, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
Ask Judith??   _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: martin on December 24, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
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Indeed, Bri!  ;)

I wonder how many people noticed the fake letter in the NWWN this week? How did they allow 'Oscar Roberts' to get through their checking procedure? Or do they even have a checking procedure?
Does it have some numbers in the title?  That's my first guess anyway.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on December 24, 2011, 04:28:56 PM
No letter is published unless a bona fide name and address are supplied.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 03, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
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The front page NWWN photo this week of snow on the prom appears to date from the 1970s or early 80s, as the lamposts have not been painted white for many years...

Excellent observation skills, DaveR.

It was taken in 1982 by Gareth Pritchard.

As confirmed today in flashBACK on page 26 of the Daily Post.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2012, 01:16:27 PM
 $thanx$  $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Mikethewatch on January 03, 2012, 05:25:45 PM
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No letter is published unless a bona fide name and address are supplied.

Are you sure?
I remember a friend having letters printed  under many different names, all were published and never checked!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 05, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
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I suspect what will happen in the end is that TrinityMirror (or whoever owns it by then) will decide to pull the plug once it becomes economically unviable (for them). At that point, somebody local could step in, buy it, and return it to its roots by making the suggested changes. 

In 2009, the NWWN sold 15,124 copies (decline of 8.3% on previous year)
In 2010, the NWWN sold 14,127 copies, (decline of 5.3% on previous year)

I did a blog post on the NWWN a few years ago, still remains true!
http://llandudnoandcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-wales-weekly-news.html (http://llandudnoandcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-wales-weekly-news.html)

$walesflag$
The NWWN circulation continues to decline, now down to 13,246 in Jan2011-Jun2011:
http://www.nsdatabase.co.uk/newspaperdetail.cfm?paperid=751 (http://www.nsdatabase.co.uk/newspaperdetail.cfm?paperid=751)

It's a dreadful shame but not a surprise.I've not spoken to a single person who thinks it is good value for money any more. Last week's edition was a disgrace - hardly worth 10p, let alone 77p. As I've always said, I like to support it by buying it but its becoming a real struggle to justify it.

How low will circulation have to go before management try something radical? Or are they happy to just let it eventually fold? Giving away stories in full on their website is just madness - why would anyone pay for something you can get for free? The website should just be used to hook people in to either buying the print edition or paying for the full story online.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: martin on January 05, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
I agree fully with DaveR, why bother to buy the paper when you can get the full thing on-line for free?  We used to buy the Daily Mail, but now just look at the on-line version, with the added bonus of it being updated as news develops, not last nights news as on the papers version.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 05, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
 One of the biggest events of the year is the extravaganza and the paper completly ignores it now,as you know i have been involved with it for ten years or so and i remember it having a wrap around on the week before,i think they spat the dummy when we had no money to advertize,but to ignore this event shows they have no interest unless money is involved.I used to beg Judith to put something in for me and it would always be the editor, yet i still supported the paper up until a year ago,but now i just use this forum and Oscar.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 12, 2012, 08:20:28 AM
Any Llandudno news in our local rag today.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 12, 2012, 08:45:33 AM
I can see no mention of us missing out on the faster broadband when it arrives.

It seems Prestatyn and Mold will be getting it.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on January 12, 2012, 10:53:41 AM
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I can see no mention of us missing out on the faster broadband when it arrives.

It seems Prestatyn and Mold will be getting it.

Llandudno is getting the faster broadband - the Weekly News reported that six weeks ago! Some parts of Conwy county will have to wait longer though.
Yes Wrex, there is Llandudno news in today's paper - there always is!!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 12, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
 $good$ Sorry Craigydonian ,i meant is there anything intereting about Llandudno, any journalist items about Llandudno issues.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on January 12, 2012, 04:34:46 PM
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$good$ Sorry Craigydonian ,i meant is there anything intereting about Llandudno, any journalist items about Llandudno issues.

Yes, several, including a response from Mike Priestley on the West Shore sand issue.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 12, 2012, 05:06:16 PM
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Llandudno is getting the faster broadband - the Weekly News reported that six weeks ago! Some parts of Conwy county will have to wait longer though.

Please accept my apologies, Craigydonian.

I was away on holiday and missed the editions on Thursdays 24 November and 1 December.

Sadly, I no longer bother asking my newsagent to keep back issues for me as I never get time to read them.

Nevertheless, it is interesting to read that Llandudno is definitely getting the faster broadband because this is what I read on page 6 of yesterday’s edition of the Pioneer.


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Towns including Prestatyn, Wrexham and Mold will be connected to the high-speed service while Conwy county has been overlooked.

Only one of you can be correct and I know who I believe.   D)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2012, 07:30:05 PM
http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/07/28/llandudno-to-get-faster-broadband-connection-55243-29129750/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/07/28/llandudno-to-get-faster-broadband-connection-55243-29129750/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: martin on January 12, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
Is it possible that there are two separate upgrades going on here, one fibre optic and the other and upgrade of the copper system, and it is the latter that we are possibly getting?  I know that both are being done by BT, just a thought.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on January 12, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
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Llandudno is getting the faster broadband - the Weekly News reported that six weeks ago! Some parts of Conwy county will have to wait longer though.

Please accept my apologies, Craigydonian.

I was away on holiday and missed the editions on Thursdays 24 November and 1 December.

Sadly, I no longer bother asking my newsagent to keep back issues for me as I never get time to read them.

Nevertheless, it is interesting to read that Llandudno is definitely getting the faster broadband because this is what I read on page 6 of yesterday’s edition of the Pioneer.


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Towns including Prestatyn, Wrexham and Mold will be connected to the high-speed service while Conwy county has been overlooked.

Only one of you can be correct and I know who I believe.   D)
I'm pleased to be vindicated!!!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 26, 2012, 09:45:09 AM
Yet again, with its issue of 26th January, the NWWN has excelled!

This week for our 80p we get 80 pages which at a single penny a page is not that dear and probably less than the cost of wrapping paper for the proverbial portion of fish and chips.  However, the content still leaves much to be desired as an analysis of the printed areas shows.  Results are from a page by page eye measure and may be a little inaccurate, and I mean just a little.

80     pages in total
 6.0   for Sport
 4.5   for Community News and Letters
14.5  for Editorial  (approx 18%)
55.0  for Advertising including Public Announcement

I just cannot understand how those people who pay for advertising can think that they are going to be read and obtain business from anything less than a full page advert.   I only bought it to read an Obit of a friend  but it was not there.  The family wisely chose to put it in the Pioneer, and if I had known I could have saved my 80p!
 :rage:

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on January 26, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
Hmm, so last weeks improvement (as reported by Yorkie and Dave R) appears to have been a flash in the pan.

I shall save my 80p this week, based on what I have just seen.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
I actually had a quick look through a customers edition this morning,thank god i did not buy that,there is no Llandudno news,no attempt to put or look into Llandudno issues and once again thank god i did not pay for tha.What the hell the editor thinks she is doing i don;t know.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on January 26, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
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I actually had a quick look through a customers edition this morning,thank god i did not buy that,there is no Llandudno news,no attempt to put or look into Llandudno issues and once again thank god i did not pay for tha.What the hell the editor thinks she is doing i don;t know.

Wrex - there are several Llandudno stories in this week's paper including the issue of the possible closure of the police station and its move to another location, the arrangements the town council has in hand for the Queen's Diamond Jubilee, and the ongoing cost of running the swimming pool, but as it happens this week there were stories from other areas covered by the paper which took precedence. As I have pointed out before, the paper isn't the Llandudno Weekly News, a fairer way to describe it would be the Conwy County Weekly News. The general edition which covers Llandudno also provides coverage of Llandudno Junction, Conwy, Penmaenmawr and Llanfairfechan and the people of these areas  have issues they want covered too. I know that a number of readers of this forum are from Conwy and might have been pleased by the front page story about the bail out of the civic hall.
In the next couple of weeks there will be some very strong Llandudno related stories which have been in the pipeline for some time but have needed research. Accuracy and fairness have to be paramount, rumour, speculation and innuendo have never been and never should be the preserve of a weekly newspaper.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Then lets have a LLandudno paper that people from Llandudno can buy and read about LLANDUDNO,IF I WANTED TO READ ABOUT OUTSIDE OF TOWN I WILL BUY THRR NWWN
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bellringer on January 26, 2012, 06:57:22 PM
Come on Wrex., do you really think that Llandudno is such that it could provide sufficient news and information to make and sustain a paper on its own?  After all there did used to be the Llandudno Advertiser and although I seem to remember it was free, it did not survive.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2012, 08:24:16 PM
Of course not Bellringer,im just sick of dros the editor keeps feeding us with no thought or imagination to keep readers who are looking for lalandudno news happy,thats all and at the end of the day she won;t get me back buying the paper.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 26, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
I think you will get a bit more support for this Crusade than the Xmas lights and I'm with you all the way!   I think this Forum has more up to date news than the NWWN and it is available free of charge and slap bang up to date.

