Lloyd Street, Llandudno

[Hugo]

As I don't subscribe to any of the sites I couldn't get full access to the 1921 Census.    The information I did get was as follows

Clara Parry b 1882  Denbighshire
Griffith D  Parry  b1881   Caernarfonshire
Trefor C Parry     b1815    Washington USA
In addition there were two other people living there at the time of the Census.    I wonder who those two people were?

[Cambrian]

Hugo - one would probably have been Richard Tudor Parry as he was born 1st November 1920 - see my post above for his story.

[Hugo]

Cambrian, thanks for pointing that out and I  should have picked that up with Meleri mentioning that he was 13 in 1933,    I wonder who the fifth one was?

[Cambrian]

In the 1922 and 1925 Directories, 55 Lloyd Street is named as The Rowans and occupied by Mrs R W Jones as apartments.

Around 1926, a Mr R W Jones appears at The Rowans in St Andrew's Place. This begs the question as to whether the Jones family moved virtually across the road and took the house name with them.  Presumably the Parry family at some point before 1933 take over 55 and re-name it as Almira. A puzzle is that the 1929 Directory shows a W Neal at 55 The Rowans as apartments!

Trevor C. Parry was the eldest son of Griffith and Clara Parry, Almira, who died in 1946.  He served in the RAF in WW2.

As an aside, Mr R W Jones (1887-1983) was clerk at Chamberlain, Johnson & Parke in Trinity Square (1900 - 1979.  He was still working into his 90s and the last Llandudno man to wear a wing collar, which he did each day on his walk to work.  Conwy Archives have a photo of him complete with wing collar - just put "The Rowans" in their search box.

[Hugo]

Cambrian, if you have access to the 1922 and 1925 Street Index do you know if Clara or Griffith D Parry are shown as living in Lloyd street in either of those two years?
It is possible that the street may have been renumbered at some time
Richard Tudor Parry is shown in the 1921 Census but strangely as Richard J Parry but that must be a mistake in copying from the original Census.   In those days the capital letters J and T looked similar

[Cambrian]

Bit of a mystery one, Hugo.  They are not in Lloyd Street in the 22 or 25 Directories.  What I can say is they spent some years in the USA as Griffith, Clara, Trevor and daughter Mair arrived in Liverpool from Philadelphia on 6/6/1919.  The address given for them is Glanavon, Llanbedr.

I wonder if Griffith and Clara married over there and she may have been a US or Canadian citizen.  He was a joiner/carpenter by trade and spent around 14 years in the US and Canada. He died in 1946 aged 64 and worked in his father's building firm - though I have not been able to trace this.

[Hugo]

The Parry family are living in Llandudno in 1921 according to the 1921 Census and Mair M Parry was born in Pittsburgh USA in 1918.   I'll see if I can find out where tomorrow

[Meleri]

The Parry Family are living at 2 Curzon Road, Llandudno on the 1921 Census. The son Trevor was born Almira, Washington, USA so that's were they must have got the name from when they moved to Lloyd Street. Griffith D Parry was born Llanbedr, Caernarfonshire & Clara was born Llanelian, Denbighshire. Mair M Parry was born Pittsburg Pennsylvania 1918, they must have come back just after as Richard was born 1920 Caernarvonshire.
I don't think the Parry family have anything to do with the person we are looking for, other than to have given her a home while she had her baby boy, but it has been really good that we have all worked together to try & solve the puzzle 

[Hugo]

Yes, I have just received my Father?s birth certificate which sparked off my research as Almira came up as his place of birth.  I have had my DNA results back.

The birth certificate may or may not show the name of the mother and father but  that would help with our search.   The only female living at Almira that we know about is Mair M Parry, but she would only have been 12 or 13 when Mrs S's father was born.  Without the birth mother's name it's a guessing game and that is where DNA helps.

[Mrs Suckersby]

I have discovered a Richard W Jones living at The Rowans, Solicitor?s Probate Clerk in 1939.
Meleri has the Mothers name.Thank you for all this information and your research, it has been very helpful.  I am carrying on researching as it is addictive.

[Helig]

I have just seen this having been laid up with an evil lurgy for about 10 days. There is an entry for an obituary on Ancestry for Richard Tudor Parry born c1921 who died age 58 in 1979. It states his death place to be Llandudno and residence place to be Almira, Lloyd St. The obituary date is 11/10/1979 which was in the North Wales Weekly News. His spouse is shown as Brenda.

[Mrs Suckersby]

I have now found my Father?s birth mother, Annie from Llanrhyddlad.  I just want to say thank you for your help and support, Meleri, Hugo, Helig and Cambrian.