Forums are proving to be the demise of the Press, many of whom are now offering on-line subscription services.    ;)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
 ;D How is this weeks edition,any Llandudno news ,any stories on why Sainsburys has stalled,why Llandudno railway station is stalled again, any news on the Tudno castle,Pier Pavilion,Clarence or is it still void of any of the local issues most of us WOULD like to read about. ££$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on February 02, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
Did you buy it today Wrex?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2012, 04:12:59 PM
No i can;t justify spending on it,i hope they have been listening but until things change there is no chance of me buying it again.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 02, 2012, 04:31:32 PM
Surely they can only print what has happened?  I'd love to read that the Pier Pavillion was being rebuilt and the station etc etc, but as nothings happening what stories do they have?  As I've said many times we need one issue to cover the area, more to read about then.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2012, 04:50:54 PM
As a community paper it would be nice for them to in vestigate WHY there is no movement on the issues that concern us and put some pressure on our beloved councillors
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 02, 2012, 06:37:28 PM
wrex, I think you will find the NWNN no longer has the resources to carry out the investigative journalism you are asking for.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on February 02, 2012, 07:49:17 PM
oh  well,never mind
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: outlawowl on February 02, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
Better stick with the Pioneer . . .most of the local news, its free . . . and its staff seem to have a feel for the town
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on February 24, 2012, 07:58:32 PM
Yesterday we forgot to buy the NWWN and only realised this evening!   Did we miss anything?

Just shows that you don't have to go "cold turkey" to give up!    $donald$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2012, 04:23:32 PM
Yorkie did you miss anything,next week they may feature your favorite event,the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza as it seems to have hit a little problem.It never warranted a mention the week before the event last year so maybe this time they will leave it alone. Never was sure why the NWWN decided the biggest event in Wales was not worthy of a mention,it could have been spite because they did not advertise with them,maybe they will explain oneday.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on February 27, 2012, 05:23:28 PM
I daren't commit to print all the rumours I have heard about the Extravaganza - Even though I don't like it myself I don't wish it any harm.   I enjoy my little holiday away instead!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on February 27, 2012, 06:07:16 PM
Yorkie you can have a holiday anytime,please don;t use the extravaganza as an excuse to go away.the rumour is you are joining the committee.What ever rumours are about ,this is the truth,the chairman has resigned and stepped down as event co-ordinator,so leaving those on the committee with a huge effort to get it on at such a late date.Any rumour that CCBC is taking it over are not true,they have their hands full in Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on February 27, 2012, 08:20:30 PM
Dear Wrex

Contrary to what you presume, we do not use the Extravaganza as an excuse to go away.  It is just convenient for us top go in Early May as we have been doing so for almost 20 years.
The fact that we miss the Extravaganza is a BONUS!    Z**

As far as the rumours are concerned, I consider them as such and they do not bear repeating.  Had they had some substance and worthy of publishing on this august Forum, I would have done so.   Your addition that CCBC was taking over is an extra to what I had heard.

Any rumour associated with me joining the Committee must be the figment of a lunatics warped imagination.  NEVER in a Million Years!!!   I can even probably name the source of that rumour.

I have pleasure in repeating for your benefit a sentence from my last posting  -- Even though I don't like it myself I don't wish it (the extravaganza) any harm.    WWW
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 08:28:05 PM
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Any rumour associated with me joining the Committee must be the figment of a lunatics warped imagination.
One can only agree.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on February 27, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
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Any rumour associated with me joining the Committee must be the figment of a lunatics warped imagination.
One can only agree.  :laugh:

The 'one' no doubt joined by the whole population of Wales!   $walesflag$  ;)   :D
Title: Daily Post
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 14, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
At teatime last night, this major story broke on the BBC Website at 5.12pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-17356803 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-17356803)

This morning, the story does not get a mention in the Daily Post.

However, the Liverpool - Everton football match ended just before 10pm and it is all over the back page and another two inside pages as well together with photographs.

This leaves me wondering if perhaps all the Daily Post's North Wales reporters finish work at 5pm.
Title: Daily Post
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 15, 2012, 07:43:12 AM
The story is in today's Daily Post.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on March 29, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
I see there's another fake letter from an Oscar Roberts of Deganwy in the NWWN today. It's an obvious pop at a local businessman and it's about time the NWWN checked the writer's identity a little more closely before publishing letters.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 29, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
Trinity Mirror reshuffles editors at Daily Post, Wales on Sunday and Wales Online

Newspaper group Trinity Mirror has announced a reshuffle of editors at its titles in Wales.

The restructure was sparked by the departure of Rob Irvine, editor of the north Wales-based Daily Post, who takes over at the Manchester Evening News.

He is being replaced by Alison Gow, who leaves the editorship of Wales on Sunday and website WalesOnline.

She is succeeded at Wales on Sunday by Simon Farrington, and Ceri Gould is promoted to editor of WalesOnline.

Steve Anderson Dixon, managing director of Trinity Mirror North West and Wales, said: "It gives me great pleasure to announce these appointments today. "Alison, Simon and Ceri come with a solid pedigree in the Welsh media and will bring their invaluable insight, experience and journalistic judgement to their new roles.

"I wish them all the very best in their new positions."

Pembrokeshire-born Ms Gow, a former deputy editor of the Liverpool Daily Post, said she was delighted to be joining the Daily Post.

Trinity Mirror is one of the UK's largest newspaper publishers, with five national and more than 130 regional newspapers, including the Western Mail.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 26, 2012, 08:35:49 AM
Steve Anderson Dixon has so inspired me with his words that I have decided I will buy today's copy and see what is new and old!    :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on April 26, 2012, 06:13:38 PM
Youe verdict iswhat,Yorkie.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on April 27, 2012, 05:21:17 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!    ???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 03, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
The front page of today's NWWN was a perfect opportunity to promote the 2012 Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza.

Instead, there is a full page about an internal dispute at Conwy United football club.  :o

.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on May 03, 2012, 08:24:31 AM
I suppose the importance depends on whether you're a football supporter or an Extravaganza supporter!      >>>

Must confess I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in Football, so I know what I would have liked to see on the front page - !   $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on May 26, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Trinity Mirror Chairman, Sir Ian Gibson announced he is stepping down on Monday ahead of the planned date of August.   Apparently this could hurry on the departure of the Chief Exec Sly Bailey who is due to quit at the end of this year.



Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on May 31, 2012, 10:29:12 PM
I have been told tonight that the front page storey is slightly wrong,apparently they are having a base in builders st and not sending all drivers to Bangor.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2012, 08:14:08 AM
I'm struggling to see how anyone thought this article deserved to be in the NWWN? What next..an article about how a local nutter believes aliens are living inside the Great Orme and are plotting to take over the Town Council?  :o &shake&

Old Colwyn Mayan prophecies
Jun 14 2012 by Richard Evans, North Wales Weekly News

AN OLD Colwyn man believes ancient Mayan prophecies for 2012 will see the world changed forever over the remaining part of the year.

Malcolm Yates, of Llawr Pentre, believes he has been placed on the earth to help people come to terms with a spiritual transition to what he describes as a higher frequency of existence.

Malcolm, 53, believes more highly evolved human extraterrestrials from another planet within our galaxy are about to intervene on Earth.

The retail manager, who works in Llandudno Junction, says corrupt leaders, governments and organisations will be removed from power as part of the takedown and that a New Age will begin where humans will enjoy a higher level of understanding of the workings of the universe.

Malcolm is one of many believers who say a new society, economy and even climate will follow the revolution – contrary to other interpretations of the Mayan calendar which suggest the world will end in December 2012.

Malcolm explained: “This is not a doom and gloom scenario, the darkness, falseness and negativity on the planet is going to be highlighted by the light of the universe.

“There will be a divine intervention as part of this takedown of the people who run the planet, the Dark Cabal. They are a covert elite group that work within the hierarchies and institutions on our planet. These are the people who run the media, the governments, the pharmaceutical companies and the arms dealers. They’ll be removed.

“When these events materialise people are going to be fearful, it’s going to be shocking to find half the US government has been arrested, as well as those in the security and intelligence agencies and the legal justice system.”

Malcolm’s beliefs are contrary to the 2012 Phenomenon which sees some interpretations of the ancient Mayan calendar prophesying an apocalypse, commonly predicted for Friday, December 21.

However, Malcolm believes that instead the prophecies predict a new dawn of existence for the world as we know it.
“The end of the world is just a misrepresentation of the Mayan calendar, we are at the end of a planetary cycle. This is a long prophesied comment of a golden age for humanity, we are going to see incredible technologies and free energy, ending oil monopolies,” he claims.

“We are being aided by extraterrestrials from other solar systems who are very spiritually and technologically advanced. They are already here to assist us, they will revitalise our planet and educate us in the ‘oneness’ of the universe.

“I 100% believe it. Five years ago I was a sceptic but this is not conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact. I want people to know change is coming and it’s good news, it’s already happening.

“In the coming months people are going to see changes, it’s going to be all over the TV. You are going to see members of the US Congress arrested and the people running the planet brought to justice. And it’s going to frighten people.

“Already you can’t turn on the TV without seeing corruption in the media.”

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/06/14/old-colwyn-mayan-prophecies-55243-31175828/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/06/14/old-colwyn-mayan-prophecies-55243-31175828/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on June 15, 2012, 04:42:43 PM
Well Wrex was placed on this town to hunt and hound our town and county councillors ,to force the idiots into listening to the electrate,we need xmas lights,nice lawns and flower beds(weeded),a beach not covered in stones and shells. ps where is our Alice Bandstand.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2012, 06:09:20 PM
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Well Wrex was placed on this town to hunt and hound our town and county councillors ,to force the idiots into listening to the electrate,we need xmas lights,nice lawns and flower beds(weeded),a beach not covered in stones and shells. ps where is our Alice Bandstand.
Alice bandstand is appearing in a couple of weeks, I'm told. Unfortunately, I believe it will be too small to house the entire town band and there is no power supply for PA equipment, so it's tricky to see how much use it will get...
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bellringer on June 28, 2012, 03:37:19 PM
Today's letters' page - is there really an "Oscar Roberts" in Llandudno?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on June 28, 2012, 04:27:14 PM
No letter is published without a supporting address.
On the subject of the bandstand, it was never intended for the town band, it is for school and childrens' groups to use if they wish to do so.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Quiggs on June 28, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Do they teach musical instruments in schools these days ?   ???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
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Today's letters' page - is there really an "Oscar Roberts" in Llandudno?
No, it's obviously fake - this is the third time at least, why does the editor allow it?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on June 28, 2012, 06:48:09 PM
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Today's letters' page - is there really an "Oscar Roberts" in Llandudno?
No, it's obviously fake - this is the third time at least, why does the editor allow it?

Providing they have an address the paper is happy.   They say it is impossible to check each and every name although the writer could use the anonymous tag providing a name and address is given.  :twoface:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2012, 09:00:36 PM
Maybe they should ask for a landline phone number and give them a ring. Publishing letters without having proof of identity seems rather foolish and could potentially lead to a lot of trouble.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: FatAndy on July 17, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
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Do they teach musical instruments in schools these days ?   ???

Deganwy Primary are very big on music teaching.  We had the, erm, pleasure of attending the end of concert last week (oldest daughter was part of the flute ensemble) and there were kids there playing flutes, clarinets, guitars, bass, drums, xylophone, the harp and not forgetting the Year 3 recorder ensemble.  Well at least I'll never forget it, most nights since the concert I've found myself waking in the dead of night in a cold sweat :o.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 03, 2012, 11:50:47 AM
I just phoned the NWWN in Llandudno Junction to try and find out if they are closed for lunch as I wanted to call over and spend some money with them.

I was informed they are closed all day today because their two members of staff are both off.  &shake&

I wonder if the Pioneer office in Colwyn Bay is open this afternoon.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2012, 11:54:20 AM
The financial report today is that Trinity Mirror Group have had yet another downturn.  Will the NWWN survive?    :o
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bellringer on September 19, 2012, 06:20:47 PM
Two female police officers killed in Greater Manchester yesterday and the Daily Post manage to report it on PAGE 17 of today's edition --- YES PAGE 17.

I realise Greater Manchester is not in the North Wales area but PAGE 17 ???
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 26, 2012, 10:33:04 AM
No doubt the Developer of the Deganwy Castle Hotel will remember to eventually mention on their website details of the boutique hotel, bar/restaurant with 16 car parking spaces, that was mentioned in the NWWN last March, as well as the manager’s accommodation

Prospective apartment purchasers may need to be aware of this before committing to the Early Bird Incentive that is currently available.

After all the NWWN did inform us this was to be boutique hotel, bar with apartments.   

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/03/15/planning-given-to-transform-deganwy-castle-hotel-55243-30534906/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/03/15/planning-given-to-transform-deganwy-castle-hotel-55243-30534906/)

http://www.coastal-homes.net/index.php (http://www.coastal-homes.net/index.php)

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on October 26, 2012, 01:46:01 PM
Yes, it should definitely be mentioned on the website. Having said that, I'd be quite pleased to have a bar & restaurant closeby.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 27, 2012, 09:47:25 AM
I think we all would, DaveR.

You see the Specification on the website states: “There is allocated parking for each apartment.”

However, the NWWN report states: “The existing car parking areas to the front of the property will provide 20 spaces for the apartments and 16 spaces for the hotel and bar, with three disabled spaces”

That makes sense but a simple calculation for 26 apartments suggests there will only be 10 parking places left for a 9 bed boutique hotel, bar and restaurant.

If one assumes the Hotel Manager living onsite will require a parking place then when the hotel is fully occupied there does not seem to be any car parking spaces left for customers of the new bar and restaurant, except for 3 disabled customers.

As we both recognise there is no mention of the bar and restaurant on the Developer’s website then that may become a concern in due course.

On the other hand, it may just be a typographical error by the NWWN but, in the circumstances, I feel the NWWN do need to clarify this anomaly for its readers.


Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2012, 09:21:58 AM
There was a discussion on Twitter about the Weekly News, so I thought I would see how the circulation is holding up:

2009 - 15,124
2012 - 12,247

http://www.nsdatabase.co.uk/newspaperdetail.cfm?paperid=751 (http://www.nsdatabase.co.uk/newspaperdetail.cfm?paperid=751)

I was mooting the idea of a radical overhaul, reducing cover price to 20p. The i paper is only 20p and I buy it without even thinking. I reckon you could double or treble the NWWN circulation (thus increasing the value of the ads sold in the paper) by doing that.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on December 05, 2012, 04:37:44 PM
    David, I reckon you are correct in suggesting the circulation would treble.  I'm not sure what the small adds cost, or even are they free? But you and I obviously dont see eye to eye with NWWN management. Only last week they increased the cover price Mike
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 20, 2012, 07:56:19 PM
For the second time this year, the NWWN has devoted a sizeable chunk of space to a nutter from Old Colwyn blathering on about the end of the world. How is this news in any way? If I want to listen to nutters, I'll read the Lunar Landings thread.  :laugh:

Old Colwyn man believes Mayan prophecies

Dec 20 2012 by Richard Evans, North Wales Weekly News


WILL the world really end on Friday?

Probably not, according to Malcolm Yates of Old Colwyn, despite the fact he subscribes to the Mayan prophecy about December 21, 2012.

Malcolm, 54, says extraterrestrials will gradually reveal themselves to us before completely revolutionising our way of life including how we use energy, our governments, economies and healthcare.

Malcolm, a Llandudno Junction retail manager, believes he has been placed on Earth to help people come to terms with a spiritual transition to what he describes as a higher frequency of existence.

He says corrupt leaders, governments and organisations will be removed from power in the New Age, which begins tomorrow, in which we will enjoy a new climate and a closer link to our creator.

But he stressed there will be no apocalyptic event, and says end of the world predictions relating to the Mayan calendar are misinterpretations.

“We are leaving the age of Pisces and going into the age of Aquarius. We get a galactic line-up transition to what is essentially a new time, but it’s not going to be instantaneous,” he said.

“It is not the end of the world, but the end of one chapter and the beginning of another.

“It won’t be Independence Day. It will be a pivotal moment which will act as a catalyst for the changes to come.

“The arrival of extraterrestrials is imminent. We will see intergalactic extraterrestrial human beings on the planet. It will change everything.

“I’ve seen evidence of channelled communication with these beings, which has been going on since the 1960s, initially through Morse code.

“Extraterrestrials have been visiting with spacecraft, interplanetary light-ships that have the ability to cloak themselves.

“There are thousands of UFO reports, and they have certainly escalated during the past 10 years, but that is not information that has been filtered through to the mainstream media, this is highly classified information. The government does not want us to know we’re not alone.

He added: “The end of the world is just a misrepresentation of the Mayan calendar, we are at the end of a planetary cycle.

“This is a long prophesied comment of a golden age for humanity. We are going to see incredible technologies and free energy, ending oil monopolies,” he claims.

“We are being aided by extraterrestrials from other solar systems who are very spiritually and technologically advanced. They are already here to assist us, they will revitalise our planet and educate us in the ‘oneness’ of the universe.”
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Blongb on December 20, 2012, 08:25:07 PM
Has anyone organised a Party to celebrate the end of the world on the 22nd?  ZXZ  Z**  ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 20, 2012, 08:41:03 PM
Why didn't they have the end of the world earlier in December, would have saved us having to write all the flipping Xmas cards!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on December 20, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
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Has anyone organised a Party to celebrate the end of the world on the 22nd?  ZXZ  Z**  ZXZ

Unlikely to be anyone there if it all ends on the 21st!  But if we do survive the event, I'll pop along.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Dwyforite on December 20, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
i have cancelled the milk
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on December 20, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
Nice letter in the paper today moaning about the xmas lights,im glad im not the only one.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on December 20, 2012, 09:43:32 PM
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Nice letter in the paper today moaning about the xmas lights,im glad im not the only one.


I changed my name just to write it!  Hope I haven't offended anyone named Gareth!    ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 20, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
 Quote, ''If I want to listen to nutters, I'll read the Lunar Landings thread''.  :laugh:

You are right there Dave,  there are some very eccentric people on there.  It is indeed most irrational to not consider both sides of a debate and scoff at those who have an open mind
But I don't think Ian and the others will appreciate you labelling them nutters!

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 20, 2012, 11:21:27 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on December 21, 2012, 07:36:12 AM
Sorry Yorkie,you have to be bald.hansome and full of bulls..t to qualify.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 21, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
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It is indeed most irrational to not consider both sides of a debate and scoff at those who have an open mind
I assume that you must therefore consider the guy from Old Colwyn to have a valid argument, then, when he says 'extraterrestrials will gradually reveal themselves to us before completely revolutionising our way of life including how we use energy, our governments, economies and healthcare.'

As Terry Pratchett said, “The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.”


 :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 21, 2012, 08:47:55 AM
But we all started with open minds, filled later by schools, college and the university of life, when more information comes along then surely it is reasonable to consider it!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 21, 2012, 09:49:35 AM
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It is indeed most irrational to not consider both sides of a debate and scoff at those who have an open mind
I assume that you must therefore consider the guy from Old Colwyn to have a valid argument, then, when he says 'extraterrestrials will gradually reveal themselves to us before completely revolutionising our way of life including how we use energy, our governments, economies and healthcare.'

As Terry Pratchett said, “The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.”

No Dave, I don't... but I don't believe he is wrong to THINK IT!


 :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 21, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
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It is indeed most irrational to not consider both sides of a debate and scoff at those who have an open mind
I assume that you must therefore consider the guy from Old Colwyn to have a valid argument, then, when he says 'extraterrestrials will gradually reveal themselves to us before completely revolutionising our way of life including how we use energy, our governments, economies and healthcare.'

As Terry Pratchett said, “The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.”

No Dave, I don't... but I don't believe he is wrong to THINK IT!


 :laugh:
He's not wrong to think it, just stupid. Just like the members of the Westboro Baptist Church, who are trying to picket the funerals of the recent school shootings in order to celebrate God's work. They apparently believe the shootings were a punishment from God as a result of Connecticut legalising same sex marriages.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100195000/the-hideous-westboro-baptist-church-are-picketing-the-newtown-funerals-their-perverse-logic-is-beyond-satire/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100195000/the-hideous-westboro-baptist-church-are-picketing-the-newtown-funerals-their-perverse-logic-is-beyond-satire/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 21, 2012, 11:38:28 AM
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But we all started with open minds, filled later by schools, college and the university of life, when more information comes along then surely it is reasonable to consider it!
It helps to have the ability to filter out obvious nonsense, though.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 21, 2012, 12:03:39 PM
Very true, which is why we did the Xmas cards without worrying about the world ending!  And look the world has not ended, I'll double check that on the 1 o'clock news on BBC1  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 21, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
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But we all started with open minds, filled later by schools, college and the university of life, when more information comes along then surely it is reasonable to consider it!
It helps to have the ability to filter out obvious nonsense, though.  ZXZ

If that were to happen, works such as Harry Potter would never have been written.

By the way, shouldn't those baptist idiots be on the scum thread?   $angry$ $angry$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 08:36:24 AM
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But we all started with open minds, filled later by schools, college and the university of life, when more information comes along then surely it is reasonable to consider it!
It helps to have the ability to filter out obvious nonsense, though.  ZXZ

If that were to happen, works such as Harry Potter would never have been written.

By the way, shouldn't those baptist idiots be on the scum thread?   $angry$ $angry$
Idont think J K Rowling presented Harry Potter as anything other than a work of fiction, mate?!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 22, 2012, 05:34:52 PM
But that is my point.

If everyone was purely fact-based and pragmatic, then you would stifle imagination, and those great works of fiction would never get written.

All those great episodes of Star Trek, never written??  Unthinkable.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 22, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
I though Star Trek was a documentary, are you saying that it was a hoax!  :)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on December 22, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
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If everyone was purely fact-based and pragmatic, then you would stifle imagination, and those great works of fiction would never get written.

Indeed. Although the inability to distinguish between reality and fiction can be a symptom of illness...
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 05:44:22 PM
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But that is my point.

If everyone was purely fact-based and pragmatic, then you would stifle imagination, and those great works of fiction would never get written.

All those great episodes of Star Trek, never written??  Unthinkable.
No-one's objecting to that. However, presenting fiction as facts* is hardly likely to help to win a discussion.

* - "Quite a significant number of NASA officials have come out over the years, and stated that all might not have been as it seemed on several Apollo missions.  However, due to an equally high number of convenient 'car accidents' ... none of those people survived long enough to give much detail"
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 22, 2012, 05:48:21 PM
Yeah, Dave, just watch the documentary like most other contributors to this thread did.

It would save us both a lot of time.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on December 22, 2012, 05:53:33 PM
you have all lost me on this one aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 22, 2012, 05:59:04 PM
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you have all lost me on this one aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sorry Wrex, but Dave has brought the Lunar Landings discussion onto this thread.
We must discipline him immediately.   $smack$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 06:20:05 PM
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Yeah, Dave, just watch the documentary like most other contributors to this thread did.

It would save us both a lot of time.
So, does something being said in a documentary automatically make it true, then?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
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Sorry Wrex, but Dave has brought the Lunar Landings discussion onto this thread.
We must discipline him immediately.   $smack$
Keep your fantasies to yourself.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 22, 2012, 06:28:47 PM
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Yeah, Dave, just watch the documentary like most other contributors to this thread did.

It would save us both a lot of time.
So, does something being said in a documentary automatically make it true, then?

No, not at all.... but it just makes for more meaningful debate, as at the moment those of us who have seen it, have the advantage of you.
It would be helpful for you to see it, in order for you to have some idea what you are talking about .  :laugh: :laugh: $lol$ $lol$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
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Yeah, Dave, just watch the documentary like most other contributors to this thread did.

It would save us both a lot of time.
So, does something being said in a documentary automatically make it true, then?

No, not at all.... but it just makes for more meaningful debate, as at the moment those of us who have seen it, have the advantage of you.
It would be helpful for you to see it, in order for you to have some idea what you are talking about .  :laugh: :laugh: $lol$ $lol$
But the documentary is just someone else's opinion, why is it more valid than yours or mine? All I'm asking is for some verifiable (i.e, from a reputable news source) evidence to support the assertion that a considerable number of NASA scientists died in car crashes after the Moon landings took place. I tried a search on 'nasa moon landings scientists car crash' and nothing comes up? Help me out here....  ;)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SDQ on December 22, 2012, 06:47:24 PM
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Yeah, Dave, just watch the documentary like most other contributors to this thread did.

It would save us both a lot of time.
So, does something being said in a documentary automatically make it true, then?

No, not at all.... but it just makes for more meaningful debate, as at the moment those of us who have seen it, have the advantage of you.
It would be helpful for you to see it, in order for you to have some idea what you are talking about .  :laugh: :laugh: $lol$ $lol$


That is part of the problem though, you're basing everything on this one documentary so you're 'advantage' is biased to that theory. I've watched a number of documentaries on the subject and between them all the points raised by the conspiracy theorists have been answered including the Van Allen belt which seems to be the stumbling block that gets mentioned the most, for that reason I'm 100% certain the lunar landings took place. I've also visited the Kennedy Space Centre a number of times and seen the various rockets (including the awesome Saturn V) they used during the space race from the 50's & 60's.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on December 22, 2012, 07:35:22 PM
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It would be helpful for you to see it, in order for you to have some idea what you are talking about .

I watched it - twice, because I had trouble believing what I heard the first time.  None of the documentary 'points' bears scrutiny.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on December 22, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
I'm trying to be helpful Dave, watch the documentary.... (any one of three that I believe were made)  I've seen two.

The part about the mysterious deaths of numerous NASA people was a compelling section.

However, please remember that I opened this debate from an 'undecided' standpoint... which is where I remain.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on December 23, 2012, 08:53:23 AM
The biggest asset for conspiracists is that you cannot prove a negative, which is exactly why conspiracy theories abound. No amount of evidence will ever convince them, because they'll always resort to saying that 'they' - usually reputable sources and those in authority - can't be believed.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
It's about time some of these papers started losing proof readers.  In today's Pioneer there is an article about the passing of John Macdonald and his name is changed from John to David in the latter part of the piece.   Not by any means the only error one can find nowadays, but in this case it s not funny.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on January 09, 2013, 03:02:40 PM
   In your first sentence you state "loosing" Did you mean that, or did you mean to write "using"? In which case might I suggest you use a proof reader Mike
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Tosh on January 09, 2013, 03:20:31 PM
I think Yorkie was correct in saying losing, ie, they need to lose them because they aren't using them.
Losing is as in not winning, whereas loosing is as in easing.
But there again he might have meant "using" because the mistakes are there unedited.
I bet Ian could enlighten us on this with one of his lovely diatribes.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2013, 05:29:38 PM
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   In your first sentence you state "loosing" Did you mean that, or did you mean to write "using"? In which case might I suggest you use a proof reader Mike

Mike, I only wish I had the time to point out all your own spelling and grammatical errors, and also those of others who I will not name.   I am now mainly using my iPad which, unfortunately, will forward project a word, and it is sometimes incorrect.  These incorrect words can often go unnoticed when composing.   But then - that's life!   ZXZ.   None of us is ( or should that be are) perfect.  :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: poppy on January 09, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
Has any else noticed the Weekly News website has been hijacked by something called Abakhan?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SDQ on January 09, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
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   In your first sentence you state "loosing" Did you mean that, or did you mean to write "using"? In which case might I suggest you use a proof reader Mike

Mike, I only wish I had the time to point out all your own spelling and grammatical errors, and also those of others who I will not name.   I am now mainly using my iPad which, unfortunately, will forward project a word, and it is sometimes incorrect.  These incorrect words can often go unnoticed when composing.   But then - that's life!   ZXZ.   None of us is ( or should that be are) perfect.  :D


It's called Autocorrect and can cause some funny but ambarrassing text messages.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-25-funniest-autocorrects-of-2012 (http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-25-funniest-autocorrects-of-2012)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 09, 2013, 07:55:04 PM
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It's called Autocorrect and can cause some funny but ambarrassing text messages.


 (http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-25-funniest-autocorrects-of-2012)

It is absolutely hilarious - I regard myself as a rather good and accurate typist.  When I first got the iPad I did not watch to see what I had typed but looked more at the on screen keyboard which I was not used to.  I sent out plenty of stuff by e-mail and also to this Forum that was less than perfect.  Some are so ridiculous that maybe the facility should be renamed Auto-cockup.    :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on January 12, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
Sadly Yorkie proof readers are no longer employed on many newspapers.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on January 12, 2013, 03:56:13 PM
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None of us is ( or should that be are) perfect.  :D

Right first time;  should be "is".
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2013, 04:33:49 PM
Ian's correct. When we mean "not a single one", the verb is singular rather than plural. ;)  :P  $yes$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Barbiroli on January 12, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
I heard today that the Weekly News and Daily Post are yet again going up 5p next week :rage:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 12, 2013, 06:22:03 PM
All the increases have been well above inflation, Trinity Mirror must think we are a bottomless pit of money.   Enuff is enuff for me.   It is just not worth the money, doesn't even have a decent crossword. 
 >>>
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on January 12, 2013, 07:03:34 PM
 I know Barbiroli says he/she has only heard it. But I find this unbelievable. It is only around four weeks ago from the last increase on both papers. If it comes true, it only means one thing. The publishers thought (correctly) that a price increase of 10p in one wack would be too much for their readers, so they thought we will split into two 5p increases, the silly devils will never notice that. Mike
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Tosh on January 12, 2013, 07:33:22 PM
You can read most of the Post online.
Why pay?
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2013, 08:37:05 PM
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You can read most of the Post online.
Why pay?
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/)
...which has always been a very good point. Unlike national newspapers, which have very similar content, local newspapers like the NWWN have unique content that the viewer will often not find elsewhere. Yet, full stories are being given away for nothing! Advertising revenue is received, certainly, but does it make up for the decline in circulation caused by online readership - I doubt it! The NWWN should just have the first paragraph of the story free online and charge a subscription to view the rest.  A month's subscription need only be a couple of quid. In addition, the paper's entire archive of news stories should be available online, on a 'pay per edition' basis, so that the user gets a PDF of an entire NWWN edition on a particular date.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on January 13, 2013, 08:33:47 AM
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The NWWN should just have the first paragraph of the story free online and charge a subscription to view the rest.  In addition, the paper's entire archive of news stories should be available online, on a 'pay per edition' basis, so that the user gets a PDF of an entire NWWN edition on a particular date.

Since the advent of the internet this question has vexed all newspaper proprietors with Murdock's stable being the only group to take the plunge and charge.  News gathering is an extremely expensive business; the BBC reckons the News department accounts for a massive chunk of its expenditure.  Hardly surprising, given that they employ over 800 journos and own over 40 international news bureaux.  We pay for that through our licence fees, and for Sky's news through subscription. ITV has been savagely hacking away at its news activities for several years and many newspapers find it hard to make a profit.  Yet we still expect to read the news for free. I agree with Dave, in that it might be a good idea for them to try and charge for internet versions. But I suspect that - long term - there probably isn't much future in local publishing, and that's a real shame.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
One is able to subscribe to certain Papers and Magazines already.  The facility just needs extending.  ZXZ
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on January 13, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
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All the increases have been well above inflation, Trinity Mirror must think we are a bottomless pit of money.   Enuff is enuff for me.   It is just not worth the money, doesn't even have a decent crossword. 
 >>>

More of a pamphlet than a newspaper-- I'll stick to my Saturday Telegraph crossword. Keeps me busy for an hour or two.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Sara on January 13, 2013, 04:27:33 PM
North Wales Weekly News was 85p when I bought it on Thursday, so it has already gone up.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 17, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
Today, 17th. January 2013 we did not buy the North Wales Weekly News, and have vowed never to buy it again!

 :P
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 17, 2013, 11:24:10 AM
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Today, 17th. January 2013 we did not buy the North Wales Weekly News, and have vowed never to buy it again!
Why?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 17, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
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Today, 17th. January 2013 we did not buy the North Wales Weekly News, and have vowed never to buy it again!
Why?

Because it does not represent value for money.  It is 80% adverts or public announcements.   Most news is available elsewhere with the Daily Post (Judith writes for both).  Most news available almost in real time via Twitter, on other media or the Internet.  The helicopter crash for example.   We will save £50 a year increasing!

We have been readers for over 40 years so have persevered from the days that it was in the hands of the Jones's.

Why do you continue to buy it?  I am presuming from your question that you do.
 :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 17, 2013, 01:07:10 PM
I buy it because I think its important to support a local independent press. The NWWN's absentee owners are not helping the cause, certainly, but we can only hope that a return to local ownership and a more dynamic management style will follow at some point.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on January 17, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
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I buy it because I think its important to support a local independent press. The NWWN's absentee owners are not helping the cause, certainly, but we can only hope that a return to local ownership and a more dynamic management style will follow at some point.

Bring back Clive! 
 $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 31, 2013, 12:38:50 PM
I see there's an Interview with our very own Mike Ormegolf in the NWWN this week.  $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on January 31, 2013, 01:19:43 PM
Very good it is too.  ;D
Congrats. Mike.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bellringer on January 31, 2013, 07:31:18 PM
Yes and we all know how old you are Mike.
Why do papers always have to quote a person's age?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on January 31, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
  Thanks everyone for your congrats. They had to print my age. They knew that everyone looking at the photo would think "he is too young to have done all that."  (I wish) LOL Mike
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on February 01, 2013, 09:01:23 AM
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  Thanks everyone for your congrats. They had to print my age. They knew that everyone looking at the photo would think "he is too young to have done all that."  (I wish) LOL Mike

I've stopped buying the NWWN so missed the article.  Is it worth me investing 85p to read about your exploits, or would I be better to remain ignorant?    :D
 :golf: :golf: :golf: :golf:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on February 01, 2013, 10:04:13 AM
You can read it on-line Yorkie-- no pic, but a good article.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2013/01/31/he-s-not-a-golfer-but-runs-a-golf-course-on-llandudno-s-great-orme-55243-32713314/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2013/01/31/he-s-not-a-golfer-but-runs-a-golf-course-on-llandudno-s-great-orme-55243-32713314/)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 01, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
Thanks for the link Nemesis, Mike, a great article, good on you!  $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on February 01, 2013, 10:33:06 AM
Lovely potted history of Mike and certainly worth all of 85p, but as I know what he looks like, and having now read the article (thanks to Nemesis), there is no need for me to line the pockets of Trinity Mirror and I am still almost £1 better off!  Oh! Joyous day!    :D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Craigydonian on February 01, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
I hope Mike found the article accurate. We are required to ask a person's age by our superiors but of course they have a perfect right not to give it if they don't wish too.
I'm pleased you read it Yorkie, you could continue to read the Weekly News on line if you so wished and so help to support local jobs. Our editorial team is entirely from North Wales and most of them live within Conwy county!
PS It was a pleasure to interview Mike. He's a gentleman of the old school, with a fascinating life story. He should write a book.   
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Hugo on February 01, 2013, 02:54:58 PM
I really enjoyed reading the article and had a few laughs with Mike on the Golf Course when he's been telling me stories about characters and events from the past.    Nice one Mike    $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: martin on February 01, 2013, 04:42:55 PM
Really enjoyed reading the article, what an interesting life and a good variety of jobs, carry on putting! $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: white rabbit on February 01, 2013, 07:07:35 PM
Very much enjoyed the article and what an interesting life you have lead and still continue to do so!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on February 01, 2013, 09:25:03 PM
 Ive just read all your comments and thanks very much.
 But ---- Ive just had a big shock. Craigydonian. Thanks for your post, but you write "we are required etc".
 So that means only one thing, which I would never in a thousand years believed.

 I have always found Craigydonian opinions tended to annoy me, and I dont remember what it was about, but it was around 4 or 5 months ago that I sent a reply which, for me, was a bit strong. I never heard anything else.

   How wrong could I be.    Mike
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 05, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
I had a flick through the Daily Post yesterday and saw that there's a full page devoted to the thoughts of Denise Welch every week. If I put the amazement that she could come up with enough thoughts to fill a full page aside, I was wondering to myself what relevance she has to North Wales? The answer is, of course, none. Just a cheap way of filling the paper after yet more cutbacks.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on April 05, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
   I think what I write bears out Dave's comments. I buy the Post every day, and I read it right through, at least all the bits that have the faintest interest to me---and quite a lot that haven't.
  I never even SAW this ladies double page. Who is she, by the way?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 06, 2013, 12:02:23 AM
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   I think what I write bears out Dave's comments. I buy the Post every day, and I read it right through, at least all the bits that have the faintest interest to me---and quite a lot that haven't.
  I never even SAW this ladies double page. Who is she, by the way?

A well worn old slapper, off Coronation Street many years ago, and more recently Loose Women chat show ITV.

She was married to Tim Healy, (the Geordie actor from Auf Weidersehen Pet)

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2013, 09:11:14 AM
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'A well worn old slapper'
Such a charmer!  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on April 06, 2013, 09:18:20 PM
   Who?  Fester or the slapper?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 06, 2013, 10:27:32 PM
 _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 07, 2013, 09:38:14 PM
I see that the NWWN has reported that it was a bum Easter for businesses in Llandudno.

It must be true, because everything that you read in the paper is true isn't it?

However, I know of know one who had a successful Easter trading period.
In fact everyone I know describes the last ten days or so as ranging from 'disappointing' to 'disastrous'

One trader who was contacted by the NWWN for feedback, mistakenly saw this as an opportunity to 'bull up'' his own business. I think he may have shot himself in the foot, as the real story is far from successful.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on April 08, 2013, 10:29:03 AM
Fester--re the article in the NWWN. If you read the adverts in the papers you will see how much hotels who rely on coaching are charging per holiday ,which includes usually 1/2 board, trips and entertainment.
This is probably why alot of hotels are busy, whilst others aren't. People tend to pick something which is what we call' VFM' ( value for money).
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on April 08, 2013, 10:47:18 PM
  Don't forget that the hotels and the coach companies are often, with the really big ones, always one and the same people. Maybe a different company name, but dig down and you will find they are the same. I am sure you don't need examples, but LLandudnos front has a few.
  Even if the coach is an outsider contracted in, it still doesn't mean that there is not a financial connection.
  Going back to my coach driving days I always remember a passenger, a professional complainer, writing a very long letter of complaint about everything on her holiday, purchased from Alfa. I was driving an outside coach companies vehicle. She gave it everything, about me, the coach, this that and the other.Then she went on about the hotel, the food, the service etc. Owned by LeisureplexLtd.
  Unfortunately for her she had'nt realised (how could she) that Alpha and Leisureplex were to all intents and purposes one and the same.  Mike
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on April 09, 2013, 08:40:56 AM
Exactly Mike, quite alot of the seafront hotels are owned and operated by the big companies. Some have their owned named coaches, others don't. Knowing how much some of the hotels are allocated per person for food, heating and wages etc It must be like juggling jelly !
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2013, 08:43:40 AM
Margins must be wafer thin for some of these hotels that specialise in coach trips. Little surprise there's not much money available for reinvestment.

In other news, the Belle Vue Hotel has been sold and is reopening shortly.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Nemesis on April 09, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Good news about the Belle Vue.

This is just what I mean Dave, margins were thin enough in the past and the cost of food has risen so much it must be a constant battle to provide acceptable meals in today's current climate
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Blongb on April 11, 2013, 05:46:34 PM
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In other news, the Belle Vue Hotel has been sold and is reopening shortly.

The Belle View has not been sold Dave, it's being run by a tenant. I wish him luck but shan't be holding my breath.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
In what seems a rather ominous move, the NWWN website has disappeared and all visitors are being redirected to the Daily Post website:
www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk)

Some tweets from NWWN in response to questions:

The old Weekly News site has been swallowed up by Daily Post's altho WN stories will still populate DP site

The Weekly News is going nowhere as far as I know but truth is we're struggling terribly. Thanx for support

 :(
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Linda on April 29, 2013, 09:40:07 PM
I sincerely hope the North Wales Weekly News remains safe and sound in North Wales. Its a life line to so many. Always liked the paper for local stuff for sale Houses,cars etc and news. Love it with my Thursday morning coffee if I get time. $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on April 30, 2013, 12:41:37 AM
The NWWN is about as safe as Hoosons, Fat Cat........... and The Pier!

Do not underestimate the economic meltdown the UK is now facing.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on April 30, 2013, 07:23:33 AM
I'm not sure this has much to do with the current economic situation. The Newspaper industry has been struggling for years, and much longer than our current economic woes. They don't help, of course, but in reality news has never been more available for free and it's proved difficult for the industry to respond to that, although the first paywall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paywall) was introduced in 1997. The Times charges for online access, and that may spread; many charge for iPad access already, and the big news media are watching the Times' model to see how it fares.

In the USA they've been studying, closely, the effectiveness of online subscription models and it seems that for the bigger companies, anyway, a mixed print and digital offering (http://www.naa.org/Trends-and-Numbers/Newspaper-Revenue/Newspaper-Media-Industry-Revenue-Profile-2012.aspx) may be a way forward, with moderate to significant growth being seen for businesses that are trying it.

The biggest problem appears to be online advertising. Once viewed as the holy grail of a 'free' internet the online market seems to have become saturated, possibly because so many companies have been using its revenue as a business model. More worryingly, however, it's estimated that 90% of the advertising revenue in print (http://paidcontent.org/2007/10/13/419-as-online-ad-revenue-remains-concentrated-in-few-hands-frustration-buil/) is in the hands of the nationals, which leaves comparatively little for the regional media. Both the Sun and the Telegraph plan to introduce hard paywalls for their online content but even the Times - one of the earlier adopters - has failed to prove conclusively the case for charging. Regional newspapers, such as the NWWN, are in an even more parlous state.  Their circulation has been falling for years, as has that of the Daily Post, but I think it will be a shame if they both go under.

I don't think there are any quick fixes, either, otherwise they'd probably have been tried, although the possibility of forming charitable trusts to run them in similar ways to the Guardian and Observer might be viable. But any charity would have to be able to find the funds to buy them in the first instance.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 09:22:09 AM
Unfortunately, the Guardian's model isn't really viable either, with a £44m loss last year and a 10% decline in sales. Curiously, the 20p 'i' newspaper reported a 10% increase in sales over the same period, maybe all the Guardian readers defected to the cheaper paper?   :twoface:

I feel the 'i' model is the one to follow for the NWWN. Drop the price to 20p, boost the content and go all out for circulation in order to make advertising in it essential for any local business. The website should provide teaser content (only first paragraph of each story), with the user having to pay to read full stories either online or in print form.

After all, what's the alternative...a steady decline towards closure?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/apr/12/independent-i-sales (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/apr/12/independent-i-sales)

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on April 30, 2013, 09:38:24 PM
   I love the Post and NWWN so it pains me to write this. However I'm going to carry on.

  Before I mention the price of these two papers, which have had practically weekly increases recently, I have considered differing labour costs, distribution costs, lack of broadband, exchange rates etc etc.

  But ----- Post 55p NWWN 85p

  I have recently been in Goa. Daily papers, every day available everywhere from around 7 a.m., at least three printed in English and more in Hindu, size around halfway between todays red tops and the traditional size, does the Guardian still come in that size? Around 16-20 pages, 2 pages small adds which cost literally peanuts, and a fair amount of advertising, but no more than in Post and NWWN. The British news is slightly delayed, football for example, evening before matches won't make it but a midday kick off will be reported next day.
  Cost 2 or 3 rupees. A rupee is worth slightly more than a penny. So, thats right, 3 pence a copy.
 
  I know the general cost of living in Goa is around a quarter of here, but even so, the difference between 3p and 55p is staggering. Surely one or the other must be wrong.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: ormegolf on April 30, 2013, 09:43:52 PM
   P.S.I might add that very few buy one paper, most buy two or three. Don't ask me why (apart from the price) but seeing as they all have the same news I presume they are just given away, Maybe thats the answer, our papers cannot make any money because they have just priced themselves out
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on May 01, 2013, 06:55:15 AM
The broadsheets to seem to be having a tougher time of it, so reducing size to tabloid might be one solution. But Dave's proposal might work.  I suppose the only way is to try it, and there aren't that many alternatives.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2013, 08:54:05 AM
I noticed on Twitter that a local newsagent sold out of the NWWN last week, for the first time in a while. I couldn't help but wonder if the increase in sales has anything to do with the NWWN website disappearing, as it's been my long held theory that giving news away free on their website is killing print sales. Maybe someone has seen sense at last?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 10, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
Or because there were lots of visitors for the Extravaganza?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2013, 09:06:47 AM
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Or because there were lots of visitors for the Extravaganza?
Possibly, but would they be interested in local news?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2013, 09:11:53 AM
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I noticed on Twitter that a local newsagent sold out of the NWWN last week, for the first time in a while. 

Did he sell put again yesterday?

That will be the test.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 10, 2013, 10:34:11 AM
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Or because there were lots of visitors for the Extravaganza?
Possibly, but would they be interested in local news?

When I used to visit I always bought a copy to see what was happening, now I live here we receive the Pioneer for free and the most interesting news appears on here! If the NWWN was a sensible price I would buy it, often wondered why the Pioneer is free and the NWWN is not at a good price (50p?)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on May 10, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
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Or because there were lots of visitors for the Extravaganza?
Possibly, but would they be interested in local news?

When I used to visit I always bought a copy to see what was happening, now I live here we receive the Pioneer for free and the most interesting news appears on here! If the NWWN was a sensible price I would buy it, often wondered why the Pioneer is free and the NWWN is not at a good price (50p?)

Merddin?  What do you mean the most interesting news is on here??

Why, only last week the NWWN ran a big article on some kids who had a made a large montage out of lentils and macaroni at school!   
Plus the court report about a bloke who grew a cannabis plant in Abergele was 'edge of my seat' stuff.   ;) :laugh:

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Yorkie on May 10, 2013, 11:58:37 AM
And the NWWN  had not a word about Buff Orpington!   _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 10, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
My point is proved!   $3towns$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 10, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
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Did he sell out again yesterday?

That will be the test.

I have simply corrected my careless spelling mistake above.

I must learn to checkbefore posting.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2013, 07:57:52 PM
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And the NWWN  had not a word about Buff Orpington!   _))*
:-X  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Tosh on May 10, 2013, 08:19:03 PM
Buff who??????
My, how quickly we forget.   _))*
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: 1_rob_1 on May 10, 2013, 08:47:05 PM
They must have "chickened" out of mentioning him.



 L0L
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Blongb on May 15, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
When I’ve had cause to be interviewed by the NWWN on a variety of subjects over the years, I was invariably miss quoted and miss represented, so much so that I stopped buying and reading it altogether. North Wales has been a much happier place for me as a result.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Cambrian on September 06, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
Catching up on the news, I noticed an article in the NWWN relating to the Victorian Colonnade.  I was always told this was built in the 1930s as unemployment relief.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Hugo on September 06, 2013, 08:34:08 PM
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Catching up on the news, I noticed an article in the NWWN relating to the Victorian Colonnade.  I was always told this was built in the 1930s as unemployment relief.

That has always been my understanding of it too.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2013, 08:34:39 PM
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Catching up on the news, I noticed an article in the NWWN relating to the Victorian Colonnade.  I was always told this was built in the 1930s as unemployment relief.
I always thought it was built about 1935, too.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Hugo on September 06, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
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Catching up on the news, I noticed an article in the NWWN relating to the Victorian Colonnade.  I was always told this was built in the 1930s as unemployment relief.
I always thought it was built about 1935, too.

This 185 yard walkway was designed by G A Humphreys and opened to the public in April 1932 so it's definitely not Victorian.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Trojan on September 07, 2013, 05:02:13 AM
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Catching up on the news, I noticed an article in the NWWN relating to the Victorian Colonnade.  I was always told this was built in the 1930s as unemployment relief.

It was used for sexual relief in the 1980's.  $smack$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Cambrian on September 07, 2013, 08:35:03 AM
Thanks Hugo.  I suppose folk fairly new to the area can be excused but it's surprising this sort of howler makes its way into print!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: hollins on September 07, 2013, 09:15:21 AM
The BBC have the story of the "Victorian" colonnade on their website too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-23972740 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-23972740)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Tosh on September 07, 2013, 10:48:22 AM
They might mean VICTORIANA, that is to say something that is in in the Victorian style.
My friend has a Victoriana conservatory in white UPVC, so no-one could really imagine that it was made in Victorian times.
After all there are Regency and Edwardian designs aren't there?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 07, 2013, 10:55:35 AM
We live in an Elizabethan bungalow!  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Tosh on September 07, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
Does she mind?

I used to live in a Georgian house, 1951 Georgian that is.  ZXZ
What's it going to be called if Charles goes on the throne as himself, Charlian?????
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on September 07, 2013, 04:54:38 PM
I would say the Colonnade has strong Art Deco overtones, rather than Victorian.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Cambrian on September 07, 2013, 06:54:27 PM
I agree Dave.  The columns seem to have their origins in a classical style. 
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on September 08, 2013, 08:01:41 AM
I just hope they repair all the crumbling parts before somebody gets killed by falling masonry.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Blongb on September 09, 2013, 07:53:00 PM
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Does she mind?

I used to live in a Georgian house, 1951 Georgian that is.  ZXZ
What's it going to be called if Charles goes on the throne as himself, Charlian?????

Not Charlian Tosh as Big Ears will be changing his name to George (George VII) when / If he ascends to the Throne. So the house will still be Georgian but of the late period of course.
Remember you heard it here first.   $walesflag$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on January 22, 2015, 08:57:44 AM
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I suspect what will happen in the end is that TrinityMirror (or whoever owns it by then) will decide to pull the plug once it becomes economically unviable (for them). At that point, somebody local could step in, buy it, and return it to its roots by making the suggested changes. 

In 2009, the NWWN sold 15,124 copies (decline of 8.3% on previous year)
In 2010, the NWWN sold 14,127 copies, (decline of 5.3% on previous year)

I did a blog post on the NWWN a few years ago, still remains true!
http://llandudnoandcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-wales-weekly-news.html (http://llandudnoandcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-wales-weekly-news.html)

$walesflag$
Just to update the circulation figures, in 2012-13, the NWWN sold an average of 10,576 copies per week*, another dramatic fall on the figures mentioned above.

It's very worrying, the NWWN is an integral part of the local community, but it cannot begin to reverse the decline in circulation unless drastic action is taken. Taking the price over £1 was a potentially fatal mistake.  &shake&

It's time to amalgamate the three editions into one bigger paper, reduce the price to 50p and launch the ipad/digital version of the paper. I subscribe to the Daily Post digital edition and would do the same for a NWWN version.

* - http://www.abc.org.uk/Products-Services/Product-Page/?tid=11172 (http://www.abc.org.uk/Products-Services/Product-Page/?tid=11172)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: wrex on January 22, 2015, 05:20:05 PM
Sad thing is,nobody has said if there was any news init today,so i suspect there ain;t.Now this is a new year and it  ,s the same old issues but why do we hear nothing about them in the LOCAL newspaper,Pier pavillion,lets have an update or at least go digging,what about WHY has;nt the Tudno Castle begun,surely one or two of us are interested,what about asking about the xmas lights,the empty shops,our famous BEACH is this not worth a follow up,how about the vanishing cycle path,omg there is plenty that might interest if they bothered to look into it or are they simply running it down and out of circulation,like another story Broadway you don;t appreciate it until its gone.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on September 19, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
Some things are almost too sad for words...

Daily Post today:

The body of an 85-year-old woman lay undiscovered in her flat for three months - along with her pet dog.  Olwen Parry was found dead in the kitchen of her flat in Llandudno in March with the body of her beloved pet dog next to her.

The dedicated diarist had made her last entry in early January, an inquest heard. Nicola Jones, deputy coroner for North Wales, said: "The landlord said the dog had dragged his bed close to her.

"He was lying next to her and then the dog died as well."

Full story here:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/body-llandudno-pensioner-discovered-after-10082856 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/body-llandudno-pensioner-discovered-after-10082856)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on September 20, 2015, 08:04:58 AM
Full details of the boat fire at Deganwy last night:


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/deganwy-marina-yacht-fire-rescue-10092095 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/deganwy-marina-yacht-fire-rescue-10092095)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on September 20, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
THe Surfing championship brought in a lot of interest, it seems:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/family-kids-news/surf-snowdonia-red-bull-unleashed-10090472 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/family-kids-news/surf-snowdonia-red-bull-unleashed-10090472)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on September 20, 2015, 08:09:22 AM
Rather surprised to learn that you have a 3 in 1000000 chance of being killed by your toast:


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhyl-woman-killed-piece-toast-10089347 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhyl-woman-killed-piece-toast-10089347)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 20, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
Yesterday's Daily Post on page 13 included a report about a well-known local criminal who has committed hundreds of crimes and was sent to prison yet again.

The report included a very large colour photograph of the criminal.

Turning over the page onto page 14, there was a report of a 56 year old female called Marilyn who  has been missing for the past two months.

This report did not include a photograph.

.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Hugo on September 20, 2015, 02:06:07 PM
Thanks for posting those news items Ian, one that really disturbed me was the young family walking on Crib Y Ddysgyl and the 7 year old boy fell 100 foot.
Thank goodness he survived that fall as many don't, but it's no place to take young children and especially if you are unprepared for the mountains



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/all-about/Llanberis%20Mountain%20Rescue%20Team (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/all-about/Llanberis%20Mountain%20Rescue%20Team)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2015, 09:47:22 AM
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it's no place to take young children and especially if you are unprepared for the mountains
Very wise advice, when will people learn?  &shake&
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on September 21, 2015, 11:02:07 AM
I doubt they ever will. Most seen to regard the Mountains as big hills, and if there's a track of any sort assume it must be safe. Not sure what the answer is, unless it's to insist on compulsory insurance. But how you'd police that I don't know.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: hollins on March 05, 2016, 06:53:26 AM
Let me be the first to congratulate one of our members Thomas Davidson who was chosen as Young Journalist of the Year at the Wales Media Awards last night.
Well done Tom!
I never looked at the Daily Post before he came along but his enthusiasm for his subject makes interesting reading,
I only wish you were still reporting on our area instead of Anglesey though but your Twitter links are the first thing I go to if I want to know what horrors await on the A55!
Title: Daily post and n.w.weekly news
Post by: ormegolf on March 26, 2016, 04:10:30 PM
  A word of advice to any regular readers of the daily post. If it's local news you are after, don't waste your cash on the n w weekly news. Because you will have already read it.
  I am a regular post reader. And I read it fairly fully. So you can imagine my annoyance after buying a copy of the weekly news. To find I had already read all the news items right up to page 32 of the weekly news. O.k. So maybe some very small news items might have been there. I didn't waste my time checking. But every large scale report had already been printed word for word in one of the previous six issues if the post.
  I guess they must be missing Judith Phillips who they persuaded to take an early retirement from full time reporting.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: hollins on September 08, 2016, 09:53:31 AM
Has our forum member Tom had a promotion?
I see on his Twitter page,
Breaking News Editor!
Well done Tom if that is the case.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: cygnusx-1 on November 01, 2016, 05:50:44 PM
Should have demotion on this spelling at a guess!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bosun on November 01, 2016, 06:19:57 PM
 
Daily Post strikes again!

_))* _))* _))* _))*   

....actually, it's a thought.....
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2016, 08:52:18 AM
Whilst looking for new online about the Pier Pavilion, I was surprised to find this April 2016 article from Wales Online (part of Trinity Mirror, owners of the Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News) containing a photo I had taken of the derelict pavilion site back in 2010.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudnos-pier-pavilion-cost-15m-11222354 (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudnos-pier-pavilion-cost-15m-11222354)

As you can see, not only have they used my photo without permission, they have cropped it to remove my identifying watermark! Unbelievable behaviour for a large company..  &shake&
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DVT on November 02, 2016, 09:10:29 AM
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Should have demotion on this spelling at a guess!

Did you go along and beef about it ???  ;D
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on November 02, 2016, 11:38:13 AM
Dave, I would immediately get your people to speak to their people.

Summon your agent without delay!
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Dave on November 02, 2016, 12:53:02 PM
That really is disgraceful behaviour by a supposedly reputable company. Removing the watermark makes it worse as they knowingly stole the shot and also admits they knew whose work it was.
They owe you, they know that, and you should demand payment or legal action will follow.
It's the principal that counts as much as anything. To be honest, if you post anything on line you have too be prepared to have it copied by someone.
The best ways to prevent it are not to post anything or stick your watermark across the middle of the shot....  but of course you already know that. Just shouldn't be necessary to do either.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bosun on November 02, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Not only have they engaged in disgraceful behaviour with photographs, their journalistic prose has plummeted to new depths with the description of Police officers being 'gobsmacked' on seeing a youth run from a crashed car.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/teen-led-police-terrifying-a55-12117752 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/teen-led-police-terrifying-a55-12117752)



Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: SteveH on February 24, 2017, 10:59:01 AM
This might explain why so many adverts on thier web site.

The Daily Post is now Wales' best-selling regional newspaper, although the print sector remains in long-term decline.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-39065024 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-39065024)
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on October 13, 2017, 08:30:51 AM
A DP reporter - Elwyn Roberts - doesn't seem to know his verbs terribly well.  He's used 'span' as the past tense of 'spin' on a few occasions, now. The most recent was in a report on a Rhyl Night club owner, when it was reported "Prosecuting barrister Owen Edwards said the victim span the defendant around so that they were face to face and punched him several times, causing him to drop the axe."  If that was a direct quote, then the error is the barrister's but Spin is an irregular verb, anyway, so it should have been caught prior to being published.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on October 13, 2017, 03:27:56 PM
Correct Ian, everyone knows it should have read 'spinned'  :laugh:
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on October 13, 2017, 03:48:12 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

"Dive" is another one. Although the US do have 'Dove' as a past tense. English is full of exceptions to the rules. Comes from being invaded all the time.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 05, 2017, 04:03:52 AM
Fully paid-up subscribers to the Daily Post have been unable to download their daily digital edition since Friday.

All attempts to contact the Daily Post via email, Twitter and Facebook have all proven fruitless.

It seems they are only available 9-5, Monday-Friday.

Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 06, 2017, 05:04:44 PM
No apology or explanation all day for me andl the other complainants.

Pretty poor show from the Daily Post.


Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 07, 2017, 06:29:45 PM
Still no reply from the digital Daily Post despite a reminder.

As I have an iPad, I informed Apple Customer Services and they have cancelled my subscription and a full refund has already been received.

So after a lifetime of reading the Daily Post and the North Wales Weekly News, I now only read the more reliable Pioneer, which is free and still amazingly gets delivered free every Wednesday here in CyD.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 17, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
After feeding back their poor service to the Digital Daily Post, I am pleased to report I have received an apology from the Regional Managing Editor, Chris Walker, together with 2 x £10 vouchers as a gesture of goodwill.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on November 17, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
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After feeding back their poor service to the Digital Daily Post, I am pleased to report I have received an apology from the Regional Managing Editor, Chris Walker, together with 2 x £10 vouchers as a gesture of goodwill.
Vouchers for what Bri?
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 17, 2017, 08:14:12 PM
Argos, Halfords or Debenhams, Fester.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Fester on November 17, 2017, 08:42:20 PM
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Argos, Halfords or Debenhams, Fester.

I obviously need to complain more!  $good$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 17, 2017, 09:02:17 PM
I would have been content with a complimentary extension to my subscription but they obviously valued my constructive feedback.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2017, 09:20:57 AM
Every time I look at the Daily Post website, I despair a little more....

There just seems to be more and more sensationalist nonsense on there (often with no connection to North Wales at all), together with increasing numbers of adverts popping up in all directions.

"Rhyl man bit into a burger and you'll be AMAZED at what he found inside!"
"Watch Welsh artist paint Jesus using a Greggs sausage roll"
"Llandudno cat is running for US President and we have an EXCLUSIVE interview!"
"If you're flying economy soon, DON'T watch this Airbus video"
"Top 10 List of POINTLESS THINGS to pad out the newspaper today!"

Added to this utter banality are the pointless videos that now accompany each article - most of which are unbelievably tenuous in their connection to the original article.

"WHAT HAPPENS DURING A LEGAL TRIAL?"
"WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GO TO THE TOILET?"
"WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MORONS ARE ALLOWED TO RUN A NEWSPAPER?"

Please note...I'm not blaming the journalists who I know do their best, but the management - they are obviously morons.  $angry$
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: nwpo on November 20, 2017, 04:13:50 PM
DaveR, I agree and thought it was only me. The videos are sometimes not even relevant to the article and I've not found a way yet of turning the things off. However, unlike Newsquest who fill half the page if you use an adblocker at least Mirror Group don't do that yet.

The newspaper industry is in a race to the bottom now with those type of "Buzzfeed" headlines the order of the day and articles that tell me what side the football (or other television event) is on. It's time for the newspapers to go back to the old days of less but more relevant content rather than the current attempts at churnalism.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: Ian on December 02, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
The DP website continues to use one really annoying technique to raise revenue, and that's the autoplay video. However, in Firefox you can disable this.

Type about:config in the address bar of FF, accept the dire warnings (or warnings of dire consequences) and go in, then scroll down the list until you reach media.autoplay.  Move across to the word 'true' and right click to toggle it to 'false'.  From then onwards the videos on the DP site and other sites that are increasingly using that tactic won't play until you choose to play them.
Title: Re: Daily Post and North Wales Weekly News
Post by: DaveR on December 06, 2017, 12:38:08 PM
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The DP website continues to use one really annoying technique to raise revenue, and that's the autoplay video. However, in Firefox you can disable this.

Type about:config in the address bar of FF, accept the dire warnings (or warnings of dire consequences) and go in, then scroll down the list until you reach media.autoplay.  Move across to the word 'true' and right click to toggle it to 'false'.  From then onwards the videos on the DP site and other sites that are increasingly using that tactic won't play until you choose to play them.
Excellent!